Weekend Open Thread 1 September 2018

So the Far  Left anti Semitic BBC has to find a way to report on the anti Semitic goings on in their favourite Far Left political party – Labour . What are its options? Ignore, look the other way ; decide that there is a more important issue or attack the victims of Labour Party bullying

Meanwhile Far Left BBC reporters in America will be lining up to condemn President Trump whilst lauding a dead white republican politician just because he didn’t like Mr. Trump . The political swamp will be showing its collective false grief along with the BBC


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352 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 1 September 2018

  1. Guest Who says:

    In which ever rising bbc star Rob tries to placate the left by pointing how much they already try to placate the left.

    Good luck with that, Rob.


  2. StewGreen says:

    People’sVote = Anti-BrexitVote = Deceivers’Vote

    I bet that the same people who are busy tweeting for a second vote, also tweeted 3 or 4 years ago that Cameron shouldn’t be having a vote in the first place.

    These people who are claiming to want the PEOPLE to decide have a poor record on democracy.
    1. They said there shouldn’t be a FIRST vote
    2. When they lost that one, they backed Gina’s Miller’s trick to say parliament should have a veto
    3. Then they turn around and say there should be a second vote.

    Then they say no one has an opinion that Brexit is progressing well
    …Yes of course not, cos you and your media chums are continually standing in the way of “getting on with it”.


  3. pugnazious says:

    The BBC mind…so broad and tolerant and intellectualy, morally superior…

    Paul DanaharVerified account

    Running the BBC’s news operation across the Americas. Previously BBC’s Bureau Chief in Middle East & Asia. Author of ‘The New Middle East’. My personal account


    • StewGreen says:

      Beep beep, libmobber throws out accusation
      ..Run the #PROJECTION test
      Does the libmobber seem himself guilty of the accusation
      “someone that small minded” ?
      ..yes indeed


      • StewGreen says:

        FFS look what I found
        ..No wonder a truckload of irony meters is delivered to the BBCnews team each morning


        • StewGreen says:

          The Orwellian context here is this
          #1 TOLERANT metro-lib Paul Danahar has read something ..that is truthful, but doesn’t toe the line that Islam is OK cos only “the far right would criticise it”
          #2 ..thus he’s got TRIGGERED
          And #3 He is INTOLERANT of the WSJ and says it should not have been written and he instead of addressing the issues he does an Ad Hom attack against the writer ‘he’s not a grown up, he’s an embarrassment, not professional’

          Should the article be banned is it actually offensive ?
          How can it be ? After the intro about his childhood experience, all it is is a factual relaying of what he recently experienced, there seems to be no opinion or judgement in it .. BUT it doesn’t toe the line that Islam is OK

          The important thing is Free Speech : Andy Ngo should be free to give a factual account of anything
          By encouraging people like him to SELF-CENSOR Paul Danahar is the bad guy
          .. It’s exactly the same thing that caused the non-reporting of groom&Rape gangs.

          Seems with every libmobber you can find a trigger that releases their inner bigot.


        • Holly Selassie says:

          Still seriously think they`re journalists , don`t they?
          “Embarrassing their profession?”.
          The BBC have not knowingly employed a journalist in recent memory-and just look how many months they need before turning them into a Sweeney, Peston or Marr.
          Court Eunuchs hoping for a paternity test one day.
          At least Johann Hari was a lying incompetent , anti Semitic plagiarist, a shameless scum sucking creep with “issues”-but got the Independent to fund it all, as opposed to the likes of Danno.

          PS-great review Stew, you`ve got a PhD there.


          • Guest Who says:

            Interesting you should raise this. Here’s a bloke who grows turnips in manure making a pitch…


            • StewGreen says:

              I’m loathed to call him thick, who am I to judge people ?
              but look at those assertions
              #1 MSM is a post-Trump acronym
              That’s #FakeNews cos “mainstream” figurative use is attested to in 1599, 1831 etc
              Since then there have been mainstream things
              eg mainstream films/comedians and alternative films/comedians etc.
              It’s been common for news since the 80s
              “Mainstream media attested by 1980 in language of U.S. leftists critical of coverage of national affairs.”
              (It’s been used in book titles)
              even acronym MSM dates to way before Trump

              #2 “used dismissively”
              You hypocritical idiot you are seeking to DISMISS anyone who uses the term

              #3 “British journalism, newspaper and broadcast, is mostly superb”
              Totally tosh ..journalists rate as untrusted in public opinion surveys


        • Guest Who says:

          Paul says Paul is bang on. Be like Paul. Apparently.


          Lord Hall Hall And Franny can straightfaced endorse this as professional on objective?


