Weekend Open Thread 15 December 2018

I’m getting to the stage where events are changing so quickly that any example of Far Left BBC bias is surpassed by the next one . So I’ll stick with brevity

 

and avoid being nebulous …

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345 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 15 December 2018

  1. Guest Who says:

    Now, what other bbc boxes are ticked? Ah, yes…

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  2. Guest Who says:

    The BBC, with Diane Abbott on numbers.

    So, careful these days if out on the lash Bradford way.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11103542/Iranians-sentenced-to-91-lashes-for-Pharrell-Happy-video.html

       15 likes

  3. Guest Who says:

    “BBC editorial integrity means the BBC only finds time or space for what the BBC really likes”.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2018/12/also-very-bbc.html

    Whilst politicians are pretty much remedial kindergarteners too, they are at least elected. Why a letter from air head luvvies is accorded any significance is beyond me.

    Poll, petitions, marches and your agent sticking your name on a round robin still do not compare with walking to a booth to vote.

       25 likes

  4. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Anti-radicalisation chief: Wales ‘far right hunting ground’ “”

    “”……has grown as a movement since the Brexit referendum and the election of Donald Trump.””

    “”The Islamist problem has never been that big. If Muslims had really bought into that, there would have been bombs going off every day””

    “The far right has been emboldened by the rise of UKIP””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46557076

    BBC Agenda:-

    Trump + Brexit + UKIP = Bad

    Islam = Good

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      DS
      “The Islamist problem has never been that big. If Muslims had really bought into that, there would have been bombs going off every day”

      Shut the BBC for that line alone. Nothing else required.

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      • Kaiser says:

        do these people ever wonder why the word sikhaphobia, hinduphobia, buddaphobia dont exist

           28 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Yep the old title with apostrophe’d quote

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  5. StewGreen says:

    BBC please express your opinion in the usual way, on who ‘s face should be on the new bank note

       12 likes

    • Zelazek says:

      Mary Seacole and Noor Inayat Khan are not in the same class as giants like Alexander Graham Bell, Alan Turing and Stephen Hawking. These BAMEs are very minor figures whose contributions to British science, although not negligible, are relatively insignificant. Affirmative action on who features on our banknotes? No way.

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        Seacole was in the Crimea on business selling supplies.

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        • Zelazek says:

          Dover Sentry – You’re right. And I was being too kind when I implied that this nurse and this wireless operator had made some kind of contribution to science. Which I believe is the criterion for being featured on the £50 banknote.

             18 likes

          • LastChanceSaloon says:

            Z
            “Which I believe is the criterion for being featured on the £50 banknote.”

            Really. I thought the intention is to maximise anti-white propaganda.

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    • StewGreen says:

      So they’re looking for a dead and a historical BAME character, that was born before the 20th century and died before 20thC also (only Churchill died after then )
      …I’d say means it has to be a Jewish politician, lawyer or writer

      There really haven’t been many faces and that was the pattern
      So I’d say you’d expect to see BAME after 2060 or something.
      Current :
      All notes Elizabeth II (only person born in 20thC)
      £5 2016 Winston Churchill (only person who lived in 20thC)
      £10 Jane Austen
      £20 Adam Smith
      £20 from 2020 J. M. W. Turner
      £50 Watt & Boulton

      Defunct :
      10s /50p Sir Walter Raleigh (never issued)
      £1 Sir Isaac Newton
      £5 Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
      £10 Florence Nightingale
      £20 William Shakespeare
      £50 Sir Christopher Wren
      £5 George Stephenson
      £10 Charles Dickens
      £20 Michael Faraday
      £20 Sir Edward Elgar
      £50 Sir John Houblon
      £5 Elizabeth Fry
      £10 Charles Darwin

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      • StewGreen says:

        Yes there may have been 1 or 2 BAME English historical characters, but I’m guessing that would be out of 10 or 20 thousand
        … so BAME should make up 1 in 10 thousand faces on bank notes.

        Topic is just coming up after 2pm on LBC

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        • StewGreen says:

          Racebaiter Maajid was slobbering, totally oblivious to the context I explained.
          He loved the caller’s idea of Stephen Lawrence being the chosen GREAT SCIENTIST to appear on the note.

          He chastised a Ugandan caller, who said she didn’t come here to change the culture.
          “Listen I was born here, this is my country”

          Then ten minutes later
          “After the guy committed suicide they called me in, cos I am from a Pakistani background as well”
          So one moment MN is claiming to be British and next moment he’s claiming to be British-Pakistani
          .. Having his cake and eating it.

          He makes the claim that he is as British as you
          ..but then says he’s more Pakistani as you , cos he has Pakistani ancestry .
          That means he’ is saying he is more than equal
          Surely the person who has grown up with generations of British family does have a higher awareness of British history than Maajid.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Most business don’t like 50’s due to fraud.
      So how about a Nigerian, to inspire confidence!

         18 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      BoE announce they will have two faces on each side of the banknote
      One side will be Mrs May’s 2 faces
      The other will Nick Clegg’s two faces etc.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      I know a bloke who is an ethnic minority in Luton
      images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBLEyvXMPY7ykaTXGc62aIEc0Oz7uP3tNy1T6N9wSoL3FKqHsqqQ
      Tommy Robinson’s face on the £50 pound note
      https://www.change.org/p/the-public-tommy-robinson-s-face-on-the-50-pound-note

      temp email from here
      https://www.tempmailaddress.com/

         13 likes

  6. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, the bbc goes to the real brains out there…

       13 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      ”who is shining a light for women’s rights today? ”
      In immigrant’s cases, their husband, as he is the one who fills in the postal ballot.

         10 likes

  7. JamesArthur says:

    What is wrong with BBC Breakfast presenters? Can they not understand storm Deirdre is pronounce Deer Dree not bloody Deer Dra..

       26 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      It should be pronounced “Typical winter Atlantic Depression”, and left at that…

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I get irritated with the pronunciation of Jose Mourinho’s name. For the life of me I cannot see an ‘e’ in his name, but constantly its pronounced….. Mourineeeeeeho.

