Most fascinating meeting I’ve been involved with in twenty plus years in politics.
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) January 9, 2018
There is to be an inquiry into how the Media acted towards the families of victims after the Manchester bombing by a Muslim terrorist, maybe instead they should have an inquiry into the BBC’s reporting on Brexit or perhaps on Trump. Today’s BBC reports on the supposed ‘shithole’ remarks would be a good starting point.
Did Trump really say ‘shithole countries’? He denies it and there is no proof he did, no proof he didn’t…but that didn’t stop the BBC presenting it as fact this morning and happily reporting that Trump was a ‘racist’…even though his supposed words would have merely indicated he would have liked educated people who could make a valuable contribution to America rather than uneducated people who came with a begging bowl, very costly needs and demands, and more than likely an extreme culture that was at odds with the American one…not racist just common sense and indeed what most countries practice in their immigration policies. As for being ‘shitholes’…possibly a term many people would use.
The Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico and the Wall Street Journal all reported the comments on Thursday, quoting witnesses or people briefed on the meeting.
Except that’s not what happened…the Washington Post admits its scoop is second hand rumour…..there were only two others at the meeting, one a Republican and one a Democrat….
The president met on Thursday with Senators Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, and Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois. The senators are working to codify the protections in DACA.
The WaPo though is convinced…..
President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they discussed protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to several people briefed on the meeting.
“Why do we need more Haitians?” Trump said, according to people familiar with the meeting. “Take them out.”
So told to the Washington Post by people not at the meeting but ‘briefed’ on it by someone obviously anti-Trump[why else brief against him?] and who ‘sexed it up’. And ‘people familiar with the meeting’…what does that mean?…such amorphous phrasing suggests the WaPo is trying to imply it has a credible source when it doesn’t have one.
The New York Times has managed to name a name…a Democrat of course…..
Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, said on Friday that the president did use the term “shithole,” repeatedly, during the course of the meeting on immigration — which Mr. Durbin attended. The senator described Mr. Trump as saying “things which were hate-filled, vile and racist.”
Pretty much at odds with the Tweet at the top of the post from before this ‘scandal’ broke from Rep. Lindsay Graham, also at the meeting. So why does the BBC believe a Democrat with an axe to grind and not a Republican?
Curiously Durbin doesn’t Tweet at all about his alleged accusation reported in the NYT…..in fact he tells us he has successfully concluded an agreement on immigration with the Republicans…..
— Senator Dick Durbin (@SenatorDurbin) January 11, 2018
The virulently anti-Trump NYT goes on to claim Trump doesn’t deny using such words…and yet he does….’This was not the language used’…
The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made – a big setback for DACA!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018
The NYT links to another supposed ‘quote’ from Trump in its bid to mark him down as a racist…
In a private meeting in June of last year, Mr. Trump said immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS.”
But once again it’s those very credible sources…
They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there.
So nothing in black and white, no verbatim written record, no tapes, just the word of someone who clearly is anti-Trump.
And would Trump have been wrong to suggest HIV was a problem in Haitian immigrants? A report from 2007 suggests very much right….
HIV went directly from Africa to Haiti, then spread to the United States and much of the rest of the world beginning around 1969, suggests an international team of researchers.
The findings settle a key debate on the history and transmission route of the deadly virus, the scientists say.
When AIDS was officially recognized in 1981 in the U.S., for instance, the unusually high prevalence of the disease in Haitian immigrants fueled speculation that the Caribbean island was the source of the mysterious illness.
This is the problem with the whole immigration debate, as in the UK the pro-open borders, let’emallin brigade weaponise immigration and try to win the argument by demonising anyone who wants to control it as a racist as they are doing with Trump, conveniently ignoring all the facts that support his position…such as Haitians brought HIV to America…and of course classically that Hillary Clinton also wanted a barrier to stop illegal immigation….Trump says it and he’s a racist, Clinton says it…and the BBC et al don’t mention it…..
4 October 2006
Last Friday, however, she did exactly that, joining Senate Republicans and the majority of her Democratic colleagues in voting for an ignominious piece of legislation known as the “Secure Fence Act of 2006.”
“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in,” Clinton said “and I do think that you have to control your borders.”
“As president, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration, including border security and fixing our broken system.”