Start The Week Open Thread Monday 23 July 2018

I can feel a Summer lull coming on – despite brexit – the whole BBC propaganda machine keeps chundering on so we must as well.

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  1. thirdoption says:

    The BBC are required by OFCOM to be impartial in their output.

    Fortunately for them they came up with a clever ruse:-

    1) Encourage all their highest paid broadcasters/presenters to set up private service companies and then employ them through that company rather than directly.

    2) Encourage those same highly paid broadcasters/presenters to now disregard any semblance of impartiality and openly state they support a second referendum.

    3) When questioned as to how their highly paid broadcasters/presenters can be allowed to show such blatant bias, state that there’s nothing they can do about it as the person concerned is not directly employed by the BBC but is freelance due to having set up a private service company.

    Gary Lineker and the BBC management – making a total mockery of rules that were clearly put in place to prevent this happening.


  2. StewGreen says:

    Times : The home secretary has ordered research into why men convicted of grooming-gang sex crimes are disproportionately of Pakistani origin //

    Spreads on to page 2
    And comment piece by David Aaronvitch

    Last night a Pakistani caller said
    “It’s Kashmiris, none of them come from Lahore”


  3. StewGreen says:

    Times link

    Javid’s comments were published on Sarah Champion’s blog.

    The Home office is quoted
    Home Office spokesman said that although the government “has always been clear that child sexual exploitation is not exclusive to any single culture, community, race or religion, political or cultural sensitivities must not get in the way” of tackling child abuse.

    “If evidence suggests that there are cultural factors that may be driving certain types of offending we are fully committed to addressing these.”

    Another quote
    Tom Delargy, a Marxist who this week demanded Dame Margaret Hodge’s expulsion from Labour after she accused Jeremy Corbyn of antisemitism, said that Ms Champion was a “vicious racist” who should be expelled.


    • Fedup2 says:

      White copper who had the criminal book thrown at him for trying to get a suspected dangerous ( black) man out of a car has been cleared of all three charges in a Londonistan crown court – you might remember the phone footage of the officer using a knife to break the car windows.
      I think the Londonistan police have decided that don’t want this copper any more as he now has a misconduct tribunal to face . Maybe he’d have done better as one of those’ cohesion officers ‘ mentioned of the previous thread . Silly season indeed.
      I found this in the Londonistan evening standard but usually the Londonistan evening local news avoids and does the ‘dogs / babies stuck in hot car’ story .


  4. StewGreen says:

    From Aaronovitch
    Criticising Muslims doesn’t make you a racist

    A web based survey ?
    \\ the results were probably, as one polling professional put it to me, “more like a petition than a survey”.//


    • StewGreen says:

      It continues
      \\ Every single time a Muslim or anyone else pops their head above the parapet to try to deal with some of the genuine problems the community faces, this toxic coalition emerges to try to cut it off.
      Heaven (and my inbox) knows there are enough true Islamophobes out there who need fighting and temporary ones who need dissuading.
      But these guys seem to be far more interested in undermining the dissuaders.
      Why? And why are excellent charities like Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust so undiscriminating in funding such negative work? //


    • StewGreen says:

      I don’t think DA wrote that article, cos it contains a lot of straight talk about Cage MEND and the Labour Party
      ..yet DA is a sneery MetroLib on Twitter.
      There’s a lot of comments , and it seems they are being premoderated.
      Most comments say ‘tell us something new”

      Indeed if Metro-libs had written such sensible articles in 2000 and 2002 then the UK would be quite different.


  5. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Today in the “facts are sacred” publication.
    I hope that I can save some BBBC readers from wasting their time.
    Frances Ryan – Disability correspondent, white men are to blame (WMATB).
    Owen Jones – Dedicated anus investigator, excusing Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin.
    Sophie Hagen – “comedian”, fat ugly bint with a chip on her shoulder.
    Dan Corry, professional parasite, more WMATB from the description, did not read the article (DNRTA).
    Richard Norton-Taylor, security correspondent, its the Tory’s fault (ITTF).
    Nicky Hawkins, common purpose traitor, does not have a photo of his/her/its/their (HHIT) self(ves) so gender(s) unknown, defending Ed Balls in drag, so HHIT must have been really naughty.
    Anand Menon, europhile trougher.
    Suw [sic] Charman-Anderson, feminist internationalist, article from yesterday, women invented everything.
    Parvais Jabbar, director of legal action charity based in a law firm [really], ISIS members are innocent and whiter than the driven, should not be sent to the hell hole that is the USA.
    Zenyep Guerin, academic, women have been helped by by IVF and all issues concomitant therewith WMATB.
    Erica Buist, freelance, “Let’s celebrate life at funerals”.
    Value added to society by these twats. Zero.
    Nothing by Monbiot, the only current Guardian journalist worth your time.
    There are more but to broaden my mind I turned to my 1960 “Roy of the Rovers” annual.


  6. Up2snuff says:

    Not the BBC and bias but as good as: the Guardian yesterday.

