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  1. Oaknash says:

    Dover – I am sure I heard on BBC “News” today that the internal structure of the Grenfell Tower was somewhat akin to the Tardis and housed over 1 million inhabitants. Of course they all disappeared immediately after the fire because they had real concerns that “Far Right” politician Nigel Farage would try and burn them all out again. Hopefully they should all be able to claim their new flat and benefits before xmas.


  2. Dover Sentry says:

    Indeed, Oaknash.

    The devil is in the detail. What does the word ‘affected mean’? Any illegal who could say that he was ‘upset’ although living in Manchester

    “”Those affected by the 14 June fire will be granted indefinite leave to remain in Britain as the Government extends its offer””


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Given that no-one knows who was illegally subletting in Grenfell, how do the authorities propose to decide which of our wonderful undocumented migrants will now be given permanent residence?


    • Oaknash says:

      Dover -I am afraid this is all par for the course for the current Government. They do not seem to know the meaning of the words “public service” and “honest Government”

      They say they want to reduce illegal migration yet the seem to be looking for any excuse not to slow it down. I know a lad from Essex he said for years Tilbury was used by illegals as the gateway to the UK yet little was ever done to stop it happening.
      Where are the plans for more UK Border staff or more patrol boats, Why do we not check NI numbers before they can access services. I know that the ECJ has made some ruling that we have to treat these chancers but do we really have to roll over quite so easily! – Instead the Government agencies just bleat – Oh theres too many to send home now! If we were truly intending to leave the EU would we really care a toss what the ECJ thinks about us?

      Its the same with brexit. We voted to leave the EU and what do we get – a remainer PM with a cabinet where the 2 most influential jobs are given to remainers. First we are told that there will be a further period of transition and Spreadsheet Phallus (or whatever her name was) Said she does not want spend any money on looking at alternative options in case we dont get to stay in the “open market”. You just as may well say to all these Eurotwats that we will be staying come what may and would you like some more money Mr Junker – Sir?

      I am afraid we now have in a effect a socialist Government . And the more the BBC berates it, the further left it has become.
      It would be nice to think that Theresa and Pals would remember they were still public servants and do the jobs we elected them for, but I am afraid they see themselves as a patrician ruling class and whilst paying lip service to public service in all truth they are ignoring our votes and are more interested in carrying out the wishes of George Soros or similar rather than the people who pay their wages.. I expect they hope to keep us all quiet until the demographic changes then “bingo” 3rd world nation here we come with all its vibrant enriching values.

      I am afraid we are ruled by a whole generation of political cowards. We seem to have lost the meaning of democracy somewhere between Blair and Cameron. And as another poster said we are reaching the point now where the survival of our culture probably depends on some sort of coup happening.

      Both sad and dangerous and thanks almost entirely to a political class composed of weaklings, cowards and utter shits..


  3. taffman says:

    Breaking news latest poll 74% !
    “Poll by @SkyData suggests 74% of people think no Brexit deal is better than a bad deal while 26% think any deal would be better than no deal.”
    Will Al Beeb cover that ? Maxi do you think that Sky are pro-Brexit biased ?
    Maxi, Maxi………. ?


  4. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Meanwhile the Islamification of England continues at an increasingly accelerated pace.

    A piece of news that doesn’t seem to have made the mainstream media news.

    In early September of this year an Islamic Charity “Markaz – El -Tathgheef – El – Eslami” bought the Golders Green Hippodrome saying it wanted to turn it into an Islamic Centre, an Islamic School and a Mosque. It will become a focus of the Shia Muslim community in London. They hope to bring Allah to this area of London.



    • MarkyMark says:

      Regulator (Charity Commission) opens inquiry into Islamic charity (Centre for Islamic Enlightening) over financial links to TV station (Ahlebait TV Network – Islamic TV) {thirdsector.co.uk jul2014}

      The London-based Markaz – El Tathgheef – El Eslami, also known as the Centre for Islamic Enlightening, has among its objects the advancement of Islam, educating the public about the religion and the provision of recreation facilities for Muslims. It registered with the commission in 1989 and had an income of £48,808 in the year to the end of September 2012.

