START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…

A new week of appalling BBC bias. They have no shame so don’t hold back and DETAIL the bias here!

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  1. EnglandExpects says:

    Hypocrisy time: the Spectator reports that Culture Secretary Karen Brady, responsible ( if that’s the right word for someone so ineffectual) for BBC oversight, didn’t have a TV licence for telly viewing or i player using in her constuency office.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      As Private Eye has pointed out, Karen Brady peddled pornography at the beginning of her career working for West Ham chairman David Gold. It’s a bit rich that now she presents herself as a feminist icon.

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      • JimS says:

        Before our friend Maxi gets too excited there is government minister called Karen Bradley and life peer called Baroness (Karren) Brady.

        Neither of them are called Karen Brady.

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    • EnglandExpects says:

      Correction Bradley. This Karen would never make it in the ‘glamour’ industry!

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  2. G.W.F. says:

    Well, who knows. A demo on Nov 5th outside BBC against its bias.

    Bet the BBC won’t report it.
    I would like to attend. I would go dressed in an Owen Jones mask or maybe a Dimblebum one.

    Actually this is a good site, with excellent reports

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      I am increasingly seeing the BBC as some sort of liberal Death Star sucking the life out of the country.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m working on the assumption that HMG is starting to play the sort of mind games the EU and it’s remainers have been doing for the last year . – with regard to saying the accursed ecj will have jurisdiction after article 50 has expired .
        If it’s not mind games and just thickery then brexiters are in trouble as the remainers fudge it . I suppose starmer will be making hay.

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      • gaxvil says:

        They have just received funding from the Foreign Office (that’s us, the taxpayers) to set up 12 more foreign language stations. That kind of serious funding plus that from the TV tax, you might, just might think just a little effort might, just might, go towards promoting the interests of this country?
        But hell no, they have the morality and loyalty of Google and Facebook ie: zero.
        That said Google and FB have earned their money.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Hi GWF, I may be wrong with this, but it seems that Paul J. Watson might be the altered voice behind this video. If so, he has finally decided what to do next after he was stopped economically from posting videos onto youtube, following owner Googles big brother demonitisation over the past year of all information and protest videos that goes against the progressive liberal fascist consensus of the elites.

      Basically if this is to be a new movement, we need strong leaders, with impeccable backgrounds. Basically a system that parallels that already developed by Islamists in their progressive takeover of Britain, is needed to counteract this. It will take time & requires planning.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Our Nigel tonight

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  4. StewGreen says:

    @BBCInsideOutYL InsideOut Yorks/Lincs item : Who’s going to leave cos of Brexit ?
    It seems like another item pushed in by an NGO
    but this time it turned out to be the father of one of the girls in the show
    Jeremy Abrahams from Sheffield is making an exhibition “about couples where one partner is EU born and the other UK born”

    #1 example his daughter Alison works for Amnesty in Brussels
    “Who’s going to employ a British person in Belgium ?”
    stupid woman you already have a job with a British origin NGO

    #2 The Italian woman Cristina Cerulli who works as architecture lecturer in Sheffield

    She had planned to move her family to Florence
    ..but then in an update after a holiday there, they’ve changed their minds

    The exhibition is part of the UK Social Science festival in Sheffield

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  5. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News (Birmingham & Black Country section):

    “”Fairy lights bomb plotter Zahid Hussain jailed for life””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-41556318

    Shouldn’t this be on the main page? Unless of course the BBC was seeking damage limitation.

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  6. davylars says:

    Bloody hell.. just followed DS’s link to BBC Birmingham news and can’t believe the idiots have shown the fairy light device. I wondered how you could make a fairy light into a detonator and now those clowns have shown the whole world. Anyone with a slight knowledge in chemistry and electronics now have a blueprint.. Expect a lot more of these devices now. If they had an ounce of sense, they should pull that image down. They are very quick to castigate google and YouTube for divulging such information..

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Maybe Amber Rudd can take the BBC Organisation down for disseminating illegal IED materials?

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  7. DongleDong says:

    Don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but it is a worrying sign. Hillary Clinton is to visit Swansea University on the 14th October to be awarded an honorary doctorate. Any mention of the award on social media is met with a barrage of criticism from what appears to be the consensus that she is a warmongering, dishonest, crook. Yet a search of Google for any negative opinion, protest or disgust with this travesty draws a blank and can only lead one to assume Google are censoring out anything but positive Clinton news. If they do it with this, what else are they hiding from us?

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  8. theisland says:

    Article about the FLA march last Saturday in The Spectator. Also attended by a group called Veterans Against Terrorism, and Gurkhas.
    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/the-football-lads-alliance-is-a-working-class-movement-and-the-political-class-wants-to-ignore-it/

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  9. G.W.F. says:

    The Football Lads Alliance demo.
    Watch Tommy Robinson humiliate the shit from the BBC towards the end of the video.
    Comments on You Tube show what many think of the BBC
    Perhaps Maxicony might respond to them

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    • MarkyMark says:

      If only two people had turned up to the Football Lads Alliance march, then the BBC would have reported it … EDL Chelmsford march attracts two supporters {24sep2017}
      “Essex Police said the force had “acted on intelligence” and had put on extra patrols in Chelmsford on Saturday.”

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    • StewGreen says:

      The poor BBC guy knows he’s caught up in a mad game
      TR : “Will you in your news report call this march right wing ?”
      Beeboid : “Yes cos it’s labelled as such”
      TR : how ?
      Beeboid : well it’s about anti terrorism and border control
      TR : So even though the Labour manifesto says the same about stricter border control you’ll call this far right ?
      Beeboid : Er yes.
      The video is edited but looks true
      just before 3:14 it contains a black guy saying he’s seen no racism problem

      The Beeboid basically admitted he was there to video trouble
      I just search BBC web , there is still no story on the march

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      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        Got a recent copy of the Socialist Review with an article by Wayman Bennet and an ameneusis who joined the letters up for him.
        No-do they not like the FLA? Yes-they do not.
        Incoherent drive bys all through the article, but they are clueless- they are VERY sensitive to the Great God of Footy, and all those working class chappies are bound to be Labour and union fodder aren`t they?
        So Hillsborough gets lobbed in, the FLA guilty of false consciousness and naive-run by racists like Tommy and Nigel. This ought to be the start of something, hope Anne Marie sends us all out with flyers to the next Wednesbury game… this one could destroy the left, seeing that Emily Thornberry and Dianne Abbott couldn`t even get into the Scotland team.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Those Socialist Review articles are available on line
          and their video does indeed show thousands and thousands of people at the Rally

          “Some of those demonstrating seemed genuine in their belief that the FLA is not racist.
          They said they were there because they wanted the government to do more to tackle terrorism.”“People say we’re EDL, but this has nothing to do with the EDL,” said one. “It’s bringing everyone together.”

