484 Responses to START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…

  1. StewGreen says:

    In a letter to The Times today, a number of prominent BAME activists – including former deputy mayor of London Munira Mirza – hit back at the government’s “crude and tendentious” approach to the issue, saying the policies could “harm the very communities they aspire to help”.

    “All too often statistics are misused in a way that casts minorities as victims of racism and ‘white privilege’,” the letter reads.

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    • Deborahanother says:

      Very true Stew .Some sane voices among the usual race hustlers.
      Statistics can be used any way you choose when there is no context. For example ,where I live schools are 90% black. So it stands to reason that in my areas more black boys than whites will be excluded.There are very few whites in my local schools .
      Its not surprising to anyone with a brain Chinese do better at school than any ethnic group. Good luck to them.

      These reports just make the politicians and Media feel good. The rest of us know what the deal is as we live on the front line.

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  2. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    CBBC channel for kids. Lead news story. BBC talks to 15 year old Shaneil who tells them what needs to be done to overcome endemic racism in Britain, that has blighted her life and blights her life opportunities.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/news
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/41564644

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    • Doublethinker says:

      My advice to people who believe that Britain is endemically racist, You Are Free to Leave.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    France : masked gunmen burst into house of TV gardener and his disabled wife.
    .. He keeps a loaded rifle
    80K have signed petition against him being charged for murder.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    BBC insist that women wear the headscarf of their own free choice for empowerment.
    Contradicted by news of Iranian chess champ kicked off Iranian National team for refusing to west headscarf.
    She’s defected to US

       29 likes

  5. StewGreen says:

    BuzzfeedUK seems almost like a div-ision of Guardian/BBC group
    And the divs are copying the Guardian style in that on £20m turnover it’s made a £3.3m loss.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Jimbo could teach them a thing or two about fact checking, having headed up the BBC unfit.

         4 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        James Harding, Director of News and Current Affairs BBC

        Salary: £340,000 // Pension: £340,000

        Mr James // Harding Hotels Room Istanbul 17/10/2016 £111.94

        James Harding Hotels Hotel 08/11/2016 // Dylan Hotel New York // £4.61

        £4.61 – couldn’t BBC’s James Harding have used some of his own money rather than the TV Tax Payers, paid under threat of prison, who is on £340K

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Well Marky,
          I’ve been down me bookies and put a fiver on that amyl nitrate fella to be a shoo in for the job – al Beeb will want someone dusky with a foreign background and also perhaps a skirt . . There are no counting skills required so maybe ms Abbot May leave Corbin bed and take up the job before moving her bottom to a bench in the upper chamber . She’d fit in well – with a squeeze.

          Or that narrgga one or the job creation girl off of the Toady show with the headscarf and cultivated English accent.

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          • Loobyloo says:

            Do you mean Amol Rajan, author of this disgusting viewpoint, full of unsubstantiated claims and his own opinions?
            http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41558556
            Weinstein and the media’s shame –
            ‘It is hard not to see the allegations against Weinstein in the light of similarly tawdry claims made against the late Fox News boss Roger Ailes, Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly, comedian Bill Cosby, and even the President, Donald Trump, who – we should remind ourselves – stands accused of sexually exploitative behaviour by many women. Those allegations are unproven and Trump denies them.’

            So, a good excuse to remind readers of sexual misconduct allegations related to Fox News and President Trump. The faux outrage is hilarious too – I mean, is anyone really surprised that such a rich guy, in this business, was behaving in this way? Didn’t anyone else watch Californication?

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        • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

          So the BBC’s Director of News & Current Affairs went to Istanbul to touch base with his Islamist associates.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Huffington Post are now stock input for ITV news …. sure I heard it on there last night.

      Another good one is …

      The Canary: Fresh, Fearless Independent Journalism

      Brexit team celebrates achieving no deal on ‘Deal or No Deal’ appearance

      The Tories pledged to help those with mental health issues. New figures reveal the scale of this lie

      Labour has slammed the Tories’ austerity agenda for the most unlikely of reasons

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Agenda ? Surely not from BBC the hypermarket of race baiting
    22:45 pm in aid of Hate Crime Awareness Week, special edition of Panorama
    “Hate on the Street – investigates what is happening on the country’s streets.
    Livvy meets young victims who still bear the physical and emotional scars of attacks and say they had never experienced race hate on this scale before the vote. But she also hears from residents in areas with a high number of reported race hate crimes who say that the race card is being played too easily and that Brexit is being blamed for wider social problems in their community.”

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Here is some visible, on the streets, in your face hate that was ignored by the BBC … for too long …

      “What’s the solution? If Muslim people are in the wrong and they are committing crimes… you know, no one is above the law.” – Stacey Dooley

      “If the law of the land is Islamic, we will respect the law of the land. If it’s not Islamic (the law) then the law of the land, and those who make them, can go to hell quite honestly.” – Anjhem Chordary

      “Oh my God!” – Stacey Dooley

      “Because Allah says in the Koran Q33v1 ‘Fear Allah, and do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Is David Cameron a Muslim of a disbeliever? Guys?” – Anjhem Chordary

      “Disbeliever!” – mumbles crowd of 5 other Muslims

      “So you (a Muslim) can’t obey him. So he (David Cameron) can go to hell.” – Anjhem Chordary

      “Go put on some clothes.”
      – Muslim women wearing black Burqa talks to Stacey, who is wearing a pretty summer dress

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      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        She claims this is Muslim extremism. This is not Muslim extremism – it is basic Islam and written in the Qur’an – all non-believers are destined as fuel in the fires of hell.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          I found a better term … “minority extremist” – someone in a minority group who feels the majority should bend to their own culture or traditional views or new ways of thinking
          using violence if necessary.