    What Andy fails to mention and conveniently overlooks, as a reason for why 1976 did not end too well for the UK, was that we had been members of the EU (in its then form as the EEC) from midnight on 31st December 1972.

    Our Balance of Payments, instead of being enhanced by membership of this great trading partnership, had IIRC worsened considerably from the already bad situation at the time of the June 1975 Referendum.

    Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit or a hot summer.

    Everything to do with the mistake of joining without giving full consideration to the consequences AND giving the Electorate the say in a Referendum beforehand.

    Slash of the Editor’s blue pencil. “Re-write, Mr Beckett, please.”


  7. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC are truly completely losing their tiny little minds.

    This is good for a laugh, as long as you are not of a scientific inclination and object strongly to the misuse of the word toxic.


    • flake says:

      It’s BBC 3, or III, with other such delights as “What is ‘thin privilege’ and who has it? ” and “Phallic fruit and the rise of ‘unporn’”. It’s like a spoof site


    • JamesArthur says:

      It is truly a WTF .. this is our world leading news organisation…we are doomed


  8. scribblingscribe says:

    Zoe Williams in the Guardian asks : How does the left get heard on the BBC?

    Well let’s start with the Politics Show she mentioned. Yes, Andrew Neil is right wing, but as she says, he gives everyone a hard time.

    His successor, Sarah Smith, is daughter of John Smith, the former Labour leader. It is co presented by Jo Coburn, who has been paid by the labour party, famously referred to ‘we’ when discussing problems with Labour politicians and is married to Mark Flanagan who was head of Tony Blair’s strategic communications for the Labour and Coalition UK Governments.

    The Daily Politics’s political correspondent is Laura Kuenssberg, whose family helps fund the Labour party. Her father personally funds individual Scottish Labour MPs.

    The Newsnight team was headed by a Guardian editor, Ian Katz, who appointed as his assistant another Guardian editor. They appointed a Guardian far left writer, Paul Mason, as economics correspondent. They replaced the political correspondent with the Guardian’s political correspondent, Nick Watt.

    Labour people move to the BBC, whilst BBC people move to the Labour Party. For example, Orla Guerin lost labour’s deposit when she stood as a far left candidate so went to the BBC as a journalist. Clive Lewis was a BBC journalist who went back to the Labour Party.

    The BBC works closely with the Labour Party at every election. For example, in the 2015 election, the BBC plotted with Ed Milliband’s team to coincide a series of sympathetic NHS docs to come out in the same week as Labour’s own NHS campaign.

    I could go on and on, and often do.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I had to do a double take when I saw that false winge . Then I realised that if there is even the slightest sign of dissent – even by Andrew Neill – who gives every one a hard time – they wish to crush it . And by screaming false bias they consolidate their hold on the media .

      I wonder how many journos read this site – day in day out evidence of news and output bias . Yes – people get angry – and rightly so – but I think this website presents a damn better account of the likes of al beeb than a paid mouthpiece of the guardian .


      • taffman says:

        You can bet your bottom dollar that journos read this site.
        That’s where modern day journos get the ‘heads up’ of what’s going on, especially Al Beeb’s media, internet savvy, news hounds and researchers.
        Anyone seen maxi …………?


      • BRISSLES says:

        Scrib, someone said earlier on here that most of the BBC jobs are advertised in the Guardian, so this Zoe woman clearly doesn’t read her own newspaper !


    • StewGreen says:

      James Purnell is head of BBC radio
      .. and is an ex Labour Cabinet minister.

      Meanwhile the head of LBC/Global is ex head of the Labour Party

      Remember last week I followed the Twitter chain of one of those saying the BBC is Tory
      It turned out he’d worked there for years and said Tories were rare.
      So now he was just being disingenuous.


  9. pugnazious says:

    Remember Kevin Myers who was sacked after a campaign against him because he made the positive comment about the Jewish Feltz and Winkleman, saying they were so highly paid because ….

    ‘Mr Myers wrote: “Good for them.
    “Jews are not generally noted for their insistence on selling their talent for the lowest possible price “‘

    Wonder if Evan Davis will be sacked as he gave a couple of examples of what he said were ‘positive’ stereotypes…Americans are loud and ‘Jewish people are very entrepreneurial.’

    Any difference between his comment and Myers?

    As for stereotypes about the travellers, or GRT Community as Davis labels them [How else can they get onto the diversity ‘victim’ payroll otherwise if not got a label?] the stereotype of a law unto themselves living by, er, different standards, all too often matches reality in my experience. There are some ‘respectable’ ones but all too many are not in some way even those who have moved into houses….from experience quite happy to strip the places of wiring, plumbing, bathroom suites when they move on, often smashing what they don’t take…and the council or housing association still gives them another house. Many times I’ve seen the caravan armadas move onto private land, football pitches, recreational areas and locals then have to put up with torrents of abuse and kids out of control, the footpaths covered in human shit [at least they use toilet paper so not all lost!] and of course when they finally get moved on the council has to clear away tons of garden and building waste they have dumped there….and no prosecution for flytipping.