          But even if some think the FLA isn’t racist, racists and fascists feel comfortable at its events. Tommy Robinson was treated as a celebrity.

          Speeches at the start of the protest included ex cops, former soldiers and others. The biggest cheers went to the most right wing speeches.

          FLA founder John Meighan was loudly cheered when he called for the deportation of terror suspects.

          Sep 22nd : https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45360/Whos+on+the+march+We+investigate+the+Football+Lads+Alliance
          and 3 articles since the rally

          https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45416/Anti+racists+will+be+on+the+streets+as+the+Football+Lads+Alliance+plans+to+march
          https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45443/Racism+was+at+the+heart+of+Football+Lads+Alliance+march
          video : “we’ve lost our freedom of speech, we are not allowed to say anything any more”
          Racist chants ? “We want ourr country back” “Natinal Anthem” “England England” occasional mutters “we are not racists”
          Shows police kettling tightly the marchers ..and some frustration..one bloke swears at police as the crowd shout “scum” at them
          https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45444/Video+from+the+Football+Lads+Alliance+march+in+London

          The reason why this march was peaceful is of course cos the Antifa agitators failed to turn up like they normally do.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Antifa are cowards. The thought of meeting 30,000 working class guys who hate their guts must have given them brown trousers.

            This FLA march is a bit like the march of the London dockers in support of Enoch Powell in 1968. That was the authentic voice of the white working class, so it has been censored out of history. The BBC would prefer you to know about middle class students protesting against the Vietnam War in Grosvenor Square.

            I think it after the left wing establishment saw the white working class take to the streets that they decided to import a new proletariat. Try and find a white person now in Tower Hamlets. The ethnic cleansing has been complete.

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    Grooming gangs across the country are repeating the horrific abuse exposed in Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford and most recently Newcastle, victims and investigators have warned. {independent.co.uk 08oct2017}
    “Operation Sanctuary: “We do not believe that what we have uncovered is unique to Newcastle””
    “…especially from the kind of organised grooming and sexual exploitation that has come to light in towns and cities across the UK.”

    Grooming – Brush and clean the coat of (a horse, dog, or other animal).

    OR

    Grooming – prepare or train (someone) for a particular purpose or activity.

    OR DID THEY MEAN ….

    Sadistic Nationwide Child Rape Gangs and Sex Traffickers – The rape and torturing of hundreds of children and pouring fuel over them for fun

    OR JUST CALL THEM …

    Like the BBC does … ‘Grooming Gangs’

    Just so we are clear on what the problem is …

    See Page 1 of “Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham – 1997 – 2013 – Jay OBE {pdf}”

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    ITV News – 2000 people polled 49% say BREXIT is going badly. 18% said it was going OK.
    Um, who? London only? But that means 51% are OK or Happy … can hear the presenter wanting to talk over Priti Patel.

    Remain Emily Thornberry comes in to talk and presenter sits back and listens … get the physcologists into read their body language.

    Presenter is not moderating the talk … confused. Labour view is “… economy first, security second.”
    – without security there is no economy. Top Tip: “Monarch airlines and terrorism

    “We are united in conservative party … ” – Priti Patel
    “Realllllyyyyy!” says the presenter.

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    The men (rapists) were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and were mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle. {bbc.co.uk 9oct2017}
    “Operation Sanctuary: Final member (Nadeem Aslam was sent to prison for 12 years for drugs offences as part of Operation Shelter) of sex grooming gang jailed”

    – Two operations – Sanctuary and Shelter.
    – Why not name it ‘Operation Rape Britain’.
    – United in diversity

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      They might be British born, but I cannot see any way in which they are British. They see themselves as a race apart (literally), muslim overlords taking their rightful tribute of kaffir women.

      During the war, if an SS family based in Poland had a child, was the child Polish? No, he was a member of the German master race, and would be educated from birth to treat the Poles as untermensch. That is what is going on here, except our left wing traitors in government are happy to collude with the destruction of their own people. At least the Poles put up a fight.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Liz Bilney Business Woman and CEO of Leave.EU,
    Do you think BBC Wales Sunday Politics would give her a fair hearing ?

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  14. StewGreen says:

    not BBC but BT ..has anyone got any shares in them ??
    Their head of sustainability seems to be saying some mad things (Twitterfeed full of madness)
    “This year we achieved an 81 per cent reduction in the carbon intensity of our global business which has led to greater efficiency, lower operating costs, and a reduction in our carbon footprint.”
    That breaks the “too wow to be true” rule.

    “BT’s proactive approach to sustainability has been engrained in the company since it set its first emissions target in 1992”
    “began tracking its carbon emissions in 1992”
    There is no proper contemporary evidence for this 1992 start date claim

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    • JimS says:

      A few years ago EDF estimated that 10% of the UK’s electricity was used for ‘ICT’. I attended a presentation a couple of years ago where it was suggested that if economic growth in Japan hadn’t been hit by their nuclear problems then they would have run out of electricity capacity by now owing to the growth in ICT requirements.

      The observant might have noticed that BT’s green cabinets have been gradually gaining friends nearby. The older cabinets are just junction boxes, the newer ones are connected to fibre cables and they consume power. (You can see the louvres and hear the cooling fans). Now the old cabinets are getting little buddies attached to them. They are for the G.fast service. It uses power, too much for the fibre cabinets to cope with, hence the new little boxes.

      It always worries me when business managers ‘get excited’, I would rather they be sane and level-headed.

      All of these streaming services, Youtube videos etc. need hosting somewhere and they also need the infrastructure to deliver the ‘bits’ to the user. All of this needs power. The use of Wi-Fi and mobile networks gives the illusion of ‘magic’ but somewhere out there is hardware working its socks off, burning up the juice.

