751 Responses to START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…..

  1. MarkyMark says:

    Ask a child at ten what they understand of the world – do these people have kids?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Tell a ten year old your genitals have to be chopped up because God says and they will probably always agree.

      Tell a teenager and you will get a ‘F**k off my genitals, are you crazy!’ – see the difference?

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    • gaxvil says:

      Outwith toffs who could and do afford to bring cases of libel and slander the idea that the opinions of ordinary people could be considered criminal would make the Stasi proud. How long before children are encouraged to inform on their parents? What have we come to?

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      • MarkyMark says:

        The German state is implementing extraordinary new measures to silence dissent about the importation of more than a million new Third World “refugees” into Germany. Apparently the illiberal practices already in place are not having enough of a deterrent effect, so the child welfare agencies are now (sep2015) authorized to remove children from the custody of parents who post “hate speech” about immigrants on Facebook.

        Whoever posts xenophobic sayings and slogans on Facebook is essentially gambling with their own children. There doesn’t even have to be a concrete (perceived hate?) criminal offense for a court to judge the welfare of the child as endangered

        It Takes a Police State to Raise a Child {gatesofvienna.net sep2015}

        – Germany says ‘Don’t use EU nationals as bargaining chips’, but happy to use children as chips to stop free speech.

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        • gaxvil says:

          Yes, but Germany does have some previous for that kind of thing.

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          • GCooper says:

            The Germans are, of course, entitled to do whatever they like in their own country. The worry is that owning the EU, as they do, their pathological obedience to authority will be enforced throughout the member states.

            What a good job we are leaving (even of we may have to defenestrate Treezer to achieve it, as we well might).

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            • Cranmer says:

              GCooper, it was not the fact that Germany wanted millions of migrants to enter their country – that is their own business as a sovereign state – it was the way they bullied and cajoled other countries into accepting them as well that was a deciding factor in my vote on Brexit.

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            • gaxvil says:

              True, my old German Jewish boss said Germans would take anything from a man in a uniform even a postman.

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              • Cranmer says:

                Gaxvil – reminds me of the joke, How many Germans does it take to change a lightbulb? Two, one to change it and the other to check with the council if it is permitted to do so on a Wednesday.

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              • Lord Wreath says:

                I’d be quite happy to see anyone in uniform, at least once in a while. Preferably a policeman who looks more like Clint Eastwood than like Laurel, Hardy, or that Izzard thing.

                I see police cars occasionally, usually going fast so that I’m not sure whether it is in fact police, or just “motorway maintenance”, BBC licence fee enforcement, or something or other.

                Our local police station now says “Prezzo”. Perhaps that’s EU speech for police. Hope some dusky Spaniard doesn’t turn up in our high street with a new delivery of butane cylinders.

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                • Cranmer says:

                  My Lord – our local police, when we see them, drive cars that look like lit-up Battenburg cakes and dress like Bosnian paramilitaries, with equipment belts with more gadgets than Batman!

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                  • GCooper says:

                    They’re electronic ‘hate speech’ detectors. Can’t be too careful in these dangerous times.

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                • BRISSLES says:

                  …..I see police cars occasionally, usually going fast so that I’m not sure whether it is in fact police, or just “motorway maintenance”, …….

                  And there was me thinking I was the only one who put my brakes on for the ‘fake’ vehicles looming up behind me !!!!!

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            • Manxman says:

              It is German auto-defenestration imo…………….. Allahu Akbar baby daddies home to stay.

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  2. DJ says:

    Say, did the Toady program really give leftist wackjob John Snow a platform to preach about the wonders of impartiality, without asking him about his ‘F*** The Tories’ moment?

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    • Number 7 says:

      Yes.

      https://order-order.com/2017/08/24/jon-snow-impartiality-is-very-precious/
      Top comment at the moment –

      “KingEric • an hour ago
      Everyone knew he was a left wing twat before he got caught saying “fuck the Tories” so if he thinks some poxy self congratulatory interview with another biased twat will change anything, he’s even more stupid than I thought. Tosser.”

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Even when individual authors do not adhere to the bias of AP Style, it often doesn’t matter. If they submit an article to a mainstream media outlet, they will likely see their words edited to conform. A pro-life author who submits a piece taking a position against abortion will see the words ‘pro-life’ changed to ‘anti-abortion,’ because the AP Stylebook instructs, ‘Use anti-abortion instead of pro-life and pro-abortion rights instead of pro-abortion or pro-choice.’ It goes on, ‘Avoid abortionist,’ saying the term ‘connotes a person who performs clandestine abortions.'”

      “Words related to terrorism are sanitized in the AP (Associated Press) Stylebook. Militant, lone wolves or attackers are to be used instead of terrorist or Islamist. ‘People struggling to enter Europe’ is favored over ‘migrant’ or ‘refugee.’ While it’s true that many struggle to enter Europe, it is accurate to point out that they are, in fact, immigrants or refugees.”

      Two New Totalitarian Movements: Radical Islam and Political Correctness {gatestoneinstitute aug2017}

      The 2017 AP Stylebook features about 200 new or revised entries and a comprehensive index. The AP Stylebook is a writing and editing reference in newsrooms, classrooms and corporate offices worldwide. ISBN: 978-0-917360-66-4. {apstylebook}

      “The Associated Press (AP) is an independent, not-for-profit news cooperative headquartered in New York City. Our teams in over 100 countries tell the world’s stories, from breaking news to investigative reporting. We provide content and services to help engage audiences worldwide, working with companies of all types, from broadcasters to brands.”
      – More than half the world’s population sees our content every day.
      – Two-thirds of our staffers are journalists.
      – Our teams operate in 263 locations worldwide.

      And this is why language and words are so important, distort the truth of the words to reflect a world you want to be, rather than the world that is – you get a confused and angry society.

