Weekend Open Thread 9 February 2019

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  1. Dover Sentry says:

    Brexit day is almost upon us.

    The BBC has presented us with a negative view whenever the word Brexit is mentioned.

    Time for change.

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    • jip says:

      Dover Sentry: Better buy an umbrella because you know the sky will fall down on brexit day, the importation of umbrellas will cease, in fact umbrellas will be un-invented and we shall return to the stone age.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Positive news about Brexit today. Before we joined, Britain came first or second in the Eurovision Song Contest in ten of the fifteen contests in which Britain was not a member of Europe. So Michael Rice has a 66 percent chance of being in the top two.

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  2. jip says:

    “Sir Lenny Henry says his mum was racially abused”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

    So to be clear, Lenny Henry once knew someone who said they were racially abused 65 years ago… so we have a news story on hearsay of an event where all the people involved are probably dead.

    But what is happening today?, is he concerned about the racial discrimination on the “BBC Asian Network” who only hire Asian people and discriminate against white people?, The BBC even openly racially discriminate against hiring white people on main stream media channels…

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907179/BBC-racism-diversity-Radio-1-Newsbeat-discrimination-internship-journalism-Open-Access

    Not to mention the BBC’s failure to report on the mass Islamic gang child rape of English girls, and their pushing propaganda generalizing all white people as inherently evil:

    Why is it that rich stuck up folk like these people, and Sir Lenny who are millionaires and can vote in the house of lords think that white working class people are only living in meadows where the money trees grow???,

    I got bullied ridiculously at school like many people but no-one gives a crap about short, shy, people with the wrong trainers… look at that recent “warterboarding” of the Syrian boy, English kids get water thrown on them and beaten up everyday, but folks like Henry don’t give a crap about them.

    I used to like Lenny Henry… but frankly, now he can shove it, and the BBC can go where the sun don’t shine as well.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Channel 5 at 8pm discover Scotland’s most hidden destinations in our new series ‘Secret Scotland’.
    .. Sounds interesting
    Who’s the presenter ?
    oh …Susan Calman

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    • Guest Who says:

      Dr. Bateman’s topiary maze in the Lowlands to be investigated?

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Two minutes in and she’s already referred to “my wife”.

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      • Beltane says:

        Well of course she has Roland. What else is there for her to talk about? At least the scenery will provide therapy.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          I’m going to start talking about my Border Terrier as my daughter. Just as plausible as having 2 women refer to each other as ‘the wife’ !

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Is Susan Calman that type of Scottish person who wears a kilt without any knickers?

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  4. Greisingel says:

    A childish Cambridge economist was briefly reported before what looks like it’s removal her offer to debate naked with JR-M. Even the bbc senses her rank puerility. Another example of bbc hypocrisy (imagine if a brexiteer had done something similar). Instead this infantile display proves once more that the remainer lobby is utterly pathetic.

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  5. Guest Who says:

    First… to comment whilst naked. Ok, I kept my socks on.

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  6. Annunaki says:

    Just have a think, 20 years ago, and some silly bitch, who claims to be an academic, feels she has to strip naked to be heard ? hmm, most, would despise this kind of self promotion, and now our socialist educated millenials at the BBC love it and the general population hate it nuff said well not really as she is objecting to female cover ups well pop off to your local beloved muslim ghettos naked if you objct to covering up females, and if you are lucky enough not to be gang raped you will at least be whipped and verbally abused, I guarantee it

    Try it in an english village you will be politely ignored, yet it is those english villagers you despise so much

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Frankly, the BBC has questions to answer here. There can be little doubt that she would never have been invited on were she not parading around in her birthday suit. Which means the BBC is complicit in her publicity stunt.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Cunning. They did seem to have many cameras ready.

        Time will tell if the loon with the moon is the best representative of the Remain claim to sanity.

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      • Jeff says:

        “Which means the BBC is complicit in her publicity stunt.”
        Roland, please! I’m a Cockney (now displaced to the Home Counties) but I still tend to think in rhyming slang.
        And I just got this unwanted very vivid picture…
        Eugh!

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    • StewGreen says:

      Ben Pile is worth reading : Drama queening stunts are not proper debate
      ..but rather a kind of bullying
      https://cliscep.com/2019/02/07/why-we-dont-need-academics/

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  7. Old Goat says:

    This is looking good…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Old – it’s a pity that TRs work against the BBC can’t be broadcast straight away . I’m sure the State will have a tame judge to issue a superinjunction .

      I noticed that an episode of panorama was pulled at short notice recently – I wondered if this might have been the reason .

      But TR looks a lot better . A good thing .

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      • The Duck says:

        Haven’t posted on here for months due to completely ignoring all BBC programming but as soon as saw TR’s video I had to come straight here.

        @Fedup2 I think he covers both your points. According to TR they have footage in multiple countries so a superinjunction is probably of no use. He also mentioned that he was in a meeting with the Panorama team this afternoon while a courier was on his way to deliver legal notices seemingly to stop them broadcasting a pack of lies, so that could well be why an episode was pulled.

        I like his idea of broadcasting outside their headquarters in Manchester though I suspect that the police will suddenly come up with some bogus public safety reason as to why that won’t be allowed. I also wonder if TR will be raided at some point, it’d be pretty stupid, but where TR is concerned I wouldn’t put anything past them.