    Couple of weeks ago we had the pathetic Nidal cosying up with a traveller and there was much upset when they received a text asking the traveller to take his rubbish with him when he left the studio…naturally Nidal was outraged at this calumny…never mind based on so much truth… irony that at the same time this was happening…

    Historic Thwaites Brewery is forced to throw away 1,700 pints of beer after 100 travellers invade with 21 caravans then ‘evict’ staff and turn site into ‘a disgusting mess’

    The brewery had to close permanently and the police did nothing at the time…no doubt this was just ‘cultural’…or is that stereotyping?

    Stereotypes are based on characteristics and behaviour people see in reality associated with certain groups or types of people….such stereotypes will not fit everyone in that group but it will be a good indicator of the type of behaviour you may expect from some, if not many, of that group if they come into your society.


    • StewGreen says:

      Traveller ?
      Note at 9:20pm Evan Davis used the term GRT Community
      ..I guess to mean Gypsy, Roma, Traveller,


      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew I think he said” itinerant” not Roma ….


        • Holly Selassie says:

          Dale farm 2011 anybody?
          No further questions-the Irish send them over here, we do need a hard border. Holyhead , Pembroke. Let the Scots take them in at Stranraer.


        • StewGreen says:

          ha ha


    • StewGreen says:

      Lord Melvyn Bragg writes today praising Jews
      In his capacity as a Labour peer he lays into Corbyn ‘tinkering with public statements is not good enough’
      ” ….. Jewish community and continue to be amazed at the contribution to the arts, media, universities, commerce, philosophy and the public debate that this BRILLIANT minority has brought to the UK”
      “Corbyn’s feebleness on this matter is a disgrace …”


      • Holly Selassie says:

        As opposed to Muslims eh Melvyn?


        • gaxvil says:

          Come on Melvyn! I guess you don’t need the money now but Muslims invented everything and discovered everything – the bbc said and then there was that travelling exhibition so that proves it !
          Although, I caught an inkling that the bbc is now saying it was the Africans?


      • john in cheshire says:

        I wish someone would praise Christians.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Mr Myers wrote: “Good for them.
      “Jews are not generally noted for their insistence on selling their talent for the lowest possible price “‘

      Much is made about the salaries of these so called ‘stars’, but its their Agents/Agencies who are the negotiating protagonists, and in truth those that I’ve read about are generally of the Jewish faith. This isn’t stereotyping, its fact, in the same way there is no denying that for many years, the big hitters at the tv channels were the same – Bernard Delfont and relations Lew and Leslie Grade.
      I’m saying this in the spirit of not being in the least anti semetic, just stating facts, but if I were to say this in a letter to the press I would be labelled thus.


      • Lefty Wright says:

        Strange indeed. What is also a fact is that one can be as anti Christian as one likes and say the most nasty things in public about Christians and it wouldn’t raise a murmur. In fact you would probably get “Hear,Hear” from most of the media . However, if you say nasty things about the Muslim or Jewish faiths in public places you are without question the spawn of the Devil and should be silenced at all costs. I would call that an injustice.


    • Beebophobic says:

      But the traveller community, whatever it is exactly, will attract flak if it is Tyson Fury exercising his right to free speech. Always funny when the liberal-lefty mob have to deal with behaviour from one of their favourite groups that goes against another favourite group. I often reflect on what the real batting order is for the liberal-left mob. Does Islam trump (no pun intended) everything ? ie Islam can do no wrong?
      How would they deal with Gays against Sharia for example ?
      What about a “trans” person who opposes mass immigration?
      And so it goes on.


  10. flake says:

    Sums it up…


  11. Up2snuff says:

    Any news on the Lubeck bus stabbings?

    On the Skripal poisoning?

    On the Glushkov Murder Enquiry?

    On the Amesbury poisoning?

    On Fran Unsworth’s resignation?


    No surprise.

    How about that gas cloud over Beachy Head on a HOT August Bank Holiday Monday last year, BBC? You never did tell on that as far as I have heard.


    • flake says:

      On carrie gracie bbc gender pay gap accusation? (They payed her off and that was the end of it lol)

      an excuse to post one of my fav vids


      • Dover Sentry says:

        Thanks for posting the video.

        Go to 22.50 for that special moment when she goes silent….


      • Beebophobic says:

        Excellent ideas from Jordan Peterson. My ideal society would be a meritocracy, with no quotas or positive discrimination. Peterson talks a lot of sense. The idiot interviewer just cannot get her head around Peterson’s ideas and facts.


  12. Guest Who says:

    Seems BBC go-to history and politics buff has allegedly erected a new gate to his mansion, if latest sensitive comments are to be believed:


    • Holly Selassie says:

      Arbeit Macht Frei seems now to mean Labours Matt Frei.
      How Channel 4, how BBC.


