Weekend Open Thread 15 September 2018

So predictably the BBC aids and abets the rabid Project Fear to stop Brexit. It is not hard to see the constant bias and we can be comforted that the Great British public see it too.

Battle of Britain Day . Lest We Forget.

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345 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 15 September 2018

  1. theisland says:


  2. RJ says:

    Could someone from Veterans for Britain explain why so many muslim women were Royal Navy flash hoods?


  3. Fedup2 says:

    The island
    Remainers will be aware of this and happy with it. It’s what’ the ever closer union ‘ is all about . If we stay in a unified tax code , unified legal system , single currency , constitution and ReichEU president, will be part of the future of Blighty .

    If we get out and prosper – others will follow as they won’t accept the third world in the way we have been forced to by snowflake politicians .


    • theisland says:

      We also hear little or nothing from so-called Leave MPs.
      Bloody useless.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Sopel on the al beeb 6pm news perkier than in a long time at the prospect of a former employee of President Trump making a statement regarding the Russians.

        2years in and the far Left BBC and the American snowflakes still can’t come to terms with democracy.


        • pugnazious says:

          He’s not so perky or indeed interested at all in the revelation that Cohen lied about Trump knowing about the meeting in Trump Tower and has no evidence of that, or in the revelation that that meeting was probably set up by the Democrats who knew the Russians and had a tangled relationship between them and Fusion GPS who produced the dodgy dossier for them. Two huge counter-narratives to the BBC line about Trump/Russians that Sopel seems to want to ignore.


        • Beeb Brother says:

          Do they not think it looks extremely bad prosecuting political opponents for trumped up crimes? This is just the sort of filth Putin engages in.

          Brexit and Trump have really shown the elites for how vicious they really are beneath this veneer of decency and tolerance.


      • Oaknash says:

        Island – I sort of get the idea that Tory “leave” MPs are quite happy to sit on the sidelines and throw stones but in reality do very little to rid us of this Jackal in Leopard skin heels.

        JRM iS still offering this ghastly traitor his full support despite it becoming more obvious by the day that we have all been set up by the EU, TM and the MSM and especially the BBC to have low expectations. The negotiations are no more than a panto – I wish I was wrong but fear I am not.

        TM talks a little tougher yet still seems to back down and accept the EU position whether it is protecting our fishermen or control of our armed forces.

        The old adage “actions speak louder than words ” has never been truer than now.


    • Scroblene says:

      “If we get out and prosper – others will follow as they won’t accept the third world in the way we have been forced to by snowflake politicians”.

      Absolutely, Fed! But that was the real reason why concerned citizens gave the thumbs down to the appallingly corrupt EU, with idiots like waffling Kinnock troughing away, and nasty lounge lizards like Mandelson, and evil, despised liars like Bliar spending millions to get reasonable people to vote to stay, and never even realising that we’d all had enough treachery for this older generation. Snowflakes go figure…

      Less than 200 days now, and the BBC will be pissing their little knickers trying to get schoolchildren like Owain Jawnes, and farcical shriekers like Alibaii Brownies – whatever his name is to get their silly faces on a screen – any screen, or in front of a mic – even one switched on for the sake of the cameras – to dribble inanities.

      Suck it all up lefties, sjws, snowflakes bbbc, sky – not long now before you’re toast!


    • john in cheshire says:

      This man, Coudenhove-Kalergi, has a lot to answer for with regards to what the miscreants in charge of the EU and the UK and other English speaking Nations are doing to us. His main proposal is to replace the white race with a hybrid race as a result of miscegenation and/ or total replacement.

      That’s what is being done and this man and his warped ideas are a significant instigator of the mass migration policies:



  4. pugnazious says:

    You’ve gotta laugh as the BBC slowly, or rapidly, sideline the somewhat significant story about the Electoral Commission’s cock-up from a main story on the frontpage to the sidebar to make way for a report on ‘World Afro Day: ‘Why I love my natural hair’…
    World Afro Day, celebrated on 15 September, was founded to celebrate “change, education and celebration” of natural hairstyles amongst black and mixed-race women.

    Here’s the thing…no white person gives a toss whether a Black person has natural curly hair or straightens it or whatever. It’s one of those fake ‘issues’ that the racist race baiters in the Black community want to whip up to justify their own existence and the BBC is there for them.

    No doubt Nike will be making some new ads soon….some new sneakers…‘Nike Hair’…in many colours.

    I suppose hair is important…just ask Diane Abbott who would rather talk hair than about her support for terrorism and cheerleading ‘defeating the British’.

    Curious the BBC not making much of Thornberry’s reassertion that Labour will vote down any and all Brexit deals in order to force an election…talk about opportunistic politics putting party before national interest…or don’t talk about it if you’re a Beeboid.

    So two big Brexit stories that go against the BBC grain and they either ignore them or downplay and spin them to their own agenda.If the Electoral Commission had been found to be operating correctly and Vote Leave therefore confirmed to be in the wrong the BBC would have been trumpeting this from the rooftops for days with endless chatter. Wonder just how much discussion this will get on Newsnight and Today.


