Weekend Open Thread


‘Any Questions’ fielded the editor of the online ‘news site’ The Canary Kerry-Anne Mendoza without telling us it is essentially a mouthpiece for Corbyn…not a ‘news site’ at all is it?,  good of the BBC to give it a platform…though maybe not as what we got was childish, ignorant, partisan nonsense from the editor…a bit of insight into what you could expect from The Canary itself?

Interesting to hear Dimbleby describe the audience as ‘self-selecting’…always thought they were carefully and rigorously vetted and selected for impartiality and to provide a good balance that represented the full spectrum of political viewpoints from across the country….Dimbleby also suggested that most of the audience would like to eat less meat….is that because he ran a poll or because he knows most of them are lefty sandal-wearing veggies?  The latter I suspect.

Any instances of the BBC ‘self-selecting’ the news that suits it….list it all here….

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  1. Eddy Booth says:

    Florida university bridge collapses leaving ‘several fatalities’

    Non of the news media asks the bleeding obvious question- how was the bridge supposed to stay up , without the suspension cables to hold it ? most don’t even bother showing the finished look



    how it would have looked




    • Pounce says:

      In the UK, we would be hearing:
      ” We apologise for any injuries that were caused by this bridge fall, and Lessons will be learnt”


    • JimS says:

      Very strange. It looks like the river crossing span was still to be erected. As a pedestrian bridge I would expect it to be relatively lightly loaded so its dead weight to fully loaded weight ratio ratio must be near unity, so if it needs stays to hold it up loaded it would need them in the unloaded state too.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m guessing some one was on a bonus to get the thing open . Does look like it needs those suspension bridge things . Brunel must be spinning in his box


  2. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    On the BBC Tennis homepage there are currently no less than NINE separate articles related to Serena Williams.

    I have noted for a long time now that the BBC showcases and promotes certain sporting individuals while denigrating and hating on others.

    The list of biases and prejudices displayed by the BBC is deep rooted and widespread.


  3. MarkyMark says:

    Is this speech comparable with EU demands as part of the EU Referendum exit? …

    “He is really the first tax martyr. (878 AD) He was called upon to pay the Danegeld, and he took £48,000 to the Danes, then at Greenwich, and handed it over. They said, “Mr Alphege, we would like some more, and if you don’t give us more, we are going to hold on to you as a hostage.” And Alphege replied: “I will not give you more; I will not put higher taxes on my people; I will not have them suffer this imposition.” So they threw ox bones at Alphege until he died. I hope that people will not find it necessary to throw ox bones at me, but as another representative from North East Somerset, I will stand constantly for low taxation.” – Jacob Rees-Mogg /North East Somerset / Con {youtube}

    {Full text to speech – Parliament home page – Jacob Rees-Mogg – jun 2010}


  4. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    I have been really surprised that Theresa May has not welcomed the use of a Russian Nerve Agent in the latest attempt to bump off a Russian born individual given asylum in the UK.

    Surely it represents yet another example of the success of multiculturalist policies that has been forced onto the indigenous English population by our political establishment.

    We can add these nerve agents to the acid attacks, the knife attacks, the suicide bombings, and the industrial scale rape of poor white English girls.

    Hip Hip Hooray to Multiculturalism – the British political establishment should order themselves another pay rise.


  5. popeye says:

    Just been watching BBC4 (often some very good programmes) about Ruth Ellis. Commenting on her losing her final appeal I noted the reporter stating that the appeal was refused by “the Conservative Home Secretary”. Now I’m sure that there must be an artistic reason for stating that the Home Secretary was a Conservative who finally condemned the (guilty) woman to death but I can’t help thinking that the editorial decision was political.


    • JimS says:

      I see the trailer had a picture of a classic ‘cowboy’ noose. The UK used a simple grommet so if they can’t get that right what hope is there?

      Hanging was one of those things that we were quite good at, unlike the Americans, who ripped heads off or let the prisoner choke for many minutes.

      As an individualist I find execution immoral, the responsibility is passed on to someone else. We seem to be moving towards collectivist totaliterianism so it won’t be long before the executions begin again.


  6. JimS says:

    Jordan Peterson in one of his Australian interviews makes the comment that one of the important characteristics of Western democracies is trust.

    It is trust that enables commerce to flourish, the London insurance market was founded on “My word is my bond” for instance.

    Trust isn’t natural, it isn’t a ‘universal’ value, it is cultural and fragile.

    In Britain we used to trust our police. In 1829 they were told:

    “To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.”

    Now the police don’t trust us, they dress like paramilitaries in their stab vests and in London drive around like ill-disciplined gun-totting thugs. They hide away in bunkers, (Where are the police stations? Have you ever tried getting in one recently?)

    Our journalists don’t trust us. They hide stories that might upset us. When they can hide a story no longer they are selective with what they reveal.

    Our politicians don’t trust us, we might not vote the way they want. That is why they love the EU, a cosy little meeting in Europe of like minds and the Commission will just slip in new legislation into a 2,000 page document that no-one reads. Don’t like it? Well just persuade a majority of 28 countries’ leaders to vote it down! (Pretty hard, remember that cosy little meeting!).

    If the Police, journalists and politicians don’t trust us why should we trust them?

    If we don’t have trust we have lost our civilsation.


