Start the Week Open Thread 11 February 2019

As we count down the days until UK leave the EU we now have another countdown – that of the showing of Tommy Robinsons’ Film about the BBC . How will the BBC prepare for it? How damaging will it be to them ? Will it have long term consequences ? Can but hope …

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415 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 11 February 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    Comments are open.

    So far… could be going better…

       26 likes

    • Demon says:

      There are many businesses going out of business at the moment. There always is. But, if we do finally get Brexit, they will blame it for what goes on all the time.

         20 likes

    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      I’m still offended by the terrorist flag R4 has on it’s twitter header.

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  2. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Meanwhile at the Guardian the NoBrainers are still blaming the NHS Bus.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/12/un-big-mess-how-rest-of-europe-views-brexit
    THE most biased report I have ever seen. Form your own opinion.

    Dear Guardian lover.
    Nobody at Biased BBC is in the least surprised by the “People’s vote”.
    Some of us were surprised that the latest version of EU cheating took so long.
    Or perhaps I should have said EEC cheating because that is what the UK joined.

    We were not looking in the other direction when the EU imported tens of millions of our most implacable enemies to vote for more EU.

    We were not looking in the other direction when the EU had repeat referenda every time there was an inconvient vote.

    Many of us made the decision to leave, years, or even decades, ago.
    We grabbed the opportunity when offered.
    We are leaving.
    If a few hundred treasonous MPs and several million traitors at large are collateral damage in the leaving process that will be just fine by me.

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    Ah well – another day – another time zone .

    Apparently TR is to begin showing extracts from his documentary on the Far Left Biased BBC every 72 hours from Tuesday night .

    The extract of him confronting a Panorama Producer and the chief reported “John Sweeney” ends with stunned silence from the two of them . I think the silence speaks for itself as it were .

    I’m surprised the BBC hasn’t put together some pre emotive hatchet job using people TR has had disagreements in the past .

    They’ll pay handsomely to bribe for lies at the moment if they have gone over what they have said during the planning of their work against TR

    International coverage of this is needed to protect him from sudden ‘illnesses’ ‘prosecutions ‘ of ‘car accidents ‘.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Jezza is on it.

      Wait for Simpo’s next broadside.

      Talk about the blind leading the blind.

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      • Kaiser says:

        lies have consequences , the media could do well to remember that.

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      • Guest Who says:

        “So children, the word of today is ‘Attaaaaaaaack!!!!’”
        ***
        BBC News

        Donald Trump saw the attack and confirmed the cameraman wasn’t seriously hurt with a thumbs up.
        ***

        Make that… ‘at all’.

        Bbc again going full flounce, and copping deserved mockery. Never go full flounce, bbc.

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      • lojolondon says:

        Note how – as a result of the cameraman being bumped, we actually get to see the size and scale of the crowd – which the FakeNews including BBC and CNN always refuse to show, as Trump taunts them with his massive rally, filling football stadiums, compared to Billary’s events that never had more than a couple of hundred people jammed into a small room….

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  4. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Does anyone hear actually expect them to stop all their antics once we leave?

    The media/Labour/SNP/etc will continue to work to undermine the country just to prove their point.

    It’s like being on an an aeroplane and hoping it crashes.

       36 likes

  5. Tabs says:

    Gordon Banks: World Cup winning goalkeeper dies aged 81
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47196017

    I’m surprised the BBC included a colour photo of the England ’66 world cup team in this article. Hideously white the whole lot of ’em!

    Give it another year of 2 then the liberals will be demanding how we shouldn’t ever mention England winning in ’66 due to the lack of diversity in the team.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Wont be long before the terms ‘cricketing/tennis whites’ and working at the ‘coal face’ will be outlawed. Speaking of coal face, interestingly, I wonder how many people of colour actually worked down a coal mine in this country. My dad worked night shifts for over a decade, and never once mentioned working with anyone other than white.

      Honestly ? as an aside, if that form of employment were available today, I cant see any of our man-boys queuing up to do it. The ‘toughness’ of the male species has been knocked out of them over the past few decades, and replaced by what I call Papoose man !