  5. BRISSLES says:

    Having read with interest all the column inches on Serena Williams outburst, my mind went back to other ladies of colour who had public meltdowns : Diana Ross at Heathrow, Naomi Campbell threw a phone at a maid, Grace Jones attacked Russell Harty, and Rhianna isn’t fussy who she shouts at. Seems like a pattern !


    • Scroblene says:

      Brissles, normal people, like us here, don’t really give a toss about what all those so-called slebs say, we always ignore them and carry on doing what Brits do – keep calm and think of pruning the roses or making a macaroni cheese…

      You’re right about the pattern, and it’s not really any worry here, especially as the bbbc would think it was important; which it isn’t!

      Any shrieking sleb gets zilch interest in this particular household!


    • Guest Who says:


      • Dover Sentry says:

        Remember how the Religion of Peace became offended by a cartoon?


        • oldcrone says:

          Dover …offended ?? Committed unmitigated murder .. Charlie Hebdo. Our MSM forgets so quickly these atrocities against the freedom to disagree.


    • Anne says:

      I’d add Kathleen Battle (dismissed by the Metropolitan Opera for “unprofessional actions that were profoundly detrimental to the artistic collaboration among all cast members”) and unfortunately, Jessye Norman, who at least knows how to behave most of the time.

      And all this during a period when, generally speaking, divas have been becoming less diva-like and more professional. It’s what happens when people are given protected victim status and allowed to believe that they can do no wrong. It’s a bad idea for children, and even worse for childish adults.



    • R P McMurphy says:

      If it were a male sporting big muscles and throwing a rage then he would probably have been accused of another type of rage. Seems to have been missed by her defenders.
      Are they drug tested after a match ?


  6. NISA says:

    Poor ITN Washington man, Robert Moore (the daddy of the now much copied arm waving delivery). He has been sent out to stand in the wind & rain in the Carolinas. Can’t see the Grand Poobah Sopel accepting a trip beyond the Beltway.


  7. Nibor says:

    BBC ,

    Now ask the EUreopean Commision , the Remoaners like Soubry , and LibDims ;
    Why can’t the EU save jobs all round , there and here , trade on with us as best as possible and realise we aren’t just any third country to the project
    We will do without all the benefits that you say are to come , your EUro army , one foreign policy , even closer union , tax policy etc .
    As you “progress ” to a United States of Europe we will just have to sigh as we miss out on your glory .
    Unless you don’t think your project is man kinds answer to everything .


  8. Guest Who says:

    Netflix will still be panicking.


    Once they find out what a bee bee sea is.


  9. Richard Pinder says:

    Two different worlds:

    (1) The BBC’s moronic & loony Orwellian World of Censorship:

    An interpretation of what W1A moron, Frans Unsworth, means. She means “We must keep off the BBC all those causational climate scientists who deny that the climate changes, especially if they deny that Hull City lost or won a football match. Also we must censor the existence of all those scientists who want to close down the Church of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Also beware of the FALSE GOD of balance between the BBC’s environmental activists and those climate scientists who deny the doctrine of the Church of the IPCC. The BBC is offering staff new training for this propaganda. Gaia be with you, Kumbaya my Lord” Frans Unsworth. https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/set-in-stone-the-bbcs-climate-change-bias

    (2) The latest Pamphlet on Climate Change from Mensa members:

    Since 2009, many scientists have proven that Carbon Dioxide induced Climate Change is as President Trump has said “A Hoax”. In 2009 the scientist Gerhard Gerlich proved directly the “Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics“. Further confirmation of the CO2 warming hoax was obtained through thermodynamics and successfully finding a formula that works for both of the carbon dioxide atmospheres of Venus and Mars, as well as all the other planetary atmospheres. In 2011, Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller introduced the “Unified Theory of Climate” which proved that the temperature relationship with the altitudinal changes of pressure, prove that the physical nature of the so-called Greenhouse Effect is in fact a Pressure-induced Thermal Inertia which is independent of the atmospheric chemical composition. Ned Nikolov spoke at the London Climate Change Conference on Thursday, 8th September 2016 about this. By early 2018, the scientist who had just proven that Climate Change is caused by Galactic Cosmic Rays regulating the Earth’s Cloud Albedo, Professor Henrik Svensmark, was invited to speak in the Committee rooms of the Houses of Parliament on Tuesday, March 13, 2018. In fact, for two hundred years, Astronomers from William Herschel onwards had known about correlations between Climate Change and Sun Spot numbers, this was followed by more accurate correlations with Solar Cycle Length and then finally, the Hale Magnetic Solar Cycle. By 2018 it had been established that these correlations are caused by the speed of the centre of the Sun relative to the centre of mass or barycentre of the Solar System, which determines the length of the solar cycles, or more importantly the 22 year, Hale Magnetic Solar Cycle. This in turn is caused by the orbits and masses of the Planets, short Hale Magnetic Solar Cycles have higher Solar Magnetic activity due to the increase in the speed of plasma within the Sun. Between 1913 and 1996, only one of eight Solar Cycles was longer than the mean Solar Cycle length of 11.04 years, the last of these was the shortest Solar Cycle for more than 200 years, the strength of the Suns magnetic field more than doubled, the cosmic ray flux fell by 11 percent and there was a 8.6 percent reduction in clouds. This caused alarmism about Global Warming which lead the United Nations to set up the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), but this organisation was corrupted by environmentalism, politics, conflicts of interest and the corruption of the scientific method, as well as the fact that amongst the 40,000 delegates at the 2015 Paris Summit of the UN Convention on Climate Change, Climate Scientists did not dominate the debates that produced the agreement. This lead many Climate scientists to call for the IPCC to be disbanded as well as to set up the 2016 London Climate Change Conference, which was dominated by Causational Climate scientists such as Atmospheric Physicists, Solar Astronomers and Meteorologists. This also resulted in US President, Donald Trump, to end US funding for the IPCC in 2017, and to say that man-made Climate Change is a “Hoax”.