  4. Beltane says:

    Even the Chief Rabbi, for Christ’s sake – to coin a phrase – talks about European-wide anti-Semitism, Corbyn’s attitudes and Labour party reactions, and just like all the rest can’t bring himself to name the cause behind the rise. Nobody outside of Wilders, Orban and a handful of others – certainly no one in a major position of influence – has the moral courage to join the dots, while the number of attacks made and lives taken rises year on year. Never in human history has a complete civilisation been so subjugated and neutered.


    • TrueToo says:


      Well, he’ no longer holds the office, but I remember him laboring under the yoke of political correctness. The fact that he bluntly accused Corbyn of being an anti-Semite is remarkable in itself. He’s not the type of person to make such a judgement lightly.


      • Beltane says:

        Yes but that’s my point TT, Sachs, just like Frank Field, is lauded for his courage in accusing Corbyn of anti-Semitism while both – from moral cowardice, it must be said – ignore the reasons behind the rise. It DIRECTLY accompanies another rise, affecting us all – but it simply doesn’t do to say so, apparently.


  5. pugnazious says:

    This, according to the BBC’s Paul Danahar, is an embarrassment to journalism written by somene incrediby small-minded apparently….seems all too true though…maybe Danahar is the real embarrassment…

    A Visit to Islamic England


    Other tourists may remember London for its spectacular sights and history, but I remember it for Islam. When I was visiting the U.K. as a teenager in 2006, I got lost in an East London market. There I saw a group of women wearing head-to-toe black cloaks. I froze, confused and intimidated by the faceless figures. It was my first encounter with the niqab, which covers everything but a woman’s eyes.

    This summer, I found myself heading back to the U.K. as it was plunging into a debate over Islamic dress. Boris Johnson, the country’s former foreign secretary and London’s ex-mayor, wrote a column opposing attempts to ban face-covering veils. Nonetheless, he added, “it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes.” The responses could hardly have been more heated.

    I wanted to cut past the polemics and experience London’s Muslim communities for myself. My first visit was to Tower Hamlets, an East London borough that is about 38% Muslim, among the highest in the U.K. As I walked down Whitechapel Road, the adhan, or call to prayer, echoed through the neighborhood. Muslims walked in one direction for jumu’ah, Friday prayer, while non-Muslims went the opposite way. Each group kept its distance and avoided eye contact with the other.

    Women and girls were dressed in hijabs, niqabs and abayas (robes). Some of the males wore skullcaps and thawbs, Arabic tunics, with their trousers tailored just above the ankles as per Muhammad’s example. The scene could have been lifted out of Riyadh, a testament to the Arabization of Britain’s South Asian Muslims. At the barbershop, women waited outside under the hot sun while their sons and husbands were groomed.

    Inside the East London Mosque, visitors were expected to dress “modestly.” Headscarves were provided at reception for any woman who showed up without one. A kind man on staff showed me around the men’s quarters. He gave me a bag filled with booklets about Islam. In one, Muslims are encouraged to “re-establish the Shari’ah,” or Islamic law. Those who ignore this mandate are “of little worth to any society.”

    That night, I visited the Houses of Parliament. Rifle-carrying police officers greeted me when I stepped out of the Tube. The extra security was mobilized in response to last year’s car and stabbing attack in Westminster by Khalid Masood, who killed five people. Outside the station, there are roadblocks along Westminster Bridge and a new security fence in front of the palace yard. I asked an officer about Masood’s attack. “I’d rather not talk about it,” he replied. “I was there that day.”

    Forty-eight hours later, I woke up to the news that a car had rammed a Westminster security barrier. Police arrested Salih Khater, a 29-year-old Sudanese refugee who had been given asylum and British citizenship. Three people were injured in the attack. London’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, expressed support for banning vehicles from parts of Parliament Square.

    Next I visited Leyton, another district in East London where some Muslim social norms prevail. An Arab cafe near the Tube station was filled with men; no women were inside. An Islamic bookstore sold hijab-wearing dolls for children. The dolls had blank, featureless faces, since human depictions are prohibited in conservative Islam.

    I stopped outside the Masjid al-Tawhid, a South Asian Salafi mosque and madrassa (school), just before afternoon prayer time. A group of girls in robes and veils walked around back, toward the dumpsters, where the women’s entrance is located. I later saw the Islamic Shari’a Council of Leyton. This community has religious, educational, business and legal institutions to maintain a separate identity.

    All this gave me pause. But I was unprepared for what I would see next in Luton, a small town 30 miles north of London and the birthplace of the English Defense League, which has held unruly anti-Muslim demonstrations. At the Central Mosque, I met a friendly group of Punjabi-speaking young men. “You’ve come to see Luton?” one struggled to ask me in English. The young men asked me to follow them through the town center.

