Weekend Open Thread 23 June 2018

Al Beeb is carrying on with Project Fear in accordance with the wishes of the likes of Soros and the government is showing its true colours by increasing taxes. Not much hope of al Beeb changing any time soon but we must fight on showing the bias reason for change.

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346 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 23 June 2018

  1. StewGreen says:

    Start with a good one : Politico takes the Daily Politics piece apart
    … as they try to be more sophisticated in dismissing Tommy Robinson.
    This came out on page 4 of the weekend thread here, cos Raheem’s video mentioned Jo Coburn messing him about and in the end disinviting him on the show.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thanks Stew
      I’m guessing the main reason the State hasn’t killed TR yet is because of overseas monitoring which could lead to embarrassing questions when has been found to have topped himself ( presumably with the help of a Muslim / paid prison officer ) .
      (( why else would anyone become a prison officer apart from££££?)

      I’m surprised DP even mentions TR – can’t understand why – unless it’s a precursor to the 23 June event – which will be a failure according to msm

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        ”why else would anyone become a prison officer apart from££££?”

        Many are homosexual, I suppose they do it to enjoy the domination power, the uniform, the strip searches, the open plan showers / toilets, the endless pat downs etc.

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        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          Many are ex-servicemen and really decent people. Who have served their country.
          Being a prison officer is like being a customs officer. The ignorati like to look down on those professions and portray them as thick and stupid. Sort of stereotype you would find on the BBC. Customs officer easily bribed, brutal wardens. Ho hum!
          As for your fantasies Eddy “strip searches…open plan showers..toilets… endless pat downs” well I suppose you are allowed to have them.

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        • Navets says:

          Eddy Booth, the pay rates and retirement ages are in the public domain. The working conditions and daily challenges are also well documented. What, exactly, drives you to make such an outrageously unfounded sweeping statement?

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    • Loobyloo says:

      who is that Stew?

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      • StewGreen says:

        I guess if he calls himself Mr Politico, that’s fine by me
        ..He seems pretty forensic …probably not flashy or shouty enough to be super popular

        See my comment about his MP sending out a TR letter copied from Owen Jones
        .. back on page 5

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Joshua Rozenberg?
      “Legal commentator and journalist”? So, not a lawyer then.
      Yet alone one with any sense of where this ends up, and no longer wants promotion to the Judgocracy.
      How BBC, but thank to Politico and you, Stew for this.
      Might be Erin Brokovich in London today, on seeing this.

      Still-got a new word here.
      Muzzling(5.55-6.01),,,Musling.
      To be forcibly gagged and on a leash so as not to offend Muslims and your dog whistling, opinions.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Alicia you clot, he’s a QC

        but just cos someone’s qualified and experienced that doesn’t mean within the framework of the BBC they speak truth.

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        • chrisH says:

          You sure Stew?
          Jo Coburn doesn`t call him that.
          Not like the BBC not to puff up their own is it?
          Afraid I won`t trust Melanie Phillips if he`s anywhere near her work.

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          • StewGreen says:

            @ChrisH I concede (@Stew you clot he’s only a solicitor unpracticed)
            Someone said last week on Twitter that he’s a QC
            I got “confirmation bias” when I double checked on Google and spotted the Wikipedia preview says he’s a QC (img)
            In fact the triple check shows that now and on his own website it says QC (hon)
            ie they made him an HONOURARY QC in 2016

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            • Guest Who says:

              On twitter there are helpful hashtags in handles to pin down just how deranged they are.

              #FBPE is one.

              Add QC to this and you are in jackpot territory.

              If a Professorship is involved… all bets are off.

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          • Alicia Sinclair says:

            Why ChrisH!
            Thanking you for defending my virtue. Bit late now mind.
            Scroblene just left me to be traduced by Black Sir Stew.
            But you seem the noblest, from a pretty poor crew.
            Taunton was it?

            Still-if anyone DOES care to fight over me -using mop handles and jousting disability scooters only-then I`ll gladly tell Him that he`s maybe taken me for granted.
            He drank the last of my Yates Australian white wine last August. It`s been tense ever since!

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            • Scroblene says:

              Alicia; you’re gorgeous – what have I done to hurt you? I wouldn’t dream of doing anything except defend you to the death from the nasty hordes from Alan’s snackbar, or moped gangsters!

              Did you mean Stew or even Alistair Camp-Bull?

              I’m so worried now, I need a tincture, preferably based on an alcoholic theme and topped up with tonic water…

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              • Alicia Sinclair says:

                Who the hell was ChrisH?
                For a grumpy old bat, I find myself having ADD, snowflake tendencies as well as a Twitter attention span on this occasion.
                Scrobs the Job!
                Have I been a cat owner too long I wonder?

                My tinture is Ash Blonde with warm tones of copper, I`m told. But where does ash end and grey begin?
                Thomas Sowell has no answer to THAT!

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    • GRIM REAPER says:

      Um..i thought the trial was over, the men found guilty, and the judge was just ready to sentence…a sentencing hearing then. So how can Tommy prejudice a trial that is ended ?….anyone know differently/

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  2. ToobiWan says:

    Raheem Kassam – latest on TR and BBC bias. 42 minutes.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Quick links Last thread from 24 hours ago
    – Where @Tabs discussed Question Time
    Other issues Gosport, Lord Sugar’s Tweet, non-coverage of rape , new EU censorship rules
    … UK Thanksgiving Day , when we celebrate the arrival of theWindrush which liberated the British from their savagery and lack of marijuana culture.
    .. Te BBC’s inversted Sexim/Racism whereby every BBC photo tweet has a black person, and every show on BBC4 is women focused this week.
    Onto page 4 – The decline of the UK school system, BBC’s super-trivial news as it goes for yoof
    BBC reporting that Time’s cover mocking Trump used fakery (child migrant had not be separated from mother)
    – Airbus : ProjectFear Mk 88, Farge on Peston
    Onto page 5 : Corbyn special on Feedback

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  4. Guest Who says:

    Another recent bbc employee I do believe.

    Paul Mason doubtless agrees too.

    And I see Alistair Campbell agitating for further exposure on why the voters are silly billies, because Airbus.

    A bbc producer’s digit heads for the speed dial…

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    • StewGreen says:

      Alistair Campbell was on R4 Any Questions Friday/Saturday
      ..is there a day when he’s not on the BBC ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      vid shows : The wisdom of Marie Antoinette from Howard Jacobson & James O’Brien

      Paul Mason, Alistair Campbell, John Bercow, Lady Emily Thornberry, Anna Soubry & most MetroLib media-staff are also graduates of Marie Antoinette University ..no doubt

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    • vlad says:

      Two grotesque lefties tut-tutting that you can’t trust the people to get it right, in fact the (stupid) people are guaranteed to get it wrong…
      How ironic the Left are now sounding like the most elitist patricians of old.

      “What’s that? Give the vote to the great unwashed? Have you taken leave of your senses Prendergast?”

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  5. Eddy Booth says:

    Most comical outcome of it is, many people think there are no England fans at the world cup, well there are, but due to chanting / singing free Tommy ballads they find themselves invisibled by the main stream media.

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  6. Richard Pinder says:

    The Chief Executive of Airbus, Thomas Enders is a member of the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Group, which had just held a meeting in Turin.

    Anti-democratic Elitists such as the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, Boss of Ryanair, Michael O’Leary, Chairman of Goldman Sachs International and former President of the European Commission, Jose Barroso attended the Bilderberg Group meetings as did George Osborne and Amber Rudd.

    Top of the agenda was Bilderberg establishment fears of being replaced by democratically elected outsiders. People more popular than they are, democratically elected to office. What they call Populists. Therefore the need to oppose democracy in America, Britain, Catalonia, Hungary, Italy and many more nations. By trying to convince people through “Project Fear” that Airbus will leave Britain because of Brexit, leave China because its not a member of the EU, leave the US because of Trump, leave Spain because of Catalonia, leave France if it votes for Frexit, leave Germany if Merkel is forced out and leave the Netherlands if they vote for anti-immigration policies.

