Start the Week Open Thread 11 June 2018

President Trump meets the Rocket Man today and its possible that the 1950 Korean War will officially end . Britain lost over 1000 dead in that war .So how will al beeb cover this historic meeting ? We can but guess.

This week marks a year since a fire in a tower block. There might be no better week  to abstain from Al Beeb…but for those witnessing the bias here be a new thread .

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524 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 11 June 2018

  1. Swelter says:

    Yeah First up! Sorry ….only swing by on this site generally to read common sense and reassure myself that I am not alone. .As I have totally given up on the BBC now a days. Thanks to fed up for keeping these threads going.

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  2. BRISSLES says:

    Phoooooeeeee, missed by 3 minutes !!!! Still I can ride shotgun.

       16 likes

  3. BRISSLES says:

    The Director of Labour & Social Studies is Faizir Shaheen. What sort of job is that and who pays her ? (currently on Sky reviewing the papers and strangling the English language for all she’s worth)

       51 likes

  4. taffman says:

    Breaking news ………
    Major fire at Chase Farm Hospital .
    Nowt as yet on the nation’s foremost news provider .
    Wake up maxi !

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  5. JimS says:

    When I was growing up we used to have proper stories and girls’ stories. Girls’ stories were invariably set in all-girl boarding schools, with all female teachers. Our heroines usually spied on someone like the local (male) butcher who they would reveal as doing something bad like smuggling.

    Now the likes of the BBC don’t bother with the labels, they pretend that girls’ stories are real stories.

    The latest is Hidden on BBC Four’s ScandiNoir slot, where they try to prove that the Welsh can be as dour and depressed as any Dane.

    The female detective inspector reports to her female boss and is assisted by her female back office staff. When she goes home she battles with her three sisters. Hopefully she will be called back to work by the unseen female pathologist. Yet to be linked into the murder story is the female district nurse. There are some men however. There is a male detective sergeant with a lecherous eye for the ofice females, despite being married himself. There is the dad, the ex-chief constable, but he is old, stale, set in his ways and soon to be dead from cancer, (probably voted for Brexit!). The district nurse appears to be in a relationship with Marc, who is clearly a bad sort.

    Oh, I forgot, the masonry works is run by a woman, who does no work. That is the preserve of a mere male, Dylan, who is very obviously bad. In all the F:M ratio is in excess of 5:2 and not a single male looks to be much good.

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    • nofanofpoliticians says:

      You did well to make it all the way though, it lost me within about 10 minutes. Dour doesn’t do it justice.

         23 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        I think the Handmaidens Tale beats everything on the box for being dour and depressing. l felt uncomfortable watching the first series, and haven’t bothered with the second – I’m not ready to slit my wrists just yet.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Excellent reason to give up TV, I would have thought, and save money on not paying for a TV Licence.

      In April next year, the Snuffy household goes past the £2,000 savings mark.

         29 likes

  6. taffman says:

    Three more stabbing in Londonistan. Over to you Al Beeb.

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  7. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    BBC Shit Watch: I am afraid there is more shit to report.

    On the News Homepage the BBC had the “The Full Story” on: “What makes ‘serial poopers’ poo in public?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-44395861

    Notice the alliteration in the title – the BBC are taking the p at the taxpayers expense.

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  8. BigBrotherCorporation says:

    BBC News Shite really is full of … shite … and oestrogen overload again tonight, I really feel like I need to get a dose of that from somewhere (does seafood packed full of plastic microgranule goodness contain oestrogen?) so I don’t feel left out all the time, maybe that’s what all the transgenderism is about?

       37 likes

  9. ToobiWan says:

    From yesterday, BBC.
    Join the dots, BBC!
    “I mean, somebody who defecates in public has mental health issues. It’s as simple as that. If you’re socialised, that’s the last thing that you would do.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-40851035
    Then,

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482816/Peterborough-A-city-crumbling-pressure-immigrants.html
    Another bloody female Chief of Police!

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I notice the sign in Peterborough about not defecating in public, is in English. That’s very hostile! Should it not also read:
      لا تبرز في الأماكن العامة
      nie defekuj publicznie
      ha ku dhicin dadweynaha
      nepārklājas publiski
      عوام میں خرابی نہ کرو
      etc?

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  10. TheRebelUK says:

    Still on the BBC biased website, the only mention of the free Tommy Robinson protest is biased entirely. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44427518

    They pick out the bits they approve on ( like pointing out there was some trouble) and miss out several facts they don’t like. Why haven’t they reported how many people were there protesting and why they were protesting? Does it not bother the BBC that a man was tried, convicted and locked away in a day? Are the BBC not concerned about free speech going down the pan? If the BBC were unbiased and a reliable news provider they would cover all the facts. Oh and of course the article I linked to also cleverly omits telling the reader why Tommy was at the court and who was being tried there and for what crime. We all know it was Muslim grooming gang but BBC more interested in making Tommy the bad one and they don’t seem to care about them sick fucks in the court

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    • kingkp says:

      The sick fucks in the court room are the tip of a very large iceberg. That is what remains unreported. I suggest everyone pick up a copy of ‘Easy Meat’ and read it cover to cover.

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  11. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    It seems if a Muslim person who is a doctor is found guilty of medical negligence following the death or serious harm of a patient, then the government are lobbied into action to protect the Muslim person. In this case the Health Secretary is bringing in new measures to help protect people like Dr Bawa-Garba when they are professionally negligent.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44413443

    This is an example of how quick the UK political system is in responding to issues involving Islam in order to protect Islam.

    Compare that with the UK political response to news of hordes of predominantly British-Pakistani and Bangladeshi men sexually abusing and raping lower class white English girls up and down the country.

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  12. ToobiWan says:

    I’m waiting for the first time this Government tries to criticise or sanction another shithole country on the way it treats it’s people, especially journalists who tell unpalatable truths and things the government don’t want to hear. What this Government, and even more so, our “truth” speaking BBC and so called much vaunted free press, have done in locking up TR, is shown the world that they are no better than the communist states of old and the present day theocracies they have castigated in the past. They will be hanging people from cranes next!

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  13. Roland Deschain says:

    It isn’t BBC bias, but part of the larger picture of media manipulation. The Tommy Robinson march is at last being discussed by Nick Ferrari on LBC.

    But oh, dear. Brought on to discuss are someone from “Stop Hate Now”, or some such name and some professor who is an expert on the far right and fascism. So that’s several thousand people tarred. The one thing about LBC is that they take listeners calls and the first person on showed that Ferrari knew nothing about the march. He thought about 1,000 were there and was put right by the caller. Who was promptly cut off.