      Last week, Hany El-Banna, chair of the Muslim Charities Forum, said that the commission’s new policy of naming all charities that were the subject of statutory inquiries should be reversed for the sake of Muslim and non-Muslim charities alike.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:


      Wot no objection from the Golders Green Jewish community regarding Islamic takeover? When the inevitable harassment of local Jews starts kicking in watch the media go into overdrive-blaming phantom right-wing extremists. No one will suspect the Muzzies.

      Golders Green:
      It was historically part of Middlesex, and formed part of the Municipal Borough of Hendon until 1965. In the early 20th century it grew rapidly in response to the opening of a tube station of the London Underground, adjacent to the Golders Green Hippodrome which was home to the BBC Concert Orchestra for many years. The area has a wide variety of housing and a busy main shopping street, Golders Green Road.

      It is known for its large Jewish population as well as for being home to the largest Jewish kosher hub (located west of Hoop Lane after the rail bridge) in the United Kingdom, which attracts many Jewish tourists.



      • G.W.F. says:

        Lucy Pevensey

        I have mentioned several times here how the Jewish Board of Deputies side with Moslems against far right extremists like Tommy Robinson.
        It seems that Jews, like Christians, need to sort their leaders out


  5. MarkyMark says:

    Eminem attacks Trump in freestyle rap at BET Hip Hop Awards {bbc.co.uk 11oct2017}
    Last year he released the nine-minute freestyle Campaign Speech in which he calls the president a “loose cannon” who “doesn’t have to answer to no-one”.

    … Eminem misunderstood? …

    The counterclaim said the Matherses have been separated since Eminem’s arrest June 4 outside a Warren, Mich., nightclub, where police say he used an unloaded pistol to beat a man his wife kissed in the parking lot.

    Since then, the claim alleges Eminem has “threatened to … evict her from the marital home and leave her penniless.”

    Eminem also is being sued by his mother, Deborah Mathers-Briggs, who is seeking a total of $11 million in two defamation lawsuits.


  6. theisland says:

    Our ‘Government’ has downgraded Donald Trump’s state visit to the UK.
    He will not go to Buckingham Palace for dinner, nor stay there.
    I hope HM meets him anyway to show her disgust for our so-called politicians (and the Beeb).


  7. Beeb Brother says:

    BBC sport have travelled across the USA to record ‘On Bended Knee’, a race-baiting extravaganza to be broadcast on Five Live. I feel so proud of our intrepid reporters, nobly having a free holiday across America. You can be sure they will make it a thorough road trip and interview players from across the continent.

    There will be the perfunctory interviews with those who support Trump, but the emotional focus will be on isolated tales of ‘Police brutality’ and the Beeb’s trademark focus on narrative over facts. The obscene numbers of black men killed by other black men and the risks the Police take to protect them will be ignored.

    The riots after a black man was killed in East London are inevitable with the Beeb stirring things up like this.

    Why not tour Northern cities and ask white working class girls if they have ever experienced racism or incompetent Police officers?


    • RJ says:

      “Why not tour Northern cities and ask white working class girls if they have ever experienced racism or incompetent Police officers?”

      They don’t have to go to the North. They’ll find the story in any large town in England they care to visit..


  8. Guest Who says:

    Doubtless his own as far as his employers are concerned, but he does have a lot of views in a singular direction:


  9. Anders Thomasson says:

    The White Widow (hopefully) blown to bits, place your bets on the BBC angle. “Was her 12 year old son killed?”… “The evil Trump and his drones”… long screeds on how terrible it is being a muslim in the UK in 2017. Anything but “Just rejoice at that news”.


  10. MarkyMark says:

    There are no genders … until you need children and a future civilisation.

    Time to decide.


    • RJ says:

      Evan Davis has competition the next time they cast Gollum.


    • taffman says:

      A man who thinks he is a woman copulates with a woman who thinks she is a man. Simples !


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      It’s teribly sad. This is clearly a person who needs mental help, yet the lawyers encourage her delusions for the sake of a few legally aided pounds. We think we are so superior to past generations, but human nature does not change, and it is easy to find madness and moral corruption if you only take the trouble to look.


      • Oaknash says:

        Agreed Rob – We seem to have leaders and a media who want to legislate that “madness and moral corruption” become the new norm. Strange days indeed.


