Start the Week Open Thread 28 January 2019

This week we are likely to witness the subversion of democracy both by denial of a clear brexit and a parliamentary speaker bypassing Her Majesty’s Elected Government .

The bias of the BBC supporting this coup will show it up for the corrupt swamp it is part of .

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442 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 28 January 2019

  1. BRISSLES says:

    Heard it all now. According to one journo ” to his credit, Andy Murray has been very transparent about his level of pain, and revealed on Instagram the results of his operation………….”

    For crying out loud — to his credit he’s been very transparent ???? why do they think anyone’s interested ??? Has he now been elevated to Sainthood ? the bloke should pack up and shut up.

    Millions are experiencing pain every day of their lives and are waiting in queues for pain relieving operations, because they don’t have the benefit or private health care.

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    • Beltane says:

      Be fair Briss, he’s got to come up with valid excuses to avoid another bollocking from his lady mother.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Hopefully the emery cloth rub has done its job and Andy’s hip won’t be grating on him, he won’t be grating on Brissles and Brissles won’t be grating on us …

        …. about Andy.

        🙂 😉

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    • Navets says:

      Brissles
      I agree that few are interested in his travails but surely the BBC missed a trick in not reporting his views on Brexit.
      Do I detect sloppy journalism at the BBC? Surely not!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        You may be right Nav, but I daren’t mention the sobbing tennis player again by name, ……………

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    • TrueToo says:

      Good news indeed, but I thought a thirty-year jail term for lying was a bit harsh:

      An MP has become the first sitting politician to be jailed for 30 years after she lied to police when she was issued with a speeding ticket.

      Er… or perhaps the BBC should be rephrasing that sentence.

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      • chancygardner says:

        Just beat me to that one haha. I thought “crikey she must have been travelling at light speed!”

        (Note: Labour MP, that’s why it’s not mentioned in the title, only later in the sub-text)

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      • Kaiser says:

        “Sentencing, Mr Justice Stuart-Smith told Onasanya she had made a “disastrous decision” and that “evidence that you didn’t know what you were doing, as a qualified solicitor is incredible”.”

        so she did the crime and was texting and lied

        and yet her dumbass brother who JUST lied gets 10months and she gets 3 months

        that will be the patriarchy for you

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        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          K
          Some solicitors are more qualified than others (who are thick and “qualify” via affirmative action).
          Ditto doctors.
          Fortunately there is a simple test which can be performed to identify them.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @TT did you misread or did the BBC change the word order ?
        Now says “the first sitting politician for 30 years to be jailed ”

        Labour is mentioned in the third sentence but not in the title.

        But a recent headline ran like “UKIP councillor jailed for paedophile photos”
        Only when you got 2/3 down did you find he left the party 2 years ago and UKIP councillor bit was 4 years ago.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Here’s an example where they later changed the headline to “ex”

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        • TrueToo says:

          Stew Green,

          No, that’s definitely what they wrote – I copied it and pasted it here.

          They just did some stealth editing, as can be seen from your comment.

          Perhaps they still have a few Editors’ with a grasp of English and logical sentence construction.

          Or perhaps they read this blog.

          Been glued to parliament live streaming.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Our thoughts are with the dear lady . She will probably get a job as the shadow prisons minister ……

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  2. TrueToo says:

    Against my better judgement I have been accessing the live proceedings re the Brexit debate on and off for the last few hours. I’ve watched a committee batting the legalities of the Speaker’s weird attempt to pluck power from the govt and plonk it in the Commons (if I have that right) and I’ve just watched a woman speak for what felt like an hour on the evils of smoking.

    The Brexit debate was meant to begin at 13:00. As I was wondering when the hell it will actually start, looks like it’s starting now. Treason May is starting to speak.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      TrueToo
      you’ve got a stronger stomach than I

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      • Up2snuff says:

        TT, I was sure that while I read your post, all this distance away, I could hear your eyeballs roll up a bit in their sockets, repeat, and then your eyelids ‘clang’ shut.

        Sweet dreams – say a prayer for the UK & Brexit whether you are snoozing or wide awake.

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      • TrueToo says:

        Eddy Booth,

        Or maybe I’m just a sucker for punishment.