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      • Cranmer says:

        A particularly weaselly piece of house style used by the BBC to describe migrants is that they are ‘fleeing poverty’. Since to the Beeb and most lefty media, poverty is a relative concept, this means that most British people could turn up on the Swiss or Norwegian border demanding asylum, because they come from a poorer country.

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  3. gaxvil says:

    Bit of a disappointing Silly Season – where’s the, “Octopuses are highly intelligent” or “Paint stripper cures cancer” stories?

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  4. Fedup says:

    For a quiet news day – i.e. One when there hasn’t Been mass murders by Islamic terrorists yet

    It’s been vintage

    Al Beeb celebrating that ONLY a quarter of a million foreigners have arrived in blight in the first 3 months of 2017. Brexit must have put the other 5 billion off.

    Hattie Harman was interviewed by my Lord Hennessy for 45 minutes. Priceless . Abridged version is on at 9pm tonight . So awful it’s comedy.

    And to top it all – I breached my own non al Beeb exposure – the admission by a broadcaster that he might be out of touch with common people who live in something called ‘Tower Blocks” . It might be good therapy to re listen to this on the iPlayer thingy if you can.

    Perhaps some of the 250 thousand newly arrived can get a job on channel snow news ?

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  5. scribblingscribe says:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/public-paid-former-bbc-dr-who-revival-pair-jane-tranter-julie-gardner-1-4m-wages-bad-wolf-productions-fslbnfssg

    … behind Time paywall, but please remove all sharp objects whilst you learn:

    The welsh assembly generously handed out 4 million quid of tax payers money to Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter to establish a TV company. The ladies promptly paid themselves 1.4 million pounds for their first year’s endeavours. And I am sure they agreed that they were worth every penny they paid each other.

    Despite a turnover of £1.8 million and a gross profit of £520,000 during this time, administrative expenses of £3.7 million meant that the company made a loss of £3.1 million.

    How on earth do the yanks make such brilliant tv programs without having their hand embedded in the pockets of the poor taxpayers?

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  6. Tabs says:

    On the BBC News home page is a photo of students getting their GCSE results. The photo had, of course, a Muslim girl wearing a hijab and the rest of the group was 4 other girls. No males. When you click away and back to the home page there is a chance the photo gets updated to a different one. The other photo has 5 different girls, no males, and the Muslim girl has been replaced with a black girl. The ethnic minority girl always has the left position.

    BBC tick list…
    1. No males – tick.
    2. Ethnic minority in every bloody photo – tick

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    • gaxvil says:

      The subnormal IQs of agencies that genuinely believe it changes hearts and minds by featuring various minorities is mind numbing.
      BTW why no men in frocks?

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      • Tabs says:

        I’ve recently noticed the sudden increase in TV adverts that have mixed race families. Adverts for online dating seem to feature a black girl dating a white male.

        The only time I see white couples in adverts is when they are advertising retirement/old age products.

        It almost as if all the old people are white and racist whilst the young are happy, progressive and liberal.

        Hmmmmm!

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        • G says:

          Tabs,
          “white couples” – what’s that?

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        • GCooper says:

          It is absolutely not an accident. People in the advertising ‘industry’ actually boast about it.

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          • JimS says:

            It’s called the ‘Ratner Marketing Method’, heap abuse on your majority customers and watch your business ‘boom’.

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            • Lobster says:

              Most of these advertising agencies simply don’t have a clue. I had this gem in a e-mail from Virgin Trains advertising visits to Birmingham.
              “Feel the Brummy buzz in the UKs second largest city. A metropolis of culture and retail, Birmingham is the jewel in the crown of the Black Country.”
              As a proud Black Country bloke I can assure Virgin Trains that any attempt to associate the Black Country with Birmingham is likely to result in the need for extensive dental treatment!

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              • Cranmer says:

                Lobster, the average ad executive probably thinks a ‘yam yam’ is some sort of vegetable eaten by West Indians.

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              • gaxvil says:

                Err ……… Birmingham is not in the Black Country unless they mean skin colour.

                It’s on a par with saying Japan is the jewel in China’s crown.

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                • BRISSLES says:

                  Even cartoon families in adverts show a very dusky bearded male with a very pale female. Considering the population is 80-20, its certainly 50-50 according to our advertising agencies. Yet no-one dare say anything ! The lunatics have taken over the asylum. If there’s a white, there HAS to be a black regardless. Funny then, how the paler you are on the Indian sub continent the more highly regarded you are.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Take a look at the ‘Tesco Food Love Stories’ campaign that they’ve been running in their stories. It features the favourite recipes of ‘ordinary’ people. Plenty of smiling black faces, ‘Asian’ faces, meditterranean types, homosexual couples, lesbian couples. It’s a vast panoply of people – few of these types ever seem to actually visit my local store – but I understand that demographics are different in urban areas and that Tesco need to sell their goods to everyone. But there is one glaring omission: there are no white, heterosexual couples on show. Ever. It’s called ‘ethnic cleansing by exclusion’. Tesco would do well to remember this and that, as they say, ‘other supermarkets are available’.

        https://www.tesco.com/food-love-stories/

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        • GCooper says:

          The problem is the difficulty of registering any sort of protest about this, very deliberate, propaganda campaign.

          The executives at Tesco who approved the campaign will either be young university brainwashed types who nod in eager agreement when the ad agency shows them the images it is proposing to use, or older types, simply too scared to raise objections for fear of the ‘r-word’ being used and their retirement plans hurriedly brought forward.

          This happens daily in offices all across the country, particularly in companies with strong HR departments (hotbeds of Leftism and feminazism) where BBC-think is enforced with a ferocity the NKVD would have envied.

          The same is true of customers. How are you going to complain without sounding like Himmler? It is true that you can shop elsewhere, but that doesn’t send the message that needs forcibly sending, nor is it always even possible.