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          • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

            Muslims consider themselves to be part of the Umma – the global community of Muslims. An attack on one is an attack on them all. I don’t think the term “minority extremist” works – it’s confusing. Islam is the correct word for it. Islam is not the enlightenment, it is not the height of reason, it is essentially the dogma of a 6th century warlord who required of his followers absolute submission to him. It is what it is but those without any knowledge of Islam represent it as something else.

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            • MarkyMark says:

              Was trying to lump all this stuff under one umbrella. But minority groups are the soft underbelly of the Western World and it’s welfare systems. Don’t look at me hard, I’m a minority … no that’s our culture and we have to practice it … don’t worry we’ll adopt your rules when we get stronger … we are only asking for a small change, and this small change, and this small change and this small change. Ah, come on you gave use 20 small changes why won’t you just adopt Halal food for your prisons and hospitals because there are so many of us. But you said you’re a minority? We are a minority that is just a bit bigger now.

              1. Islam asks for one simple thing. Islam asks for everything – finance, religion, police, morals, schools, law, food, science, clothes, art, your body and your daily routine to be Islamic.

              2. Islam only has two problems – Muhammed and Mohammed. Once the first problem has been solved then the second one can be solved easily.

              3. Islam offers three things. In the Koran it offers Peace, War and then a Continuation of War. In your life Islam wants you to subjugate yourself, subjugate your family and then subjugate everyone else.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Loads of publicity for the campaign
    Any of it about preventing grooming gangs ?

    “Candlelight vigil” are they parodying themselves
    “Sing Kumbaya” as well ?

    And brainwashing for the kids
    “Bee nice while you are being groomed ?”

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Eradicating the word Hate. Equate Hate with Cake. Equate Hate with Crime. If I have a hateful thought it is a crime.

      Hate = Cake
      Hate = Be kind
      Hate = Crime
      Hate = Not Hate
      Hate = Hope
      Hate = ?!?!?!?!?!

      It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn’t only the synonyms; there are also the antonyms. After all, what justification is there for a word, which is simply the opposite of some other word? A word contains its opposite in itself.

      “Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime (hate crime) literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.”

      Hate = Cake
      Hate = Be kind
      Hate = Crime
      Hate = Not Hate
      Hate = Hope
      Hate = ?!?!?!?!?!

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  8. Beeb Brother says:

    The BBC have noted how certain communities are producing more terrorists. They demand these communities either explain this or fix it.

    In a sane world our national broadcaster would behave thus.

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Crime is Crime
    Two wrongs do not make a right.
    The “Hate-Crime” boo-word is Orwellian
    .. Creates a “more equal than others” status

    Fear of being un-PC fuels crime
    It meant Rotherham/Rochdale CSE cases went on 10 years after the whole thing should have stopped.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Words are becoming useless … Grooming Gang; Hope NOT Hate; 3 Girls; Asian; Incident, Zhe instead of him or her.

      When we don’t recognise or relate to the World we live in, then what?

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Consider the word ‘rape’
        Replacing it as follows
        Groom = a man on his wedding day on his best behaviour
        Groom= something done in order to make pets look attractive, also applied to humans.
        Groomer= a professional who makes pets look beatiful
        Rapist= groomer
        Child rapist=groomer
        Gang raping of children= grooming gang

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    • StewGreen says:

      Normally people shout ‘double standard’
      Crimes committed BY minority group = lower priority : there’s no Hate Crime angle.

      Crimes done AGAINST minority groups = Super-Crime, cos the police can book it as “Hate Crime”

      Metro Liberals who rule over us don’t appreciate this.

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  10. BRISSLES says:

    The BBC may be a lot of things, but they sure as hell are forward thinking.

    Who had heard of Susan Calman 6 months ago ? Clearly she was in line as a contestant for this year’s Strictly, so, to up her profile beforehand, slide her neatly in as host for the quiz programme the Boss during BBC1 afternoons.

    Now, I believe I’ve spotted another unknown for next year’s line-up.
    Who has heard of Jay Blades ? ticks BBC boxes, is an ethnic, pronounces ‘nothing’ as nuffink, every other word is ‘cool’, and his claim to fame until the Beeb got hold of him, was to paint chair legs different colours. Now he’s got himself ‘management’, and been shooed in to help present Money for Nothing – although Sarah Moore was quite capable on her own. Also asks his Twitter followers to give him feed back as to whether they enjoyed watching him on the shows ! dear God.

    So, he’s my one to watch for Strictly next year – unless of course Dion Dublin beats him to it !!!!

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    • wronged says:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41572378

      James Harding: BBC’s head of news to leave , -Despite Brexit.

      Good riddance to bad rubbish.