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      • Cassandra says:

        Looking at BBC News channel. Theresa the Appeaser is speaking with forked tongue as usual and right at the bottom of the screen the Breaking News ‘ticker tape’ keeps repeating a quote from Raheem Stirling saying Gordan Banks’ legacy will live on. Am I being cynical or is the BBC spinning the multi culti angle?

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Am I being even more cynical in saying that Raheem Stirling may not have heard of Gordon Banks until now, – and ask him to name the rest of the World Cup Squad of ’66.

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      And- didn’t he stop a black player from scoring with a great save?
      How racist was that then?

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  6. Doobster78 says:

    Professionally offended strike again …. will it ever end ?

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  7. G.W.F. says:

    Supporters of the BBC, who presumably see the working class as cannibals, are organizing their protest against TR’s video in Manchester. Support for the BBC is coming from the TUC and Unions, the multiculty people of al Burnham’s Manchester, Stand up to Racism, not forgetting the UAF, whose founder member is David Yaxley Cameron former Tory Prime Minister. Just remember links with these Trot thugs and a former leader of the Tory Party.

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  8. G.W.F. says:

    Remember Tory leaders and the BBC support this lot.

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    • Nibor says:

      I wonder which side Donald Tusk – former football hooligan – will be on .
      Sorry , I wonder which side Donald Tusk – EU president – will be on .

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      • StewGreen says:

        One could do the same poster replacing the name TR with Brendan Cox and the accusations against him.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I’d be astonished if TR has not foreseen exactly that reaction. His plans probably count on it.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Roland Deschain

        He has. From his FB site

        These far left globalists are obsessed with me. Look at these posters plastered all around Manchester with some kind of pathetic meeting to ‘know your enemy’ at https://www.meetinghousemanchester.co.uk on the 13th Feb.
        They could have just invited me to their little far-left fascist gathering and we could have had a little chat. Instead, all of the little wet wipes will turn up with their faces covered all dressed in black thinking they have superpowers. They will sit in the meeting house shouting NAZI for two hours, go home and tweet Nazi for two more hours, then go to bed and have wet dreams.

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    • StewGreen says:

      #1 Someone organises a protest
      #2 Some other group make a big plan to overwhelm the first protest and stop it.
      .. To this aim they “bear false witness” against the first guy, misusing extremely emotive language “Fascist” “Nazi”which should be kept for its true purpose so not to devalue it
      Also they make a number of false claims, eg he is not saying that journalists shouldn’t criticise him.

      It should be obvious that the second group are the ones likely to cause a breach of the peace.
      They could just let the first protest take place and there would be no breach of the peace. If mayor Andy Burnham facilitates them, then he is implicit.

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      • Terminal Moraine says:

        ‘Sow division’ or report accurately?

        Big problems for the BBC when one entails the other.

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      • Banania says:

        I gathered from the TR documentary that the police are well aware that the “anti” “fascists” with their faces covered and carrying offensive weapons are the troublemakers, and not TR’s supporters.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Those dimwits sure are frightened on the truth of Blighty being destroyed by an enemy within arnt they ?

      I wonder if TR will launch it on multiple locations ..

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    • lojolondon says:

      If there is any “National socialist” organisation, it would be UNITE, not Tommy Robinson!!

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  9. NISA says:

    Tonight on BBC1 – “Stacey Dooley travels to California to meet Survivors, one of America’s most extreme anti-abortion groups…. can they persuade Stacey to join their controversial campaign?
    Does the BBC consider the post birth abortion currently indicated by legislation (proposed/passed?) in Virginia & New York states as “controversial”?
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/30/ralph-northam-virginia-governor-defends-bill-allow/

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Not ever having been affected by abortion, I didn’t really have an opinion on it, however, hearing that Democrat describe that after the child being ‘born’ and ‘made comfortable’ the mother and health officials could make a live or die decision???????
      Unbelievable.
      But like most things, if the lefties are mad for it, it’s bad.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Vine “yeh electro-sensitivity is definitely a thing, some people need to be away from phone masts for their health”
    … Don’t think so.. if you could demonstrate that to be true, you’d win the James Randi $million prize
    . Normal.radio waves at a distance can’t harm your health
    .. Engineers working right up a high power mast can be affected by waves , but at any distance the inverse square law means the energy is practically zero.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Stew the inverse square law applies but there are studies of the effects of base towers radiation showing harmful effects going back even to 1G. Cumulative effects are still not acknowledged by the industry.