          Somehow, this ‘right on’ stranglehold neds to be broken and smashed but so far no one seems to have worked out how.

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        • Grant says:

          Ian,

          Tesco are stupid. Targetting minorities probably won’t win them any new customers and could well lose them old ones.

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          • Ian Rushlow says:

            Grant
            But of course, it’s not about winning new customers. Tesco have spent hundreds of millions in computer systems to monitor their stores and customers. Every store has a unique profile, which is used for stocking and determining the goods, based on demographics and sales and constantly updated. For instance, there is no demand for ethnic products where I am so the local store does not stock them, whereas there is a vast and exotic collection of everything under the sun in, say, in their Wembley Extra Store, as the population is more varied. So, there’s no reason why the large ‘Tesco Food Love’ posters in the entrances, which are updated weekly, shouldn’t reflect their clients, too.
            Unless ‘Tesco Food Love’ really means ‘Tesco Britain Hate’…

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            • Rob in Cheshire says:

              Jack Cohen started Tesco with his army gratuity after his service in World War I. I doubt he’d like the way the company, and indeed the country, have changed.

              PS: Is this hate speech? If so, should I report myself to the DPP, or just wait for the dawn raid?

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        • BRISSLES says:

          ……there are no white, heterosexual couples on show. Ever. ….. Not strictly true, unless Rob Brydon and Ruth Jones are of another persuasion ! but I know what you mean. The Sainsbury ad where outdoor eating is featured, there is only a long shot of one white face around a table of at least a dozen people.

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        • Manxman says:

          Ive just been to tesco’s saw a blackman, been a while since i have, well dressed young fella, financial centre import probably,….. i just thought sheesh tesco’s has got the lot, from the 30 stone morbidly obese cashier to the disabled doorman, a blackman and cheescake at half price.

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      • Manxman says:

        Here you go gax, proper Beeb knee-tremblers
        Got it all, beta immigrant and a mentally not-normal.
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        • The Technical Team says:

          Pleased to see the boy Owen at least managed to align the buttons on his shirt with the button holes. Maybe now his mum will teach him the art of velcro fastening.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Re Radio4 switch on Bingo and getting green/pet-issue matters shoved in your face
    After 3am the next ime I switched on
    was 8:45am They were banging on about the Arctic Ice falling scary scary ..from the ice yacht
    OFF

    9:03am OK let me see what Melvyn Bragg is talking about
    Nope it’s someone going on about BBCPet Issue :Women’s special victim status
    Talking about her childhood the Woman is on about her mother standing for the Liberal Party
    .. ah then it becomes apparent she herself became a Labour MP herself “Harriet Harman, the former Deputy Labour Leader”

    It’s not that often I switch on and it’s a non Lib politician talking about their childhood

    BBC progs this year about Harriet Harman
    BBC One – The Andrew Marr Show, 29/01/2017, Harriet Harman 29 Jan 2017.

    “BBC Radio 4 – Woman’s Hour, Harriet Harman
    1 Feb 2017 – Labour’s Harriet Harman talks about her political and personal battles for equality fought over three decades at Westminster and the revelations ”

    GrahamNorton show Series 20 Ep16
    Harriet Harman explains the difference between how men and women are seen in politics.
    3 February 2017

    Weekend Woman’s Hour
    “Harriet Harman, Clemmie Hooper, Bereavement Support”
    4 February 2017

    BBC Radio 2 – Jeremy Vine’s Being Human, Harriet Harman 27mins
    8 Feb 2017 – Harriet Harman tells us why family and politics makes us human.

    Radio Scotland “Sunday Morning with…, In conversation with Harriet Harman”
    19 February 2017 1 hour, 55 minutes

    “BBC Radio 4 – A Good Read, Harriet Harman 14 Mar 2017 ”

    Politics Fast and Slow Tue 21 Mar 2017
    Free Thinking, Festival 2017 Episode 3 of 16
    Harriet Harman, talks to Free Thinking presenter Philip Dodd about championing women’s rights and sustaining a political career in a fast-changing political landscape.

    Radio4 : Gender equality is within reach
    HH was on the panel
    Wed 12 Apr 2017

    “BBC Parliament – Conversations, Harriet Harman 45 mins
    9 Jul 2017 – Sean Curran talks to former deputy leader of the Labour Party Harriet Harman about her life and political career.”

    I listed her mainly exclusive appearances, I didn’t include all the extra appearances like when she was on R4Today, R5 etc. Edinburgh Book show etc.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Jeez right now 10:45-11am in the Victorian drama ..the nasty police are raiding a London House for illegal aliens.

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      • gaxvil says:

        Who listens to this kind of output? Who are Alt bbc catering to?
        It’s like watching a dim child beating a long dead frog.

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    • G says:

      StewGreen,
      Its a bit like the Bond film, “Tomorrow Never Dies’. The plot is “……to stop Elliot Carver, a power-mad media mogul, from engineering world events to initiate World War III.” –
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow_Never_Dies
      Ring any bells?

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    • GCooper says:

      If there is one thing Harriet Harman is, it isn’t a ‘free thinker’. She is locked into an ideological corset as restrictive as her great grandmother’s stays.

      Which means it’s not difficult to understand why the BBC worships the ground she walks on, for all that she isn’t so much destined to be a footnote in history as a flyblown spec on the page.

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      • Cranmer says:

        Nowadays ‘free thinker’ seems to mean free of logic, rationality or any sense of historical perspective.

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    • Fedup says:

      Stew
      Come on lighten up – in days when albeeb doesn’t create comedy any more at least we have Hattie.

      I wouldn’t know where to start with her ( me being a chap). Her MP union paid husband must be a very special person . Or deaf.

      I remember her when she was a sweet you legal advisor to Pat Hewitt in the NCCL back in the seventies. A promising tax payer funded career of climbing the greasy east European guest worker .

