Start the Week Open Thread 11 February 2019

As we count down the days until UK leave the EU we now have another countdown – that of the showing of Tommy Robinsons’ Film about the BBC . How will the BBC prepare for it? How damaging will it be to them ? Will it have long term consequences ? Can but hope …

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415 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 11 February 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    John Sweeney roars hi! Silently.


  2. taffman says:

    “Brexit: ‘Very real’ chance of Irish unity poll if no deal”
    Al Beeb doing its damnedest to stir things up because of Brexit?
    When we come out of the EU you can be sure that the RoE will soon follow .


  3. Kaiser says:

    So listened to more or less

    they had a bit (lot) of a waffle around a third of businesses leaving because of brexit, but couldnt find a way , anyway, to prove it

    so the BBC prove the BBC is fake news well done fellas

    then on to wood burners producing 38% of pollution

    this is quite clever, if you look at a certain type of particle (size), and exclude all the flying particles from abroad (and NATURAL ones), and take the worst case scenario then you could get to 38% though the GUESS could be off by a factor of 10 either way, (but you cant produce 380% of pollution natch) but it might be 3.8% of the man made british element.

    bbc dirty lying cheating bast*rds


    • StewGreen says:

      Nope you have got your thinking upside down
      I already wrote about this on Friday
      MoL now dealing with the claim domestic wood/coal burning generates 38% of PM2.5 micro-particles
      2015 figs modelled figs
      They’re saying yes cos such huge amount of heating fuel is burnt, it is much more than road transport.

      Users burn 40 hours/week winter and 20h/w in Summer
      Sampling evidence shows that including natural or imported (a different metric to the UK manmade sources only)
      … then wood/coal is 10% of PM 2.5
      They argue the modelling assumes older not clean burn stoves are being used
      Seems it is really difficult to get proper figs

      Oh the best expert Tony Froome has died suddenly
      ..darn that leaves the alarmists.


      • StewGreen says:

        Most pollution articles are driven by “PR not news”
        and that PR basically says ‘dieselsRpaedos , so you’d better get an electric car’
        and “Sadiq is a hero cos he is de-polluting London by restricting diesels despite the evil Tories’

        The truth is of course that African/Asian mothers cooking indoors over open wood/dung fires often die years early due to pollution
        And that UK pollution has dropped massively over the last 60 years over whole range of pollutants.

        Pollution is not a black and white simple thing
        rather full colour complex and there are a wide spectrum of pollutants split between particles of sizes and substances like NOx
        and that within particle sizes the toxicity of particles can vary.

        The gov has recently pointed out that in an important pollution categrory PM 2.5 the smallest normal size is domestic wood and COAL burning that make up 38% of (UK man made) that category
        .. No one can believe that cos they have all been programmed by the media to believe that diesels are the worst polluters
        ..but no in that particular category they are not.

        The 38% fig is not super robust cos it is modelling not physical measurement, and assumes stoves are of the old type not new eco stoves,( but even they are not super clean).
        The prog then asked what does real world sampling give
        And the expert explained real world measurement is different broader category cos it includes other pollutants,
        Other than UK man made, there are #1 natural, #2 stuff blowing in from abroad etc
        and of that broader category 10% of the PM2.5 near the fingerprint of wood/coal burning.

        The matter is complicated cos they are talking pollution OUTPUT
        and what actually counts is pollution INPUT to your lungs
        and most people don’t stand in the middle of the road next to a pollution monitor nor outside a wood stove chimney
        They are 22 hours/day indoors a house/school where the air is different and affected by things i the kitchen and bathroom aerosols etc.

        typo : prof Tony Frew was the expert who suddenly died


        • StewGreen says:

          The expert also said that wood stoves have a different life pattern to cars
          That once you have a wood stove you use it for 30 years plus
          whereas with vehicles you replace them with cleaner tech every 10 years or so anyway.

          I suspect Sadiq’s mates have all bought trendy wood stoves that will keep pumping out PM2.5 for the next 30 years..and he’s not got any policies against them.


      • Banania says:

        What did he die of?


  4. StewGreen says:

    A metrobbubble journo has written a book
    Merchants of Truth: The Business of News and the Fight for Facts
    – We can guess that journos plagiarise other journos all the time
    – We can guess that a journo like her farm out their book work to minions
    So when she published it , other journos start saying
    ‘actually I wrote that paragraph there’
    .. She replies ‘yeh but yeh, I forgot to attribute properly’
    FFS woman you are not doing an amateur blog, you are are just showing how you have a culture of being sketchy with facts
    .. Jll Abramson was the editor of The New York Times
    from 2011 until she left in 2014 after clashing with staff


  5. theisland says:

    Fighting talk from TR on facebook with updates on ‘Panodrama’.
    I’ll leave it to the more technologically adept to post the links. Stew?
    And there’s also Pt. 1 of 3 of a film made by a friend entitled THE REAL TOMMY ROBINSON on youtube (separate from the Panorama expose).


