600 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 12 December 2018

  1. Annunaki says:

    let us all remember, muslims can sell drugs and rape our children because we are not muslimsm …bruv


  2. G.W.F. says:

    The mystery of the BBC’s teleporting boy.


    From the article
    ‘It seems the BBC wasn’t happy with its own support of Theresa May in her time of need – the Corporation had to manufacture some by doctoring interview footage.

    I should point out that doctoring interview quotes – altering them to make it seem as though the person is saying something they did not – is forbidden among reputable journalistic organisations.

    To see the BBC faking support for the prime minister in this fashion is a betrayal of everyone who pays the licence fee. We want to fund genuine news – not propaganda.’


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Editorial is going to be renamed BBC It Can All Be Sorted In Post next year.


      Maybe Nick can get them to magic that Orwell quote he has to walk past to somewhere less awkward?


    • Payne by name says:

      Thanks for posting. I just went on the Twitter page to make the point that it is amazing that the Beeb could have said this “The press secretary later shared a zoomed in clip of the incident, which observers say is a doctored video originally posted by right-wing conspiracy theorist Paul Joseph Watson” when talking about Jim Acosta’s incident in that press briefing.

      Paul simply slowed the video down to demonstrate that both Jim and Jimmy Fallon were lying when they claimed that he hadn’t touched the intern. He certainly didn’t manage to make a child appear out of nowhere.

      What’s amazing when you read some of the comments is the imbecility from the people saying ‘typical BBC defending the Govt/Tories’.

      FFS, isn’t it patently obvious that they are defending the EU and not May you cretinous morons.


  3. pugnazious says:

    The irony of this on the BBC, home of the Far Right approved concept of ‘Cultural appropriation’ which leads logically and inexorably to separation of the races, cultures and nations…..er…in other words apartheid…..


  4. davylars says:

    Whilst the BBC are still ranting on about man made climate change and global warming virtually every day, pumping out their agenda so most people now actually believe it, and fall for it hook line and sinker.

    Here is a quote taken from an article by Live Scientist about penguins that have died and been mummified over hundreds of years.

    “ These penguins, were mummified by the cold, dry Antarctica environment, likely died from weather on the opposite end of the spectrum: two extremely rainy and snowy events that happened over the past 1,000 years, a new study finds.
    “It is quite likely that global climate warming caused enhanced precipitation, which led to the tragedy,” said study lead researcher Liguang Sun, a professor of Earth science at the Institute of Polar Environment at the University of Science and Technology of China.”


    Nothing to with us humans…..


  5. Annunaki says:

    And what do we have in our coutry, on benefits, muslims that take tthe benefits and decide they hate the country that houses them… well done mussies


    • English Lass says:

      Annunaki I don’t believe that this sort of language is helpful. Whilst I really do believe that the true way to acceptance for anyone living in another’s environment is ‘when in Rome do as the Romans’ messages such as yours don’t help. I think the BBC and other MSM push to drive multiculturalism is having the opposite effect of what they think they are doing, and also allowing those who have a stubborn drive to not conform to do even less so and gives them a platform for pushing against the British way of life.
      I believe what is happening is wrong and that the MSM and BBC should be promoting the huge benefits of our culture and ways and not putting them down. The way it’s happening at the moment is extremely wrong but messages like yours will only add fuel to the fire.


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        ” the huge benefits of our culture and ways”
        They have 1500 years history of trying to destroy our culture and our ways.
        1500 years history trying to destroy every other culture and their ways.
        I have the dreaded Y chromosome.
        Leopard, spots. It’s them or us.
        Tens of millions of dead Y chromosomes lie in graveyards.
        Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it.


        • taffman says:

          ” the huge benefits of our culture and ways”
          Absolutely correct. That explains why everyone and the whole world is trying to get in to this country but our lefty snowflakes despise this great nation. Its all about our educationalists and their doctrine which is promulgated in our schools and ‘Yoonies’.


      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        English Lass: which bit of language from An…..do you find unhelpful?
        Or Muslims?
        Give us a clue.
        Just what is your idea of how the MSM intend multiculturalism to work?
        I strongly suspect you have it arse backwards ( is arse allowed here?).
        Multiculturalism was never intended to mix the cultures but allow separate enclaves to develop alongside each other. The result obviously would form ghettoes that dont mix.
        Are you pechance some kind of snowflake!


        • English Lass says:

          DC. Not critical of An or his thoughts just the language.
          I know which way round my rear end is! And, I don’t need to answer your question. Criticism should be aimed at the articles not the person!


  6. pugnazious says:

    Funny old world when things go down the memory hole in the blink of an eye when found to be an inconvenience to the new narrative.

