Weekend Open Thread 28 July 2018

As all the Albeeb management go off on holiday to spend taxpayers’ money we should spare a thought for all those vibrant diverse baby beeboids staying in Blighty to carry on the snowflake task of blaming so called cuts for this and that as well as suppressing incidents which al Beeb doesn’t want us to know about .

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473 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 28 July 2018

  1. Doobster78 says:

    It’s just never ending

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1023605278107987968

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  2. Annunaki says:

    No update on Mary Berry’s life ? thought that was news nowadays and any crap about love island

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Annunaki
      As a Chuck Berry fan I’m surprised at his choice of white tottie. Still, each to his own eh?

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  3. thirdoption says:

    Gina Miller: ‘Dark Brexit forces have led us to crisis’

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/gina-miller-dark-brexit-forces-have-led-us-to-crisis-2pt6kbjsn

    Quite right Gina…… Barack Hussain Obama did everything he could to illegally influence the outcome of the vote and I can’t think of a darker force than that.

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Is she allowed to say “dark” forces. Doesn`t that stigmatise the likes of Lenny Lammy.and the other lefty composites?
      Windy Miller needs to be put on a charge sheet, hubby`s loaded.
      Is she actually a British citizen anyway? And how come she always gets to the top of the Supreme Court if Brexit can be accused of giving her a hangnail?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I am regularly thankful to Gina Miller. Had Parliament not been given the final say over the A50 notice, it might have been kicked into the longer grass.

      Had Parliament not got a vote in October on the results of negotiations it would have been relatively easy for those calling for a second Referendum to have one.

      The good Lord works in mysterious ways His wonders to perform.

      Keep praying! We will need to leave EUgypt on our knees.

      One day, we can stand tall and free.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      thirdoption
      Cum to think of it -which I do – (Copyright Derek & Clive) neither can I.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      “Dark forces” – this from the woman who went to the High Court, where she sought and obtained a ruling that the financial backers of her endeavours could remain anonymous.

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  4. Annunaki says:

    There will be a few dark forces on the streets at Notting Hill soon but the BBC will no doubt ingnore that, lets have a little look at our Luton residents at the last “carnival” of stabbing and muggings….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qGN3Zwr2Ag
    dont you just love our diversity and the value they bring to the UK, they just luv a good kommunihi celebration and they do it so well

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  5. Eddy Booth says:

    Hasn’t the BBC jumped on this deal or no deal story?
    Maybe many are on their summer hols, or in faggy Brighton for the day…
    Mischievous RT news takes the lead:

    ‘God, help us’: British Army on standby in case of no-deal Brexit supply issues
    https://www.rt.com/uk/434571-brexit-no-deal-army/

    ”The pro-EU Labour MP David Lammy took aim at the news on Twitter saying: “God, help us. This is not coming from Remainers. This is not project fear. Pro-Brexit Ministers are drawing up blueprints for the army to deliver food, fuel and medicine if we leave the EU with no deal.”

    ‘This lack of “frictionless trade” could see a 10-mile-long motorway in south-east England turned into a “holding area” for goods vehicles, as up to 10,000 trucks a day would suddenly require customs checks to enter the EU, according to the Financial Times.’

    No deal is the YK2 Millennium Bug all over again
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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Amazingly I was affected by the millennium bug two weeks ago.

      I was locked out of the internet until I realised my clock had gone back to before 1999. I solved the problem by changing my “Date and Time Properties” to 2018.

      Also I won’t starve because I can buy Yorkshire foods from the local farm shop, including English sparkling wine from the heart of Yorkshire. Therefore only the local Champaign socialists will die of thirst, as well as staving to death because of the shortage of posh French grub in restaurants run by nasty left-wing proprietors.

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Millennium Buggers like Lammy.
        Chicken Lickers like Adonis.
        And Warmons like Harrabin.

        Such are the Cassandras we allow to spout on our freeviews.
        I prefer the chicken bones as they fall out of the cats bowl myself-saves money, more accurate too.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Richard, have you been hacked? “I was locked out of the internet until I realised my clock had gone back to before 1999.”

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Richard -having spent the best part of 1999 preparing for the worst I’m glad 2000 is still having an effect -however much time and money was wasted in the run up to it. Definite touch of brexitarmaggedon to it .

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    • The Sage says:

      ‘This lack of “frictionless trade” could see a 10-mile-long motorway in south-east England turned into a “holding area” for goods vehicles, as up to 10,000 trucks a day would suddenly require customs checks to enter the EU, according to the Financial Times.’
      I thought the same thing happened on Friday on the M20 and even before we leave the EU.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Wouldn’t it be ironic if the British army ended up being the ones delivering us from this evil tyrannical government also.

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  6. Beeb Brother says:

    They want social media to take responsibility for ‘abusive posts.’ No doubt the threshold for ‘abusive’ posts will be set extremely low and defined as anything you do not like. Terrorism, paedophilia etc and stuff everyone agrees is abhorrent should not be allowed but of course the leftist control freaks will want to cleanse the platform of all thought crime.

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  7. Tabs says:

    I caught the last 5 minutes of BBC2’s ‘Secrets of Silicon Valley’ on at 17:30 to 18:30.

    Sad music and the presenter making the same summary again and again about how social media has “made politics turbulent” and “how they thought being all connected would make our politics better but…”.

    Classic BBC bias. If social media has helped someone (ie. Trump) into power doesn’t mean politics is now “turbulent”. it just means your liberal candidate lost – get over it ffs! Half of the UK and half of the USA are very very happy with the way politics is going right now.

    Even the lady talking over the credits couldn’t resist also saying “extraordinary how being connected had affected us all”.

    Jamie Bartlett was the presenter and a quick look at what he has written you can see he is left leaning – no surprise there then!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Tabs, it is something of a permanent wonder to me that the people who run TV viewing in the UK, and their employees who benefit from it, and those who own and run and who work for Networks in the USA appear to completely lack understanding of who Donald Trump is.

      He is one of their own.

      I doubt that social media had much effect in his election, apart from people possibly being free to confess to friends via texts and e-mails “You know, I’ve been thinking about voting for Trump. Everyone says he is so awful but I don’t know. What d’you think?” would be the sort of opener. But that could be done just as well, as in the past, via snail-mail and telephone landline.

      No.

      What the broadcast TV media do not understand is that one of their own stood for election, on a Republican ticket, and won. His face was known because not only had he been ‘seen’ for years as a celebrity businessman but, if I recall correctly, he fronted a national network TV show – the American version of The Apprentice – for some years.

      With Donald Trump as US President, the BBC should be feeling rather pleased and celebrating the power of good old-fashioned TV, not constantly helping instead to attack the bloke!

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    • JimS says:

      The interviewer at Cambridge Analytica seemed unable (unwilling?) to understand the difference between transferring experience from one job and stealing material. All professionals learn from jobs that they did in the past and apply that to jobs in the future. The distinction might be harder to understand when that job is processing data but it is still there, i.e. working for Tesco one might learn that buyers of large boxes of chocolates go on to buy baby milk nine months later and that knowledge might come in useful when taking on work for Asda but that doesn’t mean that the data company retains the data about Mr Smith of Acacia Avenue, esrtwhile customer of Tesco.