  6. Up2snuff says:

    Is it just me or has Brexit Boredom started to grip the nation and even affect the BBC a little? Mark Mardell’s usual anti-Brexit The World This Weekend (R4 1-1.30pm) seemed to have lost some of its spite and bite.


    • StewGreen says:

      I’ve not heard anything about the SorosPeoplesVote for ages,
      … but maybe that’s cos I have my “Owen Jones shields” up at level 11, by not listening to BBC R4 news 5Live anymore


    • honestus says:

      Up2, all part of the master plan. The quiet periods interspersed with massive media attacks on Leave supporters, their reasoning and their intelligence. All the time important people (our betters) sit in darkened rooms plotting how to give a minority voting tranche the equivalent of more than one whole vote thereby overturning and cancelling the referendum result. I keep looking for the banner of resistance being raised but it looks like we’ll run out of road first.


      • honestus says:

        Oh and the ‘crashing out’ statements – 4 on Marr alone this morning. Seriously, the contempt and hatred that they must feel for us must keep them awake at night.


  7. Roland Deschain says:

    I do hope that Tommy Robinson’s film is all it promises to be. I’ve seen too many of these things turning out to be damp squibs, so am not getting hopes too high.

    If it is, however, you can be sure the establishment will throw everything they can to stop it. It would not surprise me to see an injunction, putting him in contempt if he publishes.

    One thing you can guarantee if they can’t shut TR up: silence. It will not be reported in any of the MSM and the likes of Guido will show their true colours.

    It may be left to all of us, using whatever accounts we hold, to do the spreading as the usual suspects are sure to have their accounts shut down. I note that the latest to suspended on Twitter is Guy Verhoftwat, whose barbs at Verhofstadt must have been getting too close and it will only get worse as the lights of free speech are further extinguished.


    • taffman says:

      Roland Deschain
      We will have to get our consultant Al Beeb correspondent and critic to have a look at it .


    • G.W.F. says:

      Yes. Guido will not support TR’s video.

      Of interest will be the response from Spiked. These guys are running a war with Trump, and have recently condemned the prosecution of the mother who was found guilty of performing FGM on her daughter.
      I predict they might defend the BBC against TR’s attack on the BBC’s right to report as free journalists.
      The establishment are circling the wagons.


  8. BRISSLES says:

    Well everyone on the BAFTAs are thanking everyone including the postman and dog walker again, some are even thanking their kids for god’s sake ! WHY ??? Christ, they say that politicians live in a different world, but this lot take the bloody biscuit.


    • Helena Hand-Basket says:

      Brissles, I’d love to see an alternative award ceremony (The Barftas) for the most nauseating performances by media and entertainers. The coveted trophy should be a gold-painted plastic bucket, filling with a stream of silver glitter vomit from a viewer’s mouth. Possible categories:

      Editing and special visual effects:
      The BBC are a strong contender here. Skills include making a vast crowd of Trump or Tommy Robinson supporters appear to number dozens. (Extra points are awarded for photographing someone with his hand raised to ask a question. The scene can be edited to look like a Nuremberg rally.) Another prize-winning ability is to locate the only Sudanese spectator at Wimbledon or the Proms for a lingering close-up.

      A Barfta could be won by sabotaging a microphone while a UKIP representative is making good points on a TV discussion. Another award might be given to the presenter who most effectively disguises his/her posh roots with a mockney accent and swallowed consonants. Fiona Bruce is a hot favourite here!

      There must be many more – such as ‘Most convincing virtue-signalling’. I’ve run out of time, though!


      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Brilliant ideas as always. Thank you Helena.
        For interviewers a ‘shutting people up when they are too clever for me’
        award. While it seems like Jo Coburn would be a dead cert, there maybe a few others out there who could challenge her for that.


      • Guest Who says:

        Very good; make it so.

        Inspires me to put forward ‘Best use of senile luvvie trying to use a character’s perception to push BBC wet dreams’.


    • Guest Who says:

      As ever, the bbc daily propaganda sheet entertains… and knows what is really news:

      Awards fever

      The Favourite dominated the Bafta film awards on Sunday night, picking up seven prizes, including best actress for British star Olivia Colman. It was a surprise loser in the best film category though, pipped by Mexican production Roma. Rami Malek won best actor for playing Freddie Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody. Watch the ceremony highlights.

      In the US, female stars dominated at the Grammys – following controversy over the lack of female winners last year – with awards for Lady Gaga, Dua Lipa and Ariana Grande among others. Brooklyn rapper Cardi B became the first solo female to win best rap album. Former First Lady Michelle Obama made a cameo, giving a speech about the unifying power of music. We’ve picked the stand-out moments from the ceremony and the red carpet.


      Hope they used a Dyson after Mrs. Barry swept by.

      Plus some unintentional humour in complement:


      Is young people’s mental health getting worse?


      Only that of those working in the cubicle gardens writing gush about exes. Few outside W1A go near bbc output and are probs ok.

      Makes working daily to polish off those that still pay uniquely all the more masochistic.


