Start the Week Open Thread 10 September 2018

its 200 days to our WTO Brexit. So the Far Left BBC will go all out to subvert the democratic vote . Meanwhile the Swedes have shown that they do not approve of their politicians destroying their own country – a liberal poison which spread across the West unchecked up until our Brexit vote .

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803 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 10 September 2018

  1. pugnazious says:

    In 2013 Ed Miliband played a crucial role in blocking any military action against Assad in Syria. The BBC rarely mentions his name and his pivotal role in connection to the disastrous outcome of that decision. Yet again another example of the BBC covering up for a Labour leader whose behaviour seriously undermines national security and the world order.

    A few days ago the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee published report on the consequences of our failure to act and a demand for an inquiry into that fatal decision in 2013 and the consequences that stem from it. Hear anything on the BBC? No. A police officer says cuts make crime rise and the BBC is there reporting it on Today or make it frontpage news that police have a dictionary of teen slang words…but a Parliamentary committee’s report on one of the most important and serious issues effecting the world right now and…nothing.

    Here’s a taste of what it says….pretty damning of our inaction in 2013….

    ‘It has become clear through our inquiry that the price of inaction in the case of Syria has been unacceptably high. Starting as a peaceful protest in March 2011 the Syrian conflict has subsequently claimed an estimated 400,000 lives, and led to eleven million people, half the Syrian population, being forced to leave their homes.

    Haid Haid, a Research Fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King’s College London, identified the failure of the international community to respond to the use of chemical weapons in 2013 as a turning point.

    The broader implications of the failure of the UK to intervene more robustly has had repercussions, overwhelmingly and fatally in Syria of course, but also beyond. Farouq al Habib, a Director at the Mayday Rescue Foundation, told us in evidence that “hundreds, maybe millions, of refugees would not have been displaced if something had been done in 2013.”

    The international community’s reluctance to intervene at an earlier stage created an opportunity for Russia and Iran to deepen their involvement.

    The international community’s failure to act and intervene meaningfully in Syria has created opportunities for the regime and other actors in the region to commit atrocity crimes, including the continued use of chemical weapons.

    The UK must bear its share of the responsibility for this and examine the repercussions of its decisions not to do more on its own and collectively. To this end we call on the Government to establish an independent inquiry into the decision-making processes that led to non-intervention in Syria, the recent airstrikes notwithstanding, and the lessons that can be learnt to prevent similar humanitarian crises happening in the future or to respond more effectively to such crises which may arise. ‘


    • Kaiser says:


      some saudis and Egyptian MUSLIMS bomb the twin towers

      GW bush declares islam THE religion of peace

      the international community respond by invading iraq ,afganistan
      bombing libya and supporting the MUSLIM brotherhood in egypt

      intervention just went soooooo well for us in the past, I for one applaud millipede for the one sensible decision he ever made


      • pugnazious says:

        Yeah got to hand it to Miliband…400,000+ dead, 11 million refugees so many of whom ended up in Europe with all that entails and Russia and Iran in the ascendancy once again as well as the rise of the Islamic State. Not a bad scorecard for one man’s moral grandstanding that left a vacuum in international geopolitics filled by the worst possible players.


        • carterdaniel says:

          If you remember at the time Cameron was salivating at the mouth at the prospect of bombing Syria, John Kerry was touring the world trying to get support for a coalition against Syria.

          Who was responsible for gas attacks?

          Miliband should be congratulated for averting another pointless NATO exercise. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, How many fuck ups do we need?


          • RJ says:

            Obama’s and Cameron’s plan was to defeat Assad and close the Russian naval base in Syria. To that end we would be the air support for ISIS. After the HoC vote we couldn’t be directly involved but by supporting the rebels with money and weapons we ensured the continuation of the conflict, the involvement of Russian and Iranian military forces and the creation of millions of refugees.

            If we had kept out the Syrian government would have retaken control very quickly, without the disasterous consequences we now see.


    • JimS says:

      This was a subject dear to the heart of Alan, late of this parish, and one which most(?) of his readers didn’t agree with him.

      Ed Miliband changed his published opinion more to fit in with what he thought would boost his electoral chances. He joins a long list of Labour leaders that the BBC has forgotten about. The foundation of all our current problems being down to Thatcher and our failure to resolve them being down to May.

      This HoC committee is just churning the dust. ‘The International Community’ is the UN and that is like herding sheep. The UK armed forces haven’t got the capability to manage fishing in the channel let alone carry out meaningful operations in Syria. I for one have no wish to see our lads and lasses lose their lives just so a few MPs can bask in moral righteousness. Let the Arabs fix their own problems.


  2. G says:

    Thought For The Day on our Far Left Marxist National Broadcaster Toady programme earlier. Professor Tina Beattie on the subject of Democracy and the unwavering need to vote.
    Well, Tina, my love, you should open your eyes to the reality of so-called ‘Democracy’ in this green and wonderful land of freedom. This beacon of ‘democracy’ is no longer (if it ever, frankly, existed). Your topic of the day should be seen against the background of disappearing rights, multicultural legal remedies and no-evidence based ‘hate speech’. I’ll not get on to the worth of voting as my blood pressure is already too high. With regard to the last point, It’s time our Tina had a deep and meaningful conversation with the likes of Sourby et al.
    Drain ALL the Swamp Dwellers, ALL.


