426 Responses to Start The Week Open Thread

  1. Beeb Brother says:

    I bet the terrorists raided today had read Lammy’s report. They heard of possible bias in the justice system so decided to plot mass murder. It is all our fault – we were so unfair they had no choice but to make nail bombs.

    Top performance from the Police up north: they ignored mass rape but felt mass murder ought to be prevented. Now that really is fantastic policing.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Kaiser just said
      \\How does the idiot Lammy think more bame judges is going to help exactly

      studies suggest your chance of going to court if arrested for any particular crime is much the same no matter what your ethnicity

      studies also suggest sentencing isnt any different no matter what your ethnicity

      So once the JURY finds you guilty the judges power is to sentence you, is he really suggesting BAME people get shorter sentences, because that seems to be the only logic.

      What next only a small % of terrorists in jail to be muslims to reflect society?

      Had to laugh at the radio as presenter introduced a BAME ex prisoner who said once the officers started to call us BLACK and not COLOURED then we all got on much better and once they understood our culture better us BME prisoners felt much better

      jeez mate if you dont know your BAME from your BME how the fook should we know what to say//
      reposted cos Kaiser put it in the OLD thread

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Re Ramadan diabetes
    \\ UK-based Muslim radio station Radio Dawn“
    advices its listeners to ignore the advice of non-Muslim doctors“//

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Mel Phillips.. Be on her website soon.

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    • Guest Who says:

      OT, but related and all too typical…

      Classic FM Global Toss News just had a ‘report’ about the arrests for terror ‘Up North’.

      They even had a vox pop from Gordon, a bystander, who copped a glimpse of a perp in the Black Maria.

      According to Gordon, he was a male, in shorts.

      If anyone asked me for a description, I must ensure I have the keen eye of a Gordon to keep the inquisitive news media happy.

      And Treezer’s cuddly PR Force.

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    • Guest Who says:

      OT, but related and all too typical…

      Classic FM Global Toss News just had a ‘report’ about the arrests for terror ‘Up North’.

      They even had a vox pop from Gordon, a bystander, who copped a glimpse of a perp in the Black Maria.

      According to Gordon, he was a male, in shorts.

      If anyone asked me for a description, I must ensure I have the keen eye of a Gordon to keep the inquisitive news media happy.

      And Treezer’s cuddly PR Force.

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    • Guest Who says:

      OT, but related and all too typical…

      Classic FM Global Toss News just had a ‘report’ about the arrests for terror ‘Up North’.

      They even had a vox pop from Gordon, a bystander, who copped a glimpse of a perp in the Black Maria.

      According to Gordon, he was a male, in shorts.

      If anyone asked me for a description, I must ensure I have the keen eye of a Gordon to keep the inquisitive news media happy.

      And Treezer’s cuddly PR Force.

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Great article from Mel.
      Thnk she misses out on how the Far Left can now exert THEIR anti-semitism safe in the knowledge that all the imported Muslims will firebomb the synagogues as they profess clean hands and no online incitement.
      The Muslims are the lefts shock troops, and they think their intelligence will allow them to control what the Muslims will do once the Jews are gone. Sorry-the Ayatollah wiped out the revolutionary left as soon as he`d dealt with the Shahs bunch.#
      People will die for islam-they will NOT die for the Left-that is the fate for those who don`t snuff the Left out when they had the chance.
      Only good thing maybe is that the AfD and Britain First/For Britain get more influence in politics that they`d ever haver got otherwise-they don`t need to bother being anti-Semitic if Islam is doing all the heavy lifting.
      Geert and most of the so called “far right” are not anti-Semitic whatsoever-but they need to back Trump and hammer the anti-Semitic stake deep into the lefts rotten heart, and not be silent. Corbyn and his mates are Jew-baiters-start from that, give no ground until THEY stay in the dock long enough to get the spotlight and show trials needed.

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    Middle East is getting hotter …

    BBC: Yemen rebel ballistic missile ‘intercepted over Riyadh’ {bbc.co.uk 19dec2017}

    The missile had targeted a “meeting of the leadership of the Saudi regime in al-Yamama Palace in Riyadh”, during which Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was expected to discuss the kingdom’s annual budget, Al Masirah said.

    – At least they mention Iran, fail to mention Islamic or religion!

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    • Pounce says:

      In 1973, after Syria had captured the Golan heights and poised to invade Israel proper and Egypt had crossed the Suez canal and poised to invade Israel proper, Israeli planes were getting shot out of the sky by the hour, IDF tanks were getting destroyed by the new Russian Sagger missile and the writting really was on the wall for the jews

      The Israelis loaded A4 skyhawks with nukes and got ready to nuke both Egypt and Syria. Possibly a few other Islamic counties as well . the US on hearing this, informed Israel, that if they didn’t , they would resupply them.

      I often wonder that if they had would the world be a much better place today.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC accused the Saudis of ‘sabre-rattling’ yet for having defences?

      Mishap kicked her scoreboard out the studio?

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  5. MarkyMark says:

    “We have learnt somethings in the last 10 years. We’ve learnt in as clear a way as could possibly be learnt by anybody, most of the press in free Western countries are cowards. We’ve learnt that most of our artistic establishment are cowards. And most of our politicians are cowards.” – Douglas Murray – @5:05

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    • vlad says:

      Most of the press in free Western countries are cowards…

      “We’ve learnt in as clear a way as could possibly be learnt by anybody, most of the press in free Western countries are cowards.” YES.
      “We’ve learnt that most of our artistic establishment are cowards.” YES.
      ” And most of our politicians are cowards.” YES.

