START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…..

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  1. Pounce says:

    Why you cannot trust the bBC anymore:
    Notting Hill Carnival: Thousands enjoy sound, salsa and sun
    Hundreds of thousands of revellers have descended on Notting Hill for the second day of carnival, which is being held in the shadow of Grenfell Tower. At least 80 people died during the blaze at the west London block in June. On Sunday, the carnival’s opening ceremony paid tribute to the victims and the sound systems were turned off for a minute’s silence. The Met Police said there were 122 arrests on Sunday, a fall of about 20% on last year.The police are putting the lower arrest figures possibly down to what they’re calling the Grenfell effect. It’s added a degree of poignancy that has seen minute’s silences held here, and people dress in green as a tribute to those who lost their lives. But I think most of that is far from most people’s minds; what most people are concentrating on is having a good time at carnival this year.

    And here is a video of the people of Notting hill enjoying themselves as only the poor victims of racism in the UK can:

    Acid attack on crowd of revellers at Notting Hill Carnival

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    • G.W.F. says:

      ‘There is more what unites us that what divides us’, said St Jo.

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    • maxincony says:

      Pounce,

      Why you cannot trust the bBC anymore:
      Notting Hill Carnival: Thousands enjoy sound, salsa and sun

      …And here is a video of the people of Notting hill enjoying themselves as only the poor victims of racism in the UK can

      The video is from 2015.

      Why you cannot trust ‘Pounce’ ever

      …And here is a video of the indigenous English people enjoying themselves as only the poor dumb White English people can:

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      • Dave S says:

        Interesting that you feel able to use such a phrase as ‘poor dumb white English. Reveals much about you. And not to your credit. Were anyone to use a comparable phrase about an ethnic minority then all hell would break loose. Twitter outrage to the fore.
        You have discredited yourself not anyone else.

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        • maxincony says:

          Dave S,

          parody

          noun

          1. an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.

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          • Dave S says:

            Sorry I just find you dull. Really dull. And that is an unconvincing attempt to deflect criticism and you know it.

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            • TruthSeeker says:

              DS
              He drew the night shift, again.
              No expenses paid (by us) holidays in the sun, twittering to the Guardian from the hotel bar.
              Hence his, because I cannot believe the perpetrator is female, typical aggressive Muzzie response.
              With an IQ of 44, the response took 44 minutes. He probably needed help with his homework.
              He probably got full marks for hate though, one lesson per day, every day, 23 hours 59 minutes.

              I am now going to bed, so any fly swatting needed will take place later.

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              • maxincony says:

                TruthSeeker,

                …typical aggressive Muzzie response… an IQ of 44… probably got full marks for hate…

                All because I correctly pointed out that ‘Pounce’ was misleadingly using a video from two years ago.

                You’re a pathetic specimen, ‘TruthSeeker’.

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                • TruthSeeker says:

                  minibrainy
                  Half an hour for the thought processes to function between responses.
                  Perhaps due to a bowel problem.

                  “correctly pointed out that ‘Pounce’ was misleadingly using a video from two years ago”
                  Misleading, bollox, any video would show the behaviour “enjoyed” at this “Carnival”.

                  You are the one attempting, and failing badly, at misleading, 0/10.

                  “All because” etc, are you in the chocolate advertising business?
                  Pathetic explanation with no relevance whatsoever, as already demonstrated by Dave S.

                  “as only the poor dumb White English people” is the “All Because”.

                  But do carry on insulting us, while you are at the keyboard, demonstrating your mental illness, you are not stabbing, bombing, parking badly or otherewise indulging in behaviour suitable for one million years BC.

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      • Grimer says:

        I was at the carnival a few years ago waiting to cross a road. A glass bottle was thrown in a high arc and fell at my feet. It was lucky not to have hit my head. The low IQ thugs that randomly throw glass bottles at strangers for ‘laughs’ can’t be compared to some drunk idiots fighting over football.

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        • maxincony says:

          Grimer,

          low IQ thugs can’t be compared to drunk idiots

          Pure genius, Grimer.

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      • Al Shubtill says:

        Welcome back maxi! How was Charlottesville?

        There is no need to describe English people (poor; dumb or otherwise) as “indigenous” just “English” will suffice.
        After all no one would write about: “indigenous Chinese”; “indigenous Yemenis” or “indigenous Ugandans” when referring to them in their own countries would they?

        Great to read the SJW ordure you eke out of your keyboard and onto this site again though.

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      • taffman says:

        Good Evening Maxi , back on Troll again?
        So where is your evidence of Al Beeb’s Bias? Do you have any, Left or Right?

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      • Roderick says:

        That looks and sounds suspiciously like a Scottish scene to me. I thought the Scots were to be described as British only when they were winning a game of tennis.

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      • BlackCountryWench says:

        What a genuinely unpleasant person you are. You really, really show yourself up with this comment.

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    • Mice Height says:

      Such a beautiful sight, seeing these youngsters carrying on this fine tradition. Next year they’ll be old enough to attend on the Monday and use knives instead of fists.

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    • lojolondon says:

      Great post, Pounce – meanwhile the BiasedBBC airbrushes over the festival of love – down under ‘London’ section of the website – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41072954
      Can you just imagine if over 300 people were arrested at an EDL march?? Or any other event, even a football match?? It would be front page for months. BiasedBBC – #STOPTVTAX.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Video from 2015 ?
        Yes could well be
        You can click the tweet time to open up the thread.
        “There was no Children’s Day this year”
        Seems correct as no tweets mention it.
        The ground looks wet as if it was raining.
        Yes in a parade of million people you a video of 100 thugs isn’t the biggest deal.
        Its the cumulative crime that counts.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Zulus sir! Thousands of ’em!

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  2. Synchronised says:

    RT at the moment talking about austerity. Many pointing out the benefits of a sovereign currency and the folly of the Euro and how a country like Italy has become a hostage to the European.

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    • Synchronised says:

      Sorry. Euro.

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    • maxincony says:

      Synchronised,

      Many pointing out the benefits of a sovereign currency and the folly of the Euro…

      Eurozone GDP grew at twice the rate of UK in second quarter of 2017
      http://tinyurl.com/yb56tduh

      Oops

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      • Dave S says:

        If your reporters actually did the job they are paid to do then maybe just maybe they would find out things like car exports through Southampton are at such a level there is no more siding space for the trains. That BMW are building a holding facility in the Western docks because of pressure of space and that total export tonnage all types is at record levels . But then BBc does not do facts just opinion.

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        • Dave S says:

          I forgot to mention that the precision engineering sector is at full stretch – despite Brexit. Try and place an order for immediate delivery and just see. Just stop it. Talking down my country is really getting up my nose .

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        • maxincony says:

          Dave S,

          f your reporters actually did the job they are paid to do then maybe just maybe they would find out things like car exports…

          Ah yes, because GDP figures completely ignore things like “car exports”…

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      • Synchronised says:

        Try telling the Greeks & Italians etc. how great the Eurozone economy is. The people who are truly effected see the reality.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Aaah, Maxi! On to economics instead of disparaging and name calling. Good.

        You are correct, the Eurozone did do better than UK in Q2.

        But … but … if you remember what good old Steffie would have warned us about had she been here, GDP figures often have one or two re-adjustments later in the light of fresh information. In addition, she would always warn that one Q’s numbers were nothing to get too frantic about. That was for politicians and media types who were less educated in the ways of economics.

        It is more important to look at longer trends.

        However, the stats that pro-EU/Eurozone supporters rarely mention is that of world trade as a whole and the EU’s and Eurozone’s share of that trade. That is falling, at least for the EU of which the UK is still a part. Our share of EU trade is also falling, down by approx. one third 1992-2015 and has continued to decline.

        A half-decent economist or observer would be disquieted by that and might be inclined to think ‘Leaving the EU is definitely a good idea.’ .

        What do you think? Good to go?

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  3. john in cheshire says:

    I’ll begin to believe that we’re on the path to normalisation of our country when this carnival is banned

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    • Synchronised says:

      On Sky a couple of participants were suggesting that the Caribbean community is one big family. The inter island infighting within the Cricket world would counter that view.

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    • maxincony says:

      john in cheshire,

      I’ll begin to believe that we’re on the path to normalisation of our country when this carnival is banned

      The Notting Hill Carnival has such an enormous impact on your life in Cheshire, huh?

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      • Dave S says:

        Probably not but it is one more reason for us country boys to give London a miss . You like it you can have it.

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        • taffman says:

          Maxi
          “The Notting Hill Carnival has such an enormous impact on your life in Cheshire, huh?”
          Well someone has to pay the costs for policing it. The money could be better spent elsewhere.

          Now Maxincony, other than Trolling what evidence do you have of Al Beeb “Bias”.
          Right or Left or even centre? That’s why people visit this site
          You are a Troll, an Al Beeb ‘night shift’ Troll at that.
          You should pop over to North Korea and start Trolling there.

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          • Doublethinker says:

            Dear fellow contributors,
            The best to deal with trolling fools like Max is to ignore them and never reply to their provocation. In a little while they will get bored of being ignored and go and someone else to annoy.