      Another lefty will be lined up

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Brissles
      Where,How,Why do they get these specimens? Answers on a postcard to BBC. Shit Street, Londistan.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        I believe these people have ideas (good), but these ideas go unchallenged (bad).

        “Thomas Sowell – The Vision of the Anointed”

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    • Beltane says:

      I hate to admit it Brissles, but I had heard of Susan Calman 6 months ago. I have had counselling and tried very hard not to think of or picture her, but the fact remains she’s there – only occasionally now, thanks to the medication, but still there, just below the surface. I will be brave.

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  11. Thoughtful says:

    BBC generating fake news yet again.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41567761

    This has been broadcast on the BBC every hour today, and is also on the website blatantly and provably (even in its own article!) lying.

    “Torture survivors win asylum seeker detention ruling”

    First of all they are not necessarily torture survivors, but claiming they are, neither are they asylum seekers, they have failed that and have no realistic chance of their story ever being believed.

    The issue hinges on whether the UK was right to exclude those who claim to have been tortured by third parties not the state. The treaty on asylum requires the state to be the persecutor or to have turned a blind eye to it going on, and therefore in these cases no treaty obligations are engaged, the asylum claim MUST FAIL.

    Here is the proof in the BBC’s own article:

    “A 20-year-old Vietnamese woman, who said she worked from the age of six to pay off her dead parents’ debts with a loan shark. Medical Justice said she was repeatedly beaten with sticks, broken bottles and burned with cigarettes before being trafficked to the UK.”

    So it wasn’t even her who said it! anyone can claim anything to gain asylum – and they frequently do, but if anyone believes this woman is not going to disappear when released from detention they want their bumps feeling. The judge should be made to assist the authorities until each runaway is caught on a menial salary until he gets it through his thick left wing head that people are not as nice & straight as he appears to think!

    Imagine the case where someone from the UK who live on a council estate borrows money from a loan shark and fails to pay it back, and subsequently is tortured as a result, runs away to the USA and claims asylum on these grounds? It’s pretty obvious what would happen, the US authorities would quickly ask why you didn’t go to the Police (and there are loads more of them in Vietnam) to sort it out. You would not be given US citizenship and be quickly returned to the UK

    Then again this all presupposes that there even is a loan shark to begin with and there’s every chance that there isn’t !

    So, in stating torture as a fact when it is anything but, and that they are Asylum Seekers when they have been assessed and failed it is generating fake news again.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Thoughtful: “BBC generating fake news again …

      Fantastic explanation and that is why the BBC would never employ you.

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    • maxincony says:

      Thoughtful,

      BBC generating fake news yet again…

      First of all they are not necessarily torture survivors, but claiming they are, neither are they asylum seekers, they have failed that and have no realistic chance of their story ever being believed.

      This is complete gibberish.

      The issue hinges on whether the UK was right to exclude those who claim to have been tortured by third parties not the state

      That IS NOT the issue. It’s nothing to do to with granting or denying asylum. You literally have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.

      Here is the proof in the BBC’s own article… ‘Medical Justice said she was repeatedly beaten with sticks, broken bottles and burned with cigarettes before being trafficked to the UK.’

      So it wasn’t even her who said it!”…

      ‘Thoughtful’, this level of STUPID is a new low even for you.

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      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Hi maxincony, normally you have a point plus “flourishes” (forms of insult). But in this comment of yours I can’t see your point – all I can see are repudiations. The only thing of substance is the line “It’s nothing to do with granting or denying asylum” but you don’t say what you think the issue is (and saying it is “obvious” is a student error of communication). So in this comment of yours I have to conclude you make no point (other than to repudiate).

        However, in trying to work out what your point is, I have gone back to the article to read it more carefully. I conclude that what you have contained in your mind – is that this is an issue of what happens to the asylum claimant while their claim is being processed and investigated. If the claimant is classified as being a torture victim then they have to be housed in private accommodation provided by the UK Government or in private accommodation provided by family relatives of theirs already living in Britain.

        If the claimant is not classified as a torture victim then they can be placed in a detention centres. But this does not per se affect the outcome of the result of their claim for asylum. That is to say where they stay while their asylum claim is being processed has no direct effect on the investigation into their asylum claim.

        Now if you had said the above, then Thoughtful (and others) could have then responded accordingly and there would have been a discussion. But you didn’t. I personally think you are letting your standards slip here – because normally you at least express a point clearly before providing your flourishes.

        I’ll leave it to “Thoughtful” if he wishes to respond further. I can still see Thoughtful has valid points that can be made in response, but I don’t want to pre-empt the matter.

        My point is you could have made a point but you didn’t – and I found that atypical of you – from what I have seen so far of your previous comments. I hope you are not going to end up just making insults.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        A ludicrous statement maxincony and as ever completely wrong.

        If you can not see there is a huge difference between making an unverified claim something happened and reporting that claim as absolute fact then there’s no hope.

        Taken from the BBCs website:

        “The government had argued torture could only be carried out by official state agents or terror groups with territory.”

        so ergo is this is not the issue and the BBC has reported that it is (as I have) then it follows the BBC must be lying and by extension generating fake news.

        also of interest is the fact that you believe ‘Medical Justice’ have been making up stories on behalf of those who they represent ! so again it’s fake news !

