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Lord Hall of the BBC stated that he refused to allow the salaries of his stars to be divulged in case they were ‘poached’ by competitors. Their salaries were supposedly so low.
Well, have any been ‘poached’ so far?
Any?
How about Gary ‘anti-Brexit but sells crisps’ Linekar?
How about Graham ‘if Brexit wins I’ll go back to Ireland’ Norton?
How low would their salaries have to fall before they were ‘poached’? A tenner??
The only poaching that Lineacher will get will be twenty minutes in simmering stock. Although he is so thick he may need an additional 5 or 10 minutes to cook through.
It’s all about supply and demand. You would think Huw Edwards would have been snapped up by now, a bargain at half a million to read an autocue. There are only about sixty million people in the country who can not only read but also talk, and we all know how every company is desperate for people to read news.
Just remember how Jonathan Ross (who he?) was snapped up as soon as the BBC let him go.
I don’t agree with the massive salaries some of these people are paid, but I do think Jonathan Ross is talented. Yes, the incident with Russell Brand was despicable but I used to listen to him on the radio on Saturday mornings (IIRC) and he had an amazing ability to sustain flights of imagination. The recent quiz show about what the country thinks was lifted from the mundane by him and Frank Skinner. Similarly Jeremy Clarkson is a rare talent. The “interviewers” and newsreaders who simply parrot the Guardian line are indeed hugely overpaid, but genuine talent deserves a special reward.
You’re certainly entitled to your opinion but I think our definitions of talent are very different indeed.
To me, these people are or were talented (not exhaustive):
Yehudi Menuhin
Vladimir Ashkenazy
Neville Marriner
Placido Domingo
The Two Ronnies
Michael McIntyre (on a good day)
Ken Dodd (live shows only)
Mike Yarwood
Harry Enfield
George Cole
Peter O’Toole
Ben Elton (as a comedy writer only)
John Cleese (at his best)
Eric Sykes
Barry Cryer (as a writer)
etc
I also had respect for newsreaders who could speak clearly, didn’t promote their own personalities, and took the trouble to pronounce foreign words and names correctly, and interviewers who could think on their feet, phrase questions correctly and keep their own views to themselves. No current first rate examples that I can think of.
Sorry, but IMO all the people you mention could be lost or replaced without difficulty and to me, Ross is a complete nonentity. To me, playing records on the radio is not a career, or even a good start. It’s a dumbed down, 20th century non-job.
Rant over.
Lordy – you’re living in the wrong century.
From your choices, you obviously seek talent in a very traditional way but I’ve noticed that, by and large, younger people in particular don’t really care. The days when talent gained respect, even amongst people who had no interest whatsoever in the respective art or genre, seem to be over. All that matters is now is fame, relevance (whatever that means), peer pressure, and whether the person is, sort of, like, cool. A person can be an obnoxious, talentless waste of space but so long as the above criteria are satisfied, that’s all that matters. The fact that the individual will be gone in a year or two doesn’t seem to matter either.
Years of training and experience count for virtually nothing. Can’t sing? Just use AutoTune. People will still pay £200 to listen to you and talk about it as a life changing experience for about two days. Their choice I suppose.
I agree with Lordy, BUT I can see where Clare is coming from (though I think being told ‘living in the wrong century’ is a harsh analogy)
The humour of ‘younger people ‘ to us of another era, is infantile and puerile. I happened to inadvertently switch to a programme called ‘Live at the Apollo’, and someone called Jason Manford was striding up and down the stage and appearing to have the audience in hysterics. I sat there barely raising a smile, and wondering if this now passes for ‘talent’.
Brissles:
I agree with Clare – I do feel out of step with so many things. I don’t think they will come as a surprise to many people here:
– Lack of respect for genuine talent, regardless of whether one actually enjoys the product or not (as above). I have no interest in ballet or dance generally, but I respect the talent and the dedication. I’m prepared to accept that the lack of interest might be my loss.
– Lack of objective standards in many things, but art and entertainment in particular. For instance I think Tracey Emin is a talentless fraud – no discernible skill whatsoever, and nothing to say.
– Absolute loathing of what the BBC and much of the MSM have become.
There are many others, but I’m not going to ramble on.
So pleased you included Barry Cryer, the most under-rated comedy writer, and a prime candidate in my book for a Knighthood.
I had the pleasure of meeting Barry Cryer a few years ago and he was incredibly funny in his ordinary conversation, friendly and not a bit stuck up. He didn’t behave like a ‘celeb’, more like that funny chap you meet down the pub sometimes that keeps the whole bar in stitches.
To call Tracey Emin a fraud is a bit unfair, I think. A fraud is someone who is pretending to have talent, but knows he does not have it. Ms Emin seems to me to genuinely believe she has talent because enough gallery owners and art critics have told her so. She is the end product of an artistic culture which sees no difference between the works of Michaelangelo, and an unmade bed by someone from Margate.
Probably as low as Flabbot would pay a policeman!
You now have to endure the sight of a full-screen picture of the repellent Norton every time you sign in to Iplayer; is there any way of skipping past it?
How’s Claire Balding doing these days?
She switched to C4 as I recall, to cover the Horse Racing, presumably not to earn less.
But ITV then won the franchise and for whatever reason other presenters are doing the presenting.
A text book example btw of the dangers of ‘Brand Extension’.
Save the Police force and ban all events that cost too much to police! {twitter DVance}
End Police Austerity by staying at home and watching a re-run of the Notting Hill Carnival on the BBC television so fewer police are required to police the event, fewer attacks and you might as well because you will be arrested for not paying the BBC TV License and it’s staff. Gary ‘£1.75m + BT Sport + Crisps’ Lineker will earn his wages, paid for by you under threat of prison and do a fresh voice over an old recording of the Notting Hill Carnival – everyone wins!
Link to end of previous ‘WEEKEND OPEN THREAD…’ posts 2017-09-01
I have recently read with interest a few recent articles in the Times about the EU referendum, both for and against , but the readers comments are the best, highly entertaining. Remainers react really badly to being called snobs, so badly that it must be hitting the mark. Given that most Remainers are on the liberal left, apart from a few fat cats, calling them snobs immediately puts them on the defensive and they start trying to justify why they aren’t at all snobbish. This just digs their hole deeper. Great fun and I recommend it whenever you have to speak with one of them.
Doublethinker, I think as time goes by and the doom-laden predictions of leaving the EU do not seem to materialise, fewer and fewer people are ideologically committed to Remain. At the time of the Referendum a lot of people I know voted Remain mainly on the ‘devil you know’ principle, but now they are seeing that the dire predictions are not happening and in fact, the EU seems to be behaving rather shabbily with its grubby demands for money. So the main Remainers are now the Remoaners, who are essentially puritans wedded to the stalinistic dream of EU domination, and thus humourless and easy to wind up.
For those that missed Munroe Bergdorf on with piers this morning who was taking none of his racist rubbish. And i see VD had him on later as well. An out and out racist and they give him airtime.
Katie,
I’ve just knocked out a post on Mr Bergdoff;
UK: Media tries to push the image that Black racist is a victim
“What the root of racism, what the root of sexism is. And sexism doesn’t come from women (says a man who says he’s a women). So of course it’s caused by men. (which is true because he made a racist remark, proving it all true)” {youtube – Racism: Piers Morgan vs. Munroe Bergdorf – @2:50}
– racism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
– sexism : prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.
