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  1. Dystopian says:

    Just a thought.
    Is arachnophobia classed as racism against spiders? I don’t want them in my house so I throw them outside. I don’t want them taking over.
    My family members are so afraid of them they just want them gone.
    Is that hate crime against spiders?


    • nogginator says:

      I used to watch, “play your cards right” and “Sunday night at the London Palladium”, but sadly I kept saying “good game, good game” and put a bit of old carpet on my head … then I developed Geniophobia and had to give it up.


    • Iain Muir says:

      Spiders don’t seem so bad when you have tropical/sub tropical ‘roaches to contend with.

      I’ll never forget the day I discovered that the damn things can fly (as adults). Scottish weather has one or two advantages.


  2. Thoughtful says:

    An interesting statistic.

    Romanians now account for 1/325th of the population

    Romanians now account for 1/20 of the UK Prison population

    If we were allowed to send them back to Romania (The EU won’t allow it) then we could free up 4250 prison places.

    At a cost of £50K pa for each prison place that means it’s costing us £2.125 million pa

    That however does not include the costs to the victims, both material and emotional. I think it is utterly sickening that the rats in the HoL of the Liberal & Labour party want to keep these people in the UK to predate us. Shows how much they think of white people.


    • Lobster says:

      Thoughtful – I make it £212.50 million p.a. – I think you’ve got the decimal point in the wrong place. That would pay for a lot of hospital beds wouldn’t it?


    • maxincony says:

      Thoughtful, your post is nonsense.

      The are 700 Romanians in UK prisons. That’s 1/125 (0.8%) of the prison population. They aren’t deported because of the European Convention on Human Rights (due to the state of Romanian Prisons) which is nothing to do with the EU.


      • Thoughtful says:

        maxincony The figure would appear to be the number of EU nationals in UK prisons.

        As for your comment that they cannot be returned due to the human rights act I say to you that is nonsense as they would have served the prison sentence prior to being returned and the state of Romanian prisons is therefore irrelevant.
        It is EU law that foreign nationals cannot be repatriated save for serious crime which it appears only murder is serious enough.


        • maxincony says:

          Thoughtful, EU prisoners can be transferred to prisons in their country of origin. This doesn’t apply to Romanians for the reasons I gave above.

          If now you are claiming that your post was about returning Romanian prisoners *after* they have served their sentence; then your assertion that “we could free up 4250 prison places”, makes even less sense than it did before.

          But by all means keep up that excellent pick and shovel work.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        I mentioned this to an East European friend and her reaction was to question how many of these were ‘real’ Romanians and how many were Gypsies from Romania, whom she did not consider to be ‘Romanian’ at all. I have found the same attitudes expressed by Bulgarians, too.


      • taffman says:

        Maxicony is a Biased Al Beeb troll – simples


    • DICK R says:

      What the BBC never tell you is most of them are actually gypsies who just happen to hold Romanian passports as the governments of East Europe seized the opportunity to rid themselves of a centuries old problem by issuing passports and pointing them west.
      The results can be seen in the piles of human excrement around Marble Arch and the gangs of aggressive beggars hanging around the cash points along Oxford street ,while the women and children go about their shoplifting expeditions.


  3. gaxvil says:

    Headline: ‘FEAR AMONG EU CITIZENS IN UK’ or some such hooey.
    German scientist in London University – Married to a Brit, here since 2009. Receives letter saying he should, ‘prepare to leave, application for citizenship rejected.’
    He’s hurt, offended, distraught and outraged! But he sent a photocopy of his German passport not the original as requested. Anyway, it’s now sorted BUT he’s still so, ‘hurt, offended, distraught and outraged’ he’s leaving the country.

    Interesting though – 3 million from the EU residing in the UK BUT only I million Brits residing in the whole 27 nations of Europe.


    • Grant says:

      If he is German , why would he want to be a British Subject ? That is very unusual.


    • Oaknash says:

      Probably because of me Gaxvil – Someone must have told him!