        Most of these Asylum seekers can’t speak English and have not spoken directly to the BBC, nor appeared in court, therefore it was left to others to tell their tall tales. If the claimant never said this then it is a serious charge of perjury against Medical Justice.

        Having actually worked in the field of Asylum I think I probably have a greater insight into the process than most people including you maxincony, who only think because of your insane political beliefs that you know more and better than anyone else.

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  12. Richard Pinder says:

    BBC1: 10.45pm: Panorama: Hate on the Street:

    You may not be aware, but next week is “Hate Crime Awareness Week”

    Ten types of People who are already aware of “Hate (that is not a) Crime” are:

    (1) Brexiteers hated by Remainers
    (2) Tories hated by Socialists
    (3) Jews hated by the Labour Party
    (4) Intelligent people hated by the BBC
    (5) Scientists hated by Greens
    (6) Free Speakers hated by Students
    (7) Russians hated by American Democrats
    (8) Christians hated by Liberals
    (9) Freedom lovers hated by the European Union
    (10) Catalans hated by Spaniards

    The BBC asks what is causing the rise in hate?

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    • chrisH says:

      But today is Mental Health Day!
      Can I stick to what William and Harry want today?
      Is there ANY day in the next fifty years that isn`t hogged by some moaning grievance beachtowel or other?
      Bruised Nectarine Day next Tuesday…

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Excellent work

    A conservative PM has done a survey on unfairness to ethnics . She has given many an even bigger chip on their shoulder . I wonder when we ll get a real Conservative party and not this pink one.

    It’s like an audition for the race relations industry to get a government job like a rest in the Lords .

    My local itv news is carrying the story of how an enemy Muslim woman who did time for aiding the escape of a London bomber got a job with labour run Southwark council . They even put her on a poster . They say she didn’t declare her conviction . She is saying she did.

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    • Sluff says:

      Fedup
      I was shocked, truly shocked, at the astonishing revelation that ‘traveller children’ get worse school results than the rest of the children.
      A glance at the school absenteeism and attendance figures may give a slight clue as to why this is. But I’m sure what is really needed is a few billion pounds spent on addressing the unfairness felt by the ‘traveller community’

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Sod the ‘unfairness’ when that lot decide to offload their sh…t (literally), along with sofas, fridges and umpteen black bags of crap on the site they’ve been made to leave. We might have progressed in leaps and bounds technology wise in the past 10 years, but since the 1950’s we’ve reverted to living in jungle conditions.

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        • G says:

          Brissles,
          Jungle conditions? When you bring in those that live in a jungle environment and literally dump them in the middle of the indigenous population, perhaps we’re not just in the 1950’s we are actually measurably regressing.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I would think the kids are busy knocking on the door of the elderly to nick their savings on the ‘ lost ball ‘ scam with their dads doing the reflective jacket test the water trick

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        • Oaknash says:

          I think with this whole “racial audit” nonsense Theresa May has finally let the cat out the bag – in that it shows the position the Conservative party has adopted in relation to the indigenous white British population.

          We all know that the audit will leave no stone unturned when it comes to finding the reasons for the apparent disparities between races. Every stone except the one that shows that some communities do not actually want to assimilate, and have imported with them religious/cultural practices and prejudices and in fact downright medieval attitudes that make it very difficult for them to succeed in a a civilised Western society.

          This same stone was never fully lifted to look at the reasons for mass sexual assault, terrorism and many other crimes and will remain unturned while the Liberal attitudes and prejudices still hold sway.

          Just like how Theresa and the majority of the Tory party cannot be trusted with Brexit. This Government cannot be trusted to deal complicated issues such as this which require a candid and honest approach to deal with unearthed problems in an effective fashion.

          I am afraid that any honesty would immediately identify that multiculturalism does not work but this would threaten the jobs and reputations of too many people in the media/social work/political/educational establishments who for a long time have been milking this particular cash cow to death and would be loath to give up their privileges for a real job in the real world.

          No – I am afraid that the Tories are no different to the likes of Fatbot when it comes to race hustling. And as these days they believe only in power rather than have any values themselves. I expect this is an attempt to get in on the ground floor with all these new “British Citizens” So that in twenty years time when the “new demographic” takes over the Tories will still be up their with the rest of the current liberal runners and riders.

          Talking about the British Government being prejudiced against their own people (like some right wing bigot) – gives me no pleasure. However I think this is in fact where we have arrived at today. I think that it marks a sea change in Tory attitudes where being elected has become more important than standing up for any values. And because the Tories dont really believe in what they are saying themselves (it only being an excercise in power) I think few will vote for them.

          What I do think we must now do is to look for someone else to represent us before it is too late. The writing is now on the wall, whether the great British public choose to read it is anybodies guess. They say better late than never but I do now wonder whether just voting will be merely enough. Democracy is only as good as the current Government allows, and the way things are going at the moment we are losing it at a rate of knots. I think internal conflict is coming lets just hope enough common sense will be retained in our security forces to avoid civil war – but who knows.

          Lets hope people will now start to catch on to what is happening. But I am afraid with Ooooooooooooh Jeremy lying through his teeth and dem kids lapping it up we have many dark years to come.