      The advertising business has always tried to ‘target’ potential customers and political parties do the same. Look at the BBC’s website and listen/look again ‘offerings’ they use ‘cookies’ and ‘personalisation’ to better target their ‘cusomers’. Obama was hailed for using ‘social media’, this current fuss is just sour grapes that the ‘wrong’ sort of people are voting the ‘wrong’ way.

      The ‘establishment’ hasn’t been listening to the people for 50+ years and the people’s ‘voice’ has been historically limited to ‘letters to the editor’ (easily binned) or the guy in the pub, back of the cab or the barber. The internet has changed that and the ‘establishment’ doesn’t ‘like it up them’.

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  8. Guest Who says:

    Safe to say… comments could…

    They really are struggling despite an admirable attempt at telling things often enough.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Virtual signalling “Fake News” stories about children and schools on BBC Look North, crowding out real news, such as who has been sent to Hull Prison?

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    • vlad says:

      Good to see the sheeple waking up, rising up, and throwing off the mental chains of the bbc oppressors.

      We’re mad as hell, and we’re not gonna take this anymore!

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  9. Beeb Brother says:

    So many vox pops on the news. If I wanted to know what someone random chump thought about something I would ask someone in the street. There is no need to pay £3.5 billion to have them do it for us.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Please… carefully-vetted chump.

      Bbc editorial integrity.

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    • Deborah says:

      Are but they are also able to read out what celebrities I have never heard of say on Twitter.

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  10. Eddy Booth says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44999537
    ”A 13-year-old girl whose body was found in woodland was stabbed to death, police have said.
    Lucy McHugh’s body was discovered near Southampton Sports Centre on Thursday morning.
    She was last seen leaving her home in Mansel Road East the morning before.
    A 24-year-old man from Southampton is in custody on suspicion of murder and engaging in sexual activity with a child.”

    …from Southampton …that style of reporting rings a bell.
    It it just recently that the police / media have stopped providing names, until they are forced to, or was it always so?

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  11. taffman says:

    Rejoice !
    Geraint Thomas does it for Wales and Great Britain.
    Cummon Al Beeb, say ‘Great’ Britain. Have some pride in your country.
    Britain is Great. We know you hate to say it.

    As you love the EU so much, why don’t you get them to pay your exorbitant wage bill and get rid of the telly tax? You represent them more than us.

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Note that some Welsh PE teacher had PM and the broadsheets slavering around the old boys trainers these last few days.
      The press seem to think that it`s because his school welcomes all kind of personal growth and niceness.
      Everyone gets a prize and feels included.
      That so?
      In my experience, those who do best in sport have sporty parents, money and time-and are a bit driven.
      They don`t share doughnuts with other faiths, don`t need sex changes or tattooes, and don`t get dangled out of care homes for Gary Al Glittani or Jim Al Savili from the nearby Boozebuster Kebab House either.
      Not that the BBC will tell us that though.
      By the way-if we paid for him, he`s British.
      If he voted Brexit, he can be Welsh.

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  12. Guest Who says:

    Tony seems somewhat disturbed.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Rob Burley is a fan.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Guest Who
      Is there enough paper in the world to make a list of the BBC flaws, or will we all have to wipe our arses on Dock leaves in order to provide enough? Don’t laugh. As a child I, along with my friends,have used Dock leaves to wipe my bum when out playing in the fields.
      Memories.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Say hi to Mark Thompson guys…

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    • StewGreen says:

      That BBC Facebook thread is full of barking liberals shouting their hate for Trump.
      … Shows they not in touch with normal people.

      Metropolitan liberal media people live in Lalaland.
      ..The kind of people that think loud background music improves a documentary prog, instead of ruining it.
      … The media really don’t seem in touch with the people, the non-metropolitan people.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        At least Trump did not use the word ‘enemy’ for the BBC. He called their star reporter ‘another beauty’.

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        • Guest Who says:

          All the more effective for it.

          Soapy seems to have been a gibbering wreck since.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Country file : A regular Sunday prog dedicated to campaigning on SJW issues, which also occasionally mentions the countryside.
    Adam’s at a nearby strawberry farm bought by Mr Singh in 1996 …he doesn’t seem to speak good English and all the workers seem his Indian relatives
    ..ah hang on here come the East Europeans.. each one is a happy genius.
    Oh happy, happy

    Oh now we are at the dairy farm.
    Scary, scary, The hay harvest will be desperate cos there is no sign of rain.
    ..Obviously recorded before this weekends rain.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Oh big shock one of the winners of the young presenters is a white girl.
      Oh the older boy winner is also white.
      ..the presenter is Anita Rani.

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      • Lefty Wright says:

        StewGreen
        Am I correct in my assumption that Ms Rani is of Indian descent. If so have not the people from India, by and large, integrated very well?
        It’s the illegal African “refugees” that concern me.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Funnily her co-judge was an ethnic African guy who was a pop star , who is now a farmer.

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          • Lefty Wright says:

            Stew
            As a great fan and admirer of Louis Armstrong and Fats Waller, I just get the feeling that these great talents would have advised the young generation of today to shove the C rap music up their arseholes until it hurts.

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      • Deborah says:

        Stew, you know that Countryfile is my favourite programme? I have read out your comments here to Mr D who said you must have been listening to us.
        We also saw the item about the fires on Saddleworth moor. They did acknowledge that the severity of the fires could have been due to poor management and because there is no longer controlled burning of the heather (they didn’t exactly say that the environmentalists had made controlled burning very difficult); but the solution they were promoting was encouraging more moss to hold water. Can the SJWs not understand that care of the land is best left to the people who understand the land? And that is not the environmentalists who cause disasters by unintended consequences, like major fires on Yorkshire moors.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – it’s a shame countryfile doesn’t have a ‘kill and cook ‘ corner each week. How to kill and skin a rabbit or similar . But I guess nothing gets killed in the “countryfile’ Albeeb version of Blighty .
      Personally for me – killing things makes life less ‘ taken for granted’ and more of value but I suppose metro beeboids wouldn’t get that .

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  16. Richard Pinder says:

    This has yet to be confirmed by people at Porton Down, because it could be fake news from an MI5 agent working at Porton Down.

    A blond woman and Pablo Miller exchanged a red bag full of perfume bottle sprays made at Porton Down, left at the Skripal house in Salisbury after Exercise Toxic Dagger. One of the bottles was damaged by the red bag hitting something. The intelligence agencies went into emergency mode, deflecting attention from the mess by blaming Russia. The Skripals have been in hiding ever since, except for PR stunts, starting with a phone call from Salisbury District Hospital. Miller and the blond woman were treated in secret at Radnor Ward, Salisbury District Hospital, Intensive Care/High Dependency Unit, a ward with eight beds in the main unit, with 4 one-bedded side rooms. To enter the ward, a bell must be rung. The entrance was guarded by a contingent of policemen. The couple were not in the care of the regular staff of the hospital, but attended to by staff from Public Health England Centre for Radiation, Chemical and Environmental Hazards, based at Porton Down, near the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down. No person not signatory to the Official Secrets Act and cleared for Top Secret, had sight of the couple after 4th March. It was known that a D-Notice banned the mention of Pablo Miller. At the time, a leak or rumour by scientists, stated that the blond woman was a CIA agent, and/or married to Pablo Miller and/or someone British working at Porton Down. Its thought possible that the couple could have died in Salisbury District Hospital?