– indeed this is backed up with words … “LOUISE O’NEILL: It is impossible for women to be sexist towards men {irishexaminer jan2017}”, then it goes into different degrees of sexism “Women cannot be ‘as sexist as men’”
“To site the other person you just said that would *trigger you Sam Harris*, Mark Steyn said this the other day, *this is the conversation we will be having when the Mullahs nuke us*.Everyone will be discussing if someone is transgender despite the fact they’ve had no operation (ref Jack Monroe in UK)” – Douglas Murray when he’s angry, but he still makes sense.
Never thought I would say this but ” Well done, Piers ” !
Has Piers been watching Tucker and getting a few tips?
BBC Radio 1 morning DJ Clara Amfo openly supports Bergdorf and everything Bergdorf said in her “nuanced” post. Will the BBC sack her? Fat chance.
Luton.
Piers Morgan really called her out and she had little response. She is a racist, sexist airhead .
She is still a he
‘Views their own’ presumably?
No letter to Lord Hall from fellow old white male Lord Adonis on this one?
Silly mulattress tranny should have just pulled out a koran mid interview and held it up like TR did, to Pierced Organ that’s like garlic to a f*****g vampire.
When did male models who are well rewarded for make up shoots, sex change artists and the roll of sports weirdos and celebrity misfits? When did THEY become the spokespeople of and go-to mouthoffs for identity politics or social controversies of the medais making?
How did they become role models or people whose politics needs airing?
Where are the grown ups? They surely don`t all want to stay fifteen and endlessly stirring for their revolution do they?
Started with Lady Di and Blairs election I guess….but nobody of age or reason can accept it.
All this makes me wonder. Is the song ‘Lola’ by the Kinks now considered ‘transphobic’?
I had the misfortune to catch some of the last Any Questions on the radio. Cue a self righteous question along the lines of why are WE more interested in the floods in Texas than in India?! The clear implication being that we are white racists.
I get tired of this. The media does not reflect MY interests. I do not share the BBC’s morbid obsession with the US in general and Trump in particular as it endlessly and tediously campaigns against any and all US Republican presidents. It’s the BBC and it’s fellow travellers which chooses to major on Trump, while ignoring South America, China, Japan and India etc. Not me! Now that they realise they can’t attack Trump over Texas, the BBC loses interest in that.
If you want news these days you have to ignore the news organisations.
The other bit of BBC bias I came across was on Barmier and his views on Brexit. The BBC piece led with one statement by the nutter, then followed it up with another statement from Bampot, and only in third place a statement from Davis. I also noticed later on that while the EU would be quoted as simply stating something as if it was a fact, that the UK would make a ‘claim’ as if the UK statement was contentious.
F
Sorry, but who is Barmier, who is Bampot?
Is there a BBBC list of nicknames, a glossary of special terms, an index of abbreviations? If not, maybe we need one.
No need for a manual of style though, you are all doing just fine exposing the treasonous BBC.
Formerly parasites were removed by the application of a hot cigarette end to the affected area, whereupon the unwanted organism curled up and died.
I think there might be a market for the “liberal” version of this. A large pseudo-fag carried on the roof rack, one button click to connect it to the battery and position it ready for action on the pseudo-fag. Second click, zapped liberal. Third click return to position one.
I will start the run of prototypes immediately. It may not be possible to permazap a liberal without some discomfort being caused. You will just have to tolerate a big grin on your face 24/7.
“I also noticed later on that while the EU would be quoted as simply stating something as if it was a fact, that the UK would make a ‘claim’ as if the UK statement was contentious.”
The BBC played the same word games last year during the referendum. The Remain side “stated” while the Leave side “claimed”. I used it to prove to people that the BBC wasn’t neutral and that nothing it reported could be taken on trust. Once they’d listened to some news bulletins and agreed that the bias was proven I could then give some examples of the lies they were telling, and another convert was won over from the Dark Side.
Yesterday Mark Mardell (and Lord knows how many others) winged their way out to Lake Como to hear Barnier as the wines flowed, the canapes were served and the gorgeous palaces played host with Italian extravagance.
Does anybody think that the BBC would go rushing to anything but a Hillary or EU love-in?
And make us pay for it, unless the EU are doing so?
No further details I bet, but the BBC make me sick.Liars, easily boughts and viscerally anti-British(especially English or Ulster Protestant)
I noticed something similar the other day. Remoaners were characterised as being “broadly positive about immigration” whereas Brexiteers were described as “hostile towards immigration”.
“Hostile” sounds a bit nasty, doesn’t it? The word “negative” or “sceptical” would have been better.
There’s so much of this that I couldn’t be bothered to log it on BBBC at the time. It might well have been on Today.
Or even “unconvinced of the case for the unprecedented levels of immigration seen in recent years”.
An example of where the BBC totally ignores a Christian event, even where it involves two of their favourite politicians.
http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-obama-debate-faith-and-politics/av-38986013
As a generally atheist, not secular, news machine the BBC ignores the dimension of Merkel’s faith in her motivation, as the BBC doesn’t believe any of that stuff is real or matters. You might not share it, or support it, but why should the BBC ignore it? In the same way it now usually refers to the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King as Dr Martin Luther King. The BBC which is so ridiculously fastidious in referring to ‘so called’ Islamic State does not accidentally drop the ‘Reverend’ from MLK. Does the BBC know or care that Mandela was a Christian? PW Botha? No.
I imagine that Merkel refusing to back gay marriage in the German Parliament might be due to her faith.
It`s OK to hound Tim Farron for similar, even though he backed it. But not OK to remind us all that Merkel is against it. The EU is not to be mocked or criticised for these next few years.And Merkel is their Goddess.
Hypocrites, specialists in fake news is our BBC.
Religion only seems to crop up in Beebworld if it is a. Islam or b. Christianity if it somehow shows an inversion of what the BBC thinks is ‘traditional’ Christianity. So gay and lesbian (and at a pinch, straight female) clergy are allowed. Conservative evangelical or anglo-Catholic (‘high’) churchmen don’t get a look in, even if they’re black. To be fair we still do have the excellent Choral Evensong on R3, although the traditional ten to ten morning service has been shoved onto long wave for many years and Sunday Half Hour disappeared to something like 5 am on a Wednesday.
The Beeb is all over the story of the Rohingya Muslims being persecuted. Does this put them in credit now? I think they owe us another twenty terror atttacks for this.
BB
Stuff the Muslims in Burma, and everywhere else.
Because of their history the Hindus must be allowed to carry out the initial attacks on todays Muzzies. Since one Hindu is worth ten Muzzies and 500 million Hindus have been murdered by the contemptible Muzzies an acceptable level of retribution and reprisal for Hindu suffering would be 5,000,000,000 Muzzies.
When this first phase has been completed the next phase can be determined.
Have I got the BBC’s account right on this?
Last month the BBC reported that in 1947 India became independent and all the violence was our fault because we partitioned it between the Muslim and non-Muslim populations. This month the BBC is reporting that in 1948 Burma became independent and all the violence is our fault because we didn’t partition it between the Muslim and non-Muslim populations. To the BBC the only common factor seems to be the British involvement – unless you include the fact that where ever you go the Muslim are always the victims of all this inexplicable violence
It’s strange that Canada, Australia and New Zealand became independent without turning into blood-baths.
