Start the Week Open Thread 28 January 2019

This week we are likely to witness the subversion of democracy both by denial of a clear brexit and a parliamentary speaker bypassing Her Majesty’s Elected Government .

The bias of the BBC supporting this coup will show it up for the corrupt swamp it is part of .

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442 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 28 January 2019

  1. chancygardner says:

    I keep reading about the scale of Theresa May’s defeat in the House of Commons after she put her Brexit deal to the vote. The Biased Broadcasting Corporation was quick to point out that it was the worst defeat since the Stoneage. However, one thing that it didn’t draw attention to (amazingly) was that 98.8% of Labour MP’s voted against the deal and in so doing clearly exacerbated this ‘catastrophe’. May possibly underestimated Labour. She thought perhaps that they would vote as they felt, or as their electorate felt and not as instructed by the party leader. How wrong she was and no-one can convince me that 98.8% of Labour MP’s were against the deal. They were sheep and toed the party line. Let them learn a sharp lesson when the next local campaigning for election begins. People have loooong memories. Far from doom-mongers announcing the Tory party is finished, I believe that Labour have totally shot themselves in the foot here by not playing by the Queensberry rules. Let’s see what happens on Tuesday!

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      ”May possibly underestimated Labour.”
      how ?
      She knew the deal was so bad that nobody would like it , and ‘losing’ would let her waste time, booting the can down the road .

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      • chancygardner says:

        Well a couple of hundred Tory mp’s liked it so that’s hardly ‘nobody’. I don’t adhere to this notion that she is wasting time either. She may have been testing the water to see whether mp’s on both sides were independent of thought and found out that Labour mp’s were not but wasting time? Really? Come on. I expect to read that sort of claim on the Biased’s HYS but not on here.

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        • Eddy Booth says:

          No idea what HYS is, nor why people use obscuring acronyms

          When May was Home Secretary she swore ’till she was blue in the face that she was going to get net migration down to 100,000 a year, whilst in fact doing the opposite, and letting record numbers in .
          This masterclass in bullshitting was her audition for the role of
          Brexit avoiding Prime Minister.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            HYS = Have Your Say, Eddy.

            Acronyms are a product of our increasingly busy lives filled with far too much Govt., QUANGOs, NGOs and other busybodies.

            IGMC!

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  2. Guest Who says:

    As comments in reply go, how does one put this…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Nice to see these creatures meet their end . Drain the swamp .

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      GW
      Good, pity the BBC does not have competition, it would have closed decades ago.

      Buzzfeed has shown us all what exciting and properly brave journalism looks like”
      I stopped reading the rag ages ago, juvenile lefty crap.
      Only differentiated from Twitter by greater use of polysyllabic words.

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    • Kaiser says:

      learn to code

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  3. EnglandExpects says:

    At the start of the week in which the Brexit betrayal gathers pace in Parliament, the Home Secretary abandons any numerical net migration target. No doubt the BBC can really taste victory now.

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  4. G.W.F. says:

    Guardian is going on about breast ironing on the increase in the UK from Africa,

    Well frankly I don’t give a damn.
    Let them iron away, anyone who complains will be dubbed far right fascists taking advantage of something unpleasant to further their own objectives. Just like they do when TR or Ann Marie Walters speak about child rapes.. There are millions of Africans who don’t iron girls breasts, so what is all the fuss about.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jan/28/breast-ironing-british-peer-to-raise-issue-in-parliament

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    • Kaiser says:

      iron away as many tits as they want , chop up any vaginas they want

      but there must be no fixing of any of the shit we PUT UP WITH on the NHS

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      • Terminal Moraine says:

        They’ll have to start paying a proper minimum wage to get Brits into the tit-ironing industry

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      • TheRebelUK says:

        Why stop at ironing tits, why not introduce to their advanced culture a new tradition. Teach them to iron their entire bodies, then when they thin enough, teach them how to put themselves in a one way envelope back to the country they invaded us from. As the bbbc doesn’t give little or no air time to these backwards traditions from different cultures surely they wouldn’t mention the bodies folded into envelopes.

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  5. Wink1 says:

    Twitter Itv News Meridian are running a poll for Brexit . An hour ago No Deal was in the lead now they are lagging behind a Second Referendum . Please vote if possible.

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  6. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Although they are meaningless, there’s another petition to sign.
    It’s about the bbc bias against Brexit.
    As with all the others it will be ignored by the ‘honourable members’ who, if they bother to turn up, will go through the motions pretending that they actually care.

    I tried to post the link but my Facebook page came on instead.
    I’m sure someone on here can do the honours.
    It is titled:

    Public inquiry into the bias in the BBC

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  7. Dover Sentry says:

    Quote on video from the Education Secretary Damian Hinds MP : “Yes we will” be leaving on March 29th.

    https://order-order.com/

    An unequivocal “yes we will” from the Education Secretary to the question of whether the UK is leaving on 29th March…

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  8. Nibor says:

    Scare Story #3458924523564286 Brexit bad .

    If we crash out without a deal , BBC will be unable to get soft loans from the EU .

    The BBC reports that without the cash that’s circulated back to them from taxpayers , more pensioners will lose their over 75 total rebate and goons will have to visit to threaten them .
    A BBC spokesperson who had transgendered surgery last week said to maintain high quality scare stories there was a need to fund the funding gap , which is in the Sierra mountains . Another Beeb spokesman corrected this to say the funding gap isn’t a geographical location but the difference between what they think they should get out of the proletariat and what normal people think .
    Another BBC spokes animal pointed out that people didn’t know what they were voting for . ” Brexiteers never pointed out on the side of a bus that old people would die of hypothermia because they would have to spend their Winter Fuel Allowance on a TV licence instead ” . ” Bastards ” .
    Another BBC spokesperson ( with corporation medical insurance but having gender realignment on the NHS ) said the corporation would need to make some cuts . ” We might have to close down Salford and move back down to London , just when we discovered it’s not bad in the North after all. They’ve got a gay area ” .
    A senior BBC spokeswoman who was born a man said ” we realise it might be difficult for the over 75s to pay , so we are considering spreading the cost . They can hand over the deeds to their house and we’ ll collect on their demise .”
    A super senior BBC spokesman who has always been male because he missed choosing his gender at six said ” the BBC has some new and exciting scare stories coming up . A No Deal that is successful would be a big disappointment .!”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes and the angel of death will visit anyone who hasn’t got a tv licence whether they watch the state broadcaster or not …. so that’s me screwed then .

