Start the Week Open Thread 22 October 2018

The Far Left BBC quickly buried the conviction of “the Huddersfield 20 Muslim racist paedophiles” and as it does – moved quickly on . How will the BBC perform regarding the political show trial of Tommy Robinson on Tuesday ? You can bet the Muslim paedo racist gang which is the cause of TRs   brush with the law won’t feature much in this crooked country but his past will be used as the usual weapon?

With a 158 days until Brexit the remainers will be marching every weekend or looking for jobs with tax avoiders like Facebook .

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740 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 22 October 2018

  1. Guest Who says:

    Head of Diversity there, Woo P. Doo, was disappointed Nadiya could not fly out to bake it, sources close to the bbc may or may not have learned.


  2. vlad says:

    I was extremely reassured that our finest found time to go knocking on the door of the nutter who had a rant on the Ryanair flight, and I’m confident they will show the same alacrity next time I’m mugged or my daughters are raped by diverse gangs.

    It only took them a few decades to track down the Rotherham / Rochdale abusers after all.

    Makes ya proud to be British, best police force in the world.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Vlad- Elderly, white, male. Automatically a prime suspect for…well, almost anything you can find to pin on such a profile, really. Open season on that type. Conceivably he could also be wearing one of those chains, with a little cross on it? How bad can it get?
      For a media story, just think of all the virtue-signalling opportunities for weeks…
      This particular one clearly required lotsa police action, especially since they have so little else to keep them busy. I would have expected a dog squad at the very least, while SWAT teams surround the aircraft.
      Lotsa blue flashing lights all over, to make sure the media are happy.
      And to keep especially the beeb happy, a bomb squad as well, since the foulmouth may well have been carrying an explosive device–can’t be too careful after all those mailings in the US.
      And then?
      Straight into the jug, I should say, precedent has been set. For extreme criminality, like this bloke, we don’t need the Rule of Law.
      (By the way, whatever happened to that? Don’t hear much about it any more, like we used to, whenever democracy was mentioned.)


    • john in cheshire says:

      What have the hyenas done to him, told him to accept a caution? Which would mean he’ll have a criminal record.


  3. StewGreen says:

    I’ll reproduce this from a commenter in Times called Neutral Country

    it is important to point out that once upon a time the left was for the commoner.
    Some good came from that.
    Labor unions and worker protection, increased earnings, healthcare, the ground work of civil rights.

    Today, the left is becoming a sleight of hand.
    It has become the purview of savvy celebrities, and corporate PR machines.
    The left uses the language of the aggrieved in an attempt to impress upon groups their credibility about how concerned they are.
    Yet clearly the motives are for votes or subscriptions or simply audience and profit.
    How can one tell ?
    Because their language is critical; never constructive.
    They have a nightmare, but they have no dream.

    They themselves are not common. Not poor. Not from the wrong side of the tracks or wrong part of the world.
    To them the truly common person is a deplorable.

    So yes, in some ways, the new left has more in common with Marie Antoinette than Marx.
    To my mind we need a return to genuine political compassion not tell me ‘what you want to hear me say on Twitter about politics’.


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Thank you for your excellent post. As an erstwhile (almost) lifelong gullible leftist,it articulates precisely why I am now a “right wing bigot.”
      (as if left wing bigots are a complete impossibility.)
      Viva Mother Nature!


  4. taffman says:

    Al Beeb tells us ……………“Brexit: ‘Fairer share’ of UK fish promised”
    Surely we should get the share that we had before we joined the Common Market after we leave?


    • theisland says:


      Fishing for Leave have released a statement urging caution.

      May still proposes to re-obey the CFP after Brexit with an ever-extending transition and a ‘Common Rule book.’

      The Transition would allow the EU to enforce detrimental rules to cull the UK fleet. This would allow the EU to use Article 62.2 of UNCLOS to claim Britain’s ‘surplus’ resources a shrunken British fleet wouldn’t be able to catch.

      Also the government admits this bill is subject to the ‘wider negotiations’.


      • taffman says:

        it appears that we are being sold down the river? I urge all Tory voters who voted to leave to enrol as member of UKIP. The present Tory ‘wets’ are worse than usless.


  5. Guest Who says:

    Not saying the MSM is now beyond hope, but…


  6. quisquose says:

    Anybody else hear the trailers on R4 for a programme they are running next Monday?