        He does look a lot better I agree. After what he’s been through he deserves every bit of good fortune that comes his way.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      This is wonderful news. It’s great to see Tommy Robinson looking so happy and relaxed.

      I hope whatever dirt Tommy and his team have gathered on the far-left bbc collective that it does serious harm to this vile organisation.

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    • theisland says:

      @GerardBattenMEP
      2h2 hours ago

      Panorama asked to interview me for the prog. I knew it would be a hatchet job & refused. What T told me about his evidence is truly shocking. We are forced to pay a license fee so the BBC can destroy someone with lies. I know what he will reveal but can’t tell.

      Tommy Robinson is going to reveal how the BBC’s Panorama set out to frame him in its ‘Tommy Takedown’ programme. He has undercover evidence proving a ‘fake news’ scandal that will shock the nation. He says he will reveal all on 23rd Feb. My advice to him is don’t wait, do it now.

      I wonder if the government will wheel out Geoffrey Cox. Hopefully there are lots of copies of the evidence.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Newswatch should be fun.

        https://www.politicalite.com/breaking-news/breaking-tommy-robinson-to-expose-the-bbcs-fake-news-against-him/

        Maybe BBc Trending can pick up as things break?

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        • StewGreen says:

          I was worried about the sword of prosecution hanging over TR
          the way the Attorney General could at any point restart the Leeds trial
          ..However if the BBC did air a hit job doco, then that would probably be the end of the retrial idea , cos a trial would have been massively prejudiced by the doco.
          Still I can’t see how how TR can win against the metroliberal machine.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Stew – yes – the other alternative is to have a car crash in an underpass in Paris in a clapped out merc driven by a drunk …

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      • vesnadog says:

        “I wonder if the government will wheel out Geoffrey Cox”

        Now he is a BBC employee who should change his sex. Obviously not into female rather into, agender/bi-gender/non-binary/demi-boy/tri-gender demi-girl/all-genders/gender-non-conforming/gender-queer/intersex/feral-gender/non-feral gender/T-G/T-B/GF/non-conforming-gender/ not-sure/ other/hin-gender/her-gender etc etc…

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    • StewGreen says:

      AFAIK the area outside the BBC Media City salford has special laws that prevent people filming outside .
      Manchester also has a mayor that is very anti-Tommy as are all areas with socialist mayors
      like Sheffield and Liverpool, they’d bus the Hatey no Hopers in with the help of the unions.

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    • vlad says:

      I hope he’s right about the dirt he’s got on the beeb (though he has been known to err towards grandiosity before).

      More power to your elbow Tommy.

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    • maxincony says:

      Old Goat,

      This is looking good…

      LOL. It’s blatently obvious he’s completely off his face on cocaine. I doubt he’ll be feeling quite so happy when he wakes up tomorrow afternoon…

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      • taffman says:

        Maxi are you speaking from experience ?

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        • maxincony says:

          taffman,

          Maxi are you speaking from experience ?

          Not of taking it; but listening to and observing people who have, yes.

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          • taffman says:

            Then you mix with a lot of strange and dubious circle of friends.
            How about responding to my other Simple questions ?

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          • Richard Pinder says:

            Maxincony: Listening to BBC Radio and observing BBC TV, do you notice the fact that BBC Hypocrites use our licence fee money to build walls and internal borders with security guards for BBC property. Four numbered entrance codes, like 1984, for doors, such as room 101. And all to keep out Muslim terrorists and Black murderers from killing BBC staff.

            And then the BBC criticise Trump for wanting the same for Americans who can’t afford to build a wall around their property, due to Obama making them poor and defenceless.

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            • taffman says:

              Richard Pinder
              Maxincony has a team of ‘researchers ‘ supporting him that could be better employed with their time.

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              • Richard Pinder says:

                Maxincony could be working for the BBC, and know what super injunctions exist. I was given a list of super injunctions about the Salisbury incident by someone who claims to be an angry scientist working at Porton Down. Some of those super injunctions covered news stories that had temporarily appeared in the media and then where removed by professional journalists, leaving the only surviving source a collection of saved news stories by an amateur journalist in Salisbury. Maxincony noticed this, even revealing to me that the amateur journalist that I found after googling secret information that only appeared on his website, was a piano tuner. Maxincony possibly making a slip up by revealing to me that not all the super injunctions in my list were secret.

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          • Banania says:

            @Maxincony “…observing people who have…”
            We must defer to your experience of life in the BBC.

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      • Old Goat says:

        A tad worried, Maxi, are you? Might you be involved in some obscure way?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        maxi, are you an atheist? Or do you consider yourself to be a humanist? (I realise they can be one and the same but some people can be particular and can be accommodated.)

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    • vlad says:

      I hope and pray Tommy’s exposure of the evil beeb is as good (bad) as he says. Roll on the 23rd.

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  8. Lucy Pevensey says:

    The young TR, what a lovely looking boy!

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    • maxincony says:

      Lucy Pevensey,

      2005: 12 months for assault.
      2010: Arrested for a public order offence.
      2011: Convicted for football hooliganism.
      2011: Jailed for breaching bail conditions.
      2011: Convicted for assault.
      2011: Jailed for a rooftop protest in Switzerland.
      2013: Jailed for travelling under a false passport.
      2014: Jailed for mortgage fraud.
      2014: Convicted for public order offences.
      2015: Recalled to prison.
      2017: Convicted for contempt of court.