    • chrisH says:

      She` s a Caritas catholic G.
      Fully behind Pope Francis-and to be fair, you`d not want to walk in front of him.
      She DID quote one line of scripture…didn`t mention Jesus though as I recall.
      Basically a liberal half way house for the EU, with some airy fairy pops at Dawkins, but lots of desert sandal pedicures for Anjem, who`s “coming out today”.
      Do Clintons do a card for this?
      I`ll give Chelsea half a million and see if I could buy one.
      Has anyone called Tina done anything apart from let Ike beat her up, or sing crap songs like ” I love to Love”?
      “I Love to Ask”


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Democracy is fine until –

      1. Scottish Independence Referendum
      2. President Trump
      3. Brexit

      In all cases, the losing party has refused to accept the result, and will continue the campaigns as if the vote hadn’t happened, ably aided and abetted by ALL media.


  3. chrisH says:

    Hi gang.
    Last night was the inaugural meeting of the Wessex ” End the BBC Gender Pay Gap” Cheridee, that we established last night.
    My name is Duncan Cox-brother of the better know Brendan. I`m going to be running it, and if you send in your money to my gels at the Bridgewater Wetherspoons,,,the Pumpkin Wellbeck-then my “trusties” as annointed last night( after closing) will process and “re-equalise” the funds to pay for my Doom Bar and sex sessions-or is that therapies?…well, it`s for cheridee, so “divna fuss yiseen” as we say in Cheltenham.

    So-stuff Movember, Stoptober and Black Mystery Hunt =all coming up-sod Children Indeed (as the BBC do) and Comic Walid…do NOT pay for the coppers nail varnish and Jimmy Choos-do NOT eat cakes in Cuba on a jolly holiday-and do NOT send any money to them feckkas!
    The BBC Gender Pay Gap is your only charity, no less worthy that sending socks to the Russian Front, as “expected” by the Nazis.
    “Givvuz ya fuckin moaney…give it NOW!”
    It`s what Malala and Camilla would want-both of them needn`t scrabble round `spoons for a lost 20p now do they?…I find that an inspiration.
    Sandi Toksvig, Sarah Montague, Usain “The Bolt” Husein? Jenni from the Bloc, Gayne Jarvee…ALL these poor ladies smell of wee, catfood lasagnes and muffballs…let me marinade them all in a jus of loving nurture and raised consciousness using Viagro…£50 will buy us a reinforced gastric band that doubles as a chihuahau lead for Premier Class flights to Kirstistan. You`ll never Wark Alone!


  4. MarkyMark says:

    UK 2018 ….



  5. BRISSLES says:

    Why is the Archbishop of Canterbury speaking at the TUC ??? OH Yes, now he’s saying its an institution that in its 150 years its fought for the underdog, the oppressed and the poor. Fair enough, but the church should stay impartial.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Brissles, hasn’t Francis O’Grady just given herself an £18,000 a year pay rise.
      Poor oppressed underdog that she is.


  6. MarkyMark says:

    Jean-Claude Juncker profile: ‘When it becomes serious, you have to lie’



  7. MarkyMark says:

    “I start a sentence in French,finish in Dutch,Spanish,Portuguese or Lingala depending on the neighbourhood. We’re all Belgian! That’s what makes this country cool”says @RomeluLukaku9& I agree!We must embrace diversity in Belgium & Europe!#RedTogether #BELPAM

    . . . EU DIVERSITY ? . . .



  8. AsISeeIt says:

    Middle-of-the-road listeners will be leaving us now for a few moments as the BBC virtue signal an urgent Brexit warning for shipping.
    Negotiation outlook for May: Moderate or rough. Clouds gathering. Storms, thunder, lightning, gales and Tory splits ahead. Overall depression. Previously delayed recession now immanent. Overblown.
    Tailbacks predicted: Dover: 30 miles long and rising. Good.
    Cliff Edge: emphasised. Sir Cliff rescue helicopter – no overfly alert warning in force.
    Transatlantic disappointment palpable. Employment numbers rising. Present incumbent still deplorable.
    Trafalgar: Square, patriotic monuments declining.
    Tahrir Square: Faeroes. Arab Spring: previous bright outlook projections reversed – becoming choppy. Heading west rapidly. Strongly advise dress moderate.
    Southern Powerhouse, Northern Outhouse.
    Bill Bailey Trough. Sandi Toksvig, Low, Viking. Trough.
    Pay visibility foggy. Outsourced. Ronald MacDonald’s Way.
    Carrie Gracey, Forties, far east returning, doing Rockall, turning rough. Fastnet – Six figures.
    Savile, Dogger, BBC spokesman?: Now just off South East Iceland low visibility and disappearing later.
    Record breaking temperatures: FitzRoy Castle.
    Minor warming a few degrees – Coastal panic stations.
    Wind turbines proliferating both on and off shore, cost very high. Fair?
    Advise switching to another Channel Light programme. Thames : now defunct. Sky: moving left rapidly.
    And that’s the end of the warning.


  9. G says:

    Hate Speech:
    “Do you believe that society should draw the line at all when it comes to limitations on hate speech?

    No. Hate speech laws are wrong. The question – not a question, but THE question – is ‘who gets to define hate?” That’s not to say there’s no such thing as hate speech – clearly there is. Hate speech laws repress, and I mean that in the psycho-analytical sense. They drive [hate speech] underground. It’s not a good idea, because things get ugly when you drive them underground. They don’t disappear, they just fester, and they’re not subject to correction. I made these videos, and they have been subject to a tremendous amount of correction over the last six weeks. I don’t just mean from my public response, but also partly from the university’s response, partly from a group of friends who have been reviewing my videos and criticizing them to death. This is why free speech is so important. You can struggle to formulate some argument, but when you throw it out into the public, there’s a collective attempt to modify and improve that. So with the hate speech issue – say someone’s a Holocaust denier, because that’s the standard routine – we want those people out there in the public so you can tell them why they’re historically ignorant, and why their views are unfounded and dangerous. If you drive them underground, it’s not like they stop talking to each other, they just don’t talk to anyone who disagrees with them. That’s a really bad idea and that’s what’s happening in the United States right now. Half of the country doesn’t talk to the other half. Do you know what you call people you don’t talk to? Enemies.”
    Jordan Peterson –


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful views like those of prof Peterson arnt welcome these days . He therefore has to be placed within a defined box and dismissed or undermined by publicly funded media .