      As she was interviewed this morning I looked her up on wiki to remind myself about her support for PIE and prevent MPs expenses from being published and having to give money back when she got caught

      Sending her three kids to grammar and selective schools

      Getting done for speed on her way between her numerous home in town and country.

      Oh Hattie – what a justification for mysogony you could be – see Hilary Clinton for the US version.

      Nice to see al Beeb giving her air though. The hardest thing to believe was that some uni professor wanted to give her on to get her from a 2-2 (thick ) to a 2-1. Wonder who the poor sod was.? I might have thought about it for a first and a guaranteed ride on the taxpayer gravy train….

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    • Synchronised says:

      Not forgetting she doubted Blair, Blair wins elections, Blair’s great.
      Warns about Jezza. Jezza does OK in an election, Jezzas the second coming.
      Serious fence sitter.

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      • StewGreen says:

        To summarise within the last 7 months, the BBC has done 7 progs telling the life story of Harriet Harman
        a total of about 4 hours.
        In addition she’s been a panelist/guest on a number of shows like Graham Norton, Book shows etc.

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      • Grant says:

        Synch,

        And Blair sacked her. I seem to remember her website was hacked and she admitted that she had used ” Harriet Harman ” as both her username and password. Not the sharpest tool in the box !

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        • MarkyMark says:

          Just like … “The News of the World phone hacking operation was made easier to achieve by the widespread use of default or easy-to-guess passcodes. It’s simple to change yours to something more secure.” {telegraph jul2011}

          – I only find this out this year, it was not spread very well in the press that press had phoned up celebrities phones and accessed their voice recordings by entering default passwords.
          – A different story to using the word ‘hacked’ all the time rather than ‘illegally accessed by using a default phone passcode which should be always be changed when a phone is purchased.’
          – ‘hacked’ sounds a lot more sophisticated and demonic, rather then relying on peoples stupidity and not reading instructions.
          – Good news is phone voicemails no longer have default stupid passcodes.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Mark:

            That’s all the “phone hacking” scandal was: journos phoning the mobiles of so-called celebrities, and dialling in “123”or “000” when they got the voicemail. That’s it.

            No-one gave a toss until the Guardian lied about the News of the World doing it to Millie Dowler’s phone and deleting messages. This was untrue, but it allowed the Guardian to get the News of the World shut down. As with all communists, the ends justify the means.

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  8. G says:

    A useful graph creation tool to distinguish immigration into the UK from a country of origin perspective for the years, 2004 to 2015. https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-population-country-birth/#create-graph
    The first supplied graph clearly shows that the bulk of immigration into the UK is from “non EU”. It is my belief that most who voted ‘Leave’ did so to stop immigration overall, little realising that coming out the EU would have no effect upon the disproportionate number arriving from outside the EU, mainly India and Pakistan.

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    • Number 7 says:

      It does mean that the government won’t be able to blame the EU (pass the buck) for hordes of immigrants arriving on our shores.

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    • Cranmer says:

      G that is probably true – although a sovereign UK parliament after Brexit will have more chance of controlling immigration because it will not have to unconditionally accept people like Merkel’s Millions once they are given EU citizenship and will also be able to eject EU troublemakers like Roma gypsies etc. It will also not be subject to European court rules preventing the ejection of terrorists on grounds of human rights etc.

      All this is of course assuming a. we get Brexit and b. there is the political will to implement sensible immigration policies, neither of which looks certain by any means! We may even get MORE non-EU immigration because globalists may claim there is some sort of post- Brexit labour shortage and will try to replace eastern European labour with workers from the third world.

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      • Fedup says:

        Blimey if I were a gypo I don’t think the reich would be very high on my places to go list after what happened to them last time. I suppose the welfare has a bit of guilt built into it.

        Cranmer – please don’t refer to our fellow Commonwealth citizens as “third world” you must know the balti restaurants cum health hazards are always bitching about lack of staff.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      G – Don’t forget the irregular migrants!
      “A complex, ruthless and multinational migrant-smuggling network has developed around Europe’s unprecedented (self inflicted by political stupidity?) migration crisis, thus generating billions of euros for the criminal groups involved. (don’t worry – it’s wealth creation!)

      In 2014, the number of irregular migrants (see the change in language? illegal to irregular!) arriving in the EU surged, reaching more than one million (illegal missing here?) migrants the following year. Europol believes this trend of rapidly increasing numbers is set to continue. (so what is the estimate now? Too scary to show?)

      The facilitation of illegal immigration is one of the nine EMPACT priorities, Europol’s priority crime areas, under the 2013-2017 EU Policy Cycle.
      This development has had a profound impact on Europe’s criminal landscape (and terrorism?), with criminal networks substantially increasing their involvement in migrant smuggling. More than 90 % of the migrants travelling to the EU used facilitation (language again – facilitation instead of illegal smugglers) services. In most cases, these services (illegal?) were offered and provided by criminal groups.
      ..
      Migrant smuggling networks have proven flexible and resilient, adapting to law enforcement actions by quickly changing the routes they use to smuggle migrants to the EU. These routes are constantly diversifying (diversity is our strength!) and changing.

      FACILITATION OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION {europol.europa.eu}

      – In the report it says in a 36 hour operation they caught 39 smugglers and 580 smuggled migrants.

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      • gaxvil says:

        So true. Trudeau says they check all undocumented illegals and they’re all safe.
        What a brilliant country. Why don’t we all have their tech or psychic abilities or magic mirrors?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      That would be the Americans, G, plus the occasional Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and South Africans that the BBC recruit to either work for them, make occasional programmes for them or to act as contributors to BBC News & Current Affairs programmes.

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  9. gaxvil says:

    Thing is, why should the UK even care what America does anymore than we care about other nations? We should be interested to have a good relationship with the US but that’s it. The left, however, are terrified that we might pick up when Trump speaks ‘inconvenient truths’ that are applicable to Britain. The Alt bbc are the crazy parent who would like us chained in the cellar to ‘protect’ us from the World.
    The left may control, Google, the Press, FaceBook, PayPal, TV an all but still ……………..