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      • lojolondon says:

        No, but it is an accurate reflection of how weak our country is in the face of criminality, that thugs and idiots are allowed to get drunk, sell drugs, commit multiple burglaries, robberies, muggings and acts of violence and vandalism unhindered by law and order for 48 hours in a plush part of London.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Link to last open thread today’s easier posts

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  5. StewGreen says:

    8pm R4 Gordon Brown show

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    • Grant says:

      Stew,

      Gordon Brown, the greatest PM in British history . Show respect .

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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        • Grant says:

          Ian,

          That is very cruel .

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          • Ian Rushlow says:

            Grant
            Nelson had only one eye. The great man or woman overcomes the disadvantage, whereas I don’t expect Gordon Clown to be remembered in 200 years time.

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            • Grant says:

              Ian,

              Wouldn’t surprise me if Brown’s statue replaces Nelson’s though !

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Not sure about that, Ian.

              Tony Blair is, I think, the most despised UK PM in history now. Maggie: you can rest easier in your grave, old girl! John Major may now also be outdoing Maggie in some quarters.

              Gordon Brown will be forever twinned, whether he or anyone likes it or not, with Tony Blair.

              If our world is still turning in 200 years then, I think those two will be forever linked, even in death.

              Long before then we have another twenty-years and four months before the Cabinet papers, if permitted to be released, tell us more of the inside No.10/No.11 story of September to December 2007 and the run up to that period. Then, a year after that we will possibly be allowed to learn what happened in the first half of 2008.

              I do not think Gordon Brown will be viewed in a very good light after all of that but he will be remembered.

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              • Ian Rushlow says:

                “I think those two will be forever linked, even in death.”
                They are certainly linked in causing deaths, one for signing the orders, the other for failing to sign the cheques to purchase the equipment to protect our forces.

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            • lojolondon says:

              He WILL be remembered – but not the way he imagines. Biggest financial reverse for any country, ever. Straight down. The worst thing that can happen to Brown is if history treats him with honesty.

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        • Deborah says:

          I see much of the damage having been done by Labour (both Brown and his predecessor) reflected in the salaries of government workers and their allied trades. It was under Labour that Vice Chancellors’ pay rocketed, but so did that of teachers, nurses etc. Headteachers on over £100,000 a year are common. I know one who moans frequently about the amount of effort she has to put in – for well over £100,000 a year, I expect her to work all hours for that sort of money. Governors at schools still insist on increasing Headteachers’ pay in the year or two before they retire – to boost their pension. No-one questions who has to fund those salaries and pensions but it has to be generated by people working in industry and the like paying tax.

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        • richard D says:

          These PFI initiatives – they wouldn’t be, would they, the same ones that wind up with the assets being expensively leased by public sector organisations for quite a long time, then, at the end of the lease period – during which time, no doubt, some of the money being paid to the lessors will have been used to upgrade and maintain to a good standard the buildings such as schools, hospitals, etc. ?

          Then these assets – still in very good nick, of course (for example, hospitals would have to be, almost by definition) revert to the lessor who, I am sure will be willing to extend the leases, at a price,naturally, given the potentially incredible cost of building, e.g. a new hospital, in a city environment – land purchase, construction costs, infrastructure impact and further costs, etc., etc.

          But, I am sure that there are inexpensive get-out clauses whereby future governments can easily, and at little cost, simply abandon these assets and leave the lessor to pick up the tab……..yeah, right. of course there are.

          Nah – I am sure that Gordon Brown knew exactly what he was doing, didn’t he ?

          No more boom and bust, eh ? Tell that to the PFI fairy !

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          • Grant says:

            richardd,

            Brown messed up everything he did. He was utterly useless.

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            • Ian Rushlow says:

              Grant
              As a wealthy investor who has made a lot of money from PFI and other scams inititatives, I strongly object to your statement that Brown was utterly useless.
              Yours
              Mr S.O’Ros.
              http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2263208.stm

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              • Grant says:

                Ian,

                I love the bit ” the Inland Revenue confirmed its mistake “…. in selling property to a tax haven company. It is the sort of slip-up any of us could make, even so-called tax specialists. You couldn’t
                make it up.

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      • MartinW says:

        However, we have to be forever grateful to Gordon Brown for his determination successfully to thwart the creature Blair’s wish to have the UK ditch the pound and join the Euro. Brown’s list of conditions for joining the Euro was very effective in stopping the vile Blair’s ambitions. GB was a poor PM overall, but compared with The Creature, he was a saint!

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        • lojolondon says:

          Absolutely correct – strangely enough, it wasn’t because he was smart, it wasn’t because he could see the future, it wasn’t because he was perceptive – he came up with these nonsensical ‘rules’ because he wanted to deny Bliar the thing he most wanted. Ironically it was the best single thing he ever did.

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          • MartinW says:

            Yes, his ambition was to thwart Blair at every opportunity, including (astonishingly) denying him any involvement in Treasury matters (!). However, I am agnostic on whether Brown perceived the great dangers posed by joining the Euro, and will gave him the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

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    • richard D says:

      I heard some Beeboid this morning comment that the new bridge would significantly reduce travel time for everyone from crossing the River Forth.

      OK, would some BBC nonce with some knowledge of queuing theory or logistics please tell me how journey times will be significantly reduced by splitting the normal flow of traffic into two streams just north of the River Forth, with a tiny minority of traffic (public transport vehicles only) using the old two-lanes-each-way Forth Road Bridge, and the vast majority of vehicles using the new Queensferry Crossing (still just two-lanes-each-way), and then immediately South of the River Forth, both streams are brought back together to use precisely the same roads that they were using already.

      The same bottlenecks will exist – having shifted perhaps a half a mile or so at best at some point of the rush-hour…. which, at the rate of traffic flow will take just a few minutes or so extra to revert to the same steady-state flow of traffic on the same roads into and around Edinburgh – even when they lift the 40mph limit imposed all over the area whilst the roadworks around the Forth Bridges area were being completed – where nobody gets anywhere near 40mph anyway, given traffic volumes at peak times.

      The explanation should be really interesting ! But no doubt Ms Sturgeon and her knuckle-dragging cohorts will claim it as a complete success, no matter what.

      Strange that we have not heard about her government’s ‘success’ in solving alcohol-related deaths in Scotland via her banning of multi-buy offers on (pretty much just) wine products, and her more recent attempt to introduce a Minimum Unit Pricing on alcohol. In fact, since the introduction of the earlier legislation in 2012, the 9-year downward trend in alcohol-related deaths reversed quite markedly since the introduction of these laws. It could not possibly be, for instance, that people who were, in the main, buying the multi-buy offers, weren’t the ones who would end up killing themselves with alcohol, but simply savvy purchasers when buying their regular tipple. No doubt Ms Sturgeon will argue that this too has somehow been a huge success, and demand to press on, along the same path.

      A classic (especially left-wing) government ideology that somehow punishing everyone for the acts of a few is more effective – actually, it’s only easier, not more effective, since you don’t have to determine and deal with the root causes of the problem you are trying to solve with legislation. It’s then ever so difficult to determine whether a policy has been effective or not…or has just pushed the problem somewhere else.

      A bit like the new Queens Crossing Bridge is likely to turn out to be.

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      • Grant says:

        Richard D,

        Thank God I do not live in Edinburgh any more.

        One of the other alcohol anomalies in Scotland is that you cannot buy alcohol before 10 in the morning. Ridiculous inconvenience for all shoppers. But, I would imagine that the alkies buy at 10 and just drink more quickly thereby adding to the problem. It reminds me of the law that restricts the amount of paracetamol or ibuprofen that you can buy at one outlet. So if you want more you have to go to more than one outlet.

        It seems to me that the one unifying factor among almost all politicians is that they are total morons.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Grant, not unlike the BBC’s one-time hero, Emmanuel Macron, is appearing to become.

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    • maxincony says:

      StewGreen,

      8pm R4 Gordon Brown show…

      OMG, the left-wing bias never ends. Whatever next? A long running series about trains? Chairmanship of the BBC?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Maxi, old son: have you ever done a count of all the BBC staffers and all the programme makers and divided them by direct links to political Parties? I think you may find it illuminating, especially for a national, tax-funded, publicly-owned and supposedly neutral broadcaster such as the BBC. For comparison, do the same with the commercial broadcasters.

        Have a go. See what you find.

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  6. Tabs says:

    Is it my imagination or has the BBC’s coverage of The Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo got much shorter, now being just one hour long?

    I guess it’s a traditional proud British thing so best not to cover it too much!

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    • vesnadog says:

      “Is it my imagination or has the BBC’s coverage of The Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo got much shorter, now being just one hour long?”

      Its them loud guns!

      BBC director probably thinks all those who use guns are howwible wannabe murderers!

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    • NameNotNumber says:

      Turned on, looked like a Bollywood movie. Turned off.

      How did that happen?

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  7. gaxvil says:

    Talking of eyes and blindness – in the land where a number without the special eclipse glasses chose to put sun-block in their eyes.