  13. Holly Selassie says:

    Would recommend last nights Moral maze to see the BBCs collective mental breakdown. A Simon Albury lashed into the BBC for not employing enough blacks-and would not shut up about it. Poor Buerk relies on the BBC for his pottage, so was far from happy(other public broadcasters being available).
    But Albury carried on regardless.
    I had him down for a black gangsta-turns out he does a great impression-he is of course, pale, male and very stale-but does a good impression of Darcus Howe here.

    Giles Fraser then called some white bloke from Essex “racist” in effect, because he said his Asian mates had done well with corner shops and self employment. Another car crash for Buerk, and he`d only ushered the rubberneckers on after the Albury pile up.

    Some Poly Dolly called Rainbow( a doctor even!) failed and spluttered when Claire Fox said she had no campaigns for women bin men of sewage staff-just BBC and CEO levels of privilege. Rainbow had her carburettor flooded, and was taken off the road soon after-might have been liberal tears from Buerk.

    Andall this in forty minutes-comedy gold, riotously funny and very revealing…all this crap about diversity-and not one black invited on to talk.
    Chaise Longue for Michael somebody!
    Will be surprised if it stays uncensored for Saturday, enjoy it ehile you still can.
    The BBC simply have given up, this is zoo radio on aceed.


  14. Grumpy Dave says: The BBC reports in one paragraph that it has agreed to pay Sir Cliff Richard £850k “to cover his legal costs”, then in the next paragraph reports that they have sought leave to appeal against the judgement! You couldn’t make it up!

    For anyone interested, the full judgement of 122 pages is available online at I am not a lawyer, but the judge seems to me to have done a very thorough job in balancing “the right to respect for his private and family life ” of an individual under S 8 of the Human Rights Act and “right to freedom of expression.” under S10 of the Act, which is the BBC’s justification to do and say anything it thinks is in the “public interest”. After a lengthy discussion on the balancing of these two competing rights (p86 of the judgement) and the legal precedents which mean that the MSM should always balance the two, he rules strongly in Sir Cliff’s favour, finding that everyone in the BBC was far more concerned with preserving the exclusivity of the story than in considering the rights of the subject. His judgement was for general damages of £190k and £20k for aggravated damages (for entering the story for a “Scoop of the Year”award).

    From pages 101 to 115, he rules on whether “special damages”, i.e. consequential losses are valid claims for future negotiations or hearings. He rules in Sir Cliff’s favour in nearly every heading and certainly under the important, i.e. expensive ones. If the BBC loses the whole case under the present judgement, they will be caught for a lot more damages yet.

    The judge was fairly scathing about the points the BBC’s QC made in many areas in the case, so it wouldn’t give me much hope for the success of any appeal, assuming they made their best points in the initial hearings.


    • RobRoy says:

      Seeing as it’s NOT the BBC who are paying these damages, it’s us the TV Licence Tax payers, that are covering the costs, I think the BBC should ask us it we’re willing to fund their appeal. You’d think an organisation that are so keen to force a second Brexit referendum would be interested in publi opinion.


  15. Eddy Booth says:

    Regular heatwaves ‘will kill thousands’
    By Roger Harrabin BBC environment analyst
    and a photo of a woman scratching her head,
    maybe to cement the narrative there actually is a problem, and whats the answer?

    ”The current heatwave could become the new normal for UK summers by 2040 because of climate change, MPs say. ”
    MPs say ?
    That hardly inspires confidence..

    ”The Environmental Audit Committee warns of 7,000 heat-related deaths every year in the UK by 2050 if the government doesn’t act quickly.”
    Giving a link to a 2013 report from the London school of hygiene and tropical medicine…??

    ”Scientists differ on whether the current global rash of heatwaves is definitely caused by climate change. ”
    Sneaky, because they also differ on if there actually is a rise in heatwaves..its not a fact.

    ”But all agree that future heatwaves will be hotter and more frequent thanks to carbon emissions.”
    No they don’t.
    Etc etc.
    I’ve had enough, lets see what qualifies Roger Harrabin to lecture on climate science .

    ”He then studied English at St Catharine’s College, Cambridge..”
    then a whole lifetime in journalism, culminating at the BBC:
    ”The Today Programme created a roving role for him, and he spent a decade there travelling widely,..”
    yeah jetting around the world -pilling in the air miles: no wonder they stopped mentioning individual carbon footprints a few years ago- these hypocrites have the biggest..


  16. gaxvil says:

    The intrigue surrounding Comey, Clinton, investigations etc., is truly engrossing and will make a better movie than, All the President’s Men but where is it on the beeb? All we got was a milk sop Sakkur interview with Comey.


  17. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Oh dear, another fire in a posh (I think) part of London.


  18. AsISeeIt says:

    Interesting to see how overnight Cliff Richard has shot up into the upper reaches of the BBC’s top paid stars.

    Congratulations !