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  3. G.W.F. says:

    Just another facebook picture doing the rounds. But I wonder how many there are and whether the volume is noticed by the out of touch fake reporters and autocue readers in the state broadcaster

    51024594_2190173927914882_4550943739069071360_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_eui2=AeE-BlMCjhxN1OE8CNv3a_vlq7ZOaMpWRkAuXN3zXvJnpTFPO3UP-oDfqs7TC24B9K3zCmlqi8FxxvFnxsY4ZA3XfCIXAJyJm-gMYzPgCNFYbQ&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=55d420e4e9f4d7978eb59a9ac0d1508f&oe=5CEEC8A7

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    • Fred Stubber says:

      It’s very poor. He hasn’t even bothered to fold the BBC logo round the curve of the face of the tin.

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  4. LastChanceSaloon says:

    May today
    “If you want Brexit you have to vote for it.”

    We did vote for it. Get us out March 29th. Or else.

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  5. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Time for 17.4 Million jurors to vote for Brexit.
    Pro Brexit “offense” trials must result in an acquittal or a hung jury.
    Anti Brexit activity must result in a conviction or a hung jury.
    Justifiable Homicide defences must be accepted in the deaths of Anti Brexit persons.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Oh i just had to answer Maxi’s threadspoiling whataboutery and ad homs
    ..yet I note he’d ignored the next comment where GWF asked him a direct question.

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  7. Ian Rushlow says:

    ‘US facing record low temperatures’.
    That’ll be the global warming, innit?
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47047089

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  8. The General says:

    Just watching the Parliamentary debate on Amendments to Withdrawl Agreement. That bastard Bercow is calling remainers from both Labour and Conservatives so only one side of the argument is being heard.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      The General, maybe that will mean Brexiteers from Labour & the Conservatives (and I think there is one LibDem who is a Leaver) get the last word, I hope?

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  9. Cider Ed says:

    I went to see the film Stan & Ollie about Laurel & Hardy at the cinema I thought it was very good, and even though I can’t say I am a big fan of Steve Coogan to give credit where it is due he was excellent in the role of Stan Laurel. The thing that I noticed was that there was ethnic actors playing parts which I really doubt the accuracy given the time period the film was supposed to be set in. On their tour they went to Newcastle – Black girl on hotel reception, in Glasgow – Asian man in box office; in London – Oriental girl on Savoy hotel reception. I really doubt that this would have been possible, but then I watched the trailers at the end of the film and saw that it was a BBC film, which I suppose explains it.

    I don’t think using ethnic actors where it would be factually incorrect for the time period is a real spoiler, but sometimes it does just go too far and some of the credibility is lost. I think the current adaptation is of Les Miserable is very good but again the ethnic mix is very questionable, and I noticed there was a dig at the Right Wing in the latest episode, which I can’t imagine was a line written in Victor Hugo’s original story.

    If BAME actors feel under represented then perhaps BAME writers should write dramas with roles for BAME actors, before shouting racism. I guess there are a lot more BAME actors than BAME writers.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Cider, London’s mid to late 19th century population would have been mixed. First Indian MP was elected around turn of century for Finsbury Ward, if I recall correctly. It was the massive growth of the Chinese population in East London, where a lot of housing was not in good shape, together with fears about the revolutionary Russian & West European immigrants that led to restrictions being placed on inward migration.

      Cannot speak for Newcastle.

      However, bearing in mind the fuss being made these days, the most likely places that you might have seen Chinese, Indian, African and Caribbean faces would have been …..

      …. at Cambridge and Oxford Universities.

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      • Banania says:

        During a showing of Sanders of the River in an Oxford cinema, when the war canoes were shown speeding along, a wag in the audience called out “Well rowed, Balliol!”

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  10. john in cheshire says:

    I understand that the unindicted war criminal, Mr Beliar, had today been giving some audience the benefit of his wisdom and humour, particularly about our exit from the EU.

    I would love to see some reputable journalist, if there is such a thing, carry out a detailed investigation of this man. For starters, what was his bank account looked like before he became Prime Minister in 1997 and what it looked like as he handed over to the Prime Mentalist, why he hasn’t been questioned any his expenses records while he was Prime Minister and how has he acquired a large property portfolio.