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  8. gaxvil says:

    I’ve been away, had a think and still struggling with what kind of World the Left envisage for us?
    In California, so called anarchists attack promoters of, free speech, Christianity and Donald Trump. Thousands are set to march to Washington to, ‘demand’, no less that, Trump is ‘removed’ from power. All going swimmingly what?

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    • vesnadog says:

      “I’ve been away, had a think and still struggling with what kind of World the Left envisage for us?”

      If only England had a “John Milton” (1608-1674).

      After his death his love of Liberty and moral attitude was praised by Mr Wordsworth. Milton’s spiritual legacy. The opening lines go like this:

      Milton! Thou shouldest be living at this hour; England hath need of thee: she is a fen, of stagnant waters: alter, sword and pen……….Of inward happiness. We are selfish men…Oh! Raise us up, return to us again.. And give us manners, freedom, virtue, power….(Bickley 1961)

      I like the bit about the “stagnant waters” I’m sure Trumps “swamp” may have been inspired by him.

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  9. Lock13 says:

    BBC I am struggling can one of you meet me in the East End of London and show me what part Eastenders is modelled on ? I lived in Stepney and Tower Hamlets for 10 years and I never managed to see it. I know they got the wailing mosque tower up top of Whitechapel Road but in all honesty I left when I failed to meet a single English person one weekend back in 2008, has it since morphed back into Chas n Dave since I’ve been away?

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    • Fedup says:

      Lock,
      You have a fair point . I live in a London E number and when I go to the local market ( not often ) I get funny looks for being the whitee who doesn’t look polish .

      It’s so vibrant , diverse and multicultural . I was born and grew up in an E number and I don’t talk effing lundun or use effing every effing second effing word – guvna.

      And I have never seen East Enders .

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    • MartinW says:

      Your comment came as a was surprise. Are you saying that the Whitechapel mosque is permitted to broadcast the call for prayer? And is this true of mosques around the country? If so, this is another egregious example of dhimmitude on the part of the government. Don’t they understand that this is all about dominance and supremacy?

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  10. Deborah says:

    10pm news on BBC1 report from Houston. Reporter didn’t know whether Houston could cope with a Trump visit. But I digress, reporter had his hood up but I didn’t see any drips of rain from either his hood or on his hands. Maybe it is still raining but I no longer trust the BBC even with such a simple report.

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    • GCooper says:

      And yet can you image the BBC’s reaction were Pres Trump not to visit Houston?

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Or not visit it quick enough. Or fail to visit a disproportionate number of ethnics. Or be seen talking to White people. Or fail to accept personal responsibilty for causing the storm by pulling America out of the Paris Agreement. They’d find some excuse.

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    • richard D says:

      I remember a few years ago on the Weather Channel in the USA, a young weather-man called Jim Cantore (now a ‘more mature’ desk-jockey on the same channel). He used to appear at almost every major weather event in the US and, initially, I thought, ‘ham it up’ with the conditions.

      Over a few years, I realised that this was not really an act, he really would be blown off-camera by the severity of the winds he was reporting on, flying almost like a flag on some lamp-post, struggling through snow-storms so heavy that he was almost invisible when more than just a couple of feet from the camera lens, and literally soaked through and through in tropical rainstorms.

      Nowadays, the BBC weather people seem just to go through the motions in some special ‘North Face’ (or equally expensive name-badge) outfit – trying to look weather-worn, but probably no more that a few yards from some BBC caravan and their favourite latte.

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    • charmbrights says:

      Yes – I wondered when the reporter said, “It’s still raining,” where the rain was.

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  11. Peter Grimes says:

    My apologies if this has been linked before.

    Another mentally ill Muslim pervert –

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/511231/Train-Sex-Pervert-Camera-Phone-Victim

    Who would credit it?

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  12. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    BBC tonight – documentary on Margaret Atwood (me neither) apparently a visionary who saw the coming horror of Trump. Utter lefty wank. Off switch.

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    • Deborahanother says:

      She is a Canadian feminist who wrote The Handmaids Tale. I read it years ago before it became de rigour for lefties. Its a very good tale and the feminism isn’t blatant.
      I like science fiction. Its about lower class women being used for breeding and nothing else by elites,Elite females having become infertile.
      Its currently being serialised by Amazon not the BBC and is very successful, so Beeb jump on the bandwagon with a documentary.
      And what does the BBC produce to stimulate the grey matter? Strictly,Antiques and cooking programmes,housing programmes dumb quizes all day long.

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      • lojolondon says:

        Total leftard garbage. The Christian fundamentalists take over and are especially brutal with regular ritual-rape, casual, callous murders, strict rules and brutal punishments for the ‘lower class’ (ie. for women). No mention of another cult that already practises this on a daily basis, naturally…..

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    • Helena Hand-Basket says:

      I understand US TV has recently dramatised Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ (1985), set in a near-future US taken over by a fundie Christian totalitarian theocracy in which women are downtrodden breeding stock. Since the BBC are convinced this is Donald Trump’s Cunning Plan for the US, perhaps they are trying to publicise the programme? (I saw a trailer for it on Aussie TV, and decided I’d rather eat my own pancreas.)

      The book was written over thirty years ago. Have we seen any sign of it coming true? Do you regularly get mown down by Amish-style females in quaint bonnets, driving their horse-drawn buggies much too fast? No, neither have I. Most of us realise the only theocracy heading our way is one in which women wear burqas.

      What a shame none of the TV companies are showing us dramas about our real future.

      (Sorry, I wrote this after Deborah’s post appeared, so some information has been duplicated.)

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Great posts both, D.a. and H. H-B.

        Have just remembered recent research, received via the Beeb, that white fertility is actually falling in Europe & USA and assuming blame is attributed on a 50:50 basis then maybe Attwood is not so far out. I used to enjoy listening to her on radio as she had such a lazy, sexy voice and great accent but these days I find the BBC-presented/promoted cousins can grate a bit, especially if they are squeaky-voiced, American female so-called ‘academics’.

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        • Grant says:

          Are there any similar novels about totalitarian muslim theocracies ? I don’t suppose that would count as
          “fiction “.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Grant, you’d have to be pretty brave or have an impregnable bolt-hole somewhere or both, before writing a book like that.

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            • lojolondon says:

              Yes, as the BBBC knows – insult Christians with impunity, but insult Muslims at your peril. And they say behaving like a medievil has no merit…..

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            • Cranmer says:

              I’ve recently been watching repeats of ‘The Onedin Line’ (set in 1860) and one thing that strikes me is how ‘Muslim’ the Onedins are. Eg in one scene, Onedin’s sister announces she is pregnant after a fling with a sailor. Onedin slaps her round the face and tells her she must marry or get out. Then he and his brother find the father, beat him up and force him to marry the girl. Onedin himself has a kind of ‘arranged’ marriage in order to get a ship from his wife’s father.

              It is quite simply impossible to conceive of any native British nominal Christian man doing such a thing nowadays, either on TV or in real life, but in 1971 this was considered acceptable behaviour for a hero in a TV drama. Onedin was not some sort of backward villain we are meant to despise. I’m pretty sure it would be considered normal in the Indian subcontinent and Pakistan today as well. Yet we never hear any objections from ‘progressives’ and feminists about uncontrolled Muslim immigration.

              It’s been said before, but my belief is that many women secretly are attracted to this kind of unapologetic forceful male.

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          • Banania says:

            I took that to be the reason for broadcasting The Handmaid’s Tale – that it was topical.

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  13. taffman says:

    Maxincony , stick to Blue Peter.

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  14. Manxman says:

    Good old Maxifunny is back, how was Antifa camp maxi ?.

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  15. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The BBC have put a lot of time and effort dramatizing and presenting as news the following video story that they are headlining on their main news homepage:

    Headline: ‘I was groomed and sexually abused by 30 or 40 men’
    From the age of 13, “Ben” (not his real name), was groomed and sexually abused by 30 or 40 adult men. It began shortly after he came out as gay on social media. But as his parents were trying to protect him from these predatory older men, Ben says he was dismissed and even blamed by the authorities responsible for protecting him. … Produced, filmed & edited by Elise Wicker and Rob Brown. Click here to listen to Ben’s full story in the File on 4 programme …
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-41042306/i-was-groomed-and-sexually-abused-by-30-or-40-men

    What the BBC are trying to do is to say: hey you may have heard of Muslim rape gangs in Rotherham and elsewhere but look here we have a group of 30 to 40 (white) older men raping a gay boy of thirteen who has come out on social media. Rape gangs occur in all cultures, it has nothing to do with Islam.

    That is the message the BBC Islamists want you to take home from this.

    Meanwhile the BBC are still going batshit crazy on their “India’s rapist guru” story (something they have been headlining for five days now). Guru is a label for Hindu or Sikh holy men. You will never see the BBC creating headlines about “rapist Imams” or “rapist Muslims”.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/asia/india

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It struck me as a rather contrived story to make the point, although it is a despicable tale. But is it also homophobic? Is it implying that groups of homosexual men are a problem as well? And is it trying to draw a link between homosexuality and paedophilia? Dangerous ground, BBC. I appreciate it is a subject close to your hearts (especially so to some present and former employees), but I don’t think the Junior Common Room Committee of Sub-Editors has fully thought this one through.