    Further news is about an American firm that produced the perfume spray bottles at Porton Down. Scientists at Porton Down report that the US federal contracts registry reveals that the Pentagon’s Defence Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) has funded military projects at Porton Down. Its thought that the bottles could have been the latest developments by a private contractor called, Red Scientific Ltd, which was awarded a contract to explore techniques of delivery. The project’s stated goal was to improve the efficiency of aerosolisation over the current techniques used by Porton Down.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Richard
      Your post is so ‘heavy’ that I’m surprised it will not picked up in other places with a bigger ‘circulation ‘ as it were. I’ve always viewed the world as ‘cock up’ versus ‘conspiracy ‘ and ‘cock up’ normally winning because there aren’t enough people intelligent enough to get a conspiracy accepted as convincing .

      I don’t know if this site is the right place to publish such an account – perhaps it is as good as anywhere .

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Fedup2
        The subject covered by Richard has been dabbled at by the BBC and our Government repeatedly. If we are in the business of exposing BBC bias Richard may be exposing bias by omission.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          G
          Yes okay – I’ve not followed the Salisbury poisonings closely but litvenko and the Bulgarian attack do stick in the mind .
          If the site fails on Monday we might draw our own conclusions..

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          Talking about omission. I have Googled information from the email and most of it can be found on the internet. I also remember Maxincony talking about an amateur journalist in the Salisbury area who collected all the information that appeared in the Media over the months. What it reveals is that professional journalists have removed information from the internet that has been subject to D-Notices and or Super injunctions. But this amateur journalist who Maxincony somehow knew was a Piano tuner in real life, had saved information that then remained the only source left available that came up when I Googled the full address of Sergei Skripal.

          It shows that Maxincony can be inadvertently helpful to us, sometimes.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Richard, interesting tale.

      Am afraid the possible true story is now looking far more mundane. There was some interesting news released at the start of last week.

      Apparently Porton Down has been very busy on something other than Novickok, according to BBC Gardeners’ Question Time.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Any relation to Gina Miller?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        More like water butts than butting in to a democratic process, I am led to believe, Thatch.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    When the Graun gets behind the conservatives, start checking.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – I’ve seen some of the DCMS committee and sad to say the Tory chair in an embarrassment to his party. It is loaded with remainers and I think the only reason Mr Banks attended before it was to put it in its place . Ever since the vendetta has grown in intensity .

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      • Guest Who says:

        Committees, inquiries, etc.

        A major watershed for me was the Whittless-headed one that started promisingly enough but soon ended up a BBC love-in, with the Chair shutting up any members with the audacity to raise some concerns on bbc unaccountable abuses.

        Then of course there was a more recent one when the committee was rammed with MPs who all looked fondly back at their BBC pensions. Most Tory, iirc.

        So as stitch ups go, the bbc, Graun, Tories, Labour (take a bow, Messrs. Bradshaw and Purnell) seem to have sewn things up quite effectively.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The ever-forensic Craig has a nifty post in complement.

        http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2018/07/mad-world.html

        Including an old friend, sorely missed.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Guest Who
      As an erstwhile, long time reader and strong believer in the impartiality of The Guardian and The Observer I now think I was the victim? nah- DUPE- of a huge confidence trick.

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  18. Scroblene says:

    I also blame wide PC screens for the mayhem during the silly season.

    The Telegraph is now a shadow of what it once was, with feeble old farts wandering around without a thought in their ageing heads. The Express isn’t much better and The Mail is content with every bird with a large arse, ‘stepping out’. (shagging), or being ‘consoled’ (shagging), or enjoying a glass of champagne (post-shagging) and the rest. The blokes doen’t even look tired, so I suppose all that shagging hadn’t really happened yet… (did it ever)?

    So my answer is, get a cornflakes packet, open it up with a sharp knife (only of you haven’t taken strong drink), Sellotape two side bars and prop it over the screen!

    Marvellous – just see the news and no bonking/boobs/shagging/linacres/abbotts/Joecorbyns and all the other trash!

    Peace reigns, and another glass of single malt appears at my elbow, poured by a loving wife after a lovely Sunday phone call from a gorgeous daughter…

    But Countryfile is turned off permanently nowadays. Silly and uninteresting.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Scrob
      Being of the BASC fraternity “countryfile “ was seen as an enemy long before I discovered this site . Single malt is definitely an appropriate remedy.

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    I’m thinking of starting a game called ‘ guess the next project fear propaganda” post brexit .

    I suggested earlier in the week that light and air would be rationed . Today the army is on standby ( what army ? )

    And we ll all die because there will be no meds

    But what about the next story ? Cross channel power outage ?
    No more Eurovision ? Water supply stopped because they are all French companies -? Lidl , Aldi and ikea to leave Blighty ?

    All got to be on the cards – with al beeb cheerfully pumping out the soros poison .

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Fedup2
      Ha fucking Ha. By that time I shall be in eternal sleep and the rest of you can bask in either Muslim or Jewish sunshine. Who knows, perhaps I will even meet our Lord Jesus Christ and maybe learn a few things that our owners refuse to divulge.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Lefty
        We all go when we are due I suppose .
        I was hoping that people might guess the next propaganda strand . It easy to play on anti Islam on anti Jewish sentiments but as some might say – Our Lord may well have been more than a bit Jewish

        Declaration – I am not Jewish but I did go on holiday to Eliat once.

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        • Lefty Wright says:

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Lefty
            Thanks – pretty girl isn’t she . ? But awful timing . Lenny Bruce is long dead – but every one has to earn a living . Surprised she hadn’t been on The Now Show . ….

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          • G.W.F. says:

            Lefty Wright
            Looking forward to seeing her comedy routine on Mohamid

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        • David R says:

          To mention BBC bias for once. I don’t suppose many remember Michael Elkins who was the Jerusalem Correspondent of the BBC and was, IMMSMC the last correspondent they had who was not biased pro- or anti-Israel. His diction was impeccable (and he was New Yorkv born) to a degree that nobody in the BBC factual or dramatic productions ever is today.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            David’
            Yes I remember him- unfortunately al beeb just looks for the easy narrative of Israel bad bad – Palestinians and terrorist groups good . Lack or balance or explanation .

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    Sopel had done a ‘Q and A ‘ in the guardian Sunday . If ever there is a foreign correspondent in need of a new posting it is he.
    Perhaps the West Indies – Jamaica – would be good for him . Or Hungary , Italy or coming soon … Sweden .

    I was surprised to see that the guardian allowed comments and that there are plenty of people noting the anti President Trump bias of an al beeb correspondent who is dragging down the reputation of his employer in foreign parts .

    Seems quite a few guardian types wake up in the morning and check to see whether President Trump is still alive . Funny how The Left can be so embracing but then murderous .

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    • RobRoy says:

      Fedup2, strange isn’t it that the left like to put across how caring and touchy-feely they all are. Yet I can safely say with hand on heart, the most vindictive, nasty, self-serving people I’ve ever met have all been on the left. In the early 80s I went through a leftie stage and got involved with my NALGO union branch – what I saw and heard at those meetings turned me off the hypocritical bastards for life.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Rob
        Yes – and the left does use the word ‘extreme ‘ a lot when by any objective judgement – checking the internet regularly to see if the President of the USA has been assassinated – might be considered a bit ‘extreme ‘.

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  21. Guest Who says:

    What would the chap at the entrance to W1A say…. “some clubs are more exclusive than others”?

