Im lost for words about the State Broadcaster but I’m sure you are not. So the weekend starts here…
Weekend Open Thread 25th May 2018
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Why so many articles about drag artists BBC?
Supply meets demand. Apparently. And saves leaving the building.
The BBC seem awfully pleased about Ireland voting to kill lots more babies earlier than previous, and develop a home-grown specialism that-of course-they`ve not been doing for years anyway.
But when all your knowledge of abortion comes from Sinead O Connor, Christy Moore and Steve Coogan-then that`ll be great news for them.
And isn`t paying for Irish students to go home to vote by our NUS called bribery in other guises?
Ah well, at least the emerging sex gangs and Somali Muslims of Dundalk won`t have to be sought for maintenance now.
Ireland-used to be a country once didn`t it, as opposed to a Sweden with shillelegaghs. The EUs bitch, top to bottom, tragic really.
But beyond repair now.
And it seems that they, egged on by the not-Irish bBbc, are intent on dragging us in Northern Ireland, not the fuckin’ ‘North of Ireland’ as they insist, further into the shit with them.
Not sure how many countries benefit from the BBC No. 1 diverse faith community, but it could end up a very long month.
BBC News
Fasting for 22 hours a day – how do Muslims in Iceland cope during Ramadan? (via BBC Lifestyle & Health News)
bbc.in/2IOqDYd
As to coping mechanisms, I have seen some articles where the community leaders have demanded the host nation head back to less productive times back in the old country with them to even things out.
It’ll be similar at the Orkney Islands mosque
..which is probably that most “Muslims” don’t actually bother too much about fasting, once they are in a free environment.
5pm Saturday news programme with Chris Morris. Chris was interviewing the man John something or other who led the anti-abortion campaign in Ireland. John was silly enough to say that Ireland was a democratic country and that his side had lost. Chris M didn’t half shut him up quickly before anybody could even think the same about Brexit.
The Londonistan evening standard is reporting the demonstration in support of Tommy Robinson . Obviously all the demonstrators are described as “far right” but at least something is being reported .
On line breitbart is reporting it along the lines of “Tommy xxxx has been xxxxxx for contempt of xxxxx ” which sums the frightening restrictions now being imposed on free speech . Won’t be too long before all trials have reporting restrictions on them in case any one gets ‘ alarmed or distressed ‘.
I hope I’m wrong but al beeb wil report it as traffic congestion in Whitehall “
Tight swimming trunks UK’s ‘most hated clothing’…….
I’d dispute that. I’d say its men’s sandals that show hairy toes to an unsuspecting world, normally coupled with calf length shorts that make an appearance once the sun is out for more than 2 hours. (don’t get me started on football shirts worn away from football matches)
B – I think they meant Tom Daley is Britain’s most hated person . They couldn’t show us enough shots of the little turd in his speedos. Wonder how motherhood is treating him?
Socks and sandals (shudder)
I’ve got to say that the Irish pro abortion supporter who said on the al beeb 6 Pm news that the vote represents freedom for future generations might want to work out that future generations might not be as big as they might have been . Life is cheap when people choose.
future generations might not be as big as they might have been
No problem. The Irish government could just import more people from, say, Somalia, Eritrea, Nigeria, Albania, Vietnam and Iraq etc. They could even Do The Jobs That Irishman Don’t Want To Do ™ and Look After Us In Our Old Age ™, just like in Britain.
Ian
The outcome of the Irish referendum is unclear – yes they ve decided on pro abortion but not what kind of abortion or what abortion really means and maybe there should be another vote once they put it through the Irish Parliament . Maybe their upper house is against abortion and will attempt to stop it.
I’m sure , too , that the state broadcaster – al rte will be pro abortion but swear to god that it’s impartial .
What’s with Al Beeb?
They appear to be obsessed with abortion and sex. Their front page is presently plastered with it.
Is it because they think the propaganda that they promulgated on the subject has been a success?
The service is a failure. It tries to influence the news when it should just report it. It has become a Frankenstein, out of control.
It is a swamp that needs draining but our leader is afraid of doing it.
Surely the Irish referendum must be done again because the people didn’t understand what they were voting for.
Get Gina Miller over there to stop what the people voted for.
If we had another Brexit referendum I’m sure we would increase our majority to leave but that would not stop the remoaners. They wouldn’t just go away. They would carry on delaying and trying everything to overturn the result.
That is why another referendum is pointless.
Ian
I wonder who does all those jobs that no one wants to do, and looks after the old ones in Japan?
The Japanese presumably, seeing that they have virtually zero immigration.
They’re also developing automation at a fast pace.
Lobby, I was in Japan a few years ago, and honestly? their work ethic is such, that there is no job that is ‘beneath’ anyone over there. And their elderly live to such a great age, that its the ‘young’ elderly who look after them ! (as an aside, I can say hand on heart, I have never come across such pristine clean public toilets anywhere else).
I have visited many places in the world, but Japan is the only place I would ’emigrate’ to in a heartbeat. Politeness is second nature, a healthy eating regime and lifestyle, extremely low crime rate, no migrants trying to change the place, two main religions – Shinto and Buddhism that co-exist harmoniously, and stunning scenery every which way. Oh and taxi drivers wear suits and white gloves, and once you get past the odd sight of the population wearing white masks, its all quite delightful.
Brissles
It’s a place I’ve always wanted to visit before I pop my clogs (or end up in a Thermidor!), but it sounds just like I imagine. I was totally impressed when I learned that the bosses of Toyota, Honda etc. all wear the same uniform or overalls as those doing the lowliest of tasks – no “us and them” attitude at all, apparently.
Quick update on Korea for y’all:
I just popped over to Guido’s site and I noticed that comments are off for all the Saturday 7-Up items, and that comments are now longer accepted for any of the other threads.
Something very odd is going on there.
How to kill a website in one easy lesson …….
Lobster
Two rumours, repeat rumours.
1. Guido’s site is going to be sold.
2. Guido has information of big leadership changes in the Tory Party and is staying out of controversy
If the site is going to be sold, it’s not going to be worth twopence h’apenny before long. Hurtling down the crapper and taking its credibility with it.
Intriguing actions both by buyer and seller if so.
Given what made the site valuable, namely the non-establishment scoops and the febrile comment threads, ditching both makes the sale and presumed purchase intention bizarre.
The 7-Up thread was being used to discuss [redacted] so Guido zapped the comments. I’d imagine everyone went to the next thread down and carried on.
His site, his rules. But if you’ve positioned yourself as the anti-establishment place for all the political gossip, it’s a bit rich to ignore what may turn out to be one of the most important political stories of the year.
The Saturday ‘no comments’ rule is more just an extension of the recent heavy moderation and to be honest, I’m on Guido’s side. It’s a bit annoying if you have a story about, eg the army, and the comments are 1000 people posting 3rd party articles about anything from Trump to Owen Jones to Islam who demand their ‘right to free speech’ on a privately owned website.
If every evening a momentum supporter demanded that you open your door so that he could come into your house and spend hours switching every conversation towards being about how great Jeremy Corbyn was, you’d likely (rightfully) tell him to shove it.
I post links to my cartoons and bits and pieces occasionally but only here because it’s a general discussion or on Guido’s ‘Monday cartoon’ thing because it’s on topic. It would be nice if Guido had an AI to filter our stuff that was off-topic but that’s just 5 years and/or $1m away so it’s easier to just turn comments off or have a heavy handed approach.
Normally I’d agree with you (though think Guido is a tad hypocritical as he used to encourage the irreverent comments) but I think this is a different case.
In this instance, the one person who should be talking about it isn’t. He’s made great play in the past of being based in Ireland and beyond UK courts’ jurisdiction, but when it comes to what seems at face value to be an abuse of process by the British State against an inconvenient individual, he clams up. Remember when Rolf Harris was being investigated and though he wasn’t allowed to mention that, he had several threads about an unnamed celebrity being investigated for child abuse. “Can you tell who it is yet?” Not a peep from Guido, when similar oblique references could easily have been made.
People want to talk about it, that’s for sure, but can’t find anywhere to do it and bring it to wider attention. There’s a lot on Twitter where it seems likely that Twitter are suppressing the #FreeTommy hashtag from trending. I believe the Government may have badly misplayed this one, especially if something happens to Mr Robinson in prison.