          On a lighter note did Fatbot invent the Oooooooooooooooooh Jeremy refrain?

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          • G says:

            Oak,
            ” I think internal conflict is coming lets just hope enough common sense will be retained in our security forces to avoid civil war – but who knows.” They will have families living in the real world and will have their own views which I suspect are closer to ours. Best option? A military coup: quick, short, sharp. I’d have no problems with a General Sir Mike Jackson (et. al) type moving temporarily into No. 10

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          • Zelazek says:

            I agree that Theresa May and the Conservative Party are prejudiced against the indigenous white British population. When she was Home Secretary, May banned Robert Spencer – in my view the most brilliant and articulate critic of Islam now writing – from entering the UK, thereby showing herself to be an enemy of free speech and her own civilisation. I don’t understand how that woman can call herself a conservative. She seems, as you say, Oak, to be interested only in power and doesn’t have any values herself, but such values as she pretends to espouse in the hope of holding onto power are the values of a traitor.

            This audit has produced the most ridiculous comments and discussions on the BBC and Channel Four News. And May and the Tories have bought into all the false assumptions behind all the leftie whining and grievance-mongering. I saw a young black guy on the BBC the other night saying he knew a black law graduate with a first class degree who couldn’t get a job in the law because of discrimination and was now working in Sainsbury’s. This story as presented I found hugely implausible but the Beeb broadcasts it as if it is typical. We are supposed to believe that there are millions of blacks with firsts stacking shelves in supermarkets because of institutional racism in the professions. Another thing I hate is when they gather groups of ethnic teenagers together and expect us to believe that the half-baked ideas and second-hand opinions they have formed during the course of their youthful inexperience of the world provide some kind of penetrating insight into Britain today.

            No-one ever speaks the truth that equality of outcome is a chimera, that institutional racism does not exist, and that it is an absurdity to think that all the races should be represented in business and the professions in numbers proportional to their percentage of the population. The truth is that the races are not identical in every way. They differ in average IQ and in temperament and in attitude and in their inclination to abide by the law. The Chinese have high IQs, they understand the importance of family and education and hard work, they tend to be reserved and self-disciplined. No wonder they do well at school, make money and don’t end up in prison. Black males in contrast generally have low IQs, are boisterous and impulsive, tend to grow up in fatherless households and regard drug-dealing as the ideal career choice. Many are stupid enough to think it is a good idea to resist arrest and plead not guilty when they have committed a crime. No wonder they are over-represented in prisons.

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            • Oaknash says:

              G and Z – – My lad has a degree and is currently “only” pulling pints in a pub (due to a combination of “finger trouble and choice). Maybe if I can find a bit of effnik blood in my family I can go weeping to a BBC reporter about waycism and get on a news item. – sheeesh!

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      • TrickCyclist says:

        I remember sitting next to a Gipsy kid at my school nearly forty years ago. His name was Frank. Or, as he spelt it, “Farnk.”

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  14. seismicboy says:

    One has to laugh at the liberal media (or cry). After so much righteous bleating about arms sales to tyrant states like Saudi Arabia et al, the moment the trade drops off and jobs have to go it’s a veritable disaster. And, of course, it’s all down to brexit and government policy. Talk about having your cake and eating it?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yippee the catelonians are in the process of declaring independence .now the EU is fighting a war on two fronts and Blighty is probably the easy one . More of the same elsewhere in Europe please .

      On the upside they might replace our star with that of the Republic of Catalonia – assuming Spain let’s them join of course .

      The population is the same ish as Scotland .

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      • chrisH says:

        Let`s hope that Britain is the first country to recognise the new country of Catalonia.
        This would screw the European Union, and possibly get Spain to STFU about Gibraltar-the E.U seem keen to use that particular skewer at will. Maybe then other countries trying to make us go down their Euroship Hindenburg would realise that there`ll be a price to pay soon enough.
        Good tactics I`d have thought.

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  15. Sluff says:

    Not strictly biased BBC but symptomatic of the left mob the BBC so love.
    And firmly in the ‘you can’t make it up’ category.
    On BBC London news today.
    A woman of Middle Eastern appearance wearing ahem a certain head covering was chosen as the poster girl for Southwark council housing department.
    Slight problem. She was given 10 years in jail for supporting one of the failed 2005 London bombers, who from memory was a relative.
    And it turns out the council knew. Labour hold 48 of the 63 council seats.

    I dare say this sort of crass behaviour is actually calculated to win votes.
    Now I’m going off to lie down in a dark room………

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  16. Pounce says:

    The bBC and how it promotes Fake News

    Remember this:
    Dove apologises for ‘racist’ Facebook advertising campaign

    The bBC instead of putting the story straight , simply threw more fuel onto the fire of self righteousness. Here is what the bBC didn’t tell you about how this story is only half a story:
    Political correctness and fake racism over that Dove advert

    The bBC and its leftwing agenda that all white people can only be racist.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC editorial integrity revolves around what there is time and space to put in.

      And what to leave out.

      Propaganda backed by censorship.

      History repeats.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Pounce
      And they act all indignant when the occasional white man runs amok. Are they really determined to move us forward to 1933? Have they no common sense at all or are they just plain evil ? I have to wonder just what their game is.