      Once upon a time the judiciary was the buffer to put common sense into interpretation but with politicision – such as in the TR case – we should be more fearful …


    • LynetteO says:

      The major problem is that when someone vocalises hate and lies against people on the radio or on the TV it has the potential of being heard by thousands if not millions of people. Telling them after the event that these views are unfounded and dangerous, even if it is done straight away( which is very unlikely in any case), doesn’t lessen the impact that the lies and hatred stated out loud had in the first place . Their hateful views have now become acceptable simply because they have been said . No amount of going against slander and lies will put those lies back.


      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        The endless harrying of Trump and Brexit types is used to stop them defending the country or developing any kind of policy or considered thinking.
        The BBC and Woodward etc therefore aid and abet the Russians, Chinese and Islam by sniping, draining, smearing and wearing down national resistance to migration, Islamic Supremacy and the New Fashizm , as with Boris Jacob, Nigel and our Tommy.
        These heroes need our active support and a willingness to fight for them and their values-or else each one will end up like Martin Luther King or raving, harmless versions of David Icke.
        This is an endless war of attrition by those we elected or who speak for us like Katie Hopkins. That swamp needs draining,and we need to do far more to help them thrive. Or else we`ll deserve our burqas and Venezuelan banknotes we`re due.


  10. MarkyMark says:

    If you pay taxes and those taxes no longer support your way of life or the way of life you want for your children what is the option?

    In fact, what if those taxes are being used to pay for people who hate your way of life?

    “So you (a Muslim) can’t obey him (UK Law). So he (David Cameron) can go to hell.” – Anjem Choudary


  11. pugnazious says:

    Nice little chat between Justin and Bob, I think we can call him Bob as we’re on such good terms and he’s clearly no fan of the ‘uniquely awful Trump’, on Today this morning.

    Can’t really call it an interview with Bob Woodward as it was merely a stream of sly anti-Trump invective, half-truths and loaded interpretations of his own book from ‘Bob’ and rather than challenge any of that Justin actually tried to trump him with his own additional unsavoury comments about Trump such as ‘unstable’ and ‘uniquely awful’ as well as cheerleading ‘The Resistance’ or ‘the renegade movement to protect the country’ as ‘Bob’ called it….otherwise known as ‘The Deep State’ that’s protecting its own vested interests.

    ‘Bob’ suggested Trump had no idea a letter about trade deals with South Korea was stolen from his desk as he just wasn’t organised and didn’t know what was happening around him, he also suggested Trump had no understanding of the need to protect national security. How did ‘Bob’ know this? Well Trump asked questions such as why did they need so many troops in South Korea…apparently this is a dumb question rather than one any new President might ask…after all hasn’t the US withdrawn most of its troops from Europe now? Situations change and responses change…best not just keep on assuming everything is going great and the status quo must remain as ‘Bob’ seems to think is the right policy. ‘Bob’ also gave in evidence the fact that Trump dared to question the contributions of European allies to the Nato budget…oh, the folly…does he not understand? Hmmm…well just about everyone agrees that many other rich Nato members are not paying their way and are getting a free ride from US defence spending. Germany and Canada are paying a third of what the US does in terms of GDP….as this BBC graph shows…..


    And what of that claim that a letter about a trade deal with South Korea was ‘stolen’ from Trump’s desk so that he couldn’t sign it? Would that be the trade deal Trump agreed way back in March this year and is about to sign off now?….

    Trump gets South Korean concessions in first trade deal

    ‘President Donald Trump has reached the first trade deal of his administration, getting South Korea to make a few changes to a six-year-old pact he said was a horrible deal.

    Trump had largely criticized the previous agreement largely because of the U.S.’s auto trade deficit with South Korea, which has grown significantly since the deal went into force in 2012. At his insistence, the two countries launched talks last year to renegotiate the pact. ‘

    The deal is to be finalised in the near future…so far from not understanding what is going on and not being able to keep a coherent long term strategy going Trump seems quite able to operate without the help of ‘Bob’ thanks very much anyway and do so over extended periods with complex issues.

    What did the stolen letter say? It was classified as ‘pre-decisional/deliberative’…so not ready to be sent. It stated that the US would end the trade agreement already in place in 180 days…but..and this is the important part…the US was prepared to negotiate on economic issues of concern to both countries. In other words the letter was merely sabre rattling to kick start trade talks and give the US an edge…done in the usual Trump style.

    You’ve got to think there is no way in hell Trump would forget such a significant letter and decision about what would be his first trade deal. Is ‘Bob’ seriously suggesting when Trump came to agree the deal this March he didn’t suddenly think ‘Heck, wasn’t there something I meant to say? Surely I wasn’t going to agree to this….ah, shucks, do it anyway!’ Someone is lying. ‘Bob’?

    Justin didn’t bother bringing in anyone to contradict ‘Bob’, well why would he because Justin does such a good job himself questioning ‘Bob’s’ narrative, doesn’t he? No mention at all that people to whom ‘Bob’ attributes comments deny them emphatically.

    Here the Washington Post, no friend of Trump’s, does bring us two people central to the book along with their denials….nice if the BBC could have mentioned such denials…as well as the book’s claims being refuted and discredited by General (Secretary of Defense) James Mattis and General (Chief of Staff) John Kelly.

    ‘Two former Trump administration officials on Tuesday criticized journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, “Fear,” as the president continues to fume over its portrayal of a White House in disarray.

    Former White House staff secretary Rob Porter and former National Economic Council director Gary Cohn issued statements on the book Tuesday afternoon. Both were first reported by the news site Axios.