  7. StewGreen says:

    Times : YouTube has a new magic way to guard against FakeNews videos
    ..When it detects a contentious topic ..links will be added next to it to Wikipedia articles which will put you right
    (cos as we all know Wikip articles are written by honest and logical people, not zealots with an agenda /sarc)

    Magic solar panel
    Chinese have invented a panel that can harvest the kinetic energy from raindrops
    ..yeh right

    Immigration issues
    Sarah Woolaston MP says it is outrageous that although patient records are private, when a foreign person comes in, their address records are shared with the immigration dept for cross checking
    I don’t see a problem with this ..it’s only like the way when you claim for free dental treatment cos you are on benefit, they check with the Social Security computer.

    A young biologist a few years ago was feted by Silicon Valley journos and BBC for her bloodtest on a chip corp
    ..except she’d faked progress reports etc.
    So now it’s being called a $700m fraud
    2 new BBC stories
    “Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes charged with $700m fraud”
    “Bad blood: The rise and fall of Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes”
    On Wednesday the illusion finally shattered as she lost control of the firm and was fined $500,000.

    a previous BBC report
    14 Aug 2014 “The 30-year-old health sector billionaire”


  8. StewGreen says:

    LA’s Old Master architect Richard Meier steps down after sex harassment claims”
    turns out he’s been a sleazebag all along
    ..he’d try to proposition grope young female employees etc.

    Incredibly they always failed to report stuff cos they thought it bad for their career.

    Jesus last year when on the Radio4 FB discussion I pointed out that complainants have a moral duty to always report such sleeze to protect future victims ..6 “so called femininsts” ganged up and screamed at me so much I had to close the discussion down.


  9. StewGreen says:

    Enrichers bring innovation
    “Yeh why don’t we make a scheme to order guns and bullets over the internet from the US”
    Shajee Buhary (23) Addai-Brmpah (23) , Matthew Sidhu (23)
    I’m guessing origins of one Muslim, one African, one Sikh
    Listed as students but surely most students graduate at 21 ?
    “These types of offences attract a minimum term of custody of 5 years.
    The sentence you receive will exceed that figure.”
    Muslim organised ?
    Prosecutor “We say Buhary was the main organiser, and it is clear he was working with a serious criminal who was in prison at the time,”


  10. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    RT guy in QT tonight utter class.
    A diamond in a sea of shite.


    • ID says:

      Afghani Rattsarse?? A diamond?
      I remember that cunt on Mad Mullah TV. Press TV also provided a platform for Sheikh George Al Galloway to play the imam.

      Salamis I lick em, George,
      I lIck em salamIs, Mohammed
      God willing, may the Great Satan be destroyed, George
      Inshallahbinshalahbum, Muhammed and the Little Satan
      Mashallahwashallah, George,
      ad infinitum

      Is George still on RT with his Sputnik. “Fellow travelker” good title for George’s dilations.

      So does RT think it was the Jews wot done it in Salisbury?


      • Al Shubtill says:

        RT has done some excellent reports about the activities of Muslim rape gangs in UK and the real segregation that exists in our towns and cities, neither of which have been similarly covered by al Beebus or made them popular with HMG; which has been seeking an opportunity to shut them down here and may have just been offered one with the recent Salisbury unpleasantness.

        A benefit of that action might be that al Beebus could be slung out of Russia, along with plenty of other British MSM.


        • ID says:

          I detest the BBC as much as you do, but to believe that RT is the supreme font of truth because it is not the BBC is like believing Hitlerite propaganda was true because it was not Stalinist propaganda and vice versa.


          • Al Shubtill says:

            Please direct me to the bit of my post where how I described RT could be construed as my believing it to be: “the supreme font of truth”.


  11. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    RT guy in QT tonight utter class.
    A diamond in a sea of shite.


  12. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    I feel I must apologise for Brian Penis on QT tonight. People in Dundee are not like this fucking hypocrite and the sooner he gets back on a plane and fucks off to suffer under President Trump the better. I would add that perhaps the USA would bin this withered old arsehole and refuse him a visa for his C-list film supporting roles, but that would mean we would see more of him on the BBC singing the Sturgeon gospel, so sadly our loss is America’s gain. Just a shite.


    • Al Shubtill says:

      Doesn’t “Sir” Keir Starmer have a wonderfully mellifluous voice, rather like Zippy off Rainbow.


      • vesnadog says:

        Nowhere near as bad as the weasel voice of “Vince-sell-off-royal-mail-so-I-can-buy-shares-in-it-for-my-retirement-Cable!”

        He should have been in Charles Dickens’s movie about “a dirty old man and his treatment of the poor”


  13. wronged says:

    Brian Penis was very rude to someone in the audience who dared to mention that the Salisbury incident was a smokescreen in order to associate our need of Europe.
    Why get so angry? Why shout?

    Brian Penis wants independence away from UK where the Scots have a political voice to the EU where they will have no political voice. What a Cox Brian Penis is.

    We eat Dundee marmalade on toast every morning. I’m not sure if that is relevant! I wanted to assure you that there are some good things that come from Dundee. My wife likes the cake.

    I think you’ll find that Brian Penis spends most his time living in USA. Yet another hypocrite.


    • DongleDong says:

      The anger was an act and not a very good one at that. He did no more than make himself look a bigoted, hypocritical old fool.