I wonder why …..?
The BBC is reporting today that the Police need more money, are overworked and increasingly suffering from mental ill health.
Yet just the other week they were cheerleading the expansion of hate/thought crime legislation. How stressful must that be for them? Rather than focus on spiralling gang violence and terrorism (just three major attacks this year) they now have to police people’s feelings. If I had been a PC listening to the Today programme interview ‘victims of hate crime’ I probably would have dropped dead with a brain aneurysm.
The state should not concern itself with people’s thoughts – hatred is an emotion and thus exists purely in the mind.
Perhaps one could justify an objective test: would a reasonable person have been offended by the words? Judges could construe it strictly and set the bar very high, which would both prevent the floodgates from opening with a deluge of cases and send a message that it it both reasonable and prudent to have a thick skin. Perhaps repeated use of the ‘n’ word would pass the test but mere disagreement or general abuse would not.
The problem is that the test is subjective: whatever the claimant perceives to have been offensive is actionable. It is a preposterously low threshold which is open to abuse. How many jilted lovers or disgruntled former employees will try to get people in trouble on spurious grounds?
How many exchanges are there online every day? How much time and money will this cost the Police force? Ultimately could it cost lives when we know how extreme the threat of terrorism is?
Of course this is effectively a Sharia blasphemy law masquerading as a noble quest to end ‘hatred.’ In these glorious diverse days, we are only a word or cartoon away from mass rioting. So anyone who dares criticise a certain ideology too openly or to the wrong person will feel a boot stamping on their face, and this will clearly be a situation we are stuck with forever.
http://www.theonion.com/article/european-leaders-we-stand-together-say-loud-and-cl-56705
The Islamist BBC are furious.
Their LEAD story in the BBC Indian News Section is headlined: “Why a state wants to ignore India’s Mughals: Maharashtra has sparked controversy with a bid to remove Mughal history from its textbooks.”
Click onto the link and you are taken to a BBC pro-Islam propaganda video.
It begins by linking the Mughal Empire (Muslim warlords that conquered and subjugated India), to some very nice buildings in India.
It then expresses its absolute horror that one state in India should diminish its teaching of the Islamist Warlords in favour of Hindu related history relevant to the state. A BBC reporter interviews someone who says that due to limitation in book size, one school textbook has had to reduce its content on the Mughal Empire.
The BBC then says that right – wing Hindu Nationalists are on the rise and are making claims that the Mughal Empire was not very nice. The BBC then say that many Mughal Emperors were very nice Muslim people and maintained peace in India.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/asia/india
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-india-41128164/why-a-state-wants-to-ignore-part-of-india-s-history
In reality the Mughal Empire, were Muslim invaders that slaughtered millions of Hindus and Sikhs, but the BBC do not mention this.
https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history
I am asking myself why the feck are the BBC taking such a close eye on minor education matters overseas?
Because the BBC see themselves as the protectors and promoters of Islam worldwide and here they are furious that one state in India is reducing its school coverage of what it sees as the glorious Islamic past (the Mughal Empire).
I would imagine that the Mughal Empire did bring peace to India. The peace of the grave.
millions and millions and millions of hindus, oh and lets not forget the slavery lots of slavery
the british partioned india … the bastards …. but there was a reason
Just a minute, I’ll get on the phone to Saudi Arabia: I’m sure they would wish to pour millions of dollars into India to support correction of that by footing the bill.
Albeeb “100 women”
(Women especially selected, like Mary Seacole, by putting square ticks in circular boxes).
“names influential and inspirational women around the world”
“In 2017, we’re challenging them to tackle four of the biggest problems facing women today – the glass ceiling, female illiteracy, harassment in public spaces and sexism in sport”
“Some say we should include having your genitals removed without your permission, and without anaesthetic, as a problem. It’s not really a problem, it only hurts for a month or two”.
“here are nine inventions we wouldn’t have”
More AlBeeb nonsense, one of the “inventions” is a windscreen wiper “developed” in 1903, which a child of ten could see was an impractical, hare-brained design.
Quick link to comment from earlier today on previous thread
7:30pm Inside Out LONDON area has this
Extra items from Inside out regional (I listed most on the previous thread)
North east : It is 250 years since America’s Mason-Dixon Line was completed who were the two British men who created it?
East of England: What makes a teacher one of the best in the world?
SW 2008 white Moslim attacker
Playing Islamic Terrorism down
“The first bomb on the London underground was 1883”
“The number dying in attacks is going down” (only cos they include the cherrypick of Lockerbie)
South West edition decided to cover a white Muslim bomber from 2008 Exeter
– NE pointed out 510,000 people died from obesity factors during these terrorist years
(they’ve just gone into item about Cancer & the family)
“NE pointed out 510,000 people died from obesity factors during these terrorist years”
Eating like a pig is optional, being murdered isn’t.
Grooming Gangs I just found this LOCAL news
from Aug 10th “this Inside Out special investigation, Chris Jackson reports on Operation Sanctuary, the Northumbria Police enquiry into an Asian grooming gang operating in the West End of Newcastle”
Slowly slowly up and down the county Islam seeks to take political control of Britain:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41146997
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anas_Sarwar
BoBotC,
Yes, a creeping sickness is all around. Islam now moves apace to secure further rights at the expense of the Brit indigenous population. Day by day islam moves on and upward, relentlessly without any challenge. Indeed, with the assistance of our leaders and the BBC. And our leaders thoughts? What do they offer the public?
It’s a really horrid dream working itself out in real time. If only the BBC and our leaders had seen what I had seen and experienced in Saudi, perhaps things would be different but, of course, the alluring money from the Saudi’s goes along way to ‘grease the palm’ of our already, ‘greasy’ politicians.
G
Note that she praises Islam worldwide, not merely our perfect British Moslems.
Here is my conspiracy theory.
This is not Theresa May, one time incompetent Home Secretary. When Cameron quitted he was replaced by a robot Treezer. Initially it was limited to saying Brexit is Brexit, Gockle of Geer, and in response to terrorism Enough is enough. During the election it was programmed to say Strong and stable to private audiences.
But this version is more advanced and can even pronounce a few Moslem words.
However, the programmers – presumably BBC technicians – have not yet worked out how to operate the mouth. Watch her lips which are not quite in tune with the recorded audio message.
Think they spelled his first name wrong.
CBBC right now : kids doco about crime investigation ..
in the example some girl footballer has been tripped by someone called Mohammed
Sorry if this is on the other thread.
The Moggster strikes again.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/849921/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-theresa-may-tory-leader-swipe-BBC-balance-Daily-Politics-jo-coburn-video
Coburn impartial? Don’t make me laugh!
Here’s the link.
Nearly as good as his Dimblebum put down.
What a fecker that BBC person is – talking over Rees Mogg, having him in a fake environment (how fecking juvenile), her loud authoritarian tone, her leading questions. Feck the BBC. End the BBC tax.
“That’s not true”.
But it is, Jo. He said it, so it must be.
Get James Harding’s fact checker unit on it.