      I imagine BT has come up with ‘innovative’ schemes whereby ‘unbundled’ services reduce their ‘carbon’ burden, i.e. if half the connections on a FTC cabinet are for TalkTalk customers and half for BT then only half of the ‘carbon’ used by the cabinet is set against BT’s ‘sustainability’ account.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Jim,

        Thanks for that info. I had wondered why the cabinets near me seemed to be breeding. I walked past them the other day and there was yet another one!

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Reminder the NUJ special-PC rules are the reason Football lads doesn’t get reported
    https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/updated-nuj-race-reporting-guidelines-and-efj-manifesto/
    So they only have to twist that an event so it can be labelled with the boo word “far right” and then they have an excuse for dropping fairness in reporting

    Racist attitudes and the growth of far-right parties pose a threat to democracy, the rights of trade union organisations, a free media and racial equality.
    Its members have a responsibility to stop racism being expressed in the media.

    … You do not have to report on racist organisations.

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  16. JimS says:

    Dramatic Grenfell baby story probably never happened says BBC. So how much more ‘fake news’ did they publish at the time? How much of their speculation was rubbish?

    Far too busy trying to boost Corbyn’s campaign I think.

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  17. Beeb Brother says:

    This ‘race audit’ is a wet dream for the BBC. Of course it is the fault of society as a whole for any negative outcomes, not the minority culture. If children from certain black communities are more likely to be excluded from school perhaps they have a bad attitude towards their studies; perhaps people called Mohamed are less likely to get job interviews as they are less likely to integrate which has a negative effect on team spirit; and perhaps a lack of ambition is what makes more BAME individuals unemployed – it must blow their minds that they can get free money and rent for doing nothing.

    Of course none of these crucial factors will be considered and the Beeb will have a collective orgasm all day emoting about ‘discrimination’ and how evil white society is. They really are beneath contempt.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      So I am up at 6 to go to a job I do not like, and I will pay taxes towards unemployment benefits for others – some of whom would rather stay in bed than go to a crappy job. And I am the racist oppressor here? It’s nonsense.

      Plus I wonder how many registered as unemployed for benefits have secret jobs paid in cash they do not declare. An audit into who is committing most benefit fraud would be very interesting but it will never happen. My heart is pounding as I am so nervous about work today, yet the Beeb tell me I am some evil racist because more BAME people are unemployed? They can f*ck off.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        You paid for Anjhem Choudry’s house and way of life, now you are paying him to continue studying in prison … buying the rope that will hang us.

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  18. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Any journalist worth their salt can talk to the public to find out what is going on. For example a friend of friend. A white English girl started dating a Bosnian Muslim immigrant who was working as a waiter in an English south coastal town. He was surprised at how lax security was compared to what he was used to back at home. He started stealing (shop lifting) because he could get away with it. He was going out with a Christian girl because Muslim boys are allowed to do so (a Muslim girl cannot go out with a Christian boy). When the young man’s family came over they started putting pressure on the English girl to conform to Muslim ways. She had aspirations of becoming an engineer whereas the young man’s family said her duty was to have a large family and stay in the home. The English girl couldn’t stand this pressure from the young man’s family and she split up. Not before the young man’s criminality had got worse and he was eventually arrested and served a small jail sentence.

    I imagine this is just one example of many stories. This happened about ten – fifteen years ago. I know of a few other similar stories – including immigrants putting pressure on English girls to marry them and have children with them so they can stay in the country. Basically English society is pretty much fragmented at certain levels and individuals can always be found and taken advantage of. Maybe the laws have been changed since, I don’t know.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      There is no analysis, journalistic integrity or intellectual rigour. It is all this broad brush shrieking of ‘discrimination’ and ‘racism’ without crunching the numbers and getting to the heart of the problem. The Left has forgotten how to argue.

      Of course if you take people from completely different cultures and place them in our system there will be wildly different outcomes for different groups. Just to observe these differences and shriek about it does not help anyone.

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  19. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    According to the BBC’s lead story: Theresa May to introduce further affirmative action to challenge and change British society even further which is perceived as still being intrinsically racist and bigoted.

    BBC Headline: UK must take action on racial disparity, says Theresa May
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41560927

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    • Clare says:

      Sky and the BBC all over this this morning. Turned over to RT instead, as I often do.

      The BBC studio had a black headmaster complaining about the usual stuff. I was fascinated by the fact that this headmaster (!) had found it necessary to turn up to an interview on national television wearing what looked like a flat cap which had been inflated to the size and shape of a balloon. It might have been some Rasta thing – I neither know nor care. And he expected to be taken seriously? Really?

      Meanwhile, how are SE Asian kids doing at school? Do they also need help from cradle to grave?

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      • GCooper says:

        You can add BBC R4 to that list, Clare. It was just vomit-inducing. A shoddy government report compiled by Guardianistas for Guardianiistas and, of course, the BBC treats it at as holy writ.

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    • Oaknash says:

      On Toady first thing – We were treated to another R4 “hit job” on white society as to why effniks dont do so well in society (for effniks I think we can safely assume they mean mainly muslims) , effnik couldnt get mortgage – why ? – subtle prejudice of course.
      Somalian woman (who is only now learning english after years in the UK – good of her dont you think!) Her son has a “degree” and is only working as a security guard. I wonder why? – white prejudice of course people! Sorry Missis maybe he should be allowed to choose his own job and salary instead , suggest he starts with brain surgery and works upwards.

      No evidence presented just the hint that somehow these people have suffered because of some sort of prejudice. We all know what the Government report on this will be . It will be the normal lazy “brownwash” shit that we as a society are all to blame and prejudiced and we should change our ways rather than placing any sort of responsibility on these vibrant effniks to maybe change some of their attitudes and expectations.

      The whole item was an exhibition of finger wagging and guilt trippery as only the BBC knows how. How this organisation has changed these days from news to pure propaganda. At least not having a licence I dont have to pay for this shit!

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      • GCooper says:

        It’s that ‘no evidence’ that really irks. We were subjected to this facile nonsense from the BBC without so much as a hint that there might be more to what is going on here than prejudice.

        Somalis in Leicester (and perish the thought anyone should ask why we have Somalis in Leicester at all!) do not do well in life and this is automatically our fault.