Agree with you Roland, re Guido’s double standard and that people do want to talk about it. It’s essential to talk about it. It’s not tittle tattle, it’s the present day equivalent of the eradication by the state of a turbulent priest.
Plenty of free comment here https://going-postal.com/
The petition’s gaining strength, now over 200,000 sigs and rising quickly. Incidentally I feel the petition has little chance of overturning the sentence but I think it’s vitally important that the ‘authorities’ who have badly overplayed their hand here know that their tactics have been observed and are being monitored by a wider public who do not have a voice in the MSM and certainly not on the BBC. Especially, as you say, if something happens to TR in prison which is a very real possibility.
Petition is here https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson?utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_campaign=triggered&share_context=signature_receipt&recruiter=97953690
Any Questions this afternoon largely followed the usual narrative whomsoever was speaking across the “left-right” spectrum. I did notice, though, that Ruth Dudley-Edwards conceded what amounted, for a BBC contributor, to a little echo of faintest praise for President Trump when she averred that his “controlled unpredictability” kept foes on their toes, whereas “being nice” as Clinton and Obama had been had got neither of them anywhere. Possibly Ms Dudley-Edwards meant the aphorism as an insult but I suspect not. She had, however, previously described both the President and Mr Kim as “narcissistic children”. Any Questions could not be allowed to pass without some opprobrium being hurled at the President. But she is not a card-carrying member of the BBC nomenklatura and provided a rare modicum of difference of perspective from what usually passes for “wide-ranging discussion”.
Any Answers, by far the best part of the show, has improved noticeably since the temporary replacement of Anita Anand by Andrea Catherwood. Ms Catherwood, whose pleasant Ulster lilt I enjoy listening to, is far less keen to intrude her own views than her predecessor, who had a Maitlis-like tendency to add a little coda of her own to any view expressed that was not part of the BBC narrative, as if to say “You may well think that but the correct answer is…..” But I imagine the rather headmistress-like Ms Ananad will be back ere long.
This is interesting and I have felt something similar in the recent past.
I hardly ever listen to “Any Questions?” now because, in my view, the spectrum of opinions is too narrow and skewed to the Left. “Any Answers?” is better, as callers have some freedom to “ski off piste” if you like. I know of Andrea Catherwood but can’t comment on her for lack of sufficient listening experience.
But I do recall on a few occasions feeling that Julian Worricker made a refreshing change as a stand-in for Anita Anand. He was polite and fair, encouraging callers with strong opinions to consider the other side of any argument; he was a good Devil’s Advocate. Also, we didn’t get that kind of summarizing tail-piece which you describe well in your penultimate sentence. He was professional and the broadcast was never about him or his opinions.
Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi
Life is too short , why waste your time listening to the rubbish ?
I used to be an avid listener to Any Questions and Any Answers. Skeldings sums up Anand perfectly, about the time I stopped listening. I have to say that I don’t share any optimism about callers skiing off piste because, the BBC is very rapidly retaining only a self-selecting audience, and you’ve got to get through the producers first!
The petition regarding the release of [redacted] looks set to hit 100,000 pretty soon. That, I would suggest, is a fair rate.
Be interesting how the politico-media estate ignores it as it climbs.
But I am sure they will try.
I signed it
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson
use a temp email if needed
https://temp-mail.org/
132,136 now and adding by the second.
signed and glad to do so. Tyranny must not be allowed to ruin this country . This is the most dreadful of governments and it will fall soon whatever the cost to us – I hope.
180,000+ and quickly rising.
Only tangentially related to the Evil Beeb: I’ve just watched an excellent mini-series on Netflix. I’d never heard of a single actor of the multinational cast, but they were all outstanding.
I draw two conclusions:
1. Channels like Netflix make the beeb redundant, may it die a rapid but painful death.
2. There are vast numbers of first-rate non-Hollywoood actors, who are not entitled, spoilt, depraved, smug, self-important, coke-snorting, immoral, amoral, leftie, egomaniacal virtue-signalling luvvies.
Please Donald, clear that swamp too while you’re at it.
https://twitter.com/marcherlord1/status/1000445772809342976?s=21
Tommys gone, the 2 year max to leave the EU was ignored
on a positive note I could not hate this government/ and it’s minions anymore..
For context:
The comments could be going better.
As here too.
If there can be a plus, this surely will bring Treezer and the BBC closer.
RD,
Does it come with a warning?
“Callers to this helpline number are cautioned that referring to any third party in an abrupt manner which we believe is a Hate Crime will be arrested. We’ve got your number and we record all calls to improve our staff’s ability to seek out Hate Crimes in all its forms”
I note the same West Yorkshire Police tell us that “Running Away” from our problems is no the answer, yes and people like Tommy want the authorities to face up to problems NOR “run away”
I am bloody sure there are people who will help themselves to unprotected young girls.
8pm on the BBC’s twin channel 4. A promo by Baroness Warsi. A voice over with some image on the screen. As if announcing that she was from the house of Lirds I meant Lords wasn’t enough to send me explosive, she then ever so sweetly (yuk) went on to say (not exact words) we’re thinking about Ramadan. Followed on by some insignificant waffle.
I bloody well wasn’t thinking about it.
While I’m exploding I might as well go all the way. Has anyone else noticed a London bus carrying a full ad for an Islamic charity. In big bold letters ‘For the love of Allah’
Mood – yes I have sat behind a bus carrying that add. Made me feel at home .
We have buses carrying this advertisement here in Manchester. We also have bus advertisements for “The Number 1 Urdu News Channel”. I regret to say I am not a subscriber.
Moodswing6,
It might be a good idea to use these buses with that name along the side as they may be safer than buses without that name on them if you know what I mean.
If Tommy Robinson had been part of a white British gang in court for serious and repeated sex offences against young muslim girls,
the police would NOT have arrested a muslim man in the street outside the court for expressing his concerns.
Why not, I wonder?
From the Independent (25/5/2018) Letters page:
“Banish ‘Today’ and smile again”
I gave up on the wretched ‘Today’ programme years ago. I was recovering from clinical depression and found its presenters’ (always negative) obsessions with politics, politicians and economics were the last thing to listen to first thing, or anytime.
I’d read advice to avoid news generally but the ‘Today’ programme is spectacularly bad, particularly with the current batch of presenters. I found peace on returning to Radio 7 (sadly renamed Radio 4 Extra) where humour, drama and no news were perfect medicine.
Give me Kenneth Williams, Tony Hancock, Peter Jones and Nicholas Parsons over Nick Robinson et al any day.”
Stephen Cameron (Leeds)
Musty
I get your drift but noticed that 4x has gone down the cancerous road of correctness . God it even puts an extended news quiz on to make people even more angry at the collective smugness of it .
I was musing over the reaction of beeboids to the decision of President Trump to abandon the North Korea meet . They still have the mindset that he is a career politician who reacts accordingly when he is actually running a White House in a way that the likes of Sopel, katty , Comrade snow and others can’t get .
The meeting may well go ahead but even if it does President Trump will never get the Nobel prize for peace as he is outside the establishment bubble
I was going to leave a bit of bait for maxi but he/she is too tiresome to bother about – particularly when the sad sop is awake at 3 in the morning .
I actually take some amusement in Jon Sopel and Katty Kay’s tweets about President Trump. They simply don’t want to understand how he works despite it being pointed out them on several occasions.
I think it’s great that BT ran the European cup final on YouTube for free. I don’t pay for tv – certainly not for al beeb but putting a footy game like that on for nothing shows a degree of grace which al beeb would never show in its current format. Perhaps it is the sign – together with flixnet – that al beebs future existence is not assured – however many Attenborough naacherr programmes it comes up with .