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  17. Deborahanother says:

    A truly dire Eastenders tonight which managed to disparage the entire British Empire and equate what happened at Suez to the Nazis . Then in a totally different scene Sonia singing the virtues of her ethnic colleagues one of who rushed off to help in the London Brifge attack, even though she was off duty and was told to “go back to your own country”

    I only dip in and out these days but this was one of the worst biased and propaganda episodes I have seen.No wonder it is losing viewers.
    At a time when the country is divided the BBC ramp up the colonialist rhetoric ,like that’s really going to help race relations.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      Deborahanother – that is why a lot of “big films” bomb at the box office, people are tired of getting political messages and political correctness stuffed down their throats; it’s always been there but there is no guile or subtlety about it now.

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      • Scroblene says:

        Al, the additional problem for the film ‘industry’, is that there are far too many ‘actors’ spouting political drivel as well as appearing in crap ‘modern’ flicks.

        Every time I hear some lefty luvvie clamouring for photo shoots and blaming everyone for everything, and ‘everyone who knows me, an’ I wanna help children an’ immigrants and er- that’s it…’, I’m afraid any film that includes their input just doesn’t get seen, or even considered.

        Much easier that way, and rather like just getting the real news from good people here, rather than waste time hearing fake news from the BBC.

        No wonder my blood pressure was normal for the first time in ages, after not seeing the 6:00pm news on BBBC for five or six weeks!

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    • Synchronised says:

      I only caught bits of it when my daughter watched it in its early days. It was obvious then that the use of lighting and decor was designed to make the viewer feel thouroughly down let alone the script and miserable looking cast. Absolute garbage.

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      • Scroblene says:

        It’s always been absolutely awful, Sync, and well worth avoiding at all costs. I watched the first half of the first episode, and never saw it again, although my daughts watched it and I had to hear the screaming (from the ‘cast’, not the daughts), if I couldn’t get out of the room fast enough!

        Bring back Crossroads I say, at least the scenery shook properly when Amy Tortoise forgot her lines…

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    • TrickCyclist says:

      BBC dramas are in fantasy land. Have a look at Our Girl tonight, with gorgeous Michelle Keegan in a close-fitting uniform and a British Army made up largely of ethnic minorities. At the beginning of the programme they performed some sort of special forces rescue, under fire, not in an armoured vehicle but in an ordinary looking mini bus!
      Ten minutes was enough for me, I’m out!

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      • Lefty Wright says:

        TrickCyclist
        Wake me up if reality kicks in please.It’s my bedtime. Goodnight each.
        P.S. Hope this isn’t a re-make of The Big Sleep movie.

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      • G says:

        TC,
        10 minutes? That long?

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      • Beltane says:

        For top quality fantasy try The Last Post, TC. Set in Aden at an MP post, they manage to become involved with an SAS squad – including for some reason an overweight and inept Scot with a BAR and blisters. Naturally the SAS are ambushed and virtually wiped out by the expert marksmanship and heroism of the local insurgents, led by a bespectacled bin-Laden clone. Hurrah!

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    • Flexdream says:

      Isn’t it because of the links established initially by the British Empire that we have so many non-white immigrants in the first place?

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  18. BRISSLES says:

    Michelle Keegan. Another shoooooein for Strictly next year.

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  19. BRISSLES says:

    Now Weinstein is accused of rape, to add to the list of his assaults. At least they haven’t waited until he died before the investigations began !! Unlike here.

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    • TrickCyclist says:

      Brissles,
      I know this story has been rumbling along for a few days now, one of Weinstein’s initial accusers was actress Rose McGowan. I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this here already but nine years ago, when promoting the movie Fifty Dead Men Walking, she said;
      “I imagine, had I grown up in Belfast, I would 100 per cent have been in the IRA”. . .
      “My heart just broke for the cause. Violence is not to be played out daily and provide an answer to problems, but I understand it.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2798941/Rose-McGowan-I-would-have-signed-up-for-the-IRA.html

      Sounds like a typical clueless, self-absorbed Hollywood dipsh-t. My sympathy for any grievance she has now is somewhat limited.

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      • TrickCyclist says:

        Just looked up Weinstein’s credits on imdb. Knew about Miramax and their success at the Oscars, but I didn’t realise The Weinstein Company was a co-producer of BBC productions like War and Peace, Roald Dahl’s Esio Trot and My Week with Marilyn.
        Wow, an accused sex abuser working with the BBC, who’d have thought it?

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      Brissles, this type of thing has been going on in Hollywood ever since there has been a Hollywood.

      I am wryly amused by how Weinstein is completely wrapped up with the Democrats and has been for years. The only surprising thing here is why someone as powerful as this POS has been brought down in this manner.
      He isn’t the only one who has been doing this and it could be interesting (assuming this ever sees the light of a criminal court) who he would take down with him should he go through that process.