      Also can someone explain why journalists say ” over to our Ireland/Spain/Finland/ correspondent” instead of “over to our correspondent in Ireland/Spain/Finland”. I assume my English Language teacher back in the 50’s and 60’s knew what she was talking about, and the grammar I currently cringe at when listening goes totally against all I was taught.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Even tho languages use the same Latin alphabet,
        they don’t have the same pronunciation of the letter combinations.
        …inho ..sounds “inyu”, cos in Portuguese a “h” is pronounced “y” after an “n”, and the final “o” gets clipped to sound like the “o” in who

        The “ou” is like the ‘o’ in ‘flow’

        So it sounds : m-O-r-in-yu

        In Brazil they probably clip it even shorter
        ——————————

        Secondly can’t you just use a noun as an adjective ?
        “Race riot” “police force” “top hat” “Scunthorpe bus”
        https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/nouns-adjective.htm

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        • Up2snuff says:

          They make make it longer in Brazil, too, Stew. For example Wilsinho (Wilson Fittipaldi) and Rubinho (Rubens Barrichello). Incidentally, you’d be a good one to ask as it may be some time before I see Brazilian friends/Brit friends who have lived there: is it chello for Rubens or kello?

          Ol’ Murray Walker was put right on this by Emersinho(!) once but I cannot remember what he said.

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      • TrickCyclist says:

        Brissles,
        I can remember ITV’s plankish Mark Austin (this was some years ago) reading out a news story about the footballer Didier Drogba. Except that he pronounced it “Dee Dee Ay Drog-Bar,” all syllables emphasised. I remember wondering, do these highly-paid newsreaders need to have their autocues written out phonetically?

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        • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

          Why are all foreign footballers called ‘da – ved’ ie Silva not David?
          They never say ‘ now over to the yellow vest protests in Pah-ree’

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  8. Burgsey says:

    Have just been watching Click on BBC which had some “interesting” articles on women and technology, all of which had side storeys I could elaborate on, but there is not enough time! However the first article struck me in relation to the suffrugette movement. I will preface what I am about to say by agreeing it was an outrage that women did not have a vote. However the article did appear to effectively condone criminal damage for a cause you believe in. However the biggie for me was the emphasis on making sure your voice is heard and listened to. Mmm…didnt something like that happen two years ago and isn’t the BBC not following its own advocacy??! Usual rules!

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  9. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Provisional.
    The Post Brexit, “at last we are free, no thanks to the Labour Party, or the other Labour Party formerly known as the Conservative and Unionist party”, vote.
    Here are the questions for your consideration.
    The real Brexit Government will, with alacrity, carry out your wishes.

    Section A.
    Should it be compulsory for all European states to have an Independence day celebrating the permanent dissolution of the EU?
    1. Yes.
    2. No, compulsion should be avoided.
    3. No, but every day, at dawn and dusk, the former symbol of slavery, also known as the EU flag, should be ceremonially burnt at the Menin Gate and all other locations where memorials have been raised recording the sacrifices of our ancestors.

    To be continued.

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  10. Stevie m says:

    Just heard on sky news, jo johnston said, if there was a 2nd referendum there should be three options
    1 leave on Mays deal
    2 leave on wto rules
    3 remain.
    Split the leave vote and the remainers get what they want.

       35 likes

    • Burgsey says:

      ..and what if the vote was….?!!
      1. 32%
      2. 33%
      3. 32%

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Burgsey, the Remainers wanting a second Referendum were suggesting a threshold for a winning vote, not just a majority. One lady suggested a 60% level, I think, which could actually work against them.

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    • David R says:

      “It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” Joseph Stalin.

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  11. LastChanceSaloon says:

    The People’s vote.
    Theresa May will carry out your wishes at 400,000 kilometres per second.
    Should the result of the Referendum held 2016-06-23 be ignored?
    a) Yes.
    or
    b) Yes.

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  12. pugnazious says:

    @Anon
    ‘When I was growing up the BBC represented my country. Now it has morphed into some sort of globalist, cultural-relativist monstrosity obsessed with Trump, race, trannies and ‘diversity’ whilst ignoring its impact. The BBC has played a central role in the decline of UK society.’

    We probably all realise by now that the BBC is a stonewalling, monolithic, unaccountable ‘rogue’ broadcaster but David Sedgwick in his book, ‘BBC: Brainwashing Britain?: How and why the BBC controls your mind’, gives us the astonishing statistic that of 214,864 complaints received in 2016/2017 only 36 were upheld in their entirety. In addition many of those that are actually upheld will be inconsequential, trivial and innocuous complaints that don’t in any way impact upon the BBC’s ‘business as normal’ narratives.

    Book of the Week next week? Guarantee there will be a short and snippy reply dismissing it all as rubbish from up high in the BBC.

       49 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      p – “214,864 complaints received in 2016/2017 only 36 were upheld”
      So the BBC got the balance about right.

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      • gb123 says:

        In 2002 Saddam Hussein got 100% of the vote. Does that mean he got it about right as well? Or does it mean his henchmen were responsible for selection and counting the votes in order to obtain the required result? I think the BBC complaints procedure mirrors the latter.

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  13. Panda says:

    The Marr show today with two Labour remain and one Tory leave guest thus proving once more that ‘the BBC get it about right’ as far as balance is concerned.

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    • Tabs says:

      Now they are showing a recap of the past year showing past episodes:
      100% of the actors interviewed had a dislike of Trump.
      90% of singers/musicians shown are black

      thus proving once more that ‘the BBC get it about right’ as far as balance is concerned.

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      • Tabs says:

        Marr is ending the show with 11 more black singers and 1 black pianist.

        That brings the total percentage of black singers/musicians on the show for the year up from 90% to 99%. Let’s hope the BBC can get that up to 100% for 2019.

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        • Anne says:

          It’s not just on the BBC, it seems to be everywhere.

          The 2018 Royal Variety Performance included cellist Sheku Kanneh-Mason. In case anyone this side of the Andes hasn’t already heard, he was winner of the 2016 BBC Young Musician.

          Apparently the London Palladium is setting itself up in competition with the Wigmore Hall.

          No mention anywhere of very successful French horn player Ben Goldscheider, who appeared to many to be the obvious winner on a notoriously difficult and treacherous instrument.

          Only this morning, the appalling SKY featured a theatre producer doing something or other with Shakespeare for “kids”. The “kids” appeared to be disproportionately black. If I were an immigrant of SE Asian origin, I would find this constant marginalisation extremely irritating. It’s like they don’t exist.