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  10. mikerophone says:

    So Andrew Neil has been replaced on the Sunday Politics Show by Sarah Smith, the daughter of former Labour leader John Smith. No bias there then.

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    • Fedup says:

      Mike – yes – and no watching there then either. Must have cheered a lot of mp s of all colours during their short holiday after such a demanding year as sheep. Diane Abbot must be mortified.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      The only presenter I would actually agree to pay my TV license for, Andrew Neil, leaves the BBC.

      BBC News 23Aug17@22:20 Gary “£1.75m + BT Sport + Crisps + Early Pension” Lineker being interviewed by BBC for his BBC views on the BBC Sport regarding football and not Brexit.

      Doesn’t Gary flood the waves with his opinion on his own programmes anyway?

      – the one presenter (Gary Lineker) I don’t even watch gets more airtime on the BBC and was probably paid for the extra appearance.
      – the presenter I do like (Andrew Neil) leaves the BBC. How do I stop my payments to Gary’s wages without going to prison?

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  11. Pounce says:

    I see the bBC is doing what it does the best:

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    • MarkyMark says:

      I see the police are running Honey Traps now for possible criminal intent? Have I misread this article?

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      • Pounce says:

        Mark,
        I followed that tweet and was really surprised by the main picture on their Twitter site:

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      • Grant says:

        This must be a joke. What the hell has it to do with the police ? They remind me of the BBC. Just when you think they cannot sink any lower, they surprise you. By the way do they advise christians on christian pilgrimages ?

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      • Lord Wreath says:

        I thought we had Thomas Cook for this sort of thing?

        “That’s the way the money goes …….”

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    Eurocrats to receive 3.7 per cent pay increase, European Court of Justice rules {telegraph.co.uk 2010}
    The European Court of Justice has ruled that the EU should pay a full 3.7 per cent pay rise to Eurocrats, despite fierce opposition from Britain and other member states.

    Wednesday’s decision paves the way for the estimated 50,000 EU civil servants to get the increase, with six months paid retrospectively, in time to celebrate the New Year.
    As EU officials, the ECJ judges in Luxembourg, who earn £215,000 a year, themselves stand to benefit from the pay rise while Baroness Ashton, the EU foreign affairs chief, will pocket an extra £9,000 on top of her basic annual salary of £241,000.

    The Court ruling comes after national governments, including Britain, mounted a legal challenge to halve the inflation busting increase in salaries and pensions.

    “The Court is blind to the financial anguish that is affecting millions across the continent, but they just don’t care. In these times of crisis for countries across the EU it ill serves Eurocrats to be awarding themselves pay rises, whining that their purchasing power has dropped. They must be blind, stupid or just arrogant.

    – 3.7% pay rise (backdated) in 2010, two years after economic gloom of 2008
    – On top of expenses for European Commissioners
    European Commissioners don’t want anybody to know what they are spending {The two-year battle for EU Commissioners’ travel expenses, described – access-info.org}

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  13. gaxvil says:

    Watched, ‘Zero Dark Thirty’ again on sky. I’ll swear they’ve cut the bit where he’s shot. The bit where he’s using his wife as a shield?

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  14. gaxvil says:

    Hold the press!
    The American bald eagle has been called out as a KKK, racist trigger.

    Guess they’ll all have to be shot?

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  15. Manxman says:

    Heres trumps arizona speech, its a great speech he eviscerates the press core and the democratic party, with all their lies what he actually said, he read out, and then what they said he said, he destroys them, literally then mocks them by name as their live broadcast lights start going out as they stop transmitting live about half-way in as he opens americans eyes to MARXISM, explains it, and the destruction of americas identity…
    He basically names and shames the so called resistance, how they are purposefully dividing america, trying to tear it apart, to chants of drain the swamp, Its a great speech, and it is why the left here hate him, he sees clear thru them, he isnt a politician, he is a man on a pre planned mission, he objective is to destroy the left in the west, America first, whilst smiling in UN and EU faces, and telling them ..fuck you…..but in a nice way and removing the most important thing to marxists, the money honey,……………..he will starve their gravy train,………………..thats like starving cancer of blood.

    We really are reaching the end game, the Marxists were so close, maybe a decade at most to total subservience, willingly or not, so close, Brexit and Trump, have put their mission into hyper-drive, and everyone with eyes can see what they are, who they are, and what sick bastards.

       25 likes

    • G says:

      Manxman,

      He could have been talking “media” about the BBC!

         2 likes

      • Manxman says:

        exactly G, his speech’s are messages to progressives everywhere,,…… ”i’m -a coming after yall bigly baby”.

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    WatO and Martha Kearney, without any irony whatsoever, is currently doing an item about Jon Snow’s speech about ‘media elites’ in Edinburgh.

    Where is this particular programme coming from? The Edinburgh Arts Festival!

    The trail before the News at 1pm was for this: ‘In Enlightenment After Dark, Allan Little hosts a series of discussions in the spirit of the Scottish Enlightenment, in places associated with historical Enlightenment encounters.’

    Where from? Edinburgh and the Arts Festival.

    No man-made Global Warming emissions or lack of elitism holding back the BBC from going north from London or Salford then.

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  17. Manxman says:

    When you think about it, the only difference between a lefty emoter an us,………. is all contained in the top 4 inches of our bodies.

       4 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Manxie, ha ha – yes, indeed. St Paul had it all wrong about ‘the bowels of compassion’ then. Funny thing, listening to WatO today had me coping with something ‘way down south’.

      It made me feel sick!

      Could it have been the arrogant yet condescending, elitist, overpaid and completely non-self-aware BBC?