      • Al Shubtill says:

        None of these SNPers ever get it do they?

        You can’t gob off about wanting Scotland to remain a member state of the EU because of all the benefits it brings: solidarity; unity; trade; shared values etc.

        THEN say the exact opposite of Scotland being a member nation within the UK.

        THEN expect you’re going to be taken seriously afterwards.

        Brian found that out, to his expense, tonight once that chap in the audience exposed his hypocritical bulls***ery.


    • Banania says:

      There used to be a shop in Dundee called the “Land o’ Cakes”.


  14. wronged says:

    Topman urged to withdraw shirt after Hillsborough anger

    ‘What goes around comes around’ Reference to Hillsboro and Heysel.

    In my opinion it is in bad taste and should be withdrawn.

    The people of Liverpool seem to refuse to acknowledge or discuss their appalling supporters who prior to Hillsboro violently attacked the supporters of Juventus and killed 39 of them.

    Mention Heysel to Liverpool people and they immediately talk about Hillsboro. If you talk to them by introducing Hillsboro they will not talk about Heysel. Just an observation drawn from personal experience.


  15. taffman says:

    Hate speach ? The PC Brigade at its best .
    “Labour councillor admits Islamaphobic slur about Humza Yousaf”


    • chrisH says:

      Who cares?
      The Hillsborough confection might keep a load of scouse lawyers in payments. But the rest of us have long walked away. Don`t doubt that the cover up and deceits was wrong, but I`m still to get an account of why so many pissed Scousers got off with pushing their way down the terraces without tickets. More greenhorn panic and incompetence versus malice-but which one does the Scousey Left want as historys “final verdict”? As if!


      • Fedup2 says:

        Dey do do the victim thing well don’t dey?

        ( psss don’t mention Heisel stadium )


        • ID says:

          I was in Germany at the time of Heysel. The Germany media was asking deep questions about “the malaise at the centre of English society”, travel bans for England until we learned to behave and so on. How different from the “few bad apples” approach to islam nowadays. I was even subjected to a few instances of “everyday anglophobia”. A spike in “hate speech” that no one noticed.


    • Terminal Moraine says:

      @ taffman

      Ridiculous. And how surprising that Mr Yousaf — “I have to say I have not felt that level of anger before” — does not accept an apology and is calling for his expulsion from the party. That hardline refusal couldn’t be an *ahem* cultural issue, could it?

      The sheer wordcount the BBC give to covering this non-hateful remark is astounding. Especially when you consider how few words are ever given to genuine acts of hate and terror.

      In other ‘news’, Katy Perry kissed a guy who was auditioning for American Idol. Apparently it was his first kiss. The BBC makes sure to clarify that “he does not think Perry sexually harassed him.”

      I didn’t think anything could match the Guardian, but reading the BBC these days is like being continually chastised by a dimwitted Victorian aunt.


  16. wronged says:

    ‘The driver who filmed ex-Liverpool and England defender Jamie Carragher spitting at his car will be forced to attend a driver improvement course, according to Greater Manchester Police. Andy Hughes, 42, will attend the session while Carragher, who’s been investigated over the incident, will face no police action.’

    Typical British injustice.
    One law for the rich millionaires who physically spit (assault) in a 14 year old child’s face (who said nothing to warrant such action) and another for the rest of us.


    • chrisH says:

      I`m a Man U nut.
      But do smell one big rat here.
      Sesne that Carragher was set up, heaven knows what abuse he`d had leading up to the spitting.
      The edits seemed to be a set up.May be wrong, but the jokey United fan hardly sounds like most United fans to me.
      May be wrong, but I have a respect for Scholes, Terry, Adams and Carragher. And the brouhaha over Carragher seemed wierd to me!


  17. taffman says:

    This chap is in charge of Wales !!!………….
    “Corbyn unfairly maligned on spy attack, says Carwyn Jones”


  18. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    It looks like this Telford story might just explode and the BBC are now trying to get themselves in control of the narrative.

    On the BBC news homepage they have a strange headline: “It’s not the responsibility of a child to stay safe“, and the image that goes with it is of a woman, with dyed hair, holding a cigarette in one hand, and a bottle of booze in the other, in shadow and slightly blurred, looking like a down and out slag (I wonder what impression the BBC are trying to make?)

    It is not clear what the article is about, but when you click on the headline it takes you to the Telford Story. I haven’t yet read it, but I have printed it to file for later analysis.

    The article is dated 16th March 2018 and it was posted 3 hours ago, so sometime in the early hours of the morning. Let’s see what happens to it (how quickly it is removed).


    • ThomasR says:

      It would appear that in this case we are being asked to reconsider our definition of “child” in the light of the image that is presented.

      That’s odd, the definition of a “child” in Calais must be rigidly adhered to, any male under 33 years of age…….


    • Guest Who says:

      Even as one used to BBC shenanigans, that is quite disgraceful.

      They have isolated one section of a quote, used almost at the end of a long screed (including mea culpas tucked away), and propelled this to the home page with zero context.

      I am also bemused by the photographic treatment used. The imagery is mostly older women colourised one presumes to be ‘representative’ and not factual.

      They will not come out of this latest spin cycle untainted.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Read the article You got to hand it to some of these paki men – banging up a girl from the age on 11 to 16 so she got pregnant twice is pretty good going . More little mo s.