Sunday Times Best Seller Week 17 @ number 7 – The Strange Death of Europe {amazon affiliate}
BBC issues apology to Douglas Murray {youtube jun2017}
If only our politicians were so forthright : Douglas Murray – Charlie Hebdo on Al Jazeera {youtube}
Douglas Murray’s book ‘The Strange Death of Europe’ arrived today.
I look forward to reading it.
Perhaps the BBC could launch it as their next documentary series?
Unlikely to ever happen, my friends. Unlikely to ever happen.
I sent a copy to 10 Downing Street as well {amazon} … along with “Seeing Things as They Are: Selected Journalism and Other Writings {amazon}” by George Orwell.
Enjoy the read Dover Sentry …
“Told from this first-hand perspective, and backed with impressive research and evidence, the book addresses the disappointing failure of multiculturalism, Angela Merkel’s U-turn on migration, the lack of repatriation and the Western fixation on guilt. Murray travels to Berlin, Paris, Scandinavia, Lampedusa and Greece to uncover the malaise at the very heart of the European culture, and to hear the stories of those who have arrived in Europe from far away. In each chapter he also takes a step back to look at the bigger issues which lie behind a continent’s death-wish, answering the question of why anyone, let alone an entire civilisation, would do this to themselves? He ends with two visions of Europe – one hopeful, one pessimistic – which paint a picture of Europe in crisis and offer a choice as to what, if anything, we can do next.“
I am reading it second time around and it is probably the best book ever written that exposes the extent of political /EU indecisiveness and arrogance along with the contempt the elite left have for anyone else.
I particularly like his use of quotes comments and statistics that even the BBC fact checker couldn’t get wrong. However it also depresses me reading it and makes me wonder why there hasn’t been an uprising yet. We should look to the V4. Above all this is not a book on racism or xenophobia as the Guardian reported – it is an honest, rational and well researched piece of work that deserves to be promoted more.
Get one for everyone you know for Christmas 🙂
James,
As I have posted before, get one before it is banned.
JA,
“……makes me wonder why there hasn’t been an uprising yet.” Yes, he steers well clear of that topic, equally, the conspiracy theorists, Coudenhove-Kalgeri Plan of which there is no mention whatever.
He also, carefully avoids the likelihood of any islamic response, lets just call that, ‘The Rushdie Effect”.
Actually DS you ask a perfectly reasonable point. If Douglas Murray was a lefty liberal like Mary Beard, etc the Beeb and C4 would be jumping over themselves to commission him to produce a program, the fact that they have never done so speaks volumes. They know DM would do too good a program.
Great book.
“This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.”
Panorama. What can I say? Just as I expected this to be.
BBC4 now : Spain the long war between Christendom and Islam
BBC news live.
Korea problem.
Trump is the cause.
Morning email:
“North Korea
The US will table a resolution at the United Nations later, calling for further sanctions against North Korea, after the secretive state tested a nuclear bomb at least three times as powerful as that dropped on Hiroshima in 1945. Japan is reportedly developing plans to get 60,000 of its people out of South Korea in the event of war.
Nikki Haley, US ambassador to the UN, said her country did not want conflict but its patience with North Korea was “not unlimited”. Its leader, Kim Jong-un, was “begging for war”, she added.
North Korea’s biggest ally, China, has called for dialogue, so the crisis can be “resolved peacefully”.”
Maybe donate some Winalot and wedge the AA guns in the ‘up’ position lest a near relative of the peace loving supreme leader speaks out of turn or fails to applaud quickly enough?
Classy ? Beeboid sciency person – shouts DENIER
and stirs to try to discourage a body from renting a room to people who are not of her Climate-Alarmist tribe
Well BBC I am not happy that you employ some sciency person who tries #intimidation to censor free and fair debate
BTW she tweeted in favour of contrarians before
Anybody watch Newsnight? They opened up with North Korea. They start off with interviewing a former Ambassador, who spends the entire time telling the reporter what a nice family bloke Kim Jong-un is I kid you not.
Then we are taken on a history tour where we are told the reason why NK wants nukes is down to………GWB. Then they interview some woman who used to work at the state office and she (via web camp) is pushed by Kirsty Wark to try and agree that Bush followed by Trump is to blame for the current situation.
Whilst omitting completely that the vast amount of its nuclear program has been carried out under the democrats:
Imagine how many people who don’t know any better who will walk away blaming all this on Bush and Trump.
A Despotic dictator who murders his own family members in the most horrible ways going
And who is now threatening to do , to other countries what he has done to his people and the bBC fawns over him as a family man. Disgusting
And what exactly did the useless Obama do about NK ? The BBC worships anything which is evil, whether it is Kim or Islam. We must conclude that the BBC is itself evil.
The Norks march to the Bee Gees
The end will be when we cannot mock anyone or anything anymore … I put some Bee Gees music over North Korean marching {youtube}.
When China announced last week plans to cut off imports of coal from North Korea, a vital source of revenue for the cash-starved Hermit Kingdom, it fueled optimism that Beijing may be getting serious about reining in its erratic neighbor. … But an unpublished U.N. report obtained by Foreign Policy that documents sophisticated North Korean efforts to evade sanctions shows that China has proved a fickle partner at best in Washington’s effort to stymie Pyongyang’s nuclear ambitions. {foreignpolicy.com feb2017}
If only we could see what their real intentions are? If only North Korea could give us a hint of the future they seek, what message they tell their people day in and day out …. if only …
A celebrated family … ‘Keeping up with the Kims: North Korea’s elusive first family {bbc.co.uk aug2017}‘ … a weak reference to Kim Kardashian celebrity who generates fantasy world stories/programmes every day.
Her western style of dress and relaxed relations with her husband (Kim Jong-un) in public drew comparisons with the first lady style of Michelle Obama. (Ladies attire will save the world and turn a ruthless dictator into a respected leader)
The BBC was amongst the fan club who used to gush about the glamorous Western wife of Assad and how different he was from his father. Got that wrong eh?
The country which is finally being realised as most to blame for North Korea’s move from irritating to dangerous is China, not the US. But don’t expect that level of intellectual honesty from the BBC.
Ian Katz seems proud.
Certainly the BBC do like their opinion ‘formers’ who oddly seem to trot out what the BBC wants.
Looking at the his and BBC Newsnight comments though, it may be the BBC is again not ‘speaking for the nation’.
Ian Katz, Editor, BBC Newsnight // Salary: £151,600 / Remuneration: £151,600 {bbc.co.uk}
Mr Ian Katz / External / hospitality / Business Entertainment – External // Contact 06/09/2016 £113.84
“Fmr UK ambo to Pyongyang John Everard says Kim Jong-un is affable man who likes finer things …like entertaining on his yacht #newsnight”
Ian Katz Taxis MINICAB 23/03/2015 £14.88 0 Late taxi home {bbc expenses}
– Ian Katz, Editor, BBC Newsnight £138.84 for wine and sandwiches? The payers for this who have to pay Katz wages under threat of prison will never know.
– Wonder if Ian Katz claimed for overtime as well? Tax for £14.88 when everyone else’s pay has been reduced and expenses cut back and he gets paid £151K per year!
The Beeb have nobly jetted a team off to Myanmar to report on the plight of the Rohingya Muslims. No journalist to report on the infidel girls abused in Huddersfield but I imagine they could not afford to send anyone there.