      I freely admit I am stocking up on millions of glass coca cola bottles so I can make millions of molotov cocktails so I can target all foreign businesses straight after brexit. I will start with Audi and Lidl then also take out any chip shops selling frankfurters next to proper patriotic “British” Fish and chips!

      As for VW drivers they better watch out too I have mobilised the “The Aryan Anglo Peoples Liberation front” to throw english bricks at any VW that dares to overtake any British cars. Once we have destroyed all VW s on UK roads we will move onto french cars, I will personally set my sons Peugeot on fire to be quickly followed by my wives car (she does not know this yet so please keep it to yourself).

      My “Peoples army ” will then move into the high street beating up anyone who has a german name or who is in a pub drinking trendy german lagers rather than Spitfire bitter. Also anyone ordering “french fries” in a pub may also feel the blunt end of my shillelagh!

      I must say if it hadnt been for brexit I would never have thought of doing all this stuff – Makes me feel all all brave and patriotic and ready to get the ball rolling on the “Far right backlash” This is not hate crime just real “British Patriots” justice!

      I just hope an EU citizens reading this know we mean business. This is not fake news. Even now as we speak I am polishing my shiny black bovver boots with union jack laces.

      Anyone interested in joining me please send your membership fees to

      Grand Wizard Oaknash
      Racial Purity Towers
      English Patriot Crescent
      Lesser Piddlington on the Wold
      Little England.

      Please keep this to yourselves I dont want the BBC knowing and doing an “expose” on my secret plans as we have to be organised for my right wing patriots revolution to succeed!

      Thanks Oaknash


      • Deborah says:

        I have just read a comment on the Daily Mail web site following an article about ‘how to make perfect scrambled eggs’. I know, I know, I should have better things to do with my time. But the comment was how the cost of eggs has gone up significantly since Brexit, and only due to Brexit, and the DM should give recipes for cheap meals which are the only thing the commentator could afford because of Brexit. I know this was utter rubbish – but does she really believe this rubbish and what part has the BBC to play in her believing this utter rubbish? PS eggs in my local shop are still £1.10 per half dozen – so still under 40p per portion for protein by my reckoning and still good value.


    • Restroom Mole says:

      Can someone explain what is an “EU citizen”? If it is someone who is a citizen of one of the countries that are still stuck in the EU, then it appears I am such a thing.
      I hope my rights will be protected after Brexit.
      Just kidding.
      I suggest these foreigners who have come here because they have a better life than they had in their native country have a simple choice put to them when Brexit finally happens.
      1 – leave Britain and dwell in one of the poor be-knighted places that remain in the EU.
      2 – prove their worth and commitment to this country and apply for British citizenship.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Looks like a fabricated piece. Anyone who has resided in Britain for 5 years can apply for citizenship and is automatically granted in most cases, especially for those from EU countries. I suspect a German was chosen for the article because, well, they are just like us aren’t they and the average Brit wouldn’t have quite the same sympathy towards, say, Romanians, Latvians, Lithuanians etc nudge nudge.


  4. StewGreen says:

    R4 8:30 Detoxifying France’s National Front
    Has Front National leader Marine Le Pen really detoxified the party founded by her father 40 years ago?
    with Prof Anand Menon
    Le Pen has banished the name of the party and even her own surname from election posters and leaflets.
    Her party is making inroads into socialist and communist fiefdoms in northern and eastern France.
    she speaks up loudly for the have-nots, people who live in the land she calls “the forgotten France.”
    She targets trade unionists, teachers and gay voters.
    with Prof Anand Menon


  5. StewGreen says:

    “Radio Metro-Clique” broadcast over Radio 4
    On now 8pm is Part II of Consent – A London Bubbleworld prog with Helena Kennedy