    Watch out for those Devil Women trying to take some of it off you


    • Guest Who says:

      Speaking of high paid ‘talent’:

      Clearly the BBC totally worried how it looks that they have created a whizzo scenario whereby ‘staff’ can say what they are all thinking, impartially… with zero holding to account or concerns on the Charter.


      • gaxvil says:

        It’s that, Germany in the 1930s feeling, again – guaranteed if Corbyn gets in.


      • Guest Who says:

        If ever you need a Matt hunted, the BBC has a bloke for that.


  19. gaxvil says:

    “The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump ”
    by Gregg Jarrett (Author)


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      A good watch as well: Bill Still’s 2319: ‘Hannity nails the coup’. There is still a lot to be desired about and from Donald Trump, but -boy- did he get there in the nick of time…
      (British involvement: Christopher Steele.)


  20. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC TV News at 1 pm today.

    The first fifteen minutes concentrated on the hot weather. Harrabin was given a slot within this propaganda piece.

    ‘All due to global warming and we can expect more’. That’s all they needed to have said and saved fourteen minutes of airtime and also saved fourteen wasted minutes of my life that I’ll never get back.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Went one better on TWatO, Dover.

      Mary Creagh MP, Shadow Environment Minister I think it was, as Labour’s Caretaker during the school holidays, opened her mouth and promised us another twenty-five summers as good as this one.

      I immediately wondered after that unbreakable promise from Labour and ‘Foots in the mouth’ Creagh, whether – if we have a grotty summer in 2019 – the BBC will hound her until she resigns. After all, they have been after Fran Unsworth for a week now.

      Haven’t they?



      • Fedup2 says:

        Al beeb regularly rolls out Ms Creagh who is always good value as a scatty rent a mouth .

        After listening to her blaming god , Government cuts, blah for hot weather I could only pity her other half – if she has one cos boy can she waste some oxygen .

        I hoped there’d be a contrary view from someone saying it can be hot in the summer . But sadly mr blue sky declined an interview by al beeb .


  21. flake says:

    A non-story in The Mirror with added Brexit propaganda


    • Dave S says:

      Isn’t Sainsburys merging soon? Could be stock run down time. The new company will have different buying policies.


  22. Up2snuff says:

    Now it’s hot!

    Just glanced at the digi thermo under my HO screen. Caveat: the sensor sits away from the PC and the screen vents but IS about half a metre up and slightly across from my right shoulder so may registering some body heat as well as PC & screen heat.

    The display is showing 30.5°C. Only another eight and a half degrees to go for the record. 🙂

    Have been waiting for this moment since I bought the device in 2014 or 2015.


  23. vlad says:

    Litlle Emily having her sanctimonious hissy fit.

    But why do the likes of Spicer subject themselves to these rabid beeboids, don’t their advisers warn them? Trump would just refuse, which is what the beeb deserves.

    (Maybe I shouldn’t give Em / Newsshite the oxygen of publicity, it only encourages them, like deranged terrorists.)


    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Cos Trump won`t ever speak to them-and his ex staff need the money and book plugs.
      That said, Gorka is always a delight, so imagine we`ll not see much of him if the liberals here have their way.
      Where`s the gorgeous Ted Malloch? Come on Donald! The boys gets Kellyanne and Sarah Palin-where is Sexy Ted?


    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Ta vlad.
      Got no telly, like the rest of the healthy population-so to see the naked lies, the charge sheet of the BBC as set up by Maitlis only shows me just how base and debauched the BBC now is.
      What a liberal set list of liberal grievances-and it`s not changed. Never will.
      As for IS, Syria, Jerusalem, Kim, a decent economy, standing up to China, NAFTA, TTIP, Paris, CNN etc-AND sure to do far more re his wall and getting Hillary and Comey jailed? Not a peep!
      Sod off Maitlis you thick poseur. How much are we paying her again?


  24. StewGreen says:

    YP : Corbyn’s new “Build it in Britain” campaign has nothing to do with Trump

    …. Yeah sure


    • gaxvil says:

      Hmmm …… sounds like, Buy British, I’m Backing Britain or even Make Britain Great Again ?
      I think the quote most applicable to him, ” ‘Patriotism’ is the last refuge of a scoundrel”.


      • Lefty Wright says:

        I wonder why treason is viewed with so much respect these days?


  25. Beeb Brother says:

    “Barcelona puts men’s team in business class whilst women’s fly economy.”

    Such thin gruel for the SJWs. If this is the best ‘sexism’ they can uncover then it can’t be much of a problem. The chance of flying on any plane as part of your job sounds like a fantastic deal to me.

    Perhaps the reason the men are treated better is due to the astronomic amounts the market pays for their services. I imagine your average male model only flies economy whilst the female super models fly business class. There are many, many areas in which women get a much better deal then men but they are never mentioned by our impartial BBC.


    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Couldn`t Womans Hour ask Serena Williams to stump up a few thou for her sisters in Spain?
      After all, she got paid as much as Djokovic whilst only playing for a fraction of the time that HE was on court.
      How about that one Beeb?