          It’s getting worse and I’m sick of it. It’s also arguably patronising to black people.

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  14. pugnazious says:

    The BBC is not reporting on Brexit it is attempting to drive the narrative…in a pro-EU, pro-Remain direction.

    How many times this week have you heard a BBC presenter state that the only options now possible are either a ‘no-deal’ or a second referendum..knowing of course that Parliament will not allow a no-deal…in other words, according to the BBC, the only possible option in reality is a second referendum.

    And who is to blame? Curiously, according to the BBC, it is a very small bunch of hardline, extremist saboteurs who are opposing May’s deal…the Brexiteers of course. It is astounding how the BBC can report almost total, across the board opposition to May’s deal and yet ascribe the blame solely to the Brexiteers. Labour won’t vote for it because they want an election in their own, not the country’s, interests, and even most hardline Remainers oppose the deal [for the same reasons Brexiteers do…vassalage and all that], Jo Johnstone is a constant on the BBC demanding a second referendum and yet…it is Brexiteers who are sabotaging May’s deal.

    Here’s Kuenssberg portioning out the blame as the EU says it can’t do anymore until the UK has certainty….and why doesn’t the UK have certainty about its plans? It’s those dastardly Brexiteers not the Remainers who want an election or a second referendum that create the uncertainty…

    ‘Yes, the prime minister was given a promise from the EU that they will do a trade deal after Brexit as quickly as they possibly can so, in theory, the controversial backstop will never be required.

    In political practice, right now, there is no way that alone will calm the fever that has taken hold of so many of the prime minister’s MPs – more than a hundred of whom wanted her to quit this week – swathes of whom would never vote for her Brexit compromise as things stand.

    The irony – it’s the behaviour of those who are demanding more, that held back European leaders from giving more.

    There was a sense among European leaders that whatever the prime minister had been granted might be immediately torn up and dismissed by Brexiteers.

    Or torn up by Labour or torn up by the SNP or torn up by hardline Remainers.

    Love the irony…ask for more and it means the EU won’t give more claiming they don’t know what you want. …So it’s definitely not the EU who are being obstructive and untrustworthy…just the extremist Brexiteers.

    And the BBC.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      p – “in theory, the controversial backstop will never be required”

      The backstop is there specifically to be used against the UK to the maximum effect possible. It will be used, no doubt whatsoever.

      Sorry NoBrainers but you, and the EU, have zero credibility.

      Due to NoBrainers and the EU having a perfect, gold medal winning, 100% record, of lying 100% of the time.

      We trust you to be untrustworthy.

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    • Beltane says:

      In many respects the BBC is a microcosm of the EU. Both are entirely dependent on funding extorted by menace. Both are aware of the pressure this funding is under and both are severely frightened of the consequences. Both react with bombast, self-promotion and arrogance.
      Both are on the point of collapse.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    “It’s the media’s fault” “that Muslim women lack confidence in dealing with healthcare”
    “The media are responsible for creating a climate of fear about Muslims, so Muslim women are afraid of making a fuss so don’t ask for a female dictor when they want one etc.”
    Shaima Hassan was on Radio Leeds 8:50am, and I guess will be popping up all over the place.
    #1 The press are don’t create fear of Islamic culture, so much as people rooted in Islamic culture doing very bad things.
    #2 The press do not hype up such stories. No they actually play them down, whilst at the same time whipping up hysteria against their pet hates like TR, or so called “sexist/racist” tweets etc.
    The host covered the item in a perfunctory way, but could have pushed back and asked about if married Muslim women have a choice in whether to have a child, when they don’t want one etc.
    Or face intense pressure about delivering a son etc.
    I don’t think lack of confidence in SOME Muslim women comes from newspapers, but rather from Islamic cultural practices themselves ..”don’t question the big man”

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  16. StewGreen says:

    On a similar topic
    Quote : \\ Muslim doctors & nurses are allowed to opt out of strict NHS dress codes introduced to prevent spreading deadly diseases.
    Female Muslim staff are permitted to cover their arms.
    Long sleeves are blamed for spreading bacteria, leading to superbug deaths //
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1577426/Female-Muslim-medics-disobey-hygiene-rules.html

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  17. Beltane says:

    Figures and EU are always subject to scrutiny, but I wonder if that £39billion is such a coincidence?
    What we pay, according to most opinions, seems to vary between £9 and £11bi per annum – but what if the real figure is £13? Three times £13 is £39, surprise, surprise. So take that over three years and there’s our fees paid and the collapse of the Euro prevented.
    And in three years time, what with ‘negotiations’ having been spun out while vital aspects like the Irish border are sorted, we will have realised what a terrible mistake it has been…
    Unfortunately, during the period, Macron has been replaced by Le Pen, Wilders runs Holland, the AfD run Germany, the Greek, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian economies have still collapsed despite being backed by city finance, Putin heads the EU Commission and Jeremy Corbyn is now president of the RSPCA, re-named RepublicanSPCA.

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    • Beltane says:

      Good News! The penny has dropped re the disparity on our EU contribution. We will automatically lose the rebate demanded by Thatcher, hence our payments will rise to £13 billion pa. Simples!

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  18. Doublethinker says:

    Reflections on Brexit.

    It does look increasingly likely that Brexit will be denied to the majority who voted for it by the Remain elite. British democracy has been trampled in the mud. But over the past two and half years some things mhave occurred to me that I really didn’t consider in 2016.
    I vote Leave because I believed in Sovereignty of nation states , in Democracy which the EU certainly does not provide , and in our British identity, I preferred living in a British culture. I think that most Leavers voted for the same things. But that British culture is being swamped by non EU migrants at an alarming rate.
    I now realise that many prominent Leave politicians are very Keen on links to Asia and Africa and perfectly willing to accept uncontrolled migration from there as the price of increased trade. Infact they seem to be more Globalist than many Remainers. If I had to choose between a Britain with ever more Asian and African links and one with ever more European links and would unhesitatingly choose the latter. If the EU acted as a protectionist block which very strictly limited migration from outside itself I would vote for it even at the expense of our sovereignty and our democracy. I have some hope that the likes of Salvini and Orban will be joined by other ‘populist’ leaders eg Wilders and Le Pen and can overcome the Globallists currently in charge of the EU. If they could do that then we would be far better off in the EU than outside it. In the UK I can see no prospect of any such leaders emerging. If we are to be saved from the horror of Islam it be be by those outside our country. Our plight is desperate, it may already be too late , within a decade or two it certainly will be.