    • StewGreen says:

      Richard I thought it was you at the science festival today.
      In a debate led by British science cutNpasters I mean science writers a guy stood up at the end and totally condemned BBC /Guardian and said he had worked for Guardian but left in disgust.
      But his name was John.


      • StewGreen says:

        I avoid going to lectures on topics which Guardianworld own, cos they are just echo chambers, so are false.
        They will give you their bubble World view, nod at each other and shut down ‘critical’ questioning.
        However today I don’t have much alternative choice.
        So I am in 2 back to back lectures on science communication.
        Both lectures within the first minutes sneered at Trump and praised the Guardian.
        Uncanny, that they both did that.
        but by saying ‘Trump has his own Truth’ I’m guessing they are projecting themselves.
        #1 Was a panel of 4 science writers all Guardian supporters. Their leader from ChemistryWorld went on ‘yeh, cos of Trump we live in a post-truth world
        Then Jack Stilgoe spurted out ‘ yeh the American right aren’t interested in ACTUAL climate science, it’s just a pretence cos all they are interested in is their policy of free markets etc. ‘
        … That untruth provoked an American PHD pensioner got up and walked out, loudly.

        Later when someone asked shouted
        She’s a denier she doesn’t believe in Climate Change”

        (that’s not even true, I’ve heard her guffaw when a speaker has been doing alarmist PR
        And at the stupid feedback form which has too many qns about diversity.


        • StewGreen says:

          Lecture #2 was by a Brit who moved from a deputy at British Museum and is now head of the MIT museum
          He began with a Guardian article sneering at Trump and Kelly Ann Conway
          He ended with the recent Guardian article by Jenny Rohn
          “I’m giving up on science journalism’
          …”the best way to influence the current state… is private targeted channels” (politicians)

          FFS science journalist’s job is not to INFLUENCE
          .. it is to tell the truth to the the Public, cos they Pay for science work.

          So I managed to tackle him on 2 things
          1. Do you think there is a disconnect between the Guardian World and the public who pay taxes?
          (He didn’t understand the implication of that Guardian article, was to say sod you taxpayer)

          Then when he said you see on Social Media you should take notice of Ed Yong and not the chaff
          #2 I pointed out he’s saying
          ‘When the small boy tweets “the emperor has no clothes” ignore him’
          … And his idea of trusted sources is the fallacy of argument from authority

          I won, I think.
          Next lecture was the Gender Gap… Again one dimensional.. all reducing world to men vs women and not understanding that women quotas are benefitting posh Liberal White women overworking class Middlesborough men.


          • Richard Pinder says:

            Many years ago there wasn’t any internet, so you went to a library and ordered scientific documents. Then ten years ago I found the internet and a science blog about calibrating carbon dioxide warming using Glass Jars, Atmospheric Chambers, Gas Pipes and finally using the Atmosphere of Mars as a proxy. I seemed to be the only Brit on the blog. You could then find rare scientific papers about the core issues on Google Scholar. Finally I found that https://tallbloke.wordpress.com was the best place for debate about the Atmospheric Physics and Solar Astronomy in those scientific papers.

            The BBC‘s “Arrhenius method” is now dying and is being replaced by the “Unified Theory of Climate”. BBC Censorship contributes to slowing down knowledge of this change, a change that will demolish the biggest scientific Hoax in history. At the moment, apart from a small but growing number of scientists who use Tallbloke, Piers Corbyns Weatheraction and a few members of a Mensa special interest group, most sceptical scientists seem to be still ignorant of the “Unified Theory of Climate”, for instance I have never seen any mention by the GWPF. In fact the GWPF still believes that man has a little bit to do with Global Warming, but not much. But as Piers Corbyn, Richard Pinder and Donald Trump would say “even that is a Hoax”


  10. Fedup2 says:

    Thank you Richard – as a’denier’ I cannot accept the certainty that the climate change community has – how can current science gauge the effect of solar activity yet alone volcanic activity of the complexion of the global weather systems with such a limited scientific record ?


  11. Dover Sentry says:

    Trump supports Brexit.

    The BBC don’t have a hope in opposing both Trump and Brexit.

    Never fight a war on two fronts, BBC…. Ask ze Germans.


  12. StewGreen says:

    Do you get the Larkin joke?