    Also, BBC Parliament, Freeview Channel 232, is broadcasting a repeat of the Brexit Referendum from 9.55am to the end of a speech by Jacob Rees-Mogg at 9.35pm.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Ever wondered how it can be that democracy is good if a PC bunch are the outcome, but bad if ‘populism’ is the outcome? Surely majority votes are majority votes?
      Well, there we see it: big money in its alliance with political elites, giving us the corporate state. Oh yes, the whole thing held together by big media, as elites are numerically smaller than the ‘little people’. If we traced some of those media connections, what would we notice…?
      Top projects of the moment? The demonisation of Trump, the abolition of the concept of national sovereignty (hence the danger of Brexit to the entire EU project) and the flooding of the once essentially white and Christian Europe with ‘migrants’ from other regions. (Not to mention its numerical undermining by the destruction of the traditional family through the murder of the unborn, the encouragement of gender warfare in the name of ‘equality’ and various other devices we are oh so familiar with).
      It is the third party (and propaganda arm) in the corporate state, the media, who are currently being undermined by technology. That would explain efforts by the big corporations and allied politicians to clamp down on the internet.
      It would also explain some of those less obvious names in your piece, Richard. Like that of Amber, whose enthusiasm for imprisoning anyone who watched any website she didn’t like
      was illuminating…

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      • Rick Bradford says:

        I can’t remember the source, but one analysis goes as follows: the world is fractionating into 3 tribes:

        1) the Nomenklatura, which comprises all the groups fakenewswatcher mentions above; politicos, media, crony capitalists, bureaucrats,

        2) the Outcasts, who are unemployables, dole bludgers, migrant hordes, basically anyone who leeches off the state.

        3) everyone else, including everyone who does any productive work, from driving a bus to discovering a cure for cancer.

        The problem is that groups 1 & 2 pay no tax, or have fancy shelters to minimise the dent in their huge earnings.

        Group 3 pays all the tax, while having its values sneered at from above, and, incredibly, from below as well.

        I recommend watching Victor Davis Hanson on where our societies are headed. Here’s a good intro to the man’s views

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Rick, excellent post together with that below providing your text book declension of diversity. Must try to remember that one.

          (Memo to Fedup & B-BBC team: how about a B-BBC ‘Pithy Thought’ or ‘Bon Mots’ a.k.a. A Quotations Thread where things like Rick’s post @8.01am 24 June, can be parked for easy access reference and further use? Just an idea …..)

          Blair & Brown in government forgot all that about those three groupings in your post, or were dogmatically blind to them or were totally ignorant of them, most possibly/probably the latter two. The time for a MP who is a good banker and a good economist to be in residence in No.11 Downing Street is long, long overdue.

          As a bit of an economist, one of the alarm bells ringing in my head from about 2004 onwards, was the fact mostly ignored or only briefly mentioned by our media – especially the BBC, that the UK Public Sector the employment level had gone from (am posting from memory here – which may be defective) above 1 in 6 persons under the Conservative Government up to May 1997 to almost 1 in 4 persons by 2003. And it was heading upwards.

          That, according to my understanding, was unsustainable in itself. Add to it the extraordinary high level of unemployment and inflation run by the Labour Government during a period of unprecedented economic growth and the necessity to support that with indirect and hidden and stealth taxes on Group 3, the earners’ and contributors’ group, then the seeds for economic collapse and the disasters of 2007-09 in the UK were well and truly sown.

          The Labour Party and Blair and Brown would like you to believe it was bankers, and American bankers at that, who were the cause of the worldwide collapse.

          Not so!

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        • StewGreen says:

          Virtue Signalling is what the rich class do to get forgiveness from their sins.
          … In medieval times the same people, bought indulgences
          #Antoinettes

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          • Up2snuff says:

            True, Stew.

            Not that there are enough Indulgences in the world to cover the sins of Blair & Brown, especially as those of the former appear to be continuing to grow with his desire to overturn Brexit.

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  7. Loobyloo says:

    Who is Tommy Robinson and why is he in jail? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44577573

    Interesting. Seems that Al Beeb are often slow to catch on, but in this case maybe some of the powers are a bit rattled so have had to go on the offensive. The shear numbers and power of the internet are key to this movement. This video is defending his treatment by the Judiciary, so someone is worried.

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  8. Loobyloo says:

    Why many mums are better than one http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-44497146

    BS article designed to soften us towards polygamy

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Aah but, not but, yes but more than one Mum leads to child obesity. (Probably.)

      Think about it.

      I wonder if the BBC has?

      Probably not.

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  9. Loobyloo says:

    Clear bias. Al Beeb give top billing to anti-Brexit march
    Brexit: Campaigners to demand new vote in London march http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44575929

    No mention of pro-Brexit March.

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    • JimS says:

      Reporting on a march that has taken place is news, reporting on a march that hasn’t taken place is promotion.

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      • Fubard says:

        Exactly right, Looby and JS, exactly right. And the same goes for the rest of the MSM. All swamp-dwellers… But I really do think people are waking up. Thank you all on this site, don’t know what I’d do without my lifeline to sanity. I am not alone, I am not alone. Repeat: I am not…

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  10. Oaknash says:

    Looby – Its been pretty much that way all week on google – I had to look really hard to find anything on it. I am sure (even if they do cover our march, we will all be presented as thickies too dim to understand the complexities and the necessity as to why we should allow the EU to destroy all that we hold dear.

    Anyway off of up to London in a bit to see for myself!

    For evil to succeed – the only thing necessary is for good men to do nothing.
    Cor I feel proper intectualish now innit.

    Pity it is looking like a great day down here in the West.

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    • Jeff says:

      The only way the Brexit supporters march will get covered is if anything “kicks off” as happened at the Tommy Robinson demo of a fortnight ago.
      On the other hand the anti Brexit march has been given maximum publicity, they’ve had a several supporters interviewed on the Beeb; and nice, soft, cosy questioning it was too. Like a chat between old friends…
      Last year an estimated 10,000 football supporters marched in protest of religious and political extremism (our mates in the mosque). It was well behaved, it was peaceful. They walked right past the BBC headquarters and didn’t receive even a whisper of coverage. Blimey, they only needed to look out the bloody window!
      That same weekend there were demonstrations in Barcelona. Wall to wall coverage. Reporters scurrying around interviewing people. Lots of people given the chance to speak and air their views.
      And the bastards have the temerity to put up a statue to George Orwell!
      Who says the BBC don’t do irony?

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      • Englands Dreaming says:

        I think that’s right Jeff. When our democracy is being buried and hate speech laws are being used to strangle free speech, the powers at be will take no notice of a peaceful march, look at the 100s of thousands that protested against the Iraq war, nothing. Compare how they reacted when the free loaders went wild about the Poll Tax, or how the Irish border is being used in the Brexit negotiations or how the Religion of Peace is fawned to and I think it is clear why certain groups are listened to and others not.

        It is a very sad state of affairs and bodes extremely badly for the future.

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  11. Beeb Brother says:

    The second story on the Five Live news bulletin is about a producer being fired for using the ‘n’ word. Who cares? Why must they have some total non-story about ‘racism’ every day? They are such finger-wagging wankers who think a sense of humour is a hate crime. I would not even have a beer with these chumps yet they see it as their bounden duty to tell us how to think?

    Imagine if they put the BBC contracts out to tender. Instead their smug chortling about the same old garbage on the morning sofa they could get all these cool and cash-strapped production companies to offer alternatives. They would offer something immeasurably better for a fraction of the price.

    As their income is guaranteed – enforced through threats of prison – they do not bother. It is an object-lesson in why the communist utopia they crave is actually a crock of shit – why bother making an effort if you are getting paid no matter how badly you do your job? Plus you get an elite which ends up being just as oppressive as the ‘oppressors’ they sought to overthrow in the first place, as Orwell showed so brilliantly in Animal Farm.

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  12. Scroblene says:

    Spot on Beeb!

    Like civil servants, they have a cash cow to make them rich for doing next to nothing.

    They don’t excel in anything, they don’t even try to be interestting, they get a huge wedge for being rather boring people – often untidy or even ugly, and expect the Great British Public to think they’re important!

    Well I fucking well don’t think that.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      They take themselves so seriously and have an absurdly high opinion of themselves. It has been so glorious to see Trump expose them for the lying charlatans they really are. How they squirm when he calls them fake news – the truth hurts!

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  13. Synchronised says:

    I see Gina’s going to be on her soap box later telling us Brexiteers we simply didn’t know what we were doing. Got me thinking. A friend has had two flights cancelled because of French ATC industrial action. Why isn’t someone on the beeb pointing out their wonderful EU isn’t one big happy family.

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Been watching Alice Weidel of AfD in Germany on their main channels.
      This Bias against patriots there, is even MORE snide and nasty over at the heart of the beast than it is here.
      it`s THAT bad.
      BUT
      To know AfD went from an idea in a Professors head to Germanys 2nd biggest party within FOUR years?
      Now THAT encourages me.
      Hence the Eurovision evils of German British media coverage 24/7.

      Imagine Berlusconi isn`t as bad in Italy, but this Eurotrash telly i`m seeing is creepy. Have a look at last Septembers ” pre election leaders debates-chilling, really is!

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      She said the morning of the vote she felt sick.