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    • cromwell says:

      My son has suggested that if they insist on another vote then as the people voted to leave and it must be respected then we have two options only and that either accept current deal or go to no deal on wto terms that would make remainers upset so what !

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      • cromwell says:

        As the figures for a no deal petition are going up like petrol pump figures by the minute I wonder if there is some minion sat in downing street watching them I can’t believe they wouldn’t be watching them and feeling very uncomfortable

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Except current deal locks us in forever

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    • theisland says:

      Dt
      I agree to a large extent but I think the EU want us a) for our money and b) as a dumping ground for their riff raff – so I want out. For Britain seems to be the only party saying it would freeze migration (for 5 years) and on that basis alone would probably get my vote.
      We need politicians who will only agree trade deals that exclude unlimited migration from the other country involved. I don’t see why that has to be a condition. Work and tourist visas are another matter.

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        TheIsland
        It’s very true that trade deals need not involve a reciprocal free movement of people, unless your in the EU. We can thrive outside the EU and watch them collapse.
        As for For Britain, its highly unlikely they could field enough candidates to make a dent, let alone get enough support to have anyone elected. That, I’m afraid is because our ‘first past the post’ system makes it impossible for minorities to get elected.
        There’s also the problem of For Britain standing against other patriots like UKIP, Britain First, FLA, etc.
        In the recent Lewisham by election AMW stood against David Kurten. Somebody tell me wheres the sense in that?
        ( their combined votes by the way totalled almost sod all).
        If you asked the man in the street which was which out of :
        For Britain and Britain First, they’d probably have no idea. In fact I almost cocked up while writing this, and Britain First leadership have been almost confined into a permanent prison by the bastards in authority. The same c^*#s who had TR moved to Onley jail, in the hope he’d get killed by the muzzies.

        No, while I hate the bastards as much as you, I firmly believe only UKIP will make a difference, just as long as Farridge is kept away from it.
        AMW is needed back in UKIP, as is TR as a full member, and it can thrive again.

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        • theisland says:

          DC
          Yes – if only they could/would all co-operate!!
          Is it time for a military coup yet?

             9 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      the only hope I can see is some other european nations falling into massive open sectarian violence before we do

      Quite what the politicians reaction would be then god only knows

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Zimmers at Dawn.

       7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      The tweet Neil was replying to
      @Gary_Bainbridge tweeted
      \\ News International. Associated Newspapers.
      75% of the Conservative Party.
      Northern & Shell. //

      … How can he take anyone seriously who asserts that ” 75% of the Conservative Party ESTABLISHMENT ” supported Proper Brexit ?

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Blooming Xmas repeats…

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2018/12/guest-post-bbcs-official-festive-fifty.html

    I endorse this message. FWIW.

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  21. Fedup2 says:

    The world this weekend

    Lord Chris Patten has an extended chat with mr Mardell on a number of occasions he called fellow Tory part members maouists, extremists and rodents for wanting a full brexit .

    Got to say I don’t normally listen to mardell but i was genuinely shock by his language about fellow politicians . He attacked IDS as a hipocrite and said the PM shouldn’t have said bad things about Blair .

    Shocking . Mardell just sat back .

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    • Guest Who says:

      Hope the studio wall buttresses coped.

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    • cromwell says:

      Just listened to him what a disgraceful b*****d the gloves are off between remainers and leavers in the tory party he would be very happy for may to get together with blair. Major etc all the losers !!

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    • DickMart says:

      Yes, I heard this today. Mardell doing sterling work as Duty Officer for Project Fear and “People’s Vote”, an astonishing performance even by his standards of egregious bias. No attempt to challenge Lord Patten spouting ad hominems, and especially the absurd claim that Tory Brexiteers are Maoists.

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        DM
        Missed the interview.
        In some ways it is a good sign.
        Any reasoned arguments, any pie charts?
        Did Patten’s voice go up an octave? It usually does when he is lying.
        That’s all they have. Repetition of long discredited lies about the benign EU, and insults.

        Keep the unflappable Mogg on screen as much as possible, to contrast with with the desperate, manic EUSSRophiles

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        • vesnadog says:

          “Missed the interview”

          And for the likes of the BBC/MSM who survive on knowing what the viewing listening figs are for each company while hard working/busy-doing-better-things with their time citizens of the UK don’t even bother watching those kind of one sided debates/interviews! The BBC can try their best to tell us otherwise but only their most dedicated fans actually hear the opinions of such small numbers of celebrity/ex-MPs/Authors/Pop Stars (laugh)/high-divers/ex-football stars/game show hosts/second home owners in the south of france/spain/switzerland etc etc …. traitors, everyone of them!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, MM is Chief (or at least a very Senior) BBC Anti-Brexit/Pro-Remain Campaigner and Propagandist.

         7 likes

  22. G.W.F. says:

    These celebrities who care about refugees and the like are all BBC beauties. They are invited to put up or shut up

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  23. Luckyharry69 says:

    You guys are firing on all cylinders today…keep it up!…too many articles to take in to be honest……

    Just to say I also listened to Any Questions from Chichester…it was a joke.Sussex actually voted quite significantly to leave the EU…apart from Brighton of course……somehow the BBC get a totally remain audience?….they keep doing this….it does deserve credit for their production team…..bravo…….
    …….and I have just listened to Patten’s interview with my mouth wide open….
    I think he said “you cant put lipstick on a pig…it is still a pig” in relation to the Conservative Brexiteers (and in fact all of us “Extremists”who voted Leave?……)
    So 17.5 million of us seem to be aligned to some far right Fascist agenda?……we are ALL deluded,stupid and our vote shouldnt count?……
    So its ‘gloves off’ time perhaps?…the PEOPLE V PARLIAMENT?….
    choose your ‘weapon’?……….

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    • vesnadog says:

      Lucky.

      “somehow the BBC get a totally remain audience?….”