The football match may have been free and nothing to do with the BBC, but you still needed a television licence to legally watch it in the UK. A full digital record is left behind (IP address from your ISP, MAC address of the device, locational information etc) which could then be correlated with the licence address database to determine whether the premises were licenced. The BBC have done this in Northern Ireland, using provision in the Regulatory of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. RIPA 2000 was introduced with the intention of fighting terrorism and criminality, which gives a good idea of how the BBC views TV licence refuseniks.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bbc-uses-ripa-terrorism-laws-to-catch-tv-licence-fee-dodgers-in-northern-ireland-30911647.html
Ian I’m glad I wasn’t watching it in Blighty then – thanks- I use one of those blocker things as well but I’m sure the tv licensing section at gseheadquartersq – as corporal jones would say – would track me on the licensing reaper drone .
Get yourself a VPN, Ian and connect through foreign servers.
RIPA has also been used to fine people for using schools outside their catchment area and I’m sure it was mentioned in a case where someone put the wrong rubbish in their recycling bin.
Seems like some middle class right wingers have given the press a touch of the vapours………………
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5773155/The-Hipster-Fascists-Meet-Britains-sinister-far-Right-group.html
Bris
I wonder what the current definition of “ far right” is ? . ( I put this one on as a teaser for you Maxi )
Fedup2
“I put this one on as a teaser for you Maxi”
😀 😀 😀
Is he back ?
The usual bad journalism from the MSM. The writer mentions that a Mr Dupre has been sacked because of his views? Maybe or maybe not but the journalist should be clear.
Most importantly the main thrust was that the so called facists were concerned about the demographic decline of ethnic English in London and other cities. No attempt to investigate or give any figures.
In other words a MSM hatchet job and useless as information.
Zero out of ten
The DM seems to have managed quite the pole vault over a shark pool.
Admiration for Enoch Powell gets propelled to such hyperbole?
Brissles by amazing coincidence last Sunday’s Times had a story
The ‘hipster fascists’ who anti-racism campaigners say are breathing new life into the far right
\\Forget bomber jackets and beer bellies, Britain’s far right is rebranding with skinny jeans, trainers and honeyed words //
by Andrew Gilligan
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/past-six-days/2018-05-20/news/the-hipster-fascists-breathing-new-life-into-the-british-far-right-6hvtmq63k
..And I thought this looks like a CutNpaste job from the St Brendan’s Hatey No Hopers
There is a serious problem in British journalism in that we cannot see where HnH start and journalists ends
They appear to be the same people
Whilst overseas I am accustomed to seeing Ruling Party controlled media, run mostly normal stories interspersed with propaganda of the mode ‘look at those nasty people over there, don’t look at the way our govt department just screwed up’
These UK hitpieces against boo-word “far right” are of the same pattern ie massively propaganda-ry
ie the Times article goes big on Generation Identity UK, something to me which appears exceeding small
… then smears Tommy Robinson and then purports to give us a run down on the scene, but doesn’t even mention For Britain pr Anne Marie Waters
.. The Times article gets a kicking in the comments
Hey synchronicity spotters what are the odds that I just happen to be reading a week-old Times article and then open BiasedBBC to tell you guys about it ..only for the first thing I see to be a NEW comment by Brissles about a DAILY MAIL article of the same title ?…uncanny.
Looks to me as if the media are trying to please the new Moslem Home Secretary and encourage his fight against infidels (oops, extremists)
Nah Stew – its just that you and I are on the same page. 🙂 (duh!)
So Liverpool lose the footy final – who gets blamed ?
1- Hillsborough
2- hiesell stadium ( al beeb forgot that one )
3-brexit
4- the ‘cuts ‘
5-Muslim paedophile rape gangs
6- Tommy rxxxxxxx
Non of the above caused the loss,
It was me that willed it,
after taking a dislike to the liverpool fans on hearing their pro muslim chant.
about thier Egyptian striker:
Mo Salah-lah lah lah If he’s good enough for you
He’s good enough for me
If he scores another few
Then I’ll be Muslim too
If he’s good enough for you
He’s good enough for me
Sitting in a mosque
That’s where I wanna be
Scouse gits
It’s all Maggie Fatchers fault
I saw that Mo Salah on the pitch before the game praying to Allah. I commented to Mr Pevensey that Liverpool were going to lose. Later I saw the other player- Mane during the game, praying to Allah. What is going on? I asked myself. I haven’t watched a football match for a long time.
We’ve even given football over to that loathsome false god? Repulsive.
https://www.dailysabah.com/football/2018/05/24/liverpools-salah-mane-wont-break-ramadan-fast-for-champions-league-final
Lucy-Just wait till IRAN win the WORLD CUP !!
‘Regardless of their doom the little victims play’.
Putin is responsible of course, as he is for everything else in the world:
https://www.rt.com/sport/427934-twitter-putin-salah-injury-uclfinal/
Fed,
No ‘Brexit’ or, ‘Trump’ – shame on you! LoL
Referendum result in euro.
Turn out 64%
Pro abortion 66% anti 33%.
Not sure what the gender breakdown of the 64% might be but could guess that those with skin in the game might be more likely to vote . ( data source – irish times ).
I only write about this because it’s a referendum and compare it with the treatment of msm and the brexit vote . If the Irish can’t keep their legs shut or need to kill their babies that’s their business .
Bear in Mind that the current UK population is 65.6million
Look at the Times list on BBC viewing figures
BBC1′ top prog didn’t get close to ITV’s
BBC seems to serving 10% of population. What about the other 90% ?
BBC1 viewing figs (million)
1 EastEnders (Tue) 6.48
2 The Split 5.97
3 Countryfile 5.70
4 Antiques Roadshow 5.67
5 BBC News (Mon, 6pm) 4.93
6 Have I Got News For You 4.84
7 The Woman In White 4.70
8 Casualty 4.55
9 Ambulance 4.16
10 Holby City 4.13
BBC2
1 Gardeners’ World 2.95
2 University Challenge 2.72
3 Hospital 2.34
4 Only Connect 2.26
5 Britain’s Biggest Warship 2.18
6 Top Of The Shop 1.87
7 Cunk On Britain 1.47
8 Antiques Road Trip 1.46
9 Assassination/Versace 1.40
10 Secret Agent Selection 1.36
ITV
1 Britain’s Got Talent 10.71
2 Coronation Street (Mon) 7.94
3 Emmerdale (Mon) 6.58
StewGreen
With all the alternative channels now available, their viewing figures must be drastically down or they have been ‘adjusted’?
Taff,
Always wondered how they determine numbers of viewers. Speculation and/or lies?
Viewing figures are calculated by an organisation called BARB (Broadcaster’s Audience Research Board). They have equipped 5100 households with meters and other tools that track TV usage. These households are considered to be ‘representative’, with the figures scaled up by a factor of 5000 to reflect the entire country. So if, for example, 1000 of the households were watching the Royal Wedding on BBC1, the calculation would be that 1000×5000 or 5 million households had done so. Potentially, it could be the case that only those 1000 households had watched the ghastly spectacle, but for most statistical purposes it is considered accurate, at least within the broadcasting and advertising industry.
Thanks Ian.
Involving television broadcasters particularly the BBC, I would want to define, “representative”. Could that be like the ‘representative’ audience at Question Time? I’ll stop with, lies.
I recommend You Tube Rumpole of the Bailey and Colditz (and many others) – so much more worthy than almost all the current fare on the Bee Bee Cee.
Good job that the BBC is ‘financed in a unique way’ (i.e. the threat of prosecution and imprisonment) so it’s existence is not dependent on viewing figures…
Perhaps that 10 per cent would like to cover the BBCs costs by a subscription for viewing while the rest of us are freed from the TV tax.
Just shows the mentality of Sun reading Britain when the largest viewing programme is the puerile BGT. I can just picture it, obese mum and dad with a bucket of KFC weighing down the sofa with their kids who are swilling down the Coke. I can’t go on……..
Bread and circuses, Briss. ‘Twas ever thus.
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson
151,248 have signed
Will Al Beeb report it ?
Support the man .
Support Freedom of Speech!
Just signed myself this evening. It’s at 164,978 but of course the BBC will ignore it.
Just a handful short of 200,000
Heading for 250 000 which in Diane abbot would is nearly 3 million – or I haven’t got the numbers with me – or I don’t want to get bogged down in numbers – or I’ve been ill I’ve got diabetes you know .