    “Having now read Bob Woodward’s Fear, I am struck by the selective and often misleading portrait it paints of the President and his administration,” Porter said.

    In one anecdote reported by Woodward, Trump ordered Porter to draft a letter on withdrawing the United States from the North American Free Trade Agreement in the spring of 2017. Fearing that such a move would lead to economic and diplomatic calamity, Porter reportedly spoke with Cohn, who told him he would “just take the paper off his desk,” referring to Trump.

    In his statement, Porter did not address any specific episodes reported in the book but said the suggestion that materials were “stolen” from Trump’s desk “misunderstands how the White House document review process works.”’


  12. G.W.F. says:

    Guido posted this video of the left wing demo outside Rees Mogg’s home. In the comments questions are asked about the group and about the chap who harassed Mogg and his family. A hate crime perhaps.
    But Guido has censored all attempts to identify the group, Class War, and its leader.
    Why? They are an establishment protected group, pro Islam, and pro- remain, and whenever arrested are immediately released. Details here of their leader – yesterdays idiot who harassed the Mogg family .


    • Dover Sentry says:

      Why the hell didn’t the police get involved and stop this?

      I shall complain to the Met Police.

      I’ll keep you all updated.


  13. MarkyMark says:

    Islamophobia … so powerful in the UK it stops Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May mentioning 9/11 on the 17 year anniversary.


    • chrisH says:

      I`ll not forget neither the Question Time that followed 9/11 where REAL evil-like Alibaih Brown etc -greatly upset the US Ambassador, nor the fufore when Bush said the US would be on a crusade to root out terrorism…
      Seemed that-to the liberal elite. Bush was no worse than Bin Laden by using the word “crusade”…surely that was a rubicon within two days of the worst incident we will ever see in our lifetimes…surely?
      Bin Laden is already the most influential man and opinion former in the 21st Century thus far. Just because libfux won`t say it doesn`t mean that we don`t already know it. A Churchill would have made this not so-the scum WE have tolerated since 1990 in this country as “political and media leaders” only make my case more true by the day.
      This is already the Century of Bin Laden, rather fear I`ll not need to review that in my lifetime.


  14. MarkyMark says:


    1765 …. In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right. They may use a pen or their voice, and should not be prevented from writing any more than speaking …That is the law in England, a monarchical country, where people are freer than elsewhere because they are more enlightened. – Voltaire, Republican Ideas, 1765

    2018 … In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non- crime hate incidents, which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing. Hate will not be tolerated in South Yorkshire. Report it and put a stop to it #HateHurtsSY – UK South Yorkshire Police, 2018


  15. Wild Bill says:

    “Jeremy Corbyn’s Private Secretary has been working in Parliament for nine months without the necessary security clearance, it was reported last night.

    British-born Iram Awan has allegedly not been granted a pass because of concerns over her known associates.

    Anyone without counter-terrorist check clearance is not allowed to work in Parliament but Awan has breached this rule by working in the Leader of the Opposition’s office, according to HuffPost.”

    Wow this is incredible, given that we had an attack on Parliament recently in which people were killed, does this not show the absolute stupidity and disregard for our country and our safety that Jeremy Corbyn possesses?
    By acting so carelessly he has put countless people’s lives at risk, who knows what contacts this woman has, the security services seem to know?

    Surely a full investigation into this woman and Corbyn’s associates must now be held?
    Not seen this on the BBC yet?


  16. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Anything on the bbc about this:

    Immigrant from Sudan CUTS OFF another mans HEAD in a betting shop in Birmingham and it does not even make national news?? It does not even make front page of the local paper! 🤔 Maybe an immigrant beheading someone does not fit with the main stream media agenda….

    Happened yesterday.
    Is this just everyday stuff now and no longer newsworthy.
    (Unless whitey done it of course, but that’s a given)


    • NameNotNumber says:

      Emm, It looks as if the beheader was training to be one of those ‘surgeons’ the nhs is so much in need of. According to the BBC, he only ‘decapitated’ Khalid so it’s probably not as serious as you were thinking – not as bad as a decapitation. He just died, apparently.

      ‘Khalid Yousef died at a branch of Paddy Power in Handsworth, Birmingham.’


      • Loobyloo says:

        Maybe Jeremy Vine could do a bit of investigative journalism and find out who paid his med school fees and how he got onto the course…A levels?


        • Guest Who says:

          Jeremy Vine OJ’d me yonks ago, and I used to rely on Lunchtime Loather until they got OJ’d too.

          The myth of BBC transparency is laughable. That he is paid so much to pontificate in his little echo chamber is pathetic.


          • Alicia Sinclair says:

            As long as the BBC employ Vine, they can always say that they DO have Christians working for them.
            A good luck charm like Jon Lansmann is for Corbyn. A pet project indulged so we can`t say that labour are antisemitic.
            Some Vine, Jezza is-that bloody name jeremy again eh?
            Detestable gulit crippled failure who probably thinks he saw the Sex Pistols, when it would have been Tenpole Tudor. A complete fake-hence his vaule to both the Cof E and the BBC.
            At least Tim earns his own crust.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        The jury will be asked to consider a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity.

        At some point, someone is going to have to ask if there’s a common factor behind all these people with mental disorders who have suddenly appeared on our streets killing people. Is it something in the food chain, perhaps?


      • pugnazious says:

        One of those highly skilled immigrants we really need to come here…they may have a few foibles and character flaws but don’t we all? Such colourful local traditions shouldn’t be viewed through staid, prejudiced western eyes but should seen as a valuable addition to our own cultural and social heritage and as a welcome and interesting new ingredient of our diverse and successful multicultural society.