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    • lojolondon says:

      Exactly – ‘Ben says….’ is not news – because it is a single-source story, with no evidence that we know of. It is just a story, as they make clear in the description…. Fact is this may be true or not, and it may be real or not, but it has been chosen by the BBC to show how bad white men are. Note that they never managed to find or didn’t bother to find one of over 1400 female children in Rotherham and publish their stories – which can be and have been verified.

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  16. Beeb Brother says:

    Lovely ‘news’ story on Toady bulletin, about an actor who refused to play a character because in the original story the part was mixed race but he is white; he did not want to be part of ‘white washing.’

    It’s a bad day at the office for Beeb staffers if they don’t mention race, isn’t it? Is that really the fifth most important thing that has happened? ‘White washing’ – another brilliant invention of the progressive left to needlessly stir things up. Who on earth cares in the slightest?

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    • John says:

      Assuming the Hellboy reboot is to be free of “whitewashing” I wish the producers every success in finding an ethnically correct actor to play the eponymous leading role.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Liberals have no problem casting black actors into historically inaccurate roles, but it’s knicker-wetting time when a fantasy role is played by the ‘wrong’ race. When they remake the Charlie Chan or Shaft movies, or biographies of Michael ‘Martin’ Luther King or Nelson Mandela with a white actor, then perhaps we’ll take notice.

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      • Franglais says:

        Yes,

        Does anybody remember the recent programme about William the Conqueror and his right hand man?

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  17. Synchronised says:

    R4 paper review. Guardian reporting the Met have an increase in requesting help with mental health issues. Had no idea that paper cared so much about its readership.

       26 likes

  18. Synchronised says:

    Forgot to mention tweet of the day managed to slip in “climate change”.

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  19. Oaknash says:

    Nice little “milk of human kindness ” story today from the BBC.

    It concerned the re-integration of former sex slave women back into the Yazdi community – Ahhhh you think and I thought so too. Yes it was a good and poignant story to hear as these poor women had been to hell and back . But I am constantly amazed at the brass neck this organisation demonstrates.

    Here they are celebrating the freedom of these women and yet only a few months back they were encouraging the bombing of the only force keeping the country together (Assad) and critisising every move the russians made whilst the West still supported a whole number of questionable “rebels.”

    I wonder whether these Yazdi women would have been quite so welcoming to the BBC reporter had they known the full scale of BBCs indirect support for ISIS.

    This ogranisation reminds me very much of school where the bullies were always accompanied by a number of weedy kids who on their own were nothing but were quick to change allegience as soon as their former leader gets dethroned by a rival.

    This organisation lacks any sort of morality other than the morality of maggot. It crawls over everything tainting that which is good and despoiling even further that which is already in decay.

    Sometimes the sheer hypocrisy of this bastard organisation leaves me speechless and this mornings touching little story was one of those times.

    Utter W####RS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  20. Oaknash says:

    Nice little “milk of human kindness ” story today from the BBC.

    It concerned the re-integration of former sex slave women back into the Yazdi community – Ahhhh you think and I thought so too. Yes it was a good and poignant story to hear as these poor women had been to hell and back . But I am constantly amazed at the brass neck this organisation demonstrates.

    Here they are celebrating the freedom of these women and yet only a few months back they were encouraging the bombing of the only force keeping the region together against ISIS (Assad) and critisising every move the russians made whilst the West still supported a whole number of questionable “rebels.”

    I wonder whether these Yazdi women would have been quite so welcoming to the BBC reporter had they known the full scale of BBCs indirect support for ISIS.

    This ogranisation reminds me very much of school where the bullies were always accompanied by a number of weedy kids who on their own were nothing but were quick to change allegience as soon as their former leader gets dethroned by a rival.

    This organisation lacks any sort of morality other than the morality of maggot. It crawls over everything tainting that which is good and despoiling even further that which is already in decay.

    Sometimes the sheer hypocrisy of this bastard organisation leaves me speechless and this mornings touching little story was one of those times.

    Utter W####RS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Grant says:

      Oak,

      Beeboids are moral perverts.

         15 likes

    • Oaknash says:

      Sorry folks tried to correct the word “country” to “region” (as Yazdis were from Iraq) – unfortunately post went in twice and it would only correct second post – was in a hurry for work and I was vewy cwoss!!!

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  21. AsISeeIt says:

    Strickly Z list

    We’ve become sadly accustomed to BBC news bulletines using their headlines to puff BBC shows, so it’s no surprise we have to hear about Liso Muzimba – although the headline that he is ‘mingling with the stars’ is putting it a bit strong – Debbie McGee and that camp vicar off Radio 4…

    I did admire the line from some bloke in spandex and sequins when prompted about him being ‘the first contestant with a physical disability’ (I’ve no idea what was supposed to be wrong with him) he replied “It shows the way the show is going”

    It shows the way the BBC is going, mate – rapidly disappearing up its own PC box-ticking fundement

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  22. Up2snuff says:

    Switched on to BBC R4 TODAY Programme @ 6.12am approx. Had a strange feeling from the outset that I was being virtue signalled, preached and advertised to and propagandised.

    The BBC are really making it very easy to switch off or seek alternatives to their service.

       27 likes

    • Fedup says:

      Up,
      Being in need of agitation I had a little listen to today and my favourite smug ‘ Justin’ was on. Doing an easy damning of President Trump for visiting a part of his own country because of the flooding – if he wasn’t going then he’d allege he didn’t care. No win there.

      Then there is climate change. It is clear al Beeb policy that every one must ascent to the scientific theory that the climate is changing for the worse because of us so therefore we must be taxed more and more personal power removed from us.

      I do not believe the case is made for the theory that we are changing the climate. But my issue is the manner al Beeb approaches it. They sound like the inquisition asking the same question until they get the answer they want. It is a fanatical believe they have. Fortunately it doesn’t really matter because in reality if the theory is true then the human race will be regulated by the planet because population and industrialisation continues to grow and is seen as a good thing. I’m a Gaia follower. We and albeeb will be long gone when this happens.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fedup, too right. It IS a new religion. Some scientists and mentalist-enviros think they are god. The BBC thinks it is god. So, naturally, they believe they can control the climate on this globe. They require us to worship them and their power and ourselves, too.

        The ancients and the patriarchs were much, much smarter.

        The rainbow means only one thing to the BBC. It DOES have another, very different meaning: Climate Change. A permanent one. There are others available.

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        • Cranmer says:

          Up2snuff, I have a theory that there are innate beliefs in human nature. These change according to culture and religion and nationality and era, but overall there are marked similarities. One such is the doomsday scenario. For much of our recorded history in Britain this was the Second Coming. Now that Christianity is largely gone from western thought, doomsday has been replaced by environmental catastrophe. Some on the right who do not subscribe to that believe in an Islamic takeover as the equivalent. What annoys me is that supposedly intelligent people refuse to debate this and just shout down any opposition with nonsense like ‘the science is settled’ which is about as rational as saying ‘it’s true because it says so in the Bible.’

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          • MarkyMark says:

            Cranmer – interesting theory, we have a deep seated desire for something that needs to be filled at any cost – even if it means the destruction of reason …

            Diversity will solve all the problems or at least distract us and make us feel good.

            Listening and changing our culture based on what minorities want will make our culture greater.

            Being tolerant to intolerant cultures or religions will make us more tolerant?

            If only we all agreed on Climate Change we could solve it rather than argue about it?

            Now that everyone has signed the Paris Agreement, it means we are all working together …. including China, but what is this ….

            Beijing (China) has proven itself rather shrewd (Dishonest? Liars? Frauds?). At home it has been steadily reducing its reliance on coal (meeting it’s international obligations!), replacing it with renewable energy. Yet all the while — it has been happy to invest in dirty energy abroad (so China does not care about the environment?), with profits returning to boost the domestic sector {dailytimes aug2017}

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Marky “If only we all agreed on Climate Change we could solve it rather than argue about it?”

              Am assuming a slight carelessness with language here. (We all do it from time to time.) The obvious flaw: how do you solve CC and why should you? It has been keeping us alive for millennia.

              Do we not need to do what the Patriarchs knew what to do: adapt to Climate Change, not believe you can control it?

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            • Manxman says:

              The Chinese billions are what started the whole environmental social justice warrior scam, China have profited every which way.

              But it was the Nuclear industries war on coal, that started the snowball, Thatcher jumped on-board, with her ”special” adviser from America, a young Jim Hansen, of global cooling fame, by that time he had flip flopped to global warming and Maurice Strong was big advocate of his work, that’s when Thatcher set up the East Anglia super puter and global warming became a phrase you started becoming aware off, changed to climate change around 2005.

              The Chinese jumped aboard the funding wagon, the NGO’s set up head quarters in China and the money started to flow thru the NGO’s charitable orgs etc, EU funding pressure groups the same way, the gravy train growing glutenous as Marxist gravy trains do, all under-pinned by the theory of an ice cold gas bath trapping heat in the element at the bottom being heated through the gas by sunlight.