      • Fedup2 says:

        For lawyer don’t read justice – read cash . They creamed the criminal legal aid system but that’s now been cut, tried it on employment tribunals – gone, always try it on with people sitting in their cells trying to find another way to screw the state and now going into Genda stuff as well as old faithfuls like medical negligence but the medics are pretty good at covering those up.


  11. Sluff says:

    I wonder whether there is a link between very rich Hollywood actresses staying silent for years about Harvey Weinstein’s activities, the said Weinstein’s very large donations to the Democratic Party, and the apparent reluctance of the BBC to investigate with the same fervour with which they report every aspect of Trump’s presidency?


    • JimS says:

      Mark Steyn has a way with words – “well, you can’t make a “Hamlet” without breaking a few chicks”.

      Well if we didn’t know it before we know it now, those Hollywood ‘luvies’ have no moral right to lecture the plebs. Zip it Dame Judi.


  12. BRISSLES says:

    Listened to an intelligent response by a female film producer today re the Weinstein debacle. When asked why he wasn’t brought to book years ago when reports were first made of his behaviour, she said ‘who was there to report him to ?’. So true. Like Saville and that other fat and sweaty abuser Cyril Smith. Although Saville and Smith targeted children, how many times were they reported by their victims but nothing was done – because no-one could believe it. They had power and those in authority were in awe of them. With Weinstein there was no-one above him, and if his victims reported him to the police/journalists/the studio, there was a gaggle of lawyers to discredit the accusation and slap law suits like confetti. His victims were in a no-win situation, as there was no-one to complain to. There is no saving grace to this, thankfully no children involved (thus far), but no doubt the young women raped or assaulted were only just the right side of legal age.


    • StewGreen says:

      Right now in a discussion with LibMob about the obsession with this Hollywood case I am told I’m not allowed to mention the grooming gang cases or 1 million illegal immigrant news story.
      … thus we back to * INTIMIDATION for fear of being called something * like “racist” that stops sex abuse victims/professionals reporting cases in the first place.


  13. Lucy Pevensey says:

    How to get rid of the UN (Bizarre)
    5 killed as ‘blood-sucking vampire’ scare lynchings prompt UN withdrawals in Malawi


  14. wronged says:

    Harvey Weinstein plied his trade in the wrong town, had he plied his trade in Rochdale instead of Hollywood he could have sexually abused 1,400 children and got away with it. Nobody in Rochdale was ever sacked so he would have kept his job as well.


  15. StewGreen says:

    LibMob’s tribalism & intolerance is exactly akin to racism
    Yet they look to shout “racist” to close any discussion down.

    I imagine in Islington signs say
    .. No Dogs
    .. No Tories
    .. No Brexiteers
    .. No Friends of Israel
    .. No Trump Supporters



    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, + no Diesel Car owners?


    • Cranmer says:

      Stew, they don’t openly say that but in my experience most London flatsharers hold an informal interview with potential new tenants, to assess their political/social views. It happened to me a couple of times in the 90s and I imagine still goes on now, in fact is probably more prevalent post-Brexit. A quick look at some ads on Gumtree reveals a ‘gay flatshare’, ‘artistic and open-minded flatshare’ , ‘all female flatshare’ ‘room in Muslim family house for non-drinking individual’ all of which I suspect are codewords, and in one case there is an ad for a ‘Single room for Muslim’ which I would have thought is illegal.


  16. taffman says:

    Anyone know anything about this lot? – the Football Lads Alliance.
    Nothing on Al Beeb, is this censorship in action?
    How about you maxincony?


    • Rich says:


      I think that it’s a bit early to say although Charles Sale referred to them as ‘extreme right-wing’ in the Mail a couple of days ago which I thought was a bit much. There doesn’t seem to be any proof of this at all.

      In two pretty large demonstrations that I know of there has been no violence, no arrests and no reports of any behaviour that you or I would consider right-wing, you know, like in Madrid at the minute.
      They appear to be football supporters who are male, predominantly white, although not exclusively, and who probably consider themselves working class, gathered from all across Britain. They claim, I would have thought rather admirably, to be against extremism of all kinds.

      The Bbbc can’t identify anything to discredit them with yet, although Tommy Robinson was part of the last march,as a reporter, and Antifa had a counter demonstration so obviously they’re Nazis and no doubt the Bbbc coverage will start as soon as a Spurs fan mentions the Yid army or a Hartlepool fan threatens to hang a monkey.