    The BBC have been harping on about Priti Patel’s comment that the EU might come to its senses if it read its own report into the effect of a no-deal on Ireland….she was widely attacked by Remainers for apparently saying we should starve the Irish into submission…. how the hell could she forget the Irish famine?….so insensitive to suggest using food as a weapon of negotiation…of course that’s not what she meant or said, she was raising the obvious point that no-one wants a no-deal as it would not be ideal for anyone and according to the EU’s own report would effect the Irish the worst…thus it would be wise of the EU to temper its demands and come up with a real deal that can be acceptable to all and avoid a no-deal.

    ‘A Tory MP’s suggestion that the economic impact of a no-deal Brexit on the Republic of Ireland could encourage the EU to drop the backstop has been widely criticised.

    However, Priti Patel said her comments “have been taken out of context”.

    A government report, leaked to the Times, indicated that there could be food shortages in Ireland in the event of a no-deal Brexit.’

    The BBC and its fellow Remainers seem to have forgotten the apocalyptic forecasts and predictions of their side saying we would all starve as the food rotted in massive lorry parks, we’d all die as medicines ran out, and even if we survived plague and famine life wouldn’t be worth living as we’d be stuck in the hell hole that would be boring old Brexit Britain, trapped in the 1950’s, or would it be the 1930’s?, with no escape as planes couldn’t fly and ports were closed.

    How about the madness of that plot to oust May!!?? How crazy to put this country through weeks of a self-indulgent Tory leadership contest when there is a grave national crisis unfolding before us…however….months of campaigning on another referendum would be just fine…or in Labour’s case how about not just a new leader but a new government? It’s so indulgent of the Tories to try and ship May out but let’s kick Brexit and the negotiations into the long grass whilst we spend weeks fighting a general election so that Corbyn can get his feet into No10!…The same Labour that was demanding May resign two days ago.

    And the irony of the BBC joining in the fun attacking the ‘hardline Brexiteers’ for their coup trying to topple May. This is the BBC that only a short while ago was demanding to know, like Labour, if May would resign because she had so little support for her deal…..

    ‘Theresa May avoids resignation question’

    Then we have Ken Clarke doing his Lord Haw Haw impression in the service of the EU regime across the sea with the neverendingly helpful BBC being on hand to broadcast his betrayal of the nation to the nation in a relentless stream of interviews and quotes.

    Have to say I was somewhat confused when I first heard Clarke…surely he was talking about the prospect of a 2nd referendum when he asked if anything could be “more unhelpful, irrelevant and irresponsible” than for the Conservative Party to embark on weeks of self-indulgent, childish campaigning and infighting.

    It was of course completely appropriate for the Brexiteers to try and topple May. May is completely incapable of, and unwilling to, bring about Brexit as voted for, her deal is Remain in all but name and it is not going to pass though Parliament. This was not self-indulgence at all but very definitely in the national interest in order to secure Britain’s position in the world as an independent nation….it is May’s own indulgence of the Remainers, like Clarke, who have demanded Brexit be watered down into non-existence that has led to this ‘grave national crisis’ as Clarke puts it. If she had done as charged by the voters she would have had the backing of the Brexiteers, and the Remainers, Soubry, Hammond and Clarke aside, would have swallowed it, ‘in the national interest’, and we could have had a united front and an agreed position to use as leverage in the negotiations..instead we had Remain saboteurs doing all they could to undermine our position which allowed the EU to run rings around us…they even use the classic Hitler/Putin tactic of claiming they are dong a land-grab in order to protect the interests of their own citizens…in this case people in NI who want to join Eire. The BBC pretends not to notice this attempted land-grab and annexation of sovereign British territory…a land-grab backed up by the threat of violence if it’s not agreed to…the murderous threat of the IRA being used as a negotiating tactic. Quite something when the EU side suggest that it will be OK to kidnap, kneecap, torture, murder, massacre civilians and bomb a society into submission, which is in effect what the Remain side have signed up to as part of their negotiations. Again the BBC just doesn’t notice.

    Arch Remainer Clarke is a constant on the BBC now as are so many Remainers….Brexiteers seem far and few between and when they do get on, as Steve Baker from the ERG, they are treated with hostility and hardly allowd to complete a sentence or allow an idea to develop and be explained. Toynbee and the Time’s Rachel Silvestre are regulars and both Remainers, hardline you might say….Silvestre constantly promotes a second referendum and both get a free ride without interruption or challenge….similarly the Time’s [a Remain paper] Sam Coates who is a sometime presenter of BBC political programmes. If you hadn’t guessed his inclinations already yesterday you would have had a clear indication of his leanings as he made a scurrilous claim that Tory MPs are proud of being duplicitous and treacherous….but they are tainted because of it. He also declared The Spectator as being the house journal of the Tory Party….plenty of articles in it to suggest that’s just not true. For a start Isabel Hardman is not at all Tory friendly…hence she gets aske onto the BBC so often.