    That would do for starters because it’s most unlikely he’ll ever be charged with regard to his actions relating to the Balkan war and the Iraq war, including the death of Dr David Kelly.

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    • taffman says:

      john in cheshire
      Would you believe that man ? But then would you believe half the MP’s in Parliament ? One is already heading for jail. The general public now treat them with contempt. They have never listened , they are not listening now .

      The tail is wagging the dog.

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    • Swelter says:

      John .. When the Blair and his witch came to power with their project he had, if I remember an average house in his constituency. How himself and indeed the rest of his crew like Hoon, Mandleson et al grew fabulously wealthy in such a short space of time has always been a wonder to me . Like you I question why no one has ever fully investigated these shysters.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      John.
      Imagine if Blair had come under the same intense scrutiny that Donald Trump is undergoing.
      The ‘democrats’ in the USA are wasting all their time trying to get Donald out of office instead of trying to win over the voters. How much are they being paid out of tax payers money to fund their continuous assaults on the Donald.
      Same as our rabble in the midden. They spend all their time finding ever more obscure ways to stop the democratically voted for brexit instead of trying to make the most of this glorious opportunity to have our freedom.
      How much are these traitors costing the U.K. taxpayer who fund their never ending tricks to stop Brexit.
      They make me sick.

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  11. taffman says:

    Katya – In the interest of impartiality , can we have a photograph of a man with a hat bearing the Union Jack?
    That is our country’s flag .
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47037365
    What part of OUT doesn’t Parliament understand ?

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  12. tarien says:

    Many may well know the following that I first saw back 2010, and have again seen a cover of it on Yahoo by someone who feels as most of us do.
    What will actually happen if we stay in the EU and has already been agreed.

    • Check out the Lisbon Treaty if you wish:
    • 1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
    • 2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
    • 3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
    • 4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen the move is fully cancelled but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)
    • 5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
    • 6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
    • 7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
    • 8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
    • 9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
    • 10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
    • 11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
    • 12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
    • 13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
    • 14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
    • 15: The UK loses full control of its taxation polic
    17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealth
    • 18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.; Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
    • 19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
    • 20: The UK loses control of its international policy
    • 21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
    • 22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
    • 23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
    • 24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
    • 25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
    • 26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

    • This is the future of what the youths of today think we stole from them?
    • They should be on their knees thanking us for saving them from being turned into Orwellian automatons.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Tarien, many thanks for this summary. It’s very enlightening but I wonder how many of the ignoramuses in the HoP are familiar with the EU’s plans; those Remainers who do know about these plans and still plot to thwart Brexit should really be charged with at least sedition, colluding with a foreign body and probably with treason.

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      • tarien says:

        I knew the days before the instigation of such a Dictatorship known as the European Union-never could 27 nations come together in a common cause that destroys their sovereignty, their individual cultures endemic to that nation, other than by a Dictatorship which has all the hallmraks of a National Socialism regeme such as Germany has enforced upon them 1933-1944. I believe to their eventaul detriment the present course that the EU’s policy is following will be their downfall. What Britain must do and be brave about it is to get OUT NOW-NO BREXIT DEAL – we shall survive as we did 70 odd years ago.

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        • john in cheshire says:

          I hope you don’t mind but I have copied your comment above, which summarises all the reasons for Leaving the EU, onto the Raedwald blog comments.
          This information needs a wider audience; perhaps even the far-left bbc collective will learn something. Certainly those Leavers who phone in to far-left bbc radio programmes and to LBC phone-ins might find it a useful crib note.

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    • G says:

      Tarien,
      I know, I know………
      It’s bad enough for me to watch, helpless, the death of Brexit by a thousand cuts. It appears there’s no one standing out to demand the voice of the majority of the population is adhered to. Has this been a stitch up from day one? It appears that the likes of David Davis, Daniel Hannan, Gove, Johnson et al have all disappeared up their own a**es to make the podium available to the likes of that dreadful woman Yvette Balls-Cooper and her evil Globalist/Marxist companions. The Conservatives are no better. But, at least some, like Gove, turncoats have made their transition from the illusion of supporting Leave to Remain plain in backing Treason May’s pathetic efforts to secure a, “deal”. This is surely the week when all hope of a Brexit vanishes. Whatever happens at the next elections in terms of the decimation of Lab/Con, it won’t matter because the evil that will emerge from this sell-out will outlive both parties. The only, “honour” of these people will be that they sacrificed themselves for their Globalist masters.