      Sorry – I forgot the plague of locust , frogs and the rivers turning red .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The Guardian has evolved a habit of not allowing comments on brexit reports . Today it reports that Labour support for Evette cooper balls traitorous attempt to subvert brexit on Tuesday is looking shaky . It may be disinformation but let’s hope .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, go to church to pray for Brexit and avoid the Easter rush!

        You might avoid the plague of locusts, frogs and the rivers turning red as well.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Nibor,

      Well done, that’s hilarious!

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  9. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Just for fun 😉

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  10. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO today (R4 @1pm) was amazing, not just because of the massive scare piece transported from some UK supermarkets to us by Simon Jack, referred to by Stew Green – appropriately – above.

    The interview with Baroness Eliza Manningham Remain-Buller was very revealing. She came on like Simon to take part in Project Fear no. something or other, version. after the one before today. Any kind of Brexit but especially a No-Deal one would harm the UK’s security. London Anti-terror Policeman Neil Basu was praised for his statement last week. Unfortunately the Baroness had not listened to (or understood?) what he said. The terror suspects were already here. We didn’t need the intel that being in the EU provides. We need to monitor and stop them because they are here and known to us.

    Ah, well the European Arrest Warrant is so useful. We will lose that if we Brexit. Spain mentioned, also Italy. One example where Italy provided a super-fast extradition of one person. Didn’t mention the months it took for the Belgians to get a terrorist back from France last year. Or the months – or was it years – it took to extradite Brit criminals from Spain back to UK. Or the intel failures of criminals coming to the UK from other Member States who then go on to commit crimes here. No mention either of the terrorists WHO WERE ON POLICE WATCH LISTS on the European mainland who committed terrorist acts there.

    To think this woman used to run MI5! It makes me shudder that one so apparently dim could rise to the top of that job.

    Never mind, Baronness Eliza Manningham Remain-Buller is no longer in that job. She is troughing it at a Uni somewhere as well as the House of Lords. The Baronness changed tack. “Brexit will be bad for scientific research. It will prevent PhD students coming to the UK because they are not paid £30,000.”

    True. But what about the research they do when here? If it is with the Philosophy Prof, Jennifer Saul, at Sheffield, then I doubt it has much value. Or if it is the equivalent of the group at Uni of York, Toronto and Madison-Wisconsin, who decided from research that if the globe warms then ice will not form on lakes and people will not be able to skate on them. Yes. Honest! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47029482 It is on the BBC, so it must be true, eh, Covington High?

    And anyway, are not employers in the UK CONSTANTLY saying we need to increase the knowledge and skills of our UK young people for our future workforce. So why import PhD students? Use our own!

    It is scary that someone in the House of Lords could be so unaware of the real world. Or was she just there on TWatO to scare? Sarah hinted that the Baroness might be inclined toward Remain but she did not directly question her on that.

    I wonder why?

    Well, the 1pm News and TWatO was a bit upside down today, so Sarah Montague was probably disoriented. The BBC could not decide whether Shackleton explored the Arctic or Antarctic as they relay news of the search for his lost ship.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      At the moment, Emails talk about British University Administrators preventing PhD students and other scientists with PhD’s coming to the UK because they might talk about Planetary Atmospheric Physics on University property. British Universities not being a safe space for free speech any more.

      They may talk about the German scientist Gerhard Gerlich, who proved directly the “Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics“. Saying that the CO2 warming formula violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. But on the other hand, we do have evidence for thermodynamic warming, but without a formula until Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller introduced the “Unified Theory of Climate” formula for the thermodynamic Greenhouse Effect in 2011. This is why all concluded computer model predictions using the fake CO2 warming formula have been proved false by the Hiatus/Pause/Peak in temperatures this Century. This is also why attempts by Astronomers to calibrate CO2 warming on Mars and Venus have all failed, in fact it is thought that the finding that the temperature on Venus at the altitude that has identical pressure to that on the Earths surface, at 1.176 times the Earths average surface temperature, lead to working out the formula for Thermodynamic warming, this coinciding with a radiating temperature for Venus of 1.176 times that of the Earth, proving that a Carbon Dioxide Atmosphere and a Nitrogen Atmosphere have similar warming properties. This new formula not only explains the Greenhouse Effect on all known Planetary Atmospheres, but also explains the Greenhouse Effect on Earth at the time of the Dinosaurs, providing the solution to why the Earths average surface temperature was much higher, but Solar irradiance being weaker, thus correlating with higher atmospheric pressure. I have heard that the Atmospheric pressure must have been at least double, with air pressure inside the bubbles trapped in Amber reaching a high of 10 Bar, much of the Earths atmosphere being lost to space since this time. This also resolves two other anomalies, which are how a dinosaur’s heart could pump blood 23 feet upwards and how a giant flying Quetzalcoatlus had the energy to stay airborne, something that biology and aerodynamics says is not possible in today’s atmosphere.

      If some American scientist with a PhD in Astronomy, Meteorology or Atmospheric Physics has told Donald Trump about this, then that would explain why he calls CO2 warming a hoax. Piers has probably also told his thick brother about this, but with zero effect on the Labour leaders brain.

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      • Halifax says:

        What happened to the hole in the ozone layer ? Has it been mended ?

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        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          Halifax.
          If it’s getting bigger it will be because of Brexit.
          If it’s getting smaller it will be despite Brexit.

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        • Old Goat says:

          It’s still there. It has always been there, and it always will be, to a greater or lesser extent. Of no real significance, other than to alarmists and people who can make mega-bucks from scare stories.