      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        Poor triage, more training. And blame Kidderminster Tech for not training him to be a better buthcer.


  17. JimS says:

    More BBC fake news: Jeremy Vine keeps telling us that Naomi Osaka has been portrayed as a caucasian in the Australian cartoon. In fact the cartoonist has used exactly the same skin tone as he used for Serina. She is shown as having a blonde pony tail which, given the limits of resolution used in cartoons, is a good representation of Osaka’s tinted hair.
    If anyone has a valid complaint it is the umpire as he is drawn in pink!


  18. Guest Who says:

    Along with Media Lens, this lot work hard to give BBC PR a hand with their ‘both sides’ claims.


  19. Guest Who says:

    In other news…

    Boundless enthusiasm Netflix will be bricking it.

    Speaking of world-dominating TV:

    Bit more awks at the Xmas party?

    C-team? How many do the BBC have? Well it is summer.


  20. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Watching loose women today, of the 8 wimmin on the show (6 on the show with 2 replaced by 2 other wimmin half way through) the leaver (kemi badenoch who sat next to jo Coburn) was sticking up for the brino chequers proposal meaning that she wasn’t much of a leaver really.
    No male guests on the panel again.

    I thought Andrew Neill was going to appear on this show even if it was only on a Wednesday as in the daily politics but no sign of him.


  21. Roland Deschain says:

    How long, I wonder, until the BBC reports this?

    Or, indeed, this?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Got to hand it to Mr bone – once thugs start going after the young kids of politicians they really are playing something without an end game .

      I haven’t got time for many politicians because I blame their type for ruining our country while we had to sit , watch and say nothing in order to avoid the ritual accusation of racism.

      But their kids are not ‘in the game ‘ as it were .

      If the MSM doesn’t come down really hard on the vermin who did this then we know that any of that grief spewed out about a labour mp who got killed by a madman was just false .


      • taffman says:

        Disgraceful behaviour typical of anarchists that even Al Beeb should call out !


        • Fedup2 says:

          I bet when the press go after this particular group and individual they’ll scream ‘harassment ‘ . McDonnell and Corbyn must speak up about it otherwise any protestations about reasonable debate on issues not people will be vacuous non – sense ( of course we know how damn Right nasty these characters are – evidenced by their past behaviour ) .

          Having seen the footage I would love to know what instructions the plod had at this scene . If TR had been anywhere near he’d have been in the back of the police van before you could say ‘snowflakes ‘.

          The swamp resident Labour dwellers – eg Margaret Becket ony voted for Corbyn for ‘a joke ‘.


  22. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC News Channel may or may not have forgotten the 911 anniversary yesterday but they are keen to recall the financial crash of 2008. They are actually dating it to 15th September with the fall of Lehman Brothers – so don’t be surprised if we have a few days of this. Anyway it’s a fine opportunity to send a reporter down to a market in the East Midlands where remarkably she finds some chap to pontificate about falling wages, food banks and austerity. The BBC : John McDonnell’s daily freebie campaign outfit.


  23. Fedup2 says:

    With the exception of the events the far left bbc like to beat the right over the head with – tower block fire , dead black kid et al – al beeb only seems to do 10 year anniversaries .

    Obviously when it comes to the 100th anniversary of the Great War in a couple months s it will be the full multi ethnic it’s a knock out fest complete with smiling Third Worlders , false sincerity and the traditional denial of our Empire or anything good which came out of it .


  24. smoogie7 says:

    Very pro Corbyn analyst on PMQs today with the BBC omitting the parts where May ripped Corbyn to shreds over racism in the Labour Party:

    In fact the BBC are just being desperate now, Corbyn has killed his party and if anyone still supports Labour then more the fool to them.

    The BBC are clearly very foolish!


    • smoogie7 says:

      Not sure if the URL will work here but this is the video posted on the Tories Facebook page. For a PM who is about to be pushed out May still comes out on top and puts Corbyn in his place!


  25. AsISeeIt says:

    Lordie, what larks in the afternoon
    The authoritive and well-upholstered Simon McCoy on the News Channel is given the job of dousing the BBC bucket of cold water on Brexiteers’ suggestions for the Irish border.

    BBC editors have found a young bespectacled academic lass at Queen’s varsity Belfast to rubbish any solution; basically other than Remain.

    Our Simon ventures the slightly off-colour suggestion that there’s a fair bit of the ol’ smuggling going on at the moment as it is. Gosh! Begorra!

    Our prof – give her her due – rather than clutch her pearls and call for some handy nearby Belgian fop to run on with the smelling salts whilst she retires from Skype to her chaise longue – instead gives a knowing smile and sees the funny side of the whole whiffy wagon load of old blarney before quickly getting back on message with the doom and gloom. This Leave thing… it’s all impossible isn’t it… at’all at’all at’all….?


    • Fedup2 says:

      A border between the republic and Blighty – I don’t think there has ever really been one has there ? It was a murderous pain to the British Army fighting republican terrorists and has always been ‘bandit country ‘ . If the Reich EU wants to build itself a border – as they say – good luck with that .


      • taffman says:

        When GB finally leaves the EU, my prediction is that the Republic will follow shortly after .
        The Republic relies a lot on their trade with GB.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I wondered about that – there was a survey a while ago suggesting a 40 per cent leave vote . Not sure of the size of the sample but the pressure being place on the Republic – population @ 3 million pre immigration – now over 4 million must be crushing public services even more than here .

          If brexit is a success – as it will be – Eire leaving the Reich EU becomes inevitable in my dishonest opinion .

          And Taffman – what happened to our maxi ? Miss the master/mistress of cut and paste .


  26. Justin Casey says:

    I came across a rather enlightening website earlier regarding one of the favourite topics the BBC keep harping about….. The topic?? Rohingya Muslims….. I recommend taking the time to look at it and pay attention to the various sources and their valid fact based descriptions regarding the origins of the ongoing conflict in Myanmar….