      Also if they start bringing in 5G, this requires far more of the new masts which will be much closer to homes

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      • StewGreen says:

        TM in science you need to have two things
        – A measured effect
        – A physical mechanism for the cause
        In the real world for EMF there seem to be neither
        There is no large scale measured effect on people who live near towers
        An old time physist once explained there is no physical mechanism for EMF damage.
        So when someone says “I got cancer and I lived near a phone tower,” then that means sure you got cancer, but it’s almost certain to other factors and that you would have still got it even if the tower had never been switched on.

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        • Terminal Moraine says:

          Measured effect: well there is a lot of evidence of non-thermal effects of EMFs now. Of course for an old time physicist the mechanism may not be fully understood but in evidence based medicine (EBM) the effect against various outcomes is the critical matter. E.g. drugs get approved without understanding the pharmacological pathways and also acupuncture which shows some favourable results in clinical trials even though the ‘physical mechanism’ is very much in dispute.

          We might have to agree to disagree on this one!

          https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15368378.2017.1350584
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8985435

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  11. StewGreen says:

    Leftwing think tank IPPR has done #ProjectClimateFear report
    floods/droughts
    .. The Global Warming industry PR man Roger Harra has cutNpasted it into a BBC page to raise the alarm
    it has open comments
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47203344

       15 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      One commenter chose the pen-name “Old McDonnell Taxed My Farm”
      ..a reference to Labour’s chancellor

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  12. Rich says:

    bBBC News.

    “Two Bonsai enthusiasts have launched an emotional plea to thieves who stole seven trees from them, offering care instructions for their ‘children’.”

    Aggravated burglary in Taunton? Business targeted in Tayside?

    No. Pinched from a garden in Tokyo. Main news page on the webshite, one of the Asian headlines.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47207417

    Not news and of no real interest or relevance to anyone outside the family affected. Pages to fill and fluff to fill it as real stories and issues that should be being reported are wilfully and routinely ignored because they don’t suit the narrative.

       31 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      BBC reporter bubbleworld

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      • JamesArthur says:

        TWATO
        had Ruby Wax and some others on to discuss how much they watch BBC – hilarious it didn’t go to plan..Wax and other don’t watch BBC prefer Netflix and Prime…so switch conversation to Radio.That didnt go too well either…so BBC says well should we stop free licence for over 75s or cut other programmes…no other way of making savings then? It really didn’t go their way…just reinforced that fewer people are watching BBC ….but they never ask themselves why.

        Next on R4.. their series Fatwa…..FFS…not any real criticism of giving a death sentence because somebody writes something they don’t like…this is why people are switching off

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Meanwhile in Paris……………https://www.facebook.com/khazbi/videos/2211980768862963/

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  13. Zelazek says:

    There was an item on the Today programme this morning about private schools. This is not a subject I know a lot about or am terribly interested in but one thing puzzles me. The shared assumption between interviewer and guests was that old Etonian politicians like Boris Johnson can never empathise with or understand the concerns of ordinary people because they didn’t go to school with them. So we should get rid of private schools or at least open them up to bright poor kids so that our future leaders can meet and get under the skin of human beings who don’t have a farmhouse in Tuscany to repair to during the vacations. This will be beneficial for our politics, they seem to be saying.
    I am sceptical. First, it assumes that human beings have no imaginative sympathy or curiosity and are limited by personal experience. False. Most people, and especially those with a good education, have learned to put themselves in the shoes of other, often quite alien, people. The study of literature, I always think, is quite good at imbuing us with this skill. Second, it assumes that an acquaintance with poor people during childhood would result in the mature politician abandoning conservative principles and adopting socialist policies of higher taxes and an expanding welfare system. Why would it? Conservatives, whether they’ve met the poor or not, believe self-reliance is better for everyone than welfare dependency. Third, almost all of these politicians and BBC lefties who bleat on about inequality and the unfairness of the private education system seem to send their own children to private schools for some reason.