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      • Oaknash says:

        The death of Brexit and the death of democracy – But I promise these chinless wonders that there will be reckoning of sorts. They have sown the wind , let us hope they get to reap the whirlwind.

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      • tarien says:

        Well put G. We shall if we can’t extricate ourselves from the EU Dictatorship-if only one or more of those other26 nations currently members of the EU don’t make a move to get out. Financial stangleation is probably one reason. As Sir Winston Churchill once proclaimed the day is coming, if it has not already come when the question of the balance of power be confined to Europe alone-And although she (UK) has occupied an eminent position among European nations for ages, still, if ever Europe by her short-sightedness falls into an inferior and exhausted state, for Britain will remain an illustrious future-bound to communities of the New World and those great states which our own planning and colonising energies created.. Oh the liberals will not like the word Colonising but that is what we did and brought much to those spacific nations.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Excellent post, tarien. Brilliant list, well done.

      Heath really should have offered the UK a Referendum before he applied to join the EEC after June 1970.

      John Major was a major deceiver like Tony Blair and really should have let the UK people have a say in 1992 re the Maastricht Treaty.

      But Gordon Brown was the most treasonous of all by not allowing a Referendum, (having promised one?) on that Lisbon Treaty.

      Funny thing but when all this is over, apart from the heroes who led the Leave Campaign, the only person who will probably emerge with any credit …..

      ….. will be David Cameron.

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      • tarien says:

        Heath et al, cheated our nation in execrcising the Crown Perogative, which allowed him to pass the agreement without having to go to the House of Commons for a vote.He was a deluded creature whose fascination with the concept of the EU drew him away from his nations right to remain outside-he set in motion what we have now-long may her remain dead.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Tarien that list is FakeNews isn’t it ?
      You can’t just put up a list of extraordinary claims
      with no source given
      ..and then claim it’s all true.

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  13. pugnazious says:

    Just caught last of ‘Klopp on Brexit’…the BBC really are pushing the boundaries, and the boat right out, to squeeze as much anti-Brexit chat onto the airwaves as possibe…clearly targeting football fans with the thoughts of a popular and successful manager….BBC thinking….he’s popular, ala Attenborough, therefore people will listen to him [so much for the need for expert, scientific knowledge…Nigel Lawson will be back on the airwaves to discuss climate change any time now!] Maybe Klopp can give advice on mortgages or pensions or fitting an air compressor to a Jeep Rubicon as well? I’m all ears.

    Apparently there was a massive amount of information, lies, from one side whilst the other side remained totally silent…people only heard one side and were misled.

    The result was only 51% for Leave.

    And it consisted of 60-70% old people who lived far out in the country so completely out of touch with the young people whose futures they have now blighted.

    It is always the right-wing who want to leave the EU [no, no, no] and who wants that? They are people with no knowledge….unlike Mr Klopp who clearly is well informed and knows what he is talking about.

    The BBC’s Dan Roan said absolutely nothing to question the rant…the Dan Roan who made abusive comments on the death of Leicester’s owner.

    Prepare for plenty of Klopp quotes on Brexit coming our way! You didn’t know what you voted for so the BBC provides you with the thoughts of people with keener intellects and much deeper understanding of the world than we could ever hope to have.

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  14. gaxvil says:

    I do like the bbc World Service. It assiduously reports on our ex colonies and that apart from the, corruption, murder, war, rape, persecution, duff economies, discrimination, and rigged voting these countries are oh so much better than when we were there.
    Tonight we have Rob Watson sleazy bbc remainer, two foreign students who need jobs here and just for balance, you understand, Gina Miller millionaire elite.

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  15. Halifax says:

    The BBC reporter in Brussels might as well be wearing a EU flag she has a scarf on that’s EU blue……No bias at all

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  16. pugnazious says:

    Somehow I missed this story from 16th January…

    ”Petrol bomb’ threats sent to churches and supermarkets

    More than a dozen churches have been sent “threatening letters” bearing a West Midlands postmark, with one letter warning of a petrol bomb attack.