      Hope now that the Pools and Paddy Power are made to include womens footy-and that the results always lead with the womens football result.
      Arsenal Ladies 17 Chelsea Women 15
      Man City Poppets 0 Hemel Hempstead Boys Brigade 23

      That sort of t`ing.


  26. fakenewswatcher says:

    Will the beeb be showing us the violent invasion of Ceuta by ‘migrants’, I wonder? Cutting their way through fences, using as weapons everything from home-made flame-throwers to bags of excrement? A dozen Guarda Civil in hospital…
    This is Spanish territory, although Africa, so these people will be entitled to apply for ‘asylum’ in the EU. They know the government is Socialist now, so a soft touch.
    Don’t you just love it?


    • Fedup2 says:

      So al beeb lost its application to appeal the cliff Richard case . I understand it can still appeal directly to the appeal court splashing tax cash in only the way unaccountable public mafia can .

      The first instance judgement must have been written so well that there is no way out for al beeb . Nor should there be.


  27. Up2snuff says:

    Now 32°C in my HO. A new record could be set today.

    Outdoors, I got a reading of 83°F in the shade and as near as spit 110°F in the sun but 1. this other thermo is alcohol, 2. a bit vintage (late 19thC!), and, 3. was laid nearly flat on an earth flower bed but was tilted slightly downwards, away from the bulb to the top. It wasn’t in the 4pm sunshine for long.

    Had it been done at 1pm or 2pm maybe that would have been the new record.


  28. Foscari says:

    There is a clip on the BBC website of a “lass” explaining the
    current heatwave. She says in a more than extravagant over
    emphatic way how in 1976 before many of us were ever
    thought of there was another heatwave.
    Further she explains it in a way suggesting that we may all be
    as thick as her. All that it is really missing is the she hasn’t got
    that Londonistan patois accent which the BBC is taking pride
    in the name of diversity to use for some of their continuity TV


    • Fedup2 says:

      Alli Mcbeal did a heart rending job on that nasty President Trump separating parents from kiddies when they illegally entered America . He promised his voters he would be tough .

      Snowflakes cried . The kids cried . Al beeb cried . At the end a border cop had 30 seconds to say – great policy -shame its ended. It stopped the illegals trying as they learned what would happened to their kids . Practicality versus virtue signalling ,


  29. john in cheshire says:

    I doubt if many, if any in fact, on here have seen this. It will disgust you about what the muslims, aided and abetted by the police, the Home Office, the judiciary and the prison service are allowing to happen in our country; our country, not theirs.

    But it will bring hope when you see what some brave patriots are now doing to fight back. I laughed when I saw the cops running away.


    • StewGreen says:

      Jesus that Infowars stuff is rubbish, playing provocative stuff without giving proper context.
      As if to say ‘there are gangs of white of white men running round with big sticks chasing after grooming gangs’

      ..No, risking your life to take down a terrorist while he is doing an attack is one thing
      .. but vigilante & revenge attacks are always wrong, cos two wrongs don’t make a right … and things get out of control.


  30. theisland says:

    What a surprise.


  31. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Saw this great post on Breitbart by Cargill55.
    I’m sure he would be happy to share it.

    No deal is best.
    It was always clear there are huge economic benefits from a quick Brexit.
    Big business, the economics profession, the state bureaucracy, the political elite , the globalists, the lobbying and polling industries, the media and the Bank of England were self serving liars and propagandists dancing to the political tune that benefitted them.

    – We stop paying a net £70billion membership fee over the next five years to Brussels.… .
    Every single penny of that £70billion has to be borrowed, added to our state debt of £1.7 trillion and from the first minute adding interest to that debt, a double whammy.

    – We can say no to millions of low wage , low skill EU immigrants who are depressing wages of low paid British workers and creating chaos in state services such as the NHS and education .

    As many of four million Brits cannot get a job or the work they would like because they are forced to compete with a “virtually unlimited pool” of migrant workers from the European Union (EU), a report has said….

    We now know there are 700,000 EU immigrant children educated in the UK at a cost of £4 billion a year.….

    630000 EU nationals were given new NI numbers in the year to December, 209000 to Bulgarians and Romanians.

    These 630,000 will bring 200,000 dependents meaning the true EU immigration figure is 830,000… They will also add to the birth rate whilst here.

    MigrationWatch says Brexit would cut net immigration by 100,000 a year ,… .

    NI data suggests the cut would be substantially higher than that and would relieve pressure on hospitals, schools, infrastructure, jobs, wages and state finances.

    We now know that 75% of EU immigrants who come here to work and live would have been refused entry by the non EU immigrant point system because they are low paid workers with a median wage of £8 an hour….

    We know that up to 45% of EU immigrants take in work or out of work benefits… and low paid EU immigrants now take £3 billion in work benefits a year, 10% of the total paid in the UK, proving they are low paid, high benefit workers

    Recent research suggests open borders immigration, most from the EU ,has increased house prices by 20%, making it almost impossible for young British people to buy a property.