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  20. theisland says:

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Isn’t Libland weird ?
    There are plenty of logical people here
    Even the majority of people on the street, seem to get it and are cynical about the BBC.
    Then there is the odd person percent of troubled people
    Then you bump into Sociology worker types ..their world is weird.
    The Radio4 Discussion forum was infiltrated by masses of such Lib types in an entryism trick
    So yesterday during woman’s hour a guest on Woman’s Hour name called Trump a “Cabbage man”
    …Now that’s a pretty unPC insult so the presenter quickly went to control the tone by saying “He’s the democratically elected president and many people voted for him”.
    But in the Facebook group there’s is a troubled woman who is a fanatical Trump hater who has tantrums, so she made a post saying BBC are in some weird conspiracy to protect Trump. Pity her she is troubled… and the big thing is that Hillary Clinton will be on the show on Monday so there’ll be plenty of grouching at Trump.
    The strange thing is that 30 grown up liberals added comments agreeing with her… even though 2 others* pointed out that she seemed to have missed the presenter was trying to stop an insult, no one called them out properly.
    Now you can’t judge those people by what they say cos it might be acting , but there were 30 people agreeing with the weird conspiracy theory that BBC protect Trump.
    …That’s what we are up against with these Remainer and BBC types ..they seem like zombies.
    * I can no longer see those 2 comments so that seems those 2 people have left the group, thus making it even more of an echo chamber.

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    • maxincony says:

      StewGreen,

      But in the Facebook group there’s is a troubled woman who is a fanatical Trump hater who has tantrums… Pity her she is troubled…

      I see…

      Someone posted an opinion you didn’t agree with on the Radio 4 Facebook page.

      So you rushed back to your safe place on Biased-BBC to repeatedly tell everyone that this random person they had never heard of has mental health issues because they posted an opinion you didn’t agree with.

      Prefaced, of course, by the supreme narcissism of; “There are plenty of logical people here”.

      Isn’t Libland weird ?

      Self-awareness not really your strong point is it, Stew?

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  22. G says:

    New Orwellian development!
    All the makings of a bureaucratic nightmare for “Public Services” – thanks Treezer – “The UK must act against race inequality” –
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41560927
    One things for sure, we are on the verge of much conflict between laws v laws and, laws v policies and, coupled with the dire quality of drafting legislation, (e.g. The Referendum Act 2015) I foresee many difficulties with the PC of it all, so much so that the system will likely grind to a halt. Good. It’s already fu**ed up enough and it only needs a little shove to push the whole rotten system over the edge. The BBC will be ecstatic.
    So, who will decide whether a public service acted improperly? Is it to be another ‘Hate Crime’ scenario where the individual complainant dreams up a complaint which, at the least could be simply just being uncomfortable with how a situation concluded? How will the ‘public service’ deal with that faction of our ‘fellow countrymen and women’ who believe firmly in taqiyya and will apply it at every opportunity to get their way or pull one over on the kaffir?
    Orwellian? I can foresee every official wearing a body cam for any discourse with the public for their own legal protection. Storage of footage? Data Protection? Departments in every ‘public body’ to deal with the increased workload?………………………..

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  23. StewGreen says:

    WTF Emma Barnett the BBC presenter is on ITV PRESENTING the 10:45pm discussion show
    ..which was billed as being presented by Nick Ferrari.

    Isn’t that weird ?
    Where’s Nick ? he tweeted a few hours ago

    Guests are @ChukaUmunna & lan Duncan Smith
    Gender neutral passports ? WTF

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  24. Flexdream says:

    The Beeb’s obsession with Trump is boring now. R4 news has just run a sympathetic piece on Pakistan’s plan for a border fence with Afghanistan. Naturally, this being the BBC, we are first reminded of the totally irrelevant fact that Trump is proposing a ‘wall’ (aka a fence).
    Dimissive reference is also made to US claims that Pakistan is a haven for some terrorists. Maybe the BBC could have reminded listeners where Bin Laden was found living. Nor is it necessary to go as far as the US to find someone who thinks Pakistan harbours terrorists.

    “Pakistan’s former national security adviser (NSA) Mahmud Ali Durrani has openly admitted that a Pakistan-based terror group had carried out the [Mumbai] 26/11 attacks.”
    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/070317/mumbai-attack-former-nsa-of-pakistan-spills-the-beans.html

    “Following the Delhi bombs in September Muslims protested in the national capital, blaming SIMI and demanding that Pakistan abstain from involvement in terrorism in India.
    India frequently blames Pakistan for involvement in terrorist activity on its territory, particularly in the contested region of Jammu and Kashmir.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/26/india-attacks-mumbai-terror-security

    “transcripts of phone conversations between Mumbai terrorists and their handlers in Pakistan reflect murderers’ cold-blooded zeal.”
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132160

    “Pakistan has long been accused by its neighbours India and Afghanistan, and western nations like the United States, and the United Kingdom of its involvement in terrorist activities in the region and beyond”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

    But, if you relied on the BBC you’d think the US under Trump was the only country accusing Pakistan of harbouring terrorists, and the only other country with a physical barrier on its border.

    36216288d5de15f9b343b34f048efb45

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    • G says:

      Flex,
      Perhaps they simply want to keep the muslim terrorists out although I cannot see, for the life of me, why anyone would want to ‘break in’ to Saudi Arabia……………..

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Sand and Islam is found is Saudi Arabia. The sand is inert, Islam is anything but.