      I would not mind feeling sick in a million pound house in a lovely area. I feel sick when I feel a stranger in my own country.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Synchronised
      An objective broadcaster would keep reminding people about the ‘no. Ifs no buts ‘ speech of Cameron where he said there would be no second vote .

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY WATCH
    The Class-conscious ridden BBC, and their TOADY Programme, has condescendingly moved half of its ‘Ladies Day’ to Newcastle. Unfortunately, they are spending their time there being divisive: North v. South, South v. North, Midlands v. North, North v. Midlands.

    I thought the BBC did not like ‘divisive’?

    Apparently it’s OK if the BBC are divisive.

    They are still being divisive on Brexit and are now publicising the anti-Brexit Remain event, the so-called ‘People’s March for a People’s Vote’. The organisers’ use of the apostrophe there, was copied by me, but it may not be in the right place.

    Interestingly, the organisers appear to have paid a lot of money to the Russians and Facebook and other Internet companies to make sure their event comes up in the first few pages of any web search. Not mentioned by the BBC at all this morning on TOADY. They could investigate this, of course, next week with all the effort and energy that they have shown in chasing the chimera of supposed Russian involvement in the election of Donald Trump as US President.

    I wonder if they will ……..

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Was on Toady Watch too.
      The 8.10 Brexit bitchslap was upended by John Elliot from Middlesbrough, who battered Vince Cable(Head Of Siemens Spitting Image puppet)-and, of course Highgates one Airbus expert Mishal Husain( Boeing Spitfires manufacturing CEO). Surprised John was let on, hope he`ll check his brake cables with his non-upskirting mirror before heading south to Teeside.
      WHAT?…Make our own planes? What about that WW2 supply chain from Bremen to Yeovilton that kept our planes back in the 40s?
      Goering For Gold I think they were called?
      For the life of me, I don`t know what it is in German Siemens EU monstrosity Vince Von Kabel that attracted the Day Returners from Hampstead at he BBC to talk.

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    • Rick Bradford says:

      For the BBC, being ‘divisive’ is one of those irregular verbs

      I welcome diversity and oppose hate speech
      You are divisive
      He is a racist bigot
      We want a fairer, more inclusive world
      You stir up fear and hatred
      They are a mob of violent thugs.

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  15. AsISeeIt says:

    It’s always interesting to note which flavour of viewer criticisms Samira Ahmed’s BBC Newswatch show is most willing to select for presentation on air.

    This morning on the token blink-and-you’ll-miss-it BBC outlet for news feedback our Samira opens with a clutch of moaning minnies complaining about the football coverage.

    Like it or not one can but take note that the England World Cup match captured a very large audience. But the momentary escapism, positivity and patriotism on show cuts little ice with those lefty sectors of the public which are most invested in what they see as their own BBC – their own precious propaganda outfit.

    So cue the virtue signalling Social Justice Warriors… and an amusing and revealing linguistic slip from one of their number. A most earnest woman pleads with her BBC to take the football off the top headlines to make way for Brexit, refugees and ‘Trump’s America’. Then she insists that football is not “part of the news campaign”. Did you get that? “News Campaign”. To this type of viewer the BBC news should be a series of campaign issues. Well, I concede it normally is.

    And how could the BBC neglect to give a platform to the celtic voice? A complainant from the clan McAllister detects pro-England bias… stone the crows! He reminds us “England is not the only team playing” . Sorry, Jock, you’ll recall there’s no Scotland, Wales or Ireland involved in the tournament, so…. England the only team playing… well, unless you choose to lend support to a foreign team, yes they bloodywell are!!!

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    • Kaiser says:

      we know whats Jock is like, he will be out today looking for a panama shirt and next week for a belgium shirt, he has already burnt his tunisia shirt in disgust

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        ‘we know what Jock is like…. he has already burnt his tunisia shirt in disgust’

        Nope, he’ll be desperately attempting to sell it on.

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    • Foscari says:

      AsISeeIt- I expect that this will be the last World Cup the BBC will
      be covering in its present format. Samira Ahmed Or Mishal Husain
      will be presenting Question Time. The World Cup could well
      be in competition on the BBC with the LGBT Games or the
      Womens Rugby World Championships by 2022. In a way I
      am glad I wont be here to see it all happen.

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Isn`t the next WC going to be in Abu Dhabi or such anyway?
        Ideal for Mishal and Samira, guessing that Gary or Alan will have to do the driving though.
        Can you upskirt with those dishdash things they wear over there?
        Hope the A/C is working on the camels.
        Do blokes reverse camels better than us?
        And what about that map reading required to go from oasis to wadi, do they HAVE A-Z and Oystercard access I`m asking?

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        • Foscari says:

          Holly-Gary and Alan will be long gone by 2022, probably by 2019.
          It will be interesting to see which women will take their place,
          Actualy that’s not fair. There are quite a few men also that
          tick the right boxes.

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  16. Beeb Brother says:

    I thought Alan Sugar’s Tweet was funny. Can’t people just handle being offended sometimes? God the BBC is viscerally offensive – hence this website. It is not a news story when something is offensive. It is the price we pay for free speech, or used to pay. Without that right things get very dark indeed, as per 1984/Rotherham. Better to be offended than watch your children get gang raped and not be able to say anything about it.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Its not just the BBC continually offended, its the sodding world in general courtesy of Unsocial Media with its iPhone cameras and videos, that’s responsible for the loss of humour. In a hundred years the world will be living in an environment similar to that in the Handmaidens Tale, where everyone talking in whispers and being arrested by the thought police. Oh, isn’t that similar to how those in Muslim countries live ?

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      • countryblues says:

        A hundred years? At the present rate of regress, I should think more like ten years! 🙁

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Brissles.
        More like BBC West Midlands, South Yorkshire Police, NHS Hampshire and-of course -the BBC and any local council we live under.
        I know at school, it`s the ladies loo and the broken water cooler , the caretakers side room where WE are free to talk-I think.
        The Handmaids Tale is nothing to do with Trump, those the lefties think they`re so “free to talk”.
        Course they are-as they spout like they do, they`re already what John Lennon calls them in Working Class Hero.
        Never get THAT quoted by the Occupy twerps by white pianos do we.

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  17. ChrisMorrison says:

    The things they say (contd)

    Apparently Lord Sugar made a couple of disobliging comments about the Senegalese footie team so it is open season again on Jews, sorry white late middle-aged Jews, and all their capitalist works. Writing in the Times yesterday, Caitlan Moran put the boot in by suggesting there was something unique to Sugar’s Apprentice tv show that encouraged the worst people to step forward. In reality, she continued, The Apprentice isn’t about business at all.

    “These supposed boosters of the economy never mention, say, employee pension plans, sustainability, diversity quotas, escalating worker/management pay inequality, ethical outsourcing, or any one of the billion dull yet vital things that will, ultimately, be what the market-led economy will live or die by”, she said.

    Of course Moran is writing the ranting harridan slot, but where does such boneheaded ignorance come from? Does she think that an entrepreneur gets up in the morning, risks capital, works from dawn to dusk and spends sleepless nights worrying about a business to please a me-me dimwit spouting meaningless words like sustainability and diversity?

    It is never possible to under-estimate the depth of hatred many on the left feel for private enterprise. They can’t stomach the idea that all the public services, the foreign aid, the NGOs and charities are funded by people who work in wealth creating companies. Any idiot can spend money – just look at the current Labour frontbench – the trick is to earn it in the first place. The idea that there is no freedom without economic freedom is entirely lost on blinkered people living in an elite bubble. Like Moran they believe that entrepreneurs should risk all with the aim of providing employees with an income for life. Nothing makes them feel so virtuous as telling the evil capitalists who they should employ and where they should buy their coffee and bananas. Then, thank them for their vital contribution to society by shoveling a whole load of climate change guilt bollocks onto their doorsteps.

    The education system at school and certainly university level does little to teach the economic facts of life. Most public sector teachers are hard left wing. The overall decline in education standards compared with a generation or two ago is staggering and a national disgrace. Former chief inspector of schools Sir Michael Wilshaw recently described England’s education system as “mediocre” and said it was foolish to claim otherwise. Reporting Sir Michael’s comments, the Times noted the recent conversation on ITV2’s Love Island where Hayley Hughes, 21, asked what Brexit was. She thought it might have something to do with trees! Fair enough there are some seriously thick people around – another contestant on a reality show, who presumably had gone through the education system, didn’t know the difference between the sun and the moon – but the pert poppet was said to have three A levels and attended a university.