    Maybe not so odd that it is the Time’s Sam Coates who kicked off the faux fury accusing Patel of wanting to starve the Irish into submission after his interview with her…

    Times exclusive

    Huge emotive row over whether UK should threaten Ire to choose between “no deal or no backstop”

    Brexiteers like @patel4witham say it’s leverage Britain should – and can still use.

    But @lisanandy says it’s morally repugnant to threaten Ireland inc food supplies pic.twitter.com/z350UYa19f
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) December 7, 2018

    Yes, funny how so many things seem to pass the BBC by and the nuance, context and analysis just go missing when convenient.


  7. pugnazious says:

    Let’s remember who the real extremists are and who uses scaremongering, fear and lies to make their case.

    Hammond calls Brexiteers who have the temerity to demand the Government and Parliament fulfill the wishes of the voters ‘extremists’, the BBC calls them ‘hardliners’…of course they are just ‘Brexiteers’, it is the Remainers who refuse to accept the referendum vote and who refuse to compromise and instead work relentlessly to sabotage the negotiations regardless of the damage they do to the national interest who are ‘hardline’ and ‘extreme’ and yet you won’t hear the BBC refer to them in that way, ever. In the BBCs eye they are moderates, rational, reasonable and pragmatic, fighting for a sensible compromise deal that will unite the country and protect jobs and the economy…code for ‘staying in the EU in all but name’. Naturally such a reality would tear the nation apart and end all faith in politics and politicians.

    Or have I got that wrong? Apparently, according to the BBC, it is Brexit that would lead to that apocalypic endgame as they predicted in their pre-referendum ‘documentary’ that we remember so well….amazingly so called as it is set in a Brexit future…..

    The Telegraph panned it at the time….

    Nine things The Great European Disaster Movie got wrong
    ‘The BBC Four documentary cited a number of popular myths about the European Union says Toby Young
    Last night, the BBC broadcast The Great European Disaster Movie, a “documentary” set in the future about the calamitous consequences of Britain’s exit from the European Union. According to the makers of the film, this would create a domino effect, prompting more and more countries to withdraw until, in 2022, the European Union collapses. By then, Nigel Farage has become Prime Minister and begun to repatriate anyone who arrived in Britain since 2007, widespread civil disorder has broken out in Greece, Italy and Spain, a state of emergency has been declared in France and ISIL has begun its “unstoppable” advance across the European mainland.

    The film was made by Bill Emmott, an ex-editor of the Economist, and Annalisa Piras, an Italian journalist who writes for the Guardian. Europhiles often portray their opponents as swivel-eyed fanatics who are impervious to reason, but The Great European Disaster Movie wasn’t exactly a model of dispassionate, evidence-based analysis. On the contrary, it was an example of the scaremongering often engaged in by pro-Europeans, except instead of merely claiming that Brexit would cause the economy to collapse, it threw in Western civilisation for good measure. As the Conservative MEP Dan Hannan pointed out, the only thing it left out of this apocalyptic scenario was flesh-eating zombies.

    In the course of 75 minutes, Emmott and Piras managed to shoehorn in all the usual myths about the European Union.’

    The BBC denied ‘The Great European Disaster Movie’ was EU-funded: that was untrue

    ‘Back in March[2015], the BBC aired an alarmist pro-EU film called ‘The Great EU Disaster Movie’. With an election only weeks away in which our relationship with the EU was a major issue, it was an outrageous decision for our state broadcaster to air such a piece of political propaganda.

    There was another aspect of the story: who had funded this film? Had the production company received any EU money? UKIP, among others, suggested that it had.

    At the time, the BBC firmly denied that was the case:

    “No EU money was used in the making of the programme being aired on the BBC. Impartiality is of paramount importance for the BBC. This fictional programme reflects the author’s vision. BBC editorial guidelines do not prevent the acquisition of independent programmes which approach subjects from a particular perspective.”

    Today we have some more information. The TaxPayers’ Alliance has published an investigation into ‘Creative Europe’, an EU Commission project which hands out grants of taxpayers’ money to specific television productions. Lo and behold, the TPA report includes a grant of €96,991 (£70,975) to a project which was then titled ‘Who do you think EU are?’.

    The relevant file on the Creative Europe website shows this money being given to Springshot Productions for ‘TV programming support’ for a show which was meant to be set in a dystopian future in the year 2060, where a British archaeologist played by Eddie Izzard would lay out why it was a disaster that the EU had fallen apart. Given that the eventual show was made by Springshot Productions and starred Angus Deayton as a British archaeologist in a dystopian future laying out why it was a disaster that the EU had fallen apart, this is clearly the same film.

    So in fact the project did receive EU Commission funding after all.’