       98 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Listening on, I do get the impression he’s rather taken aback at how many callers are putting him right.

         64 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m not a customer of LBC but I guess this chap treads a careful line to keep his job and not get thrown out of the NUJ for failing to stick to the lefty line

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady watch

      They’ve sent Sopel to Singapore to cover the North Korea talks . Then they gave air time to an ex State Department dickhead appointed by the hussein Obama regime to talk crap . Basically President Trump is a fool and has been hoodwinked into meeting Kim jobby in order to ‘big up’ the latter and president Trump doesn’t know what he is doing

      I think there are going to be plenty of sour grapes being thrown around this week . I’m guessing nothing tangible will come from the talks because it is hopefully the start of something . This will be seen as a failure by MSM

      But as a great man once said Jaw – is better than War – you know the one . Off switch already .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I put up a thread about language last week – example –

        Boat carrying 809 illegals in the med is called a ‘ rescue ship ‘ not a ‘ ferry’ ( emotional exploitation )

        Glenda Jackson wins award . – described as ex labour MP. So obviously party allegiance has something to do with winning Tony Awards .

        The good thing is the ‘off’ switch remedies this stuff.

        The 74th Londonistan stabbing victim ( Turnpike Lane ) has been named as an Albanian . Good luck to the old bill trying to sort that one out.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Today’s running disorder…

          “Good morning. The headlines: Trump and Kim to meet in Singapore. Norway’s UK ambassador, Mona Juul (0810). Italy closes its port to migrants. Italian MP Guglielmo Picchi (0840). And female football commentators prepare to cover the World Cup. Former Arsenal player Alex Scott and broadcaster Jacqui Oatley (0745). Listen here: https://bbc.in/2sMQB4c”

          What, precisely, is the ‘news’ component to the final ‘story’?

             39 likes

          • Guest Who says:

            Luckily, for the hard of thinking, the bbc has boiled it all down to 300 words. Still, 299 more than Katty’s ‘insights’ though.

            ****
            Tump and Kim prepare for summit showdown

            Kim Trump summit

            Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un are both in Singapore, ahead of their summit on Tuesday. The US president has tweeted of “excitement in the air”, while his North Korean counterpart has let it be known – via state media – that a “new relationship” is a possibility.

            The pair, who have exchanged vitriol in the past, will discuss North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme. The US wants it to end, but what can the world expect? We look at the meeting that could change everything.

            And, here’s a reminder of what the North Korea Nuclear crisis is all about, in 300 words. Plus, we have a full profile of Mr Kim.“

            ***

            All the bbc wants you to know.

               32 likes

          • Guest Who says:

            As to the football, the new team may explain the new focus:

            She is pretty.

               12 likes

            • Up2snuff says:

              Guest, ah but …
              … does she have a great smile when caught out by a male that she is pretending to ‘interview’ while attributing (the wrong) words to the interviewee?

                 6 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Jon boy best make sure Accounts is well prepped. Booze in Singapore is not cheap.

           17 likes

        • Al Shubtill says:

          Since when did al Beeboid’s care a damn about the cost of anything for themselves? After all, they’re not paying.

             38 likes

      • JimS says:

        “World statesman meets Tyrant”.

        Trump Derangement Syndrome, it’s in their DNA.

           22 likes

  14. Alex says:

    Utterly laughable.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-41670342

       42 likes

  15. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, elsewhere, news about a President Mrs. May and the U.K. state broadcaster don’t appear to have much problem with.

    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2018/06/10/erdogan-predicts-war-between-the-cross-and-crescent-over-austria-mosque-closures/

    Bbc Editorial Integrity means they have to devote all their time and space to silly handshakes and sour commentary.

       34 likes

  16. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC reporter John Sopel again shows his bias:

    “”….only to see a tweet from Donald Trump a little later rescinding his signature over something Justin Trudeau had said at his news conference. Unbelievable.””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44434558

    Who is he to say ‘unbelievable’? It happened. But Sopel objects to it as it does not fit with his blatant Left Wing BBC politics.

       81 likes

    • nofanofpoliticians says:

      Here’s the link

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44434558

      I’m intrigued by the comments that Trump is making about tariffs applied by Canada and the EU.

      He says that the US are being stitched up (I paraphrase).

      The Sopel comments and BBC News portray Trump as being to blame.

      No investigation into the underlying (Trump) claim. Nothing. Zilch.

      I suggest that Trump is probably correct.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Trudeau, the BBC’s man, lost a false eyebrow during a speech.
        This could be his Milliband and the bacon sandwich moment

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           25 likes

        • vlad says:

          It’s not just the little fart’s eyebrows that are fake: every inch of him is fake.

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      • Payne by name says:

        I also agree on the lack of analysis on whether Trump has a point on the tariffs. Trudeau is a white knight for defending his people and imposing tariffs yet Trump is a monster for worrying about his people.

        The thing is, because he is right on Nato and Europe has arrogantly traded on the US shield of protection whilst ridiculing them to their face, I can totally understand him wanting to flip them the bird.

        Add to this, we all know that the EU is a protectionist racket imposing tariffs on everyone yet this portrayal of Europe being picked on by Trump is pathetic.

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    • Payne by name says:

      I agree on the unbelievable comment. Is Trump supposed to run his presidency according to Jon Sopel. Should everything be run through his filter.

      This is a journalist meant to be representing one of the world’s premiere news agencies yet is infusing his ‘reporting’ with his own bias and personal outrage like a bedroom blogger.

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    • Guest Who says:

      He had added an ‘unreal’ too. Sounds like he can barely cope.

      And then…

      An American beauty our Jon, whose toenails inside Guy’s alimentary system must be barely visible even to Nick R.

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  17. Dystopian says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-london-44435677

    “Detectives described the suspects as two white males, aged in their late teens or early 20s.”

    Blatant bias. We never get a description of the suspects unless they are WHITE!

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  18. Dystopian says:

    Apparently a boat full of migrants is stranded in the Med because both Italy and Malta are refusing them entry.

    Remarkably, there are women and children on board.

    I wonder if they are the bearded kind.