              The heat isn’t trapped, in the lower atmosphere it is created under the ideal gas law, and is a product of force, gravity

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              • Up2snuff says:

                Manxman, “The Chinese billions are what started the whole environmental social justice warrior scam, China have profited every which way.”

                How do you work that one out?

                I was an early capture (as a petrolhead!) for environmentalism way back just before the end of the 1960s. China was bust out of sight and still would be for a quarter of a century or more to come.

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                • Manxman says:

                  I know it, because i gave pub life up the day after my 40th birthday,.
                  I bought a putor, and i went on dial up, so i read alot, and disconnected while i did so.

                  Bank scams was always my favourite, and i set about digging thru timelines at historycommons, on the BCCI scandal, that was a CIA black-op’s, to follow terrorist funding, and to wash C.I.A drugs money.
                  I distracted into AQ Khan and his network and Nuclear proliferation, it had everything a rabbit hole could possibly offer, and i had all the networks still in my head all way up to the C.I.A. pulling the plug on Enron.

                  After around 3yrs i had been at that, the fraud of the climate change gravy train and networking became the focal point of my attention, and i have been pretty OCD on it for 12 yrs now, if you understand it is the fraud, the networks, the following the money, and the empowered, i guess i get hooked on despising them, or even admiring some bad men, like AQ Khan and his ability to survive being the baddest man in the biggest game in town.

                  I dont keep stuff up2, i remember stuff, because i dont talk about what i read, the last 4 or 5 years my interest has been the corrupt science.

                  http://www.chinacsrmap.org/Org_Show_EN.asp?ID=321

                  https://eelegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Big-Donors-Big-Conflicts-Final1.pdf

                  The world view i have formed is the Chinese wanted to be world leaders in Nuclear plant building, not renewables.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Cranmer, interesting post.

            I approach it slightly from a different angle but I think you are right. One of those ‘beliefs’ in man is a belief he can become God and also has an innate desire to be God but when things get tough he then ends up making his own (little) ‘gods’ and prays to them instead of to a God who can answer.

            That is, unless he (man) has the right perspective on things, as did some of the ancients and all of the Patriarchs. It would appear that through human history man has known how fragile he is when compared to the forces of nature.

            Not just the Second Coming as a doomsday scenario. What about knowledge of and faith in the promise to Noah: “No more water, it’s fire next time!” ?

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            • Cranmer says:

              Up2snuff, you are of course right. Millenniarianism long precedes Christianity. In the east, of course, it is different, where existence is viewed as a circle, rather than a straight line with a destination. Possibly why the Chinese and Indians don’t concern themselves too much with global warming.

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              • Up2snuff says:

                Cranmer, “Millenniarianism”? No, just every day existence. The guys back then hardly knew how to count but they knew famine – as pastoral communities – and might even be able to see it coming and adjust accordingly.

                Reliable prophets were in short supply even in the prophetic period (when prophets were two a penny but most of them were not even worth a much smaller fraction of one) which didn’t really get underway until recently. By recently, I mean about three thousand or so years ago.

                Were there are millennianists pre-Noah? I would have thought that that was more of a modern concept from Messianic prophecy, King David’s time onward.

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    • Old Goat says:

      The safest approach, is not to switch it on at all, ever. Works for me!

         11 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        O.G., how’s things in France? Hope you are having a good summer.

        Funny thing, but just before my last post I realised that it was about 9.03 and TODAY had ended. I muted it during an item advertising a BBC TV programme just after 8.30am and had forgotten to ‘switch back on’.

        Oh well, there’s always radio iPlayer.

        If I can be bothered but probably not. Sunny day here, things to do, people to see. Cheers!

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        • Old Goat says:

          Weatherwise, it’s been good. Hot spring, average start to summer, but really hot again recently. Just remarried, and lost a very good friend to cancer, the day after. A sort of roller-coaster summer…

             4 likes

          • Up2snuff says:

            O.G., congratulations and the very best wishes to you and the new Mrs OG and condolences to you both on the loss death of your friend.

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  23. JimS says:

    What’s the first sign of dementia?

    Could it be Moira Stuart reading out the same news headline, (about a test for dementia!), twice on Radio 2’s 8 a.m. news?

       17 likes

    • Fedup says:

      Jim ,
      It might also be hitting the repeat button here – repeat button here ….. oops … for the record I have cared for some one close with dementia so feel just to have a small joke about it. But dementia ain’t much fun eh?

      I don’t do those emoti things normally but?

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  24. Up2snuff says:

    At no point in the BBC R4 coverage of Hurricane Harvey have I heard a BBC reporter explain that there are two Colorado Rivers in the southern half of the USA. The one in the west is the one most people will be familiar with; out west they sometimes refer to it as the GREAT Colorado River. (Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?) The BBC, on R4 at least, appear happy to not educate or inform about the other Colorado River.

    The BBC appear to be content to create or maintain ambiguity and confusion.

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    • G says:

      U2s,
      Heard on BBC that the Colorado River (didn’t distinguish) was, “….higher than it has been for over a 100 years….”. That’s Global Warming for you. (Say, you really mean 100 years? Well, that really makes a mockery of Gl War. doesn’t it)

         3 likes

  25. Guest Who says:

    At least the comedy is still promising:

       6 likes

    • Manxman says:

      Yeah more snowflakes just what we need,.. have i got shoes for you.

         10 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Show picture of Jacob Rees-Mogg (Eton) laughing his head off with Ian Hislop (Ardingly College) whilst the article talks about gender balance. What are we to determine from this article’s image and text?

      Guardian Article Text:
      Jacob x 0
      Hislop x 0
      Eton x 0
      Have I Got News for You x 0

      My summary is it would have been better with an image of a women’s chat show like ‘Loose Women’ (note the article does not mention any items from the image, but lets you form a mental association), to show what the article wants the future to be.

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  26. Beeb Brother says:

    RE: Whitewashing.

    “The Deadpool star said he did not know the race of the character when he accepted the part.”

    Most people just do not see race as such a big issue; there are too many professional victims stirring things up. What if he did a brilliant audition and would have made a fantastic film? What if another actor of ‘appropriate heritage’ did not audition as well and would thus make a worse film? What happened to judging someone by the content of their character and not the colour of their skin?

    The writers of Luther originally envisaged the lead being white, but Idris Elba is such a brilliant actor so what not cast him instead? Who cares when he did such a good job? When they cast the Office they originally had someone very different from Mackenzie Crook in mind for the role of Gareth, but he auditioned so well that they changed their minds. He was brilliant and you could not imagine anyone else playing that part so perfectly. He was meant to be fat in the original script. Is this this ‘fat washing’?

    If the race of the character were integral to the plot of the film the casting directors would never have considered casting someone from another race. I wish these SJWs would focus their energies on real problems rather than pathetic moral busybodying like this, poking their noses in where it is not wanted or needed. Why not focus on gang culture, FGM or literacy levels among certain communities? Obviously that would involve too much hard work so they waste their energies on pathetic nonsense like this,

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  27. Foscari says:

    Fellow contributors ,maybe we are getting the BBC all wrong! Perhaps we should treat the TV, Radio and Websites
    of the BBC as if we were watching Monte Python sketches , and just have a good laugh! How we laughed at the
    “dead parrot” ” travel agents” and “100 meters for people with weak bladders” sketches.
    Just look everyday on the BBC website and you will have just as much as a laugh. ” I was a neo nazi who fell in
    love with a black women.” ” Hellboy” whitewashing , Ed Skrein quits. Read this hilarious load of Monty Python
    on the website today.
    The BBC isn’t even worth mocking , just laugh at them. We have to pay a license fee to this crazed, politically
    correct,positive discrimination gone mad . Diversity , GLBT obsessed , fifth columnist, mad house. When the Black
    knight had lost all his limbs in battle and blurts out “lets call it a draw” we laughed our heads off. ” I was a neo nazi
    who fell in love with a black women” LAUGH , LAUGH, LAUGH.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      I agree – so much of what I read on their website would not seem out of place on a satirical website like The Onion. My personal favourite was their faux outrage over Kelvin Mackenzie likening Ross Barkley to a gorilla; having researched his family tree and discovered his grandfather was mixed race, this was deemed to be racist. It’s a bit much when you have to research someone’s genealogy to discover you can be offended on their behalf. Note how the ‘victims’ of the offences never actually seem to care – the Beeb nobly take offence vicariously.

      So now when addressing anyone you must first research their entire family tree in case you are inadvertently offending them. Tell someone to liven up and this could be deeply offensive if it turned out their cousin had once suffered from depression.