    #CCBGB

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    • Dystopian says:

      Maybe they are learning self defence to fend off child rapists-just saying.

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  22. Guest Who says:

    “Why are some people in Sweden hiding Afghan asylum seekers in their homes?”

    bbc.in/2OqSdtx

    And why are some no longer answering the door?

    #CCBGB

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  23. pugnazious says:

    A perfect illustration of the ignorance of what is actually happening on the ground as well as a complete failure to understand how migrants think and behave…the BBC displays the same ignorance but it is deliberate as is their wilful failure to understand the real consequences of mass immigration of totally alien people and cultures…..from The Hill in the US talking about EU migration….

    ‘…..it has not worked out well for Germany. According to a study conducted by the Zurich University of Applied Sciences, the German state of Lower Saxony has experienced a 10.4 percent increase in violent crime.
    German criminologists claim that the best way to prevent violent crime among migrants is to provide them with better integration opportunities. It also could help if Germany allowed them to be reunited with their families. Germany recently limited family reunifications.
    In view of Europe’s low natural population growth rate, refugee family reunification could be a great benefit by adding to the birth rate in the EU. In the first half of the 1960s, the population of the EU increased by only 0.8 percent a year, and the birth rate is even lower now.’

    Yes, the solution to non-integration is to import more people of the same foreign culture who then have absolutely no incentive to integrate as they can settle into their own isolated ghettoes complete with families…the ever increasing numbers of which mean that eventually the immigrants start to feel strong enough to attack the host nation, violently or by trying to undermine its society, culture and history…as is happening in Britain…with the aid of the BBC and the left-wing activists who hate all things white and British….despite telling us, as they rewrite history, that Britain has always been more black and Muslim than white and ‘British’….so empire, imperialism and colonialism must be the fault of all those Black/Muslim inhabitants of these isles as they invented everything and provided us with culture, science, morality and politics that were totally absent before they arrived here and took over in some long distant past alternate history.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      Of all places – the krauts have a track record of getting rid of the people they don’t like. ( cut and paste time maxi )

      Or maybe ikea can produce ready made minorettes

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    Guest
    Listened to some of it – thanks – but I hope the Swedes will wake up to the real world and adopt an Italian type government with a ‘ Sweden first ‘ approach and not accept any seekers of asylum or anything else .hard border and immediate deportation being the ideal. Will give al beeb something to moan about ..

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  25. Deborah says:

    10pm news, Sunday BBC1 Ahed Tamimi given martyr treatment. It is obvious that the BBC see her as a heroine for taunting and hitting an Israeli soldier. I just felt sick to the stomach that a photogenic young woman (or child as she would have been called by the BBC had she been injured) should be so idolised.

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    Deb
    Let’s face it – Labour is anti Israel and anti any religion apart from Islam – – like al beeb – h aving been infiltrated by Wahhabism so it’s the likely outcome . . The evidence is clear to see if you compare the numbers of supporters of the false prophet mo against the numbers in Blighty who would profess to follow the Judeochristian basis of our society . When the current head of the Church of England dies people will say ‘ what was she thinking ?’

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  27. pugnazious says:

    Ex BBC R4 controller, Mark Damazer, blows smoke up our backsides as he tries to hoodwink us into believing he is a fair and even-handed critic of the BBC. He writes in the New Statesman that the Remainers are wrong to complain about BBC coverage of Brexit, the BBC’s coverage was pretty exemplary in the circumstances, a few minor quibbles aside….then we get to his real point…the real problem with BBC coverage was their failure to deal with the Brexiteers’ lies.

    ‘The BBC is thought by a great many, not least some around Messrs Cameron and Osborne, to have lost its nerve when faced with a barrage of untruths – the prize specimens being the £350m-a-week whopper and the prospective arrival of all those Turks…..not much – not enough – time was given to hearing, and then challenging fairly, what subsequently became “Brexit voices”.’

    Errrr….The BBC relentlessly challenged and ridiculed the Brexiteers on the £350m and immigration including Turkey…but trouble is the Brexiteers were right….even the BBC ‘Reality Check’ admitted the figure was in fact £361m gross. And as for Turkey…we all know Cameron and the EU wants Turkey to join…it is just a matter of time and then what?

    So, Damazer suggests, the BBC knew the Brexiteers were making it up but didn’t have enough time or interest to challenge them…

    ‘Most Brexiteers have from the outset asserted that BMW – and thus by lazy inference, Germany – would not stand for any outcome that made it harder to export to the UK (or, à la Boris, claimed that Prosecco producers in northern Italy would revolt if denied easy access to fizz-loving Britons). To test this, Today’s Nick Robinson has had an occasional Europe away day, but the BBC is largely uninterested in the perspectives of European nation states. Westminster does matter, a lot, and is genuinely more exciting and entertaining. No space left. ‘

    Of course the internationalist, no borders, BBC is uninterested in the nation states of Europe…it only has ears for Drunker and Barnum…more interested in, and giving more sigificance to, what they say than in what British politicians have to say.

    Damazer rounds it all off with proof of his own beliefs as he urges the BBC to ‘fact check’ the figures and show how insignificant our contribution to the EU is…..in other words it’s almost free and of so much benefit to us…vote Remain…odd how he gets so upset about the tiny £350m figure then…surely such a small insignificant number could not have swayed anybody’s voting?…..

    ‘ As for the stats, the problem was not that the £350m nonsense went unchallenged but that there was, and is, almost no attempt to compare the sum with public spending as a whole or even GDP. So politicians parrot that we are “taking back control of our money” as part of the elevator pitch for Brexit, when the question is: how much money? The answer, even before the rebate of around £80m a week is taken into account, is less than 2 per cent of public expenditure and much less than 1 per cent of GDP.

    The BBC has people who are trying to get this stuff right, but there is work to be done. Over to the director general. ‘

    Liked that pompous last line. Any bets there is a flurry of concerned letters from BBC employees and those who have jumped ship but still work behind the scenes on the BBC’s behalf [those at Cardiff University spring to mind] heading towards Lord Hall’s desk demanding he support a second referendum….pushing at an open door one might think.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, is it just me or have I noticed a sudden change on BBC R4’s Any Questions that when the Panel are introduced, how they voted in the EU Referendum is mentioned. Strangely, there now seem to be balanced Panels with two Remainers and two, sort of Leave, Leavers.

      And the audience has suddenly gone quiet as well. Or is that wax in may ears?

      I wonder.

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  28. chrisH says:

    I wonder when-indeed if-Radio 4 will ever again actually give us a Christian “Sunday Service” again, as anybody would recognise it.
    This morning had some BBC poppet on a freebie about “pilgrimage”.
    Of course, she went to Assisi, Walsingham being a bit-well,” near” and stale I suppose.
    Basically, a free puff for Gandhis methods and cuddling a donkey.
    Recycle, give your money to cheridee as she would (surely), and tread lightly on Gaias sad face. And no walls either-Pope Francis` one at the Vatican is not to be regarded as typical.
    Utter crap-like Dianne Louise Jordan in a helium balloon.
    Jesus is a floating gas. Islam best not mentioned.