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    • G says:

      Dys,
      “…Apparently a NGO boat full of migrants is stranded in the Med….”
      Lest we forget who the taxi service is provided by.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      According to the BBC ‘news’ website: “Among those saved and brought on board the Aquarius are 123 unaccompanied minors, 11 younger children and seven pregnant women”. All of whom appear in this photo that illustrates the article:
      _101964423_migrants.jpg

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      • ToobiWan says:

        London casualty replacements, Ian.

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      • Tabs says:

        Shocking that the three white person in the photo are positioned much higher up than all the black people. I don’t care if one of them is handing out life jackets or driving the boat. His elevated height is a dominate white entitlement slave trader stance.

        The rescue boat is also now not an equals opportunity employer. 3 white men and 123 blacks and the boat crew are STILL a 100% white crew – outrageous!

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      • vesnadog says:

        “123 unaccompanied minors, ”

        Each child could only be chosen to sail after having memorised the Qur’an in preparation of teaching their white school chums the truth re the religion of peace.

        BBC must follow these poor neglected kids! (or, MI6 must)

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  19. MarkyMark says:

    When the zero figures start increasing … then I will have hope for the future of the UK. “

    17 Days since Tommy Robinson arrested for highlighting continued child mass rape and torture (25may2018)
    0 Days since Tommy Robinson’s release.

    36 Days since Day for Freedom March in London (06may2018)
    0 Days since BBC reported on Day for Freedom March.

    2.5 Years since Anjem Choudary arrested for preaching moderate Islam.
    0 Days since Muslim community condemn Anjem Choudary and demand he serves his full 5 year sentence.

    717 Days since UK voted to leave the EU @52%. (24jun2016)
    1 PM says ‘Brexit means Brexit’.
    0 Days Since Leaving the EU.

    . . .

    22 Murdered in Manchester.
    1 PM tweeting that 22 people were LOST.
    0 Arrests followed.

    . . .

    600K Migrants Lost by the UK Home Office.
    20K Terrorists on Watch List.
    3K Extreme Terrorists on Watch List.
    1 PM who said ‘Enough is Enough’.
    0 Removed from watch list.
    . . .

    364 Days of #WorldNoHijabDay NOT supported by UK Foreign Office.
    1 Day of #WorldNoHijabDay supported by UK Foreign Office.
    0 Requests for #WorldNoHijabDay (no hijab day)

    . . .

    184,595 People charged (2016) with non-payment of the BBC TV Licence Tax by Capita TV Licensing. (mostly women)
    0 Apologies from Chris ‘£2.3m’ Evans whose wages are paid under threat of prison.

    . . .

    448 Days since Owen Jones said he’d quit social media (11mar2017)
    0 Days since Owen Jones quit social media.

    . . .

    137,000 girls and women living with FGM, and 144,000 girls at risk of FGM.
    0 Arrests for FGM in UK even though it is illegal.

    . . .

    100,000 Air-conditioned Tents in Saudi Arabia near Mecca, near God.
    0 Fellow Muslim migrants sleeping in those tents.

    When the zero figures start increasing … then I will have hope for the future.

       50 likes

  20. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, in Singapore, seems the new move to encouraging diversity through immigration is working its magic there too.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    SJW progs today
    9am R4 Marr is off, so actually there are no screaming lefties scheduled maybe they are at a conference or something.
    Kirsty Walk is covers : talking about Psychedelic drugs & consciousness.
    9:45am “Masih Alinejad writes about her life of resistance in the Islamic Republic of Iran” Book of the Week
    2:15pm This week’s drama over 5 days is a dystorian story of Britain becoming balkanised.
    The cover illustration is a dark scene with a Union Jack jacket. (which sums up the attitude)
    3:30pm Food programme : Punjabi, vegetarian and Polish
    “They talk about the difficulty they had as immigrants coming to this country and starting their business selling traditional Polish food when hardly anyone knew what it was.”
    4pm Bristol poets: 1 black and one “mixed race”
    8pm Politics 5 episodes about the rise of NIGEL FARAGE
    … oh no actually show title is The Long March of Cobyn’s Labour
    “Steve Richards presents the first part of a new series about Jeremy Corbyn.
    Having previously explored the Labour leader’s extraordinary path to the top of his party,
    ……. How far has he strengthened his leadership and his standing in the country?
    we explore how Jeremy Corbyn has been adapting to the challenges of leadership and preparing for possible power. “

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    • Kaiser says:

      “The Long March of Cobyn’s Labour” how fitting

         26 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      and on TV
      8:30pm BBC1 Grenfell 90 minute special

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Stew- You will then be pleased to hear the touching ‘Grenfell’ song, which brings tears to the eyes. Justin Webb blessed us with it at the end of Toady.
        Then again, if you’re a cynic, you might think it’s yet one more attempt to exploit the tragedy for monetary gain while at the same time, keeping the name in the public eye for political purposes.
        Fortunately, there is absolutely nothing in our wonderful country that could encourage cynicism.

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  22. Al Shubtill says:

    Heard the odious Kinnock Jnr. on Toady, trying to smear Arron Banks with fictional Russian excrement. I do hope he lets his mouth run a little too much (as was his father’s wont) and Banks can sue some of that EU (our) money out of this awful [email protected]@rd.

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  23. Woolwich says:

    A genuine question because I don’t have time to scroll through the weekend thread. What happened at the Tommy march on Saturday?
    I looked on Google and the first page had a story from an Irish online news source, a story about 5 police being hurt, a story with the words Far Right, several stories about a planned Newcastle march being cancelled due to policing issues as Ed Sheeran was appearing there at the same time, and several sites that I’d never seen before but all protestor sites looking for volunteers to counter protest.
    So what did happen and how many were there?

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    • TrueToo says:

      Woolwich,

      So what did happen and how many were there?

      Difficult to know since so many impartial, professional, experienced, well-funded media organisations chose, like the BBC, to ignore the event or misrepresent it or just plain lie about it.

      However, as usual they didn’t reckon on social media and there are several videos which were streamed live, like this one:

      Apparently there were about 20 000 people there.

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  24. scribblingscribe says:

    Words that have fallen out of use Number 1:

    Multiculturalism.

    As you know this was the buzz word before Diversity. It was in every BBC program on TV and radio, and all their newscasts. People who disagreed with it were full of hate and often lost their jobs.

    Yet, oddly no one mentions it now. Is it because it was a total f***ing disaster across the West?

       51 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The bbc has conferred new meaning to words like ‘trust’, ‘transparency’ and ‘integrity’ too.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      A clever move. ‘Diversity’ is a far more natural word with a broad spectrum of meaning, which ‘detoxifies’ ‘multiculti’, with its explicit socio-political connotations eg : We have a diversity of plants in our garden, there is a great diversity of stars in our galaxy.