      I could but wander where any authority was – nhs, gp, school, local council , social services – charities – save the children , Barnardo s, and then the party’s families . I’m sure the girl had no parent ( that wonderfully described “ chaotic lifestyle” – also known as ‘fuckedup’).

      Definitely a case of institutional this and institutional that .
      But once a society turns a blind eye to underage sex then adult vermin such as this paki peasant are bound to take advantage – it’s cultural – after all.


      • Kaiser says:

        before I became a martial arts instructor we had to take mandatory child safety courses (run by ex-plod) and be CRB checked

        to hire a council room we had to CRB checked

        on the course it was given to us explicitly in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS what our responsibilities were

        we were told if we had even the slightest suspicions AT ALL that a child was being in ANYWAY abused, we should call an ambulance and the police

        If a parent was late to pick up their child, the child stayed with us until one arrived

        if any of this caused arguments or grief with the parents so be it the club and association would stand behind us.

        parents were made aware of club policy and that this was for the protection of all the children at the club

        It would seem that the public service operate to much lower standards than was expected of enthusiastic amateurs.


        • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

          Hi Kaiser, thanks for that – you make a highly relevant point – all this has been allowed to happen even while legislation had been introduced to supposedly check all people that are coming into contact with children in schools and elsewhere.

          We have to take into account the key role of local councils, the police, and the mainstream media in allowing this to happen – predominantly gangs of British Pakistani Muslim Men as well as Pakistani Muslim Men raping, abusing and enslaving predominantly poor English white girls (“kafirs”) – all in support of so-called multiculturalism. It’s the sort of thing that is happening in Africa and elsewhere by Islamic insurgents.

          I hear the situation is in fact far worse with English white girls originally in the care system having been trafficked abroad as sex slaves in a regular outward flow over the past thirty years.


    • theisland says:

      Yes, they are claiming ignorance.

      ” … And the media UNWITTINGLY [my caps] helped to obscure the scale of the abuse, referring to children as the “girlfriends” of adult men. When in 2001, Lucy Lowe was murdered in Telford – along with her mother and sister – by the 26-year-old man who had groomed and abused her, news outlets – including the BBC – described the adult killer as Lucy’s “boyfriend”.

      bBBC – they seem to be ‘unwittingly’ ignorant about most things. At best not fit for purpose, at worst complicit.


      • Guest Who says:

        The bbc are often quite witting when outrage is on the cards.

        This is my fave response to this media trend:


        • JimS says:

          Wouldn’t it be easier to just close the station down?

          Telford, Shropshire? Never heard of it mate!


    • StewGreen says:

      Caliphate : Child sexual exploitation: How the system failed
      By Bethan Bell BBC News 16 March 2018

      That is the current title of the BBC page

      Almost 7 full days since the Mirror broke the story
      A story withheld by BBC for 2 full days whilst the topic dominated places like here and Mumsnet

      The BBC on Wednesday jumped straight to promoting
      “Love a Muslim Day”

      Today on LBC I did hear imam roundly condemning these crimes of ethnic Pakistani men.


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Comrade Corbyn is carrying out the Russian disinformation strategy as ordered by Moscow centre . Comrade McDonald will keep him in line . The British have forgotten about corbyns contact with soviet spies .
    We know that Corbyn can say anything he wants and the drone kids will still support him. There is a need for Russia to invest more in fixing the next UK election so that comrade Corbyn can get the keys to the nuclear subs and get UK out of NATO.
    Russia has instructed al Beeb to go easy usual on comrade Corbyn . So far al Beeb is obedient comrades .

    As an aside – the welsh windbags’ ambitious son ( do better than daddy) called for the World Cup to be moved to 2019 and a different country . He knows that won’t happen but makes him look good . He must thing we are so dumb .typical ReichEU funded politician


  20. Fedup2 says:

    London crime update

    Another one for the lefty mayor and lefty police

    20 year old shot dead in east London last night ( not that far from where fedup lives ) and …

    19 year old stabbed to death in Chadwell Heath . That’s a total dead for the first 5 days of the week to 4 .

    Yesterday the air ambulance “ proudly” stated it turned out for more stabbings than road accidents in 2017. It was about 550 stabbings out of 1700 call outs . 2018 looks like being an even busier year .
    Wonder if they’ll have to go to more nerve agent call outs ?


  21. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Cairo offices may shut down because the BBC printed some bad press about Egypt. Seems BBC are about to see the realities of freedom of speech and thought – which they are exempt from in the UK because everyone is forced to pay them under threat of prison.


    “The court case (Egypt/Cairo) follows a report published by the BBC that details the state’s use of torture, forced disappearances and sexual violence against Egypt’s political opposition.” {alaraby.co.uk 13mar2018}


    • JimS says:

      First they came for Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer but the BBC didn’t speak up because they were Islamophobic.

      Then they came for Lauren Southern but the BBC didn’t speak up because she was right-wing.

      Then they came for the BBC.
      Who the hell cared? The BBC hadn’t cared about anyone else.


  22. Guest Who says:

    ‘It’s Friday, it’s 8:18, and it’s… a cracker, Jack’.


    • thirdoption says:

      Excellent Marky


      • Scroblene says:

        So can someone explain to a confused Scrobs, what happens in a few years, when someone who has ‘changed sex’,wants to start up with another who has partially changed?