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  29. BRISSLES says:

    Just watched Ed Balls (thru slitted fingers) on BBC2 in Trump country. God, the bloke is no Alan Wicker, but the Beeb are clearly trying to keep him in work. He is not humorous, a rubbish interviewer and about as much personality as a lump of wood. Its not even that Trump is the subject matter, he’d be the same if he was guiding us around Cambridge. Even Michael Portillo is infinitely more watchable. As for the programme, it was the usual attempted hatchet job on Trump, so no surprises there.

       38 likes

    • pugnazious says:

      Suspect the BBC employ Balls to give them a bit of distance between them and the usual anti-Trump chorus that comes from them, can’t be seen to be attacking him too often through their own ‘journalism’…so blame the amateur….not forgetting he is married to Yvette cooper…who may be prospective Labour leader, maybe sooner than we think…and so why not keep close in order to stay on the inside and maybe even influence things….all very Murdoch no? Maybe we should get Leveson to have a look?

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    • vlad says:

      Thank you for watching, and keeping the rest of us informed.

      It’s a filthy job, but someone’s gotta do it.

      Now go take a long hot shower. And scrub well: b.b.bullshit sticks.

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  30. Cassandra says:

    “More than five million people across England are unable to book an appointment with a GP outside of working hours.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44938759

    This photograph is used to illustrate the story.

    _102751168_doctorgetty.jpg

    Does anyone have a work colleague that dresses like the patient, sat by someone in a cinema that dresses like the patient or had a conversation about the weather with someone who dresses like the patient?

    Perhaps the patient and people who dress like her and hold the same beliefs as her are responsible for the crisis in the health service, housing and education systems.

    BTW do you think the patient in the photograph had to arrange her appointment after she finished work (perhaps she’s a town planner or is a firefighter; I’d love to know).

       46 likes

    • vlad says:

      But I’d been led to believe by the beebistan that the veiled ones were the doctors and whities were the eternally grateful patients. What’s going on?

         23 likes

    • JimS says:

      And the non-male needle-wielder probably works part-time and is expecting to retire at 35… not that any of that could make it hard to get an appointment.

         20 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Cassandra. Yes. But it will be black. Black and lacy.

      In North London, some Greek Orthodox ladies in mourning for a husband or child dress like that from the date of death to the end of the mourning period, which I think comes 91 days later.

      The Phlebotomists in London tend not to wear just stripy tank tops either. Perhaps because it being a hot city has led to GPs having air conditioning as well as in the hospitals.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      And how many of her family are in the room with her out of shot? There to protect her honour.

         10 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        DS, unnecessary, I would have thought with female nurse. Plus, the decoration on the headdress makes me wonder if the patient might be Ethiopian Christian or even a dark-skinned Middle Eastern Christian.

        Impossible for a mere male like me to tell.

        Not sure why discussion of the pic is important. The headline tells it all. BBC FakeNews or FalseNews.

        Any employer ‘worth their salt’ would allow a sick employee or one needing some help, time off during the working day for a GP appointment. Large employers might even employ a nurse for basic care & emergencies in situ, if say, everyone is in one large building as in many cases in central London.

        Speaking of which, I notice on my return visits that GP Practices and Dentists have returned to the City of London and its immediate environs. They existed there in the 1950s and 1960s but almost totally disappeared in the 1970s, 80s, 90s and 00s. Now they are on a comeback.

        This is not only FakeNews/FalseNews from the BBC (I can tell without reading the item) it demonstrates a stupidity and lack of thinking by the people at the BBC who put it up.

        A good example as to why newspapers should not be supported by any taxes.

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  31. AsISeeIt says:

    Sit comfortably and forget about England

    BBC tv news this morning reverts to a typical form of “Radio-4-lite” – you’ll know what I mean – unabashed middle class bien-pensant achingly right-on sham liberalism.

    We went through the card: from a reminder to get sniffy about zoo animal cruelty in far off sunny holiday resorts; via inordinate celebration of one-hit-wonder, prissy feminised English Lit alienate and bore the boys to tears set book fall back of the nineteenth century Emily Brontë; to the late twentieth century middle England pin-up Kate Bush.

    Meanwhile I’m sure others hereabouts have noticed how according to our BBC Wiggins and Froome did it for Britain whilst Geraint does it for… Wales…

    And about those podium girlies in the matching yellow dresses… come on BBC there’s a challenge…

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  32. Guest Who says:

    Seems everyone’s favourite Mini-star has made a Foe-par.

    Wonder if the bbc will berate Jeremy NaughtieMarr for referring to his wife as Asian, instead of… Asian?

       8 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      What seems more awkward are the comments ripping the bbc a new one.

         0 likes

      • vlad says:

        Anything to do with race sends the beeb into paroxysms of political correcteness and indignation. They’re even sort of implying he’s racist.
        Slip of the tongue, beeb, get over it ffs.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    Todays SJW TV
    7:30pm BBC1 prog abut female lorry drivers presentd by Angela Rippon
    8pm choice BBC2 Nadiya or ………. C4 prog about Breastfeeding
    10:45pm ITV : Long Lost Family has a transgender searcher
    9pm BBC4 : Black Artists
    10-11pm Repeat of Women’s Week progs

       16 likes

  34. Peter Grimes says:

    Just heard Roy Greenslade on Toady suggesting that the taxpayer should paysubsidies to newspapers because of their public service benefit.Sounds as though the Grauniad rag wants the same easy ride as its broadcast arm Al Beeb!

       19 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Indeed, PG, your ears did not mislead you.

      Free market economy. What free market economy?

      That’s the standard Lefty response “We are owed a living” to hard times.

      In the 1990s the newspapers did really well. The majors had Editors earning £500K and up, usually with attendant packages of health scheme, bonus & share options.

      They are now getting ‘bit’ by the market and want to buck the market but their solution is to bite the taxpayer instead.

      No way!

         12 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Peter ,
      If I remember correctly Greenslade went of to uni . He has obviously drank in too much ‘ dependency ‘ air . State supported newspapers . Judging by the illegally funded local authority rag they’d be like Pravda .

      I think the al beeb subscriptions to The Guardian must be the main think keeping it alive – indeed it probably already is State funded

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    • Ed Hitter says:

      Greenslade most likely talking about subsidising local newspapers where so many journalists have lost their jobs. These are the reporters who spend their time covering all those apparently dull council meetings, court hearings, tribunals etc. that enable the rest of us to find out what’s going on and hold authorities to account. In other words, that essential part of local democracy that no amount of clickbait websites and social media will ever cover.

         6 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Ed ,
        If you saw the lefty local authority paper put out in my area you’d wish the damn thing to close . The council is corrupt – full of third worlders employing each other and giving contracts to relatives without a word from the local rag .

        It takes independent bloggers to get anything like the truth now.

           5 likes

  35. Guest Who says:

    “Just part and parcel…”

       18 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      ‘What are the government going to do to prevent type-1 diabetics dying’

      – appeal for urgent aid from Médecins Sans Frontières ?

         9 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Head of news at ITN/C4 Oliver King tweeted a link yesterday says
      \\ Here’s just one example why: we make no insulin in the UK.
      We import every drop of it.
      You can’t transport insulin around ordinarily because it must be temperature-controlled.
      And there are 3.5 million people [with diabetes, some of whom] rely on insulin, not least the prime minister. //

      Not that hyper paragraph is preceded by this note
      “…the MHRA press office later insisted that his comments were made “in a personal capacity” and were not representative of the body’s position.”