         27 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        Diversity … replacement … what percentage of diversity is best?
        1% ?
        50%?
        99%?
        100%?

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        • Tabs says:

          100% is the BBC target.

          Remember when they did an article on too many male managers in professional sports? Some sports have 100% male manager, some have 50/50, but the BBC mentioned that netball is 100% women managers and “is the most diverse sport”.

             24 likes

          • The Sage says:

            Yes, the English Premier League is also grossly under represented in terms of English managers. Often there are just four out of 20 managers. Any move by the EPL to increase this figure to the right proportion and to ensure that English managers are not being discriminated against (as must be the case)? You bet there isn’t.

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        • fakenewswatcher says:

          Marky- I would say the more diversity, the less stability and social cohesion. So we can work it out easily.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Don’t forget a diversity of crime, too: stabbings, shootings, terrorism, child rape gangs, people smuggling, drug mules, FGM, acid attacks, honour killings (sic), etc.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      From VDARE
      A guide to American political discourse –

      “Compassion for migrants” = Cheap labor
      “Diversity” = Cheap labor
      “Racial justice” = Cheap labor
      “Limited government” = Cheap Labor
      “Free markets” = Cheap Labor
      “GOP Moderate” = Supporter of Cheap Labor. Also war.

         14 likes

      • Terminal Moraine says:

        Brilliant Al. That sums it up perfectly.

        Please post again in the future, it’s worth remembering!

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  25. StewGreen says:

    @Fedup Did you close the Tommy thread yesterday ?
    It’s probably a good idea instead of Maxi creeping in to ruin it.
    There’s an update , on the Leeds trial I said on the 5th it was still going on, but now seems that a few hours later the jury finished all the verdicts on all the charges against the 9 defendents after about 7 days
    \\ Trial (Part Heard) – Verdict to be taken 05/06/2018 12:16
    Trial (Part Heard) – Hearing finished for FAISAL NADEEM* 05/06/2018 12:45
    Trial (Part Heard) – Case to be listed for Sentence on 22 05/06/2018 12:54 //
    * They use that name for this second lot of the trials, cos he is the first of the 9. The final lot are to be tried in September.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – no. I didn’t but will try do. It unless others object . New iPad soon. No dodgy ful..stops ..

         13 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Fedup Maybe it automatically closed
      It would good for me to get in a comment that the trial had ended on the 5th, before the thread had close, but I’ll live with it

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  26. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Sorry to hijack this thread but can we get the Football Lads Alliance to get as many Free Tommy banners as possible to the World Cup games.
    Also, our ‘Tommy Tommy Robinson’ chant. Can we get that going at the games.
    Embarrass our government.
    Please pass on to all your mates and anyone in the FLA.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      I put this in the daily mail and daily express comments.
      It appeared in their comments but was very quickly removed.
      Breitbart left it on.
      It would seem we have fewer newspapers that support free speech.
      Only on here and Breitbart.

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  27. MarkyMark says:

    Here is BBC’s Simon ‘£200K’ Schama who educated Diane Abbott deflecting the rape of children into sex … just like “Why are Tommy Robinson and the extreme right obsessed with paedophilia?”

    “…I’m just struck by how obsessed by sex these two guys (Farage/Steyn) are, it’s a bit sad really… (audience laughs, Simon smiles)” – Simon Schama (£200K BBC Salary) {youtube The Munk debate @2:00}

    “..I’m slightly amazed at our colleagues (Simon Schama [email protected]£200K) ability to get big laughs on gang rape…I’m not much of a feminist but I draw the line at the 3 year old getting raped, and the seven year old getting gang raped in a basement. (audience claps)” – Mark Steyn {youtube The Munk debate @4:46}

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    • StewGreen says:

      Debate result Con wins with 22% vote gain.
      topic “Be it resolved, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”
      supported by 77% initially but then by end only 55% agreed.

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Strictly : Mail and Sun wrong again
    “BBC chiefs must give answers to viewers angry over secret vote in last year’s final ”
    Truth is last years final they only released the winner’s name, they did not reveal the vote tally of the other top three. So people are angry saying I used my 15p to vote for one of the others I want to know how close they got.
    There is also an allegation that the public didn’t vote for non-whites and the BBC want to keep that secret/
    Now when someone sent in a FOI the BBC simply just ignored it. The Information Commissioner has simply reminded the BBC they have to issue SOME form reply, which will probably be
    “the info is till secret for purposes of journalism/literature …so we are not going to tell you”

       33 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Stew, odds are that this coming year’s winner will not be white ! (there’s been a whisper that Jay Blades – someone who paints chair legs a different colour – is a contestant. Tall and of colour, so he’ll definitely be in the final)

         25 likes

    • Captain Panick says:

      I faintly recollect that the BBC do publish the full percentage results for SPOTY. So what is the difference between that and a different bunch of overpaid dancing celebrities?

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    • Deborah says:

      I guess part of the reason the BBC doesn’t want to release their voting figures may be because we would see how few people these days ringing in to vote and that the difference between winners and losers are huge in percentage terms but with smallish numbers. I am predicting we may be told the 3 runners up’s places but not the numbers.

         10 likes

  29. Fedup2 says:

    Marky. – i. Think. They made him a ‘sir’ . Suppose. He pretends. To. Be. British. When. He is. Not American.

    Sorry bout the full stop madness. Screen damaged on the ‘pro

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  30. MarkyMark says:

    797 Lords.
    650 MPs.
    £300 for Lords to enter a heated room for the day with free coffee and biscuits.
    18% MPs Pay rise since 2010.
    0 Interest in the citizens.

       25 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      What’s happened to the petition to get rid of the ‘Lords’. (Strange to have such things ‘ruling’ over us, when ‘equality’ is an all-consuming obsession. In Orwellville, all sorts of crazy paradoxes abound.

         20 likes

      • ToobiWan says:

        I got this on 02/05 FNS.
        Dear ToobiWan,

        Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Give the electorate a referendum on the abolition of the House of Lords”.

        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/209433

        The debate is scheduled for 18 June 2018.

        Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

        Thanks,
        The Petitions team
        UK Government and Parliament

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    Not sure I can raise the energy to do a TOADY Watch in all its glory, today, so I will content myself with a wildly ridiculous fictional possibility, thanks to Stephen Kinnock MP (Lab, Remain) who appeared in the last half hour of the programme, close to 9am.