        Given that any and every other government report is subjected to the most minute examination and routine excoriation, why is it that this banal nonsense is somehow exempt from even the slightest scrutiny?

        I think we all know the answer.

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      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        When will the Tories stop feeding the BBC trolls with things like “race audits”?
        Self-infliced masochism by the useless Tories. The BBC will be grateful for the free hits, and no need to even read it.
        “A report to be published later today”-is ALWAYS a BBC excuse to give us no news, just their agitations and musings on their favoured areas of grievance farming.
        Humphrys tells me that Sajiv Tory will be hauled into the beaks office to account for why the Tories have failed in things like sport, childrens TV and things not BBC.
        Sajiv , being a Muslim of Pakistani origin; would normally tell white overpaid and hideously privileged media jockeys like John to put a sock in it.
        But he`s a Tory-so will be guilty and grovelling. The Tories are THICK-this is not news, but they play into Corbyns grasping bony hands all the time.
        Me?…I`ll be checking on Anne Maries new Party, and taking soundings about whether Redditch is ready for her.
        PS-given what a eunuch Sajiv is nowadays-maybe we need no Prevent strategy-just an overnight stay at the Tory Party Conference might turn them into metrosexual, clueless clones, and save us the bombings and beheadings.

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        • GCooper says:

          And all from the woman who gave the Left that other priceless offering: ‘The nasty party’.

          Treezer – ZaNu Labour’s secret legacy.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Theresa May is pathetic. You never get the respect of your enemies by fighting on their terms. How did she think this “race audit” would be presented? Did she think the Conservatives would get any credit for it?

            It is the same with the EU. She needs to set out our terms, clearly and concisely, and publish them for all to see, and then insist that the EU negotiate with us in good faith. At the moment, the EU are walking all over her. They see she is weak, and think if they do not offer Britain a deal we will cancel Article 50 and shuffle back into the fold with our tail between our legs.

            Now is the time for leadership, and Theresa May just can’t do it. What is unfolding is akin to what would have happened in 1940 if Lord Halifax had become Prime Minister instead of Churchill. It is a slow motion train wreck.

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            • GCooper says:

              Quite right. Following so close on the heels of her risible pretend negotiations with the EU, this latest ‘race audit’ is an insult. It;s almost as if she gets her advice direct from the BBC – and yet, as is always the case, the more she appeases them, the worse they treat her.

              Where are the men in grey suits when you need them most?

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  20. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    For the past three months or so the BBC have continually been creating headline news that links India to rape, that links Hindus to rape and that links Sikhs to rape.

    In their latest agenda to associate rape with India, Hindus and Sikhs, they have as their lead story in both the Asian news and Indian news sections: Raped girl’s baby ‘was fathered by uncle’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/asia
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/asia/india

    If you click the link to the story the Headline of the article is: India rape: Child’s baby ‘was fathered by second uncle’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-41563460

    Notice the first two words of the headline “India rape”. While I have been observing the BBC website not once have I seen the headline “Pakistan rape”, “Muslim rape” etc. The propaganda is as clear as night and day & I find it fecking juvenile. Yet nothing is done about it and the BBC are becoming shriller and shriller.

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  21. Zelazek says:

    So, 71% of our Chinese ethnic minority primary school pupils meet the standard for reading, writing and maths compared with 54% of white British kids. Why are our institutionally racist educational establishments so incompetent at racism that they are allowing another race to outperform us?

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    • king crimson says:

      Zelazek – I’m sure you’re aware of similar stats in the USA (despite Trump and Brexit) where the Asians regularly outperform the Whites in most academic areas. Asians being Korean, Vietnamese, etc

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  22. Fedup2 says:

    I’m a stranger to Toady World

    I thought I’d go back to one of the habits of my life. Listen to the Toady programme for an hour or two.

    Mistake. I am a white Anglo right wing male. As far as I am concerned the Toady agenda is alien to me. As usual what I write here might upset a few. Good

    In no order – the girl dpp talking about the prosecution of dead people.
    An American pushing his book about Jewish history.
    A black American talking about Obama and Trump.
    The CQC boss saying service must work together { again}.
    A Tory PM publishing some survey about how badly [ non whites are treated by the system – unbelievable – in Corbin in power already] .
    Something bad about cuts and the so called health service,
    prison governors saying the prisons are too full again ( surely a good thing )- a bit of me says execute the lifers to make room but I’d better not.

    Beeboids and guardian readers must think that this was an excellent show . Me? I’m so bloody glad I don’t pay for it.

    There was no item relevant to me.

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  23. Beeb Brother says:

    If some ethnic groups like Chinese out perform white Brits how can the system be at fault? Could other groups not learn from the Chinese attitude rather than trying to rehaul the whole system? We must be doing something right if the Chinese are thriving.

    Nothing succeeds like failure with equality. Humph moans they have known about these statistics for decades and the situation has not improved. Maybe we have done all that is humanly possible to help minorities but some just do not want to integrate? It is a two way process; it’s like friendship – you cannot be someone’s friend unless they want to be friends with you.

    Javid is on Toady unable to mention crucial hate facts because to do so would lead to his dismissal and possible arrest. How can we ever solve these problems if you can get arrested for having certain opinions, however reasonable they may be? So there will be lots of vague, muddled thinking and virtue signalling and more millions will be squandered on the wrong medicine – the idea that it is the system that is entirely wrong and not individual attitudes.

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    • G says:

      BB,
      Swamp needs draining and fast.

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        In the next breath they will be moaning there is not enough money for something or other. Why peddle nonsense like this if you want to save money? The equalities industry costs over a billion pounds a year!

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Beeb Bro.
      I nominate you for P.M.

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  24. Beeb Brother says:

    I see also in the news today a record number of people have been convicted for sexual offences. I wonder if the Beeb will be looking into any racial disparities here and demanding urgent action?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Sharp rise in the proportion of young black and ethnic minority prisoners {theguardian.com 24jun2015}
      “Campaigners cite stop and search as a key reason why 40% of those behind bars hail from BME background – a greater disproportion than in the US”

      “Baroness Young says that successive governments “had not taken the issue seriously,” but she argues that the solutions are about more than just challenging institutional racism.”