    Within minutes, we walked by three other mosques, which were vibrant and filled with young men coming and going. We passed a church, which was closed and decrepit, with a window that had been vandalized with eggs. We squeezed by hundreds of residents busy preparing for the Eid al-Adha holiday. Girls in hijabs gathered around tables to paint henna designs on their hands. All the businesses had a religious flair: The eateries were halal, the fitness center was sex-segregated, and the boutiques displayed “modest” outfits on mannequins. Pakistani flags flew high and proud. I never saw a Union Jack.

    The men finally led me to a discreet building that housed a small Islamic center. They spoke privately to its imam. I was led upstairs to see him. The imam asked me if I was prepared to convert. Apparently there had been some miscommunication with the young men. I told the imam I wasn’t ready for that, but I would appreciate any literature I could take home. He led me to a bookshelf and said I could have whatever I wanted. I grabbed the first booklet that was in English. It was by Zakir Naik, a fundamentalist preacher from India. “The Qur’an says that Hijab has been prescribed for the women,” the booklet explained in one section, “so that they are recognised as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.”

    Other tourists might remember London for Buckingham Palace, Piccadilly Circus and Big Ben. I’ll remember it for its failed multiculturalism. Or perhaps this is what successful multiculturalism looks like.’


    • Anne says:

      Andy Ngo could have seen scenes like this years ago in places like Bradford but he didn’t bother, hadn’t heard of it, or he didn’t think it mattered.

      Bradford has a population in the region of 350,000 – much less than London’s 8m, and virtually no tourism. Makes a big difference, that, when you’re looking for some relief from the diversity.


    • Holly Selassie says:

      Great article this.
      Well worth a read-takes an outsider to see what we`re putting up with, simply having got used to it.
      Well done Andy-and thanks for sticking it up ,Pug.


  6. thirdoption says:

    The truly awful Yasmin Alibhai-Brown has made a complete fool of herself, again.
    Superbly highlighted by Rod Liddle in his Sunday Times (pay-walled) column:-

    “The brilliant columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown has seen something that greatly disturbs her: a photograph on social media of people dressed up as Nazis on the streets of Gloucester. She immediately took to Twitter: “Too busy accusing the @UKLabour of anti-semitism to heed the real scary threat posed by the hard right,” she lamented. Well perhaps, perhaps.
    It was later pointed out to her that it was just a publicity shot for a reunion of the cast of ’Allo ’Allo!, resulting in an unusual radio silence from Yasmin.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      In case she deletes it…



      • Fedup2 says:

        Roland ,thank you for posting the tweet.
        That creature turns up on TV and in newspapers expressing her views to the general public . How ? Why ? I’m surprised she didn’t do a Dawn Butler and accuse those people of ‘cultural appropriation’ of German culture .

        Yasmin is one of those Kenyan Asians idi amin through out of Uganda and which , like mugs, Blighty accepted with the standard promise of the time ‘- don’t worry there won’t be any more ‘. Perhaps Yasmin is ready to go back to her country now that Amin has gone ….
        … guessing she might go quiet for a while …a decent person would but I fear she is too thick to realise the ridicule her comments receive .

        As for the cast of allo allo – no Wehrmacht officer would appear in public with tunic unbuttoned ….


        • BRISSLES says:

          If anything I object to the way she is often used to be a ‘representative’ of my country e.g. around the table amongst international journalists on Dateline London. She pontificates about ‘this country’ in rarely positive terms, and her views are always right, and notice the giggle when she is proven wrong. Pity the woman doesn’t return to her birth place and kick off about the government there and try to improve the lot of her own people, because she is certainly not one of ‘my’ people.


      • G.W.F. says:

        Put her on a boat to a moslem land where she can do so much to help her kind, armed with the knowledge she has of western failure


  7. pugnazious says:

    The BBC’s finest doing their best to help spread anti-israel feeling with a very selective quote….

    Taken out of context from a series of tweets by ‘PM of Israel’that quoted a speech by Netanyahu.

    Picked up by a very active Corbynista and Labour official….


    Here she is with her hero….



  8. Tabs says:

    BBC1 Sunday Morning Live discussing an article by the Washington Post. The article said it looked at parts of London and concluded that the UK is becoming an Islamic state and said an alcohol ban in Tower Hamlets was proof.

    The dwarf guest on the sofa said “…the Washington Post is a right wing organisation”…. errr no it’s not. I think someone else said the alcohol ban was due to combating anti-social behaviour – errrr why doesn’t this ban exist elsewhere in the UK?