    Stephen Kinnock is anxious to have Arron Banks investigated for his links to Russia, all his boozy lunches, picking his nose in public, owning a diesel car and driving at 31mph in a 40mph limited zone.

    Two months back, Russia, its Kremlin and Putin were the boogie man of the Western World, thoroughly evil and tyrannical and evil, Putin an evil despot and fascist – no doubt – as well as an evil Communist. Did I mention that Putin was considered to be evil? By the BBC, HMG, everyone in Parliament and the ‘Commentariat’. Well, he was. He appears to be a bit more cuddly, this month, as he is now talked about in rather less condemning fashion. In mid-March, Putin was worse than Kim Jong-un, that there Putin was. Back then, (whispered), he was ‘even worse than Trump’.

    The BBC, newspapers and various politicians were talking about the possibility of going to war against Russia in punishment, if not escalating things much further and cancelling the World Cup. If that was not going to be enough to make Putin mend his ways, then Britain would go for the nuclear option and stop the England team from taking part!

    Know what? That Skripal poisoning in Salisbury? It woz the EU wot done it!

    Over two months and the work of two thousand investigators, their efforts have revealed ….
    ….. nothing.

    Except it was bodged, nearly had disastrous collateral damage and has ended in failure for the investigators (so far) and the perpetrators despite the colossal investment of time and taxpayers’ money.

    Very EU, all that.

       32 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Up
      My toady exposure was blissfully short and glad to have missed kinnock windbag junior . I can’t be bothered to look at how his constituency voted in the referendum ( Rhondda?) but I know a bigger number of sane Welch people voted out – but hey -wrong kind of democracy -have another go .

      The west will have to engage with Russia sooner or later whether it’s run by the KGB or not . Even if Putin fell out of a 2nd floor window they’d only be a similar type . It’s too risky isolating them as it doesn’t take much for a shooting war over some damn accident or misunderstanding .

         13 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        All I will say, Fed, is something I have posted before ‘the truth is often stranger than fiction’.

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  32. MarkyMark says:

    Someone dropped a Lammy earlier … I did not get a chance to respond . …

    “If you are aware of anybody who has been given a job for any reason other than merit, for example someone who has been appointed to sit on the board of the Office for Students, please alert @toadmeister to this injustice immediately.David Lammy added,”

    . . . .

    Last week the BBC also revealed it would be removing qualifications from new applicants’ CVs in a bid to increase their social diversity. {telegraph.co.uk 21sep2017}
    . . . .

    “By 2020, the BBC wants its employees to comprise 50% women, 8% disabled people, 8% lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.{bbc.co.uk 14sep2017}”

       22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Blimey I would have thought at least 700 out of the 900? Peers didn’t get there on any merit ….

      Imagine if there was a selection process for every job instead of ‘a friend ‘ of someone . As if .

      Maybe Lammy needs to get out more . On his bike .

         26 likes

    • scribblingscribe says:

      David Lammy asks: “If you are aware of anybody who has been given a job for any reason other than merit”.

      Erm, how about David Lammy?

         49 likes

      • Jagman84 says:

        Jack Dromey? Not bad for an all-women shortlist. Maybe gender fluidity is an old concept after all!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      If I put on my application to the BBC that I have mixed-race ancestry and am self identifying as T, Q or, at the very least a bit i, then that stays on my CV but the fact that I have a Double First from Oxbridge in English and Media Studies, have Mary Beard as an uncle and have edited various student publications while volunteering in Hospital Radio (IN THE NHS!!!!!) in my spare time, that will all be removed?

      I wonder what that approach to recruitment will do to the world class, outstanding public broadcaster over time?

         33 likes

      • fakenewswatcher says:

        TW- That’s what happens when the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

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    • gb123 says:

      RE D Lammy using Abbotology.
      How are the BBC going to find a person who is 50% woman, 8% disabled, 8% lgbt, 15% black, Asian and ethnic minority? Pretty strange person if you ask me, and shows the BBC mindset in all its glory.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        gb123, I guess if you can indulge in the Libby Lefties ultimate fantasy and ‘self-identify’, then there can be no possible reason why you cannot ‘self-identify’ different bits of yourself as different races and genders and (dis)abilities.

        I, merely for example, might ‘self-identify’ as 52% male, 48% female, 18% dis or less-abled (“I got a bad attack of the flange, mate! I’ve had this ‘ere leg on and off for abaht two months, mate.”), 10% Chinese, 2% black African, 52% Christian, 48% Jewish, -1% Muslim, – 1% Hindu, -1% something or other, +5% Orthodox, 30% ‘i’nquisitive as a heterosexual and 100% for Leaving the EU.

        Put me in with some other suitably mixed up candidates and we’ve all got a job, irrespective of capabilities.

        Did you know my left knee is half Zoroastrian from Macau?

           9 likes

      • Jagman84 says:

        The Guardian newsroom?

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  33. scribblingscribe says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44432056

    Apparently, Italy and Malta no longer want hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Macron has closed the French border to illegal immigrants. Anyone know why these governments are doing this? I ask because I don’t think the BBC offers any explanation.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      scribbling, they do seem to think it bad, though. The current Mexican stand-off between Italy and Malta was refered to this morning by BBC newsreaders and presenters in rather tight-lipped, maiden aunt : small nephew, regarding terms.

      There was a lot of ‘tsk, tskkk, tsk, tut,tut’ coming from my radio speakers and I’m pretty sure there was no electrical storm in the vicinity.

         40 likes

      • Doublethinker says:

        There are lots of comments on this story in the Times today,, i estimate that 90% are applauding the action of the Italian government. I realise that those who comment are not a representative sample of the readership of the Times but 90% plus is an impressive demonstration that those who read the Times dont want Europe over run by migrants. We can safely assume that those who read the Telegraph, Mail and Express are of similar view. We know that polls throughout Europe clearly show that migrants are unwanted . So why does the BBC pretend otherwise? It is certain that the BBC will now start a campaign for the UK to take more migrants trading on the gullibility of Brits who believe the heart rending stories that the BBC will concoct and are unduly influenced by dumbo celebs calling for us to throw open our borders and our hearts. Stupid and dangerous is what i call it.