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  6. Sluff says:

    It’s irony time at the biased BBC. I am indebted to the hated D. Mail for this classic observation.

    Reference Sports ‘Personality ‘ of the Year.
    Without any attempts to create an agenda or narrative, in those halcyon pre-Political correctness days……
    Women won SPOTY in 1962,3,4,9, 1971,2,7, 1984,,7, 1991, 2002, 4, and 6.
    But in the last decade, SPOTY has become a virtue- signalling love-in, with less and less focus on sporting achievement and more and more on ticking as many politically correct boxes as possible.
    And guess what? This is the longest period ever when no woman has won !!!!!!!

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – I’m surprised the black girl who got the girlies’ England manager sacked on a racial didn’t get some sort of award. Have they won since ? No – don’t bother answering – I really don’t care…

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  7. Guest Who says:

    Maybe one to be answered post midnight?

    Or… not.

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    Yes double – always down to war , bugs or food in the end. I often muse about their governments ? Is there any ? They can’t spend all their time spending taxpayer aid money can they?

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  9. Fedup2 says:

    The story in the express about people leaving tv licencing to join something called nexflixs is heartwarming and hopefully true.

    Bit off putting that al Beeb claims there are more tv licence payers than ever before. They can count me out for the foreseeable future

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    • Pounce says:

      When everybody stayed in to watch:
      Top of the Pops on a Thurs the licence fee was relevant
      The Two Ronnies on a Sat the licence fee was relevant
      MOTD on a Sat evening, the licence fee was relevant
      The Water margin on a Monday, the licence fee was relevant
      Listened to Noel Edmunds on a Sun Morning , the licence fee was relevant
      Listened to the Charts on a Sunday evening, the licence fee was relevant

      But when the bBC promotes a left-wing ideology that :
      Refuses to call people who intimidate and murder in which to bully others as terrorists.
      Refuses to recognise that actually Blacks and Muslims do carry out more crimes than white people (And I am not white)
      Promotes the view that our friends are actually our enemies and that our enemies are actually our friends
      Attacks Christianity as old fashioned, racist and bigoted, whilst defending Intolerant Islam as..peaceful
      Refuses to refer to the hundreds of Islamic males with a penchant for little girls as..paedophiles. (look it up)
      After every terrorist incident cares more about the community the attackers came from, than the victims themselves.
      then its time for the bBC licence fee to go.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fedup, and me too, until I’m entitled to a free one. Guess what? I may well turn them down then, too.

      It is currently more entertaining, more intellectually stimulating, being on here!

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  10. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Off topic.

    There’s a set of books which I’m sure many of you on here will have read but for those that have not I can heartily recommend them to cheer you up with a dose of anti pc.
    They are factually accurate and are highly entertaining.

    They are the Flashman novels by George Macdonald Fraser.
    If you haven’t read them then I envy you. I’ve read them at least 3 times each.

    If any of you have recommendations, not heavy stuff but maybe similar to Flashman, I’d love to hear about them.

    I suppose just about any children’s stories (TinTin, Enid Blyton, Rupert bear etc.) over 50 years old is now full of non pc stuff, also stories like The Dambusters, but let me know of what you like, the less pc the better.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you Emmanuel,
      I’m currently by a sunny sea so started reading the Patrick O’Brian Aubrey series – 21 books in all apparently – so one down 20 to go in 2018 until after Brexit. Then I’ll do the flashmans !

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fedup, I enjoyed the BBC R4 versions of those, too, but they seem to have ground to a halt.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        F2
        It’s not so much the historical nature of the Flashman books, it’s the sheer non pc writing.
        Try the ones where he’s involved with the slave trading and going to America.
        I’m surprised they are not banned and being burned by the snowflakes.
        They have all the refreshingly pc free terms nobody dare utter nowadays.
        No shying away from woodpiles and so wonderfully misogynistic.
        You’ll not want to put it down.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Emmanuel,
          Thank you – I’ll add them to the book list as I try to pick up another 18 O’Brian books . As well as ‘sums for beginners ‘ by ms D. Abbot

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      • DownBoy says:

        The Aubrey/Maturin novels by Patrick O’Brian are the best books I have ever read. Do yourselves a colossal favour, Biasteers, and get into them now. Like me and Fedup, you will never regret it.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Before Kindles & iBooks, on holiday I hoovered through my books in a few days and so borrowed the kids’ Artemis Fowls. Really enjoyed them.

      Could not get them interested in Biggles. But Hornblower never fails.

      More up to date are the Sharpes and other Bernard Cornwalls, and complementing Patrick O’Brians.

      Simon Sparrow or Conn Igullden can sword and sandal a fair gory tale too.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        GW
        Yes, I forgot about the Tom Sharpe books.
        The 2 South African based books stand out, Riotous Assembly and Indecent Exposure.
        Hilarious.

        Best and funniest book ever written by the way, in my opinion, Catch 22.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          I had something lined up as a Christmas – New Year book to read but have forgotten what it was! It could have been Steve Bannon’s book. I know people who hate him but someone on here put up a TV interview and I was impressed by his clear thinking and rational understanding & explanation.of democratic conservatism.

          Aaah! Remembered. It was the guy who interviewed him. New Yorker – it was his book I was going to see if they had in the Library. Can’t remember a name. Will a search engine rescue me?