They must hope some Catholic fiddles kids somewhere exotic like Melbourne like the other month. They could get loads of free holidays out of that.
Beeb,
Not much on the Genocide of christians in the ME either. But I guess it is ok as it is being done by muslims. The BBC’s obsession with Islam is psychopathic.
This is a list of targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims since September 11th, 2001. {thereligionofpeace.com}
2017.09.03 ; Kenya;Ukunda ;2 Killed; 2 Injured;
Suspected al-Shabaab members open fire on a church during service, killing two guards.
…
2017.07.08 ;Kenya; Poromoko; 13 Killed;
Thirteen Christians are beheaded after being unable to recite Islamic (Religion of Peace) dogma.
Blimey, this sounds unusual for the BBC – a Beeb reporter speaking rather positively about a wide range of government initiatives “touching on almost every aspect of life”.
Well, I suppose how much you might welcome this uncharacteristic level of positivity from the national broadcaster very much depends on whether you think it a generally good idea for the government to touch alomost every aspect of your life.
Oh, just a minute, let me clarify – this is Nicola Sturgeon’s SNP Scottish Government’s set of proposed Bills the BBC were welcoming. You didn’t think the British Tory admistration was getting a positive spin this morning, did you?
Today’s Murder or Morning Sickness
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4390698/newham-forest-gate-double-shooting-london-latest/
‘TWO men have been gunned down in a London neighbourhood – with one fighting for his life’
Our pleasantly cheerful BBC London News anchor Claudia Unpronouceable casually relates the line that armed Police are in the area in force “…amid fears of a retaliation…”
Makes you nostalgic for the Kray Brothers, don’t it?
As far as I can see mainstream national BBC tv news are ignoring the story, meanwhile spending time on a guest to the studio telling us all about her morning sickness.
Paul Leighton jailed for rapes (& blackmail of 100 children) thousands of miles away {bbc.co.uk sep2017}
“A paedophile has been jailed for 16 years after admitting rape, despite being thousands of miles away when the offences happened. … Paul Leighton, 32, from Seaham, County Durham, created up to 40 fake Facebook profiles to befriend teenagers in the UK, Canada, the US and Australia. … The court heard one 14-year-old from Florida was tricked into believing he was talking to a girl, then blackmailed into repeatedly raping his one-year-old niece.”
– Not very prominent in the BBC news order (7th text only), 1 hour ago and beaten by a story of “Azerbaijan ‘operated secret $3bn secret slush fund'” 2hours ago
– Very sickening story, a warning to every parent in the UK
– Doesn’t give cannabis a good reputation
– When officers examined his phone they found evidence that as many as 100 children in North America had been abused.
– Prison sentence is 16 years, out in 8?
– Send him to the country with the most severe and unpleasant prison sentence, paid for by the UK.
We have a competitor for Today’s Murder story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41156211
‘Hounslow stabbing: Man dies in fight between two groups’
Despite the gang warfare on the streets of our capital when you google BBC London News online you land on:
‘Grenfell Tower: ‘Twenty suicide attempts’ since fire By Sean Clare BBC Victoria Derbyshire programme’
Wow, sounds serious. ‘Silence of Suicide founder Yvette Greenway told the BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire programme the number was based on conversations with those supporting residents.’ Oh really? Reassure me this is not simply some public sector lefty lobbying for more funding latching onto the Grenfell tragedy. ‘The BBC has been unable to independently verify the figure.’ So why broadcast fake news?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41148877
‘Based on conversations with activists.’ Now that is real journalistic rigour:
Were those the activists who claimed that hundreds of people had died? Maybe they were talking to Lily Allen, the Voice of Truth.
Do you feel suicidal? Please note that a YES will bring you more notoriety and possibly Government money, a NO means you will be ignored for the rest of the interview with no extra money.
BBC – Back it up with names of people and doctors opinion.
It’s just like this ethnic minority young man who was supposedly groomed by multiple men. To protect his identity he was played by an actor in their short film.
Until the case goes to court I refuse to believe they have not just made him up.
There is a good clip on YouTube with Jim Davidson sparring with Richard Bacon. Bacon reads out a text which conveniently supports his argument and Jim Davidson accuses him of just making up. Bacon’s awkward pause is telling – they clearly lie but justify it because their ultimate goal is ostensibly noble.
I think the media’s tantrum with Trump is not just because of his politics but because he is exposing how dishonest they are. They have been getting away with murder for decades. That they go all in against him yet still lose must feel emasculating. It is the same with Brexit.
Beeb,
I think that no journalists should be allowed to quote “anonymous” sources. I mean who would trust a journalist or politician to tell the truth ?
They should quote the sources as otherwise it is so massively open to abuse.
Another thing I hate is ‘leaks.’ It’s just a way of sexing up propaghanda, like when the Beeb ran with a ‘leak’ from an accountancy firm which just happened to support their Brexit agenda. There is a never a ‘leak’ from an organisation which thinks the liberal elite are a bunch of c**ts.
Why can’t they just say what happened, where and when? It’s always ‘sources’, leaks, isolated narratives, opinions and craftily edited recordings.
Just swallow 100 Paracetamol. Go somewhere high up and jump off. What is all this ‘attempt’ nonsense about? You’re not trying to break the world high jump record. If you really want to kill yourself it’s easily done.
I bet none have actually committed suicide which is the only fact that counts to me, though in Beebland feelings trump facts.
With the lawyers rubbing their hands, I bet the fire will turn out to be extremely lucrative for those involved. They will be set up for life.
Beeb Brother,
“Just swallow 100 Paracetamol. Go somewhere high up and jump off. What is all this ‘attempt’ nonsense about? You’re not trying to break the world high jump record. If you really want to kill yourself it’s easily done.
I bet none have actually committed suicide which is the only fact that counts to me…”
Well done, “Beeb Brother”; you deserve an award for the dumbest and transparently ignorant post of the day.
Troll alert!
Good old Jon Snow,
interviewing Icelandic Foreign Minister about the possibility of UK joining EFTA. Icelandic FM..says everyone wants to trade with Uk…Jon Snow…’really?…IFM yes you are the 5th largest economy in world….so the JS says ah yes but you re under laws of EU arn’t you?
IFM, no that is EEA not EFTA… ah yes but says JS.. and so it goes on…Then JS pushes IFM to say whether he thinks UK should stay in EU…no luck there either…What a complete idiot is JS. Rather than just listen to what the chap had to say about how the UK could work in EFTA he took every opportunity to push on why we couldn’t. I despair…
So regards that Black bloke who was sacked for calling out all white people as racists whom the bBC (and the media) have made into some sort of freedom fighter for equality. Turns out he’s half white. (Jamaican dad, White English mum) I wonder why nobody has bothered asking if he thinks his mum is a racist:
UK: Trans man Munroe Bergdorf who said all white people are racist is half white himself.
Was Munroe Bergdorf’s dad a racist/sexist?
“What the root of racism, what the root of sexism is. And sexism doesn’t come from women (says a man who says he’s a women). So of course it’s caused by men. (which is true because he made a racist remark, proving it all true)” {youtube – Racism: Piers Morgan vs. Munroe Bergdorf – @2:50}
BBC goes into the meat trade (literal, not no-go Rotherham variety):
“This farm shop in Lancashire was on the brink of shutting down before its owners made the switch to Halal meat.