      Every time the BBC does this it (BBC) should be gently reminded that “these kind of openly bias tricks” are gonna turn round and bite them horribly!

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    • Navets says:

      Luckyharry69
      Interesting comment about lipstick and pigs, to which I say, a turd cannot be polished and no matter how much it is coated in glitter, it is still a turd, this particular one has a name, Patten.

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  24. Anne says:

    If it hasn’t already been mentioned, I’d urge people out there to listen to this. Contains quite a few facts that I wasn’t aware of (not for the most part about Brexit):

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Very good, Anne. Thanks for putting that up. Education was once the preserve of the Christian church in the UK, initially through the CofE and then via the non-Conformists as well. Amazing to realise how thoroughly the Hard/Far-Left have got in ‘under the radar’ (think Lord Pearson used that expression, too) and have been controlling education in the UK for the time of our membership of the EU.

      Now there’s a coincidence. Purely a coincidence, I don’t think that could have been orchestrated by the EEC. But all the same, 45 years of indoctrination of teachers who are just leaving college to start work now, means that there’s another 45 years of it ahead of us!

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  25. LastChanceSaloon says:

    BBC Politics 2018-12-16
    “Theresa May condemns Tony Blair’s new Brexit vote call”

    May and Blair in the same headline.
    She is trying to divert attention to Blair so she can pull another pro EU rabbit out of her pants.

    I still believe Blair is the worst traitor the UK has produced.
    But May is still trying hard for the #1 position.

    148000+

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  26. Up2snuff says:

    Just after the latest loony utterances from the IPCC about farming, the BBC were all in favour of getting its viewers, listeners and web-site users to give up meat and become vegan.

    Suddenly, they are all concerned this weekend about the effect of a No-Deal Brexit on our meat industry. They wheeled a lamb farmer on to Any Answers yesterday and more farmers onto The World This Weekend (both on R4). I didn’t hear the item on TWTW but I assume it was fear-mongering over the tariffs that might be applied to UK meat products.

    The BBC does not understand tariffs. They appear to constantly assume they are paid by the exporting country and not the importing country.

    They are consistently inconsistent in their hypocrisies.

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  27. Lucy Pevensey says:

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    • Fedup2 says:

      There would be some poetry in the granting of a second referendum with no ‘ remain ‘ option – just WTO rules or the sellout . I think the lying a. Campbell would have another breakdown .

      The old line about ‘ careful what you wish for ‘

      Naturally the remainers and bbc woukd want ‘ remain’ as a third option which would fix the result by splitting the brexiter vote.

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  28. pugnazious says:

    BBC presenters often protest that they’re not fighting the referendum all over again as they fill the airwaves with images of economic doom and despair #duetobrexit. But of course they are. They have spent the last two years and more working towards and promoting a second referendum and with that in mind have shaped their output to paint that picture of economic armageddon, concentrating almost exclusively on doomladen economic forecasts…never mind that the vote was not about economics but sovereignty and control. Failing being able to force a second referendum this barrage of black propaganda has a backstop, serving to make people despair of Brexit [combined with the deliberately engineered chaos and confusion sown by Remainers, like May, who created the most abysmal deal that was remarkably totally unacceptable to just about everybody…planned chaos that was designed to show how ‘impossible’ Brexit really is] and think ‘nice idea but let’s just quietly forget it’…thus giving MPs licence to cancel Brexit and rejoin the EU without too much blowback from Leave voters.

    If this article isn’t the BBC on the campaign trail I don’t know what is….just why do they produce if not to inject a dose of fear into people that Brexit will be a disaster?

    What can New Zealand teach us about Brexit?

    ‘Brexit is, to put it mildly, an unusual event.

    But there are precedents for some aspects of it.

    New Zealand provides one example. The country faced a sudden, adverse change in access to a key export market when the UK joined the European Economic Community (EEC), as it was then, in 1973.

    New Zealand is a case that does have some relevance.

    Before the UK joined the EEC in January 1973, it was the destination for 30% of New Zealand exports, amounting to 8% of the country’s economic activity or GDP.

    But from that point, New Zealand exporters faced the EEC’s common external tariff.

    Total export earnings fell in the first two years, investment grew more slowly and then declined from 1975. The economy went into recession in 1974.

    Eventually New Zealand did find new markets. But overall economic growth did not return to pre-1973 rate until the 1980s.
    New Zealand is just one case, so it needs to be viewed with some caution.

    But it certainly does suggest that the sudden loss of preferential access to an important market can have very significant economic costs.
    The UK today is obviously a substantially different economy compared with New Zealand’s more than 40 years ago. The experience nonetheless provides some pointers about one of the issues the UK could face outside the EU. ‘

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    • taffman says:

      The EU sells far more to us than we sell to them .
      The EU will be the losers.
      We the UK save £39 Billion as a bonus unless the EU have re-invented mathematics?
      Although I would not put it passed them as they have already re-invented democracy .

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      p
      The lesson is – do not join anything with Europe or International in the title because it will be run by lying Communists who are trying to exterminate you.
      150000+

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Good spot and post, pug. I suspect the BBC are displaying their ignorance caused by their Brexit blinkers.

      The BBC overlooks the limited nature of the NZ economy in the 1950s, 1960s & 1970s, in no small part due to its sacrifices in WW2 but also because it was not a developed country in any sense of the world.

      In addition, NZ was also badly hit – perhaps more so than similar nations – by the world OPEC-created oil price shock of the 1970s. They were also highly reliant on imports of all technological goods but at a time when Japan was developing its First World hegemony.

      Then, as the UK was forced to turn its back on NZ and its markets & exports from 1972/3 on, it was topped off the 1990s by the collapse of its National Bank due to misfeasance.

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  29. Alicia Sinclair says:

    Did I hear that Englands win over Columbia in the World Cup is one of the contenders for a BBC Sport Award later tonight?
    And that some legless kid has got an award named after a dead BBCsports Hackett’s from years ago?
    Sport is dead. Just give Lineker an award for his lifetime, and shut the whole sorry farrago down. Pitiful .