      I think the Bbbc are a bit confused by them, maybe even a little frightened, they don’t seem as easy to pigeonhole as they would like.
      I also think they’ll grow and don’t, at the minute, see that as a bad thing at all.

      I found an article about them by Brendan O’Neill in the Spectator while this was uploading, it articulates more fully what I’m saying. Worth a read.


      • taffman says:

        (Diolch) Thanks!


        • Rich says:

          Yer dead on Taff.

          (That is no problem whatsoever, you are more than welcome and I hope this information proves to be of benefit to you) Norn Iron.


          • taffman says:

            “Shwmae” Hi there Paddy 😉


            • Cranmer says:

              There’s an article on the far-left Searchlight website about the FLA (I don’t want to link to it here but it’s easily found on Google.) They seem slightly puzzled about the whole thing, unable to find any real evidence of it being racist or ‘far right’ but scratching their heads thinking there must be something they are missing. At the end of the article it is written ‘Some in the antiracist movement argue that it’s best just to ignore the FLA and it will go away.’ I suspect that is probably the more ‘moderate’ BBC view.


    • joeadamsmith says:

      There was this youtube video, taffman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8d6DhS7Hrw


  17. taffman says:

    Can’t find nowt on Al Beeb about this yet ?
    “British Isis recruiter Sally Jones ‘killed by drone strike in Syria”
    Maxi ! wake up your team .


  18. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    With regard to Harvey Weinstein all we have so far are one sided claims and allegations.

    In the future it may be that a man can never approach a woman without it being called sexual harassment at a later date.

    The woman is taught this is sexual harassment – and so screams sexual harassment when a man tries to approach her.

    The only solution perhaps is to convert to Islam and have liaisons between grown men and grown women strictly controlled and agreed ahead of time.

    The publicity associated with this has gone way beyond anything that happened with the Bill Cosby allegations which was largely muted until it got to court.

    The publicity associated with this has been hugely taken out of all proportion by feminist activist seeking to change society further – who claim this is just another instance of white patriarchy that needs to be driven out from society.


  19. taffman says:

    Time to make a swift exit from the EU. – Europe cannot defend its borders !
    Time to get out before we get “swarmed” ……………………


  20. wronged says:

    ‘Swarm’ was the only thing that Cameron the spineless traitor said was true and accurate. I can see why Harman criticised the comment as she does not like honesty. ‘Flooded’ would have been a better term as they’re coming across the sea.


  21. Lucy Pevensey says:

    A tourist has died after falling more than 100 feet from inside the dome of St Paul’s Cathedral.
    The woman fell from the Whispering Gallery to the Cathedral floor as visitors watched on.
    The incident, which is not being treated as suspicious by police, happened on Wednesday at 10.30am.


    • Clare says:

      So now I suppose there’ll be demands for safety nets and caging in of the gallery to prevent a recurrence?


      • MarkyMark says:

        Life and death in Apple’s forbidden city {theguardian 18jun2017}
        “In an extract from his new book, Brian Merchant reveals how he gained access to Longhua, the vast complex where iPhones are made and where, in 2010, unhappy workers started killing themselves”

        “In 2012, 150 workers gathered on a rooftop and threatened to jump. They were promised improvements and talked down by management; they had, essentially, wielded the threat of killing themselves as a bargaining tool.”

        ‘And, yes, the body-catching nets are still there. Limp and sagging, they give the impression of tarps that have half blown off the things they’re supposed to cover. I think of Xu, who said: “The nets are pointless. If somebody wants to commit suicide, they will do it.”’

        – ‘body-catching’ suggests it’s a body and not a person. Who writes this stuff? Suicide prevention nets? Grooming Gang? 3 Girls?


      • charmbrights says:

        Not a problem – it will be closed either
        a) by the police as a possible crime scene, or
        b) by the elfinsafety department lest it happen again.

        Of course it won’t happen under a Labour Government as they will repeal the Gravity Act.


  22. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Rewriting European History?

    Researchers in Sweden are unearthing evidence to suggest Swedish Vikings were in fact Muslims – claiming that patterns woven into their clothing spelt Allah:
    BBC Headline Why did Vikings have ‘Allah’ embroidered into funeral clothes?