    Your own correspondent has some practical experience of modern university education. Having sold a publishing business a few years ago, he briefly and unwisely signed up for a music course at Kingston University. Around 70% of first year undergraduates couldn’t read a note of music, one of them didn’t know what an interval was, none of them had heard of the English composer Henry Purcell, although one asked if it washes whiter (it might have been me). I was reliably informed that five of the 10 students awarded a first class degree around this time could barely read music. One of the most popular courses after three years – why of course the postgraduate teaching certificate.

    The music department at Kingston sat next to the business studies centre. And you wonder why Caitlan Moran writes as she does to an appreciative audience.

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      What a wonderful editorial Chris.

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    • Marion says:

      Look at the music staff and, in particular, their Areas of specialism:

      Music in the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences

      Eg:
      Acousmatic compositions
      Electroacoustic music analysis
      Audio recording and post-production skills
      Live performance technologies
      Site-specific installation art
      Preservation issues of electronic music

      Henry Purcell? Forget it.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Chris
      Spot on…and how she keeps that writing job is beyond me. It is usually drivel and no exception on this .

      Is there a Pro Brexit march today? All morning the BBC have just been producing Pro Eu people and talking about the Pro EU march.

      I am predicting the headlines tomorrow or this evening on BBC
      ‘right wing activists cause trouble at pro EU march’

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Good post, ChrisMorrison. Education is the key.

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Beautifully written Mr Morrison.
        The comments re music are great, these clowns are uncreative which rather defeats the object of MUSIC as I know it.
        Not Lily Allen , Billy Bragg and BeyoncayZ.
        Like art and comedy, they`ve gone elsewhere. Hence this site and Scottish Calvin and Tommy Robinson.
        The art and the power are here, not in Bestival sampling crap on Freeview.
        Hope the Out Means Out march goes well.

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        • ChrisMorrison says:

          The BBC never tires of telling us that the British university system is the best in the world. In fact it is largely a waste of money designed to keep elite left wing public sector employees in remunerative employment while the young are lumbered with all the debt. Quite why students supported the recent strike by lecturers is a mystery to us all.

          True there is some good teaching around – in science, engineering and medicine we are up there with the best. But most young people are not in these places of learning. They have been conned to take useless degrees at gruesome politically correct places called universities. located in nice party towns. Here they can expect their pockets to be relieved of upwards of £50,000 for the privilege of studying for a qualification that has little or no market value. A couple of generations ago an investigative mainstream news organisation such as the BBC would have had a field day with a lot of the stuff that masquerades as teaching in these so-called universities. These days it is scared stiff to go anywhere near the problem – one bloated publicly funded left wing organisation marinaded in its own sanctimonious elitist views – talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

          You can study anything at university these days – so long as you have the cash. Hence my own personal experience with the music department at Kingston University. A few years ago over 60 universities offered music degrees, seemingly unaware that the subject had largely dropped off most school curriculums. The staff was faced with the tricky problem of teaching a difficult subject and keeping their jobs when suitable students had largely disappeared. An A level in music was sought but hardly any of the students seemed to possess one. So the staff tended to steer clear of the “M” word as much as possible. There was a module based on rhythm where a group banged mainly metallic objects in some sort of musical harmony. There was another course on music technology where there was little teaching since it just seemed to be assumed that tech savvy students would put together simple compositions using digital samples.

          The composition class was a particular hoot. Obviously anything based on the western harmonic system was out of the question so students were required to “draw” a composition suggesting instructions, which would then be played by fellow classmates. One chap, who stuck out a bit since he knew something about music, was suitably appalled. The day the compositions were to be “performed”, he arrived with his “pretty picture” which was a five-page explosion of graphic fireworks. See if they like this nonsense, he declared triumphantly. Following a mass of “street art” doodles, his last instruction to the performers was to “shout cheeseburger, leave the room and slam the door”.

          Needless to say the lecturer loved it and it received the highest mark in the class.

          These days Kingston, in common with similar institutions, has moved its course to the popular music field. It probably had no choice – the gig was up. Quite why you need to pay over £9,000 a year for three chord pop is puzzling, not least because previous generations seemed to manage to work it out in their garages and bedsits. Kingston asks for an A level in music – no doubt for form’s sake since “other musical experience will be considered”.

          How about a pulse beating in time?

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          • Alicia Sinclair says:

            Good post.
            Your question in your second sentence is answered with just two words
            “Thomas Sowell”.
            His “Visions Of The Anointed” says it all, imagine most of us here know how brilliant he is.

            Utterly tragic re music, wonder if I could finally get that degree in playing “air triangle” that is mine by right?
            Does air guitar count as pavement art these days?

            Off to my Bach now, am assured that many kids STILL know and love the best of western classical music. But you`d never know unless you asked, they`ll never be on telly unless its that “Young Musician” junk-and they`re not English and white. Sorry Ralph-here`s a triangle to pose with, lad,

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          • Marion says:

            Excellent, if rather sad, post.

            What I find particularly sad is that kids don’t seem to be impressed by virtuosity any more. It simply doesn’t seem to register. I must be from a different planet – I don’t understand how (almost) anyone can fail to be impressed by something like this, even if they don’t particularly care for the style:

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            • miker22 says:

              That takes me back. I remember when Ashkenazy first defected to the West in the early 1960s (I think) and the BBC showed a clip of him playing the “Winter Wind” study Op 25.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Brilliant piece, Chris, and excellent analysis. Went well with the latest edition of Open Book and the slightly sinister State Support of Authors scheme.

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    • Navets says:

      You have absolutely hit the nail on the head there. The Caitlin Morans of this world, too visible and numerous by far, are clearly blaggers of the first order whom I would class as new-age spivs.

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  18. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC believes firmly in CO2 generated, Anthropogenic Global Warming and Climate Change.

    So what are they doing in the TODAY studio? Trying to find ways of generating CO2.

    Only on the BBC.

    Hypocrisy.

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  19. scribblingscribe says:

    Archaic words no longer used by the BBC/Guardian.

    Guantanamo Bay – this was used to beat the Republican George Bush, along with the evil West and specifically the wicked United States up until the appointment of the US’s first Black president. The words then fell in to disuse.

    Before Obama the words would be found on BBC news programs from early morning to late at night. They would be embedded in special finger wagging editions of Newsnight and many documentaries.

    Once Guantanamo Bay fell into disuse BBC viewers were no longer slapped across the head with it every two minutes.

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  20. Right Angle says:

    Talk about bias!

    At President Trump’s recent rally in Duluth, Minnesota, Fox News noted that they were the only major network showing it live. The rest of the networks were ignoring the presidential rally.

    Had the blatantly biased Beyond Belief Corporation been based in America, I very much suspect it would have refused to show President Trump’s rallies in full from Day One.

    And bias through deliberate omission is far worse than bias that you can see and point out.

    But not to worry, President Trump sure knows how to call out the fake news (about 11+ minutes in, and you can also have the pleasure of listening to the crowd boo the MSM, especially CNN):

    See how he takes them to task over the way they covered his meeting with Kim Jong Un. And there are also 2 bonus segments of protesters being thrown out – in the second one, the protester has his hair tied in a bun at the back, so Trump says, “Was that a man or a woman? He needs a haircut more than I do!”

    I urge you to tune in!

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Wouldn`t miss it for anything.
      Our telly is gone, this is all I need today.
      Then off to London, Out means out!

      Duluth? Bob Dylan will be pleased!

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Thanks for this.
      Can you imagine, even in your wildest dreams, Ms May calling out the fake news sources present at a speech/rally of hers? In Europe, one could see Matteo Salvini doing it. Or Viktor Orban.
      But Ms May? Nope.
      Donald Trump is light years ahead in terms of courage, honesty and telling it like it is.
      May would be praising them, in the hope they will be kind to her in their coverage. And being very PC about it.
      The Donald may not be the most eloquent speaker in the world. But who gives a fig about smooth tongues…

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        I second what fakey`s just said.
        Amazing watch.
        No WONDER the media won`t report him live anymore, nor show the crowds around him.
        The man is brilliant and speaks for the many, not the few!
        Maybe he might use that when he comes to Trumpton, Poundland next month.
        Do watch it, well worth it, and everything that the BBC hate is to be found here.
        Thank you Right Angle!

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    • StewGreen says:

      This vid never pans back, but these photos make it look like a full huge stadium
      CNN
      wide angle of the stadium filling up

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  21. Nibor says:

    When is the Freedom of Speach March , where does it set off from and what train/ tube stations are on its route ?

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Hijack a union bus or a BBC car!
      That`s coming.

      CNN sucks.(see Trump above)-10.55 etc!
      WE Want Tommy Out.

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  22. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Google search this morning : march for brexit london june 2018
    Results nearly ALL ANTI-Brext/Pro EU.