         29 likes

    • Grant says:

      Foscari,

      LOL ! Beeboids are so self-unaware that they do realise that they are one big, long , self-parody.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Foscari,
      I tend to agree with you, the best way to deal with not just the BBC but the whole liberal left apparatus for the suppression of democracy , is to laugh at it. But to get to this point you have to go through the phases of initial anger, then despair to arrive at amusment. But my amusement is tinged with a type of schadenfreude . I am certain that the liberal left are taking down the road to hell with their one world policy , but of course there is little any individual can do to stop this other than use ones vote but who is there to vote for who is against the liberal left? So I shake my head with a wry grin when the BBC et al force us further down the road to hell, safe in the knowledge that they can’t take away the good years that I remember and that hopefully before we reach the dreadful fate that awaits I won’t be here to see it. One regret is that I won’t be able to see how the fools react , who they blame , what excuses do they invent.

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think. I veer between anger and laughter at the Beeb. When you see what they have done to this once great nation it is so hard not to feel angry.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Foscari, you are right. I saw that side-bar item while on a BBC HYS. Then I looked the next and the one that followed that and I laughed my head off. It was so notable that I took a screen grab, then another one as I read down a bit more, then even more.

      Then I reached the one with the pic of a cup of tea, captioned: ‘Why I have the social skills of a used tea bag’. I thought ‘How appropriate!’.

      That’s the BBC for you: equivalent of a used tea bag.

      Actually, less use than a used tea bag. If you are Eric & Ernie you can get great humour out of a used tea bag. If your personal circumstances are really bad, then you might just squeeze out one more cuppa from two or three used bags.

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  28. MartinW says:

    To no-one’s surpise, Justin Webb used the Texas disaster to promote his favourite topic – climate change. It does not matter to him that there has been no change in the frequency and intensity of hurricanes over a hundred years, and that storminess and rainfall have also shown no upward trend (indeed, is it not correct that the IPCC itself acknowledges this fact?).
    The interview Justin Webb had with the Texas judge was unintentionally revealing. The judge was induced into implying that there was little point Trump visiting the area, but he also said that the operational and organisational work was primarily the responsibility of the state and local officials. Quite so. But the BBC ignored that fact during Katrina. At that time, the inaction or hopelessly inadequate action of Governor Blanco and the Mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin were plain to see, but they were both given a free pass by the BBC, who took the opportunity to unfairly place all the blame on their bête noir, George Bush, for the chaos in New Orleans. It was shocking bias by the BBC at the time, and its intolerable that the BBC continues to follow that narrative.

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    • Fedup says:

      Martin,
      I’ve said the same as you a little earlier- although I severely limit my exposure to albeeb to a minimum I do now enjoy Mr Webbs frothing bias when alleged man induced climate change can be fitted into anything anywhere.
      He is now a figure of fun to me and if he were to get together with the Washington correspondent – sopel who froths at the mouth whenever Trump is mentioned.

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      • Nibor says:

        When I lived in Houston TX and Hurricane Alicia blasted through , there was barely a mention on Al Beeb according the folks back here . But then that was before climate change .

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        • Cranmer says:

          I had a quick look on BBC news website about Harvey as I have a friend in Texas. The BBC’s first headline was a human interest ‘story’ entitled ‘Harvey: too poor to flee the hurricane’. FFS!

             10 likes

      • Grant says:

        Fedup,

        Dame Jon Sopel has never forgiven Trump for calling him “another beauty “. Hell hath no fury…….

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  29. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Problems at C4……………..Kylie Morris report from Houston was approx 8 mins long and took 7 mins before negative Trump mention.

       18 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      What counts is “the take” the bit at the end that implants the message you take away with you.

         9 likes

    • G says:

      BBC as well trying to emphasise the connection between the hurricane, Trump and the fact that he’s pulled out of the Climate Change debate. The BBC’s tactics are absolutely transparent – haven’t they guessed that yet or are they simply hanging on to the illusion that all viewers/listeners believe wholeheartedly in the bile they spout?

         15 likes

      • Nibor says:

        That’s the short term thinking of the liberal/left BBC for you . Pull out of a luvvies conference and get a hurricane two months later . God couldn’t do better .

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  30. G.W.F. says:

    How do we know that Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Cair, and the Muslim Brotherhood are not helping the flood victims in Texas?
    The BBC would have interviewed them if they had

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  31. Charlie Martel says:

    Still on the beebistan Home page, cos it’s major news, right?: “42 things Donald did on his summer holiday” by the slimy Jon Sopel.

    And surprise surprise, EVERY ONE of them negative. FAIR AND BALANCED???

    I wonder what Jony-boy did on his summer holiday, apart from writing endless sneering ‘articles’ about Donald, at our expense.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

       19 likes

    • MartinW says:

      The measure of it is just to imagine the BBC’s correspondent doing that to Obama (or Clinton). But unimaginable, of course.

         6 likes

  32. MarkyMark says:

    BBC @11:47 29Aug17. You decide on what would be better prioritised?

    SPORT + ENTERTAINMENT (About reverse-diversity) + ENTERTAINMENT (American Singer)

    Top Story Left: England hunt final-day win over West Indies
    Top Story Centre: British actor quits film after whitewashing criticism
    Top Story Right: Taylor Swift (American singer-songwriter) breaks three streaming records

    Sub News Stories:
    North Korea (totalitarian country) fires missile over Japan (in direction of USA, a democratic country)
    Flooded Houston braces for yet more rain
    Women losing uteruses after NHS implant

    North Korea fires missile over Japan in ‘unprecedented threat’ {bbc.co.uk aug2017}

    China warned that tensions on the Korean peninsula had reached a “tipping point” but said the US and South Korea were partly to blame. Foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying criticised the two countries for their repeated military drills putting pressure on the North.

    Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the country was “extremely worried” about the “tendency towards an escalation” but also suggested the US-South Korean military exercises “played a role in provoking Pyongyang”.

    – both Russia and China can resolve and stop this madness as they have complete control over North Korea
    Where does North Korea export Coal Briquettes to? (2015) China 98% {atlas.media.mit.edu}
    Where does North Korea import Computers from? (2015) – China 92%
    North Korea invites Russian tourists promising a holiday that is ‘safer than London’ {telegraph aug2017}

    – But it’s the USAs fault for protecting Japan and South Korea, and wanting to stop Kim Jong-un who has said he wants to destroy the USA with supporting video footage showing the USA being attacked by nuclear weapons. {youtube}

    – Thank you BBC for guiding me in what is important in the World today. My £145 spent wisely on creating a well informed public (when it comes to diversity and entertainment).

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  33. StewGreen says:

    BBC news is not a truth textbook
    ..it’s just entertainment & an advertising FREE platform to get promote the PR stuff of BBC staff nates like Green NGOs etc.

    The last episode of Over to You brought that up
    A listener complained that the BBC had run withe story that 64 kids had died in an Indian hospital due to Oxygen company not being paid. But had never come back to the story when deaths rose above 100 , just buried an update in the webpage of Indian local news.
    The interesting bit was that they played a tape if a BBC response which sounded like a robot.
    ‘ The story was dropped due to the ongoing coverage of the Charlottesville march which is a bigger story of world importance cos it could lead to the downfall of the US president. ‘

    BTW If you’ve lived in India or Africa you’ll know there is a 100 death story every day that the BBC never cover..whole wars go unmentioned.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cstzhs

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  34. G says:

    Here we go again! A Bank Holiday resulting in demonstrating conclusively the benefits of multiculturalism the BBC continually pushes as being beneficial. I feel enriched by the presence nearby of chain smoking Lithuanian benefit fraudsters whose children, when left unsupervised throw eggs at my property. So culturally enriching? Pity the BBC’s employees don’t experience the downsides of their protegees.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    BBC R4 Disproportionately privileging SpecialVictims again.
    9am the was a show about the Manchester gay village area.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092f83g

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  36. Doublethinker says:

    Perhaps I have missed comments about the 5 year old white Christian girl forced into a Muslim foster home in Tower Hamlets. Certainly I can’t find any mention of it on the BBC web site. Imagine if the religion of the two parties involved had been reversed, the outcry from the BBC, Guardian et al would have been volcanic and the council officials would have been forced to resign by the twitter storm. The little girl is being badly let down by the council , the BBC , The Guardian and all the liberals who are looking the other way and sitting on their hands. Let us hope that she is rescued soon.
    Making sarcastic comments is in bad taste and I really ought not to do it, but I wonder if this is an experiment by the Muslim community to see how easily Christian children can be converted to Islam. It will provide useful data in years to come when this type of conversion will become increasingly common. No doubt the next set of conversion experiments will be done on older children. Not content with outbreeding Christians by more than two to one the Muslims now want to convert Christian children.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      And how did the non English speaking moslem adopters get through all the interviews and assessment tests to obtain a child?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC Search “Tower Hamlets” reveals everything is OK …
      Tower Hamlets residents join police for knife searches – 02Aug2017
      Newspaper headlines: Brexit clashes and ibuprofen ‘health alert’ – 29Aug2017
      Queen visits Mayflower School in Tower Hamlets – jun2017
      Queen visits Mayflower school in Tower Hamlets – jun2017
      Newspaper headlines: Brexit backlash and ‘wonder drug’ – 28aug2017
      Deputy accuses Tower Hamlets mayor of Islamophobia – 03Jun2017
      New Tower Hamlets electoral fraud probe launched – 26Apr2017
      Vanessa Feltz: Tower Hamlets and rent discrimination
      Joiners Arms development ‘must include LGBT venue’
      Powers returned to Tower Hamlets ahead of schedule
      Tower Hamlets hit-and-run victim, 11, seriously hurt
      Girl, 5, fined £150 for lemonade stand
      Tower Hamlets School defends hiring racist killer
      Primary school’s edible playground a hit with pupils
      Acid attack suspected as men targeted in Bethnal Green

      … I clicked on the ‘Newspaper headlines: Brexit clashes and ibuprofen ‘health alert’ {bbc aug2017} link and the news regarding ‘Christian girl forced into a Muslim foster home ‘ is there!
      Found grouped with the papers ….