    We also know that 75% of all new jobs are taken by EU immigrants

    Meanwhile it’s going to get worse through immigration to the EU from third world countries. Europe is set to absorb massive waves of migration “for the decades to come”, the EU Commission has declared…..

    – We get out of the protectionist and bureaucratic common agricultural policy, allowing us to recoup the £50 billion opportunity cost of CAP membership that we will incur over the next five years, for example by sourcing cheaper food from the rest of the world through free trade treaties instead of applying high EU tariffs.

    – We get back our UK fishing grounds, 70% handed over to the EU, gaining us £15 billion over the next five years.

    – We set our own trade treaties and exit the protectionist and bureaucratic single market which costs business tens of billions of pounds a year and which have saddled us with a £89 billion annual trade deficit with the EU,… , despite proof that EU setting our trade treaties and the single market are bad for British business.… .

    – We will continue to have major foreign direct investment into the UK. The $830 billion Norwegian sovereign fund says it might invest more after Brexit… HSBC will stay , Honda, Hitachi, Toyota, Nissan, Vauxhall will all stay here, Avon has just announced it is setting up its global HQ in the UK so it’s not worried about Brexit.

    – Neither are 73% of Chief Financial Officers who say Brexit will not affect their UK investment decisions

    – As for the City, there’s growing consensus there that it will prosper outside the EU! Away from EU power grabs.… . Deutsche Boerse is so relaxed about potential Brexit it wants to merge with the London Stock Exchange.

    – We can set our own energy policy instead of following the costly carbon emissions laws set by the EU

    The EU is collapsing economically because of a dysfunctional currency, protectionism and bureaucracy, it’s got deflation and minimal economic growth, why attach ourselves to,that economic carcass?

    So Brexit will benefit Britain economically, business costs will fall, global business will still invest here, food prices will fall, we will get the controlled immigration we need, state spending will fall, we set our trade treaties and we are freed from single market bureaucracy


  32. Fedup2 says:

    Tony Blair on CNBC opening up a new front against Brexit – here is the reasoning

    48/52 split on the vote
    Of those 52 % people voted for different sorts of brexit
    So hold another referendum with clearer questions
    This time get the answer right

    ( I added the last bit but he might as well hav said it) Blair is a barrister – lawyers sell their soul for money – Blair likes money . Soros has lots of it . Blair says things mr. Soros would like .


  33. StewGreen says:

    Farage show reported that Trump had achieved a trade deal with the UK in one day
    ..where Theresa the Remainer has achieved nothing in 2 years

    “oh Trump’s a bully, he makes threats”
    ..yep, and they seem to work better than appeasement

    An interesting point is that if the EU can offer South Korea an FTA
    WITHOUT the need for open borders to migration, then it should be easy for EU to give the same deal to the UK ?? surely


  34. BRISSLES says:

    Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but today the obnoxious Lineker has called for a new vote on Brexit………..–Gary-Lineker.html


    • taffman says:

      The only vote now should be to get rid of the appeaser in government.


  35. taffman says:

    Has Al Beeb been fixing the HYS up-ticks on the Brexit surrender this evening ? “What now for the government” .


  36. Guest Who says:



    • StewGreen says:

      @GuestWho video now missing , what was it ?


      • Guest Who says:

        Oops. Can’t remember.

        It was probably something the bbc didn’t like and/or didn’t want shared.

        Maybe, in the spirit of transparency, Maxi has a copy?


  37. Guest Who says:



  38. StewGreen says:

    Medialand are busy building their “hottest summer since 1976” narrative.
    9pm Channel 5 Heatwave: Scorched Britain Live with hashtag #HeatwaveOn5 will no doubt be on at 9pm

    Seems that 25-26th is National Global Warming Day
    6pm last night Harra and co on BBC news were hyping
    ..that tumbled over into input from @MaryCreaghMP and her Climate Committee

    then today local prepared their reports only for the real world rain to catch up with them

    As ever Pail H supplies the debunking context


  39. StewGreen says:

    So @5WrightStuff are you scaremongering on Brexit as well ?

    Are you reassured to know our government’s stockpiling food and medicine in the event of a no-deal Brexit – or quite the opposite?

    Theresa May told @5_News they’re just planning for every eventuality but the idea we could run out of essentials… surely that’s not we voted for?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Well I’ve started stockpiling air because the Giatdian says if we don’t have another referendum to get a different result the ReichEU will stop our air . Light will also be rationed To daytime only


      • RJ says:

        “Light will also be rationed To daytime only”.

        OMG, the sun rises in the east, so it has to cross the EU to get to us. When we leave the EU we will no longer be part of the Single European Sky. The sun will be unable to reach us at all. Why hasn’t the BBC made a programme about this?