    West Midlands Police is investigating and said churches and supermarkets in the region and further afield had been targeted “over a period of months”.

    In one handwritten letter, threats were made to “petrol bomb” services and stab congregation members “one by one”.#

    The story links to the BBC ‘England’ page…was it ever on the frontpage? If the BBC made a song and dance about it I didn’t notice…unlike when the ‘Punish a Muslim Day’ letters came out and it was headline news on the BBC and a constant on the bulletins.

    Don’t see any reference to terrorism or hate crime…unlike the PAMD letters…

    ‘Counter-terrorism police are treating the letters as a possible hate crime.’

    Maybe the BBC just didn’t have space for all the information as their report was so short. Why would it be so short and tucked away on the England page? Maybe if we turn the Churches into Mosques and then send the same letters we can test the BBC’s reaction and level of interest.

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  17. davylars says:

    BBC 6 o’clock news. A full 15.46 seconds report on Fiona Onasanya: Peterborough MP jailed in speeding case
    I timed it with my stopwatch…

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  18. pugnazious says:

    Ah…didn’t take long, just 30 minutes to get the report onto the BBC frontpage in a prominent position….I missed the talk about racism…but of course, why not…it’s a link to Brexit isn’t it? Brexit voters were not just old and stupid but racist as well. Interesting looking at the quotes as the BBC misses out big chunks…could that be because it was so blatantly and obviously just ignorant rubbish being spouted by Klopp?

    And I think we’ve pretty much dismissed the claims of racism towards Raheem Sterling as complete bunkum.

    ‘Klopp on racism

    Football has been blighted by allegations of racist abuse in recent months, with former Liverpool midfielder Raheem Sterling speaking out on social media after suffering alleged abuse during Manchester City’s 2-0 defeat at Chelsea in December.

    This weekend, some Millwall supporters could be heard using a racist term that is derogatory to the Pakistani community during Saturday’s 3-2 FA Cup win over Everton at The Den. The FA and the Metropolitan Police are investigating.

    While Klopp believes racism in football is not as big a problem as it was in the past, he says the sport should fight back.

    “We all agree that whoever says anything racist, they are silly and they should not have the platform,” he said.

    “I don’t see that there is a massive racism problem, but it’s still there.

    “It’s not sorted, and as long as people are being abused by others, we have to work on it.

    “In football, in a team, we don’t see religion, we don’t see different colours. We only see the human being.”

    Klopp on Brexit

    Klopp has previously spoken out about the UK leaving the European Union, arguing in April 2018 that there should be another vote because “nobody has any idea how it will work”.

    With Brexit scheduled for 29 March, he said it will have a “massive impact on the young people and the cities”.

    Klopp added: “With Brexit, it looks as though no-one is an expert. Everybody is talking about it but nobody has a solution.

    “History taught us that if you are alone, you are weaker than the unit.

    “I’m 51 years old so I have never experienced a war. We are really blessed in our generation, but the past showed us that as long as strong partners are together, Europe is a much safer place.

    “We live in wonderful circumstances; yes, we have problems, but we sort them.

    “I don’t like that it is starting to split again.

    “I still hope that someone will use common sense at the end.”‘

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Brexit : Monday’s Look North did a vox pop in Grantham and couldn’t find anyone who disagreed with the idea that the town’s MP Nick Bowles should be deselected for his treachery in motioning to rule out NoDeal
    ..all 5 people stopped thought he’s crazy to rule out No Deal

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    • pugnazious says:

      Grantham should be disem-boled.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Tonight on vox pop only one person said we have to wait for a deal.
      and then when the presenter read the letters about Nick Bowles betrayal red about 8 against and then “and here’s ONE in support of Nick Bowles”

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  20. Oaknash says:

    I am afraid I am trying to give the Brexit coverage a miss. It is making me too angry that this self regarding bunch of crooks in Parliament have nearly got away with reducing one of the most clearly expressed democratic decisions for decades into a badly scripted farce.
    For once I have a non brexit BBC story to tell you, which I think says an awful lot about how low the BBC has sunk.
    Yesterday I was listening to R4 at lunchtime. I had just endured “The world at One” and something came on called “Full Circle” apparently it was an “exploration” of emotional relationships.