    The dwarf then finished the discussion by saying “we should be all supporting multiculturalism” to many nods of approval. Errrrr you carry on mate but the Muslims won’t meet you halfway!

    Typical BBC ‘discussion’, dismiss the original source as unreliable news then end on promoting their agenda – problem solved!

    Edit: They are now discussing “Is Britain better off the booze?”. I bet this is the BBC’s new agenda to get alcohol removed to help us all to submit to Islam.


  9. Fedup2 says:

    Tabs ,
    Congratulations on watching Sunday Morning Far Left BBC – the viewing figures must be so small as to be unmeasurable .
    The Muslims are playing a long game to separate Britain from America to form the Caliphate .
    The coming ( nuclear ?) war between Iran and Israel – started by the mad imams of course – may set that progression back as people really do wake up to what is happening with the encouragement of the Journo/political bubble …


  10. smoogie7 says:

    Not BBC related and yet rather fittingly we won’t here much about this from them either but I think that we are witnessing the end of the Labour Party:

    ‘DOZEN LOOK TOO GOOD Twelve Labour MPs are threatening to QUIT the party and trigger a no-confidence vote in Jeremy Corbyn’


    All we need now is for Bojo to step up in the Tories and we will have a Tory landslide. At least we can have a laugh at the BBC trying to spoil it!


  11. Fedup2 says:

    Let’s hear it for Cathy Newman who says she was indecently assaulted at school when she was 16. Apparently she was forced to touch a boys ‘ John Thomas . The incident is now subject of a criminal investigation .

    Oh – by the way – the school was Charterhouse – £40000 a year private boarding .shes bound to be in touch with the plebs with such a privileged educational background . Oxford after that -I think .


    • G.W.F. says:


      If that incident led to her becoming a feminist and talking crap on the air, then she ought to sue the blighter for the consequences of his crime


      • RJ says:

        It sounds like an attempt at rehabilitation by allowing her to become “a victim”. Once we accept her special status we can wipe our minds of any memories of her car crash interview with Jordan Peterson.


    • Guest Who says:

      Cripes. Kay Burley goes that route and no top floor in media is safe.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      She is 44, so the alleged event happened nearly 30 years ago.
      “The incident is now subject of a criminal investigation”
      On what basis?
      People phone 999 every day to report burglars still in their home, all they get is a crime number.
      28 years later how is plod going to produce any evidence which will result in a trial, let alone a conviction?
      Wasting police time is a crime, both the mad bint and the police involved are guilty.
      Any possibility the police might become concerned about serious John Thomas events, or their female equivalents, which happened yesterday?


      • Fedup2 says:

        Last chance ,

        Totally agree – the amount of effort put into historic crime investigations ( for the ‘closure), inquiries , reviews must sap the capability of those dealing with events taking place today .

        The outcome is always ‘lessons will be learnt ‘ ( which not implemented or forgotten ) or a CPS decision not to prosecute


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Surely her abuser will be a fellow lefty……..


  12. G.W.F. says:


    Beware of the curse of Brexit. Celebrity Remainer struck dumb on stage.
    Sorry Bono. Your audience got off lightly


    • Anne says:

      He was dumb before he went on.

      Hope he’s also lost his speaking voice. He should try listening occasionally.


    • theisland says:


    • Guest Who says:

      Can’t he use semaphore?


      • Holly Selassie says:

        Clueless U2 twerps.
        The Shadows did OK without Cliff, and without Bonos foghorn and bellicosity , we could have played “name that tune” for the meat raffle at the interval.
        They all sound as shit as Beautiful Day anyway.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      He has indeed been struck by the curse of Brexit. See Paul Watson’s masterful putdown of the multi-millionaire hypocrite, who had announced that his beat-combo group would display a giant EU flag at their Berlin ‘performance’ as an act of geriatric teenage rebellion:

      The late, great Frank Sinatra made an album called Duets in 1993, in which he sang classic songs with various musical partners. One of them was Bono, although they recorded separately and the music and video were mixed later to imply otherwise. Ol’ Blue Eyes had not previously heard of Bono, and initially thought it was a brand of dog food. True story…


      • StewGreen says:

        Suspicious : U2 announce they will wave a big EU flag at their gigs, starting from Berlin
        – PJW does a video criticising that
        – On the second gig Bono chokes up
        ..maybe on his own hypocrisy after PJW had pointed it out ?


      • john in cheshire says:

        And we in England think he’s a dog biscuit.