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  30. Lucy Pevensey says:

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    • Beltane says:

      Equally astonishing is the general failure to follow EU history, Lucy. The Danes, Dutch and French have all been forced to toe the EU line on referenda, just like the Irish and just as we very probably will.
      The comparisons with the Obama election are significant, but in our case you can add in a deliberately engineered loss of a sweeping majority in the 2017 election – taxing pensions, free vote on hunting, ‘strong and stable’ blah, blah – calculated to contrive precisely the current situation.
      And those who believe that this was not conceived and orchestrated by Brussels and a compliant UK cabinet, please go back to playgroup and begin again.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Yes and the backstory shows how the EU cannot be trusted whatever it promises.

      The second Irish vote was forced on the Irish and made more palatable by EU promises of guaranteed Irish military neutrality, and no EU interference in its taxes or abortion laws.

      The ECHR has consistently ruled on abortion in Ireland thus influencing the issues there, the Irish are likely to join an EU army with the slippery get-out of a ‘redefiniton of neutrality’ and of course the EU has forced the Irish to alter their tax laws…famously in regard to Apple.

      Essentially the EU won the vote with what were undoubtedly complete lies. Any outrage from the BBC?

      When you hear that the EU is offering May somewhat nebulous reassurances as proof of their good faith you might look somewhat askance at that in the full knowledge of what the EU is really like…..deeply authoritarian, deeply untrustworthy and deeply contemptuous of the voters….the voters who didn’t put them where they are as the Commission is unelected of course, the voters who cannot remove them….and would probably be made to vote again if they did.

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC are now shilling for a second EU Referendum in the News broadcasts, eg. 4pm on R4.

    Where is that Gina Miller when you need her?

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    • StewGreen says:

      David Cameron : remind me what you said about a second EU Referendum, before we voted.

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      • pugnazious says:

        Your decision, not politicians, not parliament, not lobby groups. Your voice will be respected not ignored.

        I look forward to that promise being implemented.

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        • StewGreen says:

          And here’s the salient points from the leaflet
          Someone posted the whole PDF earlier but it’s a bit too long
          referendum.jpg

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          • Lucy Pevensey says:

            Stew,
            I’m an extremist & I can’t understand that. What does it mean? 🙂

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Lucy
              According to Lord Patten I’m not just an extremist but also a rodent and a Maoist or is it a Maori?

              Any way – the non elected Patten in elder statesman mode did a proper sneer job like hezza , Blair and other non elected has beens – mandelson and a. Campbell and Adonis – all given generous amounts of time by the BBC.

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          • pugnazious says:

            Your decision but you didn’t have the full knowledge of what you were voting for…now, informed as you are of the disaster that would befall us if Brexit were to continue, you can vote again with your eyes fully open….and this time get it right!

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            • G.W.F. says:

              Farage says we should prepare for a second referendum in case they spring one on us.
              I think we should start preparing for a third in case the remainers win.

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              • vesnadog says:

                I’m getting weary of Farage! He of all people should know the pitfalls of putting words into other peoples minds!

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          • StewGreen says:

            Someones opinion

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        • StewGreen says:

          @Pug I believe Mrs May found some typos in Cameron’s speech

          “This is NOT your decision,
          BUT RATHER Not politicians, Not parliaments, AND Not lobby groups’ , Not mine & THE PM’s,
          Just you the British people will NOT decide,
          when the British people speak their voice, it will NOT be respected BUT RATHER JUST not ignored”

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          • pugnazious says:

            Yes, astounding really when Brexit, as even the BBC admits, was in essence about disillusionment with the political system…and what is the political system’s reaction? Crush Brexit thus preserving their entrenched and profitable interests. Odd how the BBC doesn’t really notice this utter contempt and the paradox of the situation.

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          • StewGreen says:

            I spot the text in the Express : In the old footage, he said:

            “You will have to judge what is best for you and your family, for your children and grandchildren, for our country, for our future.
            “It will be your decision whether to remain in the EU on the basis of the reforms we secure, or whether we leave.
            “Your decision. Nobody else’s.
            Not politicians’,
            not Parliament’s.
            Not lobby groups’.
            Not mine.
            Just you. You, the British people, will decide.

            “At that moment, you will hold this country’s destiny in your hands. This is a huge decision for our country, perhaps the biggest we will make in our lifetimes. And it will be the final decision.

            “So to those who suggest that a decision in the referendum to leave would merely produce another stronger renegotiation and then a second referendum in which Britain would stay, I say think again.”
            “The renegotiation is happening right now. And the referendum that follows will be a once in a generation choice. An in or out referendum.

            “When the British people speak, their voice will be respected, not ignored. If we vote to leave, then we will leave.
            There will not be another renegotiation and another referendum.

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  32. pugnazious says:

    Theresa May seems flavour of the month at the BBC which has been incredibly supportive and uncritical of her as she stoically defends her deal in the face of almost total opposition. The BBC’s position today is in stark contrast to the one they adopted during the 2017 election when the BBC’s desperation for a Labour government, even one led by a terrorist supporting Marxist anarchist who wants to destroy capitalism, the army, NATO and the security services, meant they weighted all their output to savaging May and the Tories.

    How different today. What’s changed? Has the BBC slipped into a parallel universe, the one where Tories are heroes and terrorist supporting wreckers are the badguys? Or is it that May is steathily managing the slow process of stopping Brexit in its tracks? The BBC’s support for May tells you all you need to know about her deal. As Trump says….‘It’s great for the EU’…as evidenced by the EU memo that said the EU could use the deal to leverage the negotiations in its favour…as evidenced almost immediately by Macron who said give us all your fish or you’ll be stuck in the Backstop forever.

    If you think May’s deal is more cock-up than conspiracy, you may be right, you’re not, but you could be.

    Here is the fanatically pro-EU Matthew Parris admitting last year that there is almost certainly a conspiracy….events showed him correct as MPs voted again and again for Brexit knowing all along that they would put a sabotaging spoke in the wheel at exactly the right time, a time designed to be so late in the process that only chaos and delay would ensue, and this is exactly what has happened…witness the likes of Remainer Jo Johnstone resigning at the last minute, claiming the same objections as Brexiteers [thus trying to innoculate himself against claims of pro-EU self-interest just as all those MP’s pretending to vote to implement Brexit did], but demanding a different solution…a 2nd referendum….the ‘only solution’ to the chaos…the chaos deliberately created by him and his kind.

    At last! The subversion of Brexit has begun

    ‘The Brexit crowd are right to smell a rat.