        What will the term be for someone who is only a quarter – or an eighth a male/female,or half and half?

        Can they have interchangeable parts which may or may not work?

        And if there are any offspring, what are they called?

        I’m clearly getting too old these days, but wait, I could live longer if I decide to become a female? I bet Senora Charismatica Roberta O’Blene might have something to say about that…


  23. Guest Who says:

    Seems Treezer put the Britain First guy in a prison to be taught a lesson by Muslim inmates.

    If this were the other way around, I would suggest she, Shami and the national disgrace would be more vocal in condemnation.


  24. StewGreen says:

    A day on the BBC is a set of SJW stepping stones.
    8:25am Liz Green in Radio Leeds is gushing about Sue Ryder Yorkshire *Women* of Achievement Awards
    8:35am R4Today *Women* jockeys
    8:45 Radio Humberside , “the *Mum’s army*”

    Are there any awards that are just for men, these days (outside sport) ?


  25. Up2snuff says:

    Did I really hear Mishal Husain introduce an item and say “it is ten days since the Salisbury poisoning” on TODAY this morning?

    If so, not only do the BBC not do mental arithmetic, they are also no good at counting on their fingers.


    • Fedup2 says:

      And I thought I heard her ask why arnt there more lady horses in the gold cup – humour on al Beeb – a commodity as rare as a nerve agent


    • Scroblene says:

      ‘they are also no good at counting on their fingers’.

      She might have had her hands in her pockets…

      (Oh that can’t be true, she’s not a bloke is she).


  26. MartinW says:

    I feel really enlightened after the long piece on the Today programme where two nice boys lispingly explained the design of ballet costumes, lycra and all. (sarc off). Thank goodness for some wise words from Peter Hitchens later.


    • DavidW says:

      Ah, a ballet joke.



    • Up2snuff says:

      The TODAY programme has itself become a complete joke. Nick Robinson seemed to be taking some subtle digs at the ballet designers, to which they were, apparently, oblivious. Think he might have had the Editor in Chief in mind as well.

      It is time for the DG to suggest to Sarah Sands that it is not working out and she should look for her next career move.


  27. G.W.F. says:

    Nothing in the BBC yet but Britain First man beaten by perfect people in prison.
    This was so predictable, and he can expect more beatings.
    Warning to anyone who criticises pedophiles among the perfect people.
    Treezer daughter of an alleged pedophile will see that your safety will be compromised.



  28. G.W.F. says:

    Here is the interview with Tommy Robinson which was the reason for banning the US commentator from entering Britain.

    Make no mistake. Robinson is in danger, and the British public, so indoctrinated by the BBC won’t give a wank. His only hope, is support from the international community.

    Hear that Trump.

    Britain’s descent into an authoriatarian state is accelerating. Conservative supporters may wish to reconsider the argument that voting Conservative is the least worse option. Treezer and her cowardly MPs have crossed the line.


    • theisland says:

      I posted this a few pages back (page 4) – but it was late at night and nobody noticed.
      I’m guessing Donald will see this and hopefully realise how bad things are here.
      (And not believe everything his chum Piers Morgan tells him).


    • Fedup2 says:

      I agree on the real danger to this man. I’m sure if msm decided on an obit in the event of the worst happening it would be a litany of negative to drown out the point he tries to make .
      The stress must really take its toll and although I do not follow what he says in detail I believe he has the right to free speech . I ll listen to the speech here later so thanks for posting it .


  29. MarkyMark says:

    Stupid still happens …


    6 Small Math Errors That Caused Huge Disasters


    • Fedup2 says:

      Marky ,
      In a previous life I used to plan events and stuff and try to idiot proof them. Can be tricky but doable . The problem tended to be group think…a huge issue for al Beeb.


  30. MarkyMark says:

    Maybe the UK’s MP for Loneliness can help these people … May and Merkel sitting in an office ….




  31. Guest Who says:

    BBC Newsbeat

    Tracy Beaker is returning – except now she’s an adult trying to bring up a child on her own.

    Newsbeat’s been speaking to two women who, like Tracy, grew up in care and are now single mums.


    Does the bbc know any other kind of parental unit?


    • JimS says:

      Two transgender lesbians who used the services of a surrogate mother and a donated egg? The new normal.

      Many a child in the ‘olden days’ said, “I didn’t ask to be born!”. The latent anger of these victims of vanity doesn’t bear thinking about.


  32. MarkyMark says:

    Will Sadiq Khan (UK’s morality police leader and Hate Crime specialist) have a word with Guardian’s Owen Jones … carnival of rage ….


    Oh, when Stormzy sang “We should burn your (Theresa May) house down and see if you can manage this” and everyone in the audience clapped … were the audience, including the host Jack Whitehall, all agreeing with what Stormzy said and they want to join in on the act (we) … is this inciting violence?


    • vlad says:

      Slimy turd.


    • taffman says:

      Perhaps this little chappie should point his venom and hatred in the direction of Telford ?


    • G.W.F. says:

      Trump is not coming. They will detain him, hold him for three dsys, ask if he wants to run over moslems in his car and accuse him of tweeting vids from Britain First which upset Treezer and all of our politicians.