    As it turned out it was about two gay blokes called Joe and Jus. Joe told us how much he liked bum sex, that sometimes it was “animal” and sometimes it was “making love” and how much he liked “pushing boundaries” how happy he was in his bum sex relationship and “did he deserve to be so happy?
    And of course being mature artistic types Joe and Jus have now gravitated onto having an open relationship. Oh how very Gaurdian of them!

    As I listened to it – it really was the fascination of the horrible. Remember this tripe was on at 1.45pm . I dont particularly want to listen to straight couples talking about their sexual relationships – so why should we have this inflicted on us.
    To be honest I dont think I have ever heard such self indulgent, exhibitionist, sleaze broadcast ed. All I can think of is that it is some sort of “testing of the waters” by the Guardian reading BBC staff and if they get away with representing this sleazy couple as having a “normal relationship” then I expect next month they will cover the best positions for gay sex or similair.
    The fact that the BBC thought this was suitable to broadcast in the middle of the day made me realise how desperate the BBC are to normalise the abnormal (and no I am not referring to their sexuality). it was almost as if they were trying to dignify the sordid decadent lifestyle that these two jokers get up to.
    Funnily enough the radio was on again today and the next episode of “Full Circle” started. This time we were informed Joe and Jus have enriched their sexual relationship with a third party – His name is Jordan – at this point I hit the off switch as it was obvious where this was going.
    When I was younger I used to laugh at Mary Whitehouse as some sort of old fuddy duddy – But now I understand exactly what she was so concerned about. THE BBC these days only seem really interested in relationships if there is some sort of bizarre or sordid element involved. Conventional morality has been sacrificed in order to pander to the Cultural Marxist peccadilloes and interests of the inhabitants of Brighton and North London. I am afraid self indulgence is viewed as virtuous whilst conventional man/woman – married relationships are just boring – unless of course they are gay.

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  21. Dystopian says:

    I agree Oaknash, the bbc are a load of perverts.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    Migrant Taxi PR : both local news ITV/BBC ran cutNpasted video from SeaWatch3 a migrant-taxi ship which has brought 47 migrants to Syracuse and therefore broken the principle that rescued migrants get taken back to Libya.
    This “right wing” Italian leader is refusing to let the ship dock (presenter pauses for pantomime hiss)
    the tenuous reason for this being local news is that a Lincolnshire man and a Derbyshire man are crew on the ship
    FFS Derbyshire is not in our TV area.
    Latest : the charity took the Italian gov to the European Court : the Court did not grant the applicants’ requests to be disembarked. But said supplies must sent to them.

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  23. Dystopian says:

    327 against 39 for SNP Blackford extension of article 50. Defeated.

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  24. Dystopian says:

    Watching bbc channel it’s all just opinion pieces and discussing what they really want to happen.

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Local News is onto trans kids “head teachers say the number of kids referred to transgender advice services has gone up by 800% in the last 5 years”
    .. cut to local trans kid Cooper for long segment
    “I realised when I was 3 that I was trans”
    ..I doubt that kids have that kind of consciousness at that age.
    ” i was bullied quite a lot” (some of us non trans were”
    ” I got to the point of suicide on several occasions”

    cut to second kid Rowee
    This now looks like a PR film rather than journalism, the journo is a black lady Elaine D we’ve never seen before in our area (both trans are girls transitioned to male)
    The film vox pops kids on this issue .. Surely journos have to be careful, cos such journalism can be exploitative of the kids… there are flashes of teachers’ shoulders, but not their faces so we can see that their name lanyards hav gay friendly rainbows on them.
    “This Hessle school is a school that wears its colours with pride
    .. but when it comes to transitioning there’s concerns that some schools are not changing quickly enough” end
    FFS That was PR campaigning not journalism

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  26. Dystopian says:

    Steptoes amendment defeated.

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  27. Dystopian says:

    Grieves amendment defeated

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  28. Dystopian says:

    Yvette traitor Cooper up next.

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  29. fakenewswatcher says:

    Referendum: all about what THE PEOPLE wanted;
    Parliament have changed all that; it’s now all about what parliament wants, supported by much of the media and -needless to say- the bbc.
    If you want perversion and treachery, the beeb is your channel.