(via BBC Asian Network)”
Jeremy Corbyn will be thrilled.
Diners ‘unknowingly eating Halal’ at Wembley {bbc.co.uk sep2010}
“Sporting venues across London routinely serve Halal meat to customers without informing them, it has emerged. … Many Muslims only eat Halal meat, which is from animals whose throats have been cut to drain them of blood while they are still alive and conscious.”
What is halal meat? {bbc.co.uk may2014}
“The Islamic form of slaughtering animals or poultry, dhabiha, involves killing through a cut to the jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe. … Animals must be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter and all blood is drained from the carcass. During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.”
– BBC 2010 report omits incantation to Allah
– BBC 2014 uses words ‘blood is drained from the carcass‘ rather than 2010 – ‘still alive and conscious‘ (some improvement as introducing stunning?)
– BBC 2014 Stunning cannot be used to kill an animal, according to the ‘Halal Food Authority’ ( ‘Morality Police’? Plus they still want it alive and conscious)
Hold on here … go to the ‘Halal Food Authority – Definitions Of Halal‘ …..
… a Muslim will recite tasmiya orshahada … (not allowed by a non-Muslim)
1. An animal should not be dead prior to slaughter
2. A Muslim should perform slaughter (for Halal – MUSLIMS NEED ONLY APPLY!)
3. Any flowing blood of the carcass should be completely drained
4. Choice of modern and in vogue method has to be considered with caution and, it should be in line with Islamic principles (Sharia principles)
– For Halal – MUSLIMS NEED ONLY APPLY – if this is true then it’s religious/employment discrimination/privilege at the slaughter work place.
Relates to “This farm shop in Lancashire was on the brink of shutting down before its owners made the switch to Halal meat. (via BBC Asian Network)” post by Guest Who – video does not explain what is Halal is or the process
… so it’s all lovely …
“..she’s my best friend (women who introduced Halal), because she put me on the road, the right way. (selling Halal meat)” -Butcher in video
MarkyMark
‘During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.”’
For every chicken? For every animal getting its throat cut.
Not quite. The prayer is blasted out on loudspeakers as the animals proceed along a conveyor belt of slaughter
Let us be clear what the BBC and their appointed Government are supporting regarding halal meat.
One of Britain’s largest halal slaughterhouses is under investigation over allegations of animal cruelty
One of Britain’s largest slaughterhouses is being investigated for animal cruelty
Malik Food Group claims to be ‘Premium’ producer of various meats
Undercover footage shows a slaughterman roughly sawing at the necks of sheep
The horrific footage took place at Dunnockshaw Farm, near Burnley
, 9 May 2017
Undercover filming claims to show a slaughterman repeatedly sawing at the necks of sheep with a knife as they pass down a conveyor belt.
The animals appear not to have been killed instantly – as should be the case – and some were seen fitting and jumping as they went down the line.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4391914/Halal-slaughterhouse-investigated-animal-cruelty.html#ixzz4rnlqH7OA
BBC not interested. It isn’t G4S.
Is it pre-recorded or has to be in person? G.W.F. – ‘During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.’
– i.e only a Muslim can do it?
MarkyMark
Good question, I cannot say for certain, but assumed the dreadful noise had been pre-recorded by a Moslem
If that is the case (pre-recorded shahada) then does that break a Hadith or two based on the photograph rulings ….
Photography (tasweer) means the taking of pictures of living, animate moving beings, like people, animals, birds, etc. The ruling is that it is forbidden on the basis of a number of reports … {islamqa.info}
It seems to me that if anyone relied entirely on the BBC (especially in the form of the Today programme) to understand the Bell Pottinger affair, they would be left wanting (or is it just me?). ‘Today’ seems to have laundered their explanation in order to make the outrageous behaviour of BP as obscure as possible. They did mention Gupta and Zuma and that the BP was accused of stoking ‘racial tensions’, but without explaining exactly what the ‘racial tensions’ were. So I spent some time digging into this via the Democratic Alliance (SA) web sites and others, and eventually found the clearest account in The Guardian (there’s a novelty!) https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/04/potentially-racially-divisive-report-censures-pr-firm-bell-pottinger
“Certain material that we have seen that was created for the campaign was negative or targeted towards wealthy white South African individuals or corporates and/or was potentially racially divisive and/or potentially offensive and was created in breach of relevant ethical principles,” said the law firm. “The firm is accused of stirring up anger about “white monopoly capital” [i.e. it was a smear campaign against whites] and the “economic apartheid” to draw attention away from the controversial Guptas, who run a media to mining conglomerate and have been accused of benefiting [and certainly did] financially from their close links to the South African president, Jacob Zuma. [my insertions in square brackets]
A correspondent in SA says: ” Bell Pottinger … were given a brief to come up with a campaign to sow racial discord and cover up for the dirty deeds [that the Guptas and Zumas] carried out. On behalf of the Gupta-owned Oakbay Capital, they carried out a racist campaign targeting whites in this country. People are being killed in SA because they are white and Bell Pottinger were paid for developing and promoting a policy that blame White South Africans for stealing all the money/capitol – to deflect the [ANC] government’s and the Gupta’s theft of billions of Rands is nothing less than colluding in this theft and murder”.
And another comment from SA: “The ‘white monopoly capital campaign’ targeted then Finance Minister, Pravin Gordhan and his deputy Mcebisi Jonas, who tried to expose the Gupta’s influence”.
————–
It is shocking, but not surprising, that ‘Today’ was careful only to mention a ‘racial campaign’ without explaining that it was a racial campaign against whites. That would have overtuned the left’s mantra that racialism can only work one way. The BBC, biased and corrupt in every nook and cranny.
I thought the reporter might actually orgasm as her discussed the case. Imagine if there had been ‘institutional racism’ involved! They would all be masturbating in a circle for weeks.
” racial campaign” note still not racist!
im pretty sure that many people who have listened to bbc snippets for the past month or two wont have twigged that Bell Pottinger were running an anti-white campaign
BBC website reporting on another white rapist. We really need to address issues in our community. There is clearly an endemic problem of isolated individuals committing these crimes on a tiny scale, often involving imaginary friends and family members.
They really are beneath contempt. Do they now have a someone whose official job title is to search for white paedophiles? There seem to have been an awful lot reported on recently.
More brexit lunacy not the beeb but the irish times and a conservative mep
‘To be honest, I am quite ashamed to be British in many ways’
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/conservative-mep-among-new-recipients-of-irish-passport-1.3208089
“If my model were adopted – to stay in the single market and the customs union – there would be no Border problem in Ireland. Instead they have decided that Brexit means Brexit, there has to be a total divorce and Europe has to become something quite alien. They have this ludicrous idea, led by someone like [international trade secretary] Liam Fox that somehow the EU has stopped Britain trading with the world. I have always said that if that was so, Germany would have left the club decades ago.”
– So it is a club and not a divorce – according to Charles Tannock – PROGRESS!
Why doesn’t Tannock piss off and go and live in Ireland ?
Does your job pay less than it did five years ago? (2012) {bbc.co.uk sep2017} … no mention of Politicians or BBC jobs and pay increases and expenses allowed in BBC and mega wages and increases here …
“Wage stagnation and an ever increasing cost of living have left many people feeling poorer over the last few years.