      “The Times follows up its lead from Monday – criticising an east London council for placing a five-year-old white Christian girl in the foster care of a devout Muslim family who don’t speak English and couldn’t meet her needs.
      In an editorial, it says Tower Hamlets council has struggled to recruit white families as foster carers, but points out the girl could have been found a home outside the area.
      The same story also makes the front page of the Daily Mail. It says MPs have called on the government to examine what happened.
      Tower Hamlets tells the paper it can’t comment on individual cases but it gives absolute consideration to a child’s cultural identity.

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    • StewGreen says:

      BBC policy : Libland Libland uber allies !
      ….. #LibSupremacist s

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  37. StewGreen says:

    R4 11pm Comedy play recorded by 88 year old Stanley Baxter.

    ..probably much better than the usual dross.

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  38. Rich says:

    Martin W,
    Similarly I’m sure that that many will have noticed the lack of any real leadership shown or responsibility taken at a local level by Mayor Khan with regards to Grenfell. All he did was criticise government and demand action, blatantly passing the buck. Wtf was his office doing? Did he, as Mayor of London, not have the responsibility and the resources to manage this disaster.
    Maybe I’ve missed his contribution, but the Bbc seemed only interested in allowing him to attempt to apportion blame not to resolve issues, and did not appear to question his agitating role or pathetic response.
    As for Emma Code Reds crocodile tears. Where was she when the authorities were dealing with the initial aftermath? Why haven’t the Bbc queried her role or questioned her links to Grenfell? Surely as the local MP she should have been at the lead when trying to sort out the mess?
    So many inadequates totally out of their depth in both politics and journalism and all it seems cut from the same threadbare cloth.

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    • Grant says:

      Rich,

      Seems like all the people involved throughout were Labour. Khan , of course, is a pathetic creature.

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  39. Grant says:

    I was listening to TMS in the car when suddenly R4 cut to some boring BBC “drama “. The BBC just does not do science or technology. They are so unprofessional. I almost missed a wicket !

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  40. StewGreen says:

    Mad Professor resigns from Oxford post
    He’s worked at Blavatnik School if Government for couple of years
    He must have known Blavatnik is a well known Putin supporter, and Britain’s richest man.
    But now there is a hint that Blav donated to Trump he’s had his resigning tantrum.
    Blav says no I didn’t donate to trump my corp just made a donation to the inaurguration.

    “Swedish Professor Bo Rothstein, who taught at the Blavatnik School of Government at the University of Oxford, resigned from his position over claims that the School’s founder, Soviet-born industrialist Leonard Blavatnik, sponsored Trump’s presidential bid.”

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    • Grant says:

      Stew,

      Bo Rothstein is a “Political Scientist “. Contradiction in terms. Funny that he did not resign in protest against anti-semitism in British universities. Prat.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Blav previously donated to Jo Biden , Obama’s deputy, amongst a raft of politicians
      Oxford Uni says : it’s not our biz to tell him who to donate to and he doesn’t tell us how to run the school.
      Neither is the prof involved in the planning of the school.
      Russia Today :
      “Neither Mr. Blavatnik nor his company, Access Industries, have ever donated to President Trump or his campaign.

      “Access Industries made a donation to the Presidential Inaugural Committee, a joint Congressional committee that has been responsible for organizing the inauguration ceremonies of every US president since 1901 ”
      https://www.rt.com/document/59a5340ddda4c8aa748b4567/amp/401267-oxford-resigns-trump-protest

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  41. Pounce says:

    So reading the news at lunch and I came across this headine at the bBC:
    I was a neo-Nazi. Then I fell in love with a black woman

    I thought to myself all they need now, is add a homosexual angle into it in which to get it to fit the bbC agenda, and when I clicked the link guess what. Its a love story about 2 women.

    The bBC, shoving cocks and fannies in yer face and telling you to lap it up.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Not to generalise but I can imagine a headline
      :”I was a nice wooly liberal, but then I married someone from a SpecialVictims group … and so now I’m a raving Nazi”

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      • MarkyMark says:

        BBC Features Titles [email protected]:32

        I (women) was a neo-Nazi. Then I fell in love with a black woman
        – Life After Hate had its government funding cut back by the Trump administration in June, but King says personal donations from around the world have helped make up the shortfall.

        ‘I was groomed and sexually abused by 30 or 40 men’
        – where was this? who were the vile men? I could not find any information on where it was set and who did this – priests?

        Why I became a jihadist poetry critic
        Osama bin Laden shared an unlikely interest with many other jihadists – writing verse.

        Nigeria’s digital blood bank

        Frankfurt is winning the battle for Brexit spoils
        But how many and how quickly, that remains elusive.

        What I wish I hadn’t said to my colleague

        The lifts that can go sideways

        Star stricken – singers who carry on when they’re sick

        Unearthing the legacy of Harvard’s female ‘computers’
        – “I think more women need to know (of the rich history of women astronomers), you’re not alone, you can do it.”

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        • StewGreen says:

          @Marky Caliphate brought up the Gay Grooming boy victim up the page
          The item is from a 2 month old Radio4 prog
          I can’t remember if it was “Asian” connected but it was in WestYorksPolice area
          and referenced a call to the Bradford Childrens services.
          “Supt Firth outlines case of on line grooming, one boy ; 30 abusers 14 now convicted more to follow #Bradford”
          Probably a 2012 trial , cos there were convictions then
          The prog quoted the boys family as suing westYorkshire police

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    • Nibor says:

      Hold on wasn’t she young when a neo Nazi . But now grown up a bit , got OLD ? I thought the BBC thought young people were nicer and wiser than old people , that old people were self centred racists !?

      Reading the article , it seems the meme is that experience counts , that we see other sides to the same coin after we add a few years .

      Now I should be confused , but age and experience has taught me one thing ; don’t trust the BBC .

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  42. Rich says:

    Grant,

    I had edited the original post but the girls aren’t back to school yet and I had to resolve a domestic that took longer than the 15.

    Of course Labour hands are all over it, all the power without any responsibility. Photo-politics.

    The real target of the Bbc is May and in the US it’s Trump, they want cosy socialism and big government, they need it because they are cowards and want it because they are stupid.
    Why would a national government step in over the heads of a locally elected and delegated council or Mayor? Why keep a dog and bark yourself?

    Never mind America and the unhealthy obsession with Trump, there are questions here that need to be answered or at the very least asked, and it seems that the Bbc are neither willing to nor, as appears to be more and more the case, capable of asking.

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  43. Pounce says:

    Regards the bBCs scarmongering coverage of Hurricane Harvey , I found the this Guardian article much more informative:
    What makes Houston so vulnerable to serious floods?
    Flooding is nothing new to Houston residents. Over the past five decades no other urban area in the country has experienced as many casualties and property loss from flooding. Former Hurricane Harvey has made its way across Texas and Louisiana, killing at least nine people In 2015, eight people died in what local media described as “historic flooding”. In 2016, what became known as the “tax day floods” saw three waterways in the city exceed their “500-year flood levels”. Six people died.

    The city’s impermeable roads and sidewalks are built on the coastal prairie and wetlands of the western Gulf, and its topography is flat, with no run-off area for excess water.

    The size of tropical storm Harvey – some experts estimate it has already dumped 12tn gallons of rain in Houston and south Texas – is unusual. But there is no single reason for the extent of the impact it has had at street level. “It’s a combination of factors,” said Sam Brody, a professor in the department of marine sciences at Texas A&M University. “It’s a very low-lying coastal plain, with clay-based soils that do not drain very well. The city is subject to very heavy rainfall, as well as flooding from tidal events. “You take that flood-risk landscape and you put 6 million people on top, with prolific amount of pavement and roadways and a lack of collective and regional thinking about what that does to the natural drainage of that landscape, and you end up with disasters.”The city has added hundreds of square miles of pavement and vastly increased its housing stock, but the flooding infrastructure has, in some areas, not kept pace.

    “Many neighbourhoods are still using roadside ditches as drainage. It’s like the Middle Ages almost,” Brody said. When the city experiences heavy rain – which happens a lot due to its humid subtropical climate – the water has nowhere to go. In new developments where modern drainage systems are installed, Brody said they are often “treating the symptoms, not addressing the underlying problem”. Those developments themselves might have systems in place to prevent them flooding. But those systems can involve channelling additional water into streams or bayous already at capacity. In severe storms that water can gush downstream and threaten older neighbourhoods that traditionally may have been less prone to flooding.