    The Democrats Dilemma: Now What

    The tone is so obviously the Democrats are OUR people what do WE need to do?

    They’re past caring about impartiality now.


  7. MarkyMark says:

    BBC News – @20:09 … “… these are scenes America woke up to, on that looked like old footage from Iraq, BUT which were real time images from a postal facility.”

    “looked like old footage from Iraq” – bomb squad man walking calmly to suspect bomb down a street that did not look like Iraq.

    BUT – everything before BUT is BOLLOCKS.


  8. MarkyMark says:

    Dear BBC £3.5 billion paid under threat of prison complaints department,

    Could you revisit the 2009 UK MP expenses again, I would not like to find out that MPs like Tony Blair have ran to the shredder prior to your investigations.

    Here are some details, can you use Journalists who are avoiding the BBC Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker Pay Gap and see why an MP on £77K salary tops up their money with a job giving them £65K extra a year.

    Maybe find other MPs on such amazing schemes and why they are getting free tickets to concerts when they have so much cash sloshing around in their MP expenses accounts.

    Chuka Umunna MP, Streatham (tax payer pays him £77K per year) is being paid £65,040 a year Advisory Position at Global Progress (London) Ltd …

    1) Look into what he produces for £65K a year.
    2) Look at who owns the company and other players – Tony Blair is linked to it.
    3) Find other MPs doing the same.
    4) Ensure they are paying taxes on the extra money.
    5) Maybe interview them and ask some questions rather than how they feel today?

    For a head start you can find the details on :



    Good luck and let me know how you get on,
    Mr. H

    p.s. I also see that MPs claim their MP Office BBC TV Licenses Tax on their expenses, thus the UK tax payer has to pay their own TV License and their MP’s TV License. Might want to consider stopping this for the 650 MPs.


  9. vlad says:

    Daily Mail editorial on the Hypocrisy of the BBC. Enjoy!

    “WHEN it comes to preaching against sex discrimination, tax-dodging or the shocking lack of transparency in public life, there’s no one more self-righteous than the BBC.
    Yet a devastating report by an all-party group of MPs finds that, on all three charges, the Corporation is itself a serial offender. indeed, the hypocrisy exposed by the Commons culture committee is nothing less than breathtaking.

    On the gender pay gap, the MPs find an ‘invidious’ and ‘opaque’ crony culture at the BBC has led to scores of women being paid less than men who do comparable jobs.

    On tax, they say many presenters have been ‘disgracefully’ coerced into channelling their pay through highly questionable personal service companies (PSCs). these are estimated to have cost the taxman tens of millions of pounds, while allowing the BBC to cut its national insurance bills and escape its responsibilities over sick leave, holidays and maternity pay.

    As for staff pushed to set up PSCs, they were initially able to cut their tax bills by thousands of pounds a year. But now they are subject to a HMRC investigation, with some facing six-figure bills for unpaid tax.
    Meanwhile BBC bosses – those great champions of openness (except when it comes to their own conduct) – have been found to have cynically exploited a loophole, allowing them to avoid declaring stars’ salaries by paying them through the commercial arm, BBC Studios.

    Just a word of caution about the MPs’ recommendations. is it too much to hope that in closing the gender pay gap, the Corporation will stop overpaying men – instead of overpaying women too? it’s only our money, after all.”


    • taffman says:

      Does Lord Tony Hall actually watch the programmes broadcast by the BBC TV? Does he pay the Licence Fee?
      Over to you Lord Hall………………..


    • StewGreen says:

      Shows how lefty the Daily Mail have gone.
      .. That they just accept that there is a genuine general pay gap.


      • BRISSLES says:

        I wonder if the D/Mail has undergone a management change. (I’ve been a reader for decades because a) the broadsheets are a ‘faff’, and b) the redtops are more like comics.) The Mail has always been to the centre right, but in recent months there has been a distinct dumbing down of stories, and am beginning to feel that the editorial content is overseen by children, who prefer celebrity news rather than anything that has an intellectual label. Or is it just me ? and the whole world is on a dumbing down mission.


  10. StewGreen says:

    A couple more comments from the Times Aaronovitch article

    If we believe in Diversity should we not be focussing on countries where it is an issue.
    .. Like for example increasing the number of churches in countries where they are few.
    …(now where would that be ?)