          My back-up for that is the first of Anthony Powell’s first in his Dance – Time series, just to see if he is as good as some, including Beeboids, think he is.

          I miss Alan Coren’s broadcast humour so that might be something to resort to along with Clive James. [Just pretend he is not Australian and England haven’t just lost the Ashes. 🙁 ]

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Keith Koffler interviewed Bannon. He wrote a biography of Steve Bannon. That’s my first choice.

            Ugghh! Political groupie, I hear you say. 🙂

            Ok, read some Dickens then. Oh, and Flashman was political, too, but just not THAT political as something like a Bannon biography. I’m curious about the guy.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, I enjoyed Neil Gaiman’s last BBC R4 offering but I gather political correctness and so-called ‘equality’ may have messed up his latest offering.

      A book that is currently blowing my mind is a Christian one, ‘Dirty Glory’ by Pete Greig. It contains what we possibly need to get the UK out and away from the EU.

      Stoikiy muzhik.

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    • Deborah says:

      Mr D likes the Patrick O’Brian books if that is any help.

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        If we’re reminiscing non- PC books I remember John Normans series “Gor books” from many decades ago , with titles like “Slave girl of Gor” the snowflakes would be fainting in the bookshops and hold mass rallies to burn them.

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    • Beltane says:

      Could not agree more EG – I’m currently re-reading them for the umpteenth time, always in the hope that someone might make use of Fraser’s extensive research to re-start the series – though of course it would take consummate bravery in today’s world of literature.
      His non-pc approach is a continuous delight, not least his habitual use of ‘Scotch’ to describe his, Fraser’s, fellow countrymen and which accurately reflected the idiom of the period, and before. Those who bridle at the term today, believing it racially demeaning by alignment with whisky, only illustrate their ignorance.
      Sadly, Fedup, I can’t agree with you on the subject of Mr O’Brian – a quite incredibly arrogant man – but that, I concede, is only my opinion. I did buy and read most of his books but gave them all to a charity shop. The very idea of re-reading made me feel like watching Newsnight or similar in-depth entertainment.

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    • Cranmer says:

      They are dated now and probably out of print, but any novel by Kingsley Amis will always have some very funny, non-PC stuff in it. Keith Waterhouse is also good – even though he was Labour, he was pre-PC era. Tom Sharpe is also excellent- ‘Porterhouse Blue’ is a particularly funny expose of PC in academia. Malcolm Bradbury’s ‘The History Man’ is a good poke at marxists in academia.

      I’ve just realised all these authors are dead and haven’t published anything for years!

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    Disney’s President Donald Trump robot gets mocked {bbc.co.uk 19dec2017}
    An animatronic version of Donald Trump created by Disney’s roboticists has attracted ridicule.
    The machine has been unveiled at the firm’s Disney World resort where it will take part in a 25 minute show.

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    Nothing to do with ISIS in the title …. Raqqa casualties: ‘I blame the coalition’
    Civilians are returning to Raqqa after Islamic State were pushed out, but dangers, and wounds, remain.

    – ‘I blame the coalition’ and would rather ISIS stayed?

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  13. Beeb Brother says:

    I just saw a trailer for ‘All Together Now’, a new programme for 2018.

    It sounds dreadful.

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  14. Beeb Brother says:

    Why were the BBC not discussing Islamic terror on Toady this morning rather than Lammy’s bullshit? It is clear what the more pressing issue is.

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  15. Fedup2 says:

    6 o’clock news – out amyl nitrate talking about ‘soft extremism’. Now I wonder how that is defined ? Is it a view which al Beeb does not agree with ? The slippery slope to the suppression of legal views seems to be getting steeper .

    It’s very worrying , it’s a bit like what the definition of “ hate speech “ is and what the punishment for it may be or become . The way things are going this website could disappear one day. I hope there is a contingency in place to restart it elsewhere.

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  16. MarkyMark says:

    This Hate Crime Hub might backfire big time ….

    Amber Rudd speech on foreign workers recorded as hate incident {theguardian 12jan2017}
    After complaint from member of the public, police say they will not be investigating speech as a hate crime

    Rudd said in her speech that she wanted to make it harder for British companies to employ migrants and to ensure foreign workers “were not taking jobs British workers could do”.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Typical lefty yooni professor.

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    • vlad says:

      So it’s now officially a ‘Hate Incident’ worthy of police attention to be patriotic and want to prioritise jobs for Brits!!

      The madness is endless.

      The Grauniad lapping it up of course.

      “A speech about foreign workers given by the home secretary, Amber Rudd, at the Tory party conference in October has been officially recorded as a hate incident, police have confirmed.”

      But I can’t feel too sorry for Rudd, who was involved in drawing up the police guidelines for so-called Hate Crime:

      “National police reporting rules introduced in 2014 and endorsed by Rudd herself require all complaints of hate crime incidents to be recorded “regardless of whether or not those making the complaint are the victim and irrespective of whether or not there is any evidence to identify the hate crime incident”.

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      • Cranmer says:

        No wonder the police need an extra £144m. It’s all got to go on this ‘hate crime’ nonsense.
        Personally, I think they should be flooded with complaints from people like us. Next time Lammy or Abbott makes a race-baiting speech, we should record it as a hate crime. Next time Cumberpatch or Lilly Allens calls for more immigrants – report as hate crime because it’s anti-British. Perhaps if enough people do this they will realise the lunacy of the whole system, that the police are required to treat someone’s subjective opinion as a crime.