          Oh, and WE didn’t put it there, either.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        RP “At the moment, Emails talk about British University Administrators preventing PhD students and other scientists with PhD’s coming to the UK because they might talk about Planetary Atmospheric Physics on University property. British Universities not being a safe space for free speech any more.”

        Gave me a chuckle. So true. Probably. Ta.

        On a not totally unconnected subject of ice-skating, it has always puzzled me that HMG & Local Authorities tell me that we are going to fry because of CO2 emissions and they then give the go ahead for all these artificial ice rinks in cities & towns around the UK, not just for winter use but sometimes ALL YEAR ROUND. What is the CO2 output of those likely to be?

        Considerable. Substantial. Colossal. Massive.

        Somewhere on that scale.

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  11. popeye says:

    I caught a Sky interview earlier this evening by Mark Austen with Helen Dickinson of the BRC who was saying that delays in Calais would cause horrendous shortages of fresh food. To his credit (and my surprise) Austen continually pressed her on the situation repeatedly saying that the Mayor of Calais has said there would be no delays. Compare that with the BBBC Ten O’clock news: another spokesman for the BRC said exactly the same thing about delays at Calais. This being the BBC it went entirely unchallenged. Remainers supporting Remainers!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      It’s a bit like the nonsense food shortages we are being promised / threatened with .

      Does anyone really think that supermarkets which source their stuff from across the planet aren’t going to respond to market needs ?

      Likewise non ReichEU countries happy to meet consumer demand should enemy EU states play tough to make a point . And we won’t be bound by market restrictions imposed by the Reich .

      Even remainers must see what stupid scare story that is .

      And freedom is worth more than a shortage of multicoloured peppers and sundried tomatoes

      ( I wrote the last line as maxi / troll bait naughty eh?)

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        I just bought 3 peppers in a pack,
        Red and orange ones were from Israel , the green from Morocco

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        • StewGreen says:

          @Eddy are you sure different coloured peppers came from different locations ?

          AFAIK Green peppers are red peppers that are harvested early.

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          • Eddy Booth says:

            I think some varieties stay green a lot longer, maybe that’s what morocco specialists in, and is included to ensure 3 single colours

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Thing that amuses me is that the BBC constantly refer to Aldi and Lidl as German supermarkets but go look at their goods. Much is sourced locally and they seem to delight in plastering the Union Flag on as much as possible.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Good luck telling French farmers they can no longer sell their produce to us.

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        • Dystopian says:

          Apparently we need to secure a deal as we don’t want to be at the mercy of Macron should he “decide on a whim not to allow goods through France”. Ok so they expect us to believe the rest of Europe will allow him to prevent them selling their stuff to us!

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    • davylars says:

      Ah well, BBC news reports Lettuces, tomatoes and soft fruit will be affected.
      Who cares, as Ozzy Osbourne once famously retorted. ‘Salad tastes like shite’

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Or as someone posted on a BBC HYS when some early Brexit food scares were being ‘promoted’:

        ‘I don’t like lettuce and salad. It is rabbit food. If food becomes scarce, I’ll go hunt me some rabbits and eat them when they are full of salad.’

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  12. Guest Who says:

    At least he is not here, I guess.

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  13. Dover Sentry says:

    Potential Project Fear:-

    “Parachute Regiment Disbands Itself Due To Brexit Fears”

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  14. imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

    I like to listen to a few podcasts while I’m drifting off to sleep (rather than the radio – I avoid Radio 4 and The World Service for obvious reasons). Now and again I’d visit BBC History Extra to see what was on offer, there was a time not so long ago when they would still put something vaguely interesting on amongst all the dross.

    Now look at it, pretty much diversity and ‘Famous Wimmin in History’ crap. Even outside of those topics they’ll often manage to shoehorn in some left wing commentary.

    https://www.historyextra.com/article-type/podcast/

    I don’t think I’ll be bothering with it anymore.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Try waking up at 3:15am There’ll be sure to be SJW BS on World Service
      then 4 hours of it also on Radio 5 Live ..as they jump from one SJW item to another.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    New movie exposes the FakeNews MSM
    Hoaxed Movie Trailer by Mike Cernovich
    and features all the well known rightie voices like Jordan P, Lauren S etc.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Daily Mail : Marshall Law BS
    \\ political editor James Tapsfield is having a go at ramping up resentment about Brexit with an article claiming martial Law and The Civil Contingencies Act will be invoked – The Army will be called out etc., etc.

    MPs might have to work their holidays! – outrage!

    If they carry on like that I can see the readership numbers plummeting – what a tosspot.

    If the “mandarins” are indeed planning a clampdown – the reasons for that should be laid out – on the evidence of the last 2 years there seem to be plenty of them who’d reverse Brexit in the wink of an eye,//
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636785/Britain-impose-MARTIAL-LAW-avoid-chaos-streets-no-deal-Brexit.html

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    • Banania says:

      The authorities are said to be worried about disturbance if there is “no deal”. Shouldn’t they be more worried about disturbance if there is no Brexit?

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  17. StewGreen says:

    TVNZ : Global Warming causes obesity

    I’ve lived in NZ, who do you think is obese ?
    If you go to a Maori or Pacific Islander neighborhood you’ll notice they are packed with fried chicken takeaway shops.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    European elections : Facebook will be opening a large anti-FakeNews operation in Dublin

    The same Facebook who pays Snopes and pastes in the factcheck that the Native American never claimed to be a Vietnam Vet
    … despite loads of evidence and video showing he did.

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  19. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Government supports Brady amendment on Ireland border”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47034701
    Just look at the Flag Waving Propaganda. You pay your Telly Tax for this.

    Meanwhile Mrs Chamberlain will be heading to Europe to get her next orders.

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    • G says:

      Taff,
      “Meanwhile Mrs Chamberlain will be heading to Europe to get her next orders.” Via Soros to gather her master’s instructions en route…………..