  33. AsISeeIt says:

    I was pondering Sir Vince Cable’s comments the other day where he criticised the motives of millions of voters who disagreed with him specifically on the issue of Britain’s future continuing membership of a European Political Union.
    He seems to have set out to align himself with Hilary Clinton and her branding of those Americans who preferred her not be to their President (a position to which she felt entitled) as a basket of deplorables. Closer to home, David Cameron labelled UKIP supporters as fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists.
    Obviously from time immemorial the elite have looked down their long noses at the grubby peasants. What was use of the smelly plebs other than as tax-fodder?
    One might have thought the democratic age would have put a curb on such elite contempt for the masses. (NB. I know Peter Mandelson among others thinks he’s now living in a Post-Democratic Age).
    And then there is the old Bertolt Brecht joke that after careful consideration the Government decided to get itself a new Electorate. How’s that working out for you, Frau Merkel?
    So perhaps it’s no surprise that Cable is yanking our chain. Well, Vince, apart from being well-known for having predicted nineteen of last two recessions, let’s have a look at your recent claim to fame:
    “nostalgia for a world where passports were blue, faces were white and the map was coloured imperial pink”
    Nostalgia. Since when did that become reprehensible? Anyway, I don’t have to go back to the Imperial 1880s when Vince was a lad, I still experience a little nostalgia for the 1980s. You remember the 80s… when the Sex Gang Children was the name of a punk rock band – not a national scandal supressed by the BBC for reasons of cultural cohesion (most recently in Telford).
    When HM the Queen was just about the only British woman to still wear a headscarf.
    And when the only place you would see women dressed in black head-to-toe and with faces obscured was in Knightsbridge because some visiting Arab Sheik had sent a couple of his wives to Harrods for the sales.
    Before the politicians became moralists, the police became politicians and journalists became highly selective of the news they were willing to convey.
    When despite the fact the Russians were communists and sworn to destroy our way of life the BBC still gave the Kremlin and their useful idiots such as CND the benefit of the doubt.
    I could go on… but feel free to indulge in your own nostalgia – while it’s still legal.


  34. Terminal Moraine says:

    For anyone else who thinks there’s something very fishy about the official line on the Russia ‘threat’:

    —”As recently as 2016 Dr Robin Black, Head of the Detection Laboratory at the UK’s only chemical weapons facility at Porton Down, a former colleague of Dr David Kelly, published in an extremely prestigious scientific journal that the evidence for the existence of Novichoks was scant and their composition unknown.

    […] Yet now, the British Government is claiming to be able instantly to identify a substance which its only biological weapons research centre has never seen before and was unsure of its existence. Worse, it claims to be able not only to identify it, but to pinpoint its origin. Given Dr Black’s publication, it is plain that claim cannot be true.”

    ‘The Novichok Story Is Indeed Another Iraqi WMD Scam.’

    ‘Russian to Judgement’


  35. MarkyMark says:

    BBC are about to be kicked out of Cairo, Egypt because Egypt did not like the BBC to reporting on missing people … but BBC report on …


    . . .

    A Cairo court has set date in April for the first hearing in a lawsuit filed against the BBC demanding the closure of its Cairo office and the withdrawal of its licence to operate in Egypt, Ahram Online said on Tuesday.

    The Cairo Court for Urgent Matters announced that the hearing – filed by lawyer Mohamed Hamed Salem – would take place on April 10.

    The court case follows a report published by the BBC that details the state’s use of torture, forced disappearances and sexual violence against Egypt’s political opposition. {alaraby


  36. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    This thread is so long now, it appears my ‘reply’ option has been grayed out?


  37. ChrisMorrison says:

    So disappointing on Question Time last night to see the Irish politician Mairead McGuiness echo the sinister Junker threat that Britain would “regret” leaving the European Union. She further went on to support the way Brexit is being negotiated, which to date has largely revolved around demanding Britain’s £40bn shakedown. This is apparently needed so that the EU can continue to run a £60bn trade surplus with the fifth largest economy in the world. And for good measure she seemed to suggest that Brexit runs the risk of returning Ireland back to the troubles – heavily mitigated at the last bout, it might be argued, by the Brits sticking around to stop both sides plunging into all out civil war.

    Little of this was questioned on the night – indeed it has been suggested that Ms McGuiness did well on the panel. Since the competition was Chris Grayling, a man who would look over promoted on a local council and Brian Cox, the competition was not great. Blowhard Cox was all fake anger and emotion, suggesting at one point that there should be a single European state and a Scotland independent from Britain. Needless to say, the Scottish mime artist lives in the United States.

    But Ms McGuiness was disappointing on a number of issues. Although her day job is vice president of the European Parliament (was ever that proud term “Parliament” traduced so badly by attaching it to the workings of this nodding donkey institution?) she must go back to Ireland occasionally where she would find an economy starting to pick up after the banking crisis. A crisis mitigated somewhat by the Brits pumping in an estimated £14bn to help pay off the rubbish property loans run up during the so-called “Celtic tiger” years. And on her way into the Emerald Isle she might have passed 50% of all the Republic’s exports that get sent to Britain, not forgetting 90% of its supply of oil and gas that come from you know who.

    If Question Time demonstrated one thing last night, it showed that it is about time that Britain started to put a bit of stick around. Everyone knows that the Irish border question is a distraction, easily solved by people of good will. In fact the open border has existed since 1922, long before the EU came into being. Everybody knows that free trade is in everyone’s interests. The Brits want to keep it that way, they just don’t believe that it automatically entitles you to come and live in their homes.