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  14. Kaiser says:

    FGM to hard to prosecute

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-47198786

    some other things not so much

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  15. Fedup2 says:

    So The BBCs printed arm The Guardian – cries out about the reception a couple of beeboids got at a President Trump rally . They seem surprised that people didn’t do the expected bowing and scraping which is expected when people working for the BBC.
    If they looked in the mirror and saw what they are doing promoting solidly anti President Trump bias they might realise the reception they are getting . There must be a price to be paid for lieing .

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  16. NISA says:

    BBC World Service report on the incentives being offered to Hungarians to have several children, as a way of reducing population decline rather than taking down the fences. It was of course a “bad thing”. The BBC reporter was casting round for reasons why it was wrong, apparently the wrong mothers (middle class?) would choose to breed. But the beeboid’s best shot was that the initiative would fail because the maternity services in Hungarian hospitals are less than ideal & women would not want the experience more than once.
    Really? A decision on having a family will be determined by wanting to avoid 3 hours hard labour?

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  17. StewGreen says:

    BBC news at 10, is to be cut so the whole lot finishes at 10:35 not 10:45

    For kids Crackerjack is booked to have 10 new episodes

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Arts Council is set to enforce bodies to meet diversity targets or no funding.
    Apparently it’s cos staff refuse to fill in the forms

    …. hmm bet it doesn’t work the other way
    ie orgs will be allowed to be 100% gay etc.
    https://www.echo-news.co.uk/leisure/showbiz/17425190.arts-council-england-will-pressure-groups-to-provide-data-on-staff-sexuality

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    • les whittaker says:

      “Apparently it’s cos staff refuse to fill in the forms”

      The solution is simple – just tell the staff to put in any old rubbish – 50% male/25% female/25% Gnu or whatever.

      Data protection? Who can argue?

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Bute child sex abuse travel
    – teenager accused has said that “it was that woman that raped and murdered the child, not me”

    \\ been hearing evidence from crime-scene officers.
    One confirmed a knife found on a beach was similar to a set photographed in the kitchen of the house where the accused //

    BBC have a page
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-47211732

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  20. Alicia Sinclair says:

    Noted Martha Kearney couldn’t shut up and listen to Boris Johnson, as he tried to answer some Brexit comments of hers.
    She seemed to have no questions, only objections.
    But the bit that annoyed me was her quoting of Donald Tusks abuse re ” hell”.
    Then asking him if he was ” feeling the heat” yet?
    Outrageous to pin some EU numpty and his nasty comment , to Boris and her oh so clever link to ” heat”.
    How do Today’s ranters get away with this. None of them believe in God, the Muslims would shut her Yap if she ever dared to rope in Islamic terms in this way.
    Cultural appropriation, not that Frank Welby would know what he’ll was.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Yorkshire Post has a whole page over to Jo Cox’s sister and promotion of their June 22, Great Together street party day.

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  22. pugnazious says:

    A man pushes journalists at a Trump rally and the BBC tells us it was a targeted attack on ‘the BBC’ caued by Trump’s ‘enemy of the people’ rhetoric against the media…the same media that encourages people to assassinate Trump and does its best to undermine US democracy and a sitting President…doing Russia’s work ironically as they complain about Russian interference, lol….

    Trump supporter attacks BBC cameraman at El Paso rally

    ‘A supporter of US President Donald Trump has attacked a BBC cameraman at a campaign rally in El Paso, Texas.

    Sporting a Make America Great Again cap, the man shoved and swore at the BBC’s Ron Skeans and other news crews before being pulled away.

    Mr Trump saw the attack and confirmed Mr Skeans was well with a thumbs up after it happened.’

    We’re alos told by another BBC journo….

    ‘”This is a constant feature of these rallies – a goading of the crowds against the media,” Mr O’Donoghue said, who added that he had been “spat at before”.’

    Seems the Media must be above criticism however much they distort the news, lie and shape that news to send a particular message.

    Naturally it was not an attack on the BBC but on the pack of journalists at the rally…and Trump was not giving the BBC’s Mr Skeans the thumbs up but all of the journalists there.

    The BBC is now claiming that Trump ‘whipped up’ the crowd into a frenzy against the media….er no…all Trump said about the media in the speech was this ….and the crowd reaction was more in the nature of an audience booing the pantomime villains…it was good natured…no frenzied mob baying for blood….