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  18. Manxman says:

    Yeah, if ever there was an organisation more worthy than the BBC of a visit from one of allah’s more explosive follows , ive not heard of it

       7 likes

  19. seismicboy says:

    Big net migration fall since Brexit vote, latest estimates show
    “Net migration has fallen to the lowest level for three years after a surge in the number of EU nationals leaving the UK since last June’s Brexit vote.”
    Q. Why would they want to leave, one assumes they all have jobs and, after all, they have been offered a good status – NHS, pensions etc?
    A. Methinks this is the start of the removal of opportunists, formerly known as illegal immigrants until the advent of political correctness and the liberal media.
    Not before time.

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    • Grant says:

      seismic,

      Some guy says it could lead to a “skills shortage “. I wonder how many skilled workers and professionals have left ? Also, why would they be leaving ? I smell bullshit.

      I have been dealing with great Polish manager here recently who works for a Scottish company . I saw him today and asked him if he was thinking of leaving. He said ” Why ? I like it here and I have an excellent, well paid job “. I don’t suppose the BBC will want to interview him. One of the Directors ( Scottish ) appeared and said ” Grant , these scaremongers do not understand the realities of the World “

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  20. Tabs says:

    A BBC egg on their face moment!

    The BBC website has a GCSE quiz of 10 questions to see how smart you are…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41004369

    Unfortunately no-one has checked it properly as question 10 has 2 answers repeated in the 1st and 4th options. If you choose the 4th option you get the question wrong even though it’s correct.

    Not only that but if you answer everything wrong and get 0 out of 10 score you get the message “Well done, perhaps all those years in school haven’t been forgotten about.”

    Quality stuff from the BBC – must be the unique way they are funded or something!?!

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  21. gaxvil says:

    Hundreds of migrants squatting in and around the Rome square clash with Police. They have the same rights as Italian citizens and want houses BUT many Italians are demanding public housing also. Aye there’s the rub.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwtbFCJvqY

       17 likes

    • Synchronised says:

      The banner at the bottom of the building translates to “We are refugee’s, not terrorists”. Judging by the behaviour of some of these some may beg to differ. Cast you mind back to Berlusconi’s time in office and some may remember that a number of, for want of a better word “undesirables” were camped on the banks of the Tiber. One murder too many and he had the place cleaned up PDQ.

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  22. tomo says:

    Ah… the BBC self congratulatory circle jerk on Alan Partridge

    Trouble is … their everyday presenter’s antics exceed what purports to be parody….

       7 likes

  23. StewGreen says:

    Spin on Jon Snow talking about the problem of FakeNews
    from Australian FakeNews site the Drum

       7 likes

  24. StewGreen says:

    Switch On Bingo
    Radio 4 now on about BBC Pet topic of gender stereotypes
    \\Cordelia Fine is a professor of the history and philosophy of science at the University of Melbourne.
    Her book “Testosterone Rex” explores the science behind gender.
    She argues that testosterone isn’t necessarily the basis for masculinity and that there is so much more to gender than merely our biological sex.//

       2 likes

    • GCooper says:

      I got to the point with R4 where I simply gave up. It’s almost impossible now to switch on and not hear some talking point straight from the crazier pages of the Guardian.

         8 likes

  25. StewGreen says:

    Some spin here
    Time printed edition : Census of overseas students
    Cos despite giving students visas and visa renewals the gov has lost track

    Yet the online version now has this headline
    “Few foreign students overstaying their visas”

       4 likes

    • Grant says:

      Just proves you can’t trust Government statistics on anything.

         5 likes

      • GCooper says:

        Well, we certainly know that successive governments have lied about immigration levels. And, of course, the BBC has accidentally overlooked this omission for some unimaginable reason.

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    New word found today which is ‘lookism’ – prejudice or discrimination on the grounds of a person’s appearance.

    “Damore recalled on email that included an employee complaining about a co-worker who ‘suggested to use a picture of an attractive person on an ad (web advert), to increase the number of clicks’. (heaven offend). According to Dmore it was ‘apparently a case of lookism to the offended Google employee’ ”

    How is This a Thing? 21st of August 2017 – Computing Forever @7:19 {youtube}

    How about ‘ismism’ the overuse of ‘ism’ suffix to try and explain the World away and stop people doing anything?

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  27. StewGreen says:

    WTF : “You are illegal LAW BREAKER, so I’ll let you off !”
    Judge spares illegal migrant for being ‘decent’

       3 likes

  28. StewGreen says:

    Times : Canival thugs are poised to use Grenfell as a pretext.
    The old “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder, so I can hit out”

       4 likes

  29. StewGreen says:

    BBC execs throw out a meme to deflect critism ?

       3 likes

  30. StewGreen says:

    Wow another grooming gang trial in Newcastle
    This time it’s Kurdish
    As usual BBC will claim it’s just a small local story.

       5 likes

  31. StewGreen says:

    Imams demand pay parity with Priests and rabbis
    ..Sure the taxpayer can pay for that.

       4 likes

    • Grant says:

      Stew,

      I have never seen a poor Imam in any country I have been to !

         3 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      “…and don’t you worry. It’s coming to a place near you…we cannot have state subsidized preachers…give it up or give it to your deadliest enemy and pay for the rope that will choke you. .. you will be told you can’t complain because you are Islamophobic ”

      “New rule: If churches don’t have to pay taxes, they can’t call the fire department when they catch fire. Sorry reverend, that’s one of those services that goes along paying in. I’ll use the fire department I pay for. You can pray for rain.”
      – Bill Maher

         4 likes

  32. StewGreen says:

    Aaaronovitch : “Spain atrocities risk adding to the mistaken perception Islam intrinsically hostile to western values”
    I thought that sexual equality in court was a western value conflicting with the Koran.
    Tho I heavily respect ex-Muslims and Muslims who are not free to leave the faith.