    With apologies to fellow Remainers who may accuse me of letting the cat out of the bag, I must tell you that this business of a ‘transitional’ or ‘implementation’ period after Britain has formally left the EU — the plan that Theresa May endorsed in Florence last week — strikes me as carrying a secret threat to Leavers’ hopes: a threat Remainers should not disclose yet.

    Were I a Machiavellian Remainer I would be telling fellow Remainers (quietly, lest we be overheard) something like this:

    ‘Guys, each of the steps on our journey must look like common sense when taken in isolation. Theresa has just taken the first: she has made a case it’s really very hard to resist, arguing that (1) more time is needed for the final terms of Brexit to be shaped (obviously true). Therefore (2) because British business and industry need to plan ahead, let’s leave the EU on schedule, but have a few years’ breathing space in which until further notice we carry on as we are. Two years (at the very minimum) can be used to shape the final terms of our departure.

    ‘This, guys, sounds pretty obvious common sense too.

    ‘But guys, it’s important to leave it at that, for the moment. Important to give this sensible-sounding proposal time to bed down. Important to lace our speeches with assurances that the “transition” is simply the bridge. “Time to adjust”, “buy a bit more time”, etc. Brexit is on course, but running a bit late: that’s the song we should all sing.

    ‘If we succeed (as we surely can) in making this argument so persuasive as to put the proposal beyond serious dispute, then we shall in due course be ready for the next step. But we’re not there yet.

    ‘The next step will be as follows. Imagine the March 2019 deadline for departure approaches. Imagine (though it can’t be assumed) that our 27 EU partners look ready to offer us these two years of transition. Remind yourselves of that offer. That we pay into the EU budget for another two years; accept the rules of the single market for another two years; accept continuing, uncontrolled EU immigration for another two years; but with immediate effect are thrown out of the governing councils and committees of the Union, kicked out of the European Parliament and lose our right for British nominees to sit on the European Commission and for British judges to sit on the European Court of Justice.

    ‘In short, guys, we are regulated, adjudicated and taxed as before but — unlike before — without a voice, without representation, without influence. Is that optimal? Is that fair? Indeed, is that even necessary? How about demanding a continuing say in EU decision-making for so long as we’re paying in, and playing by their regulatory rules? No taxation without representation.

    ‘And as it happens, guys, there’s a name for this suggested improved idea. It’s called being in the European Union. In what possible respect can taking their rules and meeting their tax demands, but without having any say, be a better situation than getting a say too? Guys, our argument, when we come to make it, is going to be hard to resist.

    ‘But (you may ask) are the other 27 going to offer us such an option?

    ‘Well why not? If our fellow members of the European club are content for us to carry on using the club’s facilities for two years even though we’ve formally relinquished our membership, why shouldn’t they agree to a simpler option: that we simply postpone leaving at all, until we’re ready? Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, governing a country’s departure from the EU, specifically permits such a stay of execution, so long as the remaining members all agree.

    ‘But guys, not a word about this yet. You know how touchy Brexit headbangers are. You know how insecure they feel, how fearful that somehow it’s all going to be snatched away from them before Britain signs on the dotted line. What they’ll fear is that until we’re right out of that door and no longer EU members, there will always be the danger that Brexit fever may abate, the electorate will move on, and other, bigger, more pressing events will intercede.

    ‘What (Brexiteers fret) if, four or five years on from the 2016 referendum but still a part of the EU, Britain should start to wonder if it’s really all that bad after all? So serious headbangers are desperate that momentum should not be lost. And remember: their supporters are much older than ours. They’re dying faster. Every year there are few hundred thousand fewer. And a Labour government could bring in votes for 16-year-olds. Logic may whisper that staying until we’ve agreed our leaving terms makes sense rationally; but some inner hunch, some nameless dread, whispers to them that it’s better to burn those bridges fast.

    ‘So guys, not a word about where this proposal for a transition period must logically lead. Not yet.’’

    He is of course correct, the transition period and the backstop have been designed to delay Brexit and keep us ‘aligned’ closely with the EU so that rejoining will be more likely and fairly smooth to do, on the EU’s terms of course [and if you really believe the ECJ ruling recently you must be mad or deluded…the EU always finds a a way to further its own interests regardless of any law…rejoining will come at a hefty price]…and why would we want to do that? Because we have seen that the Brexit process is totally chaotic, beyond control and does not by any means deliver on the promises that the lying Brexiters made.

    The Establishment, the Swamp, is working its magic and the runes suggest Brexit will be crushed unless some outstanding, charismatic and powerful advocate steps up and takes the reigns from May and stands firm against the EU. The only person with the personality and will is Boris, or Trump, and we all know the BBC et al will pound him into the ground as they try to do with Trump.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, that is why ‘they’ (the BBC included) are throwing everything against a No-Deal departure in 2019. If we are are allowed to fully escape and all the dire predictions prove mostly or totally false, we are in a position of some strength.

      Not only that, those that have careers based on keeping us in the EU and have made those predictions, their credibility will be shot and those careers may well be finished, starting with the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Governor of the Bank of England and down through various political Parties and.State Institutions.

      Then if the predictions of doom are somewhat offset by lower inflation, another good summer (highly likely – they tend to go in pairs) and other improving economic indicators (High Street retail excepted) then it will be hard to get people feeling too nostalgic for wanting to be back in the EU. Add continuing bad news from the EU nations into the mix and you can sense the Hard-Remainer desperation, as evidenced by Chris Patten and Tony Blair this weekend.

      Our prayers should be, I think, directed toward a stiffening of resolve of the Prime Minister against all the siren voices especially those of Juncker, Tusk and Barnier.

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  33. lojolondon says:

    Biased BBC always really sniffy about Russian TV – but this reporter shows how ‘news’ id done : https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CfBRv_1544909649

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      ljl
      “sniffy about Russian TV” No.
      Many here regularly view and comment on items on RT UK.
      RT UK needs to be accompanied by regular quantities of salt.
      But RT UK is better than the £4.5 Billion BBC.
      Faint praise for RT UK, Mad Magazine is superior to the BBC.

      RT UK Currently leading with this :-
      “‘Theresa May lookalike’ wanted by police after money stolen from cash machine”

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  34. Guest Who says:

    Like the BBC, Sky have gotten rather excited by the lorra luvvies letter, but have taken to reposting over and over as it has not gone well before.