    • Loobyloo says:

      Clear bias – no one on that panel was right wing or pro Brexit….I Suppose that’s illegal now? The RT guy seemed to be there to stir up a commotion and of course Dimbleby was excellent at stifling any interesting titbits he might have to say. The Irish MEP was given an outrageously disproportionate amount of time to drone on, followed by Starmer (funniest comment…shadow cabinet has a range of members with competence and experience!!????).
      Cox – an unpleasant, smarmy, lefty luvvie of the first order, with the typical trait of ‘if you don’t agree with me, or present an argument that I can’t debate, I’m going to get angry”. Reason for being on panel? Lefty.


  38. MarkyMark says:

    This site is going to die if no one creates a new thread … give me the admin login and I will do it!


  39. scribblingscribe says:

    Yesterday the BBC news website finally reported on Telford’s victims of Muslim rapes and tortures, without mentioning the word Muslim. But the reason for the report was to dismiss the firgure of 1000 children offered by those researching the crime. The BBC reassured themselves that the figure was only 100 children, which apparently makes the BBC feel at ease.

    Today it has take a different stance saying that “More victims of child grooming in Telford have been coming forward”, and “One local project working with young abuse victims said it had received 2,000 calls for assistance in the past two years.”

    I believe the BBC are going to apologise for their deceit tomorrow.


    • Tabs says:

      I complained to the BBC on Tuesday 13th about their lack of covering Telford as they only had one short mention of a “girl being sold twice a night” as if “sold” is somehow not “raped”.

      Got a reply from the BBC today just 3 days later (a record?). They ignored my complaint of using “sold” instead of “rape” and offered this as proof of their coverage…
      The BBC News website published the front page of the Sunday Mirror on March 11, linked to the article and contained a commentary on the paper’s 18-month research. On Monday, our paper reviews again linked to the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror’s analysis of the investigation, followed by detailed articles which were on our News website front page:


      We’ve also covered the reaction from the local Council, MPs and charities like the NSPCC. The item was further covered across the BBC as follows:

      – Radio 5 Live’s ‘Emma Barnett’ and ‘5 Live Drive’ programmes spoke to our Radio Shropshire reporter and covered the issue
      – BBC Two’s ‘Victoria Derbyshire’ had a live interview with a child abuse lawyer on the subject, as well as one of the victims
      – BBC News at Six, Ten and News Channel all covered the story this week, as have Midlands Today bulletins
      – Radio 4’s ‘The World at One’ and ‘Six O’Clock News’ both had items, and local radio heard from the leader of the local council in Telford.

      We have previously reported on Child Sexual Exploitation in Telford on a number of occasions, including the last call from Lucy Allan MP for an independent inquiry:


      BBC are utter c***ts!
      The first 2 links never got a mention on the homepage. The 3rd link is the “sold twice a night” which did have a text link on the homepage but doesn’t mention 1000 girls.

      The crap excuse of Midlands Today covering the news is a joke.

      I guess the BBC were too ashamed to show me the link where they found that leftie copper saying it is “sensationalism”.

      I always find a real test of news coverage is to type “BBC telford” into Google and view the news articles. If Google can’t find the article you can be pretty sure the general public won’t find it also. A google search just now shows 5 BBC news articles about Telford, 3 of which are less than 24 hours old, one is the “sensationalism” article and the other is Victoria Derbyshire one.

      I guess as long as Radio Midlands mentioned it at 4:03am whilst music was playing then the BBC are unbiased.


      • vlad says:

        Tabs – Well done for complaining, we must keep up the pressure till the beeb is smashed.


      • Loobyloo says:

        Well done. I wonder if they sometimes put ‘inconvenient’ articles on during UK small hours, for a very short time?


  40. theisland says:

    Let us not forget Brexit and the double-dealing of our Remainer civil servants.
    “Bombshell tapes reveal how top Whitehall officials compared Brexit to a KitKat with chocolate layer hiding UK ties to Brussels”
    “A private conference last Friday saw ambassadors and officials from France, Holland, Belgium, Sweden, Poland and Italy meet the Brits at the London School of Economics to discuss post-exit plans”
    “…. tapes passed to The Sun reveal senior civil servants secretly pledging to continue spending taxpayers’ cash propping up Brussels defence and foreign projects — including the controversial “EU Army”.
    “Last night leading Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg demanded an official inquiry into the meeting, saying: “It is wrong for British civil servants to be briefing the other side in except in a formal negotiation context.”


  41. scribblingscribe says:

    Quote from Philip Collins in The Times, a man who I believe voted for Corbyn in the Labour leadership elections: “1941, George Orwell wrote of his comrades on the political left that they were “sometimes squashily pacifist, sometimes violently pro-Russian, but always anti-British”.

    So its nothing new, in fact it is part of Labour’s tradition.


  42. Fedup2 says:

    Thanks for the update . My blood pressure won’t let me watch it any more . I think the Irish – 3 million people plus 1 mission economic migrants are shouting loudly because deep down they are shit scarred and know in reality that one Blighty comes out of the Reich EU they will too.