    Diversity for us but not for you, in other words.

    Libertarians believe that in general you should be allowed to think and act as YOU choose.

    Liberals believe that in general you should be allowed to think and act as THEY choose.


    • StewGreen says:

      My own two comments are stuck in a greyed out state with “pending” ..written across them
      been 3 hours now

      #1 DA says ” Tommy Robinson poses as a champion of free speech while anti-racism activists vilify me for wanting to debate diversity”

      ha free the Times is for free speech ?
      : Note Times articles about TR no longer have open comments.
      likewise neither do the similar hit pieces cutNpasted from HnH that appear in other newspapers

      #2 Is diversity the problem ?
      Isn’t it rather CONFORMITY to lib-supremacist, values ?
      (pseudo-liberal actually)
      The weekend saw the London march of hundred thousand plus lib-supremacists, who sneered at the lowly 17.2 million who voted for Brexit.
      Whether it’s media or main political parties it’s metro lib-supremacists who are in control
      … and we lowly provincials have to tug our forelocks by joining in the virtue signalling
      …. otherwise we too get pilloried.


      • StewGreen says:

        This morning they allowed my comments on
        seems libmob maliciously press the Report button, knowing that is the quick way to delete anti-lib comments for 12 hours.


  11. TrickCyclist says:

    On BBC News at Six tonight there was an item on the release of new Western video game Red Dead Redemption 2, with reporter Marc Cieslak. Never heard of him before and was hoping he’d look like a live-action version of The Simpsons’ Moe Szyslak – but no such luck, he turns out to be another bearded, Asian-looking gentleman on the BBC.
    Cieslak visits makers Rockstar Games in Edinburgh and to underline the economic importance of the industry, CGI bar charts erupt volcanically out of the ground in front of the National Monument of Scotland.
    Now, I’m not a Gamer so this ‘story’ doesn’t mean much to me but apparently Red Dead 2 is a big deal in terms of scope, playability etc.
    Cieslak interviews Rockstar’s Rob Nelson and the talk turns to how much work went into the game – with creators and programmers in four different countries – Hello, I think to myself, something’s coming, isn’t it? Sure enough, quicker than you can joggle a toggle, up pops a female talking head to warn us that in future – Brexit, talent, difficulties, blah-blah-blah. . .

    PS, had a look on the BBC website to see if this ‘news story’ was on there but could only find a Newsbeat video interview with Rob Nelson, conducted by another BBCer, a young Welshman. The Beeb’s not short of reporters, is it?
    What I found interesting about this is that at 3:09 Nelson refers to Grand Theft Auto’s “tons of different modes” – or as the BBC’s subtitle has it, the metric ”Tonnes.”

    FFS, even a cursory glance at the most minor of news stories on the Beeb throws up a slew of their mores and prejudices.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Just saw that on the news at 10. The silly female was going on about how uncertain immigration rules meant it was difficult to hire the right talent.

      It’s computer programming. You don’t need to come to this country to do that work, surely? It can all be done remotely.


  12. taffman says:

    According to Al Beeb…………..
    “London university calls for £100m slavery reparation” how about London ‘Uni’ students getting a real job and coughing up some cash out of their own pockets then?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Taffman I’d like to apply for compensation on behalf of my grandfather who spent the 4 years of The Great War in France being subjected to daily hate crimes ….
      Somehow despite him being 6 foot tall he survived and only got wounded once and was left permanently deaf from the shelling …

      It’s funny how the kidult ‘ mind ‘ works – often I think some idiot comes up with an idea and no one with any sense has the confidence to challenge it – so it becomes mad groupthink – same goes for taking down statues and banning this and that


      • Lefty Wright says:

        Dear Mr Fed, It is with deep regret that I have to inform you that,under present EU law ,if you are an old,or middle aged, white, heterosexual male Brexiteer, it gladdens me to inform you that you do not currently meet the EC requirements for a claim. However,should you wish to pursue this matter further you have the right, as bestowed on you by Mr Jean Claude Wanker & Co, to appeal to the British Parliament if you really insist on being told to fuck right off. Anon.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      taffman – That’s an interesting one, really. When you start looking at history real deep like, it’s astonishing who turn out to be the biggest slavers (compared to the favorite narrative) and how many candidates there are for that title. Even more surprising when you find out (compared to the favorite narrative) who many of the victims were…
      Then again, I suppose looking at history real deep is a bit much to expect from ‘students’.