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    It’s not al Beeb but it might as well be –

    If you fancy a rant to yourself have a deco at something called The Independent” website – which apparently was once a newspaper which no one read.

    It explains the mechanism for having another referendum and the mechanics of staying in the EU. Apparently the 12 December 2018 is a sort of cut off. I thought the negotiations where due for completion by 31 October for ratification before we leave March 31 2019.

    The remainers really are pushing this now – I’m guessing Lord bollock Brown is starting his evil work – it’s starting to feel like that bit at the end of the Second World War where Hitler thought he could turn it round using new wonder weapons .

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  18. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Some he/she thing in Northern Ireland on 6 o’clock news.
    ‘I feel I have a giant target on my back’ it says.

    That’s because you’re wearing a dress and lipstick.
    You’d been at my school you would have had the piss taken repeatedly and then a couple of slaps to the back of the head, and you’d have grown out if it.
    But in this new BBC wankfest, you’re now a victim.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Looks like Mark Mardell’s ideal squeeze.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Ha ha, enjoyed reading the comments. I hope the amount of people waking up to the bullshit of the BBC, Labour and the liberal left elite is rising exponentially.

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  20. Loobyloo says:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/raf-mildenhall-latest-update-us-air-base-mental-health-act-arrest-44-year-old-suffolk-police-a8118556.html
    So, the arrested man at RAF Mildenhall incident yesterday is detained under the Mental Health Act. Does that mean we don’t get to find out his name?

    No mention on the prize national broadcaster.

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  21. taffman says:

    “BBC defence correspondent Jonathan Beale said the problem was “highly embarrassing” for the Royal Navy and just one of a number of snags still to be rectified.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42406138
    See top HYS.
    Me thinks that they need to get a new “defence correspondent” ? He obviously knows nowt about ships.

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    • Lobster says:

      I’m surprised that one HYS fan had time to stop reading the Guardian to write this

      “18. Posted by Rory on
      10 hours ago
      This is the Vile & Vindictive Torys fault. So much money spent on war when it could be spent on welcoming the poor refugees from wartorn countries and nationalising essential services like the post office.”

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    • Kaiser says:

      Our 45ft canal barge take in a gallon + an hour when moving and we dont find it embarrassing

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      • StewGreen says:

        Isn’t the whole point of the 2 year “proving” period to seek out such faults and get the builders to fix them for no extra cost ?

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Stew:

          Exactly. There is a minor leak in the seal on a propellor shaft. That is the one area of the hull where you have to have an opening, for obvious reasons. This is an absolute non-story, and the BBC are only bigging it up to denigrate Britain and the Royal Navy. Not that anyone would be surprised by that.

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  22. JimS says:

    Nice to see some new comedy from the BBC that isn’t by some Muslim feminist lesbian or has-been (was he ever) Hardy, The League of Gentlemen.

    I liked this:

    Barbara is still driving the pink cab, gender-neutrally now and has come up with an acronym: ACRONYM, which stands for Actively Considering Reassignment Or Not Yet Made Your Mind Up.

    from the Guardian review.

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Never really seen this ‘Beyond 100 days ‘ programme each day which is buried on bbc 4. Where else would a tax paid state broadcaster day after day comment on the conduct of a foreign head of state? Will this always be so? Will America always have a 30 minute news programme broadcast for British taxpayers.

    The current version just seems to be a list of Democrat career swamp dwelling politicians being allowed to uncritically abuse the president of the United States .

    I wonder how this Katy or Christian character would react if the president was assassinated . They sound like they’d have a fucking party. Vermin beeboids .

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      This nightly foot rub for the Democrats, and a birch flogging for anything Trump-related was deliberately called “100 Days”. Because that was all it was meant to last, it was meant to be rolled up, 100 Days after Trumps election. Why is it still here?
      Well, pays for Katty Kay and certainly is wanted by the Democrats, by CNN and the BBC by way of endless bashing of Trump. It`s done nothing else. Why don`t we get a nightly look at Junckers wiretaps, Irelands slide into the tank or the brilliance of the EU in turning Central Europe into a fortress for the populists they so hate? After all-what happens in Trumpville hardly matters compared to what we see in Malmo or Marseilles now does it?
      This programme is a fraud. The EU deserve this scrutiny and scorn, not Trump. But it could never be allowed by the idiot left at the BBC.

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  24. Guest Who says:

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  25. StewGreen says:

    This morning @ThomasEvansGB said about a panel containing Laura K
    \\ #BBC Radio 5 Live panel shamelessly debating possibility of reversing Brexit process and remaining in the EU.
    Not once did anyone raise the morality of reversing a democratic vote.
    All 4 panelists unified the same pro-Remain sounding opinions.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    https://bbcwatch.org/2017/12/19/political-narrative-and-inaccuracy-in-bbc-twos-alternativity-part-one/
    About Mondays Alternative Nativity show from the West Bank with Banksy

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  27. StewGreen says:

    News at Ten last night : Sopels’s propaganda piece Direct link to that 45seconds
    “But the speech had nothing to say about Climate Change
    The Emperor’s suit is the finest thing I’ve ever seen
    .. It’s made up of hurricanes, forest fires and Paris”

    ends at 5:21s

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  28. Kaiser says:

    Now seeing a white man deservedly got 20years for an acid attack can we see if all acid attacks get 20years or is it 4 years per victim

    be interesting to see

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  29. Guest Who says:

    Not backing off.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Liberals just fined for not being able to do their Brexit accounts

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  31. MarkyMark says:

    Dear UK,

    Thanks for taking all of our demands for the said divorce, which is not a divorce but we use language like that so the public add emotion to the event and get confused easily. The BBC started adding so-called Divorce but we asked them to stop that because it gets confused with so-called ISIS and that would not be good PR.