    As you say – the border can be dealt with and the criminal /freedom fighters from both sides can be bought off like in the bad Friday agreement. They like their 4x4s and Spanish villas too much

    Generally – I wonder if anyone has ever changed their mind by watching the dimbly show? So many entrenched rants and failing to explain or listen.

    The last time I saw it JRM was on and spell bound the audience and panel by explaining what national debt really meant .
    Like so much al Beeb froth QT is a waste .


  43. Denton says:

    BBC ministry of truth latest ……..

    “The BBC is recognised by audiences in the UK and around the world as a provider of news that you can trust. ”



  44. Fedup2 says:

    Denton – the word “all’ was not inserted before
    ‘Audiences” .


  45. vlad says:

    Poor old beebistan, however hard they try to hide it, the bad news about muslims just keeps coming in, and they can’t bury it all because everyone else is publishing it. (Thank goodness for what’s left of our free press).

    1) “Iraqi teenager convicted over Tube bomb
    Hassan arrived in the UK as a child asylum seeker”

    (remember those poor little refugees Lilly and the luvies were virtue-signalling to let in?)

    (of course the beeb try to blame it on the authorities who failed to de-radicalise him)

    2) “Telford abuse: MP ‘inundated’ with child grooming reports”

    The numbers just keep rising beeb! Can’t hide it any more can you?

    But to compensate they do a bit of islamic propaganda, natch, plugging some muslimic school that gets good results, allegedly.



  46. Fedup2 says:

    Excellent al Beeb bias – daily politics

    Declaration first – I’m a catholic and believe in catholic education – I did very well in a catholic private school .

    Anyway – just watched a representative of catholic education being beaten up on al Beeb because the religions are campaigning to lift a 50 Per cent limit of religious believers going to their own religions’ schools – I think this was aimed at preventing the Muslims from keeping their anti Christian – anti British beliefs in house . But it hits catholics , Jews and Protestants just same .

    No mercy was shown to this chap who patiently tried to explain the sad consequences – namely catholics being stopped from going to catholic schools – but the two commentators – one of whom is a queer called Ian dale – were basically let loose on the fellow whilst the beeboid looked on.

    Glad I don’t pay for their poison any more .


  47. ChrisMorrison says:

    I really enjoy this site – I think many of the contributions are interesting and often outstanding. But it seems to have died with no indication from the moderator as to why there has been no new thread activity for some time. I hope all is well, I really do since the site does great work and is a real pain in the backside for our state broadcaster. I think the contributors are due an announcement about the current state of play. If not there are other sites around including the excellent “Is the BBC biased?” to which affections will reluctantly be moved.


    • Up2snuff says:

      CM, could it be connected to the layout changes that have occurred in the past week?

      Lots of time spent adjusting site software, no or less time for writing headers for, and putting up, the new Threads?


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Maybe they are waiting to see if the comment count can reach 1000 before the thread becomes topical again?

      But it’s been noticeable for a while that Alan is carrying this site more or less on his own. I don’t envy him the task.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I tried to comment on “Is the BBC Biased?” the other day. I gave up trying to log on with one of my accounts – it ain’t user friendly!

      But makes a good read nonetheless.


  48. MarkyMark says:

    order-order.com used to be good but seems to be selling and promoting Greggs at the moment?!

    Compare and contrast ….

    “Turning to this place, this building is intimidating. It reeks of the establishment and of power; its systems are confusing—some may say archaic—and it was built at a time when my class and my sex (female) would have been denied a place within it because we were deemed unworthy. I believe that the intimidating nature of this place is not accidental. The clothes, the language, and the obsession with hierarchies, control and domination are symbolic of the system at large. But the most frustrating thing has been to sit opposite those people who tell me that things are better, and that suffering has lessened for my constituents. … ” Laura Pidcock{youtube}


    “There are few countries in the world where you can go in one generation from immigrant to parliamentarian. Michael Howard spoke of the British dream—people choosing this country because of its tolerance and its opportunity. It is a land where a girl from Nigeria can move, aged 16, be accepted as British and have the great honour of representing Saffron Walden. … As Woody Allen said about sex, “If it’s not messy, you’re not doing it right.” The same is true of democracy. It is not always predictable; its results are not always elegant; it can throw up results that no one expected—but we adjust. The British Parliament always has adjusted, and that is why it is the oldest in the world: it takes its lead from the British people.” Kemi Badenoch{youtube}


    • Fedup2 says:

      Interesting that Pidcock has a safe labour seat with 52% of the turn out in the last election and unless I misread it her constituents voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU – who cares though – they’re only voters – what would they know .

      I’m guess Durham would vote for a dog if it had a red rosette on it .


    • Eddy Booth says:

      ‘As Woody Allen said about sex, “If it’s not messy, you’re not doing it right.” ‘

      The actual quote by Woody Allen:
      “Is sex dirty? Only when it’s being done right.”

      The real quote fits the article better too, maybe:
      Is democracy dirty? Only when we get our hands on it…


  49. Eddy Booth says:

    I might never get a first poster badge, but I might get a thousandth on this massive thread..
    Parsons Green bomber: The Iraqi fantasist who wanted attention_100415610_65a15272-a383-4d2c-8fb9-5a58bd18d3ad.jpg

    Wow, a falling knife….
    can he move his hands in time?
    oh, I’ve just noticed the bit of string thats securely holding it.