The Breitbart story adds humour to Tommy’s sad situation
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/26/redacted-arrested-for-redacted-outside-redacted-leeds-crown-court-issues-media-ban
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BTW As ever take internet pictures with a pinch of salt, and I don’t know about reporting restrictions, but a foreign site shows pictures of people looking out of court windows whilst Tommy was arrested.
https://samnytt.se/video-medborgarjournalist-arresterad-utanfor-domstol-rapporterade-om-rattegang-mot-groominggang/
The scruffy PC (politically correct) police are not even wearing hats.
The whole event is a joke !
What has he done ?
Sky News in Australia told not to talk about it
https://twitter.com/Canisrah/status/1000528429505101824
“Brexit: UK is playing hide and seek in talks, says EU negotiator”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44266857
Stop playing games, the Tories need to get us out now or get a new leader.
We voted OUT two years ago and our PM is dragging her feet to buy time.
Jacob Rees Mogg your time is now, ‘up and at em’!
Watch the manoeuvres starting to evict May once the Article 50 notice expires next March. Gove being touted, Rees Mogg moves house to within 350 yards of The Palace of Westminster.
I had high hopes for JRM and agree with his views on the eu however he is coming over as a bit of a paper tiger.
He keeps backing May even though we can all see she is dithering her way to a brino.
Being polite,very clever and right about the eu is all very well but he is lacking the killer instinct to take the power which most of us want to see him do.
I would love to see someone like Philip Davies in the forefront.
Full of piss and vinegar and an in your face brexiteer.
You may have a point.
GW,
PM?: ‘Poisoned Chalice’?
Certainly a well the incumbent has well and truly left barren.
I would say so G ! TM gets a lot of flack – on here too, but really ? I cant remember Cameron having so much to deal with during his tenure. She’s had bombings, Grenfell, knifing atrocities, Brexit, a dire General Election, scandals, and been criticised so much that it would leave a stronger man crying into his beer. Short of the plague breaking out, I’m surprised she hasn’t gone gaga.
EnglandExpects
Word I have been hearing is that Sajid Javid is involved in talks for a peaceful transition.
The Sun says there is a Gove/Davidson plot
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6381904/tories-plot-for-gove-to-be-caretaker-prime-minister-before-scot-ruth-davidson-steps-in/
Personally I would prefer Bill Cash as Brexit ‘caretaker’. He knows all about the EU and, although with no killer instinct, has the gravitas of age and experience.
But whatever happens the Conservatives are never getting my vote again.
Geedo has just blocked my comment saying that Priti is worth supporting.
I think Geeedo has emplyed BBC moderators
I just posted on your behalf, lets see if it sticks
Comments have previously been purged once down to 12 now
One other comment from peter watson “Priti for PM – dump May NOW.”
S Times : Police prepare for Muslim extremist clashes on Anjem Choudary’s Release
Anjem Choudary, 51, who was jailed in September 2016 for urging Muslims to support the terrorist group Isis, is expected to be released on licence in *October* halfway through his 5½-year sentence.
Anti-terrorism officials at Scotland Yard are concerned Choudary’s release will heighten community tension, given his history of radicalising young Muslims and agitating far-right groups.
This shows how ineffective our criminal justice system is in dealing with the Muslim terrorists who don’t commit the murders but incite others. It took years to convict him, he got a light sentence considering his links to so many murderers and he’s out in half the time. Will this licence really inhibit him from resuming his ways? Of course not. There’s no prospect of us defeating Muslim terrorism.
EE,
Any trouble from him (AC) and I expect plod to arrest him immediately, get him into court within the hour and send him down for 13 months with a full media blackout on this news.
Speaking of mobile providers, this is some top media buying:
Plus of course, his very effective personal lawyer must be misinformed that he’s going to be released to ensure s/he doesn’t turn up and get in the way of justice in action.
EE,
I have a vivid recollection of a Sci-fi ‘Zombie’ type film in which Milla Jovovitch starred. I think it was, ‘Resident Evil’. In one passage of the underground facility being overrun by the zombies there was a corridor. As soon as flesh and blood (in the form of a human) entered this passage they were, (my expression) ‘sliced and diced’ by lasers. I retain this picture in my mind and relate that ‘passage’ to the criminal laws that have been introduced since the last World War. Fact is, that if the police take a ‘liking to you’ in their increasingly arbitrary way, you are already ‘sliced and diced’ by existing laws designed to, ‘get you, come what may’. This is exactly what’s just happened to ‘Amy’ and now TR. Expect more.
I can only see this phase ending in bloodshed.
EG,
This whole ‘slide’ seems to have commenced by the introduction of Human Rights in 1953 by the ‘Council of Europe’. Whether the original signatories to it were unaware of how this area of law would develop amorphously allowing for anyone to drag it in so many previously unseen or distorted ways, or it was hijacked by the liberal left early on. From that genesis the elasticity has known no bounds.
Sajid Javid, Moslem Home Secretary, supporting his own kind.
Choudary might even be awarded freedom of the city of London.
It beggars belief that those who argue against terrorism and invasion are banned from coming into the UK, whereas we are not deporting this unquestionably evil man. I don’t care if he has a British passport, he hates this country and all of its values. He is therefore not British.
On the day of his release take him in a paddy wagon and stick him on the next flight to Karachi or wherever he’s from. Worry about the legal repercussions later. In fact don’t worry about them, just ignore them and treat any lawyers who fight for this scum in the same way as the journalist Tommy Robinson.
It’s time to treat the alt-left fascists in the same way they are treating decent citizens now. Their gloves are off, we need to do the same before it’s too late.
middle of Rod Liddle’s column
\\ No defence for West Yorks plod
The English Defence League founder, Tommy Robinson, turned up in Leeds on Friday to film people going into the trial of several Asian men accused of “grooming” white girls.
He did not speak, chant, accost anyone or do anything but point his phone at attendees from a distance.
Still, several coppers bundled him into a police van, accusing him of a breach of the peace.
I’m not remotely a fan of the unpleasant Robinson.
But wouldn’t it have been lovely if West Yorkshire police had acted with as much rigour and alacrity when, in an earlier case, they were told of the horrific sexual assaults taking place on their patch? //
Good and sensible views, as ever, by Rod Liddle. The only thing I disagree with is the appellation ‘unpleasant’. Robinson was unpleasant, but he is a reformed character and to me now seems nice enough.
Thanks to our friend here who`s posted Tommys talk with James Delingpole.
Robinson is growing into a giant, his take on Army Recruitment, Mark Rowley, the flip flop nature of the Mail etc -as well as telling us that 27 out of 29 on trial in Leeds aree Muslims, 8 called Muhammad.
He`s been doing his homework, has papers with the CPS and the media about how h`e being used as a scapegoat and fall guy for Common Purpose.
Do listen stuff the snobs like Liddle, and(dare I say) Oxbridge toffs like Delingpole, good as he is to put this out.
My vicar said nothing today over coffee about this too-expect a call from the police myself at this rate.
https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1000688365769904128
https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1000653129539506176
The young Welsh Muslim women gaining confidence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-44195275
It never stops! See if you can get past the first sentence.
Second story includes this gem.
“We’re not oppressed and if a Muslim woman doesn’t talk, it’s not because of her religion, it’s because she is shy or quiet or scared of being called a terrorist.”
So we are the ones silencing muslim women? I should have known. Nothing to do with fundamentalist fanatics at all.
Words fail
Loobyloo the headline was enough for me.
BBC Online News ( Box Ticking Par Excellence ).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-44216461/i-want-to-be-the-first-wheelchair-user-in-space
“”In his own words, Eddie Ndopu is “unapologetically brilliant, black, queer and disabled”.””
…..and he wants to be the first wheelchair user in space. He’s destined for any job he wants in the Christian western world. But not elsewhere.
The state broadcaster of the United Kingdom knows what’s what (and, of course, what’s not, including to be talked about).
Bbc editorial integrity means that there is only space to obsess about speculation about their favourite politician, and certainly none to address their other obsession…
A man can get arrested on false charges and have a suspended prison sentence enforced, all within a few hours. And the government doesn’t want anyone to know about it. This is chilling and shows what kind of state we now live in. The states determination to protect Muslim offenders and to shut down debate on islamification of Britain is going to make the fight back very difficult.