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&ei=AgguW7rjD-PP6ATW17bQCg&q=Brexit+march+London+june+2018&oq=Brexit+march+London+june+2018&gs_l=psy-ab.3

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Gina Miller will be talking.
      If that’s not a turn-off, I don’t know what is.
      Full of self-importance, elected by nobody, determined to spit in the faces of the majority who voted to leave.
      No doubt, she thinks she’s photogenic; but, man is she ugly the minute she opens her mouth.
      But a good portion of our duplicitous, and even treacherous, media happy to support her in her dirty work.

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      • chrisH says:

        Alastair Campbell? Maxwells gimp boy on psychotropic drugs.
        Gina Miller? Supreme Court lovebird who seems to have only come out from hubbys chambers since we dared to vote against him.

        Two Any Questions? In succession?
        Must be something about NOT being democratically elected, but liking the taste of Soros Cherry Blossom or sucking his spats; that gives the BBC some kind of stiffie.
        Why would I give a damn about unelected shoehorns for Selmayrs jackboots ?
        Only the BBC and its sewer pipers would ever ask either of these viruses about anything political and democratic. Like the EU Commission-they`re demophobic.
        Same goes for Schama, Grayling, Dawkins and Lineker, Allen and Jones, Toynbee and Alibiah Brown.
        Who`s asking them? Only the BBC and the Soros Spongebob Tendency.

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  23. pugnazious says:

    ”We need the power of people to overcome the power of money.”

    The Boss of Airbus thinks he has a veto over Brexit and the BBC agrees airing his scaremongering with great delight no doubt. Astonishing how these fatcat businessmen think they have the final say and that a hugely democratic vote to leave the EU is merely optional and advisory. {Note how much investment Airbus has in Russia or Canada or China or the US…none of which are in the EU. It has a $4bn deal with a Russian business to supply parts….I know, let’s start asking questions about who Airbus deals with in Russia…you don’t make deals like that without Putin and his cronies having a finger in the pie….sanctions on Russia….is Airbus complying with those? Seems Airbus isn’t too concerned about democracy and human rights as long as it gets the cash]

    For years the BBC and its Party representatives in Labour have been attacking these very same fatcats and their evil capitalist ways but now, not so much…suddenly the BBC is reporting their every utterance as if handed down from on high on tablets of stone.

    Odd then that the BBC is, without the slightest hint that there is anything paradoxical about this, airing ‘The Long March’, a no doubt hagiographic account of Corbyn’s Praetorian Guard, Momentum, and its rise to power but in which Momentum’s founder, Jon Lansman, states that ” We need the power of people to overcome the power of money.” and tells us that the moneyed elite will do everything it can to stop a Corbyn government….just of course as they are doing with Brexit.

    ‘Jon Lansman, who heads the Jeremy Corbyn support movement, said global elites would resist the “significant transformation” planned by Labour.

    And he said he hoped that it would not lead to the devaluation of sterling.’

    You have to ask if Airbus came out after a general election won by Corbyn and said ‘We don’t accept this, it’s bad for our business, Corbyn must be stopped!’ would the BBC be so eager to support their view? Would the BBC be giving so much positive support to a ‘Remain’ campaign for the Tories to stay in power because a Corbyn government would, undoubtedly, be disastrous for the economy or would the BBC just dismiss all the anti-democratic chaff as the nonsense it would be and say Corbyn was democratically elected and no fatcat businessmen should be allowed to rewrite the outcome of an election and neither should unelected Lords or disgruntled MPs in opposition parties….and yet this is what the BBC fully accepts with the Remain camp as it tries to sabotage Brexit.
    On Today we had ‘Fukme I’mawally’, born in Darlington and a self-confessed ardent remain fanatic, on to tell us we need a second referendum because people thought Brexit was going badly.

    The reason Brexit is going badly is because Remain diehards have been successfully blocking everything that would make the process go smoothly and have undermined the negotiations at every step of the way. If Brexit is ‘going badly’ it is the Remain saboteurs’ fault and May’s for not standing up to them…she should have sacked Hammond long ago.

    The BBC of course doesn’t notice that and fails to hold Remainers to accoung for their betrayal of Britain as they are seemingly prepared to see Britain massively weakened in the negotiations and careless of the economic damage they will do even as they claim to be doing it in the nations best interest and for ‘jobs and the economy’.

    Drain the swamp!

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Pug,
      Totally agree. If Remainers had behaved according to normal British democratic norms and accepted the choiceof the people then the negotiations would have been much easier and fruitful. But they have behaved like a fifth column seeking to undermine Brexit at every turn and collaborated with Brussels to do so, Ever since the GE result last year i have had no expectation that we would ever leave the EU in any meaningful way . The Remainers and Brussels took heart from the result and it fatally damaged the negociating position of thegovernment ( i agree that in many in the government probably welcomedthis weakening of the Leave position) .
      In a few more months millions who voted Leave will realise that their votes count for nothing if they go against the elite and that ,therefore , democracy is dead in this country. What happens when this new reality strikes home is anyones guess but Remainers should not expect that all will return to normal. They have destroyed our democracy and they will now reap what they have sown.

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      • David R says:

        However a Brexit deal needs the unanimous agreement in every tiny detail, every dotted i and crossed t, among the remaining 27 nations, before the EU can agree it. Even if die Führerin can achieve that (fat chance) it goes to the European Parliament where interminable discussion would ensue, as it usually does in that talking shop.

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    • Jane-ite says:

      Excellent post, Pugnazious. Needs to be said whenever Brexit and the BBC is mentioned in the same breath. I’m convinced that more and more people, especially Leavers, are waking up to the BBC’s malign duplicity.

      I saw it in live action last month at a literary festival where Newsnight’s Evan Davis was in discussion about “fake news” and how not to be derailed by it. As an exercise in irony it was bettered only by those BBC self-promos about its outreach into schools to tell young minds what that Newstruthnarrative outght to be.

      Davis came across as both likeable and reasonable (of course, that’s the first principle). He even made a distinction between a “fact” and a “judgement” and called someone out on it. He admitted that the places he worked and spoke at were a “bubble” – and smirked that it was full of the most intelligent and rational and successful people, naturally.

      But, so sure of his ground was he that even during the discussion about seeing beyond the bubble, and why people now took notice of information beyond the MSM, that he actually asked for a show of hands to confirm his assumption that most people present were EU Remainers!! A lot of hands in the audience went up. But did this really confirm his bias? Given the kind of folk who go to litfests, and that he had already said unequivocably several times that Leavers were thickies and beyond the pale in polite society, did he – who should, as journalist, have known this – really not understand that people make all sorts of claims to look good, to fit with the group-think?

      My friend and I knew quite a few people in the audience who were extremely intelligent Leavers. One woman put her hand up because she was there with her businessman and EU-loving husband, but she told us two years ago hat she quietly voted to leave. Another, who put her hand up actually did vote Remain, but only under pressure from her similar husband, and afterwards expressed delight that her true instincts had won the day. I caught the raised eyebrows of several others I know to be committed Leavers but none of us wanted the discussion to descend into all-out Remainer rage. Afterwards there was much chuntering about his rude suppositions, and I’m sure at least some of those audience members will never see Newsnight in the same way again.

      The derailment of Brexit has indeed been done by high-placed Remainers – Doublethinker is so right. They and the EU-funded BBC very, very rarely discuss the history, workings and intent of the EU, nor the consistent use of the “economic imperative” to mask the creep towards federalism, and bureaucratic corruption. Jean Monnet: “Europe’s nations should be guided towards the super state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”

      Of course we have to find alternative sources of information. All they are giving us is the most egregious pile of one-sided rubbish. Where is the detailed coverage of what is really happening elsewhere in Europe? It never ceases to amaze me how those who are most pro-EU have so little knowledge of or interest in how it works and what its effects are on the Continent. The focus is always off the ball, on the political infighting here. Do they even know who Martin Selmayr is and what his coup means? What is the end game of the EU and how will this be achieved? What are the implications for democracy? Why are so many senior civil servants so terrified of having to run a country without diktat from Brussels? Why did all those Remainers who howl for more decision-making from Parliament keep so stumm when huge numbers of unwelcome EU laws were nodded through for decades without a whimper?

      Oh, and Davis also kept going on and on about Boris and the bus slogan. Perhaps because it conveniently diverts from any meaningful discussion. It was a fascinating view into the BBC mind.

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      • Helena Hand-Basket says:

        Thanks for a great post, Jane-ite. Since you seem new to this group, I welcome you.

        I have bitter personal experience of the pro-remain brigade. My lefty brother e-mailed me to rant cliches about Brexiteers being xenophobic Little Englanders, living in the fifties.