    ‘Wow, look at all the press that you believe that this is like the Academy Awards used to be used in they’ve gone down a long way since they started hitting us and that have been right. They’ve gone down, that was a long that was a long fall, but there they are.

    ‘First, our agenda is not a partisan agenda, although some people say it is every once in a while. It does become that way. Right. It’s a mainstream commonsense agenda of the American people. It’s where we want to be and where we want to go and despite the fact that the media refuses to acknowledge what we’ve done and how well we’re doing a new poll just came out as I was coming on, and it shows I don’t know how you Can do this, I don’t think I’ve had a good story in years.
    I don’t get a good [press]. I used to get great press until I decided to run for office and we have done together an incredible job at a new poll which just came out today. Rasmussen is one of the most respected polls, one of the polls that got the election right. So I have to remember that, you know what the number is: 52 percent with no good news. Explain that how do you get that when you don’t get good press, I guess ninety three percent of the stories are negative, no matter what we do, they figure out a way to make it [bad]. I’ll give you a quick example: when I came in North Korea was, it was looking like it was going to war.
    You know that was going to happen, bad things. Now you have no missile launches. You have no rocket testing. You have no nuclear testing. I have a good relationship, maybe even a great relationship. We have tremendous sanctions on North Korea, but we have our hostages back, we have remains, they are coming back and our presidents have been dealing with north Korea for many, many decades, many, many decades, and on a nuclear way over the last 20 ,30 years, and all I Hear is can’t you move faster.’

    Hardly ‘whipping up’ anyone into a frenzy merely pointing out a fact…and it’s true tht 90% of the media are against Trump and report negatively on him regardless…our very own finest the prime example…ironically as shown by this BBC journalist’s tweet lying about what happened….

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    • Guest Who says:

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      • StewGreen says:

        #Irony
        The first amendment is the right to free expression
        yet ” journalists are very concerned at the erosion of our First Amendment …want .. T-Shirt BANNED”
        … so they in fact are the ones interfering with first amendment rights

        …. #Projection is a libmob characteristic

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Pug The bolshy man was not white, does the BBC mention that ?

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  23. StewGreen says:

    YP letters
    \\ Free TV licences for over 75s was a gimmick by Gordon Brown
    … He wanted to be in with the pensioners
    ..but instead of increasing pensions he came up with free TV licences.
    ..same for free bus passes//

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  24. pugnazious says:

    Interesting tweets that BBC journalists allow on their twitter feed whilst blocking those who criticise them…

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    It seems to be OK to portray Trump and anyone who votes for him as a Nazi and racists who should be exterminated but you cannot criticise the media for pushing that narrative which of course is intended to ‘whip up into a frenzy’ anti-Trump protestors and maybe encourage some of the crazies to kill him or some of his supporters. No tears will be shed on the BBC if that happens.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Pug, Eleanor’s Tweet has thousands of replies
      So it would not be reasonable to expect her to have read all of them

      That is why she didn’t block those guys.

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      • pugnazious says:

        They’re right at the top…easy to find and very prominent….and part of the point is that the BBC is just not interested in such attacks on Trump and his supporters…they only have one narrative..and that is everything Trump does is bad and they will lokk the other way when anti-Trump protestors behave far worse and encourage violence.

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        • StewGreen says:

          No, on my screen they are not near the top
          Twitter is selecting them for you but not for me

          Ill try desktop mode.
          Yes bit different that red meme board tweet now appears 9th on the list

          Such meme boards are probably produced by PR operations,
          I never ‘like’ such meme-boards so it is possibly why Twitter doesn’t show me them

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          • pugnazious says:

            Yes, near the top….the maga cap one seems to have been removed…I guess we’re both wrong….she can read them and does manage them to some extent. However she has the reaction she wants…the vast majority of comments support her and are along the lines of ‘Trump is going to get a journalist killed’ so ‘confirming’ the BBC narrative and ‘whipping up’ the anti-Trump messaging.

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    • gaxvil says:

      I just have to keep asking:- Where is the evidence that Trump is a bigot, racist or misogynist ?
      It is, as they say, Trump Derangement Syndrome and that’s it.