      – Stop and search finds more criminals, time to stop ‘Stop and Search’.

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      • GCooper says:

        Exactly the kind of stunning logic that characterises the Guardian and the BBC.

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        • Guest Who says:

          And SKY.

          Currently running the heart rending story of a poor bearded moppet whose mum failed to restrain him from his life of crime.

          Frankly proving a tough sell on the empathy stakes where comments are allowed.

          Still Treezer has doubtless got his vote.

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  25. Fedup2 says:

    Beeb,
    More sexual offences eh? That’s a bad thing because white men can’t control themselves right? Or is it a bunch of third world peasants who have made it to the promised land or white girls who are kaffirs.

    More terrorist arrests? Old bill victimising obvious hard working ethnic groups right ? Or a war on us by Islam

    More teen stabbing deaths . Less police stop,and search . No connection there at all.

    Poor Treezer ain’t gonna win any Tory votes with that lefty waste of time. I wonder how much taxpayers money producing that non sense ?

    Al Beeb is leaving Labour alone at the moment in order to cause the conservatives to become weaker in preparation for the forthcoming election which al Beeb wants. More cash for the dimbley / vine production company dividends .

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Nowadays a white elderly man saying to a women, well done girl, is accused of a sexual hate crime and made equivalent to that of a Muslim rape gang member. Except Muslim rape gang members are never referred to as such by the BBC nor the police: just a man committing sexual offences, without the hate.

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  26. JamesArthur says:

    Yet another morning of UK bashing from the BBC. From the start of R4 and on breakfast all I have heard is how we are a country with terrible productivity worse than all our major competitors including France ( don’t make me laugh) and how the BAME are all hard done to because our society is mainly white and (males in particular) are all racists and how Brexit caused the problems at BAE and how we can’t negotiate with the EU ergo we are not doing it too well ….
    News flash…talking at moment about nuclear energy and BBC guy says we had to leave Euratom because of Brexit…interviewee says no we didnt…presenter changes subject :-)…is there no subject they can’t blame Brexit for!!!!!
    BBC = Bash Britain Constantly

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    • JimS says:

      French ‘productivity’ statistics must discount all of the ‘en grève’ time – a national pastime.

         4 likes

  27. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Students at Oxford University banned the Christian Union from a freshers fair to protect lonely new undergraduates from “harm” and accused Christianity of being “an excuse for homophobia and neo-colonialism”

    As reported in The Times today – concerning the decision by student leaders at Balliol College Oxford:
    LINK TO STORY

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    • G says:

      BBC,
      I’ll make a mental note to associate Oxford Uni graduates with any lack of objectivity in the future. We should all do the same with people who display such bias. I guess it just means that the BBC will be employing more Oxford Uni graduates in the future as they already exhibit the required personal qualities…………..

         16 likes

    • GCooper says:

      Balliol has long been a sacred place for the Left. It does Oxford no favours. Edward Heath? Yvette Cooper? What do you expect?

         11 likes

    • MartinW says:

      The decades-long covert and overt demeaning of Christians and Christian values and belief in almost all BBC output is bound to have had a corrosive effect on impressionable minds. We cannot tell whether this directly contributed to the warped sense of right and wrong in the mind of the officers of the Balliol Student’s Union, but the BBC has certainly been a significant anti-Christian propagandist for a very long time.

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  28. BRISSLES says:

    Sky and BBC giving airtime again to lack of diversity in EVERYTHING ! clearly they haven’t been to my local hospital where the only white staff are admin ! Ethnic children are given a rough time — um, my education might be lacking but are there white gangs involved in drugs and carrying guns ? I made mention yesterday of some BBC announcers having rubbish articulation, I find it astounding that second + generations of British Caribbean and British African still retain their ethnic way of conversing – (although most white English kids now have trouble speaking properly). Ts and Hs becomes Fs and Gs become Ks, as in nuffink. Teach all children to speak articulately and they will all have a better chance in life.

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  29. Dystopian says:

    Is Britain racist?
    Well, which ‘Britains’ are we talking about?
    The ones who forbid their daughters to mix with white boys whilst at the same time ‘grooming’ white (‘trash’) girls?
    The ones who hate us for not believing in their ‘religion’?
    The ones who want to blow up our children at pop concerts?
    The ones who want to mow us down or jump out of cars and cut our throats?
    Why doesn’t Treezer ‘order’ a study into exactly what the truth is about what is written in Islamic scripture and debate it openly.
    I think she is picking on the wrong people when she demands that we must “explain or change”!

       38 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Over a quarter (27.5%) of live births in England and Wales in 2015 were to women born outside the UK, the highest level on record. {ons.gov.uk 2015}

      Poland was the most common country of birth for mothers born outside the UK, followed by Pakistan and India.

      Pakistan was the most common country of birth for fathers born outside the UK, followed by Poland and India.

      Poland, Pakistan and India were the 3 most common countries of birth for women born outside the UK who gave birth in 2015 (Table 2). Between 2001 and 2006, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh were consistently the 3 most common countries. However, in 2007, Poland replaced Bangladesh as the third most common country, rising to second place in 2008 and first place in 2010.

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      • Al Shubtill says:

        MM – That is why, when all is said and done, it really doesn’t matter a damn whether we are inside or outside the EU: Britons will become a minority within their own homeland in 50 – 60 years time.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          On that conclusion Al Shubtill, that 50 years time Europeans will be replaced, we have no choice but to try and keep the embers of freedom of thought and freedom of speech burning.

          Hoping that they will transition into a generation that wants to fight tooth and nail for it.

          If Islam can be brought into the light and women unshackled … we may have a glimmer of hope.

          Just makes you made that the Government, with all it’s clever people who should know history, didn’t promote at least a 2.5 or higher birth rate for it’s native population. This also makes a mockery of giving aid to countries to help it’s populations …

          Using a panel of 136 countries in the period 1973-2004 we show that increases in foreign aid induce population growth. The evidence also points out different impacts across regions and depending on whether one considers multinational or bilateral aid. {webmeets.com – pdf}
          “The Malthusian model suggest that if this aid directly translates into individuals increases in wealth, those individuals will choose to increase their fertility rates as long as they view children as normal goods”

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          • Al Shubtill says:

            I was referring specifically to the UK, Eastern Europe and its people doesn’t face what we and the rest of Western Europe do and nor will they, because they have seen what has befallen our countries and as Hungary demonstrates they aren’t going to make the same catastrophic mistakes.