        I replied along the lines of: ‘Perhaps the people genuinely living in the past are the ones who haven’t realised their multicultural dream is crumbling across Europe under the double impact of aggressive Islam and unsuitable, excessive immigration?’

        I have yet to receive a coherent counter-argument, and that was two years ago!

        (By the way, does your name imply you are – like me – a fan if Miss Austen?)

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        • Jane-ite says:

          Thanks very much, Helena. Yes, definitely that kind of Jane-ite. I greatly admire Miss Austen’s cool appraisals and subtle subversiveness.

          I have learned a great deal from her about the use of language and what can be inferred from it. It’s how I approach any encounter with the BBC these days, always aware of the treacherous undercurrents!

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    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      We voted to come out of the EU and become an independent nation again. Now, I very much doubt that will happen given the nature of the Prime Minister and many of her cabinet. I’m sure some deals will be arranged and I have no confidence in Davis, Boris or Gove to put up a proper fight.

      So I want a politician who will tell big business and the remainers.. that we are exiting the entirety of the EU even if the only UK businesses left are morris dancing, bagpipes and the eisteddfod, and if you don’t like it please pack your bags immediately and sod off to France.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    LBC now ..Matt Frei is discussing “shall we just let them in”
    ..He’s making it more about the US.

    Caller is asserting “The Romans had a black leader of Britain”
    .. maybe they were here hundreds of years, but it does sound like wishful thinking.

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    • JimS says:

      Ah yes, those famous ‘undocumented migrants’, Romans, Vikings and Normans! We were so enlightened in those days that we invited them in and put them in top jobs, unlike the ‘Windrush’ (sic) generation who got the bottom jobs, (whilst ‘re-building Britain’ in their spare time).

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    • Marion says:

      If he’s talking about Septimius Severus, and he almost certainly is, he was born in what is now Libya and was part Berber, I think.

      None of his busts or statues look like Lenny Henry.

      Irrelevant anyway.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Strange logic anyway
        ‘Britain was once invaded/colonised by Romans and one leader was maybe black, so therefore it’s OK to let any foreign group colonise Britain today’
        99% of internet images of him show no flared nose


        4 on Youtube/Pinterest have cheated by using this image of someone else and saying it’s “Septimus Severus”

        Catholics may be already be aware of St. Perpetua and Felicity, African martyrs who’s death was ordered by Emperor Severus. (they do look black)

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          Ever since a child I have had “The Children’s Encyclopaedia” by Arthur Mee. On pages 2878 and 2879 in Volume Four there are fifty portraits in the form of Busts, of Roman Emperors from (49 B.C.) Julius Caesar to Constantius II (361 A.D.). Other portraits are available in the form of stone relief’s and on coins. So the well informed child of the 1960’s was well aware that the idea of a Black Roman Emperor was too ridiculous to even contemplate. Emperors with Arab or Berber Caucasian ancestry are known, but certainty not sub-Saharan Black ancestry.

          Also as an example, if you look at the Tunisian Football team of today, it looks more Caucasian than the England team does.

          Also I remember an Algerian-Berber historian complaining about Black Americans stealing the Racial identity of the Berber people of North Africa, to produce fake history.

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        • Holly Selassie says:

          That`s Michael Jacksons death mask.
          Maybe Jermaine. my Jacksons poster from an old Jackie had this picture. Even got the cracks in his nose as he started out on his path to be Diana Ross.
          Poor lad ought to have wanted to be Paul Ross.

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    • vesnadog says:

      “Caller is asserting “The Romans had a black leader of Britain”

      Actually, believe it or not; the first romans (when they first set eyes on the white cliffs of dover) named England “the WHITE land”

      Bit different now!

      You try writing that on the Guardian website and you’ll be buzzed, pretty darn soon by the delete squad!

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  25. pugnazious says:

    A shorter version of my last post might be Boris’ alleged pithy answer to Airbus’s attempt to hijack Brexit…’Fuck Business’….all those businesses that are so ready to off-shore work or import the cheapest labour in order not to invest in training and pay British workers decent wages.

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  26. fakenewswatcher says:

    I don’t know Trump’s itinerary when he comes to the UK, but wouldn’t it be nice if Leavers were able to hold just one rally for him, and if our police were even slightly capable of protecting that rally against the Antifa’s and terrorists of this world. Wouldn’t be interference, since the bBc et al had no problem with Obama interfering in our referendum and threatening to send us to the back of the queue.
    I reckon he would fill a biggish venue easily.
    Wembley Stadium?
    We could rope mayor Khan in to hand out programmes.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Faker,
      I fear for his safety in any exposure to the public.there are powerful forces in the USA and the globalist world order who fear the President and rightly see him as the most serious threat to their hegemony that they have ever faced. They tried eveything possible to stop him being elected and failed. They are now trying to get the American people to vote against him in the mid term elections in November. However, it is likely that they will fail in this too. If they , the global elite , can find a way of having him assassinated without any blow back on them they may well think that this would be a better option than trying to fool the voters. A lone , crazy , upset foreigner in a foreign country with a useless security force would suit them perfectly.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Thinker- I have the same fear. I am someone who can remember where he was when Kennedy was assassinated. After he told crowds in Berlin that he was a Berliner.
        So, not necessarily the foreign exposure that is dangerous. Trump is going to be a target wherever he goes.
        The sad thing is that I would not trust our police to have the willingness or ability to protect him.
        In fact, the high-ups in the force make one wonder…no reflection on the front line copper.

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        The Pro-EU establishment will assign MI5 agent, Johnny English, to shot Trump. He misses and kills Theresa May by mistake.

        So the establishment then gives James Bond a bomb to blow up Trump. But it turns out that Bond is a pro-British Brexit supporting patriot. So he makes sure all the Remain supporting traitors are present, and then jumps out of the building with the Q-boat. Then this happens.
        die-maya-pyramide-brennt.jpg

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Is it a “Day of” ?
    Is it a “Day of women” ?
    …Yep it’s “Day of Women in Engineering”

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Is tomorrow a day of ?
    Yep It’s the Jo Cox’s birthday Great Together picnics

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  29. StewGreen says:

    The thing about the plastic scare, the “show me the bodies rule” applies.
    You’d expect there to be be billions of animal bodies.

    Oh hang on a BBC crew filming in a remote island has suddenly found a load
    \\ Seabirds are starving to death on the remote Lord Howe Island, a crew filming for the BBC One documentary Drowning in Plastic has revealed.
    Their stomachs were so full of plastic there was no room for food
    .//
    Does the exception make the rule in this case ?

    Amazing coincidence that the news comes out just as BBC PR issue a Press release : announcing
    \\major initiative ‘Plastics Watch’ following the global impact of Blue Planet II //

    Liz Bonin’s 90 min special for BBC1 is part of a series
    another prog : Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall will present War On Plastics, continuing the work he started in Hugh’s War On Waste

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    • Old Goat says:

      It’s all really bollocks, isn’t it. When you consider the vast amount of sea on the planet (75% of the surface, I believe, and to some unbelievable depths), the idea that it’s all chock full of plastic, is ridiculous. All right, some creatures may succumb, but the majority will deal with it, without harmful results. Perhaps the seas would be better off without plastic, but what is, is, and there’s little that can be done in hindsight. Plastic is of such benefit to us all (and wildlife, too, in many instances) that banning it solves nothing.

      The Attenborough Principle that perhaps humans shouldn’t be around, at all, seems to be supported by the BBC. But no humans = no BBC audience = no BBC…

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      • David R says:

        [i]The Attenborough Principle that perhaps humans shouldn’t be around, at all,[/i] is the prior condition for the preserve-all-species belief, exactly as they are now configured and stop all evolution. Even dangerous bacteria variants created as weapons (smallpox).

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      • Up2snuff says:

        OG, there is a wonderful photo in the Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibition, currently on show at the Natural History Museum of a (juvenile – I think – or of a miniature species variant) seahorse that has found an alternative for, and is recycling, a plastic shaft cotton bud. It has clenched it in its tail and using it as a balance so that it can take a rest from swimming.

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    • StewGreen says:

      If Putin’s little helpers in the green movement didn’t keep blocking SAFE conversion of plastic to energy in incinerators, then there wouldn’t be so much waste plastic floating around.
      ..and we’d be buying less of Putin’s oil/gas.

         17 likes

      • LynetteO says:

        At least Israel is trying to find a solution and a useful one at that but the BBC would never mention this.

        Israeli startup UBQ has patented an ecologically-friendly process to convert non-recyclable household trash from landfills into reusable plastic building material. UBQ operates a pilot production plant and research facility at Kibbutz Tzeelim on the edge of the Negev Desert. See http://www.Israelactive.com https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-firm-says-it-can-turn-garbage-into-plastic-gold/

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Lynette, that is good news. We used to use a by-product of burning coal – the ash – to bulk up building products and keep the amount of expensive, environmentally unfriendly, concrete required to a minimum but that is obviously running out.