    And still isn’t. Well, they always have the rigged rerun to push together on.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      GW
      200 people!
      17,410,742 People voted for Brexit and Sky are demanding it is disregarded.
      Come back again 350 years after some ethnic wins the Nobel Prize for Physics, and we’ll think about it.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The BBC also gets creative with small numbers as noted here and ITTB, where the % of conceded complaints to total submitted is beyond credulity.

        The difference is, 200 luvvies do not matter. Deep sixing legitimate concerns from tens of thousands of viewers and then crowing about it is a big mistake.

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    • taffman says:

      “Who should be on the new £50 note?”
      Start with Britannia.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Guest Who
      There’s just no pleasing some folks. For most of my life a black face took pride of place on jars of a very tasty brand of marmalade. Then someone opined it was offensive and the black face disappeared.
      The same thing could happen if a black face was to be put on the £50 note. I don’t think we can afford the risk. Let’s use Mrs May – after she has delivered a proper Brexit for our nation.

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  35. taffman says:

    Al Beeb
    “Brussels protest over UN migration pact turns violent”
    “Europe’s migration crisis: Could it finish the EU?”
    Things are not going well in the EU. Would anyone vote to join it now ?

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      t
      “Would anyone vote to join it now”
      I will join as Saloonland, a small island in the Baltic.
      I will single-handedly cause havoc in the EU.
      Having read “Wasp” by Eric Frank Russell.

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  36. Dover Sentry says:

    The BBC fails to condemn Macron for the use of tear-gas and water canon during the French riots.

    It would be so wrong in the eyes of the BBC/Left if the police were to do the same here.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover
      The use of tear gas on the British mainland has always been one of those signs of ‘ defeat’ for law and order as opposed to mainland Europe where it’s a tradition .

      When the next social media driven riots breakout I think the cops are gonna need as much as they can get as they haven’t the numbers or training any more.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      DS
      You just watch.
      First sign of Brexit violence and we will have EU armoured cars on the streets.
      Just as in France.
      UK Police will say we cannot handle this due to “austerity”.
      EU will say “it’s a pleasure to be able to assist a member state in its time of need”.
      EU forces will be told minimum provocation maximum response and will kick the … out of anyone within range.
      Excessive force will be then blamed on the Spanish, or wherever the troops are from, being over enthusiastic.
      EU will come out of their attacks whiter than the driven snow, having cracked the skulls of as many people as they can. All useful experience in the early stages of the violent repression of European peoples.

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        Regarding the use of tear gas I think we all know the BBC score:

        If it’s used against leavers/ “populists”, Trump or TR supporters -BBC will try to ignore it or justify it.
        If it’s used against remoaners, far-left thugs, Muslims or immigrants BBC will go into outrage overdrive 24/7.

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  37. StewGreen says:

    7pm BBC Sports Personality of the Year
    \\ @clarebalding tweeted
    Looking forward to Sports Personality of the Year tonight. Live on @BBCOne at 7pm. We’ll reveal the contenders when we come on air but who do you think should be on the shortlist and who will win?
    Use #SPOTY //
    I guess they held off announcing the shortlist ..so they can fill it with BAME
    and make up for the shame of the public voting for white person Stacey Dooley last night

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  38. Up2snuff says:

    Something to give everyone some hope: especially Brexiteers.

    The EU have actually been a pushover – twice – in the last week or so. We were told, after ‘Dave’s’ unsuccessful re-negotiation of our EU membership terms and before June 2016, that there was little chance of getting 27 Member States to all agree quickly to anything. We were also warned by Remain & Leave Campaigns that the European Court of Justice would be rigid and unbending in deciding the law regarding our withdrawal.

    Yet here we are and the 27 Member States & the ECJ have both interfered in our democratic processes and made us offers we can refuse. And we would be wise to decline both, in my view.

    That ought to be trumpeted from every roof top throughout the land. The way ahead – far from being uncertain – appears to be that the EU can cave in, but only when we are wobbling in our resolve.

    Now let us try it the other way.

    Let us have that Parliamentary vote, PM, as close to the end of January 2019 as possible and as soon as it is lost, please go to Brussels and sweep the £39bn and the transition period back into your handbag (“In a handbag!”) and head out the door to get on with your fairness agenda and creating more jobs for our UK unemployed.

    You currently have over 157,000 people behind you if you do that and you will know what multiplier the SPADs apply to such things. By 17 April, it may be over 500,000, perhaps a million.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      U2S
      “You currently have over 157,000 people behind you”
      I hope not.
      It is nearly 160,000 now.
      The petition is title is “Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019.”
      I have supported “no deal”, I would not support May running a bath, let alone Brexit.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Any quote, LCS, is going to be out of date pretty quickly. i watched it over the 160K mark; it’s now over halfway between 161K & 162K.

        Ooops!

        Three-quarters of the way.

        🙂

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  39. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  40. Luckyharry69 says:

    Anybody else tonight going to watch BBC Non Sport or Non Personality of the Year award and see how long you can last before switching over/off?….I will give myself possibly 10 minutes MAX………..theres a white Aretha to start proceedings?…jesus…what a load of SHIT…I must be getting old………

    my guess is….
    Women will be bigged up
    Black asian or generally coloured people of ethnic origin will be bigged up
    Handicapped and people who are marginalised by society will be bigged up
    People of an alternative sexuality who we should all accept as being OK will do well…
    and some bloke from Dudley who coaches kids….because there has to be a working class type dull bloke win an award?…..
    and LGBT people MUST get a mention!!…Tom Daley and his wife/husband?…and their ‘children’?…..
    bla bla bla bla………
    God I miss the days when a sports award was for brilliant sporting achievement…Mary Peters where are you today!!!?……

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  41. Luckyharry69 says:

    I didnt last long…only got to the woman on the tea tray..pretending to be sport……..

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Lucky -try PBS America – a documentary about Canadians in bomber command …

      … I’m a bit peeved about the BBC nicking our idea for a “biased BBC personality of the year award”

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  42. LastChanceSaloon says:

    160153

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  43. Fedup2 says:

    TIME FOR A NEW THREAD ….

       1 likes