  8. G.W.F. says:

    I assume we are all aware that BBC bias extends to what is omitted, and not just news. There is much talent in the land expressing wit and satire. But not on the state broadcaster.

    Meet Titania McGrath who can lampoon the left and the woke.
    “I Now Understand How Nelson Mandela Felt”
    read on
    My name is Titania McGrath. I am a radical intersectionalist poet committed to feminism, social justice, and armed peaceful protest. In April of this year, I decided to become more industrious on social media. I was inspired by other activists who had made use of their online platforms in order to spread their message and explain to people why they are wrong about everything.




    • Fedup2 says:

      Titiania was banned from twitter for 24 hours but is back now …. good one to hit ‘ following ‘ for


  9. Guest Who says:

    BBC fave elder stateofhim of Color gets his mates altogether in a chat room, and blows up his own briefcase, unintentionally.

    There is something else that link this merry band. Uniquely, some might say.

    Just noticed this also links another post. I guess that means mine will be excised from here, despite citing an MP the bbc invite on a lot. Pity.


  10. Beltane says:

    According to HuffPost ‘High level Labour figures are in discussion with the DUP on Brexit, the hard border etc, etc.
    Perhaps they missed the fact that anyone in the DUP talking at whatever level to IRA sympathisers might not be seen as representing the party’s best interests?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Ain’t gonna happen . DUP will go ‘ full British brexit’ before sharing air with Corbyn . I’m sure some our friends here from NI will have a view .


      • Rich says:

        Not so sure Fed, is it better the devil you know? As I heard Sammy Wilson say the other day, to paraphrase, if they’re conniving against you does it matter who is doing it as long as you know they’re conniving. They might accept it’s easier to deal with Corbyn toe-to-toe than be stabbed in the back by May, which won’t happen again. The current Labour party Don’t frighten or hold any surprises for the DUP. And remember, the DUP won’t fear an election either, Protestants will never vote Sinn Fein, Catholics won’t vote DUP, their votes are guaranteed. Right or wrong, the tribal politics over here aren’t just about personalities and policies.

        Paisley and McGuinness were known as “the Chuckle Brothers” over here. If Labour were to agree to leave NI alone, and they’ll sell their soul to gain power, the DUP will do whatever they think needs to be done to maintain the Union.


        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          “the DUP will do whatever they think needs to be done to maintain the Union.”

          I understand that you are from NI, but, last time but one, when the Labour party were in charge, I remember the Labour Party were trying to throw the Unionists under a bus.

          Yes, that Labour Party. The Noraid?, “look at that squirrel over there”, Labour Party.


          • Rich says:


            I’m not condoning it, nor do I claim to have any more knowledge than anyone else of what happens behind closed doors, but as I’m from the same side of the fence as the DUP, my wife was in Arlene Fosters class at school ffs and I was in the same class as the UUP leader, I’ve a fair idea of how they might think.

            The GFA, which the DUP opposed, was signed under a Labour Government and so was the St Andrews Agreement which they supported. There is a history of the DUP negotiating with the Labour Party, who have always had members who have sympathised with the Republican movement. The sanctity of the Union means more to them than any supposed loyalty to a Conservative Party who they can no longer trust to act in their best interests and have shafted them, us, over this backstop bullshit, an issue being intentionally misrepresented and misunderstood by both the bBBC and the pro-May agreement lobby.

            So, I stand by what I said. You’re not wrong in what you say, but I’m not a wee boy, and while I don’t see the relevance of your reference to them I know all about Noraid. I also know there’s much more at stake here to me and mine than I think you can appreciate or understand. The DUP do and will work with whoever they must to get the best deal possible for them.


  11. Guest Who says:


    And citing her via Twitter handle when she hasn’t tweeted is ‘special’ (bbc quotes).


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      GW – “She’s a straight-talking fire-cracker.”
      Translation, just like Warren and Ford, she is a lefty liar.


      • Guest Who says:

        John Sweeney is out of control.

        When he hits the buffers it will be noisy.

        He’s 17 stone, you know.


  12. taffman says:

    Al Beeb
    “Brexit gloom to hit housing market into 2019, says RICS”
    Its never ending bias and propaganda is incessant .
    A lot of my mates now accept that the broadcaster is biased and is a mouthpiece for the EU .
    This will tarnish it for years to come .


  13. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Guardian opinion Thu 13 dec 2018 15:15 GMT
    “The French far right is hijacking the Strasbourg shooting to sow division” “Cécile Guerin”
    “Cécile Guerin is a freelance French journalist based in London”

    Marine Le Pen is to blame. Not the person who carried out the murders.
    Disgusting article.

    Nick Griffin broke the news about the UK mass rapes, the Guardian blamed him and covered up the rapes.
    The Guardian has not yet had a good word to say about Tommy Robinson.