      But yeah, never mind; “what a lovely looking boy!”.

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      • taffman says:

        Ok maxi give us an example of Al Beeb’s pro Brexit news.
        Show us how Al Beeb is impartial. Ha !

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        We all know his record, Maxi. He has written about it himself! Why are you repeating it? Getting desperate?
        You have informed us that he is on cocaine. You may know the supplier? But there we have it, the whole thing will come to nothing he will wake up tomorrow and it will all be a bad dream and the BBC’s reputation for impartiality and honesty will remain intact. Indeed it will shine with a virtue resplendent. So what are you getting so worked up about?
        And what is the point of bringing up his criminal past. I’m sure there are plenty of political activists with far worse records than that. I am sure that if they were Islamic you would not give it a mention. In fact you wouldn’t be able to grovel low enough before them.

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  9. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Italiano

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  10. Beltane says:

    Quite extraordinary little ‘moment’ during Celebrity Mastermind. The third contestant, whose name escapes me but no matter, was introduced to the audience as being in a long and loving relationship, at which point the partner sitting behind was spot-lit and joined in with homosexual banter, including John Humphreys himself.
    Sexually gratuitous, insulting to many, utterly unnecessary and in the context of the program surely of supreme unimportance? Apparently not, to the BBC.

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    • Rich says:

      Bel,

      If the contestant was Richard McCourt it was probably his comedy partner, the other half of Dick and Dom. Both of them are straight.

      Dick and Dom are a CBBC Rik Mayall and Ade Edmondsen tribute act, like 8 year olds high on Skittles and Ribena, fart jokes aplenty.

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      • Beltane says:

        Thanks for the clarification Rich – although it makes Humphrey’s reaction all the stranger…..

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        • maxincony says:

          Beltane,

          Thanks for the clarification Rich – although it makes Humphrey’s reaction all the stranger….

          I suggest you watch the whole exchange again, Beltane; except this time without channelling the spirit of Cosmo Smallpiece. LOL.

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    • maxincony says:

      Beltane,

      …introduced to the audience as being in a long and loving relationship…

      Erm, no he wasn’t.

      homosexual banter…”, “Sexually gratuitous…”, “insulting to many…

      Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

      Comedy gold!

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      • Rich says:

        Don’t get too carried away Maxi, you’ll kick the feet out of your pyjamas.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Maxi – I’m watching your twitter feed to read what you saw at the theatre tonight dear luvvie – wa it at the National ? Or Barbican ? – do enlighten us …

          You must find some better ‘cut and paste material ‘ to defend your Far Left BBC than you have done recently . Are you well ?

          Some of us – of the Right – look forward to you incisive all knowing view and it’s a pity when it’s a bit ‘off weather ‘.. get well soon eh ? Particularly after brexit when the ReichEU flags are burnt .

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          • maxincony says:

            Fedup2,

            Maxi – I’m watching your twitter feed to read what you saw at the theatre tonight dear luvvie…

            Ooh, is that a feeble attempt at a gay slur, dear luvvie?

            What was that you said about;

            A new word has entered the language – Dox ‘To search for and publish private or identifying information about ( a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent… So bits of the world change for the worse -don’t they ?

            Sorry to break this to you but I’ve never been on twitter and don’t have any plans to start anytime soon.

            Which kind of shows you up as both a hypocrite and a gullible fool. But never mind huh?

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      • Beltane says:

        Always happy to raise a smile Maxi, even though diminished by association with such a professional umbrage-taker. Still, it must give some relief from all that repression.
        Comedy gold indeed.

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  11. Greisingel says:

    All my Radiohead albums into the trash. More infantile nonsense from the remoan lobbyists; this time the hugely talented Thom Yorke. He gives a staggeringly childish comparison between our desire for independence and the rise of Nazism. I am shocked at his stupidity. In a moment my admiration for one of music’s most brilliant voices is shattered. I’d expect it from the buffoon Roger Waters who believes democracy exists in Venezuela. Idiot. Already we are ruled by an unelected autocracy. It is a form of national socialism. The EU presidium is not interested in the ordinary man or woman. It is obsessed with its ideology and the elevation of its liberal elites.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I suppose the one on the left was and is on the Stasi Payroll ..maxi sometimes your nativity is so sweet – must be all that theatrical stuff you do. Anyway – nice to hear from my favourite ‘cut and paster ‘ so early in the evening .

      What happy gems are you going to favour us with ?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Ah maxi – your naivety is so sweet about stazi employees planted in ‘student committees ‘ – must be your theatrical bent .

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        So you don’t like the way Rees-Mogg looks because he’s clean?
        Commies are such snobs!

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        • Lefty Wright says:

          Lucy
          Oh come on Lucy.Keep up. Just as insanity is the new sanity so dirty is the new clean. It’s not rocket science. Just turn truth arse upwards and BINGO.
          XX

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      • Greisingel says:

        Tragedy how Tusk has adopted the new Bolshevism of Brussels. Wonderful that JRM fights for independence. How the tables are turned; the idealist is corrupted and the privileged humbled. It is the the liberal elites whose sanctimony and insane justice warrioring sponsored by the ogre Soros we must now be wary of. You’re Bertrand Russell-like humanitarianism is misguided.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Aunt Olive ? oh purleeeeese. Where DO they find these people ? and who has the time to trawl through all the Twitter Turds. Oh yes, Maxicony. Not averse to a bit of photographic bullying though.