           50 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Scribe- One would like to think that politicians there have awoken at last from a long and potentially fatal slumber…

         13 likes

  34. Tabs says:

    My daughter was watching CBeebies yesterday. A programme called Biggleton. A pretend village where young children play the roles of shopkeepers, fireman, postman, policemen etc but has a disproportionate high number of black and disabled children.

    an example of which is here…

    at 2m54s you can see 5 children, 1 in a wheelchair and 3 black.
    at 3m19s you can see 4 children, 3 are black.
    at 3m52s you can see 4 children, 2 white, 1 Asian and 1 black disabled.

    Pretty much every camera shot of 2 of more people will be >50% ethic minority/disabled. I can’t see just 2 white people in camera shot with noone else in view anywhere in the video.

    Anyway yesterdays episode ended with a sing song playing musical instruments such as small guitars, tamborines etc. What did the BBC give one of the black girls to play?……….

    ….. a set of Bongo drums!!! Bloody racists!!!

       49 likes

    • ToobiWan says:


      “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man (or whatever gender you self identify with).”

      BIGgleton? Sounds a bit sizist to me, Tabs

         20 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Hey, at least it is consistent with BBC’s historical dramas and newsroom 🙂

         20 likes

    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Hi Tabs, don’t underestimate the scale of immigration over the past thirty years. Some parts of London are like Africa, other parts like Arabia, other parts like Bangladesh. Up north there are areas where it is like Pakistan.

         33 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      Police Officer Liam has yet to acquire his rainbow accoutrements, I see.

         16 likes

    • ScottishCalvin says:

      I don’t mind the over-representation of disabilities on TV, it’s not as if we have a choice on that one. It’s a fairly static proportion of the population and it could happen to any of us.

      On the other hand, Rasta Mouse (another CBeebies show) is certainly the most racist show to be on television since the 70s. It’s genuinely worth looking up on iPlayer if you don’t have kids to know it. Summary: A patois speaking band of mouse reggae musicians solve mysteries on a Caribbean island, most of which involve petty theft. The leader ‘President Wendsleydale’ is clearly modeled on a south American dictator, as is his wife, and there’s a suspicious number of orphans on the island, implying that it’s set after a brutal civil war.

         3 likes

  35. TrueToo says:

    Interesting couple of videos by concerned citizens streaming the Hezbollah demo yesterday. Good to see a cheerful, colourful, flag-waving, musical, peaceful demo from Jewish opposition to the hatred spewed by the terrorist supporters:

    https://www.freespeechtime.net/2018/06/watch-uk-police-refused-to-arrest.html

    I guess, if the cops are obliged to allow the Hezbollah flag, they can hardly ask the Jews to take the Israeli flag down.

       20 likes

    • David R says:

      “I guess, if the cops are obliged to allow the Hezbollah flag, they can hardly ask the Jews to take the Israeli flag down”

      Why nt? Equal under the law vanished from the UK with Blair’s arrival and is certainly not true for ROPers.

         3 likes

      • TrueToo says:

        True. I wouldn’t put it past the traitors in the alleged government to instruct the police to take down all flags except for the terrorist flags.

        However, there appears to be something interesting going on. they let Geert Wilders in to address the demonstration in support of Tommy Robinson and even escorted Wilders to his car after his speech. Could it be possible that the government is experiencing some shame over its appalling betrayal of its own people?

        Or is it simply that it senses that the time is not quite right for total capitulation to Islam?

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  36. JamesArthur says:

    Driving early..R4.
    Hilarious.. They could not find anything good to say about Trump ‘s meeting. All interviewees were totally against Trump..not a single word of praise – except for one American who told Jon what he was saying was ridiculous – No answer from Jon…
    However it had to happen..Jon Sopel actually gave credit to Trump..then I think he realised what he had said and added credit to others as well…

    It is clear the BBC want this Summit to fail..So I hope it is a great success for that reason alone.

    The rest of the news was so bloody predictable
    Migrants – with children and pregnant women..I hope the Italians stick to their guns and these NGO’s stop acting as a taxi..
    A song from Grenfell – had to switch off…(notice the BBC doesn’t report on the false claimants from Grenfell)
    Oh EU lover S Kinnock of the EU money grabbing Kinnock family – wants Aaron Banks investigated by police…hmm no mention of Soros or money spent on Remain campaign…apparently the bad guys are only in the leave campaigns

       45 likes

  37. Payne by name says:

    What a complete waste of time the G7 summit is. Just a chance for some leaders to look important when really the only person making any impact in the world is Trump.

    Hand shakes, smiles and an expectation of everyone to buckle down and tow the same self congratulatory line. And Trump shakes that up quite nicely because he won’t be anyone’s whipping boy.

       37 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Not just important but ,much more importantly , virtuous in the eyes of the assembled leftist Globalist media.

         18 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Payne, may be a waste of time but when the BBC’s poster boy James, John, er…, ‘whatever Webb cannot remember’ Trudeau spoils it all at the end it does provide us all with a good laugh.

      I wonder whether the BBC will remember Justin Trudeau’s ‘blooper’ at the end of this G7 as well as they remember Amber Rudd & Theresa May & Windrush at the Home Office or will it go down the Vince Cable Memory Hole?

         8 likes

      • montmorency says:

        I wonder if they’ll remember Trudeau’s errant eyebrow in the way they remember Trump’s errant hairpiece. Some leaders are more open to lampooning than others, apparently.

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  38. thirdoption says:

    “Teenager, 18, who lied that her ex-boyfriend drugged and raped her is fined £200 for wasting police time”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5829315/Teenager-18-said-ex-boyfriend-drugged-raped-admits-wasting-police-time.html

    She isn’t facing prosecution for perverting the course of justice because she’s only 18 yrs old.

    She tried to ruin a man’s life by falsely claiming he raped her which would have led to him receiving a life sentence if he’d wrongly been found guilty.

    All she gets is a £200 fine and 15 community service.

    Justice in this country has become a total joke.

       48 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Thirdoption
      Surely at 18 she would be classed as an adult in the eyes of the law, so I can’t see any reason why she shouldn’t be treated as one and be punished accordingly. I bet a man would be.

         29 likes

      • ToobiWan says:

        Some 18 year olds (and above) are still classed as “children” in some quarters, Lobby.

           16 likes

        • Lobster says:

          Toobi
          Oops! Apologies, I forgot those sub-18 year olds (the ones who look about 35) on life rafts in the Med.

             22 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Imagine if she’d done something worse, like reading out from a newspaper a list of the accused from outside the court. She’d have been locked up within hours. Fortunately, her transgression was not as serious as that.