    We actually don’t have a list of items that we demanded and are glad you presented money up front to show your eagerness to pay for a list of imaginary demands so now we can move onto the next list of imaginary items.

    We are also very happy that you are willing to create a superior law system within your own failing judiciary system which seems to turn the victim into the accused. In time we can make more emotive and crazy demands but you will have no recourse but to honour them for our EU citizens and their children and children’s children. In time your UK citizens will want to be EU citizens and when an EU marries a UK citizen we will obviously give them EU citizenship thus dissolving your population. We will also offer free wages for life, free housing, voting at the age of five and two transgender operations (just in case they change their minds) – these will be a basic human right.

    Germany are becoming very vocal and demanding so we need to ensure that not only can Merkel dictate when the European borders open but we will soon have a defense (see what we did? We used the word defense rather than Army) initiative to make sure the borders stay open and those that close them can be forced to stay open for the good of Europe.

    Obviously we will cement the channel tunnel as soon as possible to ensure that the water way is not used to fire up ideas of borders and independence and uniqueness ever again. You will be paying for this in addition to the £40 billion just to let you know.

    Guten Tag, Claude Juncker
    (the 1% Tax King – but no one else is allowed to copy it)

    order-order

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  32. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Gary Lineker forgot to Tweet this bit

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  33. taffman says:

    And the propaganda continues ……………..
    “Brexit: UK plans to soften impact on European banks”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42420829

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  34. taffman says:

    “Surviving period poverty with ‘socks and tissue”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42421029/surviving-period-poverty-with-socks-and-tissue
    Something to do with EU Tax?

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    • StewGreen says:

      “The European Commission says it is aiming to bring in a zero rate for sanitary products in 2018 and the UK government has already legislated to allow this to happen as soon as rules change.”
      BTW guess what the tax is per woman
      £100 year, £20 or 50p

      ” Chancellor announced .. that the funds raised by VAT on tampons and towels would be donated to women’s health and support charities. This sum was worth £15m in 2016-17.
      About 30m women in the UK, that works out at about 50p per women.

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  35. Deborah says:

    Something must be wrong. I just saw a lovely little programme about the Flying Scotsman. No mention of climate change or Brexit. There were no black men on the programme, it was very clean on the driving platform. No women either. And earlier this evening we saw a Christmas programme about repairing things. It too was charming and other than a skilled person of colour doing some of the repairs, no agenda either. Why can’t all BBC Programmes be like this?

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    • Pounce says:

      We saw that as well. absolutely delightful.

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    • vlad says:

      Whether deliberate or not, the occasional cuddly, feelgood, heartwarming programmes serve to perpetuate the illusion that the beeb are benign. The public’s goodwill and trust then get transferred over to the news programmes, where it’s a very different agenda.

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      • GCooper says:

        My personal suspicion is that what I call ‘England porn’ is deliberately shown to imply that nothing really has changed in this country and that anyone who complains about its degradation is being unnecessarily alarmist and reactionary. Programmes such as the excellent Penelope Keith series on British villages, BBC Scotland’s Farming Year series, Julie Waters’ recent series on coastal railways, various antiques shows – they all show a Britain largely unchanged since the 1950s and are usually quite carefully filmed to emphasise that.

        The reality, of course, is far different and we are never allowed to see that on our screens.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          G
          The porn high spot is Sunday night – nice Attenborough followed by downton abbey or similar or some historic novel or 1950s type thing – heartbeat – morse – – although al Beeb is putting black faces in making you realise that you are watching an al Beeb tick box programme .

          Have foreigners turned up in the archers yet?or gays or trannies ? Never heard that one

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          • GCooper says:

            Sadly, the Archers was subverted decades ago by an editor called Vanessa Whitburn. For reasons best left to the imagination, she introduced homosexual pub owners and plotlines more reminiscent of East Enders or Brookside (which, quite coincidentally of course, she also produced for several years).

            She was awarded the OBE in 2014. I have always assumed it was for services to cultural Marxism.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          GC, real England?

          You have to watch Eastenders, not, for that. I am led to believe that Eastenders does not display the true life of East London but just the BBC’s understanding of it from W1A and Hampstead, Highgate and Muswell Hill.

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        • Banania says:

          Such programmes are set in the country that Katie Hopkins calls The Rest of England.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Merely teasers to keep their audience. The effects will soon wear off, and you’ll be back cussing, again.

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  36. taffman says:

    Sheffield arrests over ‘alleged UK Christmas terror plot’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-42410084
    Well done to our intelligence and security forces !
    But what government left this Fifth Column in to our country in the first place?

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  37. Dave S says:

    I watched the end of the ludicrous ‘Invasion ‘ on BBC.
    Now the BBC needs to decide if it is a propaganda outfit or a real broadcaster. They tell us that endless invasions have made the people of this island and that the English do not actually exist and the clear inference is that these have been continuous from early days to the present. That assumption has to be challenged .
    I wish to know and to have it clearly stated that in the period from 1066 to the mid to late 19th century apart from the Hugenots ( that convenient alibibi) who were they and where did they come from . That is a long long period of time and I wish to know.
    If the presenter and his writers cannot answer then I accuse them of distortion and a falsehood.
    This is a serious matter and it is as well that we recall words of Solzhenitsen
    “Let the lie come into the world but not through me”
    So if anyone at the BBC reads this then take up the challenge or forever hold your peace.
    Most of us know why this lie is so often uttered and it is contemptible and an insult to our ancestors and to me personally.