    It seems to me the “far right” are doing what is required and the far left Guardian is on the side of the terrorists. The increasingly far left Guardian.

    No comments allowed, increasingly, in the increasingly very far left Guardian.


  14. vlad says:

    Now here’s a funny thing. Three people died in Strasbourg: a local banker, a Thai tourist and a muslim originally from Afghanistan.

    Guess who gets his picture on al beeb, and a relatively long tweet?



    • Terminal Moraine says:

      “His mosque announced that his funeral will take place after Friday prayers.”

      How often do the press mention if funeral arrangements are ‘announced’ by other temples of worship? Good of the beeb (Propaganda Be Upon Us) to include the important details.


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Whereas the shooter, a local, who was very friendly, of Norwegian extraction, with a Swiss name, of primate heritage, is required to have their origin concealed.

        To make room for details of TR, a genuine hero, to be spread as widely as possible in the BBC hope that this enables his murder.

        I think penalties more harsh than licence revocation are required.


  15. Dystopian says:

    ITV are just as bad as biased BBC. Big Meghan love fest on “Tonight” now.


  16. Guest Who says:

    ‘Folk not really as worked up as we’d like. Got anything to stir the pot’

    ‘How about…’

    ‘Just what the Editor ordered’


    • Payne by name says:

      Biased and irresponsible.

      But fine, if the Beeb likes bringing up old stories to fulfil an agenda what about Brian Hanrahan talking about the Harriers leaving the carrier to fight in the Falklands War. You remember, that time when we still had some fighting spirit and a leader that wasn’t prepared to take any shit.


  17. MarkyMark says:

    BBC contemplate … “A visual journey through hell … What might hell look or sound like? Here’s a journey through some interpretations.”



    • Dystopian says:

      I’m sure the BBC will find out soon enough.

      Anyway I thought their idea of hell was a no deal Brexit!


  18. Terminal Moraine says:

    The BBC ropes in Francis Fukuyama (he of the End of History and arch-globalist purveyor of basic wrong-headedness) to give us a fresh vision of national identity.

    It seems to start off on the right tracks… but, unsurprisingly, shows all of the shallowness and lack of insight you’d expect from a progressive hijacking of the term.

    Don’t be surprised if your understanding of national identity differs from the one Fukuyama and the BBC intend ‘we’ should have.



  19. Dystopian says:


    Do we need to abolish the BBC?

    and this is really what I’m saying;

    We need to abolish the BBC.


  20. Payne by name says:

    Wow, just had the misfortune of watching Emily Matlis berating JRM about the no confidence vote. JRM is too much of a gentleman but I so wish he had said the following to put this Jim Acosta (and so many others like her) wannabe in her place.

    “Excuse me Emily, the BBC is meant to have a world renowned reputation for professional impartiality yet you seem to be ranting at me like a woman at a council meeting who is shrieking about the planning of a motorway through her back garden.

    Can I suggest that you remove the emotion and blatant bias from your work which is clearly corrupting the supposed impartiality and professionalism of your organisation.

    I think when claiming to speak on behalf of the British people, you might want to remember that the majority of people in this country actually voted to leave the EU and not the position that your spittle producing, rage fuelled questioning is making all to clear that you support.

    Now if there are any journalists here who wish to ask me some level headed questions that involve reporting my unfiltered position and not their obvious agenda to the British people then I’d be happy to take them”.


    • Dystopian says:

      Excellent post. We can but dream!


    • JimS says:

      A liitle bit unfair to equate Maitlis with Jim Acosta as she alone(?) of the BBC journalists called out his bad behaviour.

      Apart from that, agreed.


      • Payne by name says:

        The comparison to Acosta was more about a ‘journalist’ believing that their personal opinion was more important and in turn needed to be heard by the public more than actual reporting the news or televising undistilled reporting.

        I didn’t know that she criticised that buffoon, and hence props to her, though the comparison of arrogant self absorbed fool still remains.


    • Banania says:

      She behaved like a fishwife.


  21. Guest Who says:

    This ‘poll’ has of course troubled Rob Burley already, being one that did not suit the bbc belief in public trust.

    I cannot help but notice a sample size of respondents.

    Which might trouble BBC editorial high command still further.


  22. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Strasbourg: Christmas market attacker ‘shot dead’ “”


    Those darn Methodist attackers…


  23. MarkyMark says:

    Suidlanders at the European Parliament



    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      We knew this years ago.
      The EU welcome the death of whites.
      Pesky whites will not vote for more EU.
      The UK should welcome these heroic people to the UK, to the exclusion of anyone else.
      Because nobody else will.
      Encourage and support their invasion of Holland to reclaim their land.