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      • taffman says:

        maxi you are an attention seeking troll. It won’t further your career and your posts trying to support Al Beeb do not help the organisation that robs the poor to give to the rich.
        Simples

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        • vesnadog says:

          “maxi you are an attention seeking troll. It won’t further your career ”

          But being an employee of the Ant-Semitic BBC means his job is for life. Unless Sky..

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      • chancygardner says:

        Give over maxi, the guy on the left is Reek. The gender-released character from Game of Thrones aka Theon Greyjoy.

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      • Beltane says:

        Young Tusk looks like Eddie Izzard trying out ‘butch’.

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    • Siempre Recht says:

      How is this news to you? Yorke has ALWAYS been the epitome of the moronic, childish, non-intellectual, middle-class, Guardianista. To expect nothing other than stupidity, amazes me. I despise the pos.

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      • Greisingel says:

        The argument is news to me. That it is so unsupportable and childish. Of course I am aware that he is a member of the leftist liberal piss artistes club.

        I would have forgiven him for his music. Like Lennon these creatives stray out of their pens and look stupid. Remember that utter tool and near billionaire and voice of the poor Bono when he guest edited the Independent. Utter drivel from that moron. And his music is shite.

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    • vlad says:

      It can’t be a surprise to you that pop/rock celebs are fashionably leftish? Radical chic.

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  12. Rich says:

    Greis,

    I think I’ll give the new stuff from The Specials a miss as well.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47147069

    To paraphrase slightly, “She’s just another burden on the welfare state.. “

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Norway Iceland and Leichstenstein have made bi lateral agreements about citizen rights with Blighty . The list is getting longer irrespective of what the ReichEU intends . That won’t feature on the BBC even though it’s a fact not a Project Fear lie.

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Apparently Netflix has commissioned a series of ‘nature’ documentaries with Sir David Attenborough doing the voice over . This is upsetting the BBC because it thinks it has the monopoly of various Blue Planets .

    In response the BBC is doing a ‘Biased Blue Planet ‘ series showing the natural history of Remainers ….

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  15. Lucy Pevensey says:

    heh heh

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  16. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Lucy
    Priceless – and I ve never seen Starwars …bet the cops loved it .

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  18. BRISSLES says:

    Oh Christ, the awful Afua is on her bloody soapbox again (the Pledge). I’m not a violent person , BUT I have thoughts. Is that whats being called ‘doing a Neeson’ ???

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  19. Ed Hitter says:

    The BBC’s so called comedy show The News Quiz has a well worn formula. A topic is introduced and then the so called comedians take turns to aim childish insults and snigger abuse at their chosen target.
    Tonight’s show was typical of this illiberal, unfunny leftie smug fest. First topic – Trump’s state of union address – cue insults, abuse, much mocking of Trump.
    Second topic – Tusk’s Brexiteers in “hell” statement – cue mirth at Tusk’s expense, you would think, given the format.
    But no. Not this time. Not one dig. Just praise for him, and instead a swipe at the likes of Farage, Rees-Mogg etc.
    It’s amazing isn’t it, and so typical of the new left, that these so called comics can’t bring themselves to even try a joke at the expense of the very things that they ought to be up in arms about I.e. unelected politicians, pompous bureaucrats, male bullies, aggressive supra-states, anti democrats, enemies of the poor, federalist zealots.
    So one democratically elected president gets it in the neck, and one unelected president doesn’t. The BBC might not do comedy any more, but boy it drips with irony.

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  20. taffman says:

    maxincony
    A question you have never answered .
    Prey tell us why you post here ?

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  21. Annunaki says:

    a “twiitter storm” is three millenial snowflake [email protected] posting something about how offended they are about matters that the rest of the human regards as inconsequential, maxi is trying to create a breeze

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  22. Oldspeaker says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47159808

    Getty images telling it like it isn’t.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidance/stills/guidance-full

    “Care should be taken not to use images to mislead the audience.”

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    • Annunaki says:

      Care should be taken not to misrepresent ? UK around 86% white british, BBC website photos representing britain ? at the very least 50% most days black people, unless they are talking about knife crime or rape gangs and then…no photos unless it is a victim, or a white criminal, like Rolf Harris go figure

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  23. lojolondon says:

    Apparently – if they continue at the same rate – the French will use as much tear gas and as many rubber bullets on the ‘gilets jaunes’ in one year as Britain used in all the years of the ‘troubles’. So I went to check what £6B of taxpayers money is producing in terms of ‘news’ on the subject, and found it very sparse indeed. Almost no mention of riots, violence or police brutality, lots of ‘will they field candidates’ and ‘Macron fights back’, etc. Note that the BBC website search does not allow you to sort results by date, almost certainly intentional and not an oversight, so they can control the results.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=gilet+jaunes&sa_f=search-product&scope=

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  24. Annunaki says:

    And the BBC keeps harking back to the cost of Trumps visit…why ? and who caused the cost ? millenial tw”ts rioting because the Clinton sex offenders did not get elected ? so strange these people, well, not so strange if you can understand how they are being manipulated

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    • Annunaki says:

      Have ther been ANY BBC news stories about the cost of the following ?