    Alternately this could be a case of seeing things in complex patterns that aren’t there – like in Rorschach test. Or perhaps Muslim merchants from Spain did trade, selling fabrics up north.

    So who wrote this article? Tharik Hussain is a London-based freelance journalist, travel writer and broadcaster who specialises in Muslim heritage.


  23. Beeb Brother says:

    The sports bulletin on Radio 4 this morning was about the women’s Champions League, even though 99% plus of both men and women could not care less. A study of most Googled terms would tell you, but it’s as obvious as the grass being green. Why not give the people what they want, or is that the outmoded view of a horrible ‘Little Englander’?

    More of their obsession with ‘diversity.’ What definite evidence do they even have that diversity is so fantastic? Our country is more diverse than ever, yet the events of this year have been somewhat disheartening.

    Still, ‘diversity’ sounds cool and like it could be right so that’s ok.

    “O what a goodly outside falsehood has,
    The devil can cite scripture for his purpose.”
    The Merchant of Venice.


  24. Englands Dreaming says:

    Always interesting what the Beeb decides to put on the homepage of the website. Today we are treated to:

    Why did Vikings have ‘Allah’ embroidered into funeral clothes?

    And the re-writing of history continues in order to conform with the Beeb’s contemporary multi-Cult narrative.
    It is now so boringly blatant.


  25. Clare says:

    Not the BBC, but SKY this morning. Interview with Steve Hargrave (entertainment journalist often seen on both the BBC and SKY) about the Weinstein scandal.

    Hargrave being very brave, now that it is out in the open, describing him as a very unpleasant man and a bully.

    What really grated with me, though, was a comment towards the end about “white men” in this position.

    Can you imagine anyone in the MSM generalising about black or brown men acting badly towards women? Not exactly pure as the driven snow, are they?


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Sounds like the media are being restrained. I bet there’s a lot of them who want to make comments about “white Jewish men” in this position… Also, imagine if his alleged activities had been of a homosexual nature: we would then be seeing items on the BBC entitled ‘Did homophobia in Hollywood cause this to happen?’ etc.


      • Beeb Brother says:

        Snoop Dogg’s first album is a feminist classic.

        “I deck bitches on the street
        And punch them in the eye.”


      • Doublethinker says:

        I don’t follow this story closely so I am unsure who this Weinstein chap is or exactly what he is alleged to have done but I did pick up that he was a friend of the Clinton’s and major donor to the Democratic Party. These latter points indicate ,to any fair minded person, that he is likely to be a sexual predator and a liar who will seek to use his power and influence to undermine the case against him, bribe people to commit perjury, threaten those who refuse and call in past favours from people of influence. If he isn’t a Democrat donor or not a special friend of the Clintons then I take it all back.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Obama’s fragrant Wife described him as a “ wonderful human being “- no one has the monopoly on virtue . President Trump must be amused by the whole thing even when he’s got real issues like fires, hurricanes Islamic terrorism and the North Koreans to deal with.

          The news agenda is pretty sick isn’t it? The Vegas shootings are history already – except for those who are gone and those still suffering. I hate the vicarious grieving “thoughts are with stuff” of 24 hour tv coverage .


    • Beeb Brother says:

      I am sick of anti white racism.

      Having decided racism is a terrible thing they then revamp it.


  26. Guest Who says:

    BBC fave freelancer is again offering up ‘facts’, BBC style, with certain bits that don’t suit edited out.

    I liked this in the replies:


  27. MarkyMark says:


  28. Beeb Brother says:

    Beeb reports on bullying in the Paralympics swimming team, aren’t they virtuous?

    Do they ever consider that such claims may be spurious, and that by giving them such publicity they will encourage others to bring baseless claims? Perhaps the claimants were emboldened by Aluko’s £80k payout on the basis of a single flippant and conveniently misinterpreted comment?


  29. Up2snuff says:

    After a day or two away, I return and find everything has changed: Boris is off the hook at the BBC. They have now turned their fire on Philip Hammond to try and undermine him or get the PM to sack her Chancellor.

    Unelected 21st Century BBC: trying to run the Government.