    Tuesday 11am :
    Can the Centre Hold? Mary Ann Sieghart asks what the future holds for the political centre
    3pm Costing the Earth : Trump’s Big Sell Off
    America’s Wild West- and its Mild East- Tom Sulky Heap worries that Trump will sell off Nation Park land etc. (yes well you can frack an entire national park from the pad size of a tennis court and no one would notice after set up)
    8pm – Councils in Crisis

    Thu 8:30pm Migrant Entrepreneurs with Evan ‘Right On’ Davis


    • StewGreen says:

      The one counter is
      Tuesday 9am, 9:30pm The Long View
      Year 1144 Fake News “the Jews killed a Christian child, William of Norwich”


    • Tom_Kenny says:

      I listened to ‘Can the Centre Hold?’ earlier today. I had my hands in the kitchen sink at the time so couldn’t switch it off.

      The rise of “populist” parties was discussed as if it were self-evidently a bad thing.

      R4 is also breathlessly plugging a forthcoming programme about pop music and gender-bending. Rather old hat by now, I would have thought.


  6. nogginator says:

    No BBC – ladies weightlifting

    “Laura Hubbard, 39, won the women’s over 90kg division at the Melbourne event, setting four unofficial national records in the process.
    Hubbard lifted a combined total of 268kg a full 19kg better than silver medallist Iuniarra Sipaia of Samoa.”
    19 kgs wow!
    But But … that s a man … man!”

    Mind you this is a little boy?


    • Guest Who says:

      At least slim chance of… her becoming an old mother.


    • Scronker says:

      Laura looks like a man, is built like a man, and is a man. I am getting really pissed off with these people being referred to in the media as ‘she’ or ‘her’ when they are MEN. Why are feminists not up in arms when athletes of their gender are being cheated out of their rightful places as winners in sport by men posing as women? Don’t offend transgenders, its not PC!


    • RJ says:

      “No BBC – ladies weightlifting”

      If they reported on pelvic powerlifting I might start watching BBC sport again.


  7. nogginator says:

    Obama – Resolution 2334:betrayal of Israel supports Palestinian jihad, In final hours in office, sent $221,000,000 to the “Palestinians” which funds anti Jew terror
    Trump – Trump’s UN envoy: Israel will ‘never again’ question US support, at the UNHRC
    “The UNHRC, which includes member countries cited for mass human rights abuses, is poised on Monday to adopt at least five anti-Israel resolutions, prompting outrage in the Trump administration over what officials described as the council’s unjust bias against the Jewish state.
    The action on these items has prompted the Trump administration to boycott the council and refuse to attend the Monday meeting, according to administration officials apprised of the situation who spoke with the Free Beacon.
    The boycott comes on the heels of the resignation of a Jordanian U.N. official who had sought to advance an anti-Israel agenda opposed by the United States and other nations.
    Trump administration officials said the increased pressure on the U.N. is part of a larger effort by U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley to significantly reform the international organization and root out those who use it as a platform to push anti-Israel initiatives”.


  8. Guest Who says:

    This seems significant:


  9. Dover Sentry says:

    Not covered by the BBC.

    In 1953, we Brits let Germany off from paying millions of pounds in war debt. In 1953, Britain was a country financially broken by standing up to Germany in WW2.
    And the EU now suggests charging us to leave?


    • Al Shubtill says:

      “Britain simply failed to understand the depth and durability of the resentment held against us by the Germans and the French. By the Germans for the obvious reason that we defeated them; by the French for the less obvious but still more potent reason that we did not share in their defeat.”

      J. Enoch Powell.

      And the Remainiscum think we’re going to get a “good deal” from these [email protected]?


      • maxincony says:

        “And the Remainiscum think we’re going to get a “good deal” from these [email protected]?”

        You seem to be a little bit confused Al. It’s the Brexiscum who’ve been repeatedly saying we’ll get a “good deal” – “They need us more than we need them” etc.

        The Remainiscum were saying we’ll get a “bad deal” throughout the referendum campaign.


        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          Remain supporters said we’ll get a bad deal before the referendum.
          Remain supporters said we’ll get a bad deal after the referendum.
          Remain supporters will keep saying we got a bad deal even if we get the best deal imaginable!