  24. vlad says:

    Strasbourg: Christmas market attacker ‘shot dead’.

    BBC calls for a national day of mourning and a statue to honour this brave fighter for the true faith.

    A ten part docudrama is in the pipeline.


    • G.W.F. says:

      Then interviews with his family who say he was a good moslem, always said his prayers. Then BBC crew go to France and interview moslems living in fear of the backlash.


      • vlad says:

        Then commissions an in-depth report into the underlying causes of terrorism which turn out to be poverty, institutional racism and UKIP.


        • Dover Sentry says:

          The word Terrorist has been replaced by the word Attacker.

          A subtle yet significant replacement in BBC land.


  25. theisland says:

    Alan Duncan has been the main driving force behind the Foreign Office signing up to everything except PESCO. And most MPs are clueless.

    “The only way to stop the giveaway of defence powers via May’s forthcoming defence treaty is to completely block May’s deal or replace a significant mass of the ministers and crucially the officials who have been driving this through.
    However, even if May’s deal is defeated, its defence parts could be taken up again by a determined remainer government acting for the EU Commission and placed into a treaty separate from any exit deal, though this would become a little more difficult as it would require an amendment to internal UK legislation which MPs could block.”


  26. Guest Who says:

    The Today Programme has posted this:


    “The most magnificent irony in this is that you, Jacob Rees-Mogg, have let down your fellow Brexiteers, you’re going to end up with a worse Brexit” – says Emily Maitlis in this fiery exchange with the Tory MP.
    More: bbc.in/2Erv7RV

    (Via BBC Newsnight)


    They seem proud.

    I wonder what other ‘magnificent ironies’ might be found in the ‘reporting’ of the BBC?


    • Payne by name says:

      Typical BBC. How can it be a worse Brexit Emily when the very thing we are talking about doesn’t even constitute a Brexit?

      It’s like giving money to a relative to buy you a Ferrari and they come back saying that they ignored that and are going to buy you a VW.

      If you then complain and say ‘yeah, what about the part where I told you that I wanted a Ferrari’ they turn round and say ‘well because you questioned us, you’re now going to get a Vauxhall’.

      And is that meant to be ironic? Sounds more like moronic.


    • taffman says:

      Guest Who
      Rees-Mogg at his best !
      Mogg for PM .


  27. Dover Sentry says:

    It all goes back to Blair.


  28. Guest Who says:

    Bbc just now:


    It’s been a struggle that’s lasted two years.

    But for now, Prime Minister Theresa May’s fighting talk means she’s kept her job. https://bbc.in/2EuLahV


    Now that…. is holding power to account. She sounds like Boudicca and Maggie rolled into one.


    • Guest Who says:

      Now it seems ‘their’ deal is under threat…

      It’s like Game of Thrones, only without the empathetic characters and laughs, but with added Admiral Ackbar and lots of bbc “quotes”.


    • Terminal Moraine says:

      GW, for some reason that first link made me remember this brilliant headline:



    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Compare May to Maggie?
      I do not think so.
      Maggie was worth more than all of the women, and 99.9% of the alleged men, elected after her.
      Which is why she is still hated, even in death, by the Lilliputians who occupy the stage upon which she strode like a colossus.
      The Iron Lady, a soubriquet given, grudgingly, by the USSR, who at least recognised, and acknowledged, the real thing when it came their way.


  29. MarkyMark says:

    When do we remove Ghandi from History?

    Ghana Foreign Ministry remove Mahatma Gandhi statue from University campus afta protests say he be ‘racist’

    University of Ghana Authorities on Thursday remove statue of India Independence leader, Mahatma Gandhi which dem mount for di school afta massive online protest by some lecturers who argue say Gandhi be racist.

    Dem start plus online protest around 2016 wen former India former president Pranab Mukherjee outdoor am as global peace icon for University of Ghana campus top.



  30. Idiotboy says:

    I greet Dumbledore’s last night on QT with mixed feelings. As objectionable as I have found his tenure as chair, having been reminded on a number of occasions from the other side of the living room that “he can’t hear you”, I still believe that the BBC could have done better than Caroline Lucas, Angela Rayner (queen of the glottal stop), and would-be comedienne Jo Brand.


  31. taffman says:

    “Our Brexit deal is at risk, May warns EU leaders”.
    What does she mean by ‘Our’?
    The EU treats her and these great islands with contempt.
    The Tory Party have just been renamed ‘OXO Party’ .
    Its because they have become the laughing stock.


  32. taffman says:

    Alastair Campbell.
    I just heard him on LBC.
    Please tick ‘Like’ if you think he is a modern-day Lord Haw Haw.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Sorry. No.
      Was Joyce anti British, yes.
      Still admired by plenty in the ROI.
      William Joyce was tried in a kangaroo court, which did not not have the legal authority to try him.
      The efforts of Joyce were in an, already existing, war.