      April 21-24, 2016
      Barack H. Obama
      Travel to London, UK as part of a trip to Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom and Germany. Photos are on Flickr.
      2014

      September 4-5, 2014
      Barack H. Obama
      Travel to Newport, South Wales, United Kingdom to participate in the 2014 Summit meeting of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).
      2011

      May 24-26, 2011
      Barack H. Obama
      State Visit of President Obama to the United Kingdom
      2009

      March 31- April 3, 2009
      Barack H. Obama
      Visit of President Obama to the United Kingdom

      2000-2008

      December 13-14, 2000
      William J. Clinton
      Belfast, London, Warwick
      Met with Prime Minister Blair and Northern Irish political leaders; addressed the people of Northern Ireland at the Odyssey Center; met Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace; addressed audience at Warwick University Arts Center.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    In which Emily has a source who signs…

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Ooo look…. no current Democrats!

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  27. Annunaki says:

    FYI
    Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States (1993–2001), has been publicly accused of sexual misconduct by four women: Juanita Broaddrick accused Clinton of raping her in 1978; Leslie Millwee[1] accused Clinton of sexually assaulting her in 1980; Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 as well as sexually harassing her; and Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without consent in 1993. The Jones allegations became public in 1994, during Clinton’s first term as president, while Willey’s and Broaddrick’s accusations became public in 1999, toward the end of Clinton’s second term. Millwee did not make her accusations until 2016.

    Clinton has adamantly denied all four accusations. Through his representatives, Clinton has responded to the allegations by attempting to discredit the credibility of the accusers, noting that (in the case of Broaddrick and Willey) they previously testified under oath that Clinton never made unwanted advances. Several witnesses close to Willey and Jones have stated that the two women described their encounter with Clinton as consensual.[2][3][4]

    Of all the allegations made against him, Clinton has only admitted extramarital relationships with Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers, both of which have generally been accepted as consensual. However, some commentators have nonetheless characterized Clinton’s affair with Lewinsky, who was at the time a White House intern, as sexual misconduct because of the vast power imbalance between a president and an intern; Lewinsky was 22 at the time and described the relationship as completely consensual.[5] In 2018, Lewinsky herself began to question her long-standing view that her relationship with Clinton had been consensual, characterizing the relationship as a “gross abuse of power” wherein the power differential between the two was so great that “consent might well be rendered moot.”[6]

    Charges of sexual misconduct on Bill Clinton’s part resurfaced during the 2016 presidential campaign of his wife, Hillary Clinton. When a lewd recording of Hillary’s opponent Donald Trump discussing the ability to grope women when in power was released during the campaign, Bill Clinton’s accusers, Broaddrick, Willey, and Jones, reemerged as critics of Hillary Clinton, accusing her of enabling her husband’s alleged sexual assaults on them. They appeared as guests at the second 2016 presidential debate and referenced Bill Clinton in pre-debate statements.

    During the 1990s, most Democrats suspended judgment on the three accusations or stated that they believed Clinton’s denials. In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations in 2017 and the many other such cases that emerged in the aftermath, the allegations against Clinton have been revisited and lent more credibility.[7][8][9]

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    • Annunaki says:

      Millenial wimmin marching in London time after time about Trump ? for what reason ? with the BBC desperately reporting each time as I said before and say again who is manipulating these easily led idiots ? who sanctioned these “marches” because a sex offenders wife who attacked his victims did not get elected ?

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  28. Annunaki says:

    “In retrospect, do you think Bill should’ve resigned in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky scandal?” correspondent Tony Dokoupil asked Hillary Clinton during an interview on the CBS show “Sunday Morning.”

    “Absolutely not,” Clinton said.

    “It wasn’t an abuse of power?” Dokoupil asked.

    “No. No,” she said, adding that Lewinsky “was an adult.”

    Lewinsky was 22 when the affair with Clinton began.

    Clinton also denied having any role in criticizing the character of Lewinsky and other women who accused her husband of sexual misconduct.

    The 2016 Democratic presidential nominee quickly tried to change the conversation to President Donald Trump’s own accusations of unwanted sexual advances and extramarital affairs.

       29 likes

  29. Guest Who says:

    Class.

    So, BBC… how did this latest attempt to get younger vie… listeners go?

    That dragon blonde from GoT she ain’t.

       22 likes

    • Greisingel says:

      Heh heh. She looks like she’s about to engage with the green mic. No phone call from Playboy coming in? No, didn’t think so.

         17 likes

    • dazzer says:

      It’s always the ugly ones that take their kit off!

         10 likes

      • john in cheshire says:

        I’ll add to that:
        It’s always the ugly ones who take off their kit for nothing.

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  30. Annunaki says:

    Who is marching against this :

    Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual misconduct multiple times

    Bill Clinton has faced a number of allegations of sexual harassment, assault, and other misconduct over the course of his long political career. Probably most famous was the revelation that he had a sexual relationship with Lewinsky while he was in office. After a now-famous denial — “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky” — he admitted to the relationship in 1998.