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  20. StewGreen says:

    EU and family allowance, whichvthe stupid UK pays to kids living in poorer countries.
    The Austrian gov sets what theyvpay according to how much cheaper the home country is compared to Austria
    “EU launches action against Austria over child benefits policy”
    https://www.rt.com/newsline/449621-eu-austria-child-benefits/

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  21. StewGreen says:

    In Nasty Trumpland
    \\ petrol $1.84 at the pump in some places (about 37p a litre)
    – I wonder why the BBC stopped their worldwide listings of fuel prices //

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  22. Celtic_Mist says:

    Suffering from insomnia, just noticed latest from BBC

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47037365

    What does this mean?

    //A group of Tory Eurosceptics have been working with former Remain supporting MPs on planning for the event of no-deal Brexit, it has emerged.//

    //Speaker John Bercow is to decide which amendments are put forward and voting will take place from 19:00 GMT//

    I suspect it means that the establishment is planning to extend Article 50.

    I didn’t used to be amenable to conspiracy theories but …

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Celtic – on my read even if the Berkow mafia try to stop A50 the ReichEU wont extend it because there is no clear reason and because of the Elections at the end of May .

      I think it will turn into virtue signalling with the likes of soubry grieve and cooper balls leading the sobbing .

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  23. lojolondon says:

    The BBC claims to be covering the violent protests in Paris – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cpzg2d6re0lt/france-yellow-vest-protests – but notice the headlines and the angle of the articles on this page –
    15 Jan – Macrons Grand Debate
    18 Jan – Shock at protester injuries
    24 Jan – Yellow Jackets election bid
    27 Jan – Counter-protests to Yellow Jackets

    Actual protests and demands have not been reported since 12 January

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  24. Guest Who says:

    Bbc morning email and… guess what makes the daily cut? Yes… an impartial bbc review of…. Donald Trump. Again.

    ***

    Trump tracker

    Donald Trump has been in office for two years, but what has he achieved at the half-way point of his presidency? We’re tracking his progress on his agenda and how it’s received by the American public and the wider world. And there are interesting – and surprising – comparisons with some of his predecessors. Check it out.

    ***

    Was there ever an Obama Observer?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest
      I think it’s a issue of beeboid self identity . They think they still matter when all they are really doing is talking to their own kind

      The mistake is perpetuated because unfortunately in some less developed country the BBC still has a residue of prestige – which is fortunately wearing off .
      I think if an objective view is taken of what President Trump promises pre election and what he has actually done it will be quite favourable – whether one agrees with his style or not .

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    • JimS says:

      Didn’t that coloured chappie promise on Day One to close Gitmo? Apparently eight years wasn’t enough. I don’t remember World Peace breaking out either.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Cold, Katty, cold,

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Not the BBC, but as they like ‘could’ news, maybe…

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    • Guest Who says:

      Guess what, Newsnight found another convert…

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    • Guest Who says:

      Looks like they all got the same press release.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      So long as I can buy tasteless strawberries in January

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    • JimS says:

      Back in 1975 they told us that food prices would go up as a result of being in the EU and they were right.

      So how many deaths did that cause over the last 43 years?

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  27. StewGreen says:

    R Humberside :8:53am ‘And here we have caller Bruce from Russia”
    Bruce “No Deal is the way to go” ..”but Russian people are split on that”
    Beeboid “but but supermarkets say the shelves could likely run empty”
    Bruce laughing ‘ You BBC last year kept campaigning , BUY LOCAL, now you’re doing scaremongering about we’ll starve if we don’t have imported’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06xtjlh

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  28. Guest Who says:

    Ex BBC star presenter in blocking hypocrisy. There is a suprise.

    Jeremy Vine is proud, mind.

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  29. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://order-order.com/
    Latest “Malthouse Compromise.”
    Which Guido states the ERG will support.
    As I understand this is NOT BREXIT.

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  30. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2019-01-29 09:39 Guardian
    Brexit: EU dismisses Tory compromise plan as unworkable
    I suspect that the EU loves this plan and will make it work.
    Because it is not BREXIT.
    IDS “Voters want parliament to make a decision”
    No, we want you to implement OUR decision.

    Future historians will regard today as the start of the second civil war.

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  31. Ian Rushlow says:

    A senior BBC manager apologises…
    “I am a senior BBC commissioning manager (Eton, Balliol) but have chosen to remain anonymous. I am writing to apologise over the inclusion of this article on the BBC website – ‘A photographer’s Trans-Siberian World Cup journey’. When I gave the go-ahead for this piece, I was under the impression that it was about the transgender community and the never-ending discrimination and daily hate that they face in society, of which we hear absolutely nothing. I considered that this article may, in some small way, help highlight the issues and provide some balance.
    Had I realised that it was about a train making its way across Russia and showing that it is a scenic country with friendly people living ordinary lives, I would have done no such thing. I therefore apologise profusely.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-47008329

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  32. Guest Who says:

    Today is proving a rich seam.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      GW, you have reminded me of the thing I forgot to put in my post yesterday evening about Baroness Eliza Remain-Buller – see further up this Thread.

      We are really heading toward a Nazi or Communist Soviet form of life where you listen to the news and then something is perhaps said, just a few words, or two items run together and contrast or conflict, and it inadvertently sheds light on what the system is up to.

      So it was with Eliza Remain-Buller. Sarah, in her inertview, did ask about security problems over the NI Border which have been the reason for so much kerfuffle since the last week or so before the EU Referendum up until now. Sarah asked something like “What about the Good Friday Agreement?” and Eliza said quietly and quickly (and probably unintentionally?) “Oh, that has never worked.” Jonathan Powell, Tony Blair’s Chief of Staff, was lionised by the BBC on R4 recently for his part in the GFA. Now we know how good that Agreement was.

      So there you have it. From the Head of MI5 during the Troubles and the Good Friday Agreement and afterward: IT HAS NEVER WORKED. The thing that so much fuss was made about by Tony Blair and John Major and then many others since the Referendum result was known, it has never worked.

      Maybe David Vance and others in Northern Ireland knew that? Some of us here, elsewhere in the UK, suspected that it might have had a few breaches.

      Now someone with authority and knowledge from the inside has said of the Good Friday Agreement – if I heard Baroness Eliza and remembered it correctly – “It has never worked.”