  9. StewGreen says:

    A Coutts’ banker sexism claim has failed
    She earned £400K but said she was underpaid and should earn more than her bosses, cos they don’t even have degrees and she has a law degree.

    BTW the 88 year old NHS office worker DID WIN her claim for unfair dismissal.


    • Nibor says:

      There should be a limit to compensation claims .
      Anyone earning over £200 000 a year should be excempt from claiming anything .

      They’re paid a lot , and should be able to withstand any slings and arrows of outrageous fortune .


  10. Fedup2 says:

    Wow -dipped into The Westminster Hour and got to 6 minutes in before the off switch .

    Two beeboids talking to each other about brexitvand party politics – no mention of The People – those who vote every once in a while . These journos are so far inside their bubble that if someone bursts it they just won’t know what to do .


    • gaxvil says:

      True – it is extraordinary how no mention gets made of the majority, democratic vote of the People to leave the European Union.

      Are they still arguing the result of ant previous General Elections and calling for a re-vote?
      I don’t think so.


      • maxincony says:


        True – it is extraordinary how no mention gets made of the majority, democratic vote of the People to leave the European Union.

        Yeah – it is extraordinary how a programme about whether we’ll leave the EU with a deal or whether we’ll leave the EU without a deal, never mentioned the fact that two years ago there was a referendum to leave the EU.

        Similarly, BBC Countryfile never, ever mentions the fact that some cows are small and others are far… away…


        • taffman says:

          Maxi you old Troll
          It’s extraordinary why you come here and defend an organisation that robs from the poor to give to the rich. You do a wonderful job in promoting Al Beeb.


        • Richard Pinder says:

          Maxincony: I’ve worked out that “with a deal” is Remain and “without a deal” is a WTO Article 24 Brexit. So a “deal” is “without a deal” and “with a deal” is a “not very good deal”. So “with a deal” is a fake Brexit and “without a deal” is a real Brexit. But if we do end up “without a deal” we will in fact end up “with a deal”, but not Teresa’s vassalage deal. The above is far too complex for anyone employed by the BBC to understand, but if you use the formula (“with a deal” + “without a deal” = Deal) its possible that the “Deal” is not passed by Parliament, or if it is, then they pirogue Parliament or the “Deal” is designed to be constitutionally illegal, therefore the Queen is unable to sign the “Deal” so “no deal” becomes inevitable, which means we end up with a free trade “Deal”. Therefore all ends well and the Remainers all look like fucking morons, causing the Irish people to become so angry, that they all want to leave the EU.

          Similarly, BBC Question Time never, ever mentions the fact that three or four Remainers represent 48% of the humans and one or two Brexiteers represent 52% of the humans because the BBC thinks Remainers are far… away…


  11. Nibor says:

    Beeboids ( and other lefties)
    Immigration has not been a 100% success .
    That doesn’t mean
    1) we don’t want it to be a success

    2) we won’t do our little bit to help make it a success .

    It means we are realists , not virtue signallers .

    Many of us don’t care for Donald Trump as an individual , we wouldn’t be his best friend , but

    We like him more then you .

    However much you put him down , you are lower , and get lower .


  12. taffman says:

    Al Beeb ……………
    “Spain Catalonia: Madrid mass protest over talks policy”
    Its kicking off in Spain now but like France, are we being told the truth ?


  13. Nibor says:

    Well I never .
    In the Obsever today , a little bit about Donald Tusk , the EU president ( amongst about six ) has been a


    Well maybe we should cut a little slack on this . He was young , and people do change .

    Many thanks to Maxicony , who showed half the photo of the the present one who thinks he sits at the right hand of God dispensing eternal justice . Was it taken by the Polish authorities at the time ? How times change eh ?


  14. taffman says:

    Another weekend comes and as usual the HYS’s are sparse .
    A shortage of censors employed by Al Beeb or is because they only work weekdays ?
    While maxi the ‘part timer’ has been driven back to his safe space.


  15. gaxvil says:

    NEWS:- “France’s decision to withdraw its ambassador to Italy may be the biggest diplomatic fracas between the neighbours since Benito Mussolini declared war on France in 1940”
    Fascinating ! All kinds of stuff that doesn’t happen in bbc land is going on out there.


  16. Lucy Pevensey says:


  17. taffman says:

    Spain is not happy with France and Germany . Is this on Al Beeb ?


  18. Richard Pinder says:

    Nothing on the BBC today, so why not read a book. Lots of nice books to read such as:

    (1) Can We Trust the BBC? by Robin Aitkin (ISBN: 9780826498847)
    (2) BBC: Brainwashing Britain? by David Sedgwick (ISBN: 9781999359102)
    (3) The Propaganda Bureau, by Andrew Montford (ISBN: 9781481236133)
    (4) The BBC and Climate Change: A Triple Betrayal, by Christopher Booker (ISBN: 9780956687555)

    If like me you have already read these books, then why not buy more of them as presents for friends and family.