EE,
I have a different ‘take’ on it.
I see this Tommy Robinson (et al. e.g. ‘Amy’) affair differently. There is no doubt in my mind that the Western World is under attack from those ‘Western Leaders’ who, mistakenly, wish to islamicise the West. without any debate. Hence the total silence on what is the object, process and final end game. The draconian laws they now put in place is merely the beginnings of the same laws in, for example, Saudi Arabia. All designed to, ‘keep the lid’ on the public before the introduction of Sharia. A slow exposure to what’s coming. They are being surreptitiously introduced piecemeal doubtless by agreement with the UN and Saudi Arabia which has been financing most of the transition. Expect more because islamisation will need the sorts of control exercised in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the Middle East. Women watch out: they will be coming for you soon…………..
2 days before TR arrest
That’s weird Real Based Amy gets a cop opening her house window from outside , not knocking, she grabs her video camera and so catches the cops coming in and roughly arresting her .
Only to then release her 10 hours later .. uncharged.
They’d arrested her for PCJ on the grounds that after police had asked for her story on “Have a gay day”, she gone back to ask the witness what was going on and why he’d now given a weird story
On a slightly less serious vein, regarding the Irish abortion result.
Do you think we’ll be hearing that the Russians had a hand in it?
Maybe Facebook…
Will Gina Miller be sticking her snout into the debate?
I wonder what Anna Soubrey makes of it.
We’re bound to discover that people were lied to; facts were “manipulated”.
Some folk have said that men shouldn’t have been allowed to vote because we’re unlikely? to need an abortion.
And yet the Irish Prime minister, Leo Varadkar, is gay, so why’s he even taking part in the debate?
No, the whole thing is a complete mess.
Quite clearly there’s only one thing to do.
A second referendum…
Diane Addup has declared the result as a win for Labour.
Any chance of
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson
getting its own thread, preferably pinned at the top of the menu?
Now at 187,000.
Old – it crossed my mind but I thought I’d leave it to D Vance or Rufus as I don’t want this site to fall foul of any retribution by those with the power to do that to mr Tommy xxxxxxson
Fed, completely respect your desire to protect the site – but can somebody explain, a legal eagle perhaps, why it is ‘forbidden’ to be talking about TR? He’s been tried, sentenced and he’s in gaol, so how is this sub judice? Genuinely confused.
See the Ezra Levant video
Since he’s based in Canada he explains the full thing
The second trial had finished the third one start in Sept
Maybe best leave Tommy issues to off shore based weblogs cos of the way UK based Antifa are so vicious and don’t hesitate to cheat.
I hope you’re being ironic Stew. Understand the reporting restriction on the ‘alleged’ rapists, which is ongoing because they’ve had to group them to try them, still don’t understand the restrictions on reporting on the done deal of TR in the clink. No reason for us not to talk about it right here in the UK.
The politico-media establishment has a bit of a credibility problem looming.
https://twitter.com/imamofpeace/status/1000495544895078400?s=21
Variable proportionality issues can apply elsewhere, BBC.
Looming?
Yes. Like a certain [redacted] petition, reality seems to be hurtling past the quaint bubble of delusion that exists in certain quarters.
Various ‘right-wing’ speakers at Speakers’ Corner this afternoon, including AMW at 2pm.
https://twitter.com/AMDWaters/status/1000427730033430528
How will the thought police cope?
Will the Jihadi wearing the tea cozy be there?
Video from today “because he is the only man standing up”
starts 30 seconds in
https://twitter.com/Steviech/status/1000712389178753026
Somebody posted a YouTube video recently of a couple of fly tippers caught red-handed.
Just came across this:
Bradford tops worst fly-tipping list:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/965624/bradford-fly-tipping-tops-worst-list
The video is included in the article.
No doubt West Yorkshire Police are trying to blame Tommy Robinson.
A great example of cultural enrichment bringing their #shithole country with them.
I’ve think I’ve mentioned before here that if you search for a postcode of a Mosque then look up that local area with Google Street View you will see rubbish, mattresses, weeds, uncut lawns and other crap dumped in their gardens and their local area.
An Google Street View example here, just 400m from Bradford’s Al-Jamia Suffa-Tul-Islam Grand Mosque
Street view link
and another
I heard it was all down to Brexit!
At the very least tipping off the BBC Blue Thunder unit.
The BBC has been elated at the Irish abortion referendum result; it has dominated all their news bulletins for the last two days. As usual, they (and YES voters) have hijacked language.
If you are a ‘NO’ voter, you must surely be ‘against women’ who are supposed to have control ‘over their own bodies’. So it’s apparently not about killing the bodies that are alive within the bodies of women when they are pregnant.
I guess the aged will be next. They too, will be in the way. So get rid of them?
The BBC has lost not time spearheading the campaign for a similar outcome in Northern Ireland. ‘Senior women MPs’ have as well, at Westminster, they hasten to report. You can feel a big campaign coming on. Poor Ms May.
I’m sure she would like to burnish her ‘progressive’ credentials, but in Northern Ireland she has a problem. And that could put her out of power.
At the moment, Paddy O Connel is pouring out his poison on’ Broadcast house’. Like the rest of the BBC, he is celebrating this as a moment of ‘great enlightenment’. And, like the rest of the BBC, he has seen the opportunity of using this issue to undermine the government, reliant as it is on DUP votes. And the latter don’t want to be bullied by the ‘liberal’ media.
Clearly an issue of importance and interest.
It has been noticed that the scenes of wild celebration and joy seem somewhat at odds with the actual circumstances.
Very odd, in fact.
Very odd indeed. Who would have thought that being given the opportunity to murder the unborn on demand would lead to such scenes of wild celebration?
Quiet reflection may have been expected, after the ‘great victory’.
But no…
Why are the BBC and the other left-wing media outlets using pictures of young woman cheering and hugging each other after the Irish abortion vote?
Are they all pregnant and now able to terminate? Are they all unable to obtain conventional contraception and are now looking forward to having sex for the first time, knowing that they can pop down to the local clinic when they get tubbed?
Petition update (now over 203K) by Mark Dimberline:
“I would ask that you all sign and share a new petition, set up to help keep Tommy safe in prison
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/220809/sponsors/new?token=6HSJ07E1lEDXuDBsTRon
Jonathan Wong’s petition:
Provide Prison Protection to Tommy Robinson (Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon)
Highly polarising activist Tommy Robinson has just begun his prison sentence, where his safety is in jeopardy due to his political views. We hereby petition for him to be segregated, thereby protecting his right to life under Article 2 of The Human Rights Act, for the duration of his sentence.”
When you click the link to Jonathan Wong’s petition it reveals it is being checked to see if it meets the petition standards and to try again in a few days. Huh.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/220809/moderation-info
Somebody tell me why Prime Minister May won’t throw the border problem back into the hands of the EU.
We need to say- we won’t put a border there so it is up to you to put one up if that’s what you want.
JRM this morning reaffirmed this morning on BBC Marr programme just how weak she is in refusing to play this very important card which would play to our benefit.
Is she completely dim?
We are Eire’s largest trading partner, of course they’re going to cave into this.
She is so incompetent. No doubt taking bedtime anti Brexit advice from Remainer husband cityboy Phil.
We all thought John Major was useless, but she takes it to a whole new level.
wronged
I think more attention should be paid to her city boy husband.
Does he still say Hello Playmates?
Oh what a glorious
thing to be
a healthy grown up
busy busy bee
I am getting sick and tired of the establishment-controlled media ignoring immigration and health tourism in debates about why the NHS is collapsing. I mean how f******** stupid do they think we are? Do they seriously think that the public aren’t aware of the devastating impact unfettered immigration is having in our public services? We’re being treated like primary school pupils. Stop unskilled immigration, deport illegals, stop foreign aid, privatise the bbc and then we’ll see how the nhs fares.
While we at it, deport the vile Liebour Party too!
Alex, spot on.
‘I am getting sick and tired of the establishment-controlled media ignoring immigration and health tourism in debates about why the NHS is collapsing’
EU countries are some of the worst offenders of health tourism. This country always pays up, EU countries have never been very good at the reciprocation. They need to pay up.