      Remainers who are exploiting the GFA to keep the UK in the EU, you should hang your heads in shame.

      And give up your cause now!

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  33. pugnazious says:

    Cultural appropriation 15th century style…..Leonardo Da Vinci’s drawing of ‘cornrows’?…..

    9100534-6641737-image-m-6_1548709896313.jpg

    This from an honest black comentator unlike the Afua Hirschs of this world who seem more intent on weaponising ‘blackness’ and exploiting black people for her own ends…..and the BBC is more than happy to accomodate her and her divisive rantings without challenge….

    ‘One account claims that dreadlocks originated in India (unlike most who cite Egypt as their birth place) with the dreadlocked diety Shiva and his followers. It is likely that this is the spirituality origin of dreadlocks in Indian culture. However, the first archeological proof of people wearing dreadlocks came from Egypt where mummies have been recovered with their dreadlocks still in tact.

    Regardless of their origin, dreadlocks have been worn by nearly every culture at some point in time or another. Roman accounts stated that the Celts wore their hair ‘like snakes’. The Germanic tribes and Vikings were also known to wear their hair in dreadlocks. Dreadlocks have been worn by the monks of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, the Nazarites of Judiasm, Qalandri’s Sufi’s, the Sadhu’s of Hinduism, and the Dervishes of Islam, and many more! There are even strong suggestions that many early Christians wore dreadlocks; most notably Sampson who was said to have seven locks of hair which gave him his inhuman strength.’

    Oh and what? Remember, we must respect ‘Dreads’ as unique black cultural artifacts that are closely tied to their religion….if you ain’t black or a Rasta you can’t wear Dreads….

    Hmmm…not only are Dreads not ‘Black’ the religion isn’t even uniquely black…it’s a cultural appropriated blend of other religions…

    ‘At the beginning of the Industrial Revolution The Rastafari Movement began gaining popularity among the Black Jamaican population. The Rastafari draws their beliefs from three main sources; the Old Testament, African tribal culture, and Hindu tribal culture. Before it got the name ‘Rastafari’ its followers called themselves ‘dreads’, signifying their ‘dread’ and respect for God. In an attempt to emulate the Nazarites and Hindu holymen their beliefs were modeled after, they began to wear their hair in matted styles and this is when the term ‘dreadlocks’ came into common use. ‘

    Afua Hirsch and Co want a separation of the races, her talk of Black pride and purity of culture and race smacks more of Adolf Hitler than a celebration of diversity. Why does the BBC indulge her and her kind and give them licence to peddle this dangerous rhetoric that is meant to inflame issues and stoke racial tensions?

    Yesterday Today introduced a story about the opera ‘Porgy and Bess’….they told us the authors ahd insisted that only black singers could play the parts and this was a problem in Britain…because of course we have race relations act and equality?…er..no. The problem was that there just aren’t enough black opera singers in Britain…and naturally this was due to, according to both the guests, ‘endemic racism’ in Britain…in the institutions, the police, the schools, in government, in business, in the Arts and in society generally. Naturally BBC presenter was fully on-board with that narrative. It’s a completely false narrative, one that the BBC pushes constantly that blacks people are the vitims of whites and that they will never get on unless drastic action is taken against white people.

    When you read that Islamists become ‘Islamists’ and take up arms because they were told Muslims are always the victims of the West you have to wonder why the BBC continues to portray black people in Britain as oppressed victims and what they think will happen if they keep prressing those buttons. We all know of course as the BBC did exactly the same with Islam and the Middle East..it is still pressing those buttons especially when it comes to Israel….ramping up the anti-Israel rhetoric portraying Israelis as war criminals and Palestinians as victims….the BBC feeds terrorist narratives knowing full well the consequences…just as it fed the Black activists’ narrative in the US about white police officers ‘executing’ ‘unarmed’ black men which resulted in many murders of police officers. The BBC also fed a similar narrative here….the 2011 riots came out of the narrative that Mark Duggan was ‘executed’ or ‘assassinated’ by the police…the BBC allowing his mother and oters onto the airwaves to push that narrative unchecked.

    The BBC causes civil breakdown, violence and racial tensions with its reckless and often deliberate promotion of dangerously sensationalist and provocative narratives based upon race or religion that are designed to whip up anger, resentment and conflict.

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    • Old Goat says:

      All going generally to plan, then.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      Once one realises the race industry is very competitive so these types need to get a ‘ competing niche / edge .. the whole thing becomes something of a joke .

      Mind you the idiot talking about bomber command was a bit near to the edge because his relatives would probably been back in the “yard”cutting cane for a living when these heroic kids were doing their great work .

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      ” her talk of Black pride and purity of culture”, hope it wasn’t in English.

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  34. Celtic_Mist says:

    BiasedBBC obviously feeling chipper today with looming Brexit delay, enough to let Soper do a hit piece on Trump mocking the idea of a wall.

    Sopel asked by what principle will America be defined and quoted the inscription on the statue of Liberty, once tweeted by Comey –

    You get the picture

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    • pugnazious says:

      Comey, and Sopel, confusing immigration with mass, uncontrolled immigration and also confusing Trump’s desire to control immigration with a narrative that this means no immigration at all….same narrative we get here with Brexit as Remainers claim Britain is drawing up the drawbridge and turning into an island fortress with no links whatsoever to the world when of course Brexit is about the opposite, going out into the world and reconnecting not smothered and stifled by the EU straitjacket.

      Sopel completely misleads readers with this nonsense…

      ‘Is America a country that will be defined by the Statue of Liberty and the poem etched on it, “give me your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”, ask high-minded Democrats.

      Or will America be a country defined by a giant wall designed to keep those huddled masses from Central America out. That’s the principle. ‘

      The wall is not meant to keep everyone out as Sopel implies just the completely illegal entry of massive numbers of people who decide they want to live in the US and of course no doubt expect to be cared for and provided for by the US and its taxpayers.

      More importantly Sopel doesn’t admit that Clinton etc voted for a ‘wall’ and there is already 700 miles of ‘wall’ and that Clinton stated

      ‘“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in,” Clinton said “and I do think that you have to control your borders.”