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    • Beltane says:

      As far as I’m aware sea birds are the same as all the other birds – they have a crop and a gizzard, part of but preliminary to the alimentary canal. Food, or plastic, is swallowed and stored in the crop and from there passes to the gizzard where powerful muscles coupled with previously ingested grit grind any contents to a paste which is then passed by peristalsis to the stomach. A gizzard is non-selective, it can and will grind anything down to either edible or inedible particles. Edible particles are assimilated, inedible particles are ejected. End of.
      Far be it for me to suggest a degree of fact falsification, except that…..

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  30. vlad says:

    “John Cleese hits back at BBC boss who branded Monty Python ‘six Oxbridge white blokes’ ”

    I hope he hit him where it hurts, hard.

    “John Cleese has accused the BBC of “social engineering” after its head of comedy said Monty Python’s white Oxbridge males were out of step with modern television.”

    Or perhaps the modern beeb is out of step with the population, who are deserting in droves.

    Scrap the extortion tax! Scrap the beeb!
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/21/john-cleese-hits-back-bbc-boss-branded-monty-python-six-oxbridge/

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    • Fubard says:

      God they are such a bunch of self-righteous, arrogant, liberal fascists aren’t they. Good for you, John Cleese! I hope Rowan etc hit back too. My teen and friends in my house have been laughing their heads off at Python films. Trouble with the BBC is that nobody there seems to have a sense of humour…

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      • theisland says:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5872003/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Monty-Python-Holy-Grail-Brexit.html

        Littlejohn:
        “David Davis: I’m here to negotiate a smooth exit from the European Union.
        Michel Barnier: OK, do you want the five-minute argument, or the full five-year transition?
        Davis: I don’t want to argue, I want to negotiate a trade deal fair to both sides.
        Barnier: It’s £40 billion for five minutes, and continued membership of both the customs union and the single market if you want the full five years.
        Davis: Very well, here’s the £40 billion. Now then, we have agreed on the Irish border, haven’t we?
        Barnier: No.
        Davis: Yes we have.
        Barnier: No, we haven’t. This is completely unacceptable. And I’m not arguing any more until you pay me £40 billion.
        Davis: I’ve just given you £40 billion.
        Barnier: No, you haven’t.
        Davis: Yes, I have.
        Barnier: I’m sorry, I’m not allowed to carry on arguing unless you agree to accept free movement of people and the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice.
        Davis: This isn’t negotiating, it’s blackmail. We might just as well stay in the EU.
        Barnier: Good, so that’s agreed then.”

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        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          Island, That is very good, very funny. The Python team made so many brilliant skits and they will endure in original form or in altered form as above.
          BBC comedy, from what little I watch, can best be described as abysmal compared to Python. And I think I may be being a bit generous.

          (I once did the argument skit as an end of year party piece at our theatre. It’s a hard one to learn!)

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Vlad,
      In view of the fact that al beeb has been living of comedy from 20 plus years ago they are a bit cheeky saying how funny diverse vibrant al been comedy is going to be .

      Al beeb income from box sets of dads army , blackadder and python isn’t going to keep in business. But then again they have the arrogance of certainty through tax money .

      How about a comedy about a white bloke who upsets a couple of judges and gets 13 months to shut him up because the state doesn’t want the population turning on Muslim rapist paedophiles and their friends ? Top comedy .

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  31. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Headline You Are Unlikely To See:

    “The Vast Majority Of Firms Don’t Fear Brexit”

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    • Scroblene says:

      And you definitely won’t ever see “The vast majority voted for Brexit” either…

      The remoaners really didn’t understand what they were voting for either!

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      • Jane-ite says:

        “The remoaners really didn’t understand what they were voting for either!”

        Ain’t that the truth! Most I speak to have not the first clue about the EU’s history, workings and march towards federalism. They just think that they’re the clever ones.

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  32. StewGreen says:

    Barrister to Lee Rowley MP at Derbyshire drilling inquiry*
    ‘You should know better, you are not supposed to suddenly introduce new evidence , it has to be declared beforehand’
    Reply ‘Oh you’re trying to box me in’
    “My opinions have as much weight as anyone else because planning is based on people, not just experts.”

    * (protesters always call something fracking even when it isn’t
    https://drillordrop.com/2018/06/22/live-news-updates-day-4-of-inquiry-into-shale-gas-plans-for-marsh-lane/

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  33. Simon Love says:

    And just as everybody is appalled at the gagging of Tommy Robinson in the UK, the European Commission comes out of the shadows to finalise EU Article 13 and effectively neutralise all voices and platforms who are dissenting to the EU!!!

    Don’t you just love the EU and the ‘freedom’ it brings??? Read about it here…
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/european-union-prepares-to-wreck-internet-with-new-copyright-law/

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    I notice the. ‘Who is tommy robinson’ video on al Beeb website is the most watched. I suppose that is a good thing and if TR knows of this site I wish him well as many here. would do.

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  35. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News. Video Feature:

    “”Taking Tea With The Taliban”
    “”Surprisingly, Kate Clarke had a big advantage when reporting from Afghanistan – her sex.””

    “”I encountered no sexual harassment, unlike any other country I have visited””

    “”The Taliban were polite, opened doors for me and offered to carry my bags””

    “”The main traits I encountered were: politeness, hospitality and decency””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06bjkmy?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=radio4&intc_campaign=fooc&intc_linkname=audioclip_teawithtaliban_contentcard5

    There you have it, then. Online bookings now available for this terrorist, sorry I mean tourist hot-spot.

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    • Tabs says:

      I think she has made some good points. The only way you can keep Muslim men under control is to have a violent dictatorship keeping them in check. Sadam Hussain was a good example of keep Muslims in control.

      So the answer to Malmo, Rochdale, Oxford, Rochester etc rapes is to get the Taliban in there too.

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      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        I recall “poetry slams” and nail bars setting up in Kabul under Cherie Blairs kindly eyes in 2002/3.
        What DOES rhyme with Akbar, Jihad, taharrush, kaffir, dhimmi?
        Might have fun with this.

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  36. Guest Who says:

    Imagine one’s surprise.

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  37. theisland says:

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    • JamesArthur says:

      That is so f***ing funny. The tone in her voice when somebody whispers in her ear – IT’S THE WRONG ONE…STOP TALKING

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    • StewGreen says:

      3 min vid of the Pro Brexit Pro Freedom march
      clearly everything the media say it’s not
      In a quick scan I can see a lot of women in the crowd some black and mixed race people in the crowd, a group of black guys on the stage , a ethnic Chinese singing in the Tommy chant.

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  38. StewGreen says:

    BBC’s latest crusade is anti-plastic
    as ever they act like like a preachy patronising teacher
    BBC kids should not take our £3.5bn and use it as their own personal eco-crusader trust fund, cos there is no democratica accountability
    Instagram is rubbish, but the video does automatically embed here

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    • Old Goat says:

      You couldn’t get much more plastic, than the BBC…

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Is there a course yet on “how to be a shopper”?
      Optimal aisle choices a a la Konigsburg bridges?
      Nodal checkpoint analysis? Driving assessments(not Saudi) for those of us with trolleys?
      Avoidance and aversion techniques on encountering fat blobs with four kids of all shades, swigging Red Bull and yelling into a stolen mobile with enriching tattooes on a lardy cankle canvas?
      Blackburn College, Monday morning.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I’m buggered if I’m going to be ‘told off’ by kids for my use of plastic. Not my fault guv if the oceans are awash with the stuff ! How many of these critics buy their milk in plastic bottles ? I’ve always used the milkman. How many have been joined at the hip for years with a bottle of water ? I take mine neat from the tap. How many have used supermarket c/bags ? I’ve used my own shoppers for decades. How many buy their kids plastic toys ? My upbringing had tin and wooden toys. Old style grocery shops packed your bags in paper bags, and the butcher/fishmonger wrapped up their produce in large white sheets of paper. Back in the 60’s when I was 16 I had a Saturday job in Wooly’s – serving loose biscuits from individual boxes, with a scoop and proper scales (I also wore the most god-awful white overalls), and always served up the biccies in white paper bags (an 8 hour day for the princely sum of 18/- or 90p ). So like I remember the Kennedy assassination, winning the World Cup, being backstage with the Stones, and the moon landing, I also remember a world devoid of single use plastic ! So sod off snowflakes !!

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        • RJ says:

          Back before Attenborough declared war on plastic I can remember the BBC broadcasting frequent programmes about the problem of food waste the the Third World.