            Also I wasn’t just referring to Muslim or Third World immigration, although that is the greater evil, none of us were consulted about whether we wanted the huge numbers of Eastern Europeans to move here; my answer to that would have been in the negative, since no immigration on that scale is ever good for the indigenous folk.

            The unfortunate situation is that the pro-multiculti-no-such-thing-as-borders-Left and the pro-cheap-labour-and-consumers-from-anywhere-Right, have completely f***ed the future for generations of Britons yet to come; we are way, way beyond where putting a cross next to a name on a ballot paper is going to reverse this.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      How about these simple questions before we get to racism …. it’s to do with a different -ism …

      a. If a man writes a piece of fiction, should he have a death contract put on his life?
      b. If a person declares they are homosexual should they be shunned?
      c. If a man in a country draws a cartoon should that country be boycotted and the cartoonist sent death threats?
      d. Do you think you should be given a job based solely on your religion?
      e. Do you think you should discriminate against animals?
      f. Do you think UK Tax Payers should support and pay for Sharia to operate in the UK?

      a. If no, then please write to Iran to remove current death sentence for Salman Rushdie. (Fiction Writers)
      b. If no, then please ask for it to be stopped in Majority Muslim Countries. (Homosexuals)
      c. If no, then please ask this to be stopped in Majority Muslim Countries. (Persecution of Cartoonists)
      d. If no, then remove the restriction that only Muslims can recite from the Koran and slaughter the animals for Halal food. (Positive Religious/Employment Discrimination)
      e. If no, then start using pork products in your baking. (Animal Discrimination)
      f. Halal food, bought, enforces the Sharia laws as it conforms to Sharia doctrine.

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  30. seismicboy says:

    The liberal media are cock-a-hoop this morning with the BAME inequality story. But nobody has noticed the elephant in the room despite the smell. Multi-culturalism is a complete failure and the reason no one will concede to that theory is that the genie is well and truly out of the bottle. Can you blame companies who don’t want to employ BAME because they either talk like a rapper or carry so much cultural baggage with them it’s like an employment tribunal waiting to happen.

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  31. G.W.F. says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-16983788

    Expect a mass migration to Swansea for BBC luvvies who will cover Hillary Clinton’s Hon Doctorate at the Yoony of Swansea, Oct 14th. She will probably tell the students that she won the Presidential election, making her the first woman to hold this office. She cannot tell the students that Trump won because that would hurt their feelings. Should she need to go for a cack (as we say in Wales) the University have posted instructions on how to use the toilets. No bag it and bin it for our University students.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-16983788
    Link to an earlier BBC report on Swansea Yoony’s advice on how to pooh to the budding brain surgeons, philosophers, engineers and future leaders

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  32. MarkyMark says:

    “I know it’s hard to keep all these female victims (of Bill Clinton) in perspective.”@3:50

    CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS Book Discussion: No One Left to Lie – Bill Clinton (30 April 1999)

    9781859842843.jpg
    // Click imag for amazon book.

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  33. Dystopian says:

    Did anyone notice how the ‘fairy lights bomber’ was “bedroom radicalised”?
    I think Treezer ought to order a report into these bedrooms immediately

       16 likes

  34. Dystopian says:

    They’ll be banning Christmas lights next

       13 likes

    • oldcrone says:

      You may jest Dys .. our market town didn’t have any green and red and gold Christmas trees, “Merry Christmas”, Stars of Bethlehem etc, in our Christmas lights last year, just blue and white and a huge “Love and Respect” hung across the road so we were all sure to see it, feel suitably virtue signalled and know exactly what the future holds for us.

         22 likes

      • GCooper says:

        What is needed is a ‘vote the bums out’ candidate to stand in every local election, promising just one thing – to make the councillors who allow this sort of thing to happen live in fear of losing their endless expense accounts. and ‘attendance allowances’. In most cases, these insane ideas come from council employees who are allowed to run things to suit their Guardianista instructions, while the councillors just enjoy their perks.

           12 likes

      • Lefty Wright says:

        oldcrone
        So no White Christmas there then. Perhaps Santa will change the direction of the wind before too long. If he doesn’t I forecast the mother of all tornadoes.

           5 likes

        • oldcrone says:

          Not in my town Lefty … it’s full of imported champagne Socialists who work for the BBC or used to live in Hampstead and walk around the streets with polystyrene coffee cups before getting into their black 4 wheel drive BMW’s and Mercedes. The number of Vote Labour stickers round here at GE time is enough to make you walk round with a sick bucket to hand. Very very intelligent but absolutely clueless!

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  35. MarkyMark says:

    BBC have given up reporting on journalism … it just uses titles …. Torture survivors win detention ruling
    Survivors of torture have won a legal challenge against Home Office rules on asylum seeker detention in the UK.”

    – Notice that the title is almost the same as the content. BBC has given up!
    – That’s it. no other details – no links. Why bother ….

       15 likes

  36. gaxvil says:

    A new Government audit confirms, some say, us white British are a bunch of racists. It also confirms that white children from poorer families still aren’t doing so good and although we have significant numbers ethnic Mayors, MPs, Healthcare and media types it’s just not good enough although white British make up around 80% of the population.

       16 likes

  37. Beeb Brother says:

    The BBC website has a ‘news’ story about how people called Mohamed are less likely to be called for an interview.

    My brother has a small business and employs some young women. A disproportionate amount of people called Mohamed are convicted for sexual offences against young women. Imagine the Pandora’s box he would open if he employed someone who behaved inappropriately with his female staff: multiple law suits; his reputation would be in the gutter; the constant worry of it all. What right-minded person would take that risk?

       24 likes

    • maxincony says:

      Beeb Brother,

      The BBC website has a ‘news’ story about how people called Mohamed are less likely to be called for an interview…

      My brother has a small business and employs some young women. A disproportionate amount of people called Mohamed are convicted for sexual offences against young women… What right-minded person would take that risk?

      Yes, so it’s ok not to give someone a job because of their name. Every doctor called Harold should be sacked forthwith; just to be on the safe side.