         30 likes

  39. Kaiser says:

    How to take the piss

    or make your piss boil take your choice

       8 likes

  40. ChrisMorrison says:

    The things they say.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDA) is the gift that keeps on giving. Slowly but surely the true feelings of the elites for the majority of the people they live with are revealed. And fairly unpleasant reading it often makes. Writing in the Times today Alex Massie refers to Hillary Clinton’s election losing “basket of deplorables” sneer, and notes it was an “unfortunate but not altogether inaccurate description” of Trump’s supporters. Even Clinton no longer refers to a quarter of the American electorate as deplorable, although of course like Massie she still thinks it a not inaccurate description. A view shared of course by many in the Democrat party, driven madder by the day by Trump’s steadily improving ratings.

    The world changes daily before Massie’s elitist eyes. He tries abuse – if Trump wins a second term “the toddler-in-chief will be truly unleashed” and he tries sticking his head in the sand – “the EU’s resistance to democratic challenge contributes to its stability ..”. But TDA has taken complete control. The default position when dealing with the United States, he concludes, must now be to verify, then trust. “Above all it means confronting the fact that these people are not our friends”.

    It’s a good job that Trump is such a nice chap. He might just take the hump at being lectured by a bunch of European elites that have had a free defense ride on the US for 70 years. If he wasn’t such a pleasant fellow he might have got fed up with the Europeans forming trade cartels to run large trade surpluses with the US. Such is the generosity of the man that he sees nothing wrong with the Europeans taking all these profits and defense savings and constructing giant bloated welfare states – all the better to sneer at the ghastly yanks and engage in endless virtue signaling.

       44 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      The Politically Correct NEED to virtue signal, Chris. It must rank along with breathing and passing water as a physical necessity for them. Since virtue-signalling usually seems to signify an absence of common sense, this can be the only explanation for the frequency and volume thereof.

         18 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Chris
      Hitting the nail on the head with that one . Of course it was all a Russian conspiracy to make the EU Reich pay its way on defence for the first time . Personally I thank the Americans for their defence barrier and recognise that ‘ special relationship ‘ and foreign policy are not the same thing . Self interest always wins ( except the insane HMG overseas giveaway)

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  41. MarkyMark says:

    “Sadiq Khan at March For Women: I’m a proud feminist”

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Now let’s see, how many wimmins votes does that put in my bag…?

         20 likes

      • Lobster says:

        Fake
        Not many muslim ones, as they would all be of the postal variety and filled in by Hubby or some “Community Leader”.

           20 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      A feminist? That rates somewhere between estate agent and used car salesmen in most people’s moral compass.

         18 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Muslim feminist? Hmmm really?
      Taqiyya at its best/worst!

         26 likes

    • montmorency says:

      Sadiq Khan, as a Muslim and a proud feminist, must be standing beside, among others, Maryam Namazie and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The latter on Hardtalk, BBC.

         6 likes

      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        A must watch.
        To have such a brave and knowledgeable lady, on the run and formerly at risk of her life to get such loaded idiocies from this BBC creep is deeply misogynist, racist and condescending.
        He quotes Tariq Ramadan, all other sharia shills; implying that she`s just a hysterical woman.
        If ever you wanted to see the BBC at its most truly evil; and such a brave woman who actually IS a Muslim. And how the BBC scum trash the few brave souls who know what Islam did to them.
        Don`t miss it, Sackur is dhimmi scum number 1 to me.

           7 likes

      • kingkp says:

        The sort of Englishman who should have been aborted.

           3 likes

  42. G.W.F. says:

    That picture of Trump surrounded by yesterday’s EU leaders is providing lots of scope for laughter. I wonder why the BBC have not followed it up

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       43 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Angela says:
      “Mr Trump! You want Europe to be a good market for US goods and services, but not so organised that we remain as a serious economic competitor to you. The only way we can achieve that is by flooding the continent with millions of Third World migrants, and that costs a lot of money! Have you not read the briefing documents prepared by the State Department and CIA after WWII?”

         18 likes

    • Al Shubtill says:

      Poor Ma May doesn’t even make it into that picture, not worth even taking the p**s out of.

         19 likes

    • Excartographer says:

      Oh but they did G, the d.j. Jeremy Vine had a segment devoted to an analysis of the photo, you know the one that shows Trump (no title of course) sitting defensively with his arms crossed to indicate that he’s not engaging with the debate whilst he is cowering under the powerful but beneficent Chancellor Merkel (full title of course) whilst other world leaders gaze on rapturously except the Japanese who are apparently embarrassed by ‘Trumps behaviour’. He had some plummy voiced art “expert” who made lots of noise before opining that it is clearly representative of Satan being interviewed by the angels “I suppose we know who’s supposed to be Satan” chuckled Jeremy. Followed by some carefully selected callers agreeing that the photo proved he was a rude, sulky, imbecilic …..well, you get the drift. No one suggested that there may have been hundreds of photos taken at the meeting but it was only this one that the great and good wanted to reference.

         20 likes

  43. Dystopian says:

    Having read the story about the Love Island Brexit discussion (below), one has to wonder if the younger generation (who supposedly all voted remain), actually knew what THEY were voting for.
    They actually think that we will no longer be (physically) in Europe, it will be harder to go on holiday and that there will be no trees after Brexit!!!

    And they accuse the “older” generation of ruining their future on that basis?

    https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/love-island-2018-brexit-hayley-trees_uk_5b1b87f8e4b0adfb82695492/

       26 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants to grow up these days and who can blame them? Toys are us. … Time for a return to democracy, individuality, and family. I’ve said my piece. Thank you. {naturalchild.org – john gatto – jan1990}

      http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html

         14 likes

      • Holly Selassie says:

        A joy to read this Marky.
        Met this great man in 1999, and we corresponded for a while.
        A true great, please keep posting it so other teachers here can read it.
        Quite a charmer too, but lost most of his PC audience with his defence of the 2nd Amendment.
        But I knew he was right, as did quite a few of us.
        Schools will go the way of the Euro very soon, they`re WAY past their sell by date.
        How many times will we have to get them to colour a worksheet using Obama shaded crayons, and exhorting kids to recycle batteries, use a condom and pick up a GCSE in scinece at reception?
        Ta for posting!