  30. Fedup2 says:

    Liam Fox was meant to be the 0810 entertainment for beeboids today. He found something better to do – which isn’t difficult . I wish more right wingers would swerve al Beeb because unless they go on the offensive against the journo and al Beeb itself they will always be undermined by humph, meeshallll, Robinson et al jumping in before a decent answer has been give.

    I don’t like tax and I don’t like governments spending my money but … if it takes cash to pay for a no deal Brexit I would be content to pay that tax. We could then tax Eu tourists coming to uk for a free ride on museums and galleries which should be charged like their places are -.


    • MarkyMark says:

      ‘free ride on museums’ or ‘free ride into museums’? Uber – paying for the cars that will attack us.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fedup2, I laughed out loud at your opening line. I thought you didn’t like that sort of thing on here?


      I shall retreat meekly while covering myself in sackcloth and ashes.


  31. Guest Who says:

    BBC priorities do impress:

    1. A dead snail.

    2. Coming out day.

    3. A rapper is rude.

    Educating and informing. Uniquely.


    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC Entertainment news 12oct2017 ….

      Affleck apologises for ‘groping’ MTV host
      – watch as male and female actors are forced to come forward before the victims do, the race is on . . . tick tock . . .

      Eminem attacks Trump in freestyle rap at awards ceremony
      – rapper who has mistreated women raps about business man who is president who was caught bragging like a bloke

      Love Island’s Chris Hughes reveals bottled water prank
      – role model for children of the future sells his tears and knows nothing of the real world. This is a free advert “water infused with Chris Hughes’ tears” … no BBC books to promote today?


  32. JamesArthur says:

    R4… Another good start….talking to Philip Glass , who sounded like a very nice interesting man (American) about his new music for Jane Goodall film. Right at the very end – out of all context the interviewer throws in a question on American politics allowing Glass to describe Trump as a failed presidency…Methinks they already knew his views and if he was a Trump fan wouldn’t have bothered…
    Next up.. Brexit….on how all the planes could stop flying and queues a mile long at ports – all pointless speculation painting a negative side….
    Is is not possible for the BBC to paint some good pictures no matter how absurd THEY might think it is , especially as they can constantly paint absurd negative ones…


    • Up2snuff says:

      We already have places & processes in place for the bulk of the world’s population and their goods.* Think there are 205 nations in the world. Take away 27 = 178. 27/178 = 15%.

      Suggests queues at ports & airports might be longer but not massively longer.

      (* Am aware that a rather disproportionate number of visitors & products come from EU but some of the suggested future shortcomings & problems do have a strong whiff of Project Fear of 2015/16.)


  33. MarkyMark says:

    Soft no-Brexit or Hard no-Brexit?

    Can we have a referendum on the result no-Brexit please?

    No no-Brexit deal?
    Maybe no-Brexit deal?


    • gaxvil says:

      Is anyone surprised that May is useless and the EU is obstructive and petty.
      I guess the Tories are confident that we”ll join them and vote for them because the alternative is so dire.
      They’ll screw around and continue to dilute Brexit, hoping to capture the would be Labour voters – good plan eh?


      • Thoughtful says:

        Like they thought last time? Remind me how did that pan out for them? AS I recall May lost the election completely allowing Labour into power, and was only bailed out by Ruth Davidson gaining 12 seats, and the DUP !

        Don’t ever think May won, because she didn’t.


        • gaxvil says:

          Old governments do become sloppy, careless and divided and with May at the helm they are certainly on that course.


          • Up2snuff says:

            gaxvil, the conservative Govt is really a new one, only two and a bit years old if you go back to 2015. Thanks to June’s disaster, they cannot really be accused of mid-term jitters. Theresa May made a bold move this summer in keeping most of her Cabinet in place.

            I think it is the Alt-Left segment of the media who are moaning and wanting a Cabinet change on the basis that all the disruption that would follow would not help either a recovery from June 2017 or the Brexit Negotiations. Then, with even more chaos, it would be possible to upgrade the clamour for an early General Election to near total hysteria.

            The temptation for the PM & Cabinet now will be to get silly with peripheral matters that do not really make a substantial positive difference to peoples’ lives (remember the Major ‘traffic cone hotline’ and his ‘Back to Basics’ campaign?) like banning ivory sales. Such things should be resisted by the PM & Cabinet. They have enough to do as it is.