    But I am sure that there are more than four books to read, with others in the pipeline, including one needed to update the BBC and its untold battle with causational climate scientists over the BBC’s climate science censorship policy. The story about the only BBC employee known to have a PhD in Planetary Atmospheric Physics, Paul Hudson, sent for training by people much less qualified than himself.


  19. jip says:

    Funny how the Donald Trump balloon in Kahns Londoan was very important to the BBC,

    … but not a dickie-bird about the Giant representation of Donald Trump as God-Emperor of Mankind featured in the Italian Carnevale di Viareggio, notice the twitter icons on the trump statue :)…

    Its almost like the BBC are a festering parasite of lies and deceit, sucking the blood of its host while poisoning it slowly to death.


  20. Payne by name says:

    Wow, those scenes of French police rough tactics against the yellow jackets are amazing. What’s more amazing is how the Beeb would be losing their shit about it if it was happening in the USA.

    But as it’s happening in France, they’ll decide to keep it on the low because the last thing they want to do is;

    a. Promote any form of civil unrest or disobediance
    b. Paint any part of the European Union in an unfavourable light.

    Far better to keep telling the UK masses that we are fools and bigots and xenophobs for wanting to put some political distance between ourselves and a peaceful, united and harmonious Europe, rather than one that is teetering on a “cliff’s edge” that could be far more troublesome that a slightly more expensive bottle of Le Piat D’or or a brand new BMW.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Bbc news watch

      Project Fear today is a Snow Flake cop warning that UK be less safe because of Brexit .

      How’s that . ?

      We can put up full control borders so that those deported can’t stroll straight back in . And we can cut number coming in by 100 000s .

      The top cop seems to think Britain is safe now . Joke.

      As an aside
      It was nice to see Maxi trolling away last night but he doesn’t seem his normal vitriolic self . Perhaps knowledge of who he really is as upset him .

      Or the realisation that a full brexit is getting closer and we will start to put limits on his multicultural fantasy


      • Fedup2 says:

        Toady Watch

        A piece about an attempt to change the criminal foreign aid disgrace . ( I say foreign as opposed to the more exotic “overseas”. )

        The beeboid reports it without saying how much tax cash is actually given away – £13 thousand million pounds – 13 billion .

        Think what UK could do with 13 billion- Social Care, looking after our elderly . Building stuff.
        Instead it’s given away so that politicians can get a warm feeling .


        • popeye says:

          Just to point out, the Beeb (and politicians) say that it’s “only” 0.7% of GDP. Yes, but it’s actually 1.6% of the tax take, that is, what the Government has to spend. So getting rid of it would be the equivalent of a tax cut of 1.6% or, better, billions to spend on essential services.


        • Payne by name says:

          FedUp2 “Think what UK could do with 13 billion- Social Care, looking after our elderly . Building stuff. Instead it’s given away so that politicians can get a warm feeling .”

          Think what we could do with three times that amount – £39 billion.


    • Guest Who says:

      Not amazing; nauseating. But you are correct about the editorial integrity convolutions the bbc are currently engaging.

      Has anyone looked into claims about the composition of these stormtroopers?


  21. john in cheshire says:

    This video is only 2.5 minutes long. Tommy Robinson exposing John Sweeney for the sneering snob he is. And as Tommy Robinson says, he’s typical of the far-left bbc collective hive drones:


  22. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Is Brexit the Fashion Kiler?”” (Click-Bait Headline on News Page)

    “”Brexit: How could it affect the fashion industry?””

    “”Brexit could mean buying your favourite brand may cost you more. Here’s why.””

    Could, could and could. This word allows the BBC to write anything and everything defamatory about Brexit. And they sure do.


  23. Foscari says:

    Whilst working last night on my lap top I could hear hear
    the BAFTA awards on the BBC . Like Letitia Wright I would
    like to thank God for everything. Who else could of let me
    know that Heracles would beat Ajax in the Dutch Football
    league . What a 20/1 winner! Thanks God.
    It’s just a same that God acts in a “strange way” when thousands
    of children die each day from disease in agony all over the world.
    Or Letitias’s black brothers dying in the streets after being stabbed.
    Who’s most likely last words are ” Mum ” or” GOD help me”


  24. Doobster78 says:

    Imagine if this headline was the other way round ?? Man “looking” for woman !! There would be outrage about how “threatening” the rhetoric was …. they want equality when it suits.


  25. Greisingel says:

    Recommend sites that provide unbiased EU activity figures (all zone countries): finance, immigration, policy. Are there any that simply provide unpoliticised data? In particular, figures relating to Britain and EU.


  26. theisland says:

    ‘EU Army’
    @VeteransBritain keep trying to explain the dangers of the EU’s expanding defence schemes but few are listening and most are ignoring. All the post-referendum sign ups seem to have been conducted by the FCO (rather than the MoD).

    The EU is not raising a separate army, it is building the political architecture that sits above and between existing militaries of EU member states, thereby controlling them collectively.

    When Macron, Merkel and Juncker crow about an ‘EU Army’ they are dreaming about the end result of what they’ve already created via political and budgetary frameworks.