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    • gaxvil says:

      The bbc et al should face a Banning Order for ‘Disseminating material counter to the public good and liable to engender civil disorder’.

      Reckon the bbc are confidant that their ‘antifa’ drones, the Police and our Parliament can beat TR ?

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    • JamesArthur says:

      I might be wrong but 1. where is evidence camera man was personally attacked and not just pushed in a mele or pooed his pants and dropped his camera. I await proper footage – 2. I may be wrong but was the chap afro-american? BBC don’t seem to mention that bit especially as Trump and supporters are racists..What a load of British Bull Crap reporting

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  25. StewGreen says:

    now R4 History prog opens with a reference to “foodbanks and austerity”

    … yeh cos 2019 is so much poorer than the past

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  26. gaxvil says:

    Never mind all this stuff. Imagine my horror when I awoke to a R4 Xtra drama in which a bloke was telling someone how he’d defiled a youth, because he just had to, and turned him into a druggy alcoholic wreck.
    Charming waking to that and do they not know or care that children hear radio.

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  27. StewGreen says:

    R4 presenter “the only thing I eat on toast is avocado”
    FFS we don’t sell many avocados around here.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – that must have been a white working class beeboid because a decent member of the beeboids would choose free range organic responsibility sourced fair trade avocados complete with ‘ green’ certification and picture of the farmer and picker …

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  28. john in cheshire says:

    Apologies if so someone has already covered this:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6688053/British-spies-MI6-smuggled-defecting-Iranian-nuclear-scientist-UK-dinghy.html

    Isn’t it interesting that our spies ( therefore with government approval if not government orders) can smuggle an Iranian defector into the UK, ignoring any consequences from a viciously belligerent islamic state but they couldn’t bring in a Christian lady and her family ( in the face of real threats to their lives) in case a few uppity paklanders, who are living here in self constructed ghettos, get upset and do a bit of muslim rioting.

    It’s not just double standards, it’s cynical disregard for people who would live here and cause absolutely no trouble for anyone in our country.

    The MSM failed to champion Asia Bibi’s cause, which is not at all surprising given she’s ‘only’ a Christian, but the craven cowardice of MPs makes me sick.

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  29. Beltane says:

    ‘Carney warns of NoDealBrexit economic shock.’
    Cheers Mark, with your valued and precognitive record that’s all the confirmation we need. No Deal it is then.

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  30. Guest Who says:

    https://www.westmonster.com/appointment-of-top-eu-civil-servant-did-not-follow-eu-law-ombudsman-finds/

    EU rules on employment seem like BBC rules on employment seem like the BBC’s accountability on anything.

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  31. taffman says:

    Al Beeb “Brexit: Theresa May promises meaningful vote after more talks with EU”
    The top HYS has suddenly flipped from the usual Pro Brexit score?
    Have they been ‘massaging’ the figures?

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  32. Roland Deschain says:

    Jon’s righteous indignation is noted.

    Meanwhile, I await details of this attacker whose name appears, as far as I can find out, unbeknownst to anyone yet his affiliation certain.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Isn’t it a shame that Mr Sopel wasn’t there to witness the results of his smug anti President Trump vitriol ?

      I find myself using the word ‘ vitriol’ quite a bit here but with reference to the nasty attitude of all beeboids it seems the most suitable – you can cut and paste that one Max it’s there to amuse you .

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      • gaxvil says:

        Sopel is one of the bbc’s many orifices – not a mouth one though.
        So they’re working so hard to equate MAGA with Nazism but why would a sane person do that?

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    • G says:

      RD,
      Next step a rope and lamppost, hopefully.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Atttack!!!!!!

      Now on every possible BBC channel.

      It is, just, slightly possible such hysterical OTT hyperbole may backfire as much as all other BBC OTT hysterical hyperbole.

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      • Guest Who says:

        They really have lost it.

        An octogenarian member of the public is hauled out of a Labour conference here and it’s just part and parcel of the rough and tumble of politics. A bloke wearing the wrong colour of gilet gets his hand blown off by a BBC favoured President and it is mostly his fault for leaving his fingers out, and both get quietly shelved.

        But a BBC… yes… a BBC drone gets man-handled at a rally they have gone to misreport, and suddenly it’s like all their Kristallnachts have come at once and they gear up for full flounce for the week ahead.