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  30. Dystopian says:

    Yvette traitor Cooper’s amendment defeated

    Ayes 298
    Noes 325
    Edit : Noes 321

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    • john in cheshire says:

      They’re going to support the Brady amendment, aren’t they?
      I wouldn’t be surprised if this was all planned; they probably decided to allow the Cooper-Balls woman to have a minor role in it all, for some obscure reason.

      Let’s hope she now crawls back into her box and fades permanently into obscurity, her androgynous haircut, earnest facial expressions and all.

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  31. Dystopian says:

    Reeves amendment defeated

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  32. Up2snuff says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47042594

    I can hear the voice of Richie Benaud: “Silly question, really.”

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  33. Non Snowflake says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47041871

    An interview with Liverpool FC manager Jurgen Klopp.

    Ostensibly about the club’s chances of winning the Premier League.

    But…..oh look! the conversation gets around to racism where footballers who earn more in a week than I do in a year are called naughty names.

    And….oh look! the conversation gets around to Brexit, and oh look! Jurgen Klopp thinks there should be a 2nd referendum.

    Presumably if he thought we should leave then they wouldn’t have interviewed him……

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  34. Dystopian says:

    BBC blatantly hoping for Spelman/Dromey amendment (rule out no deal Brexit) to go through.
    Blatant bias.

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  35. Dystopian says:

    If they stopped all this faffing a about and told the EU we are leaving on WTO rules, they would be round the table within the week.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dyst, the PM has, metaphorically, constantly had to negotiate with the EU while Remainers were tugging at her elbow on one side or t’other, nudging at her arm when she is trying to think & write, and locking the nearest door in a large room forcing her to walk through tables & chairs to get to another one and walk back down a corridor to try to enter the one opposite the first.

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  36. Dystopian says:

    In a parallel universe our national broadcaster would be proud and in support of the majority. The way this lot behave you would think remain had won the referendum! What a shower or sh1t the bbc are.

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  37. Dystopian says:

    Spelman amendment through rejects no deal but not legally binding.

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  38. Dystopian says:

    BBC having a major orgasm over this one.

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  39. Dystopian says:

    Well there goes any negotiating hand we ever had.

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  40. Dystopian says:

    So we have ruled out no deal despite the law stating we leave on 29th March?
    What next – cancel Brexit?

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    • gaxvil says:

      Lord somebody said yesterday, ‘If Brexit doesn’t go through – people will just stop bothering to vote’.
      So next General Election I guess people won’t understand what they’re voting for either – we can spend two years arguing the result and demanding a second vote. Gosh I’m sounding a bit cynical there but as the bbc often say of tin-pot countries, ‘This is a true test of democracy’. When it suits the bastards, when it suits.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dyst, probably one for the Constitutional lawyers to explain. Think the key question will be does that Spelman Amendment have any power over the previous vote of the House to leave on 29 March 2019?

      If the answer is ‘No’ and if there is not any Deal that can be passed through the House before 29th March, then we leave the EU without a deal.

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  41. Dystopian says:

    Graham Brady amendment through
    Ayes 317
    Noes 301

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Huge popcorn consumption leading to a shortage because of Brexit .

      My 4 peneth worth – unless the ReichEU changes it’s tune ( it won’t ) we re heading for the full British brexit …. with a bit of luck .

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  42. Dystopian says:

    Just watching car SOS on More4 +1. They are restoring a Morris Traveller to its former 1968 glory. The one with all the wood.

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  43. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Brexit halt to blood donor sessions amid traffic fears reversed””

    “”A move to cancel blood donor sessions because of fears Brexit will cause major traffic congestion at Channel ports has been reversed.””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-47046041

    I smell a Full English Brexit on way.

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  44. Cassandra says:

    For my sins I switched over to BBC 2 Winterwatch. The black female expert Gillian seems to have difficulty coping with what is going on, so much so, she is the only presenter to have a crib sheet in her hand which she clutched as if her life depends on it and regularly refers to it when speaking. None of the the other presenters have one. Gillian spoke about measuring the ‘length’ of trees, not the height. When her fellow presenter put a rubbish prop on his hand of a Crossbill (a type of bird), she referred to it as a ‘manicure’, instead of a mannequin.
    The BBC sacked an enthusiastic and knowledgeable presenter (Martin) so he could be replaced with this dunce?