    I really felt this following paragraph stood out…..
    `An insurgent enclave of sedition was purposely set up to advance the goals of theocratic interests in East Pakistan ( later Bangladesh) along the border region separating Burma and East Pakistan. I believe it was the same general tactic employed to great effect, to frustrate and then attempt to overturn the Jewish effort to reconstitute their homeland in the middle east. Just as the word or designation, “Palestinian” has no real historical context relating to Arabs. Linguistic research suggests the same with the word, “Rohingya” as unconnected to any indigenous population group related to a specific geographic area, and is instead connected with the religious concept or word, “Mohammedans” in the Rakhine Languages (Arakanese). Evidence strongly suggests the “Rohingya” Muslims are in reality Bengali Muslims, simply cynically designated as persecuted stateless victims to further a narrative to an uninformed world community to advance an Islamic agenda. The parallels with the Israeli, Palestinian conflict are utterly stunning in the similarities.`


  27. pugnazious says:

    Remember when Trump retweeted those ‘Britain First’ videos showing Muslims attacking non-Muslims and the BBC et al went ballistic, the problem not being the Muslims attacking non-Muslims but the fact somebody dared to show it?

    Heard much about this as the head of German Intelligence questions authenticity of a video from Chemnitz supposedly showing Far-Right activists chasing down immigrants?….

    ‘BERLIN (AFP) –

    Secret services typically work away from the limelight, but Germany’s top domestic spy Hans-Georg Maassen has repeatedly crashed into the public eye, with his latest outing pitting him directly against Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    After anti-migrant protests rocked the eastern city of Chemnitz, Merkel firmly condemned a “hunt against foreigners” backed by videos circulating on social media.

    But Maassen, 55, in an interview with Germany’s top-selling daily Bild last week, challenged the authenticity of at least one of the videos, sparking uproar.

    For critics, Maassen’s claim played into the hands of the far-right and his attitude was viewed as symptomatic of a domestic intelligence service riddled with far-right sympathisers.

    As pressure mounted on him to prove the video was a fake, Maassen denied questioning its authenticity and said his quarrel was with how the original poster on Twitter had oversold it as a “hunt against people” which he thought was intended to inflame tensions.’

    German Intelligence warned several years ago that Islamisation, not terrorism, was the main threat to Germany. Merkel of course paid no heed and opened the borders to an army of young Muslim males who, if they’d been carrying AK47’s, would have been called an invading army and they’d have been stopped. Looks like ‘immigration’ is a very successful and painless way of invading a country and even getting the politicians of that country to roll out the welcome mat.


  28. G.W.F. says:

    Mob outside Mogg’s home condemned by MPs.
    BBC link

    Cops did not act, perhaps the law on Hurty McHate had not been broken.
    But the gang have plans for another visit to Rees Mogg’s home on the 20th October and have announced their intentions. Are the cops interested in this bunch of remainers?

    Says Mr Bone

    Class War
    September 6 at 7:52 AM ·
    When the kids are united…..
    For tens of thousands of the young who will attend the PEOPLES VOTE demo on October 20th it will be their first ever demo – they will not know demo etitquette or how to behave on demonstrations. Great. That means after several hours of shuffling boredom they will break out and spontaneity will run the day. The appearance of revolutionaries – including myself – peddling ‘the old ways’ would be merely an attempt by the old to contain the new. Pointing the way to REES-MOGG’s town house maybe all that’s required as we lounge outside St.Stephens Tavern.
    Over to you Owen Jones. Do you endorse this?


  29. Guest Who says:

    In other news (from a truly fine source):

    Speaking of impartial facts, you cannot do worse than Jenny from da Hill.

    Netflix will need to up their game: Dixon of Dock Green in Gaza?

    Given the facts, any complaint to the BBC will likely require a full 6 months before an ECU Director unleashes their ‘belief’ to close the file.


  30. Guest Who says:

    Rob Burley will be happy.

    Dan Hodges banned me, so I have no trouble taking issue with him again. The BBC isn’t scared; Paul Mason simply calls in on his old BBC iPhone 5 and relays what is required from Alistair on Brexit and McDonnell on anything else.


  31. pugnazious says:

    The stories been out all day about Corbyn’s aide who has been refused a security pass due to concerns and yet still slips into Parliament on Corbyn’s coat-tails….not on the BBC though despite Maitlis now tweeting it..or rather having to retweet someone else’s tweet about the Huffpost story coz it’s not on the BBC…

    BBC covering up for Corbyn yet again, perhaps the barrage of Momentum abuse aimed at BBC journos is working…a tactic taken from Mein kampf….

    ‘I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous, until the nerves of the attacked persons break down and, just to have peace again, they sacrifice the hated individual.

    However, the fools obtain no peace.

    The game begins again and is repeated over and over until fear of the mad dog results in suggestive paralysis.’


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yep ‘world class ‘journalism . I suppose a National Security lapse like that doesn’t count for much in their internationalist eyes of the Far Left BBC .


  32. Slartibartfarst says:

    I thought this might be of interest. Evidently the Beeb have upset some in the Indian nation somewhat, by making a completely wrong/biased doco about a tribal village in Nagaland, India. Here’s an article complaining about it in :
    “Asia’s first green village in Nagaland deserves a better story than the one in BBC.”

    Some people (not me, you understand) might say that the bad doco could probably be blamed on a combination of:
    * a narrow world-view,
    * a lack of cultural sensitivity,
    * a religio-political ideological bias, and,
    * the (presumably) incompetence,
    – of the people making the doco, but I couldn’t possibly comment.
    Happy days.