    As Vox’s Dylan Matthews has written, the affair, “while consensual in some sense, was nonetheless textbook sexual harassment of a subordinate of a kind that would (or perhaps more accurately, should) get many CEOs fired from their companies.” After all, Clinton was not only Lewinsky’s boss, but also the president of the United States.

    If Lewinsky had wanted to refuse an advance from Clinton, or break off their relationship, would she have felt free to do so? Or would she have felt trapped, knowing that the president had all the power over her future career?

    Questions like these are the reason that relationships between bosses and subordinates are sometimes banned by employer sexual harassment policies — given the power differential at play, it’s not clear that such a relationship can ever be truly, fully consensual. Since the rise of #MeToo, some high-profile men have lost their jobs as a result of allegations of relationships with subordinates — for instance, such allegations were among those that cost Lorin Stein his position as editor of the Paris Review.

       22 likes

    • Greisingel says:

      Look, you just have to let the suffragists get it off their chests (er, actually prefer not). They’ve succumbed to the smooth charm of Clinton. And democrats don’t rape. The bbc does give a mention to democrats who are accused of down playing their own alleged molesters. There are a few Democrat intern gropers apparently being investigated. If it is the ‘wimmin’ stropping through London, for godsake keep your tops on, no one needs to see the sagging Bristol. No Cambridge topless debating nor parading.

         21 likes

    • RJ says:

      Some of us can remember that when George Bush (the Elder) nominated the conservative judge Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court the Democrats tried to prevent his promotion using allegations from Anita Hill. Hill had worked for Thomas at the Department of Education and then at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. She alledged that he had made inappropriate comments to her. The feminists were up in arms that someone senior had made comments to someone junior and that such abuse of power made Thomas unfit for public office. Despite this he was confirmed by the Senate as a Supreme Court judge, by a vote of 52 to 48, but I’d better say nothing about the numbers.

      A few years later Clinton went rather further than making comments to Lewinsky, but the feminists thought that senior/junior behaviour was perfectly acceptable. Presumably because Clinton was a Democrat.

      The BBC took the line that Thomas shouldn’t be a judge but that Clinton should be President – which told me all thatr I needed to know about both the BBC and feminists.

         15 likes

  31. StewGreen says:

    Maxi’s tweet above is mocking a child for what they look like
    .. that is not a nice thing to do
    But about the level of adults who don black face masks, throw smokebombs , shout down other people’s marches and then claim they are fighting fascism.

       27 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      That reminds me of a comedian who died last week
      who became a rather nasty hatey snarling bigot,
      but despite that or because of that was paid by BBC to be on Radio4 panel shows.

         22 likes

  32. StewGreen says:

    Krishnan Guru-Murthy doing false equivalence

       29 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      KGM really appears to be worried about Kate Hoey too, on an equally selective basis.

         11 likes

  33. Siempre Recht says:

    On a separate note (related to the photos used on the BBC), and I think I may have seen this referred to here some months ago; but has anyone seen the current state of advertisements on commercial TV. It is literally “spot the white man” in ALL of these; with UK Drama (aimed at an older audience) being my current channel of choice. I wonder, if it’s this bad on UK Drama, it must be dreadful on ITV and would be unwatchable on the Beeb if they were ever forced to have adverts.

       38 likes

    • Deborah says:

      Only a few months ago somebody posted here that they were boycotting items whose adverts used BME actors (note to Maxi, I assume the poster was joking and just highlighting the number of black actors suddenly appearing in adverts). Like you, Siempre Recht, I too now watch more UK Drama than any other channel and have noticed that now there is almost no advert has only white actors.

         25 likes

      • Siempre Recht says:

        It’s not the BMEs or all the “white chicks” that necessarily do my head in, but please give it a rest when it comes to black astronauts, black skiiers, black Elizabethan kings, etc, in the adverts. It’s nauseating and utterly preposterous!

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  34. G says:

    “How many migrants have registered with GPs in the last decade?”
    ‘Full Fact’ tells us >6 million, ‘on our tax dime’:
    https://fullfact.org/immigration/6-million-GP-registrations/
    Using ONS Statistics:
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/migrationwithintheuk/datasets/localareamigrationindicatorsunitedkingdom
    Opens in excel to reveal much interesting info.

       25 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      G,
      I thought that was the start of a joke like, ‘How many migrants does it take to change a light bulb?
      At least 500,000 plus dependents and extended family’.

         25 likes

    • Annunaki says:

      I pay a lot, but asylum seekers and euro beggars and the scum of Europe do not

      Dear Mrs xxx,

      A new IHS payment of £500 is required for every application. You application will be invalid if a new IHS payment is not made. If you wish to query a previous IHS payment and request a refund, use the address below.

      https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/refunds

      Yours sincerely

      DPTS5

      Family and Human Rights

      UK Visas and Immigration

      Paid so far:

      Fiance visa : £950

      Marriage visa : £1260

      after 2 and a half years again: £1658 + £75 surcharge for Saturday attendance + £500 for accessing national health

      December 2018 charrge for re applying : £1060 + £60 for sending documents

      now charge £500 again

      but our romanian beeg eeshue seller remains begging on our street for 10 years now

         17 likes

  35. tapwatertory says:

    Who or what is a ‘maxicony’.

    It seems to be active in the small hours and make less and less sense as the night wears on for some reason.

    I did find this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo8R77X2jFQ.