But for some workers skills shortages mean pay has shot up. So is your job on the rise or is it time to explore the market? Try out our calculator, then scroll down to find out the jobs market’s winners and losers…”
‘BBC Director’ = Sorry, we don’t recognise this job title
‘Politician’ = Sorry, we don’t recognise this job title
‘TV Presenter’ = Sorry, we don’t recognise this job title
‘Radio Presenter’ = Sorry, we don’t recognise this job title
Marky,
“Journalist ” = We don’t recognise this job title
BBC World service made a “mistake” this morning by giving an unscripted interviewee the opportunity to give the Myanmar governments response to media claims of ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar. . His explanation that the Rothingya Muslims in their majority region had persecuted and killed many non- Rothingya minorities did not suit the BBC agenda ! The interview was quickly terminated at this point.
Lynette,
There is no excuse for the crimes being committed but , if the BBC was impartial, it would also refer to the decades of Rohingya terrorism against the Myanmar State. Maybe they have, but I doubt if they have. In simple minds of the BBC, all muslims are good and all non-muslims are bad.
‘The interview (BBC WS) was quickly terminated at this point.’ (LynetteO) – suspect they are trying to be non-biased but realise they don’t like what they are hearing.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear” – George Orwell
Suggested reading for the BBC … “Seeing Things as They Are: Selected Journalism and Other Writings: George Orwell {amazon}“.
Lynette,
Regards Burma here is a little more information that what the bBC puts out:
Myanmar : The Rohingya problem, nobody wants to deal with:
Turkey’s president describes it as ‘genocide’, presumably to distinguish it from what didn’t happen to Greeks and Armenians in Turkey.
The BBC is happy to add fuel to the fire by peddling rumour, but so far as I know hasn’t reported a single substantiated massacre by Myanmar troops. Unlike the sectarian massacres carried out by Muslims worldwide.
you could see the angle as soon as the so called bbc started it propaganda on behalf of the Rohingya Muslims, no mention of the back story, just all of a sudden buddists have become oddly murderous.
Without even knowing the history here, I think many people can work out the likely circumstances which led to this point.
Erdogan also said last year …. Migrant crisis: Turkey (Erdogan) threatens EU with new surge (EU Tax Payers are paying Erdogan £2.6 billion) {bbc.co.uk nov2016}
“Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned that he will let hundreds of thousands of migrants travel on to Europe if pushed by the EU.
…
‘Listen to me: these border gates (for Illegal Immigrants) will be opened if you (European Union) go any further,’ he warned the EU on Friday.”
Video shows beaming teachers filming class field trip to mosque where submission is spun as fun … {israelnationalnews.com aug2017} … now ask the Imam if Muslim children and adults can go to a Christian Church for holy Communion service … interesting ….
ahh lovely for the bbc it seems we’ve found some white british terrorists
arrests
only problem is their “terror” appears to be thought terror
and this guy gets an invite to parliament whilst holding similar ones
Lunacy “…to make sure this bar isn’t just a normal bar, the Mayor’s office (Sadiq Khan, Muslim Mayor) , according to the Guardian, will send an inspector to make sure it’s gay enough…” {youtube – Mark Steyn – aug2017 – @06:31}
But isn’t that prejudiced against heterosexuals?
“H-” would be easier than “LGBT”, everyone except heterosexuals … would save having to add letters each week and redrawing the placards.
It may be used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender, instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender {wiki}
WTF is non-cisgender, I can’t keep up with it all?
I could google it, but I don’t need to know what it means, so I won’t bother.
BBC Search for ‘Sheikh Sabri’ brings nothing about hate preacher visiting the UK? Is this a hoax or real story because the BBC ignore it?
Top story in search that is possibly linked so same guy on BBC is …. Abbas ‘considering death penalty’ {bbc.co.uk feb2005}
“Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas Mahmoud Abbas is under pressure to crack down on crime. Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas is considering bringing back the use of death sentences in a bid to keep law and order in the Gaza Strip. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Ikrima Sabri (different spelling to Sheikh Ekrima Sa’id Sabri), told Reuters news agency Mr Abbas had asked him for an Islamic legal ruling on the death penalty.”
– Does subtle name changes throw the searching of events? Ikrima or Ekrima?
– BBC Search for ‘Sheikh Ekrima‘ (instead of Ikrima) returns different stories but mentions ‘Grand Mufti’
Relates to : Anti-Semitic Hate Preacher (Sheikh Ekrima Sa’id Sabri) Who Called for Destruction of U.S. and Britain Heading to UK {breitbart sep2017}
Why was he issued with a visa ?
The application for a visa has not been made by Sabri, the Home Office commented {express sep2017}
“Sheikh Ekrima Sabri, a former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and current Imam of the city’s Al-Aqsa Mosque, will visit Britain as part of a delegation organised by Pro-Palestinian group EuroPal, according to Jewish News Online.”
Marky,
Well I have been through the visa process when my wife applied for a UK visa. The law at that time was that the applicant had to be the individual who wanted to travel. The document is stamped into the applicant’s passport. Maybe the law has changed or some people are above the law .
Entry denied. Let us hope so.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/09/05/entry-denied-anti-semitic-hate-preacher-barred-visiting-uk/
The Tory MPs jockeying for places on the Brexit Select Committee – 14 candidates for 10 places.
http://brexitcentral.com/revealed-tory-mps-jockeying-places-brexit-select-committee/
Rohingya insurgency in Western Myanmar –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar
Read about what the dishonest BBC will not tell you, satisfying itself by simply claiming there has been ‘clashes’ between Rohingya militants and Government forces so as to not shine a light on evil muslims which have become the root cause of trouble Worldwide.
And more about the religion of peace and this matter –
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/tag/terrorism-in-burma/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-security-rohingya/myanmar-faces-danger-from-islamic-state-militants-malaysian-police-say-idUSKBN14O0PX
Clearly, apportioning blame is not a simple matter as the one-sided BBC want to make out.
I received a panting news update from the BBC about some Nazis. I lose sleep worrying about the threat of the ‘far right.’
Do they not realise that the Third Reich ended over seventy years ago? The modern threat is different but could well end up feeling quite similar: totalitarian; no minority rights; gays and others persecuted. Bizarrely they do everything in their power to support that ideology. We can all see how well appeasement is working. Just show them enough love and they will love us back, right?
Beeb,
Plod said ” There had been no threat to the public’s safety “.
Was it really worthy of a news flash to my phone?
Back in July, I posted a comment regarding Hillary Clinton’s forthcoming book, and wondered whether the BBC would publicise it, since it comes with the really clueless title of “What Happened” (apparently she agonised for weeks over the title, and this was still the best she could come up with).
Finally, there is an update! Prez Trump’s side has responded (apologies in advance, I’m afraid I don’t know how to resize this):
Chortle on!
Right,
LOL !! It will be interesting to see the sales figures for Hillary’s book. I mean, who would want to read it ?
BBC not interested in Hillary Clinton? BBC Search for ‘clinton book tour’ – no book tour results?
Why no Hillary Book Reviews when the BBC report on Russell Brand and pay for him to appear on shows {youtube QT 2014}?