      Campbell, several circles of hell below Joyce.
      If any one person can be blamed for the Islamic terrorism in the UK it is Campbell.

      If the Iraqis demand Blair, Bush Jr and Campbell be handed over, they can have them.
      With an obviously inadequate apology from the UK.


      • Jeff says:

        Please, LSC don’t spout such utter drivel. Joyce was a traitor promoting Nazism while Britain was being bombed to hell.
        Despicable scumbag that Campbell most certainly is, there’s no comparison between him and the repugnant Lord Haw Haw.
        I wouldn’t “urinate” on either Campbell or Blair if they self ignited in front of me. But Joyce wasn’t just unpleasant. He was a gloating traitor who mocked us from afar during our country’s darkest hour.
        Get a grip man!


    • Guest Who says:

      Lord Haw Haw was not in the country, not at the heart of the political establishment and did not have his own green room adjoining every bbc studio.


  33. taffman says:

    \\Army’s £113m recruitment website ‘was 52 months late’//
    Crapita like Al Beeb, are a total waste of money.
    “Well, here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into”


    • Guest Who says:

      Like flies, they are drawn to similar gathering places.

      Seems the bbc-approved ad campaign did not inspire actual soldiers.


  34. taffman says:

    “Strasbourg Christmas market attacker Chekatt shot dead”
    So much for the much-lauded EU Security that we are loosing?


  35. Celtic_Mist says:

    #BiasedBBC World Service US and Canada, where it still has some credibility, pushing the anti Trump narrative –

    Whilst it gleefully reports on anything Cohen it carefully ignores other ongoing investigations –


  36. vlad says:

    Spot the bbc bias in their ‘reporting’ of the 3 Strasbourg victims, below.

    The muslim gets about 10 lines, a full tweet, with photo, from his mosque, and additional comments etc.

    The local man and Thai tourist about 1 line each. No photo, not even a name for local man.

    Is the beeb racist towards Thais and Buddhisto-phobic?? SHAME!

    Who were the victims of the attack?
    The death of Kamal Naghchband, originally from Afghanistan, was announced on Thursday. The father of three died in hospital. His mosque announced that his funeral will take place after Friday prayers.

    A retired bank worker aged 61, from Strasbourg, was also killed in the attack, according to Le Figaro.

    The third victim is believed to be a Thai tourist who was on holiday with his wife.
    Anupong Suebsamarn, 45, has been named by Thai media as one of the dead.


    • vlad says:

      P.S. The muslim also gets condolences in French, etc.

      Not Whitie or Asian.

      Here’s the link, unless the beeb are shamed into editing it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46561574

      But the beeb don’t do shame, do they?


    • vlad says:

      I suspect the beeb’s emphasis on the muslim victim serves a number of purposes. It portrays a muslim as victim, the beeb’s preferred narrative. It plants the idea that this was an islamophobic crime. It implies the killer wasn’t a real muslim as he killed muslims too. (I’ve often heard that false argument used by apologists of various stripes.)
      Generally it muddies the waters and confuses readers.
      Job done.


  37. vlad says:

    I wish we could do caption bubbles. She’d be saying “Please love me.”

    He’d be saying “Who are you?”



  38. Halifax says:

    I see the BBC are mocking the NYT in its Twitter appeal for Londoners to come forward with tales of Crimes in the city afters it’s London correspondent flat was burgled. The BBC narrative is “what crimes” look how Londoners laugh at New Yorkers believing that crime is out of control in London ( which has risen expedienently along with immigration) nothing to see here move on. The British just laugh and report ” people making eye contact” on the tube etc etc…all a big laugh …ha ha BBC so funny. Which reminds me didn’t the BBC a few months ago report that police had stopped and questioned a group of black youths, only to find out they where making a drill video…oh the incompetence of the police…and openly stated that the people where laughing at the police……”it was only a group of black youths making a drill video”….Tristan that’s so funny !!
    I seem to remember that within a couple of weeks one of the “group” was murdered stabbed to death….was that funny BBC ….


    • vlad says:

      Drill is a particularly dark, violent, sinister genre, and should be banned, especially in public places. The police were right to intervene, should have jailed the lot of them, or better still deported them.


  39. Guest Who says:

    The bbc and people the bbc like saying things the bbc likes…. they think…


    • Guest Who says:

      Newsnight of course also has this professional alluder on its roster:


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        marydejevsky – complaining about “All innuendo, little news”!
        For the uninitiated MD peddles porkies for a living in The Guardian, The Independent etc.


  40. Guest Who says:

    Did Dimbles really say this?

    Brave. Not.


  41. Guest Who says:

    I wonder who pays him the most?