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    • vlad says:

      The clear inference is that Invasion is good for us. So let the current one continue apace, and let us celebrate it!

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      • Kaiser says:

        lets forget the harrying of the north after 1066 and the fact there were so few normans their dna doesnt feature significantly enough to be identifiable

        and the fact that anglo-saxon dna is strongest in the south east and dissipates as it spreads west and north

        and that there were only about 50k Hugenots who once speaking english were indistinguishable from the english and brought with them advanced skills

        any who spouts this tripe about us being a land of immigrants is either an idiot or a liar

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        • - Wild - says:

          The percentage of BBC programmes which are rendered unwatchable because of their Leftist propaganda and disinformation is heading towards 100%. It includes nearly all its news and current affairs output, nearly all its comedy programmes, and nearly all of its drama output. I can count on one hand the number of programmes worth watching on the BBC now, and even these are heavily infected with Leftist political correctness. The BBC has never resembled more closely the sort of broadcaster you expect to find in a one party State. The television liscense fee is the C21st equivalent of ship money, it is directly undermines our free society. The BBC quite simply are the enemy. That we are forced to pay for them is nothing short of a national scandal.

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          • - Wild - says:

            The percentage of BBC programmes which are rendered unwatchable because of their Leftist propaganda and disinformation is heading towards 100%. It includes nearly all its news and current affairs output, nearly all its comedy programmes, and nearly all of its drama output. I can count on one hand the number of programmes worth watching on the BBC now, and even these are heavily infected with Leftist political correctness. The BBC has never resembled more closely the sort of broadcaster you expect to find in a one party State. The television license fee is the C21st equivalent of ship money, it is directly undermines our free society. The BBC quite simply are the enemy. That we are forced to pay for them is nothing short of a national scandal.

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          • Banania says:

            Take refuge in the wonderful freeview channel 81, Talking Pictures. There are so many good films on it that I have temporarily almost abandoned reading.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Kaiser, no, they are not liars. It is quantity and lifestyle that they do not or fail to refer to. It was just relatively limited unless militarily objectified. While the UK has been ‘invaded’ (for want of a better word) by people groupings over the millennia and migrated into by individuals and other groups is not in doubt.

          You need to remember that freedom of movement is not a new EEC/EC/EU concept. It existed into the UK until the turn of the 20th century. Similarly it was possible for British people to move freely around Europe. Even after terrorism (of the Leftist, Revolutionary sort) and some excessive migration caused restrictions here (and elsewhere?), it was possible to move around from country to country, both before and after WW2.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dave, did the ‘Invasion’ programme make any reference to departures or expulsions?

      We had migration of merchants and seamen of every kind into the UK for millennia.

      Then there were the effects of Empire or of dominant trades or of persecution or revolution. Some French came here to escape the French Revolution. Enough to create concern that Revolutionaries were among their number and would ‘export it’ here. For example, one of the concerns around large migration at the end of 19th/beginning 20th century UK was Chinese, largely through the shipping industry.

      Do you remember ‘Dickensian’, one of the last BBC programmes I watched before iPlayer restrictions? Christmas/New Year 2015/2016. Remarks were made on here about the skin tone of a couple of young actors & actresses but missed the major fact that no Indians were visible as servants or on the street, no Dutch, no Rabbis, no Jews apart from Fagin and no Chinese. At all. A very big error for the street and dockland scenes. They should have been plenty on view. No Russians either. They were a growing number among the UK population through the 19th century and they were the ones, largely, who brought the terrorism that resulted in a clamp down on immigration to the UK. Did the programme mention that?

      Apart from the Chinese, Hugenot, Dutch, newly Protestantised Christians of central & western Europe and Jewish mass-migrations, much immigration has been at relatively low levels.

      Did the programme mention that?

      All these are just examples from, currently, off the top of my head. If you do some research you can no doubt find more information.

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      • Cranmer says:

        The Invasion programme was one of the clumsiest examples of BBC racial propaganda I have seen, and that’s saying something. They ALWAYS mention the Hugenots, and NEVER focus on the fact that they were a. a relatively small minority, b. Protestants c.highly skilled workers. There is simply no comparison between them and any of the influxes of non-European migrants that have come to the country since the Blair era. I don’t recall, for example, any Hugenots going on murderous rampages through the streets of London or preaching sedition and hatred openly in the streets.

        The worst thing about this programme was its unaddressed moral relativism. The implication was that ‘invasion’ is not necessarily a bad thing – a clear attempt to soften us up for globalism and open-door immigration. But if that is true, why did so many English and Britons give their lives to defend our islands against Philip II, or Napoleon, or the Kaiser, or Hitler? Why did we simply not invite them in to enrich us, if all-comers should be made welcome? It was a glaring illogicality.

        If there is no ‘us’, no ‘British people’ as the programme clumsily rammed home, then why make a programme extolling the virtues of those who repelled invasion? Why mourn the 60 shoppers killed by the first German bomb dropped on Ramsgate in 1917? Why not rebuke them for failing to welcome the enriching hordes of the Kaiser?

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  38. vlad says:

    Nice to see that in these troubled times, the beebistan keeps an eye on the really big issues:
    “Video games: How big is industry’s racial diversity problem?” they ask, on their Home page no less.
    Good old beeb, dragging race into everything.