      “As president, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration, including border security and fixing our broken system.”’

      Funny how the BBC is not keen to quote her on that.

      I note this tweet from Sopel…the usual snearing, negative attack on Trump…

      ‘“You got the invitation You got the right address You need some medication? The answer’s always yes…” We’re here for a rare ⁦@WhiteHouse⁩ Briefing #LALALAND’

      So Sopel needs medication to deal with Trump and the Trump Whitehouse is ‘lalaland’. Only medication Sopel needs is a truth serum….Sopel who didn’t mention the BBC’s own part in the poisonous attack on the white, Catholic boys who were smeared by the left-wing media as he gave us an apparent ‘mea culpa’ the other day, not for the BBC of course, telling us there may have been an injustice done to the boys [by the black protestors not the native american elder statesman of course, failing to mention at all the abuse and intimidation the native americans also targeted at the boys…Sople told us the boy put himself ‘right in the face of the native america….just not true….the NA came up to the boy and began drumming right in his face].

      However as the piece was heavily slanted against the boys and still painted them as guilty, Sopel claiming they had been mauled ‘but perhaps jusitifiably’, you can see Sopel is shamelessly unprincipled, dishonest and quite prepared to throw some youngsters to the fire because they support Trump and no doubt also because they are against abortion….the BBC being a campaigner for abortion rights.

      DB from this site challenged Sopel about the original BBC hitjob on the boys…Sopel replied that as he didn’t write it he had no need to apologise. He’s the BBC’s North American editor….he must have overall control over what goes out and ultimately takes responsibility for it. Clearly not ‘slopey shouldered’ Sopel….the man who stabbed his own colleague, Humphrys, in the back over the equal pay joke.

      Weasel.

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      • G says:

        Pug,
        Slight correction: ‘Evil Weasel’.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        So Sopey still hasn’t apologised for that Covington High School FakeNews perpetrated by the BBC under his Editorship then?

        Will the TOADY team constantly ask him if he is going to resign?

        Jus’ askin’ ……

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  35. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    To all of these mps who think the electorate is too stupid to vote on leaving the eu (like eee-vet who has a constituency that voted 70% to leave but she knows better)

    If we are too thick to understand Brexit then by the same reasoning we must be too thick to understand when voting in general elections.
    Do we all know the intricacies of interest rates, foreign aid, civil law, pensions and thousands of other reasons to vote a particular way. I would say we know as much about the eu as we do in local and general elections. Usually a couple of big reasons is why we vote for a certain party such as the nhs or tax. Same with leaving the eu where sovereignty and immigration plus some other main reasons were the driving force behind the vote to leave.

    If they cannot accept our instruction to leave the eu because we are idiots who know nothing then the same holds true for general elections and therefore no government (or mp) is legitimate.
    All of parliament needs to be dismissed until every person in the U.K. is educated enough to know everything about everything and then deliver a vote which will be fully informed.

    Of course this will never happen because they are happy enough to accept results under their terms but not when it doesn’t suit them such as the eu referendum.
    A right slimy lot who wouldn’t be missed.

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  36. NISA says:

    I spent all day yesterday worrying about possible starvation after we crash out. It was only on the 10pm News that I discovered that it was lettuce, tomatoes & out of season soft fruits that I would have to do without. So no threat to ketchup & jam. So only a concern for Remainers who will not be able to garnish their dishes.

       23 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      I saw a lettuce once – it was in me Maccy dee

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        That wasn’t lettuce, it was the burger flipper’s reconstituted mucous.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Peter
          Thank you – I was thinking about having one …. apparently a lot the the desperate amendments by red Tories are running up against the ReichEU wall – which is now based in Brussels .

          The mind games which have been played to fix ‘ doomsday’ into even the most simply minded MP ( Nicky Morgan) is something to behold .

          I’ve just gone out to my garden to plant lettuce- they might be worth a few bob in April .

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    • BRISSLES says:

      If landscape gardeners can force flowers of all seasons to be ‘show’ ready for the Chelsea flower show, then I’m sure an enterprising ‘grower’ will produce enough lettuce/cues and tomatoes to keep us fed through the winter !!

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Down a long road in Kent there is Thanet Earth, not that far from the Chunnel and the Calais:Dover ferry port. Nudge nudge, wink wink.

        Using hydroponics and LED lighting they force all sorts of out of season produce.

        May be time for a business expansion plan, methinks!

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  37. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Before we all die of starvation on 30th. March due to lack of lettuces I think our ‘right honourables’ should ask the 90% of Countries not in the eu how they manage to feed their populations.

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  38. Peter Grimes says:

    My weekend bilberries and raspberries, former a market stall purchase, latter from M&S, came from South Africa and Morocco respectively. My green beans invariably come from Kenya. All in tip top condition.

    I’m amazed that they survive the lorry transit up from deepest Africa to Dover via Calais so well. That is how they get here and why Brexit is such a threat, isn’t it?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Peter, McDonalds signed that letter yesterday along with some supermarkets.

      A strange thing imv for them to do. As I understand it, McDs fly their produce from the US every day so that it is as fresh as possible. Which is why I hate their buns, far too fresh and soft & soggy for me. Buns & loaves of bread always seem better to me when a few days old and can take a good old toasting.

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      • StewGreen says:

        I doubt very much that McDonald’s fly anything in
        AFAIK they use local ingredients.
        There’s a Mcain factory here that supplies some chips.

        ah they use US onions
        \\ Where does McDonald’s source the ingredients for its hamburgers?
        Our delicious beef patty is made using 100% British and Irish beef, and supplied to us by one of our beef patty suppliers in *Scunthorpe * or Carroll’s Cross. Our buns are baked by one of our bakery product suppliers in either Heywood near Manchester, Dunstable in Bedfordshire or Banbury in Oxfordshire. The mustard and ketchup we use are made by one of our sauce suppliers in Lancashire, and the cheese slice is made by a supplier in Coleraine, Northern Ireland.
        The dill pickles are sourced from Turkey and the onions are from the United States.”
        https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/18713-where-does-mcdonalds-source-the-ingredients-for-its-hamburgers.html

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        • StewGreen says:

          Of course I don’t see any EU ingredients on that list.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Stew, could be that McDonalds have made a policy change. Am going back a few years so I could be out of date. Could be the various taxes on air travel have had an impact on them. Certainly, they seem to be fairly inflation proof on some of their items so ruthlessly cutting other costs may keep prices of key burger meals & other mainstay items as low as possible.