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    • Grant says:

      Pounce,

      Sounds a bit like Gambia, where I live. But they have an excuse. It is a very poor country. Heavy rain last week washed many buildings and houses away. Every rainy season , people drown, mainly kids. It is normal in many parts of the world.

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  44. Pounce says:

    The Government reveals a plan for all UK’s biggest firms will have to reveal how much more their chief executives are paid compared with the average worker and the bBC headline reads:
    Theresa May accused of backtracking on boardroom excess

    The terrorist supporters and child buggerers at the bBC did initially report the above, but then changed it to the above.

    The bbC, the propaganda arm for leftwing intolerance ,paedophiles and Islamic terrorism.

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    • Grant says:

      Pounce,

      Why should the BBC not have to “reveal ” the same information ? Surely the public sector should have to obey the same rules. After all, we are paying for the lazy bastards.

         7 likes

  45. MarkyMark says:

    Want a beach party? Head to Rimini (Italy)! {simonseeks.com}
    “If further celebrity endorsement were needed, George Clooney regularly hits town to hang with the local Ducati/Harley biking fraternity, while Jay Kay of Jamiroquai moors his yacht in the sparkling new marina just outside the centre.”

    Italian police are looking for four perpetrators of a brutal attack on two Polish tourists on the beach in Rimini, where a 26-year-old woman was raped and her husband beaten. The Italian press on Sunday is calling the attack on the Poles “bestial” and “inhuman”. … Even in the face of the horror of a group rape against a girl, the politically correctness softens the blow. Rape is an infamous crime, regardless of who commits it. But the point is: why not say who, or rather who is being sought as the alleged persons responsible, as is happening in the case of the girl raped on the beach of Rimini? Readers of most of yesterday’s daily newspapers and news broadcasts, which have also reserved a lot of room for the matter, do not know or have the slightest idea, reading between the lines, that the police are hunting for three Maghreb (North African) immigrants. {gatesofvienna.net aug2017}

    BBC Search ‘Rimini’ Results:
    Body found in suitcase in Italian port of Rimini
    Rimini medieval work saved for nation
    Mother ‘threw anorexic daughter’s body into the sea’
    Italy acid attack model Gessica Notaro braves TV show
    (no news of Rimini attacks on Polish tourists)

    – BBC misses chance to report on brutal Rapes in Rimini, a place where entertainment stars like George Clooney frequent?

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  46. Wild Bill says:

    Just been on the Guardian site and Owen Jones is slagging off Boris Johnson, so are most of the loonies in comments, one comment said, “The man is an absolute shitehawk. I despise him.”, so I replied, ” who Owen?”.

    So then I was removed from comments for not following guidelines!

    Talk about freedom of speech!

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    • Grant says:

      Wild,

      Amazing . This country is going downhill so rapidly it is hard to keep up .

         18 likes

    • Pounce says:

      Bill,
      I’m still banned from the Guardian for referring to somebody spouting abuse at me as a Richard Edward.

         17 likes

      • Grant says:

        Pounce,

        LOL ! I am surprised that they were intelligent enough to know what you meant !

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    • StewGreen says:

      Remember from Feb 2016
      “Comment Isn’t Free: Guardian to CLOSE Comments On Articles About ‘Race, Immigration and Islam”

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    • StewGreen says:

      The Guardian US just applied for charitable status
      I guess to be like all those other Political Lobbying NGOS that avoid tax like Greenpeace and the like
      (Their biggest act of world charity would be to stop publishing BS)

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      • theisland says:

        “Rachel White, president of theguardian.org, said the company’s new charitable status would encourage individuals and philanthropic organisations to make a donation.

        “The creation of theguardian.org makes it possible for us to forge key strategic partnerships, and engage a wider range of individuals and philanthropic organisations in supporting our global ground-breaking storytelling and reporting,” she said.”

        YUK, YUK and THRICE YUK !!!!

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        • MarkyMark says:

          So ALL press organisations will become charities like the Guardian USA? BBC included soon?

          “New rule: If churches don’t have to pay taxes, they can’t call the fire department when they catch fire. Sorry reverend, that’s one of those services that goes along paying in. I’ll use the fire department I pay for. You can pray for rain.”
          – Bill Maher

          If Press Organisations don’t want to pay taxes then will they lose the right to use the ambulance, police and fire services?

             7 likes

        • G says:

          TI,
          Love the, “storytelling” concept though.

             1 likes

      • Wild Bill says:

        I was in New York last week and went on the Guardian US site, every headline was Trump this, Trump that, more shite even than over here.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Good market
          Advertisers like the naive & gullible they are good customers.
          They don’t want old experienced skeptical b*stards like me and you.

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  47. G says:

    You heard if first on the BBC!! –
    ‘Snapchat’ users (10million alone in the UK) spend on average 40 mins a day exchanging ‘things’ with their young friends. Wow! That 40 mins a day will be much higher when the young things include Facebook and all the rest. I trust potential employers will assess what time potential employees starting out on their working life, will devote practically to any employment they may be given?

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  48. MarkyMark says:

    The BBC’s Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations – Pidgin Sites {youtube – Dave Cullen}
    “BBC Inspirational Comedy Channel of the Year only costs UK households £145 per year, generating £3.5bn a year which pays presenters like Labour supporting Chris Evans £2.3m salary, which people cannot stop paying because they will be sent to prison for non-payment, even though the BBC created a safe space for Jimmy Savile and as a License Payer you had no say if Pidgin Sites were what you wanted!”

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    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Thanks MM I didnt know about this, what a complete joke, who ever sanctioned this should be getting hauled over the coals. The youtube clip was very well done, very good analysis and reasoning, the Beeb should employ him – no chance of course.

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  49. Beeb Brother says:

    ‘I was a neo-Nazi, then I fell in love with a black woman.’

    What a beauty. Could this be the ultimate Beeb article, an SJW jackpot?

    LGBT? Tick.

    ‘Far right’? Tick.

    Racial issues? Tick.

    Gender/feminism? Tick.

    Pure narrative over facts? Tick.

    Allusion to the Holocaust? Tick.

    It really is beyond parody.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Trump? Tick.

      I (women) was a neo-Nazi. Then I fell in love with a black woman {bbc.co.uk aug2017}
      – Life After Hate had its government funding cut back by the Trump administration in June, but King says personal donations from around the world have helped make up the shortfall.

         7 likes

    • Tabs says:

      I read that article thinking that neo-Nazi is a “lone wolf” or “not a real neo-Nazi”.

         3 likes

    • lojolondon says:

      There is room for improvement – let me demonstrate :
      ‘I was a disabled neo-Nazi, then I fell in love with a black lesbian.’

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    • JimS says:

      “I was open-minded and tolerant, then I watched an all-female cast of Asian female ‘journalists’ on BBC News telling me that all the bad news was ‘nothing to do with Islam’ and finishing with one ‘good news’ story which had everything to with Islam. Seeking some ‘diversity’ I switched to ITV, just in time for three consecutive adverts featuring ethnic Africans. It was at this point that I lost my presence of mind and thought some bad thoughts.”

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  50. MarkyMark says:

    Stars promote themselves with Houston Flooding – can’t Chris Martin just go and help, rather than generating news about how they are going to help everyone by signing?

    Coldplay, who had to postpone a concert in Houston last week because of the hurricane, have also written a song for those affected by the floods. … They debuted the track in Miami on Monday night, with Chris Martin telling the audience it would only be played once.

    The song, called Houston, included the lyrics: “There’s a harmony that bonds down there in Houston / Oh, Houston, you got to keep on keepin’ on.”

    Beyonce offers aid to Houston flood victims {bbc.co.uk aug2017}

    Distance between Miami, where Chris Martin is and Houston (Floods) = 17 h 5 min or 1187 miles

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    • Grant says:

      Marky,

      None of these effing Luvvies ever do anything practical to help anyone except themselves. Worthless selfish hypocrite scum .

         9 likes

      • Oaknash says:

        Grant I am afraid on the whole they are all lazy and selfish.
        Quick to preach how others should live their lives not so quick to open their pockets or their houses to practice what they preach (I believe we are still waiting for Messrs Bragg and Geldof to open their houses to refugees.).

        No it is far easier to pen some cliche ridden anthem to keep themselves in the public eye and make themselves feel good and virtuous..

        I was listening to a bit of Sibelius tonight and thought – How far away from much of this modern shit is something like the Finlandia hymn, which seems to have been written from the heart and appears to be sung from the heart.

        Still these days the Love of ones country and culture for its own sake is an anachronism which Quisling toerags like the BBC will never understand and have been chipping away at for years. They have replaced patriotism with a sense of awkwardness and embarrassment and/or even hostility with suggested overtones of “waycism” Older classical pieces appearing to be valued less than the meaningless “edgy” white noise which TV “yoof” producers want to forcefeed us all with.

        These days according to the BBC the past is worth nothing and we only live in the here and now. Which also means we learn nothing from the past and are therefore doomed to make the same mistakes from history without even a strong society and culture to protect us because the left have pretty much destroyed this too.

        Bastards.

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