          The story was given an ecological slant in that we were told that there was already enough land under cultivation to grow food for everyone, but that a lot of the food was spoiled because third world producers didn’t have access to modern packaging – plastic. We didn’t need to plough up the savanna and destroy wild habitat, we just needed to give the farmers modern means to preserve their crops.

          All those programmes have disappeared and now farmers everywhere are all supposed to abandon modern technology and allow food to rot on its way to market.

          It reminds me of the BBC’s stories about the evils of felling the tropical rainforests, which suddenly become a “good thing” if the cleared land is to be used for bio-fuels.

             16 likes

        • Major Gammon says:

          Brissles for Queen of British culture and values ? I vote in the affirmative !

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          • BRISSLES says:

            Aw, shucks !

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Hear, hear!

              If it’s too much for you Brissles how about job share scheme with Helena, Alicia, Lucy, Holly, Lynette and other valued female contributors (if I am allowed to write that, these days) on here?

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    • gb123 says:

      What is never mentioned is our contribution to plastic waste is miniscule compared to these 5 Countries.
      “Roughly 8 million tons of plastic is dumped into the world’s oceans every year, and according to a new study, the majority of this waste comes from just five countries: China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam. ”
      source: https://www.ecowatch.com/these-5-countries-account-for-60-of-plastic-pollution-in-oceans-1882107531.html
      I remember living near a “river” in Shanghai where it was choked with plastic lunch boxes.
      If the Beeb was really concerned with plastic waste surely to focus should be on the elephants not the mice.

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    • BlackCountryWench says:

      That’s gotta be somewhere like bloody Moseley or Selly Oak, by the uni. Certainly no where near where I live I’m glad to say!

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  39. Tabs says:

    Why is the BBC News channel reporting the march in London, who want a say in the final deal, as a “anti-Brexit” march?

    They could easily report that as a “pro-brexit” march from people who just want a say in getting a really good Brexit deal – but of course the BBC have to spin everything to fit their negative agenda.

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Thankfully we all know what`s going on.
      I only came to this site after the Referendum, and even I can see the trends.
      Once you know what they`re doing, it`s so obvious.
      If they really want to see what we`re like when we`ve nothing left to lose, then-if they knew any history- they`re due a hell of a fall.
      It`s as if God is giving us the sports jocks (Lineker) spoiled brats with badly dysfunctional upbringings(Allen) sociopaths who prefer a dead David Kelly to a blip in the polls of 2003(Campbell),deadbeat dads with a trail of dead women round then(Geldof)-and that last ones not even British!
      If you add Douglas Hogg, Nick Clegg and John Major etc?
      And that`s just a FEW of them?
      Well, if we can`t plough that lot underfoot and trample the dirt down, then I`m not the mum my kids know me to be.
      No burkas, no Bolshies.
      Just a sovereign nation where I can pass on my pittances, knowing that they still speak English and can laugh at Ken Dodd and Kenny Everett.
      Not much to ask is it? I`m a cheap date.

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  40. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    GCSE Exams:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44560729

    One white teen in the photo, the other three are brown.

    The BBC gets it right most of the time, so the BBC says.

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    • vlad says:

      Dover it’s a well known fact that most students are black or brown, but all muggers, knife and gun attackers, paedo groomers, scooter thieves and drug dealers are white.
      Pay attention.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Screenshot 4 British kids, none blonde or even ginger

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  41. ChrisMorrison says:

    Here is how to kick start the Brexit negotiations.

    Tell the EU that failure to negotiate a full and free trade agreement (very easy- one already exists) will lead to a 100% tariff on planes made by Airbus and 50% on BMW cars. Tell them that you look forward to them trying to sell their wingless planes into the fifth largest economy in the world.

    Step smartly Juncker, no dawdling at the back Bernier.

    Phone Boeing.

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  42. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  43. theisland says:

    Disgusting – traitor civil servants have done all this and our MPs either don’t have a clue or don’t care.
    The media on the whole doesn’t understand (all too complicated) and it suits the pro-EU agenda anyway.

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  44. taffman says:

    Al Beeb’s Bias and Propaganda.

    If we who are mere mortals can see it, our Members of Parliament certainly can but they do nothing about it. Not one of them.
    There is a need in this nation for a new political party that puts the UK first.

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      A new party taffman? Ukip hasn’t gone away. It did take a while to sort out it’s leadership mess but it is back on track and out there. Just look at the Ukip flags in the Brexit rally.
      Latest people to join are Paul Joseph Watson, Sargon of Akkad, and Milo.
      I kid you not.
      Don’t wait for the World’s most trusted broadcaster to tell you these things!

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      • Oaknash says:

        YD – I have changed my views on UKIP
        Batten is very impressive – he speaks well, debates well and is a lot more honest about the “Religion of Peace” than Farage ever was.

        Time is getting short for parties to establish themselves – and I think Batten is pretty good on party disipline too. My only worry is whether UKIP may have been infiltrated by those more willing to elect “idiots” to keep it de-stabilised.

        Batten may be the last chance we get to solve our problems here in the UKIP by conventional politics.
        Worrying.

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        • Holly Selassie says:

          Batten may well turn out to be our Patton!
          As opposed to what that fat Tory BBC catholic was doing with the same name.
          Hope AMW and Batten can agree some sharing of tactics, we need both.
          But Gerard has made a good start, steadying the ship. And I note-never on the news now, too dangerous and no joke to the lefties.
          Good signs.

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  45. vlad says:

    Beebistan webshite tells us we ‘Must See’ “Views from the pro Euro March”.

    Why?

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  46. G.W.F. says:

    Not a bad appeal indeed.

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    • ToobiWan says:

      From the tweets,I’m surprised the BBC haven’t picked this up. Silly me, it wasn’t written in the Guardian!
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11314580/Sir-Winston-Churchill-s-family-feared-he-might-convert-to-Islam.html

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Oh that Guardian eh?
        Only THEY would tell us that some history “research fellow”(sexist surely!) attached to Cambridge found a private letter to Sir Winston in his sister-in-laws possession-and came up with THIS.
        I`ve read the bits of “The River War” that is necessary.

        I` think we`ll now find that Churchill was only trying to meet Rommel, so he could arrange the necessary paperwork and transfer fees so he could sign the Bosnian Muslim SS squad for the coming football season.
        War? Pah!

        Who`s funding “Doctor Doctor” then?
        And is he a stand up comedian whose dad named him after the Thompson Twins hit record?

        It`s the Guardian Toobi, if you ever find any piece of news in there that IS news?…do tell us all.
        AJP Taylor down to George Monbiot, yeek.

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      • Loobyloo says:

        I agree…I wonder who has funded this research, and how convenient to publish such a book when Islam needs some favourable bolstering. Shame on him for tainting a national hero in this way.
        Plus, Al Beeb probably will catch on, just they’re a bit slow sometimes. As with TR.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    So incredibly IMPARTIAL BBC Woman’s Hour which march were you on ?
    Someones got a shot of a tweet saying the were on the Pro EU march
    I’m betting it’s a photo shop ?
    I see Arun Singh putting up a screenshot with his reply
    and saying @BBcWomansHour deleted their tweet

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    • Oaknash says:

      This is not a BBC relevant point but I have to get it off my chest before bed. Have just got back from London
      Before the demo I sat in a small square opposite Victoria station just a chilling a bit and I have to say I dont think I have ever been so ashamed to be British.
      The station seemed to be vomiting up groups of what looked like generally to be very well healed professional types all draped in blue flags with gold stars and all appearing to be having a lovely time.

      I have relatives who fought in both wars and in particular one Uncle who I never knew because he was drowned in the magazines of HMS Suffolk in the Norway campaign because the ship had been hit – These people gave their lives for our freedom and so we could stay an independent nation and keep our sovereignty and these well heeled children JUST WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY!
      And it makes me feel sick – rant over , Goodnight all.

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  48. Holly Selassie says:

    Bog Roll Brexit.
    Say what you like about Boris.
    THAT is a good phrase-and ought to anger all the right people.
    I`ll leave my story about having to look for a ring in a bin by a squatty loo in Kefalonia shall I?
    But his metaphor, and my awful job seem to sum up this useless Tory shambles, and their treacherous, conniving Soros sirens at the BBC and across the whole top tier of our sordid elites.

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    • StewGreen says:

      So Diane Abbott’s Guardian letter is trying to mobilise a protest-jihad against Tommy supporters ?
      …. And since Tommy has made reports from Israel & has supporters there, Diane’s action fits with Labour’s anti-Semitic culture.
      ( I struggle on facebook or Twitter to find posts supporting her letter, I find more opposing it

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