  42. Tabs says:

    Work begins to remove Severn toll booths on M4

    Long article about the toll booths being removed and the BBC still managed to force in an irrelevant video clip of a mix raced couple to show a black Welsh man.


  43. Deborah says:

    Toady, just before 7am, Justin in attack mode on the young women from the Advertising Authority. She was obviously there to talk about gender identity in adverts. I have my own thoughts about that (who didn’t enjoy Linda Bellingham in the Oxo adverts?j. But Justin was just plain bullying as he demanded that the Authority ban gambling adverts. The young woman was hardly going to say ‘you are right, Justin, I will get them banned today. ‘. I quite like the catchy tunes and the adverts don’t work on me as I have never placed a bet in a shop or on line in my life. I have more concern about the pay day loans. The adverts do show the rate of interest; 1400%. I had to get pen and paper out to believe what I really knew. Whatever doing without means, it is still better than taking out one of these lines.


    • Guest Who says:

      Sky really didn’t like it when I pointed out that while the venal Wonga was tanking, they were propping up Boulton’s inflated wedge running ads for them either side of the solemn ‘reporting’ about their travails.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I like the adverts where there are couples and the woman is white and the chap is black .

      I’m still waiting for DFS to do an advert with a person wearing a full Arab burka thingy .


    • Guest Who says:

      Interesting choice of family unit.


      • AsISeeIt says:

        Gender stereotypes in adverts…

        What, like all the inept males and fiesty femmes we see in adverts?


      • Northern Dreamer says:

        That gentleman smoking a pipe in front of a child, why couldn’t it be the lady smoking a pipe?


  44. Guest Who says:

    The state broadcaster:


    “her Comms Director, the discreet and low-profile former BBC news executive”



    • Guest Who says:

      That all said, ex staff are not helping.


      • lojolondon says:

        I do believe that Treason May blatantly lied to the 1922 committee – she said she would go over and fix the backstop, but the EU has always said straight that they would not renegotiate. So she lied. Again.


  45. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    The BBC give Soros favourite son – Anthony Blair – unrestricted access to the airwaves again . He knows everything – why we voted out – why we want another referendum ( to stay ) .

    This coming from a man who allowed 600000
    Poles into uk in 1 year instead of controlling immigration like the rest of the EU did .

    We don’t allow bad language on this site but would I like to use it about that xxxx


  46. thirdoption says:

    “Project Fear” still alive and well with the pathetic remainers within the MSM.

    Sky news headline this morning “Millions of Britons will have to pay £6.29 for a visa to visit Europe from 2021 due to Brexit”


    Considering they all already pay £11.50 per day to their muslim mayor for the London congestion charge I’m sure they can afford it.


  47. Tabs says:

    ‘I joined the far right at 15’

    Video about a young lad who joined a “far right” group and has now been brainwashed into only thinking Liberal thoughts.

    At 1m12s he says a teacher asked him “So how come so many people emigrate to the Britain?”.
    He replied “Because we’ve got the best benefits. That’s what got me kicked out of the classroom and referred to Prevent in the end”.

    The video then says there has been a 36% rise in the number of people referred to Prevent (the UK’s terrorism-prevention programme).

    Meanwhile in news not reported by the BBC, ISIS threaten to attack Christmas markets and 30,000 Jihadis roam free wanting to attack us.

    But knowing a young lad will no long say immigrants come to the UK for benefits make me feel safer.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      The constant attempt by the media to draw equivalence between Islamic terrorists and the “far right” isn’t just irritating. It’s downright sinister.

      However, I feel it will backfire on them. I don’t think anyone believes it and once you realise the media is lying to you about one thing… well, I suspect all of us on this site have been there.


    • Anne says:

      “The video then says there has been a 36% rise in the number of people referred to Prevent (the UK’s terrorism-prevention programme).”

      AND all this under a so-called Conservative government. In practice, it’s a social democratic party, not a conservative one.

      Time for the true Conservatives to abandon their misplaced party loyalty and form a new one – one that conserves something occasionally. Time for people like JRM, who I like in many ways, to stop being so honourable and do something bold.

      We also need to end the first-past-the-post system, it is preventing any real change (which, of course, is its intention).


  48. AsISeeIt says:

    I’ve just turned off BBC TV being less than keen to be subjected to their upcoming item – yet another report on the Suffragettes….

    Worse still primped & groomed male poodle Charlie Stayt tells me we will be hearing from women who say there is still a long way to go and apparently women still don’t have equal rights.

    Who’s kidding who?


  49. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Chrispin Blunt MP is constantly interrupted by our Justin as Mr Blunt tries to explain about the Soros project fear rubbish .

    There was the sound of panic from Justin as the editors screamed to shut Mr Blunt up .

    We won’t hear Mr Blunt on the biased airwaves .