      Oh, and is this the same ‘brother’ who employed a nanny who became pregnant a month later? Remember? The last time you were caught out lying?

         4 likes

  38. MarkyMark says:

    Emails failing to reach Katie Hopkins ([email protected]) – is this the beginning of Amber Rudd’s purge of Hate and Anger from the Internet?

    I normally email some of my posts to Kate Hopkins, to expose the BBC and to keep a record of the post, which I can search easily using Google Email.

    It might be a technical fault … we will see.

    Katie Hopkins stands by tweets in wake of Natural History Museum crash {theguardian.co.uk 09oct2017}
    “No, I think they were very much encouraging people to see that this looks like a terror attack and I stand by those. I stand by the idea that it’s a terror attack. I don’t shy away from that. It’s my personal opinion.”

       22 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Are we still “allowed” a personal opinion??

         8 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        Let’s introduce “Love Speech” or “Love Incidents”.

        I dropped this on order-order.com to help everyone who does not Love Enough.
        Enough is Enough …

        Let’s introduce “Love Speech” or “Love Incidents”.
        From now on when I call you an ‘idiot’ I use the word ‘genius’.
        LS (Love Speech)
        idiot = genius
        genius = genius
        enemy = friend
        friend = friend
        evil = good
        good = good
        up = down
        down = down
        stupid = clever
        clever = clever
        don’t = do
        do = do

        Prior to using these terms I will prefix each sentence with LS (for Love Speech) or HS (for Hate Speech) or NS (for Normal Speech).

        Let’s have a go.

        LS. Dear Amber Rudd, I think you are a genius and a true friend of speech. HS. You are a racist. NS. Please don’t kill free speech, it’s such a stupid thing to do.

        p.s. Sometimes I will switch between Love/Hate/NormalSpeech but will not tell you I am doing so, that is called Perceived Speech.

        {order-order.com}

           7 likes

      • Beeb Brother says:

        I think it is called ‘Face Crime.’

           1 likes

      • GCooper says:

        No! And most certainly not if you express it in public and Amber finds out.

           3 likes

      • Lefty Wright says:

        Dystopian
        Only if your white and willing to go to jail or happen to have a rather dark skin . A few years from now there will be more white jailbirds than there are members of the public. Concentration Camp anyone? This cannot end well.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Hopkins is right to stand by the facts. They can only pull accident tales for a short while. Same with the lone white gun man yarn in LA,

         4 likes

  39. Beeb Brother says:

    The race report is officially released at midday. I bet BBC executives are already masturbating in a circle in anticipation. Expect wall to wall coverage with every sofa full of victims from every culture and nation except our own saying how horrible our country is, so horrible that they risked life and limb to come and live here. It might be time to escape to a safe space.

       26 likes

    • RJ says:

      “I bet BBC executives are already masturbating in a circle in anticipation. Expect wall to wall coverage ”

      That’s an image I’m struggling to ignore.

         4 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      Beeb Bro.
      Masturbating in a circle? What are you insinuating? Cum to think of it— you’re fcuking right!

         3 likes

  40. Deborahanother says:

    BBC is ecstatic and in full on virtue signalling mode over the race report. Cue more non white faces on the BBC Sky is no better. Will Lord Hall Hall finally give up his white privileged position for an ethnic person . Theresa’s government will demand to know if not ,why not.

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  41. StewGreen says:

    BBC cannot cover news on migrant crime : cos that’s racist
    So what about someone having a dream organic farm ?
    … ah well there’s space for that on Radio4, Countryfile and last nights Inside Out Southwest
    And stick in the anti-Brexit Comments as well..
    (the entire second half of the prog)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b097ysjs/inside-out-south-west-09102017

       7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Surprisingly InsideOut London used the words “illegal immigrants” as they trailed next weeks issues
      – Fraudsters helping illegal immigrants (false passports )
      (MacIntyre already did this 2 years ago on his Channel 5 undercover prog)
      – Dementia ..therapy
      – Banksy restoration

         5 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      StewGreen
      BBC cannot cover news on migrant crime :Cos that’s a racket.

         1 likes

  42. MarkyMark says:

    The @guardian reached out to 26 male actors and directors to comment on Harvey Weinstein. None responded. {twitter}

    … reminds me of …

    Muslim Reform Group Reached Out to 3,000 US Mosques, Got Only 40 Responses {jihadwatch.org {24feb2017}
    “We spent significant resources on this outreach over a period of ten months. We reached out through snail mail, e-mail, and telephone to over 3,000 mosques and over 500 known public American Muslims. We received only 40-plus rather dismissive responses from our outreach, and sadly less than ten of them were positive. In fact, one mosque in South Carolina left us a vicious voice mail threatening our staff if we contacted them again.”

       16 likes

  43. MarkyMark says:

    “The Two Ronnies – The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)”
    The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heros and great statesmen. Britan now laboured under the yoke of a power guarenteed to strike fear into the hearts of all men… The country is being run by women…

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  44. MarkyMark says:

    Maybe Saudi Arabia is on it’s last push of Islam … women driving to spur on the economy … and taxing to the bitter end … But what has set alarm bells ringing for the expats is a new levy coming into force from 1 July 2017. The fee called ‘family tax’ or ‘expat levy’ was proposed in the Saudi budget for the year 2017 to shore up its sagging revenue in the aftermath of the decline in the global prices of oil. {firstpost.com 22jun2017}

    “The fee introduced under the naturalisation of the work force programme by the labour ministry will be increased to 400 Saudi riyals from January 2018. It will go up by 200 Saudi riyals every year until 2020.”

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  45. Flexdream says:

    Rochdale inquiry: Cyril Smith ‘acted as puppet master abuser’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-41565696

    Mmmm, does the BBC and the media need to dig a little deeper into how fat Cyril got away with it? As far back as 1979 there was this in Private Eye http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/private-eyes-1979-item-on-cyril-smith.html including the line ‘There is not an important newspaper or TV station in the land which has not received a copy …’ . Yet as recently as 2010 Mr Clegg could say he was “deeply saddened” to hear of the death of the fat one, before his crimes received full publicity.

    Does any of this matter now? I’d say yes, as it’s symptomatic of the lack of curiosity show by the media into the criminal behaviour of powerful people it favours, including those in the media itself. As by far away the biggest and best funded news provider in the world the BBC should be much more impartial and intrepid. When was the last time the BBC exposed anything?