…and let’s not forget how much the buyers for the NHS are paying exhorbitant amounts for drugs which other retailers charge for next to nothing.
It is not so much that they think we are stupid (although they do), it’s more that they simply do not care about what the majority population think or want. However, eventually a tipping point will come. Consider the collapse of the Soviet Union. There were numerous reasons for this, but one factor was that the disconnect between reality and the propaganda became too obvious by the mid-80s and people knew they were being lied to. Sitting in front of their television sets watching Vremya (state news) at 9.00pm each night, they could not fail to notice that the world of plenty it depicted had no resemblance to their daily experience of shortages, empty shops and hardship. Once you get a trigger event: one foreign adventure gone wrong; one government scandal too far; one terrorist atrocity too great; one martyr too many (Tommy Robinson), then the edifice can come crashing down.
I watched the Sunday Politics programme today.
I never realised the government acronym Customs and Regulations Alignment Period would be so accurate.
It reads
CRAP
And these people lead us. Blood and sand.
Ian, they certainly do think we’re stupid. As Edward Lucas wrote in his Saturday review of David Runciman’s book ‘How Democracy Ends’ for the Times yesterday:
‘Recent electoral upsets, such as Brexit, can be blamed on wicked people winning by lying to stupid people’. In a nutshell, Lucas thinks that the majority of those who voted in the referendum are stupid. It seems to me that Lucas is a prime example of ‘arrogance personified’ and a typical representative of the entrenched elite he purports to oppose.
Lucas is also stupid.
Alex,
But last week, it was all the fault of ageing. Nothing more. No mention of the millions of immigrants from economies where there is virtually no health system so they all pile in on arrival to get all the issues they have sorted. Prime example: FGM.
Is there anything the dead hand of the BBC cannot drag down?
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/05/27/bbcs-climate-change-and-me-series-blasted-by-booker/
We are all aware that the advertising industry has to show a 50/50 split of b/w in our everyday life. Sadly this hasn’t reached the Chelsea Flower Show !! Twitter has gone into melt down with the usual cries of ‘waycist’, because some poor old sod, – a photographer commissioned by the Guardian, has indicated that its mainly ‘old England’ with perms and dresses who attend the show, and few BAME’s that he’s seen. Apparently the RHS are trying to do something about the lack of diversity in the horticultural industry.
Er, really ? how are they going to do that then ? Growing ‘stuff’ is alien to them, unless its something that can be smoked. Hands up those who have seen a BAME own an allotment, and how many wander around our garden centres, cos I’ve never seen any. The same at Crufts – brown people do not have animals as pets, and no amount of living here for generations will make them change.
Lovely team picture on Countryfile though, a black, brown and a mixed race who doubles up as a sports reporter, so they must feel out of place, despite hard pushing of the BBC.
The Twitterati ought to just shut up, because they couldn’t see the truth if it bit them on the arse !
I was always bad at biology, especially botany..but aren’t there any exotic black or brown flowers they could carpet the entire show with – to show ‘solidarity’ ? They could at least sack anyone white connected to the event.
Chocolate cosmos is brown and actually smells chocolately! It’s a good plant to have one or two of as a novelty. Chidren are amused at the smell. You wouldn’t want to plant the whole garden with it though.
Brissles,
I recall seeing a BBC trailer for some programme where we see the BAME in majority tending allotments. Surely if its broadcast by the BBC its a true reflection?
The weather forecast will be mixed… …mixed race
BBC Weather Watchers have previously been busy sending those not-so-subtle racial messages – you must have seen the smiley asian woman in her sunny garden next door to her glum middle-aged white male neighbour under his raincloud.
Well now we have the BAME Broadcasting Corporation’s Weather Watcher family. Black father, white mother and mixed-race son.
This sort of propaganda is particularly potent as it is so hard to challenge without the inevitable cry of ‘racist!’
In fact it is almost designed to provoke reaction: either the approving purring lefty liberal reaction; or a sullen silent but resigned acknowledgment of the inevitable.
In this way the BBC is free to relentlessly chip away at the psyche and soul of the nation until (they hope) – like that awful Blue Mink song – we’re a great big melting pot turning out coffee-coloured people by the score…
Have you seen our esteemed broadcaster’s pic on their Homepage illustrating last night’s storms? What else!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44269304
Decidedly Islamophobic – someone at the BBC has clearly made a cockup. Clearly shows God – our one, the real one – sending down lightning to destroy the heathen building.
Al,
Simply don’t watch.
…we’re a great big melting pot turning out coffee-coloured people by the score……
I remember being told in the early 1970s, that unless migration is halted, we shall all end up being a khaki coloured peoples. Here we are, nearly 50 years later, and despite being a 70/30 nation, we ain’t far there !!
We still allowed to sing that one Brissles?
One very dated line about the Chinese as I recall.
Fancy being the new Abba with me hun?
Oky dokey, although we might be banned from singing this which we should put on Twitter and watch the fall out 🙂
“Curly Latin kinkies
Mixed with yellow Chinkees
If you lump it all together
Well, you got a recipe for a get along scene….”
and then there’s this……….
“Brown girl in the ring
Tra la la la la
Look that brown girl in the ring
Tra la la la la la
Brown girl in the ring
Tra la la la la
She looks like a sugar in a plum
Plum plum”
I never did get what a sugar in a plum was.
‘…disgraceful headline from @BBCNews…’
At least the BBC are letting us know exactly where they stand. In a sense their increasingly blatant bias is self-defeating. They take the left liberals along with them of course but the BBC will increasingly lose the middle gound as that legendary BBC trustworthyness is thrown to the wind.
It’s not a bbc web page. It’s made to look like one. The page design copies an old BBC design from several years ago, and has no links to other bbc stories. They are obvious clues to anyone. the bbc.com instead of bbc.co.uk in the web address is another clue. It’s a single web page with links to the BBC web site. It’s an example of how easily people can be fooled, and has dangerous connotations, eg handing over bank details, passwords etc. Before accepting a web page is real, always triple check the details
Here is the spoof
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-south-yorkshire-44208512
Here is a real BBC page
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-44271127
See the subtle differences. It’s no different from spoof twitter users. I think the /amp/ is also a throwback to how the bbc used to store its web pages.
Try https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/ you get a 404 error.
Type https://www.bbc.com/news/ it will redirect you to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
That’s not to say the story isn’t true. In fact, it most certainly is. But would the bbc really bring attention to another muslim paedo court case anyway? would they report something that is clearly anti-muslim?
The fact that leave.EU has fallen for it proves my point about checking the validity of a source.
ray
I just found this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-44208512
Looks ok?
I agree about checking sources.
Now that’s real. I stand corrected. Holy shit, the BBC are that bad!
Rotherham child sexual abuse claim ‘made up to boost EDL cause’ says the BBC
I think the BBC just needs to die! Can they stoop any lower? I notice the report is anonymous as usual.
Utterly disgraceful. Our national broadcaster undermining the credibility of the witness and by implication suggesting that there is no rape scandal, it’s all made up by the EDL. Even by BBC standards this is sickening. They should be utterly ashamed.
The BBC hate anything British or patriotic such as the English Defense League or UKIP.
In this case they have descended to a new low. I’d put in a complaint but the BBC would only respond with their standard “we made a balanced article where the reader could decide the facts”.
I`ve got my potatoes on as I write this.
Coming to a rolling boil, and I think that is what happening at the moment.
On the day an English patriot gets ghosted to jail-and lets hope nothing happens to him eh Sajiv? Theresa? Amber?
The BBC glory in Irish girls being able to kill more foetuses-and THAT is their news.
As I say, a rolling boil-I foresee rivers of jus this summer…
Noticing too that it`s been harder to get his sausages these last few weeks at Tescos.
Bet that`s Islam compliance coming, I sense that his booze runs will be getting harder to do for Qatar 2022.
Russia will be his last chance in a few weeks, I fear…are we still going after what they did in Salisbury-and, if so, why?
To keep Lineker in a job is it?
FYI BBC.com is a BBc official website usually for overseas
– https://www.newssniffer.co.uk is a tool for checking BBC edits
– as is https://twitter.com/bbc_diff
Both fail to see any edits to this story
From the article’s tweets.