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    • Zelazek says:

      Although I quite like Gillian Burke and her beautiful voice, I regret to say I agree with you, Cassandra. She is not a good presenter and it is clear she only got the job because of the colour of her skin. I don’t know about you but I sometimes get the feeling the other presenters don’t like her. I say this because I have noticed that they take the piss out of each other (as friends do) but they never do that with Gillian.

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  45. Up2snuff says:

    In the book of Judges, not an easy read – some considerable gore & guts and strange events in a couple of families (under the Law of Moses plus perhaps older tradition) – the Israelites are constantly forsaking God and His ways. Then they get to the point of desperation, because God has allowed them to become prisoners of their own device and under the harsh control of others.

    When the people cry out to God, He hears and he proves himself to Israel as being a God of liberation.

    Funny thing, but twenty and forty year periods and multiples thereof, often seem to be the periods of peace under a ‘Judge’ and/or periods of subjugation. While I think you have to be careful about numerology, it is a not dissimilar period that we, the UK, have been under unwise Treaties in the EEC, EC and EU..

    Worth a read. We still have a distance to go on Brexit and will need more Divine deliverances along the way.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      Than you for your review of ‘Judges’ – I tried to read it but failed . Now I know it’s tricky I’ll have another go.

      —on brexit I find it hard to understand why Brussels have already said the sell out is non negotiable even after Mrs May hasn’t even got on the Eurostar yet … maybe they have a scheme to make a full brexit so ‘unpleasant’ that no one else will try it on ….

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, using a modern translation alongside the AV or RSV can help. Then there’s a book by an Australian GP, John Hercus (long deceased), entitled ‘God is God’.

        Hercus has a style that I guess might be described as ‘unique’ and ‘Australian’. 😉

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Thanks Up – guess it’s a ‘no worries’ job. Will give it a go..

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          • Square-Eyed says:

            Dale Ralph Davis is also excellent on Judges.

            It seems to me the United Kingdom is a nation under judgement. For example, can God overlook its murder of nine million babies in the last fifty years?

            The referendum result was truly surprising and, in my view, showed He is still willing to grant a measure of mercy to us. This Brexit business may yet hold more surprises, but how important it is that we let the mercy already shown encourage us to seek first God’s kingdom and righteousness in Christ.

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  46. NISA says:

    Graham Brady being interviewed in the Central Lobby, He is more than a foot taller than the BBC female interviewer, but he does not look down. She is not in shot but he must have been looking above her head. Who decides that is the way to act? His media training or BBC requirements?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I note that Delingpole has got his tariffs ‘back to front’ just like the BBC!

      Ooops!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Thinking about the outcome of today’s parliamentary nonsense – on the upside the mandate to go back to the ReichEU will kill off more days on the Brexit countdown and get Blighty into February and less than 50 days to go .
        Remain- via the BBC – has thrown the whole Project Fear at Britain and achieved nothing .

        We don’t hear much about polls because the Remain side knows that Brexiters have strengthened in their view of the ReichEU after their disrespectful attitude toward us . But after all – they are the enemy.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Up2Snuff You mean this “According estimates in this report by Civitas, the EU would pay £12.9 billion in UK tariffs while the UK would pay around £5.2 billion in EU tariffs. So the UK could be a net beneficiary of the new arrangement by £7.7 billion.”
        Delingpole has mis-spoke but not in the way people claim

        Who pays the tariffs ? the consumer
        Who gets the tariffs ? the consumer’s government
        who are free to spend how they want, eg by cutting the consumers taxes
        So theoretically UK consumers would pay £12.9bn extra (to UK gov)
        whereas EU consumers would pay £5.2bn extra (to EU)

        Since the consumer faces higher prices they are likely to sometimes re-allocate spending by buying local or not spending.
        A lot of biz will end up losing EU customers but gain UK customers
        and since current balance is to the EU , UK manufacturers have more to gain than lose.

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        • taffman says:

          StewGreen
          Does the EU want to sell tourism, food and cars to us ? Or do we go world wide with £39 billion in the bank?
          Simples.
          Over to you maxi ………………..

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