    Theresa May placed the UK in all but one of these frameworks since the Brexit vote and aims to place the UK in the final one within months of the official exit date.
    Most MPs know next to nothing about these arrangements.

    [Apparently, Alan Duncan is due to sign yet another defence treaty with the EU in 7 weeks]

    Vitally important that these arrangements are stopped and the United Kingdom electorate has accountability and autonomy over Defence decision-making going into the future.
    Only this scenario within NATO keeps us truly safe.
    May’s Deal is an attack against these principles.

    As commented this is more concerning than the ‘backstop’ which is, perhaps deliberately, diverting from all else.


  27. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    If I heard this correctly, Martha is still in a muddle on tariffs. “Our food will become much more expensive if we leave with No Deal and a tariff of 36% is applied.”

    Er, except it will not affect the UK.

    It will, however, push up the cost of food in the EU – not here – if the EU chose to break WTO Rules and impose a higher tariff (current tariff would be approx 20%) on food from the UK. We would be much more likely to get cheaper food because UK producers would want to sell more in their home market.


    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Martha in a Muddle’ sounds a promising series.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Martha the bee interviewing the Australian high commissioner doing a kind of ‘ day today ‘ act as Chris Morris trying to get Australia to declare war on Uk.

        Unfortunately for her the high comm sounded so confident about relations with UK post brexit that she cut him short .

        Poor BBC – desperate for Blighty to fail


      • Up2snuff says:

        GW, yes. Maybe it is because she has trouble switching between her hive mind, mind, and her HIVE Mind?

        I’ll get my coat …..


  28. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2

    An exemplar of leftlibbie BBC confusion. Another day, another dollar. Not. No, another “Wolf!” cry. These scare stories come along more reliably than London buses!

    In a hundred years (exactly? – Justin did not ask) insects may become extinct on Planet Earth and we will be in trouble. Actually, that is rubbish science: we will be in trouble long before that insect extinction point is reached as any school pupil should be able to tell you. Not a highly paid BBC presenter though. What will make them extinct? Need you ask?

    Global Warming and Climate Change.

    Insects outweigh humans by 17x, according to Justin. Actually, if I recall correctly that figure may be nearer half that. And if it is falling, it should be less. Doesn’t matter, because whatever the proportion is, it means the CO2 and methane produced by the world insect population (and, often, their habitats) is 9x humans or 17x humans or somewhere in between those two multiples and that is causing Global Warming and Climate Change according to the IPCC and BBC and PC fraternities. Justin did not ask about that.

    I wonder why?

    Anyway, is anything else causing this devastation of the world insect population? Yes, insecticides. Justin did not ask on what are insecticides used.

    I wonder why?

    The IPCC and BBC and, no doubt increasingly, the Political Correct Fraternities want us to give up eating beef and lamb, and preferably all meats, and live on arable crops to save Planet Earth from Global Warming and Climate Change. Now there’s a big problem for the world insect population. Not only would their extinction save the planet from AGW & CC, a switch to a total world vegan diet would demand much greater use of .. er … umhhhh… er… pesticides to grow sufficient arable food. Ooops! Justin did not ask about THAT.

    I wonder why?

    Then there’s another problem for world insects if you get rid of meat from the world diet. Is there a World Insect Day? Maybe we need one? If there’s one thing a good scientist – as opposed to a bad scientist that is usually on the BBC – will tell you, then farming meat creates great food for ….. insects … as anyone who has seen daggie sheep flapping their daggie tails at flies on a hot spring day before they are shorn for summer. Cows are even better, creating massive amounts of food for dung beetles. Justin did not ask about that.

    I wonder why?

    The BBC have really outdone themselves for leftlibbie nonsense on TOADY today. I wonder if anyone on TOADY, from Editor-in-Chief Sarah Sands down, ever puts any critical thought into what items they broadcast to the waking nation and world?


    • Old Goat says:

      That would be “no”…


    • JamesArthur says:

      Excellent post and covers all of the things that crossed my mind plus some that didn’t when listening. The BBC always have to focus on climate change… Don’t you just love these scientists that come out with figures that can’t be substantiated until way after they have been forgotten…( which is often a year)..

      As an aside I wass driving at 4.30 am and switched on R4 – it’s actually the World Service and apparently the World is anywhere but Europe or white populations and seems to be mainly Africa and the Middle east

      Later on R4 some MP saying we should treat the World Service as part of our International Aid programme – so fund the BBC via another mechanism. Didn’t hear any Beeboids say no….


      • Up2snuff says:

        Ta, JA, but I have just been reminded of one thing that I forgot this morning! It was not that long ago that the BBC were promoting the idea that more people would supplement their normal diet, especially if meat was reduced or removed entirely, with – in substitution – a diet comprised of insects. Oh dear!

        Oh dear, oh dear! Someone on the TOADY Programme really did not join the dots on that one. I have to say, that in the 6pm News on R4 there was a subtle hint that all might not be well with the research.

        Has the TOADY Programme been spoofed again? It does seem like FakeScience.