           1 likes

      • maxincony says:

        MarkyMark,

        The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years…” – John Taylor Gatto, 1990

        The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age…” – Peter the Hermit, 1274

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        • Alicia Sinclair says:

          Only maxi eh?
          1274.
          Well, that`s me satisfied.
          Category error, dear.
          Peter the Hermit probably wasn`t teaching in a Leningrad School, watching the Vienna Metro getting tagged and with druggies wanting to rape his donkey in Paris or Seville.
          No schools back then, get the idea that Gatto isn`t talking from the top of a thirty foot pole or from down in a monastery basement. Maybe you are maxi, a dungeon dotard and blowhard like yourself may see the parallels.
          But in 2018, I don`t.
          Have you anything more recent than Peter the Hermit? Peter the Great? The Kaiser or Emir of Constantinople maybe?
          Poor maxi, not even willing to risk the Restoration yet. Give him time though-a few centuries and we may yet get to Bologna getting its Quality Assured sticker. Prat!

             3 likes

        • Dystopian says:

          maxincony June 11, 2018 at 10:29 pm
          MarkyMark,

          “The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years…” – John Taylor Gatto, 1990

          “The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age…” – Peter the Hermit, 1274

          Vote 1 likes

          Copy n paste. Good innit!

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      • ToobiWan says:

        Could this be part of the problem, MM?

           1 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Dyst
      All they have to be told is that they’ll have cheaper Netflix and duty free will come back and it’s sold .

      I think that many bubble dwellers believe that joe public spends s lot of the time worrying about the detail of this or that when in fact a lot of people don’t bother with al beeb, politics or other things which vex the like of me. I don’t mean to sneer
      Or criticise because that is their choice in a semi free country and the political class of Clegg and kinnock would be delighted .

      But then one day one gets bitten on the ass .

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  44. MarkyMark says:

    Except the British in Britain … that home has to be open for everyone in the World.

    ‘everyone has a home to call their own’ – Jeremy Corbyn

    “Today I’ll be speaking @Crisis_UK about how we must #EndHomelessness and make sure everyone has a home to call their own.” – Jeremy Corbyn 11jun2018

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  45. ID says:

    It’s comedy hour on Daily Politics with Joke O’Burn and various clowns.
    I’ve just heard Son of Kinnock the Welsh Windbag claim that he saw it as his sacred duty to maintain “trust and confidence in our democratic processes” by smearing Banks as a conduit of illegal Russian funds. Respecting the outcome of the referendum would be the best way of fulfilling his sacred duty rather than clutching at any straw to undermine the will of the people.
    You have got to hand it to Kinnock as far as self control is concerned – not even a snigger as he claims to be a noble defender of democratic ideals. Hypocrisy and mealy mouthed treachery has reached a new nadir.
    If there is anyone who needs investigating it’s the Kinnocks. They have made a cottage industry out of the “Brussels gravy train”.

       46 likes

  46. MarkyMark says:

    “Hillary spent a $1.2 billion to come second…” – James Woods Twitter

    . . . .

    Remain in the EU spent £15,165,621 to come second excluding a leaflet from the Government costing £9 million, a comment from Obama ‘back of the trade queue’ plus 100 celebrities and Captain Picard backing it.

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  47. Roland Deschain says:

    Just imagine if the BBC had done a similar tweet with a scantily-clad female? They are utter hypocrites.

    Comments could… well, you know.

       41 likes

  48. vlad says:

    Yes, only females are allowed to lust in the brave new beeboid world, while a wolf whistle will soon be a hate crime… for blokes.

       27 likes

    • Al Shubtill says:

      There are lots of workplaces where for many years, a wolf whistle could land a chap in trouble.

         8 likes

  49. Tabs says:

    Grenfell Tower: I ‘regret’ my reaction, says Theresa May
    Prime Minister Theresa May has said she will “always regret” not meeting the residents of Grenfell Tower in the immediate aftermath of the disaster.

    Which residents does she regret not meeting exactly? The fraudulent one who never lived there or the unknown number of illegal immigrants in sub let flats?

    Wouldn’t make any difference whatsoever if she met some of them and nodded with a bowed head for 10 minutes. Theresa really means “she regrets not showing some virtue signalling to shut the Momentum lot up”.

       50 likes

    • Despairada says:

      It’s not the job of politicians to emote and comfort survivors after disasters. That’s what the Royals are for.

         20 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Desp, TM was only just down the road and would probably have been alerted at least after the fire was known to be very serious. She could and should have been there very early, as should Boris Johnson.

           3 likes

        • Despairada says:

          Yes, I suppose you’re right. Getting mean in my old age.

             0 likes

          • Up2snuff says:

            No, not that but perhaps not thinking tactically. Exactly like TM and Bojo.

            TM had just had the GE failure of a lifetime. Bojo had been delinquent in his Party duty although not as bad as Hammond and some others but he was ex-Mayor of London with experience and knowledge and contacts.

            Both could have done themselves and the Conservatives a power of good by getting there straight away, even if only to encourage the firefighters and get on the ‘phone to sort resources that would help those evacuated from their homes.

            TM as Party leader could have been on the ‘phone to Andy Street to get his contacts from old days in the JLP to help with essential bedding, clothing & foodstuffs for the short term. Bojo similarly. At least the local churches went immediately into action.

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  50. Dystopian says:

    Breaking news news on BBC. Spain is to accept migrant boat that no one else will.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      I am not sure what is happening politically with Spain, but they have massive unemployment and are one of the poor countries of Europe. The boat is going to be docked in Valencia – and I suppose the majority will head down the coast to Benidorm. I know that in that region crime is high – lots of muggings and lots of elderly people as victims.

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      • Major Gammon says:

        Pedro Sanchez, is their new pm, a socialist, and his first big chance to virtue signal to the EU.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The new prime minister of Spain is a deranged socialist. It is part of their job description to put the needs of foreigners above their own people. This is sometimes called Corbyn Syndrome.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Tautology – anyone who is a socialist is, by definition, deranged.

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    • Despairada says:

      Really disappointing that. I had hoped that the Italian refusal might be the beginning of the beginning of the end of the so-called migrant insanity.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” – Winston Churchill
        Take heart: Italy is not the only country to refuse the madness. Malta said no. The Vizegrád Group countries of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic say no. Growing numbers of people in Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Britain say no. It won’t happen overnight – there are powerful vested interests and half-a-century of failed political ideologies to be overturned. But it will happen and the only variables are the timescales, amount of repression in the meantime and the eventual pain of change that is the sad, inevitable consequence of liberalism and globalism.

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    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Here is the article on the Beeb website
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44441386

      Interesting that Beeb’s Spain correspondent calls it
      “A smart move”
      That wasn’t exactly the phrase that sprang into my mind

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