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  46. Lucy Pevensey says:

    A woman who helped a would-be London bomber escape secured a council job after lying about her history, it has emerged. https://uk.yahoo.com/news/council-worker-dismissed-conviction-helping-004650258.html

    Mulumebet Girma was jailed for helping failed suicide bomber Hussain Osman flee after his plot to kill Tube passengers on July 21, 2005. She helped him escape to Brighton before he took a Eurostar to Paris and ended up in Rome, where he was arrested. After being released, Ms Girma was employed by Southwark Borough Council in south London, as reported in The Sun.

    The former model even became a “poster girl” for the local authority, which put her on the cover of a council magazine, Southwark Housing News, to promote an apprenticeship scheme.
    She failed to tell her employer about her criminal record and has since been sacked, the council said.

    Ms Girma, also known as Mulu, was 24 in 2008 when she was jailed for 10 years, which was reduced to five after an appeal. She had been found guilty of assisting an offender and failing to disclose information about Osman’s involvement in the attempted attacks. She was sentenced alongside Osman’s wife – and her sister – Yeshi Girma, then 32, who is serving 11 years and 9 months in prison.

    Osman, along with Muktar Said Ibrahim, Yassin Omar, and Ramzi Mohammed, tried to detonate rucksacks laden with explosives on three Underground trains at Shepherd’s Bush station, Oval station and Warren Street station, together with a bus in Hackney Road, killing themselves and passengers, but the bombs failed to go off.

    The attempted attacks came two weeks after four suicide bombers struck in central London, killing 52 people and injuring more than 770. They were jailed for life in July 2007 after being convicted at London’s Woolwich Crown Court of conspiracy to murder. At their trial, the four had maintained that the events of July 21 were an elaborate hoax designed to protest against and draw attention to Britain’s role in the attack upon and occupation of Iraq.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Another Contradiction :
      BBC front-page : Immigrants are discriminated against.
      Sun Front-page : Immigrant was privileged by being given council job, then chosen as poster girl…and that was all after she’d betrayed this country by helping a terrorist escape.

         19 likes

      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Another Contradiction:
        Sadiq Khan is Mayor of London.
        Diane Abbott is Shadow Home Secretary
        etc

           8 likes

  47. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC TV NEWS at 13.07

    Report on BAe job losses. Norman Smith stated the following:-

    “…..there will be questions about Brexit too. The boss of BAe Systems said the decision had nothing to do with Brexit, but already some are questioning whether we’d be better remaining in the single market”.

    The above is my transcript of what Norman Smith had to say. The BAe boss said it had nothing to do with Brexit, but Smith had to mention ‘some’ as saying otherwise. Who are these ‘some’? The anonymous ‘some’ who the BBC always speak of when they want support for the BBC anti-Brexit narrative?

       25 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Note the contradiction
      Remainiacs : “We are a little country so we need to always be with Europe cooperating otherwise we’re screwed”
      Us : ” So why are these BAe jobs being lost ?”
      : ” The French didn’t join the Eurofighter project, they produced their own plane ..now nations are buying it ..thus Euro fighter sales are low”

         13 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      There have been no Typhoon sales to any European state apart from the consortium which build them and Austria. There have been sales to Saudi Arabia, which is considering a further order. However, this has been put on hold as our dear friends and neighbours the French have come up with a counter offer to sell them Rafales instead. How does Brexit come into this? Only in Norman Smith’s mind, it appears.

      Meanwhile, the efforts of Worzel Gummidge to “end the arms trade” and to refuse to sell arms to Saudi Arabia are not mentioned by good old Norman. Is it possible that Labour’s anti-arms trade campaign might just have been a factor in the Saudi decision? Surely not, because Norman Smith hasn’t mentioned it. I wonder what “some people” make of that?

         15 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      When we are out we can defend out industries how we choose . The yanks may have a point about state aid to bombardier but there is a fine line .

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  48. StewGreen says:

    Remember the Great Brexit Hate Crime2 ?
    Where the Croydon pub crowd chased a Kurdish refugee .
    The trial has just started of 6 whitish youths
    … I guess some truth will come out in court over the next weeks.
    Only person charged with a hate crime is 1 teenager.

       4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Perceived ‘hate crime’ or an Actual ‘hate crime’ or a Perceived ‘hate incident’ or an actual a ‘hate incident’ or an Actual Crime?

         6 likes

  49. thirdoption says:

    “John Humphrys branded ‘dinosaur’ over ‘utterly inappropriate’ remark about rape trials on Today programme”.

    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/john-humphrys-branded-dinosaur-over-utterly-inappropriate-remark-about-rape-trials-on-today-programme/ar-AAtf2g7?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartandhp

    He was interviewing Alison Saunders, the Director of Public Prosecutions and all he did was state the truth that the scales of justice had tipped too far towards the accuser due to the ridiculous law that allows anonymity to the accuser, regardless of outcome.
    Alison Saunders replaced Keir Starmer in her role and is even more useless at it than he was. Particularly sinister was her comment that just because someone is found not guilty of rape, doesn’t mean that they didn’t do it……….what?…….so we have the head of the Public Prosecution service saying on air that even though men were found not guilty by a jury she thinks they still did it.

    No doubt she’ll be lined up as an MP for labour once her spell on the DPP gravy train comes to an end.

       21 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Third ,
      Lawyers are taught that not guilty means there wasn’t enough evidence to convict – not that someone actually didn’t do the deed. It’s one of those ideas which legal bods love but decent people think is a waste of time and thought.

      The interview was frankly mad. The idea of gathering evidence for an alleged offence by some one who is dead is an insult to the taxpayer . A complete waste of time and money and no closure for an alleged victim . Taxpayers money needs to be cared for and not spent such a cavalier way.,

         7 likes

      • thirdoption says:

        Fedup2,
        I agree with everything you’ve written.

        I think the thing that I find most disturbing is that Alison Saunders was effectively claiming that those men found not guilty were actually guilty, but at no time did she claim that if the justice system is so flawed for that to happen then the men found guilty must also have been innocent.

        All men are vicious dirty rapists – it fits the snowflake mentality.

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