  13. Beltane says:

    Perhaps only BBC Scotland could produce a program – ‘One Hundred Days to Victory’ – on WWI and the 1918 Aisne offensive which seemed based entirely on the parts played by Scottish regiments, Australians, Canadians, French and Americans. Other than the Tank Corps, the RFC and General Haig we were evidently elsewhere.


  14. taffman says:

    According to Al Beeb…………….
    “SAS: Women allowed to join for first time”
    Will the SAS have to ‘adapt’ their entry fitness test?


    • Anne says:

      As my other half said: Should bring entirely new meaning to “the fan dance”.

      He had to explain it.


      • Lefty Wright says:

        Yeah.Pull the other one mate. It’s got a plastic knee cap. Ouch! Not so bloody rough.


    • gb123 says:

      I remember an old article which had a headline about SAS south Downs sheep rolling over cattle grids to escape. That kind of initiative deserves a crack at joining the SAS in the name of diversity. I couldn’t find the original but here’s an old BBC page referencing something similar.


  15. Anne says:

    Just watched the film “Apostasy”.

    No, silly, of course it’s not about them.

    I groaned when the BBC logo came up. 90 minutes of depression about Jehovah’s Witnesses. Does the British film industry actually make anything that more than 10 people are prepared to pay for these days?

    By “British film industry”, I mean stuff actually conceived here, not farmed out by US companies, good though that is.


  16. davylars says:

    On BBC Radio Newcastle this morning we had our finest north east hacks Saint Anna Foster and the Reverend Alfie Joey reporting on the controversial American TV presenter posing with dead goats after hunting in the the Isle of Islay.
    Whilst I do personally find this sort of thing repugnant, they managed to take it to another level allowing virtually every tree hugger vegetarian in the north east to phone in and question why we have to eat meat anyway, although this report was supposed to be about hunting.
    Of course , Saint Anna Foster is a vegetarian, so she was in her element. But strangely sprang to the defence when somebody mentioned the cruelty of halal butchering. “We have just done some research on this” she proudly announced. And 84% of the animals slaughtered for halal are stunned before they are killed so it’s not a problem.”……..
    Errr, Anna, what about the other 16%?
    The stupidity of this woman sometimes amazes me…


  17. Guest Who says:

    Anthony surely would be happier with CNN, or over here at Sky?


  18. StewGreen says:

    Trump tweets he agrees with Obama


  19. Guest Who says:

    ITTB has a few excellent new posts. As one with a particular interest in the bbc fact checking presumptions, here’s one a small blog manages full of checked facts, vs. the… ‘efforts’ of a 20,000 strong, £4,000,000,000 unaccountable propaganda machine:


  20. vlad says:

    I am delighted to read that the insane Sinead O’Connerie has converted to Islam.

    A match made in heaven, they richly deserve each other.

    And as if to prove her insanity, she posted to fans: “This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada.”



    • vlad says:

      But it gets even better:

      DM: “Sinead has had a complicated relationship with Catholic Church in the past, not least when she tore up a photo of the Pope on live TV to protest about child sex abuse.”

      Let me repeat that: TO PROTEST ABOUT CHILD SEX ABUSE!!


      Who said she doesn’t have a sense of humour?


      • Guest Who says:

        Shuda hada a look in the mirra.


      • Lefty Wright says:

        Oh dear ,oh dear, oh dear, oh POXY FUCKING DEAR! Thus, would my old workmate of 45 years ago express his adverse feelings. What more can anyone meaningfully say ? By the way Fed, does my post merit 2 yellow cards or just one red one? Is it one sin per card or can I fuck and blind as much as I like on just the one card? Bare in mind that I am a werkin’ clarss moron wiv werkin’ clarss figgers o’ speech. Would it ‘elp me case if i sed I was black or female or boaf or maybe a dunno or a ginger beer or a four by two, or I’m obese cos I’m a victim of food? Confusin’ ‘innit?


    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Yes this is obviously a big story for the Beeb – though perhaps not for the rest of the world.