      A diabetic replies : “The expiry date on the insulin in my fridge 2020”
      .. We do have quite a few fridges in the UK
      And anyway some maybe specialist insulin is made in the UK

      – Under WTO insulin is zero tariff

      – I see claims that US companies make our insulin, true , but they do it in the EU.

         9 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        The Sky news bod lays into the ITN bod

           11 likes

      • theisland says:

        David Vance is diabetic and says insulin IS manufactured in the UK.

           5 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Of course it’s laughable to say that a truck load of insulin will be turned away at Dover.

      There is a also an issue of bulk insulin vs retail packs of insulin

         3 likes

      • JamesArthur says:

        It’s project fear 2.1
        There are at least 4 manufacturers of Insulin in the UK, and although Germany & Franc do have a strong position there are countries outside the EU that could supply
        The 3.5 million is 90% type 2, the majority of which do not use insulin
        Also a statistic that rarely gets mentioned “children of Asian origin were 8.7 times more likely to have Type 2 diabetes than their White counterparts
        counterparts and children of Black origin were 6.2 times more likely”
        Men of Pakistani origin are 9 times more likely to have Type 2.than general population – with all of the associated costs..I am just stating a diabetes UK fact, no inferences made

           10 likes

        • JimS says:

          “I am just stating a diabetes UK fact, no inferences made”

          Extremist! Why can’t you learn to integrate like our returning Brummy jihadists?

          How long before ‘hate facts’ become a crime?

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  36. G.W.F. says:

    BBC bias by omission?
    See if they report this from the Times
    Muslims only count as refugees.

    Not a single Christian was among the 1,112 Syrian refugees resettled in the UK in the first three months of this year, the Home Office has admitted.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-christians-in-uks-syrian-refugee-intake-9c8jkbrv6

       25 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      Clear evidence that the wahabi s run the Home Office now – and al beeb

         21 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        I see al beeb is fixated with Rhodesia again . One corrupt dictator being replaced by another . Each ready to blame whitey for their own inability to run a country .

        I don’t suppose they are worth a free trade deal

           20 likes

    • vlad says:

      Shame on the treacherous HO.

         7 likes

  37. StewGreen says:

    SJW Radio
    9:45am Book of the week just happens to be written and read by Charlotte Higgins the chief culture writer of the Guardian
    10am Woman’s Hour
    – Love Island ..body image
    – What is it like to parent a child experiencing gender dysphoria?
    – new BBC4 documentary about the history of British artists of African and Asian descent
    10:45 Daily drama : trans teenager Amy has just finished her GCSEs and is waiting for her results. She’s been taking hormone blockers since she was 11
    11am Asam Aziz started a halal chicken restaurant and called it Fernandos.
    But then, in March, a letter arrived from Nandos’ lawyers – it stated that Fernandos was in breach of the company’s copyright. Not only with the name, but with the Portuguese Chicken Barcelos symbol he’d chosen as his logo,
    (I find July 2018 “Reading chicken shop rebrands following spat with Nando”)
    12:15pm : Sustainable fashion
    : How you can’t drive your car in certain French cities unless you have the correct emissions sticker : don’t buy a fake one
    8pm : Sovereignty – what is it? How old is it? What colour is it?

       22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      Priceless – thank you . I’m guessing that listening numbers are on decline ….

         15 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Remain propaganda

        I heard a scrap on Toady where Humph gave up this morning between some sh-t from the Charity Greenpeace and a representative from the IEA – a right Think tank charity .

        So the next attack line by Soros is to go after any pro brexit NGO / charity .

        I suppose they’ll hack the UKIP membership database and publish names addresses and bank details next –

        Then personal targeting of brexit supporting MPs on top of Frank Field and Kate Hoey .

        Horrible

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Fedup almost all R4 progs are the metro-lib bubbleworld. At 9:30am in #BringingUpBritain Tim Samuels had a line
        “What’s really important for men and their identity is their work
        & in this economy with this level of INEQUALITY, you see how that leads to an anger, amongst men who’re excluded
        & the drift to RADICAL politics whether it’s Trump in America
        or the far-right in Europe
        is underpinned by men who are economically on their downers
        .. & feel rage and anger
        .. & it’s a really toxic force
        ” (minute 34)
        ..hang on their Tim
        #1 Voting for Trump is not extremist; it is entirely normal to want to drain the swamp.
        #2 “Far right” is just a smear word, cos people rarely use that term to define themselves … thy are just people concerned about culture and immigration laws. The media don’t apply the smear labels to dogmatic people on the left.

        #3 inequality caused , that a bizarre assertion “Oh you wouldn’t support Trump or Nationalism if you were rich”

        The irony is the topic of the prog was “dealing with aggression”, yet it is weird how how Metro-libs are the ones who are VERY aggressive on Social Media

        The prog used a term “Ben has ODD oppositional defiance disorder”
        … Jesus. Previously known as naughty children

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    • Despairada says:

      StewGreen

      I turned off when he started describing his prayer activities, which he takes so seriously, and we are supposed to be so impressed, apparently.

      Is there any chance of a BBC program about Halal*, not just meat but the whole certification thing. I want to avoid the lot on the grounds of principle.

      Recently, I was talking to someone about Warburton’s and Kingsmill bread both having halal certification and how I would never buy those. Then I wondered about supermarket own bread. Who makes it for the supermarkets? Even small independent bakers might use halal certified flour. I have tried to find lists online but without much success.

      *Rhetorical question. If there was one it would be an advert in favour.

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  38. vlad says:

    More than half the country voted Brexit.
    More than half the country voted Conservative.
    The majority still love their country and do not want trendy, lefty, ultra-liberal, SJW, ideological issues shoved down their throat, be it militant femin-ism, trans-ism, gay-ism, immigration-ism, international-ism, islam-ism, BME-ism etc etc etc.

    So why in God’s name are they still subsidising the pro Remain, pro Labour, anti-British, globalist, pro trans, fem, gay, islam, BME etc beebistan??

    Rise up, stop paying the extortion tax, YOU have the power to overthrow the rotten anti-British Corporation NOW!

       39 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Vlad, it is surprising how little I miss TV in the Internet age.

      The only thing I really miss is golf.

      If I still watched TV, come Olympics time, then I would watch some badminton and table tennis. Perhaps some important footie games and tennis, also. Motor racing (F1) has gone off, so I don’t miss that at all.

      Visual arts and retro stuff around music, etc., is the other thing but that’s all available via the Internet as well.

      One of the things that made me give up TV was the advent of Big Brother on C4. I could see where that would lead and sure enough, less than two decades later, lo and behold – Love Island.

      I added up how much TV I watched back in the early 2000s. To be fair, some decent programme series were still going, eg ER, Frasier, West Wing, and it was still possible to see regular good movies. The total came out at around twenty hours per week including news/current affairs/politics plus ‘arts’ programmes.

      Not only have I saved £150 per year, I have an extra day per week, nearly, in my life most of which I waste on here.

      Doh!

      But I do recommend giving up TV and the Licence Fee.

         16 likes

  39. Worthing Gooner says:

    The BBC making its own news this morning.
    Radio 5 interviewer ask Olympic Gold medalist Eleanor Barker “Should Geriaint Thomas get a Knighthood”. She replied that she hadn’t thought about it until asked, but yes it might be a good idea.
    The next radio sport news bulletin leads on “Calls this morning for Geriaint Thomas to be Knighted”

       24 likes

  40. Fedup2 says:

    Seems like the so-called ‘supreme court’ has gone one step further to authorising euthanasia of ‘brain dead’ people without judicial oversite .
    That will get plenty more inconvenient people on the Liverpool deathway and free up some beds.