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  25. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Do we have any historians here? It seems to me democracies never survive historically. As long ago as 6th century BC and Plato, in his writings that constitute “The Republic” was the weaknesses associated with democracy laid bare.

    Today there is a type of consensus – tory – labour – lib dem – media – education institutions – academia – the church – the police, that no longer provides a choice to many, and it is slowly fragmenting European societies leaving them vulnerable to takeover by an assortment of activists – and the one which has the largest global resources to draw upon and which has demonstrated its tenacity to survive and conquer – is Islam.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      A democracy may last, but a welfare state is another matter. Once people realise that they can vote to help themselves to other peoples’ money, the long journey to financial destruction begins.

      We are well advanced on that route now. In ten years the national debt has doubled. We will never pay it back. We can only afford the interest because rates are at 300 year lows. If interest rates were at 10%, almost all government expenditure would go on debt interest.

      The modern welfare state was invented by Bismarck in the late 19th century as a way of keeping the German working class quiet without giving them the vote. But when you combine the welfare state with the vote, the takers will vote more for themselves, far more than the makers can ever provide. So the government ends up borrowing to make ends meet, and we start down the slippery slope.

      We are not alone. All western democracies are welfare states, and they are all drowning in debt. Logically, one day, the house of cards must fall, one way or another, either through debt default or hyper inflation, the two traditional ways these things end.

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      • G says:

        Rob,
        “All western democracies are welfare states, and they are all drowning in debt.” Drowning in immigrants taking their share of the pot as well. Agreed, – the road to ruin. However, none of the dimwits running this country even see the folly of this ‘progressive’ farce. There is a growing clamour for everybody to receive a set ‘living wage’ irrespective of circumstances. God help us. Happily I’ll probably not live to see the explosion.

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  26. Roland Deschain says:

    The BBC’s racial grievance week continues.

    ‘I got a job after I removed my headscarf’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41574047

    Shazia Khan, who is 33 years old, used to wear a headscarf for religious reasons.
    “I was interviewed for six jobs that I didn’t get.
    “You know when you’ve done well in an interview and I just thought to myself, ‘what am I doing wrong?'” she explained.
    Friends suggested she try attending an interview without her headscarf. Shazia was sceptical but gave it a go.
    “After one of the first interviews I was offered the job. I was gobsmacked.
    “It may just be a coincidence, but it made me realise that people can discriminate.”
    She felt depressed afterwards and only wears her headscarf when she goes to the mosque.
    “I felt really sad realising that people are treated differently because of the colour you are, or your name. That people have difficult getting a job because of this. I felt uncomfortable and it made me more paranoid.”

    Note how the BBC is quite happy to let her spout off about something the story shows didn’t happen, because it suits their agenda. It was nothing to do with your colour or name, you dozy cow. You’ve just admitted it was your headscarf.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The BBC feckers are headlining this on their UK News homepage under their Features & Analysis as:
      Race inequality ‘I got a job after I removed my headscarf’
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

      The BBC are Fecking moronic islamist shrills – this has feck all to do with Race – what fecking feckwits the BBC feckers are.

      It’s to do with religion – Islam, and its attempt to islamify what is an otherwise secularised workplace. The headscarf is a symbol of inequality between men and women in Islamic society. It has feck all to do with freedom – unless that is the freedom to chose to be repressed.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I am always intrigued by how the people who ‘tell the bbc’ things come to be in a position to do so.

      Do they walk in? Do they call? Do they write? Or are they approached? Having been vetted?

      By Tom Gerken, UGC & Social news

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      • Lefty Wright says:

        Guest Who
        I can only guess at how that works but they almost always say what the interviewer wants them to say.
        I hope someone who works for the BBC will one day find the balls to grass the buggers up to the pubic.
        They will forever be lauded as a hero of the people.

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  27. JamesArthur says:

    WTF..So Karen Bradley MP on BBC to talk about safe internet and what does Dan Walker throw in…how would you vote for if we had another Brexit referendum? She gives him short shrift but he bangs on about it …saying asking hypothetical questions is important – likening this question to asking if you would be willing to press the red button…What a complete Tw.T She was on to talk about Internet safety and he spent more time pushing her on Brexit….

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC ‘while I have got you here’ interview questions are, like their editorial, highly selective.

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  28. Beltane says:

    Monday: May: ‘There are billions set aside for the possibility of a ‘no deal’ Brexit.
    Wednesday: Hammond: ‘There is no money available for a ‘no deal’ Brexit.
    Using the above statements, construct a sentence including the words: ‘duplicity’ ‘up’ and ‘stitch’.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Beltane
      There is duplicity set aside for the possibility of getting the billions to accept a stitch up for a no deal Brexit.
      Sorry. That doesn’t quite make sense. I’m sure one of you clever sods will do better.

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  29. Thoughtful says:

    Very interesting that Cara Delavigne has now it’s all OK and safe to call out Weinstein.

    Weinstein has been photographed with ‘Hilary’, and contributes a lot of money to the Democrats, he’s definitely ‘inside the tent’.
    Contrast this with the speed and the virulence which they criticise those who aren’t, one of ‘us’
    It’s not OK to criticise one of their own, and now we can all see just what the Hypocritical Fascists of the Left are really like.

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