      Front page billing no less on the website
      Sinéad O’Connor converts to Islam

      Start the Week Open Thread 22 October 2018


    • MarkyMark says:

      Red pill …

      Inside Janet Jackson’s Billion-Dollar Divorce: Singer Tired of Being the ‘Obedient Muslim Wife’

      The pop icon’s five-year marriage to Qatari businessman Wissam Al Mana reportedly ended over his control issues, and she could be receiving as much as $200 million from the split.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I feel sorry for her. This is another stage in her long mental decline. Sadly, it is one which she will never be allowed to escape from, on pain of death. Enjoy your new religion, Shuhada.


  21. taffman says:

    Harribin tells us that sea level will rise by 1M because of climate change. Well he better tell India, China , India, Russia , and The USA .


    • Sluff says:

      Intersting obituary in the Telegraph yesterday.
      One David Henderson, ex OECD head of economics,
      Started as a Keynsian then saw the light and became a free market liberal.
      Described as ‘ a critic of the sort of policy making which prizes virtue signalling over economic efficiency’. Mmmmm, sounds like our sort of guy.
      He, along with Ian Castles, ex head of the Australian Bureau of Statistics had strong ideas as to how the IPCC got it wrong in 2001.
      Basically the IPCC- accepted economic predictions that were deeply flawed on two counts. One by assuming developing nations like North Korea and Libya would surpass the USA in terms of standard of living!!!!!! And two, by using the wrong exchange rates (based on marlet rates not purchasing power parity) for purposes of comparison.
      The effect was to overestimate greenhouse gases by a factor of 3-4.
      Something our Mr Harrabin may have overlooked.
      Although to be fair, under the BBC climate change guidelines, he doesn’t have to overlook them, he can just ignore them.


  22. Guest Who says:

    Bbc morning email:

    Bomb probe

    Investigators from the FBI hunting for the culprit behind a series of suspected mail bombs have searched a post office near Miami. Unnamed officials have told US media they believe at least one was sent from Florida. On Thursday, actor Robert de Niro and Vice President Joe Biden became the latest high-profile people to receive them.

    All eight recipients so far are vocal opponents of President Trump. He has responded by calling for more civility in politics, but that’s drawn snorts of derision from some. Former CIA director John Brennan – who’s one of those targeted – tweeted to Mr Trump: “Look in the mirror. Your inflammatory rhetoric, insults, lies, & encouragement of physical violence are disgraceful.” Here’s everything we know so far about the mail bombs.


    ‘Unnamed officials’. Snorts.

    You know nothing, BBC.


  23. theisland says:

    Why is Treezer still in place?
    Why is the bBC still operating?


  24. Guest Who says:

    Surprised it wasn’t ‘Asian, female, keen golfer (not South Korean), with short hair’ award.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Why does Asian only apply to India and Pakistan in the UK? Asia includes 49 countries…so any Chinese on the short list? Certainly not on the BBC or the Judges panel


    • BRISSLES says:

      Who were the others in the running ? Nadya ? Anita Rani ? Ore Oduba ? Dion Dublin ? the list is endless.


  25. MarkyMark says:

    Western World offered a novel … Satanic Verses .. Islam replied with death.

    Western World offered a cartoon … Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten .. Islam replied with death.

    Western World offered a film … Submission .. Islam replied with death.

    Western World offered a word … Islamophobia .. Islam used it to hid terrorists (22 Lost In Manchester).

    Western World offered their slaughter houses … Halal … Islam replied with everything must be Islamic or nothing.

    Western World offered a capital City … London … Islam thanked them by shouting at the leader of the largest economy in the democratic free World.

    Western World offered a singer … Janet Jackson … Islam treated her with distain and she left the repressive religion.

    Western World offered to dress all its women in chains … #WorldHijabDay … Islam replied with everything must be Islamic or nothing.

    Western World offered a voice in media … BAME Quotas … Islam bans Peppa Pig and hides the nasty acts of Mohammed.

    Western World offered a hand in friendship … 1750 Mosques in UK … Islam chops it off and asks for the other hand as the West bows.



  26. Guest Who says:

    Oh, Dan.

    Dan makes Alistair Campbell look sensible.


    • MarkyMark says:

      1765 …. **In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one ’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right.** They may use a pen or their voice, and should not be prevented from writing any more than speaking …That is the law in England, a monarchical country, where people are freer than elsewhere because they are more enlightened. – Voltaire, Republican Ideas, 1765


  27. MarkyMark says:

    It’s in interesting watching out for omission. The BBC usually praise British Asian Islamic Muslims for being brave and wearing a hijab.