    Life is only sacred when someone wants to to be

       17 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Fedup2
      These patients are not brain dead, which is an objective state to diagnose if done correctly. They still retain a functioning brainstem, with damage affecting the higher regions of the brain.
      The victims in the case are patients in a Persistent Vegetative State, described as ‘awake but unaware, with ability to consume food and liquids, retain body temperature, respond to painful stimuli, having sleep-wake cycles. Unlike brain death there can be a spectrum with some states more or less severe than others. Research has been going on into improving their condition and there have been claims of limited success. You can bet this will stop. Adding to the lack of clarity is the proposal to include ‘minimally conscious states’, whatever they are.
      The BBC tells us that there are 24,000 PVS patients and getting rid of these ‘useless eaters’ (Hitler’s expression) is simple – dehydrate and starve them to death
      There are strong ethical objections which ought to be aired, but watch the BBC dismiss them as religious beliefs.

         7 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        G
        I used ‘brain dead’ as a short cut to a whole list of levels of response and cognition – sorry .

        I know that life can be treated as cheap when people want that . Killing babies is routine and now at the other end of life – killing by neglect will be the same .
        Once that is settled others who unproductive to the state – or don’t comply with the requirements of the state can go on the list .
        I’ll have a look at the judgement and wonder if there were any dissenters but I’m guessing not.
        Ironic that the judges making this decision will be wealthy enough to have their own medical support when needed as opposed to some old person who the medics notice has no visitors or no next of kin when they become a nuisance in hospital….

        In the mean time Albeeb chucks teddy in the corner because cannabis oil wasn’t available on tap for someone with a fairly short life expectancy ….

           5 likes

        • G.W.F. says:

          Fedup2

          I’ve been on to the BBC regarding brain death, and criteria for harvesting organs post mortem since their 1980 Panorama programme which told blatent lies about people being alive when their organs were removed, and being diagnosed as brain dead in an ambulance. It was probably the worst BBC medical programme ever, and damage to the transplant programme was immense. It partly explains why I am here and why I watch the lying bastards like a hawk.

          https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/3fd26dfb87f845c2b751037e7667e11b

             4 likes

        • Beebophobic says:

          Very good points, FedUp2. What on Earth happens to isolated, frail, elderly or indeed any age patients who fall into this category, people with no family or friends nearby ? It is a terrifying prospect. So we had Liverpool Pathway, in which hospitals were rewarded for “hitting” targets, which effectively meant they were rewarded for killing elderly patients who were not necessarily near the end of their lives. Famous case of a fit, health lively and active 83 year old lady who went in to hospital about 5 or 6 years ago with a urinary tract infection, nothing too serious. She was put on Liverpool Pathway and died. That , to me is murder. Then we had the 1200 or more deaths by negligence at Mid-Staffs hospital, the estimated 650 who were killed off by Dr Jane Barton and co at Gosport (have read the report online) and several other major NHS scandals. I reckon this new ruling should only be applied where the patient has no prospect of recovery, no quality of life, no sensory perception, etc and where ALL family and Doctors are in agreement. Makes me scared to be in hospital alone in the event of a bad accident.

             2 likes

  41. Doobster78 says:

    Sky news going all in this morning. They have polled 1500 London folk and come up with this ….

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1023860521970421761

    Utterly pathetic

       22 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Comments don’t look like they are going same way…A poll in London eh..well that’s representative :-)))

         22 likes

  42. Beltane says:

    Dear Sir, Madam, Ms, etc. etc. etc.
    I voted to leave the European Union and appear to be classed as mentally deficient as a direct result. Please supply my Blue Badge free parking application form by return. Many thanks.

       38 likes

  43. dafydd says:

    CH4 latest.

    And we thought the BBC were bad

    https://order-order.com/2018/07/30/channel-4-news-impartiality-latest/

       11 likes

  44. pugnazious says:

    Last 5 minutes of Today was the usual BBC ‘1984’ take on ‘fake news’ with two like-minded commentators who were fully on-board with the narrative…the author of ‘Post-truth’ couldn’t help himself but mention Trump with every breath. No-one there to bring a bit of sanity to the discussion. Naturally the DCMS report and the Electoral Commission got name-checked for their brilliant work in defending democracy from the monsters of Silicon Valley, Nigel Farage’s alt-right army of trolls and those who only want a ‘hyper-partisan’ world.

    So who is defending Democracy? Not the BBC of course, anything but.

    In fact none of these groups, the DCMS, the Electoral Commission, the BBC and various politicians, were defending Democracy, the truth is they were doing their best to undermine and destroy it, rigging the system so that their, and only their, world view dominated the narrative.

    The DCMS report was entirely corrupt, a more ‘hyper-partisan’ piece of dissembling you couldn’t really get. So one-sided you had to lean so far to the left to read it you fell off your chair. It was written purely from a pro-Remain, anti-Leave perspective, its targets were the Leave campaigns, Facebook, Trump and Russia….absolutely nothing about Remain’s barrage of lies which continue to this day, nothing about Remain’s financing, advertising or use of social media, nothing of course, about the BBC’s misuse of its resources and abuse of its dominant position to push a pro-EU message.

    Then there is the Electoral Commission whose report into the Leave campaigns and Facebook was a masterclass in hypocrisy, dishonesty and incompetence being so obviously designed to find Vote Leave and Darren Grimes guilty it was nothing more than a kangaroo court, a show trial worthy of anything Stalin could conjure up for the cameras.

    Then we have the real fake news, the all too real events that are having such a devastating effect upon our Democracy as they shatter trust in politicians and the System, thus confirming, ironically, the reasons behind Trump and Brexit as our very own Prime Minister orchestrates a massive fraud upon, not just those who voted for Leave, but even those who voted Remain, as they are betrayed by a political class and supposedly social elite who seek to stop Brexit in its tracks and, if they can’t stop it completely, are willing to sabotage it so completely that it totally undermines Britain’s negotiating position and power and puts us at the mercy of the EU who will impose far worse conditions upon whatever subservient membership May and Co sees fit to serve up as a ‘good deal’. May has lied continually throughout the last two years and as you see her government scurrying around desperately pushing the message that a ‘no deal’ would be a disaster for Britain, the hope being we just fold and accept her plan, her white flag, her bad deal, you know she was blatantly lying when she grandstanded loudly with the message that ‘No deal was better than a bad deal’.

    The politicians have lied to the voters, betrayed them and sold them out to a foreign power. They have worked assiduously to undermine and thwart one of the biggest democratic votes this country has had and have done enormous damage to Britain’s national interests.

    Odd how the DCMS, the Electoral Commission and the BBC are totally uninterested in that very real side to the story…they prefer to blatantly hunt down Leave figures such as Dominic Cummings or Boris or Aaron Banks in orchestrated attacks going so far as to create a totally false crisis about Cambridge Analytica which had nothing to do with Brexit but was clearly useful to the Guardian and the BBC in order to kick-start a storm of controversy about supposed dirty tricks by the Leave side and social media…completely ignoring the Remain campaign and its massive fabrication of Project Fear which continues to this day as we are warned that the Army is on stand-by for a ‘no-deal Brexit’. Remain politicians and those who want to control social media and censor the narratives on it to suit their own agendas rapidly adopted this anti-Leave, anti-social media theme and are using it to subvert democracy, the free flow of information and freedom of speech.