    It’s got 12 views and makes no sense whatsoever, but get watching and let’s keep maxi in special brew for our own entertainment.

    Can’t wait for the 23rd. I’ll see you all there.

       16 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      Reckon a bbc employee who’s trying to go that extra mile to impress his masters.
      Failing that – just a freak. Since the closed asylums there’s a lot out there.

         12 likes

      • Annunaki says:

        Masters !!! how dare you use that sexist word etc. etc. I posit that there will never be a white british male (who does not wear a dress) as a presenter on the racist sexist BBC for whom the 86% white british fund on the radio or tv ever again

           16 likes

    • tapwatertory says:

      This is the link it should of shown, not Simon Cowell and some magician.

      Technology making me look thick.

         2 likes

  36. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Found this on the Telegraph letters page about the WA.
    Copied and pasted.

    The UK is shut out of all EU networks and databases for security – yet no such provision exists to shut the EU out of yours. (Article 8).

    The UK will tied to EU foreign policy, “bound by the obligations stemming from the international agreements concluded by the Union” but unable to influence such decisions. (Article 124)

    The ECJ is your highest court (Art. 86).

    The UK will remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ in certain areas until eight years after the end of the transition period. (Article 158).

    The UK will still be bound by any future changes to EU law in which it will have no say, not to mention having to comply with current law. (Article 6(2))

    Any disputes under the Agreement will be decided by EU law only – perhaps the most dangerous provision of all. (Article 168)

    Arbitration will be governed by the existing procedural rules of the EU– this is not arbitration as you would commonly understand it (i.e. between two independent parties). (Article 174).

    The UK is bound by EU rules on procurement rules – which effectively forbids you from seeking better deals elsewhere. (Articles 75 to 78)

    You give up all rights to any data the EU made with our money (Art. 103)

    The EU decide capital projectsthe UK is liable for (Art. 144)

    The UK is bound by EU state aid laws until future agreement – even in the event of an agreement, this must wait four years to be valid. (Article 93)

    Any powers the UK parliament might have had to mitigate EU law are officially removed. (Article 128)

    The UK will be liable for future EU lending. (Article143)

    The UK will remain liable for capital projects approved by the European Investment Bank. (Article 150).

    The UK will remain a ‘party’ for the European Development Fund. (Articles 152-154)

    And the EU continues to calculate how much money the UK should pay it.

    The UK will remain bound to the European Union Emergency Trust Fund – which deals with irregular migration (i.e. refugees) and displaced persons heading to Europe. (Article 155)

    Article 104 pension clause in which the UK promises never to tax former EU officials based here on their E.U. pensions, or tax any current Brussels bureaucrats on their salaries. The EU and its employees are to be immune to our tax laws.

    Then there is Article 101 in which the UK agrees not to prosecute EU employees who are, or who might be deemed in future, criminals

    And, of course, the UK will agree to pay £39bn to receive all of these ‘privileges’. (Article 138).

    We still haven’t had the FULL legal advice on the whole document yet. Government still in contempt of Parliament.

       45 likes

    • G says:

      EG,
      Yes, all focus of the ‘Backstop’. I’ve concluded that is a red herring to distract researchers from their own conclusion that the agreement, as a whole, is a stitch up. Which ever way you look at it, its a sellout to the EU and the public are being conned again not unlike what happended in the Seventies.

         33 likes

    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Thanks for posting that. the WA is truly atrocious with or without backstop. I would place good money that the majority of our lame and lazy MPs haven’t even bothered to read it.

         14 likes

    • Greisingel says:

      This excellent post should be one of the week’s starters. It gets into the real meat of of our battle for independence and the outrageous hostage-taking by Brussels.

         9 likes

  37. nigel tufnel says:

    In case anyone is still unsure who Maxicony actually is, this is his real name and twitter feed.

       20 likes

  38. Annunaki says:

    “Theatre critic”… says it all a rigorous education [email protected] over musicals followed by hard days at work [email protected] over the latest musical and paid to say all the crap we see on the tube about shite west end productions then mincing down the yellow brick road to his fave vegan dolphin friendly restaurant

       23 likes

    • Greisingel says:

      Once again on this site I am forced to change my underwear (I have a slight case of incontinence) and hard laughter causes the sprinklers. Some of the best lines here. “Mincing down the yellow brick road to his favourite vegan dolphin friendly restaurant”.

         4 likes

  39. countryblues says:

    BBC Radio5Live : last night…

    I came across this at 11.25 last night and listened until 12.35 when it concluded…I don’t know when it started.

    Catherine Blaiklock was interviewed by Stephen Nolan…she being the temporary leader(?) of the newly formed Brexit Party. Blimey! She was absolutely brilliant…Nolan was left spluttering or speechless the whole time…such a well informed, articulate and commonsensical woman. She chewed him up and spat him out basically. I’d love to see her interviewed by one of the BBC TV harridans 🙂

       32 likes

  40. StewGreen says:

    Times 1/2/2019 james kirkup
    \\ signs of the BBC’s coming irrelevance: 44 per cent of males aged 16-34 watch no BBC TV in the typical week.//
    \\ The BBC reacts by trying to fight YouTube
    BBC Online now reports on vloggers and celebrity pap as news. To lure the indifferent young to its radio and podcasts, the BBC built Sounds, an app (kids love apps, yeah?) that has succeeded only in annoying existing listeners. //
    but then changes tack
    \\ Time to add “saving the BBC” to the list of long-term national challenges to address if we ever get over Brexit. //
    Commenters lay into the BBC

    Top Comment
    * Why should we pay a licence fee to be brainwashed? *
    I stopped watching the BBC news programmes a couple of years ago, because I started to feel physically ill at viewing the news through a left-wing filter.
    – The post-referendum coverage was the final straw. I simply do not want this leftie-liberal horseship pushed down my throat.
    – I seldom watch any BBC drama, for the same reason. Token ethnic minorities, sexual deviance, political correctness, are all infiltrating programmes where they do not belong.