    Recently the BBC had Janet Jackson on who was selling her latest contribution to the echo chamber of music. What I noticed is that when converting to Islam the papers were all over it (not the BBC), but NOT ONCE did the BBC ask her about leaving the religion of peace (she left because it was regressive to women) or how her religious side had influenced her work whilst being Islamic but not being an Islamic Apostate (leaver).

    Did the BBC not mention Janet Jackson’s leaving Islam because it would endanger her life?

    Did the BBC not mention Janet Jackson’s religious Islam experience because it was a bad one rather than a positive one?

    . . . .

    BBC no mention of Janet Jackson converting to Islam (may have been removed) …

    BBC talk to Janet Jackson but did not mention Islam (that I heard) on interviews.


    BBC are prasing up Sinead O’Connor at the moment ..


    She has said that her decision was “the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey” and uploaded a video of herself singing the adhan, or Islamic call to prayer.

    1. Islam asks for one simple thing. Islam asks for everything – finance, religion, police, morals, schools, law, food, science, clothes, art and your body to be Islamic.


    • Up2snuff says:

      MM, at least Sinead looks a bit happier in the new photo that the Beeb are using today!

      Yesterday’s was not a good advert for Islam.


  28. MarkyMark says:

    2018 … the greatest politician of the year … YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP ….


    David Lammy – Politician
    David Lammy is a backbench MP who has never failed this year to stand up and be counted. It was his powerful Trafalgar Square speech that perfectly captured protesters’ righteous fury. When the government wrongly marked thousands for deportation in the Windrush scandal, he shook the walls of Westminster decrying the “national day of shame” it had brought upon ourselves. And in the wake of the Grenfell Tower tragedy, he has fought endlessly, tirelessly, furiously, for justice.


  29. Roland Deschain says:

    Not the BBC, but relevant, I think.

    Nick Ferrari on LBC took a call this morning from someone who reckoned the Democrats were behind the letter bombs. Mr Ferrari made constant snarky remarks over him.

    Later, he took another call from someone who listed many cases of left wing nastiness towards Trump. All things everyone here will be aware of. In fairness, Mr F seemed to take the point, but what I found astounding was that he professed not to have known about any of these. It demonstrates what a bubble even supposedly right wing journalists live in, that someone of his seniority did not know, and did not have the journalistic curiosity to find out.

    Yet I still doubt he understands why we distrust the MSM so much.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Good point, RD.

      Isn’t it amazing, more information around than ever before, access easier – despite Library closures – than ever before, and memory and being fully informed and ‘street smart’, more restricted among certain people groups than ever before?


    • john in cheshire says:

      I regularly remind myself that the likes of Mr Ferrari are entertainers. That’s all they are, and entertainers don’t have to know anything as long as they bring in the audience. It’s the same with that other LBC leftwing idiot, the wee J’Obby.

      The problem for us, the public at large, is that they, just like the far-left bbc entertainers, are able to fool a lot of us into thinking they know anything about anything and that they know what they are talking about.


  30. MarkyMark says:

    The truth about Muhammad and Aisha
    Innocence of Muslims repeated the claim Muhammad was a paedophile, but the story is more complex and interesting than that



  31. Up2snuff says:

    BBC anxious last night and today to uphold ‘the freedom of the press’ and the importance of openness with regard to a certain businessman.



  32. Guest Who says:

    OT but one from the ‘well, it’s something they might have said’ Bbc Skool of reporterising…


  33. Guest Who says:

    Steve should soon be interviewing Shouda Couda…


  34. Guest Who says:

    The BBC and ‘views their own’ that end up…. vanishing…


  35. StewGreen says:

    The order of events
    #1 the BBC’s environmental journalists are green campaigners and so fail to ask questions about the green agenda.
    #2 green NGOs lobby hard for things using billionaire’s cash, but the BBC doesn’t allow critics of the green agenda to speak.

    then #3 BBC Radio makes a prog :
    “Why are criminal gangs getting involved in organised waste dumping?
    Is it the ‘new narcotics’?
    And how are communities and the authorities coping with this growing illicit trade? ”


    • StewGreen says:

      Today BBC is giving masses of free PR to Lord Deben’s Committee on Climate Change sea level report
      FFS that committee is a travesty to science, cos they are a group of wacky activists with vested business interests
      It needs proper scrutiny, not free PR but BBC Look North tonight will use the traditional MO I mentioned above and turn up the alarmism to 11


  36. Up2snuff says:

    Jonathan Dimbleby trailed tonight’s Any Questions programme (R4, 8.02pm) on TOADY at 8.30am.