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        • Banania says:

          That’s a lovely last paragraph.

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          • gaxvil says:

            Sopel – It sounds like a report from a six year old school girl, ‘Please Miss, Donny’s fwend pushed me in the playground boo-hoo, boo-hoo.’

            Don’t be surprised if a tearful Sopel turns up at a press conference saying he was raped by Trump (in a MAGA hat, of course).

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        GW
        BBC asks White House for security review after Trump rally attack
        The request to review security came after a BBC cameraman was shoved at an Trump rally in El Paso
        Shoved, aaah, poor dear.

        Save some money BBC, you lie about Trump events all the time.
        Stop attending Trump events, you are not welcome.

        Incidentally, how is the BBC pension scheme doing?
        I read that, due to millions in the UK refusing to pay for your poisonous bias, the BBC pension scheme will collapse in three years.

        I can’t wait for the party to start.

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  33. taffman says:

    “Brexit: No-deal plan for Channel Tunnel operations”
    If the EU mess about with this service they will be the losers.
    Amazing how we managed before the tunnel.

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    • gaxvil says:

      And amazing how we managed being at war with France etc for years and years and years. We somehow managed to get stuff from the four corners.

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        The other week at work a bit of politics came up in the team about Brexit. A young co-worker said he was in favour of get us out, no deal, sod Europe etc. Whether that has blighted his future career I’ll never know. The international company I’m working for is chock full of Europeans and other overseas workers although we only have one ethnic minority on our team.

        Anyway there were murmurings of approval from some, but others seemed too embarrassed to commit because a senior manager happened to be present. Nobody actively spoke up for Remain.

        As I’m only a temp due to finish next month I followed it up with – not only should we Brexit off the cliff and keep our £39 billion quid but I’d also declare war on France and Germany just for a laugh.

        It broke the ice at least!

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  34. JimS says:

    The BBC’s hero, George Soros, is worried that the EU will break up as the plebs don’t have enough pro-EU parties to vote for, (like 40 plus years of Blue Labour, Yellow Labour, Green Labour and Good Old Red Labour!). Amazing what UKIP did without even a single proper MP!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      And the Dutch Belgium Verhofstadt things brexiteers could be guilotined if someone can’t get sun dried tomatoes because of brexit

      Please someone remind him

      1 the guilotine is French
      2 Blighty is a bit tougher that the non country he comes from
      3 George Soros saying that populismcould destroy the EU is a Good Thing – and actually might make for a far healthier Europe – without added third worlders

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      • gaxvil says:

        Too true – all those things we take for positive they believe are negative. Well that’s polarization for you.
        Really, how could anyone object to, MAGA as an aspiration?

        What might their inspirational phrase be ???

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        F
        The EUFilth are coming apart at the seams.
        Just like their beloved Project.
        Exposing how disgusting they, and their beliefs, are.
        The real pity is May is also part of the EUFilth.
        With a real Brexit leader they would have done the decent thing, and killed themselves, by now.

        Die EU, just die, we need a really good laugh.

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  35. G says:

    Could this be a massive boost to our efforts here?

    Any thoughts?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      10 minutes too long . 30 seconds was enough for me and the appearance of this character disqualified any reasoned argument he might have .

      Nice effort though .

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      • G.W.F. says:

        G

        Not a good build up. If I were deciding whether to drive up to Manchester for this event, this would not persuade me.

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        • G says:

          I didn’t realise how anti TR some people here are. The point was, TR asserts he will expose the BBC Panorama as fake. What’s the problem with that. I thought that was the whole meaning of this site?

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  36. The Sage says:

    Only the BBC could describe two fleeing criminals driving down the wrong side of a main road in their desperation to get away as “young newlyweds”:
    Two people killed in a car crash following a police pursuit in London are believed to have been young newlyweds.
    Patrick McDonagh, 19, and his 18-year-old pregnant wife, Shauna, have been named in hundreds of tributes.
    A car veered to the wrong side of the A40 near East Acton at about 21:00 GMT on Sunday before hitting a coach and killing a man and woman inside.
    The car was being followed after reports of an armed burglary in Harrow.
    Any betting that these two are from our much-admired travelling community?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sage
      Yes I thought that one as well . I feel sorry for the fella they drove into . My thoughts are with him . Truly .