          But it certainly used to be their policy to fly food stuffs everywhere. Even across the globe. I ate in the first McD’s in the ‘Communist World’ (in Hungary in 1990) and also remember when the Moscow restaurant opened although haven’t been there. No way they could have sourced the stuff locally back then.

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  39. BRISSLES says:

    PG, and clearly there are cargo ships en-route from the West of Africa to Margate, (as the stowaways proved when they boarded a ship just before Xmas, and held the crew captive), and therefore bypassing Europe altogether !!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brissles, there was the English end of a collective of farmers in Ghana on Radio 4 a few years ago when that volcano in Iceland got a bit uppity and resulted in a major cancellation of northern hemisphere air traffic. These small producers of fruit & veg in Ghana had got together with some English help to support them and were chartering a freight airliner every so often to get their produce to the UK. The arrangement was working well until the ash cloud interrupted things a bit.

         7 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        I remember that Up2, I was stuck in Paris that weekend, and didn’t Gary Lineker spend thousands chartering every mode of transport to get him back from the Canaries in time for his tv programme ?

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  40. BRISSLES says:

    Lord preserve us ! a ‘no-news’ day as we are regaled with photos of Andy (sob sob) Murray in his hospital bed. And Sky, once again, is taking to the road around the country to talk to joe public about their thoughts on Brexit.
    Who the f…k around their conference table believes we are remotely interested in the opinion of someone in High Wycombe or Peterlee ???

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  41. pugnazious says:

    LOL….all white people look alike to ‘people of colour’…so racist that they just can’t be bothered to take the time to really see what a white person looks like.

    The sanctimonious little prig that is Nihal has got the uber friendly and pleasant Ben Fogle riled up by claiming Fogle was mean about his dog….

    ”You will be hearing from my lawyers’: Ben Fogle threatens to sue BBC Five Live’s Nihal Arthanayake for libel in astonishing bust-up over on-air claim that adventurer branded radio host’s Staffie dog ‘dangerous’
    TV star Ben Fogle is engaged in an acrimonious Twitter spat and has threatened to sue the BBC and one of its radio presenters after a DJ called Mr Fogle a ‘wrong ‘un’ live on air over a row about dangerous dogs which Mr Fogle insists is a case of mistaken identity.
    ‘My wife is in Queen’s Park, right? And she’s with our kids, and our staffie.

    ‘And this fella, has his kid, and goes up to his kid, and says: “Don’t go near that dog. They’re nasty dogs. Or, they’re dangerous dogs.”

    ‘My wife is there, with our kids, and with the dog. And he says it so loudly that she can hear him saying it.

    ‘And from that day on I’ve just been like “nah, that guy is a wrong’un’’

    ‘I’m not going to tell you it was Ben Fogle.’

    Mr Arthanayake’s co-host then broke the news that Mr Fogle was due to present the ITV run-down, to which he replied: ‘You’re kidding me. He was so rude.

    ‘My wife came back to me and said, “this guy!”. My wife was very upset.’

    Unfortunately Fogle insists it wasn’t him…Nihal says it happened nine years ago….as Fogle’s kids are 8 and 6 how did he tell them to stay away from the dog?

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    Ha…a comment on the story confirms what I think every time I hear Nihal…

    ‘This Nihal chap brings a whole new meaning to sycophantic grovelling with his guests on five live. Even Doddy never made me laugh so much as he does.’

    That is of course unless you are a critic of Islam or mass immigration or any other ‘right-wing’ issue…then you get the sharp tone and sanctimonious rebukes and attempts to score points against you.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, an extremely good reason for staying away from Twitter. I admire those on here who monitor the same for relevant BBC/Brexit content & comment and am grateful to them. They are heroes & made of sterner stuff than Snuffy!

      Being on BBC Blogs and HYSs is bad enough for me. Have just had a quick squint at Laura Part-time’s Blog to see if that is open to comment on a significant Parliamentary day. It is not.

         10 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Pug what we are seeing is BBC FakeNews being constructed.
      .. Nihal’s wife says “Ben Fogle just shouted at our dog”
      .. Nihal wanting the claim to be true is willing to falsely accuse people, just like his lot falsely accuse Tommy.

      All his wife knows is the guy looked like Fogle
      Nihal must realise that dozens of men look like Fogle
      Saying that is WAS Fogle not a lookalike is an extraordinary claim with no extraordinary evidence.
      But to the Beeboid mindset proper evidence is not necessary, you just run with the extraordinary claim and shout “racist” at anyone who challenges you.

      Nihal must have a lot of privilege if he thinks that rules on level of evidence dont apply to him.

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      • StewGreen says:

        It’s literally hours since Nihal last admitted he’s “rash”

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  42. BRISSLES says:

    I rushed up to Richard Chamberlain and kissed him on the cheek – in 1963, in Woolworths. Well, …… I THOUGHT it was Dr. Kildare ! FFS !

       13 likes

    • Beltane says:

      I was in Woolworths in 1963 when some bloke rushed up and kissed me on the cheek. I nearly hit him with my stethoscope.

         9 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        Lol ! oh shut up ! I was in love with RC in my early teens, and then discovered years later that he batted for the other side 🙁

           11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      “On sentencing the woman to 12 years for sexual assault, the judge mentioned the woman first admitted to her crime, on an internet forum”

         8 likes

  43. digg says:

    I’m sure I am not the only one who witnessed the BBC TV News interview from some balcony outside the commons this morning. Whilst Mason carried out the interview someone below was swinging a remain placard on the end of an obviously very high pole and swinging it between Mason and the interviewee each time they spoke. My observations.