    He gave details of the Panel and in two cases used the opportunity to be negative about Brexit.


    No bias there, from the Chair, then?


  37. Guest Who says:

    Vince agrees with Nick… on how to get quoted on the bbc:


    • john in cheshire says:

      Isn’t what Mr Cable is doing, and the rest of those he hangs around with, called treating with the enemy? Isn’t that treason? Or perhaps sedition, because it’s purpose is to undermine our government?

      Why aren’t these traitors being named in Parliament and held to account? This is orders of magnitude more important than Mr Green’s behaviour, yet they get away with it. Having said that, it comes as no surprise that it’s Mr Hain who is using Mr Green as a means to have a little publicity of his own; I suppose it’s more comfortable for him than digging up cricket pitches.


  38. Synchronised says:

    I would have thought Lord Hain would have better things to do than making his profile bigger by way of his announcement. Surely South Africa needs him now more than ever.


    • ID says:

      It is interesting to compare the pious piffle and weasly apologetics used to explain away Hain’s contempt of court and comments prejucidical to any future trial of Green for alleged sexual assault and Tommy Robinson’s supposed endangerment of the trial of muslim child rapists by approaching them outside court. Why they were out on bail is the biggest mystery of all as you would think victim intimidation or skipping bail to Pakistan would be likely. Hain is obviously persuing a personal vendetta against a hate figure of the left.
      Strangely, no mention of Hain’s criminal record, when the media are so keen to go through TR’s “rap sheet”

      “Conspiracy conviction
      Francis Bennion, Budleigh Salterton, Devon12:01AM GMT 03 Mar 2002
      I WONDER why your (GUARDIAN) profile of Peter Hain, with its emphasis on his “immense charm”, did not mention that in 1972 he was convicted of criminal conspiracy to disrupt the 1969 Davis Cup between Britain and South Africa after an Old Bailey trial (Opinion, February 24)?

      When he appealed in 1973, the three Court of Appeal judges dismissed his application with costs. The court said that his conviction was “fully justified”. Lord Justice Roskill said Hain had not elected to give evidence, adding “he gave no explanation of his part over the incidents with which he was charged”.

      If this man is being spoken of as a future Cabinet Minister surely your readers are entitled to be told of his criminal record.”

      I was surprised that Hain accepted his elevation because of his life-long opposition to the unelected House of Zombies.

      Strange how so many privately educated, leftist, men of the people end up as Lords. All those principles, all those values, all those moral lectures!


      • StewGreen says:

        Yes @ID surely the parallels between Peter Hain and Tommy Robinson’s cases are obvious to all .
        – The Phillip Green court cases had been before judges who ruled there should be Reporting Restrictions.
        Peter Hain took it on himself to break that ruling and therefore make a change to the court cases.
        Possibly damaging the allegers court cases, cos Green can just shout that there’s a witch hunt.
        (/Personally I am not ready to persecute P Green, hes entitled to due process like anyone else, it is not like that process has finished yet.)
        – Whereas TR tried to obey the principal that nothing inside the court should be reported unless already in the public domain.
        Lee Hurst is there, and therefore not on the BBC


        • StewGreen says:

          @ID ah it was OK to name Philip Green cos he is white

          …it would be different if he were brown.


  39. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Express headline saying petition to stop the people’s vote has tens of thousands very quickly signed but there’s no link.
    Googled it but couldn’t find the link.
    U.K. govt. petitions, can’t find link.

    Anybody here got the link so that I can sign it.


  40. BRISSLES says:

    Anything that takes the Royal Tour off the headline news is ok with me.


  41. MarkyMark says:

    Labour’s Best Politicians 2018 … award winning … criminal investigation avoiding …Lammy & Keith




  42. MarkyMark says:

    As Sinead converts to Islam …. let’s listen to other famous Islamists praise Islam …

    “I’m a Muslim, my religion teaches me not to hurt people (Khan is a boxer) or upset people, and to be a good person. Obviously I go into the boxing ring it’s my job to hit someone, so that doesn’t rally matter (hurting people). I know I’ve got God on my side … ” – Amir Iqbal Khan {nov2014}

    p.s. Never mention Yemen where two version of Islam fight for peace.