        • JimS says:

          Fortunately the weather mainly comes from the west, so we get to control that, we also control when the day starts, (our ‘elite’ keep pushing to move us onto Berlin time).

          The UK is a major gateway to Europe for world air traffic, communications and money movements. If those nasty girls and boys in the EU don’t play fair we will take our ‘ball’ away and go back home. Sorry Ireland, no more air travel or internet.

          Perhaps when Dover/Calais are ‘stacked back’ the ‘little ships’ of Operation Dynamo might block the channel? Sorry Rotterdam!

          Meanwhile our ‘friends’ in the EU will ponder ‘Lisbon Article 3.5’ :

          5. In its relations with the wider world, the Union shall uphold and promote its values and interests and contribute to the protection of its citizens. It shall contribute to peace, security, the sustainable development of the Earth, solidarity and mutual respect among peoples, free and fair trade, eradication of poverty and the protection of human rights, in particular the rights of the child, as well as to the strict observance and the development of international law, including respect for the principles of the United Nations Charter.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Apparently as well -the Eurotunnel won’t work after Brexit… just like now


  40. Synchronised says:

    Not Beeb but C5 have a special programme about the weather. FFS it’s like watching Monty Python.


  41. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Not BBC but I saw an online headline:
    “Why White Women Have Remained Loyal to Trump”

    I dunno? Perhaps they like that he wants to make a secure and prosperous country for them & their children to live in eh? Maybe they think BACKBONE is a good quality in a leader?


  42. G.W.F. says:

    I believe that the Government is using the BBC HYS discussions to monitor opinions on Brexit, which explains the daily HYS on Brexit which follows the latest installment of project fear.

    This evening we have the Brexit threat to sandwiches and comments this time are not going all the way for the BBC.

    Come on Maxis and the Uni folk. Sandwiches are racist.


    • JimS says:

      We were told that food prices would go up when we joined the EEC.

      Food prices went up.

      Now we are told that food prices will go up when we leave the EU.

      All good news to the BBC as one of its The Food Prgramme agenda constants is that food prices are too low. (Essentially they believe that Samantha and Imran should be able to make a multi-million pound living by selling the surplus from their vegetable patch, OK yah innit.).


  43. Dover Sentry says:

    Does Trump care about the BBC? No.

    Does the BBC care about Trump? Yes.

    Get over it, BBC. You lost.

    You lost out to interviewing Trump when he was over here.

    Why? Because you hate him. And you make that very clear.

    I pay you the BBC £150 every year on pain of prison.

    You are paid to represent the British people in a fair manner. In an unfair manner, you decided to hate Trump.

    You should be stripped of your authority as the National Broadcaster.

    Ironically, Trump gave his one British media interview to the Sun.

    The Sun is despised by the BBC.

    And let us not forget, America has greater economic and military might than the rest of the world put together.

    Let’s be grateful that America is benign to us.

    But that could change.

    BBC, save your animosity and hatred for real tyrants.


  44. tapwatertory says:

    Just watched Newsnight for the first time in a long time. What’s happened? Is it now an entertainment show? I’ve seen better debates at my local ale house after ten pints home of brew. First off, violence and drugs in prisons. Easily solved in my opinion, but that’s not what got my ire. The next bit of ‘entertainment’ was about brexit, where they said ‘the UK’s position’ at least four times. Surely it’s OUR position. Apparently there’s some musical entertainment to round it all off, splendid.


    • StewGreen says:

      viewing stats
      Fri 13th :770K
      Mon, Tue, Thu about 580K
      ie about 1% of UK population

      Love Island on ITV2 gets 6%


  45. Beebophobic says:

    The lying treacherous BBC…the broadcaster that colluded with police in harassing Cliff Richard, probably because he is a white Christian who likes to keep his private life private. The same BBC which covered for and indeed facilitated sexual abuse of children by Jimmy Saville etc.
    Only when the BBC has become subscription only and when the licence fee is abolished will I even think about buying a television set again.


  46. lojolondon says:

    Interesting – and interesting contrast with Shereeza May’s very own popularity ratings!! Somehow the Biased BBC never noticed this – or it doesn’t qualify as ‘news’. – 1022255069230768128


  47. Fedup2 says:

    Albeeb News

    Russia President Trump allegations
    *North Korea
    Amazon Profits
    Illegal immigrants in America reunited with their kids

    Al beeb seems to have moved to America without anyone noticing

    * I realise Blighty had a part in the Korean War under a UN flag but it was cast in an American angle without giving President Trump much credit .


    • Fedup2 says:

      Slight amendment
      They are now including a story about the Probation Service failing . Again.


  48. Guest Who says:

    Do you think Jack knows?

    Comments couldn’t be much funnier.

    When you become a source of mockery like this….


  49. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 Cannabis is back on the menu.

    Matthew Price, I think, interviews one of the mothers from Northern Ireland who is seeking legal UK use of cannabidoil to treat her daughter.

    Matthew Price mentions the ‘B’ word. Brain damage? No.


    I wonder why?