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  37. Beltane says:

    Sad news of Gordon Banks and the BBC were quick to pay tribute and show his magic ‘best ever’ save against Pele’s certain goal. Shame, with all that cash and technical resource, they couldn’t do a slo-mo replay to let us see just how brilliant his reaction was.
    ITV managed it though.

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  38. StewGreen says:

    The default position on Climate Alarmist reports
    is that if you sit and wait it will turn out to BS
    https://cliscep.com/2019/02/12/ippr-lies-promoted-by-bbc-and-guardian/

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  39. theisland says:

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    • gaxvil says:

      Yes for sure it’s the, ” You can have this shop soiled one now OR I can try to get one for you but it may take months even if I can get one at all,” ploy.

         11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Typo there Peston
      UK *EU* chief Brexit negotiator Olly Robbins warns MPs the choice is May’s deal or extension”

      … Olly works for EU MetroLiberal establishment interests, not the British voters.

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      • gaxvil says:

        I’m hanging on for,” You can have Brexit but your first born will have to be put to the sword.”

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  40. Guest Who says:

    The bbc.

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  41. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Positive Trump support in Texas yesterday. Not the way BBC portrays things is it? Jon Sopel must loathe the normal people of the USA with an irrational passion.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      He does. Here’s all his tweets today about it. And that doesn’t include retweets on the subject.

      Conversely, here’s what the entire BBC has to say about the EU Ombudsman’s verdict on the appointment of Martin Selmayr: “Selmayr’s appointment did not follow EU law, in letter or spirit, and did not follow the Commission’s own rules”. Or Olly Robbins’s warning to MPs that they either accept May’s deal or extend Article 50.

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  42. Guest Who says:

    Nick chips in. They are still trying to build an unsustainable narrative around this,

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    • RJ says:

      I’m sure it’s a line from Shakespeare’s Henry VI Part 2:

      “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the journalists”.

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    • Beltane says:

      Sad to think that while Sopel has devoted his professional life for the past year and more to fully justifying and earning a smack in the mouth – he then metaphorically dodges to let his cameraman suffer. What a grindingly dreadful little person.

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    • JimS says:

      Mark Steyn in 2017

      Mr Kristof is worried that the President’s contempt for the American media may egg on his supporters:

      I’ve lost reporter and photographer friends in war zones all over the world, and have had other friends kidnapped and tortured. When Trump galvanizes crowds against reporters in the room, I worry that we may lose journalists in the line of duty not only in places like Syria but also right here at home. Trump will get people hurt.

      In fact, it’s Kristof, Gitlin, CNN et al who are getting people hurt, right now – including reporters and photographers. Their willingness to cover for brute thuggery has incentivized antifa, who, entirely reasonably, have concluded they’re free to punch the lights out of any fascist who gets in their way. And, happily, if you’re deluded enough to believe that the principal threat to the United States in the year 2017 is “fascism”, why then everyone and his l’il old spinster auntie looks like a “fascist”. In that video up above, that’s a cameraman getting beaten up by antifa. Here’s a female journalist for The Hill getting punched in the face by an “anti-fascist”. Oh, and here’s a CBS reporter antifa put in the hospital. What’s your problem? In America today, Democrat state senators urge the assassination of the President and pay no price.

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    • lojolondon says:

      Remeber what Sopel calls a violent attack was described on the BBC website as “shoved and sworn “at.

         5 likes

  43. Cassandra says:

    Watching the crime drama Shetland now. Looks like whitey is treating the innocent noble black community in those far off isles (neither did I) very badly. On the bright side, the BBC is continuing to meet it’s ethnic actor quota targets.

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  44. gaxvil says:

    For the Trump opposition it would have to be a,MALICE hat – that’s Make America Like it’s Caracas Evermore.

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  45. pugnazious says:

    F**k it…put it on my expenses!…..add another fiver to the licence fee…that’ll cover it!….lol….

       17 likes

  46. StewGreen says:

    Wake me up when someone posts some proper footage of the Trump rally press zone incident.

       4 likes

  47. Fedup2 says:

    NEW THREAD TIME ….

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