    Because they understand nothing about business, let me explain:
    1) If the gaming industry spots a demand for black or brown characters in games, don’t worry, they’ll produce them like a shot (It’s already happening).

    2) If black and Asian (BAME) game designers are good, the industry will employ them like a shot.

    Case closed, go find something else to bitch about and stir up race hatred.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42357678

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Vlad; As far as the world of tv advertising is concerned, I wonder if I’m missing something in never having been in a relationship with a person of colour, which appears to be the norm in that industry – whatever age you are. Mixed families slumped on the sofa together, really ? I must be living one hell of a sheltered life !!! Where I live many white girls who have got themselves knocked up resulting in a mixed race child, the father has generally done a runner !! Funny how the ads never portray that side of mixed relationships. Tesco go a step further and show 2 cartoon characters, possibly of Indian heritage in a Christmas setting. I know many are Christians, but substantially more are of the Muslim and other faiths, so whats THAT all about ?

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  39. Cassandra says:

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  40. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Not particularly about al Beeb bias – but listening to one Matt Hancock – minister for digital things – with meeshhall. Broadband speeds . If you live out in the sticks you might not get it. Anyway our meesh and Matt had a non sensible interview about the Tory manifesto promise and BT. Matt sounded like he had been watching ‘yes minister’ videos to sound inept but might have been clever in bambuseling simple meesh. Humph or Brillo would have ripped him a new one.

    Then a sober Sopel explaining why President Trump delivering a campaign promise of cutting taxes wasn’t a good thing. He ll go back to trying to find nasty Russians . I bet when Putin rang the White House to thank America for stopping an Islamic terrorist attack Sopel would have wished it went ahead so that he Katy and Christian would have another strand to beat president trump with

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  41. Sluff says:

    Toady watch 2
    This morning around 0735 the subject of trade with China came up.
    And wheeled on for a cosy fireside chat with ‘Useless’ was that erudite and impartial commentator on events………….Lord Mandelson !!!! One of the bBBC’s favourites and no mistake.
    But as he was speaking as an ‘expert’, Useless asked absolutely no difficult questions at all.
    Mandelson of course took the opportunity to sneak in some nice snide anti Brexit, pro EU remarks, as he would, being an ex EU employee with a large taxpayer funnded pension. All totally unchallenged by Useless.

    The BBC. They look after their own.

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  42. Cassandra says:

    I am absolutely furious that CNN can review this book and yet the BBC, especially James Naughtie, have not yet considered this tome worthy of a review. I shall be cancelling my licence fee forthwith!

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  43. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch 3

    a) Matt Hancock is up against Mishal Husain, anxious to demonstrate that the Government are breaking a manifesto promise less than seven months after the GE campaign. She ignores the fact that HMG are tip-toeing toward breaking BT’s obscene monopoly over telecoms in the UK which is an achievement of which they should be proud.

    b) Sopey is up to grind away at President Trump’s tax cut legislation victory with the help of a woman economist. As a bit of an economist myself, I wonder why Sopel doesn’t raise the fact that the President is pursuing a proven failed economic strategy and one that is now long outdated thanks to globalisation. But no. He does the Corbyn-lefty thing – which has a very good point to it – but is … politically slanted.

    I am glad the President has had a victory. I love the way it puts out of joint the noses of undemocratic Democrats in the US, lefties and socialists everywhere and, most of all, at the BBC. I’m also glad that President Trump is experimenting on the American people, rather than Theresa May doing it to us (beware – she & Hammond want to) but am afraid that he is sowing the seeds of longer term-failure for the Republicans.

    c) So instead we finish with the BBC handling failure to be neutral with a failure to understand economics AND be neutral and finally be neutral AND understand economics AND conservatism with the ECJ ruling on Uber. Guess who loses out there? Yep. Again it is the small guy. The one on lower income, who maybe cannot charge a black cab fare to an Expense Account or who doesn’t earn a BBC style-salary. They also fail to really notice and underline the protectionist nature of the ECJ ruling, although it is – to be fair – hinted at..

    I wonder why?

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  44. Peter Grimes says:

    Apologies if this has been posted before, but I couldn’t believe that this was ‘our’ Justin Webb –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5196791/Trumps-economy-march-writes-JUSTIN-WEBB.html

    Looked up Wiki to see if it said he was a Daily Wail contributor but it was inconclusive. Did give insight into Webb’s anti -US bias. Apparently his son became very ill when he was posted there so he came into contact with the US healthcare system. You can bet your boots though that Al Beeb’s medical insurers paid for all treatment, tissues and visitors’ grapes even rather than Justin’s boy using the public system.

    The inevitable dig at Trump towards the end, but you wonder if Webb would say the same on Al Beeb’s hallowed air.

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  45. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC had an item on the w/s Home Page titled ‘Is this the most Christmas obsessed country?’ and I wanted to click on the link but I might have lost the page. (I observe sometimes, when I have time, how the BBC alters its web news emphasis during the course of a day. I start to open another one but in the time I have done that – mere seconds – the item has been taken down.)

    Here’s the thing: I then use the BBC’s search facility. Result? ‘Sorry, there are no results for is this the most christmas obsessed country.’

    Absolutely useless. The BBC cannot link even to their own web articles!

    Remind me, please, who is the BBC’s Director responsible for Digital?