  34. Alex says:

    Unbelievable lefty bias on Victoria Derbyshire at the moment. It is an unbridled Labour love-in. And this following Kirsty Squawk on Newshite last night. The BBC are completely out of control and are now a megaphone for Jeremy Corbyn. They are a f****** disgrace.


  35. gaxvil says:

    American organization ‘Dysfunctional Veterans’ their strap-line:- ‘Kinda busy today so if you could go ahead and offend yourself for me I’d be obliged’.


  36. gaxvil says:

    See the license debate pushed to 20/11 at 4:30 – how odd?


  37. Thoughtful says:

    Very interesting that Cara Delavigne has now thought it’s all OK and safe to call out Weinstein.

    Weinstein has been photographed with ‘Hilary’, and contributes a lot of money to the Democrats, he’s definitely ‘inside the tent’.

    Contrast this with the speed and the virulence which they criticise those who aren’t, one of ‘us’

    It’s not OK to criticise one of their own, and now we can all see just what the Hypocritical Fascists of the Left are really like.


  38. MarkyMark says:

    Oh dear … went to #LondonIsOpen and found this …. scary ….

    “NO REG:✔️,Helmet✔️,Bike Clothing ✔️,Covering faces✔️. Welcome to Greater London #LondonIsOpen 4 Bike Crime ! Enough is Enough @SadiqKhan


  39. Thoughtful says:

    One of the posting clients I have been forced to use recently is ‘Disqus’ I have had posts instantly deleted and finally narrowed down the reason why.

    Any mention of the word ‘Saudi’ and the deletion occurs. Why this should be is beyond me, but the company appears to be incommunicado to its users and cannot be asked to comment.

    When criticism of a country which certainly deserves it is banned, then you know something has gone very wrong. I suspect that there has been investment of Saudi money into the company and that has come with the condition that criticism is banned.


    • Clare says:

      “Any mention of the word ‘Saudi’ and the deletion occurs.”

      “To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.”


      • G says:

        ““To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.”” Oh dear………that means islam is already ruling over us……………………..


    • MarkyMark says:

      Did you try different approaches?

      “Saudi Arabia is fantastic for allowing women to drive!”

      “Saudi Arabia is the biggest misogynist country in the World, it gets praise for doing what it should have done years ago and takes credit for allowing women to drive. Note that it is men that have allowed it to happen – women didn’t choose or fight for this. No Rosa Parks for Saudi women!”


  40. gaxvil says:

    And bbc trumpets it’s now illegal in India to have sex with your underage child bride.
    A space program, nuclear weapons and now this!
    We could sure learn a lot from these countries if we weren’t such racists


  41. Thoughtful says:

    Readers might like to learn what the BBC and other media outlets won’t tell them about the reasons why Burma is expelling Muslims from its country – something which Saudi has done with Pakistanis, but which the media decided they weren’t going to report on.

    BTW if these countries can do it what’s stopping Europe?


    Here is the reason or one of them aside from the child rapes (now where’ve I heard that happening before?) Proving that there is a good reason why Myanmar doesn’t want a murderous backwards child raping religion in its country. Maybe the BBC are afraid the people will actually sympathise with the Burmese Buddhists ?


  42. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    We know this but it’s good that the others are becoming aware of it.



  43. NISA says:

    Rather vague reporting on the upcoming Austrian elections on the World Service this morning. The BBC reported on the possibility of 31 year old conservative Sebastian Kurz becoming “leader”. Without mention that the election was actually for the legislature, I wondered if the election was for president. In fact the BBC did refer to Kurz as potential head of state at one point. Were the BBC searching for the word “führer”?


  44. MarkyMark says:

    The nation is tiring of Boris’s vainglorious act
    Readers respond to the foreign secretary’s (Boris Johnson) latest poorly though-out Brexit intervention {theguardian 18oct2017}

    vainglorious = excessively proud of oneself or one’s achievements; overly vain.

    – ‘though-out’ = should this be ‘thought-out’?


  45. MarkyMark says:

    Just reading 1984 …

    “He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

    – “the struggle was finished”!
    – When you tire of mocking and fighting, that is the end of freedom of speech.
    – When you mind tires of thinking a different thought, that is the end of freedom of thought.