    Other comments ar similar
    \\ The more the BBC seeks to shove its politically correct leftie-luvvie agenda down its viewers’ throats, the more viewers turn away. //
    \\ Arrogance, agonizing political correctness, chronic left wing bias, sacrificing quality in the misguided pursuit of gender equality (gender equality is irrelevant in the entertainment business) . . . just a few of the reasons that I hardly listen to the BBC these days.//
    \\ I can’t abide the BBC these days. It’s SJW multiculturalism and left wing ideaology permeate nearly everything it does and how it does it.

    My children watch CBBC and the have Victorian cosine drama series where the police officer and many of the children living in the stately home are black afro Caribbean actors. Modern SJW plotlines are then woven into each episode and the result is a wholly fictional unrepresentative, indeed distorted, rewriting of history for our children. In a way its actually sinister.//
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/past-six-days/2019-02-01/comment/bbc-needs-to-go-back-to-basics-if-it-wants-to-survive-26mnshws0

       42 likes

  41. StewGreen says:

    oops left radio on then the News Quiz started
    off ..after 30 seconds cos the American guest Desiree Burch was just spouting continuous hate “he gives American women the clap”

    Oh it was a ll woman panel, all violently anti-Brexit
    #BBCFakeDiversity

       26 likes

  42. StewGreen says:

    9pm R4 anti-Trump Drama
    : Mueller: Trump Tower Moscow
    Contemporary drama set behind the scenes of the Mueller investigation into Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia. Investigators look to his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.

       15 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      Freedom of speech and having choice is all well and fine, if we have it, but we do not. I and a few million others don’t want the bbc though we pay for it to continually insult us and deride our beleifs.

         21 likes

  43. Annunaki says:

    No democrat Clinton groping and rape dramas ? with his wife applauding and all the wimmin marching through London week after week in support of his sex crimes ?

       20 likes

  44. Annunaki says:

    Cambridge University student being held without charge in a ‘modern day hellhole’ in Africa

    PhD student Peter Biar Ajak, 35, was taken into custody last year by South Sudanese officials while boarding a flight at the capital’s Juba airport

    Poor old Africa, always blaming someone else for their misortunes, next time anyone wants to contribute to the Xmas jumper appeal :the money goes towards feeding this [email protected] children:

    A new Global Witness investigation shows how South Sudan’s state-owned oil company, the Nile Petroleum Corporation (Nilepet), has fallen under the direct control of President Salva Kiir and his inner circle, and is being used to funnel millions in oil revenues to the country’s brutal security services and ethnic militias, with limited oversight and accountability

    next time you get robbed or raped and they tell you “this is Africa” try playing the racism card, it might work……. but they bloody well know how to play it over here

       21 likes

  45. Foscari says:

    I like to look at art. But I must admit that I didn’t know
    that Edward Burne-Jones was of our three greatest artists
    because of his” Gender Fluidity.”
    The BBC is transforming our knowledge on gender. Although
    I must admit that when my son was born I decided he was
    a male because he had a penis and not a vagina. Was I wrong
    to do this?

       30 likes

  46. StewGreen says:

    Stab watch : Ewell, Surrey by “Epsom man” & “London man”
    victim mother Saher Zaidi
    . A man in his 40s from Epsom, was arrested on suspicion of murder and a man in his 50s from London

       15 likes

  47. Lucy Pevensey says:

       22 likes

  48. StewGreen says:

    Times ‘Look over there in Macedonia a fakenews website is pirating the BBC brand’
    ‘Fake news website peddles propaganda under BBC brand’
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fake-news-website-peddles-propaganda-under-bbc-brand-nqhm6pc2f

    You Storyful are #FlakeNews
    Narrative ‘It’s significant that a fakenews website uses the BBC brand’
    Really ? all it is , is a similar name bbcEdition.com and a webpage not in BBC style which uses the heading BBC in red, but not in standard BBC font
    what volume ? 3,000 Tweet shares in a month
    Doh real BBC stories are shared tens of thousands of times each hour.
    Bigger issue is that many of those real BBC news stories spread by millions have false perspective or info
    … Do a story about BBC stealth edits and stories secretly corrected a month or two later.

       13 likes

  49. G says:

    Have you noticed the dearth of information on the current state of migration and migrants in the EU? As the news media and, naturally our own far left Marxist State Broadcaster (aka, “the Worlds Most Trusted”) conspire to limit if not prohibit news of value, this source has not yet been shut down.

       17 likes

  50. StewGreen says:

    Times : Hull Polish man’s family say he is innocent in Libby case
    police still have him until Sunday morning.

       6 likes