  33. Guest Who says:

    OT, but it seems pan-broadcast now. And some are retained despite anything…


  34. Gammon says:

    Here’s something….the Mogg story is top of BBC with those on the left being so supportive and “smiley face” picture – leave the kids out of it…. and at the foot an opportunistic link to “PMQs the Verdict” – (not a top story but one Beeb keen to promote) – is “”Verdict” not “Opinion”? And, sure enough a very one sided “opinion piece” on PMQs. May rattled and angry by Corbin’s astute questions and Corbin only angry at not having the last word.

    Also today on R4 the presenter clearly guffawing at her own questions and opinion about how the “government of today” must be relieved to have passed the issue of licence fee budgeting to the BBc to make it’s own decisions about how it spends money in budget and what cuts it needs to make. How about things like the BBc food and cooking websites that are well catered for – how many recipes for gammon and chips does one need access to online??


  35. Tom_Kenny says:

    Right now on BBC Radio 4 a whinefest for NHS junior doctors. They’re quitting in droves. What is to be done?

    Every sentence starts with either “Hi ” or “So”, is punctuated with a glo’all stop, and finishes on an Australian interrogative.

    First speaker has already worked Brexit into it.

    Why don’t they become NHS GPs? Contract so lucrative they’re voluntarily cutting back their hours.

    Or find A&E locum work on £1,000+ per day?

    Maybe some of them are.

    So could part of the answer be cutting pay for GPs and locums to discourage junior doctors “trading up” into those jobs?

    But it’s so unlistenable that I shall never know if that possibility gets an airing.


  36. Tom_Kenny says:

    Right now on BBC Radio 4 a whinefest for NHS junior doctors. They’re quitting in droves. What is to be done?

    Every sentence starts with either “Hi ” or “So”, is punctuated with a glo’all stop, and finishes on an Australian interrogative.

    First speaker has already worked Brexit into it.

    Why don’t they become NHS GPs? Contract so lucrative they’re voluntarily cutting back their hours.

    Or find A&E locum work on £1,000+ per day?

    Maybe some of them are.

    So could part of the answer be cutting pay for GPs and locums to discourage junior doctors “trading up” into those jobs?

    But it’s so unlistenable that I shall never know if that possibility gets an airing.


    • Fedup2 says:


      Let’s face it – the motivation for the medical profession as always been cash . Even at the outset of the NHS began had to “ fill their mouths with gold “. The junior doctor / consultancy set up is just corruption .
      Private practice in the morning and outpatients after wards in the afternoon . Late.

      And nurses – NHS trained and then agency – the dont – give – a – damn – squad .

      Amoral doctors and nurses f ing off to aus or Canada for a better ‘ life style’ after being trained with taxpayer money . rant . But I’ve seen the corruption that is the medical business .


      • Tom_Kenny says:

        Friend of mine is an undertaker.

        Apparently before anyone can be cremated, 2 doctors must fill in a form stating cause of death.

        Each doctor picks up £82 paid by the bereaved family.

        This is private income for doctors additional to anything NHS pays them.

        Info in form all gleaned during treatment by NHS. What a racket!


        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes that sort of thing proves my point . I’ve seen – personally – the corruption of ‘ going private ‘ and then being put at the top of an operation list by – in my opinion – corrupt consultants . I thought I’d joined the Third World but then realised it was the socialist NHS .

          And – no – you can’t avoid it as they know your need is great so they profit from you .
          The admin , the nurses , the hospital gets a taste of your money so they all connive …


  37. Guest Who says:

    Perhaps she should take up tennis?


  38. G says:

    It’s actually quite interesting for me to daily watch the West tearing itself apart in large chunks. Even those that purport to have any responsibility for keeping order are standing back and watching events. I refer to police v Antifa there. Its happeing all over the West and there can only be one international big hand controlling all the puppets on the board, quite like the Far Left Marxsist BBC cheerleaders to name one. No way are events happening independently – too many similarities and coincidences. Whatever, whoever, they/it are accellerating their self destruction of the nation states presumably because they feel that the plan was advancing slowly, ‘undemocratically’ but surely, like the EU and then came Brexit and Trump……….


    • Fedup2 says:

      Once the new arrivals – windrush , Pakistani aliens and the rest grow in political numbers leading to the likes of Lammy , the Emir of Londonistan then it is inevitable that they will want the indigenous population to comply with their way of life ( it’s not culture ) .


  39. Roland Deschain says:

    Please tell me this is a parody!


  40. Rob says:

    A poem by a friend of mine

    IT’S TIME !!

    There’s vested interests to protect,
    Skullduggery too I suspect,
    Don’t let them cloud your intellect.
    It’s time for us to act!

    For forty odd years we have tried,
    To swallow what those suits contrived.
    It’s clear to me that they have lied.
    It’s time to make a change!

    So long in quicksand,little hope,
    No chance for Britain to elope,
    We must grab tight this rescue rope.
    It’s time to save ourselves.

    Mouth pieces ride that Gravy Train,
    No wonder they all shout remain,
    Our people won’t be fooled again.
    It’s time to take their whips!!

    Scaremongering of world war three,
    Downturn in our Economy,
    They’ll say owt but their prayers you see.
    It’s time we shut them up!!

    So many plots and schemes we’ve learned,
    They’ve stripped away the rights we’ve earned,
    But now I feel the worm has turned.
    It’s time to seize the reigns.

    If you’re not sure seek someone old,
    They’ve watched this whole damn thing unfold,
    Therefore they just won’t be cajoled.
    It’s time to take their lead!

    Don’t stick your head beneath the sand,
    Just ask if you don’t understand.
    We must unite, take back our land.
    It’s time to Brexit now!!!!