    1. How did the protestor know he would need a very long pole?
    2. How did they co-ordinate the position of the placard behind each speaker in sync?

    A pre-agreed plan? A coincidence?

    I think the smug sniggering of the presenters Dan and Louise back at the studio at the end of the interview spoke volumes!

       29 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg
      I saw that and as a result I am now a 100% remainer. I fully agree with the sage trolls who the bbc send on here to try to disrupt the movement and think that nice Mr Corbyn will make a great PM . And stop being nasty to aunty bbc …

         18 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The Today programme on Facebook is illustrating their running order with the image of a double decker with, by sheer coincidence, a remain look waving a placard as an EU flag is draped across its rear, whilst ‘we voted leave signs are all around it. Pure coincidence.

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  44. gaxvil says:

    Son came came from school yesterday and project bullshit is finding targets :- ‘We won’t be able to travel abroad and will have to holiday in the UK only.’
    ‘If some country attacks us we’ll get no help from Europe.’
    And a boy got detention for saying, ‘Brexit’.
    Quite instructive on bbc WS – an Italian ‘comedian’ says, “Italy is getting very ‘Greek’ these days – like we don’t do the right things with taxpayers, money.’
    I was waiting for it and it was squeezed in at the end, rather forced and self consciously, ‘ Ah Brexit, it’s so bad – like something Italy would dream up.’
    BTW the alleged comedian now lives in London.

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  45. Eddy Booth says:

    ”Jack Shepherd: Speedboat death ‘not a crime’ in Georgia
    Mariam Kublashvili says the charge he was convicted of does not apply under Georgian law.
    She added that Shepherd “preferred” to serve his sentence in Georgia.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47039077
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    BBC seem to love the little bitch Shepherd, not asking how he can fund an expensive lawyer in Georgia, but is deemed eligible for legal aid in UK, reported 93K already and rising for appeal,
    Nor why they keep reporting as fact, that Charlotte Brown was
    steering/ piloting the boat, when they only have the weasel Shepherd’s statement to prove that..

       9 likes

    • Oldspeaker says:

      Been thinking that too, brings to mind the part in Godfather when Michael bolts after killing a police officer and the subsequent gangster drip feed to the press.

         3 likes

  46. Guest Who says:

    In other news…

    Spat!

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/01/crossed-wires.html

    ps: The BBC does not ‘need’ to make podcasts. It is just further empire building too big to fail.

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/01/im-believer.html

    I had imagined ‘belief’ was mainly in the ECU trying to shut down factual complaints, but it seems it also gets used to celebrate the spirit of Davos with global jollies.

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/01/vegan-1.html

    They do like their veg and two veg, the BBC.

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  47. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC TV Politics Live at noon.

    A long discussion which did not once mention that voters had democratically voted to Leave and that Deal/No Deal was not an option. A typical BBC anti-Brexit stance.

    The whole discussion was about how to reword May’s fraudulent Brexit Document and also how to extend the process.

    The EU are not going to accept any changes.

    Therefore…..

    We Leave. (without a deal).

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  48. Dystopian says:

    Who shot Jill Dando?

    She knew her killer;
    “Forensic study indicated that Dando had been shot by a bullet from a 9 mm calibre semi-automatic pistol, with the gun pressed against her head at the moment of the shot. Richard Hughes, her next door neighbour, heard a surprised cry from Dando “like someone greeting a friend” but heard no gunshot.”

    Silencer? Assassination by someone she recognised and was surprised to see.

    What did she know?

    Over to you extremist bbc…..

       15 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Richard D Hall does an interesting analysis of Jill’s murder, which you can find on youtube.
      His work on many subjects is not everyone’s cup of tea, but well worth a gander. Also check out his work on St Jo’s killing.
      Hard for me to accept much of the Dando published detail, like why on earth would a pro assasin not have pushed her inside the opened door and done it, or why leave hoping one single bullet was enough…but its a strange case for sure.

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      • Navets says:

        D_C
        I will have a look at R Hall’s analysis, thanks for highlighting it, his analysis of the Mc.Cann saga was something I found very thought provoking.
        I seem to remember a BBC report on Barry George, having been cleared of her murder, repeating the idea made elsewhere that Jill Dando was the victim of a Serbian assassin angered by Nato’s war in Kosovo. A position very easy to accept by the BBC who, for several years, aired many dramas that just happened to depict brutal assassins as Serbs.
        How the BBC loves its bogeymen.

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  49. Cider Ed says:

    Interesting article on the BBC news website about the acquittal of Asia Biby the Pakistani Christian who was charged with blasphemy. In the paragraph below the BBC brand an Islamic group far right because they hate all liberal freedoms, a group that have completely opposing views to a group like the EDL who the BBC also brands as far right. I suppose the BBC considers anyone who disagrees with their views as being far right.

    Meanwhile, the court ruling will test the resolve of the far right Tehrik-e-Labbaik Pakistan group, which has conducted a violent anti-blasphemy campaign in the past, though many of its leaders have been under arrest since October when the court first acquitted Asia Bibi

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  50. BRISSLES says:

    Heard it all now. According to one journo ” to his credit, Andy Murray has been very transparent about his level of pain, and revealed on Instagram the results of his operation………….”

    For crying out loud — to his credit he’s been very transparent ???? why do they think anyone’s interested ??? Has he now been elevated to Sainthood ? the bloke should pack up and shut up.

    Millions are experiencing pain every day of their lives and are waiting in queues for pain relieving operations, because they don’t have the benefit or private health care.

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    • Beltane says:

      Be fair Briss, he’s got to come up with valid excuses to avoid another bollocking from his lady mother.

         8 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Hopefully the emery cloth rub has done its job and Andy’s hip won’t be grating on him, he won’t be grating on Brissles and Brissles won’t be grating on us …

        …. about Andy.

        🙂 😉

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    • Navets says:

      Brissles
      I agree that few are interested in his travails but surely the BBC missed a trick in not reporting his views on Brexit.
      Do I detect sloppy journalism at the BBC? Surely not!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        You may be right Nav, but I daren’t mention the sobbing tennis player again by name, ……………

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