       1 likes

  33. StewGreen says:

    Yesterday columnist Clare Foges argued against online victimhood
    confronted by Times letter which supports police spending time on chasing Facebook thought crime
    signed Lucinda Berger : Labour MP
    Seconfd letter signed David Munro PCC Surrey
    “Hatecrime is an act not a thought” so should be rigorously policed

       2 likes

    • GCooper says:

      For hate crime, read ‘Common Purpose’.

         4 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        Good anagram for ‘Common Purpose’ is ‘Common Purse’, plus PO (piss off, we know what we are doing with your money, you don’t)…

           2 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      While this silly old fool tried to make a story out of the failure of his spads to get him a proper ticket is still laughable, I don’t think the front page of the failing Private Eye is at all in good taste.

      Hislop is now just a bbbc sockpuppet, neither funny or even relevant these days.

      As an old friend once said after she cancelled her sub to PE, they rang her up to ask why, and she just said ‘I’ve grown up now’!

         7 likes

      • Grant says:

        Scrobbie,

        I made the mistake of renewing a few months ago. About 5 issues remain unopened and unread. One reason is that , like Hislop , it is not funny any more. Another is that it is fanatically anti-Brexit. Started subscribing to ” The Oldie ” instead. Much better and more mature, as you would expect, if you can stomach Gyles Brandreth’s obsessive name-dropping.

           5 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          Grant, that’s exactly what my chum did!

          I’ll ask her what she thinks now – she walks past most days!

          I still have some very early 1964 PEs, and they were wonderful, especially with stories about ‘The Clintistorit of Wintistering’, and Barry McKenzie! Paul Foot was magnificent. The uncovering of ‘The Slicker of Wakefield’ was real serious investigative journalism, and hard facts emerged which totally floored the architectural profession to its roots. A good old chum was on the RIBA Committee, which eventually had sickness and diarrhoea for a very, very long time, and he admitted that it was all down to a Private Eye investigation, which wouldn’t happen today!

          Compare the great (and very left-wing) work of Paul Foot with ‘journos’ nowadays. He never spat at others, he got on with his job and worked bloody hard. (Forget any bbbc autocue stuff as ‘journos’, they’re irrelevant passers-on of ‘manager’s’ edicts).

          The Anti-Brexit stance must have lost PE a huge number of readers, rather like the bbc has lost an even larger number of watchers. They’re all past it.

             11 likes

          • Grant says:

            Scrobbie,

            The Poulson scandal and so many others …..

            Barry McKenzie, there is a blast from the past !

            I think it started going downhill after Richard Ingrams left. Also when Peter Cook passed away.

               4 likes

            • Scroblene says:

              I’ll perform a ‘Single-Leg Arkwright’ to that, Grant! Twenty-seven pints Doris!

              Colemanballs was reasonably amusing once too, but was upstaged by Spitting Image, who ludicrously claimed that they could have won the GE for Labour! If he hadn’t said that, the producer would still have had an admirer, but that’s what happens when you shoot your gob off without thinking of the consequences.

              It’s called ‘growing up’, rather like my good lady chum said, and who walks past most days…

                 3 likes

  34. Fedup says:

    Al beeb seems to be in bed with the cbi moaning about guest workers leaving Blighty chiefly because the pound and euro are near parity

    But 250000 officially arrived in the first quarter of 2017 . That is a disaster .

    Funny how news is relative

       9 likes

    • GCooper says:

      The CBI is simply a pressure group for giant multinationals, in whose interests cheap labour and a nice easy to control bureaucracy working on their behalf to suppress competition is heaven. No wonder the BBC loves them.

         8 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      “Funny how news is relative”…

      Especially when it involves the rest of the extended family coming to join them all soon…

         3 likes

  35. Beeb Brother says:

    A woman on Radio 4 says fewer than 1% of rape allegations are false. How can she possibly know this unless she is somehow magically present at every sexual encounter? Of course she was not challenged on such a patently absurd and untestable claim. Women can be extremely devious and bear a grudge – which makes the percentage of false rape claims likely to be far higher.

    This fake rape woman cost us a fortune and was a nasty piece of work, but if anyone criticised her it could be seen as ‘misogyny.’ If she was personally upset by your comments – however true and reasonable they may be – you would be guilty of thought crime. It’s terrifying.

       10 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      A woman on Radio 4 says fewer than 1% of rape allegations are false
      A 15 year old girl going to the police or social services to complain she has been raped multiple times by a ‘gang of men’ in a northern city may well discover that her allegation is considered to be false, and that she should ‘shut up for the sake of diversity’.

         12 likes

  36. Ian Rushlow says:

    Is it to put the idea in viewers heads that many of the rape incidences that they have heard about in recent months may in fact be bogus. That stories of gang rape by people with Pakistani and Muslim sounding names may be bogus?
    I’m guessing that is what is meant by the term ‘rhetorical question’.

       5 likes

    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Hi Ian – sorry I deleted my comment as I ran out of time when editing it and posted the edited version below.

         0 likes

  37. Manxman says:

    Oopsey. .. BBC go-wan go-wan go-wan you know you wanna, ……… oopsey, i didnt really mean go-wan go-wan go-wan tell us a real story………thanks for calling ..but not the ”direction” i meant bye.

       7 likes

  38. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    The bBBC announces a load of new leftie programmes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2017/bbc-one-edinburgh
    ‘Grenfell’, about the ‘powerful human stories’ of the tower block fire, that somehow manages not to mention how hundreds of illegal immigrants get housed in the richest part of London and sub-let their flats to make money out of more illegal immigrants
    ‘The Stephen Lawrence Story’, where the entire British judicial system was turned upside down to favour black gangsters
    ‘A Season on Obesity’, where the bBBC examines the effect that broadcasting lots of programmes on baking cakes has on making people fat …
    click

       15 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Tonight in the prime time hour of 9pm, three out of the four terrestrial channels are showing ‘life’ documentaries !
      BBC1 Ambulance
      ITV The Brighton Police
      Ch4 24 Hours in A & E

      Back to the jigsaw then.