    If we really need an inquiry into such things perhaps the real targets should be the BBC, the Guardian, the politicians like Damian Collins and Anna Soubry, not forgetting May, and the Electoral Commission who have done so much to destroy trust in the system and have used it to entrench their own positions and power rather than for the interest of the people of this country. Lock ’em up!

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      P
      17.4 million likes.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      There will never be an inquiry .

      As I’ve said here -.the orchestrated series of counter brexit propaganda goes along every day so that at some stage
      They’ll all be listed
      No smoke without fire
      Annul the referendum
      Get the correct vote next time

      Hopefully with the clock ticking and only two months left using the imposed ReichEU timetable
      Time will run out .

      The real test of resolve will be the realisation. – by the ReichEU – that time is running out for negotiation and we will leave with our own cash and not pays their bribes . That, I guess , is September / October .

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    • pugnazious says:

      Lord Owens in the Telegraph….

      ‘It’s a stultifyingly hot day, not even the whisper of a breeze to stir the Thames at Limehouse, but it’s not just the weather which has got Lord Owen hot under the collar.

      “I think Parliament has let down the country,” he thunders, “Parliamentarians are a miserable lot, frankly. I I think they were gripped by a religion and they can’t stop believing in it. And they have really managed to convince themselves that they are entitled in a strange way to thwart Brexit. They forget that they voted for the referendum, over 500 of them. Parliament has to accept it has gone out of their hands But they can’t.’

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  45. pugnazious says:

    Here’s as story that somehow passed me by…the BBC has labelled Catholicism a ‘religion of hate’…this is the BBC of course that labelled Buddhism a ‘religion of violence’ due to events in Myanmar [though if it had been Muslims attacking Buddhists I’m sure the BBC narrative would have been one of Muslims defending their society, culture and religion from Buddhist supremacists trying to take over] whilst naturally telling us that the extremely violent religion of Islam is in fact a ‘religion of peace’.

    ‘ ‘If you have a strong sense of the overriding moral superiority of your worldview, then the need to protect and advance it can seem the most important duty of all….So, historically, Buddhism has been no more a religion of peace than Christianity.’’

    BBC Scotland video says Holy Communion ‘smells like hate’

    ‘The Bishop of Paisley has criticised BBC Scotland after a video said Holy Communion “tastes like cardboard and smells like hate”.

    The video was posted on the Facebook page of BBC The Social, a project aimed at young adults and managed by BBC Scotland, under the title “This is how homophobia feels in 2018”.

    At one point it depicts a priest holding a Mini Cheddar in a parody of the Host, and giving it to a woman who makes the sign of the cross. The narrator says Jesus “saved a lot of time when he died for our crimes, that he would’ve wasted teaching small minds that love is no sin”.

    He then looks at a street preacher, saying: “See him, he thinks it’s faith.” The video then cuts back to the women who received Communion and continues: “But under all that din, it tastes like cardboard and smells like hate”.’

    As the Bishop says…the BBC wouldn’t dare say this about Islam…

    ‘“The BBC has to be careful,” he added. “It has to ask itself if it has ceased to be a broadcaster in the public interest, and is just promoting particular interests.”

    “You cannot imagine it treating any other religion like this.”’

    The BBC so busy playing identity politics and dividing society into battling groups that it forgets its charter obligation to promote civil society and citizenship…it in fact does everything it can to promote and stoke division, conflict and contempt for British society and identity.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      That is serious and really Beyond bias . I have never really thought about making a formal complaint to al beeb but may well do so if the facts laid out are true – and from a look at the links you kindly provided -it appears so .
      The former State religion was replaced by the Cof E – now it seems that in turn is to be replaced by Islam . And it’s getting close to the time when anyone trying to stop it will be on the receiving end of a kangaroo court ( see TR).

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    • Beebophobic says:

      Truly appalling. How dare they try to undermine RC Church in that way. The treacherous bastards are always telling us how wonderful Islam is, when we all know that it is a sick death cult and a major threat to western civilisation and stability. One hopes such vile shit-stirring from the Beeb will act as a recruiting tool for all branches of the Christian church. Wouldn’t it be nice if someone from the CofE would come out and criticise the Beeb for this shameful piece of “journalism”.
      At the next Census in 2021, I urge everyone who would normally think of themselves as Agnostic or Atheist to call themselves Christian (in the cases where they are nominally from a Christian family). I am non-relgious but would consider myself culturally Christian and would certainly be out defending churches and synagogues and other non-Muslim places of worship if it comes to it in the future.

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  46. pugnazious says:

    C4 stoking project fear with tales of people dying in the street due to shortage of insulin #duetobrexit…you have to ask just how will the US cope when it leaves the EU…where will it get its insulin?

    ‘From 2004-2013, 20 countries made up 85-
    87 percent of the global value of retail insulin
    imports.
    Approximately 50 percent of global imports of
    retail insulin were from the US, UK, Germany,
    and Japan. In 2013: US 36.4 percent, China 7.9
    percent, Germany 7.9 percent, UK 5.6 percent,
    and Japan 5.5 percent.
    Between 2004-2013, import levels were quite
    constant in the UK, Germany, and Japan.
    However, imports doubled over that time period
    in the US.’

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  47. StewGreen says:

    Wired Magazine : Analysis of social media data shows that support for the #FreeTommy campaign is far from English
    #1 Sounds like they want to construct a narrative to say the issues TR covers have no UK support.
    “Only 40 per cent of the tweets using those hashtags came from UK users”
    … So ?
    #2 Seems to be the usual CutNpaste from the Brendan Cox’s Hatey No Hopers

    It allows no comments
    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tommy-robinson-free-tommy-twitter-data

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  48. Guest Who says:

    Not the bbc, but a great pitch by the Sky guy for Fran’s job:

    #CCBGB

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    • pugnazious says:

      Yeah GW…..Project Fear is working and May’s ‘suicide mission’ is paying off as her deliberately unworkable Chequers plan is widely derided by both sides and the EU…thus she hopes people will give up all hope and demand a vote to get us out of this mess of her own making, the result of which, again she calculates, will be to stay in the EU.

      I like Sky’s sly assertion that because people think May’s deal is bad they therefore don’t like ‘Brexit’…not true…they just want the Brexit they voted for and May’s plan is not that in the slightest part.

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  49. G.W.F. says:

    UKIP effectively banned from Twitter, looks like a second referendum is imminent at the riff raff is to be kept out of the debate.
    The BBC will soon be leading a campaign to restore freedom of speech in this important debate. er… maybe

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    • theisland says:

      Anne Marie Waters also

      @AMDWaters
      3h3 hours ago
      I’m the leader of a legitimate and registered political party @Twitter
      Can you please justify your censorship of me?

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  50. Eddy Booth says:

    Wheres the new weeks thread?
    Waiting for me to waste 5 mins adding text, links and photos and my comment, posting it here, and having it buried, I bet!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Eddy
      As comments have slowed down a bit I left the start the week one out . But to satisfy the customer I will now put one up which I think will run through to the weekend – unless – of course – events and al beeb change that …

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