        • Holly Selassie says:

          Only the BBC could possibly think could Bono losing his voice during one of his songs. could POSSIBLY be a “news item” on Radio 4s 8a.m headlines. Actress Ashley Judd( but who else-whoever she is) said that the whole arena “felt for him-he seemed so helpless and vulnerable” , as his smoking machines belched smoke onto those golden vocal chords of his.
          Don`t the BBC EVER listen to themselves, and think of what they`ve now become?
          Already my favourite story for the week, so many levels of madness contained.
          Just as well the BBC don`t need to seek comedy any more-they just are funnier than anything they`ve put out by way of comedy these days.
          Passive smoking? Maybe Bono needs a CO2 Big Vaping Machine.
          God hates him these days, fear he`ll not be with us much longer.
          The Singing Blimp.


  13. Fedup2 says:

    Turned on the midday al beeb news to see if they were still going on about St. John mccane , instead it’s gordon brown talking to a Labour Jewish group ; god I thought he was dead . He started to talk about bigotry – immediately I remembered the lady he accused of bigotry as her town was taken over by foreigners .
    And that other line he used ‘British jobs for British workers ‘ . The man is totally devalued in the same light as his best friend – Anthony Blair . I reckon if there were votes in it he’d convert .

    PS – I don’t think the Muslims got a mention – surprising since labour values Islamic votes more than those of the Jews.

    PPs – sad Gordon seems to think anti Semitism sources from the Far Right. I guess living in the land of the jocks he doesn’t see too many mosques – the true source of attacks on Jews together with comrade Corbyns boot boys and girls …


    • BRISSLES says:

      Old Brownie is wheeled out to be the mouthpiece whenever there’s a crisis within the party. Remember in Scotland when the Labour Party were in freefall to lose against the SNP ? Old Brownie did his ‘being the son of a manse’ speech again – it nearly came out today in his lecture I noticed. Its like dusting granddad off to rally the ranks.


  14. G.W.F. says:

    Looks as if Sajid Javid, peace be upon him, will take this up and help to destroy our ploice force.

    ‘Police will soon adopt a raft of “enhanced inclusivity” measures including celebrating “culturally-focused events like Black History Month” as forces across Britain are ordered to treat minority representation like a “critical incident”.
    According to Police Oracle, a plan set to be launched next week will see every force create a “gold group at chief officer level focused on diversity”, with identity politics to be made a major priority.’
    ‘Hello hello, wot’s this I hear about Moslem grooming gangs? I’ll do yer for racism.’



  15. NCBBC says:

    An article on McCain, from a lefty magazine. Well researched though.

    A ‘Maverick,’ Revisited
    Tim Dickinson’s 2008 profile of then-presidential nominee John McCain offers a revealing portrait of the man who took on Obama.



    Taibbi: Why Did John McCain Continue to Support War?
    And why has the rest of America never come to terms with the defining crimes of our age?



    • Fedup2 says:

      Thanks – worth the read – a bit brutal but if true shows how the swamp looks after one of its own. Someone should sent it to his daughter.

      I think it’s always a symptom of swamp sickness when politicians have been about a bit, not got caught , and raised to the nonsensical elder statesman status complete with gong .

      .And when they die , and if the MSM approve , they get the full treatment . Meanwhile ordinary people go about their business because one less politician is no loss – there’s never a shortage of replacements ….


      • Holly Selassie says:

        Thanks for these NCBBC.
        Dickinsons is a stunning takedown, best hatchet job I`ve seen.
        Keith Vaz till has some way to go, when the yanks do pork barrel deep state evil, they are world beaters.
        THAT is the real McCain. and he`d not even GONE to Ukraine by then.
        What a nasty failure in all departments, no wonder he`s a lefty hero-well for this news cycle anyway.


  16. pugnazious says:

    The zealously pro-EU Matthew Parris was on the Beeb yesterday complaining about the lack of respect for politicians, the lack of deference for the poor souls. A theme constantly aired by the BBC itself, a stick used to beat ‘social media’ which the BBC wants to see controlled and censored….can’t have the great unwashed free to air their opinions without being filtered by the establishment media like the BBC and its ironically named ‘Reality Check’. And ironically we had Ian Hislop on R4 ‘celebrating dissent and dissenters through the ages’…he may be editor of Private Eye but he is firmly Establishment now and well trained to give the correct pavlovian, BBC approved, responses to any situation regarding Trump, race, Islam or Brexit.

    Once upon-a-time the BBC were the dissenters, the bright young things ripping up the rule book and thumbing their noses at the Establishment. Deference? You must be joking. Now of course they are in charge, they are the Establishment and they don’t like it up ’em…nor do they admit that it was they who created this free-for-all lack of deference and refusal to bow to their ‘betters’ that they now suffer from.