  43. Sluff says:

    Just a thought on the scaremongering about the closure of Calais in a no deal Brexit, heavily featured by the BBC.
    As anyone who has caught a Eurotunnel or ferry will testify, Brits outnumber the French on these services by at least 5 to 1.
    Given these Brits are visiting France, it is reasonable to suppose they will spend some money over there. So to close the port will hurt France far more than the UK economically, although it will be more frustrating short term, for travelling UK citizens than French ones. We could always travel somewhere else, of course.
    That said, the Eurofanatics may well be uninterested in a loss of business to France where the EU project is concerned and where ‘teaching the UK a lesson’ is the prime consideration over rational economics.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Apparently after brexit the cheese eating surrender monkeys won’t be send us their cheeses anymore or putting up prices . Excellent .

      We need a ‘buy british ‘ campaign as soon as we get out of the EU Reich as well boycotting the krauts and others who have cost us so much . We need a EU citizen residence tax as well


  44. Sluff says:

    Given that we can fully trust the BBC, our fine impartial broadcaster, I have concluded from their coverage that racially abusing someone on a Ryanair flight is far more serious than the systematic rape and abuse of white girls by Huddersfield paedo gangs predominantly of a certain religion.
    Thank goodness for the BBC, otherwise I might have been misinformed.


  45. MarkyMark says:

    From the BBC … We do not aim to denigrate any view or to promote any view on this issue. Our goal is simply to provide our audience with enough information in order that they can draw their own conclusions.

    Reference CAS-5140930-F0KJ8D

    Thank you for contacting us regarding BBC News.

    I understand you are unhappy that our coverage of Brexit has not asked questions about the need for an “itemised EU £39bn Divorce Bill.”

    Firstly, let me assure you that impartiality is central to all of our news and current affairs reporting and we ensure all our presenters and production teams are aware of this to help us deliver fair and balanced coverage for all the stories we report.

    We have devoted extensive coverage to the issue of the so-called ‘divorce bill’ in our reporting on the Brexit negotiations. Examples of some of the articles featured on the BBC News website can be found below:

    The BBC does not have an opinion on the European Union or on the United Kingdom’s relationship with it. In the period since the referendum in June 2016, we have tried to explore and explain the often complex factors which affect our audience and we have provided representatives from across the political spectrum with the opportunity to air their views.

    We do not aim to denigrate any view or to promote any view on this issue. Our goal is simply to provide our audience with enough information in order that they can draw their own conclusions.

    Nevertheless, I would like to assure you that we value your feedback. All complaints are sent to senior management and programme makers every morning and we included your points in our overnight reports. These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future output.

    Thank you once again for getting in touch.

    Kind regards

    Terry Hughes

    BBC Complaints Team


  46. countryblues says:

    BBC2 : The 100 days offensive Part 1.

    I won’t be watching Part 2…I thought it was bloody awful! It seems only the Scots, Australians, Canadians, French and eventually Americans took part in this action.

    I’m fairly well-read on WWI affairs and didn’t recognise precisely this particular account of events. It’s almost as if they had an agenda… 🙁


  47. countryblues says:

    BBC QT…

    Having agreed between them at the start that bullying is unacceptable that’s exactly what the rest of the panel and Dimly did to Andrea Jenkyns…couldn’t they see the irony? The ghastly Lisa Nandy was allowed free rein to vent her poison…Sheesh! 🙁


  48. StewGreen says:

    8pm BBC Radio 4’s Any Questions live from Middlesbrough.
    with UKIP Leader GerardBattenMEP
    – GMB General Secretary Tim Roach
    – @Anna_Soubry alleged Tory
    – Labour MP Caroline Flin
    – Green MPpet Jonathan Dimbleby


  49. Synchronised says:

    Beeb website informing us a couple of gay Penguins have had a baby. FFS. Better warn the rest of the animal kingdom that gender reassignment is on its way.


  50. MarkyMark says:

    On the same day that Ireland is finally voting to take blasphemy laws out of its constitution, the ECHR seems determined to put them back in…



    “Christopher Hitchens “Islam is Bullshit and I am Offended”