    – The struggle was finished. He believed everything that the BBC wrote. He was free not to think!


    • Beeb Brother says:

      I read that again recently and it is terrifyingly accurate. Two parts really stuck in my mind.

      “The heresy of heresies was common sense.”

      Men and women are not the same; all cultures are not equal. These things are obvious to anyone with functioning brain cells but to point it out could land you in prison.

      Also is there a scene where they are protesting against their enemy Eurasia when suddenly the enemy changes, and they all just protest a new enemy and carry on as if nothing has happened? How could the authorities in Rotherham see with their own eyes what horrors were unfolding yet still go into work the next day and hold seminars on the glories of diversity, sacking anyone who dared question the patently rotten ideology?

      I have just moved ‘1984’ from my fiction to my non fiction shelf.


    • Deborahanother says:

      In a way that’s a bit how I feel Marky

      I stopped listening to any of the propagana media and feel strangely calm about things.However I’m not in the Big Brother acceptance love the BBC mode yet .I still care very much about the future I just refuse to be ground down by the daily war of attrition spewed out of media.

      Even the Weinstein thing has a whiff of virtue signalling with the luvvies jumping on the bandwagon..VD yesterday had a guest who used it as an opportunity to bash Fox News rather than Hollywood liberals.Nothing will change unless we force it.
      We continue to go to see their rubbish films where women are repeatedly raped ,abused ,beaten etc but oh so subtly these days.

      We have the consumer power and I have started using it.


  46. MarkyMark says:

    “Britain needs to negotiate a Brexit deal that puts our economy and living standards first. That won’t be achieved by empty slogans and posturing.We cannot put at risk our links with our largest trading partner. Instead we need a jobs-first Brexit that allows us to upgrade our economy for the 21st century.”

    … Labour Manifesto ends with …

    “Let’s build a Britain that works for the many (who are these people?), not the few (who are these people?) .”

    – “That won’t be achieved by empty slogans and posturing.” – Labour Manifesto, Jeremy Corbyn


  47. Beeb Brother says:

    WATO: Reporting Barnier’s scheming obstructiveness as if it is holy writ and doing down our leaders. Don’t they understand how doing a deal works? Probably not as they rely on free money.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’ve been thinking that every day which passes without developments in the discussions is a good day… however I m starting to think that it’s a conspiracy to get the leaving process extended to infinity. We ll never get out.

      Hmg should have planned and if necessary published a no deal post Brexit contingency down to the need for visas for EU citizens / to start talking about it now is inept – whatever the political colour. Perhaps the civil service is torpedoing this because they won’t be getting EU jobs and pensions now.


      • Beeb Brother says:

        Of course the other person says 100, you say 20, they suggest 80 and you say how hard that is going to be. It’s all bluff and double bluff. The Beeb should stay out of it, and they certainly should not be helping our adversaries.


  48. Beeb Brother says:

    I see Panorama is all about ‘hate crime.’

    I wonder if it is all about those unfortunate to wander into Islamic no-go zones?


  49. MarkyMark says:

    ‘Allah’ (but no ‘Akbar’) makes it onto the BBC homepage 12oct2017 …

    British IS recruiter Sally-Anne Jones ‘killed’ by drone
    – remind me what IS stands for who which is spreading this ideology that is destroying the world? Islamic State? Islam? Allah?

    Barnier: Not enough progress in Brexit talks

    Why did Vikings have ‘Allah’ embroidered into clothes?{bbc.co.uk – 12oct2017}
    – “might just have been copied wrongly from something that was”
    – “therefore there is a slim possibility it has some connection to very early, extreme, mystical fringe movements who believed in this”
    – “But more likely it is a wrongly copied pattern.”
    – “Now that I am looking at Viking patterns differently, I am convinced I will find more Islamic inscriptions in the remaining fragments from these excavations, and other Viking era textiles.”

    – Pattern found, might be Allah might not. Words used might, wrongly, slim possibility, wrongly.
    – Needs independent verifying. BBC title is misleading.

    – BBC try this “Pattern found with a slim possible link to Allah in Viking material?”


  50. Fedup2 says:

    Marky ,
    It’s a pity the yanks can’t send her family a bill for the predator missile . What great news. We are spared all those daytime tv interviews about” how I saw the light” and escaped from nasty Isis.


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