    This is the BBC that railed about the destructive force that is capitalism and demands Big Business be controlled in the interests of the environment, these Big Businesses that happily ship jobs to cut-price India, or pack up whole factories and set them up in China increasing profit by cutting pay costs, who import cheap labour here so they don’t have to invest to train and upskill British workers and then export their profits to tax havens but a BBC which now, #duetobrexit, suddenly supports these businesses and their dodgy profiteering business practices.

    The same BBC that whinges about carbon miles and the cost to the environment of transporting goods around the planet but now cheerleads for car businesses that insist on staying in the single market and customs union for a tariff free environment so that they can continue to produce cars by repeatedly moving the same car and its parts across numerous borders to different factories in different countries, one building the body shell, one putting in the engine, one putting in the suspension and so on until the car is finally complete. What’s wrong with one factory producing the whole car?

    ‘ Before the new Bentley SUV purrs away from the showroom, its bumper will have already travelled 2,200 miles, crossing the English Channel three times.

    But while the final assembly of each Bentley remains in Britain, the components that make up the cars are drawn from across the world and often zigzag back and forth between factories in the UK and the continent before arriving at Crewe.’

    How is it that the BBC has been recently telling us that we Brits will all be out of work due to AI, robots and mechanisation and yet keeps on insisting that we need massive immigration of cheap workers to keep the economy rolling and Big Business happy?

    BBC liberal, green, pinko worldview turned upside down #duetobrexit.


    • Beltane says:

      It is no coincidence that the majority of letters complaining of contributor comments in the Spectator concern the pretentious, biting on a lemon-flavoured wasp, Mr Parris. His loyalties and beliefs lie firmly with the Guardian and I wish Charles Moore might banish him to that introverted hinterland where he could enjoy more suitable company and share the same echo chambers.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I think Parris was elected when even a rubber duck wearing a blue rosette could have got a seat – in the case of mr parris – im sure the rubber duck would have done a better job .


    • Holly Selassie says:

      Great piece of writing Pug.


  17. Nibor says:

    Pugnazious ,

    Couldn’t agree more .

    This elite supports the Labour Party , LibDims or Greens more than it supports the Conservative party because those parties will keep the Nomemklatura in the style they believe they are entitled too even more than the Tories . UKIP is obviously way off limits because it believes in democracy .

    A telling piece of our times is that university lecturers are nearly 100% Labour and Remoaners while workers are fifty/fifty despite the ingrained loyalty that Labour households had .

    Remember when the ” progressives ” were mooting the idea in the Guardian and BBC that the age of democracy was past its sell by date ?


  18. Roland Deschain says:

    Words fail me. Is this really what we are compelled to pay our licence fee to fund?


  19. Roland Deschain says:

    Okay, it’s not BBC bias. But just imagine if Donald Trump had done this.



  20. theisland says:

    Double attack by the EU


    If only we had a government working on our behalf.


  21. G says:

    It seems matters are hotting up in Sweden. Some doubt about the veracity of the election process; a no-go area breaks down completely and a politician of the good party is shot at. Can the Swedes avoid civil war before the election………….

    Meanwhile in Chemitz Germany………..
    Get ready for it, the breakdown is seriously on the way……..


  22. Annunaki says:

    About time too, all across Europe the seething, silent majority are slowly gathering and showing their disgust at the attacks upon THEIR civilisation and culture by an uncivilised, intolerant minority that are defended over and over by those in power and the media whatever their transgressions.
    This minority are intent upon subverting our religion and culture at every opportunity and have no intention whatsoever of integrating withing the cultures that gives them shelter and benefits and protection from the hell holes that they ran away from without the courage to stand and fight for their countries. (although they appear brave enough to attack members of their host countries when they outnumber them or have a knife or gun)


  23. Guest Who says:

    The BBC’s Paul Danahar clearly on quite the roll.


    • Annunaki says:

      The “US political establishment” that fails to respect a democratic vote and those who voted, when it does not involve their elite club, but rather puts all their efforts into undermining the democratic system, thats what I call “far right”.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Hasn’t McCain’s funeral demonstrated perfectly that the political establishment is in fact just one party? And that you must vote for it or your vote doesn’t count in their eyes.


    • Holly Selassie says:

      The liberal media reveal themselves in their private musings.
      I remember after we voted to leave the EU that the BBC were distraught that Cameron(or was it him?) was no longer to be offered a croissant at the Brussels post mortem, and might have even had to wait outside the meeting room at some stage. It was THAT that mortified the press corps-how awful!
      And then it was Teresa “no-mates”-as we were setting off Article 50.
      And your Trump bit above-the liberal fake news pack are TERRIFIED of not being in the gang, being bullies or welcome.
      Must be that Charterhouse upbringing, where lonely bed wetters need nanny. And tonsil hockey with the older boys isn`t yet an option.
      Another PhD here Stew?