Stitch up of massive proportions?
If that turns out to be true would it not be attempting to pervert the course of justice?
“It’s something they might have thought they could get away with”
paraphrased (c) BBC Editorial Guidelines.
Exactly. If the BBC with a global audience of millions can name the defendant mid-trial and put a slant on court proceedings which seems to demonstrate sympathy with the defence and undermine the witness, a child sex abuse case no less, how has TR erred so badly? It seems to be down to a technicality to do with precinct, for which his sentence seems harsh especially given that he clarified his physical position with the police at the time and they gave him the nod. Any half-decent lawyer could have wrestled with that, if his half-decent lawyer hadn’t been deceived to keep her from defending him. Starting to feel like a set-up.
Any news about Cliff Richard and Al Beeb ?
Wikipedia shamefully describes Tommy Robinson as “far right” as though it’s fact.
I suggest this alternative.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Free_speech
Free speech
Free speech is the right to express your opinions out loud, in public or private, in print, by mail, or online. It is essential to democracy, and along with the right to keep and bear arms is the greatest deterrent to tyranny. The United States is unique in protecting a full right of free political speech under the First Amendment.
Leftists are the biggest opponents of free speech, as they demand liberal censorship of views they do not like, especially Christian, patriot, conservative, or libertarian ones. Such views are often demonized in the liberal media with its media bias. Ironically, however, Leftists used free speech to orchestrate the French Revolution by publishing damaging lies against King Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette,[1] as well as ensure the promotion and domination of destructive ideologies such as Communism and Socialism during the Free Speech Movement of 1964. Generally, the Left only favors free speech when it is convenient to them, but they are quick to demand that anyone who simply disagrees with their views and opinions be stripped of the right to free speech and, in violation of the First Amendment, illegally try to do so through corrupt liberal public officials and leftist activists with the use of deceit (including false claims of “hate speech”[2]), threats, intimidation and criminal tactics.[3][4][5][6] In fact, federal law makes it illegal for anyone to conspire to suppress free speech or any other freedoms enjoyed by the public under the Constitution or federal law,[6] although leftists in the public sphere have gone out of their way to ignore such laws as not being convenient to their goals.
Free speech is threatened by “hate speech” codes favored by the Left which define certain types of statements as “hate crimes” (as defined by liberal politicians). While supposedly protecting vulnerable groups (such as “questioning gay teens”) from verbal abuse, rules and laws provide no clear distinction between “hurtful” speech and simply expressing one’s opinion. Religious people, accordingly, worry that hate crimes legislation in America will be used to stop preachers and others from saying out loud or in print that homosexuality is evil.
Not every form of expression is protected as free speech. For example, statements connected with unlawful conduct are typically illegal.
They have an entry concerning TR on the page under:
‘Examples of restrictions and/or censorship of free speech in the West’
Despite allowing Jihadists who had joined ISIS re-enter the country, in 2018, the United Kingdom banned several conservative activists from entering simply because of their views.[20]
Conservative journalist and activist Tommy Robinson was illegally arrested on May 26, 2018 for filming members of an alleged Islamic child grooming gang as they entered a court for trial, and the judge presiding over his case illegally ordered all details related to his arrest and trial, including his identity, to be banned from being published by the country’s media.[21] In response to the illegal actions of the police and the corrupt judge who sentenced Robinson, the politicians standing behind those actions and the liberal media complicitly covering for them by their refusal to report on both the trial and on Robinson’s illegal arrest, thousands of British citizens have begun protesting outside of British Prime Minister Theresa May’s residence at 10 Downing Street in London and outside the British Parliament to demand Robinson’s release.
Surely Wikipedia is an amalgam of contributors. So someone got there first.
Apologies for another tweet but this is important
It looks like private prosecutions are the way to go (funds permitting of course).
theisland,
Problem with private prosecutions is the fact that the ‘State’ can decided to take over the case at any point. Aka. ‘bin it’ or re-engineer it……………..
An interesting piece in this morning’s Mail on Sunday in which Peter Hitchens introduces a different perspective to the recent controversy over the claims of alleged bullying by Speaker Bercow. Unfortunately I am not technically competent to provide a link to the piece.
I am no particular fan of Mr Bercow, considering him achingly politically correct (recall his appalling words over the proposed visit of President Trump) and undoubtedly possessed of an annoyingly bumptious personality.
Hitchens points out, however, that he has been one of the few Speakers of modern times who has made great efforts to bring power and influence back to the House of Commons and to hold an over-mighty Executive to account. These efforts have met with at least modest success and Secretaries of State have been required to attend the House and explain decisions and answer difficult questions in ways that other Speakers have not been so rigorous about.
What has this to do with BBC bias? Only that for several evenings Newsnight’s Policy Editor Chris Cook ran a number of interviews with people who had been subjected to alleged bullying, shouting and so forth by Mr Speaker, even including a former Black Rod; but at no point in Mr Cook’s reports was anything said about any aspects of Mr Speaker’s work which reflected anything positive about his role in returning the House of Commons to the primacy in British political life which it should enjoy and as it should have done since Speaker Lenthall.
It seems to me that this is, once again, bias by omission on the part of the BBC: something of which it is guilty all too often.
Skeldings
I hope this helps
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5775753/PETER-HITCHENS-Bercows-greatest-crime-leaders-tell-truth.html
No expert on abortion, or really any firm opinion on it, no experience of it.
But given the BBC’s reaction to the vote in Ireland, I now automatically assume their position is the wrong one.
If I’d had a vote I probably would have voted Yes.
Because my automatic reaction is also to assume that the BBC’s position must be wrong, I find myself disappointed at the result.
Five decades after Enoch Powell’s ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech the Great and the Good [self-professed] still want to no-platform him. The BBC received their wrath when it aired the speech recently but naturally did so in a way that was just another form of ‘no-platforming’, the programme being a hatchet job designed to deconstruct, destroy and ridicule Powell’s claims.
The irony is of course, that Powell was absolutely right in his predictions and the prospect of race wars breaking out in Britain and rivers flowing with blood is exactly why the BBC et al want to silence such voices…they fear the very thing they so furiousy tell us will never happen because we are so marvellously mulitcultural and we get along so famously well. We know that is not true. This is the BBC that constantly warns us of the dangers of the Far-Right on the march again and yet it is allowed to use such language and make such dire predicitons whilst Powell and those who follow him are not.
Tommy Robinson is the latest to be treated in the same way as they attempt to silence the voice that fearlessly and truthfully predicts a Britain at war. He’s not alone in that prediction of course…Trevor Phillips was talking along similar lines as he spoke of the dangerous and increasing segregation of communities. John Ware in Standpoint says that it is not just the violence from Islamic terrorism that is the problem it is the culture and the war against British culture by Muslims who wish to Islamise Britain…
‘Apprehension about the long-term impact of a large and expanding politicised faith that seems intent on integrating on its own terms seems entirely logical. A culture war is far more dangerous to the cohesive health of this country than occasional attempts at mass murder, although not of course for those killed or injured. And the problem is that it is becoming almost impossible to reconcile our differences in civilised public debate. ‘
The Telegraph tells us of the truth about the Establishment response…
‘People in MI5 tell me that denying the connection between Islamism and terrorism derives from the belief that if you accept it, there’s no hope for a multicultural society in Britain: we would just have to recognise that part of the population is permanently liable to become terrorists.’
And yet it is Tommy Robinson in prison again…ostensibly for contempt of court though the police originally arrested him for breach of the peace and incitement on the video. Supposedly there is a ban on reporting even that Robinson has been arrested and yet the Independent, Evening Standard and the Metro have all reported the arrest…in a limited fashion. And the Hull Daily Mail reports Tommy Robinson supporters say he is in ‘grave danger’ in Hull Prison
Tommy was skating on thin ice and he admitted that in the video…he was already restricted as to his behaviour due to a previous contempt of court conviction and he knew there were reporting restrictions on the case he was reporting on this time….more Muslims being tried for sexual abuse. He also knew that the police were just looking for an excuse to nick him…and almost whatever he said would be enough for that to happen…just appearing at the court may well have been enough. The police claimed that he was being arrested for the content of his live-stream and yet if you look at it it is filled with talk of historic cases and questions about why the police and media stood by, and often proactively covered up, as sexual abuse was carried out by Muslim perpetrators.