    • Kaiser says:

      courtesy of muse

      The paranoia is in bloom, the P-R
      Transmissions will resume
      They’ll try to push drugs
      That keep us all dumbed down and hope that
      We will never see the truth around
      (So come on)

      Another promise, another scene,
      Another package lie to keep us trapped in greed
      With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
      And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
      (So come on)

      They will not force us
      They will stop degrading us
      They will not control us
      We will be victorious
      (So come on)

      Interchanging mind control
      Come let the revolution take its toll if you could
      Flick a switch and open your third eye, you’d see that
      We should never be afraid to die
      (So come on)

      Rise up and take the power back, it’s time that
      The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
      Their time is coming to an end
      We have to unify and watch our flag ascend
      (So come on)

      They will not force us
      They will stop degrading us
      They will not control us
      We will be victorious


  41. BRISSLES says:

    Not sure if any of you have seen this, but its pricelessly funny………….

    And Feddy, if you start a new Thread I’ll just have to post it again !!!


  42. JimS says:

    More BBC fake news:

    Australia is the only Commonwealth country that does not have a treaty with its indigenous populations
    [Nine year-old white Australian brat refuses to sing Australian national anthem].

    The UK is a Commonwealth country and it even denies the existence of its indigenous population!

    [More trivia based racebaiting from our divisive BBC]


    • Rich says:


      Her father is a Psychology Professor at the Univ. of Queensland, seems to specialise in child development, nurture and nature, all that stuff. His daughter is his guinea-pig, a vicarious tool, an experiment on a smaller scale than the one that he and the other pseudo-intellectual fuckers of his ilk are attempting on the rest of us.


  43. pugnazious says:

    Amazing…the BBC’s not interested that Trump’s lawyer’s lawyer admitted that there is no evidence that Trump knew of the meeting in Trump Tower….and the BBC is not interested in the fact that the Russians in that meeting had close connections to the Democrats and with the company that produced the dodgy dossier for the Dems, Fusion GPS….or that the Clintons received millions of dollars from Russian sources.

    Both reports put a spoke in the ‘Trump colluded with the Russians’ line being peddled hard by the BBC.

    Then again the BBC isn’t so keen to report other stories that reflect badly on the anti-Trump resistance, or the anti-democratic coup plotters as they should be called.

    For instance how about the one about Google trying to get out the Hispanic vote in the expectation that they would all vote for Clinton…only to be sorely disappointed as nearly 30% voted Trump.

    Or how about the latest as a video surfaces of a gaggle of Google execs mourning Trump’s election and essentially dismissing his voters as uneducated bigots and racists….but don’t worry, the resistance goes on.

    Odd how the BBC is so unconcerned about Google’s attempts to interfere in US democracy and its clear bias when it is the biggest and most influential company in the world with vast amounts of data on just about everybody which it could put to all sorts of uses should it wish to.

    The BBC was outraged by Facebook’s association with companies that worked with Trump and allegedly, but not in fact, Brexit. Huge amounts of BBC airtime has gone on trying to force Facebook to stop supporting such companies and to crack down on what the BBC et al define as fake news, ie anything that contradicts their own narrative about the world, and yet they seem entirely unconcerned when such huge resources of tech companies go towards helping the Democrats or like-minded fellow-travellers.


  44. pugnazious says:

    Lol…The Beauty and all his mates in the US better pack their bags and head back to the bunkum bunker at BBC HQ…..

    ‘US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order authorising sanctions against any countries or individuals found interfering in US elections.

    The order instructs the intelligence community to monitor and report on attempts to disrupt election infrastructure as well as propaganda.’


  45. Halifax says:

    I wonder if you could assist me. I’m currently developing a blood pressure monitoring system. Firstly I need you to raise your blood pressure so could I ask you to read the following from the BBC news website….

    Businesswoman helps make internet images ‘more diverse’

    Joyann Boyce is trying to make the internet’s image of people using technology more diverse.

    She said she realised “how white the internet’s image of the tech industry is” when she tried to search for pictures of people typing to illustrate and help her new start-up business in Bristol.

    Her search showed page after page of white, male hands. “I couldn’t find any hands that looked like mine,” Joyann said, before she worked with a team from Techspark to do something to solve the problem.

    12 Sep 2018

    So after reading the above can you please let me know if you have any symphons relating to hypertension and if so please report.


    • JimS says:

      Dear Joyann, I think I have found a clever device that might help you solve your problem, you might even have one already but don’t realise it! It is called a ‘camera’. Sorry for the whitesplaining.


  46. Loobyloo says:

    Victorian Society reveals top 10 buildings ‘crying out’ to be saved

    First sentence. 🙄


    • JimS says:

      One would think that the ‘cultural significance’ of a victorian building derives from its original purpose, not its last use before becoming derelict.

      But when one’s aim is to show that Britain has ‘always’ been black and muslim normal thinking goes out of the door.


  47. Beeb Brother says:

    Breitbart has a brilliant scoop of a recording of Google executives in the wake of Trump winning the 2016 election displaying the most rancid bias; several in tears, another talking garbage about ‘white privilege.’

    How much have they banged on about phantom ‘election meddling’ so surely this would be front and centre or their website? This is the most powerful company in the world referring to Democrats as ‘we.’

    Of course there is nothing on their website. Nada. This goes to the core of the problem with the BBC: the stuff they refuse to report on. They have space for a story about an old rock and streaming lags for football, but nothing about someone abusing absolute power absolutely – the very thing they forever tell us is so bad. (Except when they do it.).


  48. Guest Who says:

    You will never guess who News?Nite had on for their new all-bubblehead slot. Go on… guess…


  49. Gammon says:

    More project fear today : generation snowflake wont be able to use their social media constantly whilst traveling around and posting photos of themselves and pictures of their gammon and eggs breakfast #gammonfilter #pinkhue