      • Annunaki says:

        Is that the same school where, when they shout “Head Boy !” they all fall to their knees ?


  24. Sluff says:

    Having belatedly woken up to the chaos that is Venezuela, the biased BBC is concentrating solely on the ‘human interest stories’ and humanitarian crisis aspects of the mass emigration to nearby countries.
    So we get this story, which even they describe as a ‘long read’ hidden away at the very bottom of the website front page.
    But what do we get in terms of analysis into what has gone wrong ?
    This. Note the order. Theirs, not mine.

    “President Nicolás Maduro blames “imperialists” – the likes of the US and Europe – for waging “economic war” against Venezuela and imposing sanctions on many members of his government.

    But his critics say it is economic mismanagement – first by predecessor Hugo Chávez and now President Maduro himself – that has brought Venezuela to its knees.”

    And that’s it.

    The BBC. Where no criticism of socialism is allowed.
    Totally cretinous.


    • Annunaki says:

      Like Africa, like the middle east slaughtering raping and causing famine and mayhem and, who’s fault is it ? oh of course its ours, every 5 minutes on the TV an advert to feed their kids while they enjoy killing and raping each other, yet, when they arrive here, what do they do ? slaughter, mayhem and rape in Europe also, to the point that residents are driven to protest in the streets, well must be our fault again I suppose, the only thing they miss over here is the ability to become armed soldiers raping and slaughtering civilians, but they are getting there..


  25. Guest Who says:

    ‘Asia’ is a big area. The BBC seems dedicated to one very small bit.


    • Annunaki says:

      Hmm millions of Chinese over here quietly living alongside us, like so many other cultures but never ever mentioned, but a hijab photo and story at every opportunity it seems on their news and I really, really failed to understand why, until I realised how they whinge and whine at every opportunity and refuse to accept our laws and culture unlike every other culture that joins us. The Home Office should wise up to those who bow and scrape to get a British passport then turn on us like a rabid dog calling our culture “decadent”, demanding their own special schools and exhibiting overt homophobia, sexism and antisemitism


  26. davylars says:

    Well, BBC’s Fake or Fortune managed to find not one, but two paintings to put under their microscope tonight.
    Tonight’s offering was to put names to two paintings where the paintings were of black people from the 18th century. It was pointed out that they can’t use the term (negro) anymore, although that is what the paintings were catalogued as.
    Of course they searched to link this with slavery abolition movement because of the subject.
    Although no hard evidence was found they still claimed that there probably was a connection anyway.
    At the end, the presenter stated that this was the most satisfying search that they had ever done because of the subject…


    • StewGreen says:

      See ITTB saying the entire Fake or Fortune prog seemed faked


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Fake or not, it certainly got Fiona Bruce very, very excited.
        They’ll probably up her already massive salary for getting that excited about the politics of it.
        P Mold also managed to shine up his PC credentials until they glowed brightly.
        The both were so pleased with their ‘pioneering work’, they nearly burst. All in all, a great virtue-signalling festival.


  27. Fedup2 says:

    I think you will find the likes of the home Office -especially the immigration and passport departments were infiltrated long ago . Wanna buy a passport ?



  28. Guest Who says:

    Going well.


  29. Guest Who says:

    Interesting what Emily M. likes.


  30. Guest Who says:

    And Gavin seems to exist purely for Alistair Campbell to retweet.


  31. StewGreen says:

    Jordan Peterson is on R4 now
    Presenter Rabbi Jonathan Sacks speaks to some of the world’s leading thinkers
    Today’s prog : Responsibilty
    He asks “Have we handed to much responsibility to the market and the state ?”
    Series title : Morality in the 21st Century, Responsibility

    other guests coming up Noreena Hertz, economist, Michael Sandel, political philosopher
    Students from The Manchester Grammar School and Manchester High School for Girls.

    JP says we are wrong to say happiness is the purpose of life ..we set out selves to fail
    Rather “meaning” sustains people
    It comes from adoption of responsibility, whereas we’ve been too fixed on “rights” without this counter


  32. StewGreen says:

    Sacks talks about totalitarianism
    JP it’s twin viewpoints #1 totalitarianism #2 nihilism (the rejection of all religious/moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless

    totalitarianism is encouraged by universities

    the “we should accept you the way you are” concept is damaging
    WE should say “get your act together instead”

    Sacks “what about the other extreme : creeping totalitarianism ?”