        Sarah Sands should resign.


  29. Doobster78 says:

    The answer to your tweet BBC is YES … and do you EVER think it may be down to all these pathetic liberal agendas that YOU force upon these said young folk ?? CONSTANT, and i mean CONSTANT tripe about gender etc ….. do us all a favour and give them a break and let them be kids FFS !!


  30. Old Goat says:

    Not BBC, but being a reluctant listener to Classic FM, I discovered that their new recruit, Moira Stewart has started reading the “news” bulletins this morning, and the presenters are orgasmic, and oozing affection – she was even reading a bulletin every twenty minutes, earlier. Once an hour is more than sufficient on this station. Yes, she’s well known, but she’s just a news reader…


    • Guest Who says:

      Really? Like many, we are reluctant CFM listeners when streaming services not handy.

      But between dire ads and even more dire Global tripe it is hardly worth it. And now they are cramming more in?

      Are they operating a revenue policy with ads the same way the BBC is with the TVL?


    • Banania says:

      Did she talk about her ‘athletic’ relationships with ‘delicious’ men?


  31. Guest Who says:

    The BBC knows what is real news.

    Why fitness instructor and DJ Miri Danziger takes a ritual bath after her period.


  32. Guest Who says:

    And a quick #CCBGB to brighten the mood.


  33. Guest Who says:

    John showing why he is worth the big bucks.

    Well, to the BBC, and people around the world whose views they all share.


    • vlad says:

      People like Simpson hear what they want to hear. Ruing ‘imperial nostalgia’ sounds like the sort of treacherous hateful comment a bastard beeboid would solicit and go fishing for.
      Or invent.


    • gaxvil says:

      Well John, maybe they might think that because that’s what they hear on your bbc. They must take it to be true because the bbc is not state run?


    • Doobster78 says:

      And goes without saying, as per Gary Lineker, Gavin Esler etc etc that all views are his own and not that of the BBC …….yeah right !!!


    • Greisingel says:

      Imperial nostalgia? Simpson is talking to whom exactly? Simpson has lost it. Land grab China – Tibet? India Kashmir craziness. US Venezuela democratisation. We want UK independence? Simpson is a monumental creep.


  34. gaxvil says:

    Where’s Radio Free Britain ? Da da da daaa, da da da daa.
    Ironic, people in repressed countries would turn to the bbc for the news.
    We don’t.
    Piece on bbc WS on how Russia is re-writing the history of their involvement in Afghanistan and making out it was a moral mission and a victory. EG: They had to invade to stop the US IMPORTING drugs to the country.
    I’m sure the bbc will only be bolstered and further inspired by this example.


  35. StewGreen says:

    Trans and all
    R4 This morning
    9:45am Daily Book of the Week : Diary of a Trans converting to a man, and so examining masculinity (Thomas Page McBee)
    I suspect it was arranged with the Guardian
    10am Woman’s Hour : started with the need to normalise hard core porn to show “queer practices” Nelson Mandela’s PA (a White Afrikaans lady)
    11:30am Alleged comedy. I quote “Imagine if Woman’s Hour made a podcast about preparing for the end times.”
    2:15pm drama : continuateion of Mamluk slave rulers of Egypt (a vehicle to get a load of BAME on the radio)
    3:30pm Food prog : All about women and curry “Sheila asks why there are not more women in Britain’s Asian restaurants.”


  36. StewGreen says:

    “Hard Brexit jobs losses in Germany and France” is a topic most media carry
    BUT \\ No results found for “jobs in Germany”.//

    Times : \\ A no-deal Brexit would jeopardise at least 100,000 jobs in Germany and up to 50,000 in France because of a slump in exports, according to a study//

    See DW


  37. StewGreen says:

    Russian polar bears
    The BBc report says it’s all about Climate Change and starving polar bears

    \\ The RT report never mentions climate change as the reason the bears are there.
    “Russian Arctic town suffers POLAR BEAR INVASION, dozens of predators ‘won’t go away’ (VIDEOS)”
    There are numerous photos and videos, none of which seem to show bears that are anything other then well-fed. Compare and contrast BBC reporting, which is riddled with climate alarmism as the reason the bears are there. I suspect that the likely reason is that the bears live in Novaya Zemlya, not a region where humans would normally live, and that the humans are in the way. Bears aren’t stupid – if there’s an easy food source they’ll take it, but it doesn’t follow that climate change means they are starving. //


  38. StewGreen says:

    BBC Homeppage agenda pushing today


  39. tarien says:

    Britain should redirect foreign aid money to its homeless veterans and poor elderly -about time.
    As we Brexit and look forward to a Global Britain our foreign interests are going to change so government departments need to downsize, disband and re-focus.
    The first department that needs to be axed is the Department for International Development (DFID), also known as Britain’s Department of the Bottomless Pit. Tony Blair, had the bright idea of creating its very own Department of the Bottomless Pit. David Cameron sought to detoxify the Conservative party, he had the half-witted idea of outdoing Blair by linking foreign aid to GDP, which under New Labour was a ‘commitment’, Cameron enforced it into law.
    The good news is that because of the fantastical budget this politically exposed the goings-on within the Bottomless Pit. Our current prime minister, Mrs May, supports retaining the Bottomless Pit. Apart from a slight dip in slush fund contributions in 2007 because of the financial crisis, it rose immediately steadily climbing to a whopping £14bn per annum.
    The Bottomless Pit has 2,700 people. (Six hundred of the Bottomless Pit staff are currently on secondment to the Brexit Department, so that tells us that they should be sacked after Brexit as they are clearly not needed. We all know where that is. Of course the BBC would wet themselves if that dam PIT was exploded and done away with-what would the poor Africans, Pakistanis, Roma people and other such unwordly causes do?


    • gaxvil says:

      The argument I always heard was that it encouraged recipients to buy goods from us, such as tractors and seed. It didn’t make sense then and it doesn’t now.


      • Jagman84 says:

        Just send them for free. It would be cheaper in the long run. If it is a success, they will have lots of crops to feed the population and be able to export any surplus food.


    • Navets says:

      We actually spend more on foreign aid than we do on roads despite the revenue raised from the motorist, supposedly to fund spending on roads:
      The latest figures (2016/7) show an annual spend of £9.77bn compared with receipts from road tax, fuel duty and VED of £33.81bn.
      I would have no objection to foreign aid for unforeseen disasters on an arising need basis, but wholeheartedly object to the blank cheque approach, especially in view of the appalling neglect of infrastructure that we are supposedly paying to fund, as shown in the above example.


      • gaxvil says:

        We constantly comment on the billiard table smooth roads in far flung, supposedly impoverished places. It’s really quite astounding. Two miles from a city in a major conurbation and our roads look like they’ve been shelled.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The Toady discussion today didn’t mention foreign aid money – just percentages of GDP – whether .2 or . 5% should go to this or the other .

      What this really means is thousands of millions of taxpayers cash sent abroad by politicians who think they know better how to use your money than you do .
      And a so called conservative government did it . Drain the damn swamp .

      Rant done -but this one really cheeses me off …


  40. Terminal Moraine says:

    Just seen the Marr interview with Spike Lee (a man not usually known for his reticence when it comes to calling out racism) about the Liam Neeson affair. To his credit, Lee doesn’t rise to the bait and instead offers some fairly impartial and balanced commentary e.g. “I don’t know… you’d have to ask him.”

    It’s all far too mild and reasonable for Marr, so he invokes the Guardian’s professional malcontent Gary Younge (who’s probably on speed dial at W1A) to toss in a hate grenade: “what this really shows is — for a lot of white people — black men in particular are still not quite human…”

    If you can’t create enough strife on your own, rope in a loyal agitator to get the job done.


  41. gaxvil says:

    Are we still calling blackboards, blackboards ?
    Then it follows, we are truly beyond salvation.

    And that’s about the level of the Neeson thing.


  42. StewGreen says:

    Oh Amol is doing the R2 Vine Show

    Is this thing a new Peoples Vote thing ?
    \\2️⃣ With Parliament deadlocked over Brexit is a ‘citizens’ assembly’ the answer?
    A citizens’ assembly would bring together 250 citizens, give them all the evidence, and then let them advise what happens next.//
    \\ 4️⃣ Are we facing an ‘Insect Armageddon’? A report says there is a real danger we could face the extinction of insects, which would be a catastrophe for the planet. These photos are just beautiful. (link: //


  43. StewGreen says:

    Hull news : 1pm BBC Radio Humberside did name the Pole and charges.
    \\ Charges put to Pawel Relowicz include stealing sex toys and knickers and masturbating in Wellesley Avenue//
    Seems he’s possibly an autistic perv ..they haven’t pinned abduction on him yet.


  44. StewGreen says:

    R4 Feedback fishinh for R2 opinions


  45. Doublethinker says:

    Labour in talks with the PM about a phoney Brexit designed to keep us as close as possible to the EU so that we can rejoin at a later date.
    I flip between thinking we might get a cleanish break , ie in BBC parlance ‘crash out’, and thinking that we will never get free from the EU unless it self combusts.
    Presently I think that the Great Betrayal is being plotted by the political class at the above talks and that those few MPs who remain true Leavers are going to be outflanked by whatever deal the talks come up with. No doubt We will be bombarded 24/7 with Project Fear maximum strength on the one hand , and with the propaganda that this ‘deal’ , whatever they cook up, does deliver the essentials of Brexit, on the other. It will be relentless for the next few weeks. They hope that by this show of political unity and non stop propaganda that the Leaver majority will be convinced that their democratic choice has been honoured in as far as was possible.
    Absolute tosh of course the whole Brexit negotiation has been a sham with more concern on both sides, the UK government and Brussels , about how the UK could be kept as close as possible without upsetting too many Leavers and driving them into the arms of any populist who has the courage to stand for election in the UK. But the obstinate nature of the Leavers may have convinced Brussels that the last thing they want is for the UK to have 70 odd Euro scepticMEPs to join the growing opposition to more Europe in the sham European Parliament . So they will probably want us out as far as voting rights go but in as far as payments go and our traitors in Westminster are likely to agree. We are being sold down the river by our own political class. There has to be a day of reckoning for this treason.