         7 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        You’re being ‘Outsidist’ now Brissles.

        All jigsaws need the corners first, then the edges, then the coloured bits, but you’ve completely ignored the middle bits with no meaning, no history, no relation to reality, no colour, no shape, no bits that fit unless you hit them with a hammer! ‘Innerist’ means you do the opposite.

        Shame on you, you should be watching a Gary Lineker ad for disgusting greasy Walker’s crisps, and sipping a sugar-free, alcohol-free lager-free-top!

        Sometimes I wonder why I come here to read important things, but being attendant to an ‘Outsidist’; well that just takes the biscuit…

        (halal of course).

           6 likes

      • Grant says:

        Brissles,

        I never cease to wonder why, if the NHS, Police etc are so busy and overstretched, they have time to waste on documentaries ?

           6 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          Grant, we used to believe the way the police worked from decent progs like Z cars, and The Sweeney, well nearly all…

          Don’t really do that nowadays.

             3 likes

          • Grant says:

            Scrobbie,

            The police are part of the problem , not the solution. When I see them swaggering around dressed like Gestapo and failing to deal with serious crime, I am afraid, very afraid.

               7 likes

      • Number 7 says:

        Bristles
        You should have watched BBC4.

        Basically the story of the firearm ‘spears to rifles and machine guns’.
        We might need them sometime.

           0 likes

  39. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The BBC are going crazy promoting a story that is now two hours old with the headline: ‘Serial liar’ jailed after bogus rape claims”. A 25 year old white woman has been jailed for TEN YEARS for making up bogus rape claims. The BBC had plastered this story (and her face) on the BBC homepage, the BBC News homepage, their UK news section and their English News section.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41037826

    The BBC specifically name two of the victims of the bogus claims: … “In a victim impact statement, Mahad Cassim, who was wrongly convicted of raping Beale in 2010 … Beale had also falsely claimed she was groped by a stranger, Noam Shahzad, in a pub in July 2012. She alleged she was then gang-raped by him and other men … ”

    Compare the coverage of the above story with the Live ManHunt story two days ago of an “Asian” who attempted to rape a ten year old girl in Surrey. That story never made the BBC homepage nor the BBC News homepage – and they quickly buried the story. And that Asian paedophile is still on the loose.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-41015851

    So why are the BBC going crazy headlining all over their website this white woman who made the bogus claims of rape. And why are the BBC only specifically naming Mr Mahad Cassim and a Mr Shahzad, both with Muslim/Pakistani sounding names, as those who have been falsely accused of rape? (Mahad is a contraction for Muhammad).

    Is it to put the idea in viewers heads that many of the recent stories that they may have heard about regarding gang rape by people with Pakistani and Muslim sounding names may in fact be bogus – as in this story the BBC are desperately promoting?

    And what about the impact on real rape victims? This woman got ten years of prison time after her allegations of rape failed to be proved. Will real rape victims be more likely or less likely to report rape after reading this story?

       15 likes

    • Grant says:

      BBC,

      I wonder if any of the other victims were non-muslims ?

         5 likes

    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      My first thought on this was surprise that a woman has actually been given a custodial sentence. And now knowing that at least some of her victims were from the special community I can see why it was quite a long stretch even though she’ll be out in 5 years. No doubt to continue where she left off.

      I was also thinking how in the hell the police continued to investigate her serial allegations – a giant lesbian land whale, with whom even the most unfinicky bloke with the biggest beer goggles would have trouble getting it on.

      Then again, look at Rotherham etc and see what lines of enquiry they don’t pursue. The Police Service seems just like another useless, tick-box , local authority type employer – a dumping ground for more useless apparatchiks emerging from our ‘universities’.

         7 likes

      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Hi imaynotalwaysloveyou – this is an excellent comment and something I was also thinking about. Can you repost it on the new Open thread – so it is not “lost” to others. I have reposted my comment on the new open thread. Thanks.

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  40. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    ‘Brown sauce’ thrown from car window in racial attack
    “Brown sauce” was thrown from a car window and splattered another vehicle in what police are treating as a racially aggravated crime.

    The victim was driving on Woodbridge Road East in Ipswich when a black Vauxhall Corsa drew alongside and threw something from the window, police said.

    The substance, believed to be brown sauce, went on the door and dashboard.

    A Police spokesman said “we have nothing better to do with our time”

       15 likes

    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      I think the police get extra bonus points and cash for recording and investigating hate crime. Essentially anything perceived as an attack on a person of non-white skin pigmentation is a candidate for being labelled a hate crime.

         3 likes

  41. MarkyMark says:

    A towns worth of serially raped girls reduced to ‘3 Girl’s. Easy when you don’t have to worry about funding and can repeat, repeat, repeat.

    So brave, everyone is talking about it …

       5 likes

  42. Oaknash says:

    FFS! – I thought this was a joke story. I expect we can expect more of the same sort of “fillers” far more important than reporting on rapes and murders.

    If it was brown sauce I wonder whether any “sausage ” crime was involved. It could not have been ketchup because that is better on bacon! I hope the plods catch this bastard and lock him up for this terrible “hate” crime (he may even die behind bars if hes unlucky) Serve him right fascist pig!

       5 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Oak, we’re in deep trouble here…

      Pork – naaaaah, not allowed.
      Skin on sausages – more prk until the EU got involved, now it’s plastic.
      Hate – they really mean ”’ate’.
      Pig – ooops.
      Ketchup – colour again.
      Brown – don’t go there.
      Fillers – yup, all Ipswich burgers contain them.
      Murders – what a group of blokes after ten pints of lager say about several curries apiece.
      Sausage – behave!

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