Hillary – the live show: Clinton to tell audiences her ‘personal, raw, detailed and surprisingly funny story’ in unprecedented nationwide tour with tickets selling for up to $1,200 {dailymail aug2017}
There are cheaper seats in the states with tickets costing between $50 and $350 to see Clinton in Broward, Florida – another state that she lost to now-President Trump.
Marky,
” Funny “. Hillary with a sense of humour ? Now that is really funny !
Edinburgh uni : BME bigot with a grievance tries to get white boy from ex pressing his opinion on Facebook
… The SJW rule is that “terrorism has nothing to do with Islam”
Yet she says his open opinion about ISIS is Islamophobia which intimidates Muslim students.
Stew,
Plod is not investigating this, so far. It seems that Edin. Uni. considers anti-ISIS comments as a hate crime . Once there is no freedom of speech in universities, any society is in real trouble.
Stew,
I looked into that story and found out so much more:
Scotland: White Student investigated for hate crime after he congratulated USAF for bombing ISIS
Which exposes the ugliness of the BME crowd in the UK
BBC Online News:
Neo-Nazi arrests: National Action suspects ‘are in the Army’
“”National Action describes itself as a “National Socialist youth organisation” and says its movement is aimed at the “broken right-wing”.””
“”Ms Rudd called it “a racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic organisation”.””
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41161233
Any similarities with ‘other’ organisations?
A most peculiar story.
I have to say I don’t have much sympathy with a group that calls itself a “National Socialist youth organisation”. If the BBC story is to be taken at face value, they seem a thoroughly unpleasant lot. It’s the fact that they appear to have been arrested for “thought crime” that worries me. A bit like Minority Report without the PreCogs.
After years of complaining here that the BBC won’t use the word terrorism when it clearly applies, the authorities now look like they are using the word when it doesn’t. The the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism appears to cover merely being a member of a group the Government has decided might be a danger to others. Yet we could all, I’m sure, think of other groups that surely represent a far greater danger who are positively fawned over by the authorities and the BBC.
Roland ,
Good point, in the UK I am told people who murder,death, kill ,rape and oppress on an almost weekly basis are victims and that everybody else is an intolerable racist bigot.
RD,
‘Conservatives’?
R4 1pm news began with story about “far-right National Action” story
Report ended after 1 minute with
“Oh they have no record of violence”
Next story is about the failure to police FGM
Their biggest offence in the BBC report is sending tweets
eg \\tweets in 2016 about the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox,
…. One such tweet said there were “only 649 MPs to go”. //
I’ve noticed that, and as the army are involved, no doubt the bBC will not only keep this story on the boil but use it it in which to promote the view that all white British Army members are Nazis wannabes . Now before I go on, I’m firmly of the belief that people in Uniform caught up to no good should be treated harsher than anybody else. Its the only way for the continued respect they receive. That said as mentioned above the only bad thing these idiots have done is tweet. (If anybody has anything else to bring to the table please do) . They supported the death of Jo Cox and her fellow MPS and as such the establishment has decided to make an example.
A couple of years back, I mentioned the fatwa against Salman Rushdie and received a flurry of lively e-mails. It was Valentine’s Day 1989, you’ll recall, when the Ayatollah Khomeini issued his extraterritorial summary judgment on a British subject, and shortly thereafter large numbers of British Muslims were marching through English cities openly calling for Rushdie to be killed.
A reader in Bradford recalled asking a West Yorkshire officer on the street that day why the various “Muslim community leaders” weren’t being arrested for incitement to murder. The officer said they’d been told to “play it cool”. The calls for blood got more raucous. My correspondent asked his question again. The policeman told him to “F— off, or I’ll arrest you.”
The Churchill Bust {steynonline.com apr2014}
Pounce,
The scum at the BBC will take any chance to denigrate the British military while at the same time worshipping any military from a country which are our enemies .
“British Police go to Hell!” {youtube Non muslims destined to go to hell, British Police Go To Hell Muslim Extremists. Luton may 2013}
– Luton, just 4 years ago, how many arrests that day?
– Anjem Choudary makes an appearance!
“only 649 MPs to go”
That tweets is obviously rhetorical ..and a prosecution wouldn’t stand up in court.
It’d be like saying someone humming “F*ck the police” is inciting rape of police officers.
Now in London : kid’s library storytime with drag queens
Wilton’s Whitechapel
And in the real world. Any parent faced with a bearded bloke wearing a tutu wanting to read to their children would tell the creep to f-k off or make him worthy of wearing such attire.
Pounce,
It is child abuse but I would not be sure that the kids fall for it.
Join us for Drag Queen Story Time and Craft with drag queen Loretta Good Lordchild at Green Bean Books on Saturday, August 26th at 1 p.m.
Drag Queen Story Time was created to inspire creativity, and encourage open and accepting minds. Loretta’s glamorous performance shows kids that dress-up is for everyone and challenges strict gender definitions. Drag Queen Story Time presents positive gender-fluid role models and a glimpse of a world where people can present as they wish!
Join us. It’s free!
Transgender Spectrum-Related Vocabulary, Slang & Terminology
Cisgender:
Someone whose gender identity matches the gender role they were assigned at birth; a person who is not transgender. The Latin prefix ‘cis’ means “on the same side of.” Cisgender is preferable to “biological,” “genetic” or “real” male or female.
Cisgender Privilege:
The privileges cisgender people have because their gender identity matches their assigned gender role and because they are considered ‘normal.’ For example, cisgender people don’t have to worry about violence and institutionalized discrimination simply due to the fact they are cisgender.
Cissexism/Cisgender Supremacy:
The institutional and societal marginalization of transgender identified persons; expressing hate and bigotry toward transgender people.
Misgendering:
To refer to a person using terms (pronouns, nouns, adjectives, etc.) that express the wrong gender, either accidentally or on purpose. Calling a transgender woman ‘Sir’ or transgender boy ‘Miss.’
Please note, only ‘Cisgender’ have privilege.
“Alice laughed: “There’s no use trying,” she said; “one can’t believe impossible things.” “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
The blurb for the London show is less obvious than that
but the agenda is clear in the title
: “WILTON’S MUSIC HALL OFFERS GENDER-FLUID STORIES FOR CHILDREN”
“will encourage children to be true to themselves, feel confident and to embrace differences between themselves and others, no matter what those differences may be.”
I would say pantomime is different, it doesn’t actually set any role models to children
rather it’s theatre with the exaggeration ie Dames are much uglier than real women
and First boy has obvious female sexuality.
It’s message is that men and women are different.
https://www.curtaincallonline.com/news/detail/wiltons-music-hall-offers-gender-fluid-stories-for-children/248
Am I the only one thinking someone should be shouting ‘He’s behind you’, or singing ‘Why does a brown cow give white milk when it only eats green grass …’
I can’t help thinking this is a sign of a society on its last legs.
They’re probably wondering why Widow Twankey is reading to them today.
This site is like a breath of fresh air. When watching anything on the BBC I’m always left wondering if I’m the only one that can see their blatant attempts at brainwashing and instilling their hideous left wing agenda on us.
Please use this link to complain directly as, let’s face it, they will not view or respond to anything posted here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/
Charna,
This site is therapeutic. It keeps me sane .
Tweet the programme makers straight away
chip, chip, chip does work
although.. Twitter is being censored these days ..with tricks like slow moderation, shadow banning etc.