    Well that’s something that comes from the LEFT with a counter reaction from the RIGHT
    ..it’s an identity politics movement. saying people need to be put in their groups , opposite of individual sovereignty.
    .. On the left they say your sexuality, your gender-identity, your ethnicity/race ..your group marker
    ..that leads a destructive tribalism.
    The Marxist overlay is that “history is a battle between groups” ..same as working-class vs capitalists.
    that gives a morality victim group/oppressor group
    (we’ve moved on 100 years since then and we know the left can go too far)
    The right goes too far when it makes claims of “racial superiority”
    The left goes too far , but we don’t know when.
    They end up saying “the measure of fairness is the equality between those groups”, that is catastrophic, cos that way of thinking breeds monsters
    Sacks “is individual morality being outsourced to our group politics ?”
    Yes that’s the negative, cos it dispenses with your individual responsibility.

    “You say choose friends who want the best for you”
    Yes, mercy is not the same as justice.
    Don’t say it’s alright when it isn’t.

    Nowadays NICE is the only moral virtue.
    ..that’s a facade, cos you don’t confront problems.

    Next Sacks speaks to teenagers
    Some disagree with JP , some agree
    Sacks moves on “we live in an unforgiving world, that is different from the way God taught”
    Yes, people are labelled as eternally wrong cos they are in a label group.

    Kids have read up a bit ..one is laying into Marxism.
    Part 3 : Collective responsibility
    speaks to economist Noreena Hertz, who argues that in 2008 the gov should have stepped in and reigned back the free market.

    Sacks “you’ve found this new generations have low trust in institutions” (I don’t think this is a young person thing)
    NH “51% of 8-29 year olds don’t think capitalism is the right system”
    (she’s cherrypicking her surveys)
    “Over the last 30 years we’ve see the gap between rich/poor grow wider, social mobility isn’t working ”
    (that’s not universally true )
    NH : Oh look I put out a question “is society fair” and not one person agreed !
    (Doh that’s nothing to do with economics eg beautiful people get things others don’t )

    Sacks “Global responsibility ? Governments are disempowered against global corps”

    She goes on about teenagers marching against guns.

    Back to the kids, some of which rebel against their system by supporting capitalism.
    One plugs the Twitter HumanProgress

    4 kids say capitalism has gone too far (out of how many ?)

    (Libmob tweeters will complain R4 aired a Tory school)


    • StewGreen says:

      Michael Sandel seems to agree with JP
      : don’t pretend to neutrality, cos leaving people out causes resentment ..ie popularism.

      That’s dumb, only at the end of the show do they say the podcast version is longer


    • StewGreen says:

      So what did libmob tweeters say ?
      \\ And now… Rabbi Jonathan Sacks given air time, paid for by license fee payers, to peddle his hate of @jeremycorbyn in all but name. //

      \\ @BBCRadio4 kicks off a new series on morality with a long long segment of Jordan Peterson, who is intellectually vacuous & a boost to the far right & misogynistic men. Is it a joke?//

      \\ Virulent islamophobe Jonathan Sacks is confirming biases with quivering man-child Jordan Peterson on @BBCRadio4 & I feel like I’m on the crank part of the internet. 😣😭//

      \\ Southpaw Jim
      Jeez! #bbcradio4 is like a far right wet dream this morning. Impartiality is a distant memory now. #BBCBias//

      \\ @BBCRadio4 so we just had Sacks showcasing the alt-right rubbish of Petersen today. I hope there will be some Left views given equivalent airing in future episodes, but not holding my breath. //
      Doh the economist guest NH was very far left


  33. JamesArthur says:

    Did anyone see any mention of Sad dick Khan ballon on the BBC? Trump’s was all over..well until it didn’t fly..

    R4 announces Chris Evans is leaving radio 2..Comment from announcer ‘ we can be sure it won’t be a man’ in answer to who will replace him…
    Chris Evans was ‘marmite’ but whatever woman they get will see figures drop…unless they put Amol plus a woman on..then figures will plummet. But that does seem to be their aim recently..how low can we get our listening figures and still get paid..


  34. Dave666 says:

    BBC 13:00. The wheel of news does a circle and hey we are back to current ,with “children drinking energy drinks” illegally high levels of air pollution agenda. Geezer from something like stop lead in petrol says blah blah heart disease blah blah lung cancer blah blah. I didn’t think there was lead in petrol which is why I sold my 2.8i Capri as I couldn’t afford to have the engine modified to run unleaded but I digress. Then on to some other geezer standing by the roadside with a hand held monitor. But oh no almost comically it’s well below the legal limit. The wheel rolls on when will this story emerge next?