    • theisland says:

      Spot on.
      At present we just have different levels of deceiver deceiving each other.

      The true Leavers in parliament are useless because they are far too polite.
      Traitors should be removed by fair means or foul.


  46. gaxvil says:

    It really does beggar belief how the bbc spend so much time reporting Africa – the unlawful, the corruption, the anti-democracy, the elites, the blatant hypocrisy.
    A definitive case of the pot calling the kettle none white.


  47. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Henceforth I shall inspect every item I am considering buying to establish its origin.

    In addition to the UK I will purchase items made in Hungary, Austria, Slovakia and Poland.
    I consider them to be currently friendly states.

    All other members of the EU I consider to be enemy states and I will not buy their products.

    If 17.4 million people followed my example this would result in considerable unemployment in the EU.

    It would be helpful if there was a list of enemy companies in the UK whose products we should also boycott, with the intention of bankrupting them.

    Sainsbury is top of my list.

    All other ideas for killing the EU most welcome.


    • gaxvil says:

      Coincidence ? Looking on eBay for pipe lagging amongst other things.
      The majority of such everyday items was from Germany.

      I look outside and see German vehicles a plenty, road menders using German machinery.
      I feel really quite ashamed of this country and how we’ve become so feckless and feeble.
      As my wife’s, Remainer, friend said, “We have to stay in the EU because we can’t do anything.”


      • Richard Pinder says:

        Looking on eBay for British products. Then use Advanced Search on eBay. (1) “Made in Britain” or “Made in the UK” etc (Exact Words, Exact Order), (2) Search including: tick, Title and Description. (3) Location: tick, From preferred locations (UK only).

        “Made in Yorkshire” produces 12,299 products, “Made in Britain” produces 99,310 products, but “Made in the UK” produces a whopping 2,270,936 products.


      • les whittaker says:

        Perhaps our 20+ ranking in education in Science, Reading and Maths has something to do with it. If people want greater prosperity they need to start showing interest in serious subjects. However, I’m not sure that Germany’s achievements will survive the next 50 years, and tests reveal that Japanese cars are significantly more reliable these days. My Golf is just OK but parts are expensive and still no 5 year warranty. Japanese next time, I think.

        However, I think your wife’s friend’s comment is just plain silly. Typical Remainer non sequitur.


    • Rich says:


      I haven’t used Sainsbury’s since Will and Kate’s wedding when our local store removed celebratory bunting that was for sale from it’s shelves because a member of staff, not a customer or customers, with Irish Republican sympathies found it affected their ‘parity of esteem’ and was offensive.

      If a British company with a store in a town with a Unionist and pro-royalty majority are willing to condone and capitulate so willingly to such anti-British bigoted and intolerant faux outrage and vindictiveness then they don’t need my money.


      • chancygardner says:

        I’d been looking for a reason to boycott the local Sainsbury’s apart from the fact that they have an annoying car park, so thanks for that.

        In any case, I tend to shop in the Coop because they proudly display the ‘fair tax’ label. Imagine that! A large company not trying to avoid paying taxes to the country in which they do most of their trade.


        • Rich says:


          You’re right about their car parks, bloody awful.

          My wife goes to Lidl for a few bits and pieces on top of the big shop, their top-quality Magnum rip-offs and the like, and they do a lot of good quality local stuff, Northern Irish meat, veg and dairy. Food we do well over here.
          They’ve very considerately put a Triclour on the front of all the produce from Eire that they sell. I’m sure they see it as a positive, as do I.

          It makes it so much easier to avoid buying.


  48. StewGreen says:

    Skip school Friday
    You take your kids out of school on holiday
    ..Big fine for you
    Teachers take your kids out of school to do a Global Warming march
    that is supposed to be FINE with you


    • gaxvil says:

      Said it before – the fines were to address ethnics sending kids back home for six months – that’s it.
      If as they say, one day out of school can ruin a child’s life – how come they have Inset Days?
      Whenever we’ve had a child off ill for any length of time, we always ask if they’ve missed anything vital?
      The answer is invariably, no.


  49. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I’m sure many of you on here can remember a picture of May about a year or so ago where she is bent almost double with one hand stretched out behind her as she was grovelling to one of the members of the royal family.
    It was so embarrassing.

    Wouldn’t it be funny if someone who knows how to do it was to take this picture of her and photoshop it into a picture of Juncker showing her total surrender to all things eu.


  50. Thoughtful says:

    I thought this might be of interest to those who become frustrated with the stupidity of the youthful derranged snowflakes:

    You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you. True power is sitting back and observing everything with logic. If words control you that means everyone else can control you. Breathe and allow things to pass.

    Bruce Lee



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