I’m sure a good barrister could tear the case against Tommy to pieces but his own solicitor wasn’t given the chance as the police lied to her telling her that Robinson was about to be released when in fact he was being fast-tracked into prison and thus she didn’t go up to deal with the issue leaving him essentially on his own…’defended’ by a court provided solicitor.
The police are highly politicised and are acting as the government’s personal censors silencing voices the government doesn’t want you to hear…and we know the government was actively targeting the EDL and Robinson…one method by channelling funds to Hate Not Hope who are alleged to have been directing UAF thugs to locations where the EDL were in order to start fights for the cameras. Funnily it is claimed Hope Not Hate have been caught doing the same thing for other Far-Left extremist groups such as Antifa [a terrorist group]…
‘Far-left group HOPE not Hate (HnH) have been identified in a new research paper on far-left extremist violence alongside Antifa and other violent groups by the Swedish Defence Research Agency (FOI) for their “infiltration and research” of political opponents.’
FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks….
‘Confidential documents call the anarchists that seek to counter white supremacists ‘domestic terrorists.’’
Hmmmm…maybe Trump was right when he said there were bad people on both sides.
Here’s the evidence that shows the government targeting the EDL…
‘Home office
James Brokenshire MP
PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARY FOR CRIME AND SECURITY
2 Marsham Street, London SWlP 4DF
CTS Reference: M1919811 1 2 1 NOV 2011
Thank you for your letter of 31 October informing the Home Secretary that the
Council of lmams and Rabbis of the Joseph lnterfaith Foundation has sought to
dispel the false perception that the Jewish Community supports the English
Defence League (EDL). I am responding as the Home Office Minister
responsible for policy in this area.
Although community cohesion is primarily the responsibility of the Department for
Communities and Local Government your letter has been noted at the Home
Office. We welcome your positive action to counter the divisive influence and
minimise the impact of EDL activity.
As a Government our position is clear, we will not tolerate groups like the EDL
who spread hate, seek to divide us and deliberately raise community fears and
tensions.
We will:
Speak out and condemn their views and actions where appropriate;
Continue to develop an effective public order policing response;
Engage with local areas to support local action to tackle the EDL;
And develop our knowledge base so that we better understand the drivers of
EDL support and can develop successful approaches to deal with the
problem.
Local agencies know their communities best and we trust them to put in place
suitable local measures to counter the influence and minimise the impact of EDL
activity. We stand ready to provide advice and support where it is requested.
Signed James Brokenshire’
John Ware finished his piece on the culture war by saying this….
‘All of these women — Spielman and Khan included — have lost their fear. And this is the game-changer in the ceaseless battle for the soul of British Islam. “You don’t scare us any more,” they are saying. It’s time more politicians and others in public life manned up — and followed their example. ‘
Yep, about time the police and politicians and media ‘manned up’ and instead of locking up people trying to fight a barbaric, backward and violent Islamist surge perhaps they could deal with the real threat to British, Western, society, culture, values and beliefs.
Two thousand years of long hard, bloody struggle to attain the society we have today is being thrown away by people too cowardly to stand up for everything they claim they believe in.
‘I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,’ wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, ‘and I wonder why I ever tried.’
Charles Moore:
Nothing has changed in 25 years to ease my concerns about Islam
It seemed to me that most Muslim leaders saw their role not in integrating Muslims in Britain, but in asserting difference and increasing their muscle. Many favoured sharia law trumping British law. They would not support Muslim membership of the Armed Forces if those forces were deployed against Muslim countries. They wanted it to be illegal to attack Islam, let alone denigrate its prophet; and they waged constant “lawfare” to try to silence their critics. They tended, I thought, to see the advance of their cause as a zero-sum game in which the authorities had to cede more ground (sometimes it is literally a matter of territory) to Muslims.
Boris Johnson:
To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia – fear of Islam – seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke. Judged purely on its scripture – to say nothing of what is preached in the mosques – it is the most viciously sectarian of all religions in its heartlessness towards unbelievers. As the killer of Theo Van Gogh told his victim’s mother this week in a Dutch courtroom, he could not care for her, could not sympathise, because she was not a Muslim.
The trouble with this disgusting arrogance and condescension is that it is widely supported in Koranic texts, and we look in vain for the enlightened Islamic teachers and preachers who will begin the process of reform. What is going on in these mosques and madrasas? When is someone going to get 18th century on Islam’s medieval ass?
It is time that we started to insist that the Muslim Council of Great Britain, and all the preachers in all the mosques, extremist or moderate, began to acculturate themselves more closely to what we think of as British values. We can’t force it on them, but we should begin to demand change in a way that is both friendly and outspoken.
Pug,
“The police are highly politicised and are acting as the government’s personal THUGS silencing voices…..”. Correction.
Thatcher was the first to weaponise the police.
Their use in the miners strike politicised the police, and gave Blairs sinister fellow travellers their rights to game the constitional separation of powers that once existed.
This casual hybridasation of executive and judiciary began with Thatchers era, all Blair did was follow her example. But he also added the European Directives and Regulations of 1998 to this bastard child of liberal tories and clueless conservatism. The Left should have been snuffed out whilst we had the chance, trouble is and was that culture is upstream of politics and governance. And the Tories failed to care what was going on in the culture since 1971 or so.
Our retiring public sector goons are all paid to spout Gramsci and Alinksy, and they`re now retiring, having done what they set out to do. And we get Jeremy Hunt and Anna Soubry FFS.
We need to scare the elite to our causes, just as Islam has done. If they can take Tommy Robinson and ghost him to a potential death sentence without the media-then we`ll have to make the news for ourselves, won`t we?
Or else-what chance do we have against Islam? Even the few that are here already.
Scargill was clearly trying to bring down the government so I have some sympathy with Thatchers use of the police. But using the police to illegally detain and a compliant judiciary to imprison an activist pointing out the dangers of Islam is entirely different. Robinson isn’t trying to subvert democracy, it’s the government and the wider state that is doing this by trying to make it impossible for anyone to oppose the Muslim takeover of Britain. Do our rulers not see that they are in time going to destroy themselves too? Their writ will eventually only run in pockets of territory that are not Muslim dominated.
One wondred how long it would take someone to blame Thatcher.
Curious table from our friends in the EU:
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Current_healthcare_expenditure,_2015_FP18a.png
As a percentage of GDP the UK spends 9.9% on health care, more than countries such as Spain, Italy and Portugal. We are slightly behind the expenditure of France and Germany, both at 11%.
But here is the intriguing point: Comparing Euros spent per inhabitant, the UK figure of 3913 is higher than France and just slightly lower than Germany at 4140.
Now Germany and France have health systems that work perfectly. So why doesn’t the NHS? What is the one difference between the state run UK system and the professionally run European systems?
I wonder what proportion of “managers”, bean counters, seat polishers, zampolits, et al, exist in the world class NHS, compared to health services in other countries?
Exactly. Over half the expenditure in NHS is spent outside of hospitals and patient care, according to Scapegoated Capitalism by ben irvin
And three years ago, the NHS was setting aside a quarter of its budget for negligence and compensation claims. Do you think it might have fallen in the last three years?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11402075/NHS-sets-aside-quarter-of-its-budget-for-medical-negligence-claims.html
And how much is spent on these places?
From five years ago this time!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22609415
Aaahh, the benefits of diversity!
Scribble,
There is often a flaw in these health care comparisons, a flaw which makes the NHS appear more efficient than it really is. Because France and Germany have quasi private providers of health care they have to pay local taxes on their buildings and of course insurance etc etc. but the NHS doesnt. If it did have to pay these charges then UK spending would increase appreciably and further narrow the spending gap between Uk and France and Germany. Of course the gap in quality of care would remain.
Sooner or later a government is going to have admit that the problem isn’t primarily money, but the inefficiency of the nhs as a health service deliverer. What other service where markets clearly work is delivered by a public sector monopoly and why do other countries not use the nhs model?