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  46. G says:

    I’m afraid I’m handicapped. I have no TV Licence and I do not intend buying one. I now stream. However, my handicap is that I am no longer able to view the lies, deceit and manipulated news the BBC spews out moment by moment to highlight here. I do occasionally listen to Radio 4 but, from today, I think those days are numbered.
    Take for example today, the legal profession, Police and CPS are deeply worried about two cases where either the courts or the CPS withdrew because critical evidence was not submitted to the defence by our own (‘some say’, ‘Thought Police’). Institutional problem ‘some say’. We now hear that it was the same detective that was involved in both cases. No name given. Watch this one develop. I am sure that a few weeks ago, the detective’s name was mentioned on one of the alternative internet news sources. If my memory serves me correctly he is one of their Asian intakes. For sure the BBC will not tell the public for reasons we, here, know only too well.
    BBC announce that there will be more “religion” broadcast particularly explaining the tenets of individual religions……. Clearly a ‘whitewash’ is coming as the British Islamic Broadcasting Corporation preferred ‘religion’, islam (for those who might not have guessed) will be at the top of the pile. I imagine they will kick off with a bit of Christianity and Catholicism to show, ‘balance’ before a daily dose of islam takes precedence. Me? I’m totally irreligious. So, when the pro-islamic IBBC start broadcasting I will be off.
    Good ol’ Jon Sopel still foaming at the mouth, tells us that President Trumps (“first”?) legislative success is upon the people of the US. Then the absolute negativity and hatred steps in: ‘but the new law will only benefit the rich’. Fake News by omission.
    Ah, when I leave R4 I will have fond memories of Sarah Montague slipping in that Hilary Clinton is to be the next POTUS. That was 7/10 days before the election………………….That’s real ‘Fake News’ for you, a better example you will not find.

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    • Old Goat says:

      I stopped viewing, and listening to the BBC some years ago. My life is refreshed. The news I get, I receive from reliable sources, and am inclined to believe it. I don’t miss the tainted (and tinted) dramas, and the BBC forgot what comedy meant yonks ago. I read blogs (like this one) and am aghast at how people get so enraged over the BBC and its shitty output, and wonder why they bother. If the BBC, Sky, Channel 4, Facebook, and Twitter (amongst others) were snatched from the ready grasp of the populace, what a more pleasant life it would be.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      With you on all of those -I remember the head girl ( monti) also using “we” when interviewing a socialist as to why they lost the last election.

      The copper does have an asian name. He hasn’t been suspended or charged yet so his identity is fair game . No wonder al Beeb won’t use it. It is mark azariah – his picture and details are on the mail online site . I’m guessing the cause of this is number 1 and 2 listed below.

      Need to keep an open mind on that one – incompetency – over work – malign intent – one or all of them . He’s certainly in the doo doo.

      You’ll notice too that the Schiphol knife incident , the military airport incident as well as the overblown coverage of the Birmingham 6 dead accident have disappeared .

      Bias and propaganda by omission .

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    • NameNotNumber says:

      G, I remember, the I-Paper, in the run-up to the US election, featuring a massive front page headline ‘TRUMP FINISHED’ – surely must come close to your Montague fake news example (but perhaps not better)!

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    • JamesArthur says:

      We all know that more ‘religion’ on the BBC means an excuse to promote Islam -which in my mind gets too much voice as it is.
      I have said before – I am not religious but I am a Christian in values – the very values that made the UK a place people wanted to come to, the same UK, thanks to the like of the BBC, that is quickly becoming a place where everyone wanted to leave to come here.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      G, “Ah, when I leave R4 I will have fond memories of Sarah Montague slipping in that Hilary Clinton is to be the next POTUS. That was 7/10 days before the election………………….That’s real ‘Fake News’ for you, a better example you will not find.”

      Maybe that is why the Democrats and snowflakes were so upset. They had paid loadsamoney, or something similar – sold their souls, maybe, to someone who had promised to fix it for Hillary to win.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    Activist on BBCWomansHour
    “poverty is now spanning right across the socio-economic groups”
    ……….. Really ? ..like middle-class and rich people
    Stupid me, I thought poverty was a poor person thing.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Ask these three questions:
      1) Compare to what?
      2) At what cost?
      3) What hard evidence do you have?

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    • StewGreen says:

      janegarvey : “Procter and Gamble make $64billion profit”
      No it’s TURNOVER
      Should we be surprised that #BiasedBBC’s @janegarvey1 of @BBCWomansHour
      doesn’t know the difference between profit & TURNOVER
      Wikipedia
      2016 Revenue US$65.29 billion
      Operating income US$13.44 billion

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  48. StewGreen says:

    Amazon UK has withdrawn an infant circumcision training kit

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    • MarkyMark says:

      FGM does not exist. It’s actually called Child Genital Mutilation. FGM hides MGM. MGM hides FGM.

      “Christopher I’ve gotta call you down on referring to circumcision as genital mutilation. My son cried more at his first haircut than he did at his Bris (Circumcision is an initiation rite for Jewish newborn babies) (Crowd laughs.)” – Rabbi
      “They weren’t doing it right then (Crowd laughs).” – Christopher Hitchens
      “Statistically the only long term effect, that it seems to have on people (no longer using baby as term) it increases their chances of winning a Nobel Prize. (Crowd laughs/claps)” – Rabbi
      “I can’t find the compulsory mutilation of the genitals of children as a subject in humour that way. … ”

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    • Dystopian says:

      I wonder if FGM training kits are also withdrawn.

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