          Remain supporters will keep saying saying stupid things until the cows come home.

          So I say moo to you, young lady.


      • Iain Muir says:

        If we’ve got any sense, we won’t be “given” a good deal, we’ll just take one. The EU is falling apart; their bargaining position is poor.

        Time for some Thatcher forcefulness.


  10. Guest Who says:

    And as bed beckons, the latest gem from BBC Newsbeat…

    “There’s been Kami with HIV, Mahboub, who’s Arab-Israeli – and the possibly gay couple Bert & Ernie…”

    They know what kids like.


  11. Dover Sentry says:

    A German friend was over here for the weekend with his son.
    Both were amazed as to how busy the pubs and restaurants were post-Brexit. He said that back home the bars were empty. This had not been the case a few years ago in Germany.

    Not an exact analysis of the German economy of course.

    Perhaps we don’t all appreciate that the UK economy is doing rather well. (BBC take note!).


  12. Dover Sentry says:

    Please sign:

    Everyone in the UK must have a vote on who is elected Mayor of London.

    Sadiq Kahn has been getting involved in foreign political matters and policies that affect not just London but the rest of the UK. If any Mayor of London can meddle (Unchecked) in political activities that affect the whole of the UK, then the whole of the UK should have a say in who is Mayor.


    • Restroom Mole says:


      Apparently he favours London becoming a city state which will remain in the EU because a majority of Londoners voted Remain.
      I have never voted for my MP or his predecessor from the same party. Does Mr K. agree that I should disown him and treat the unsuccessful candidates for whom I voted as my MP?


    • Restroom Mole says:


      Signed, thanks for publicising it.


    • CatsRule says:

      Have signed. We should not have created the office of mayor in the first place.


  13. Dover Sentry says:

    Interesting times ahead, gentlemen.

    Lord Farage has a few comments here from today:

    Farage has been very deeply snubbed by the BBC.

    Farage has alone transformed our nation for the better.

    The BBC has alone tried it’s hardest to destroy our nation. And continues to do so at our expense.


  14. Brett says:

    Relax everyone, according to the bbbc, martin mcguinnes was “radicalised by discrimination”. Unbeleivable.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Hmm. I wonder if any of those brave boys from Luton, Bradford, Dewsbury, Tower Hamlets etc… who also have been “radicalised by discrimination”… could go on to become great, peace loving politicians? Today’s jihadists become tomorrow’s statesmen? You don’t think this is what the BBC really mean? No. Surely not.

      But let us have compassion. This is a dark day for the BBC, to lose a poster boy. One lucky enough to have died of natural causes rather than the hangman’s noose, which some would have thought a more appropriate ending.


  15. Chilleden says:

    With the Trump Russia stuff I think of a stand-up who tries some material which just is not getting a good response; but instead of just moving on, he keeps doing it to death until the audience is bored and not listening anymore. It just does not even ring true to me; the best lies are believable and this just is not. That they ran and ran with the embarrassingly spurious pissgate affair shows you what a weak story it is.

    I loved Trump’s instant and brutal rebuttal of that story.

    “I am a germaphobe, of course I would not do that.”

    BOOM! You can’t stump the Trump.


  16. Iain Muir says:

    Why has the death of that vile murdering bastard received more attention that Vera Lynn’s 100th birthday? No comparison, IMO.

    Rot in Hell.


    • seismicboy says:

      Thanks to Sky News there is a new entry in the Politically Correct dictionary. Apparently ‘murder’ can now be called ‘controversial politics’


      • Guest Who says:

        The designation ‘MDK’ from ‘Demolition Man’ is now a bit of a mouthful.



  17. Guest Who says:

    Again, Newsnight shows why it speaks at the nation:

    And thanks to interactivity not overseen by BBC drones, the nation speaks back.


  18. AsISeeIt says:

    SNP strategy is one of extortion against the English taxpayer.

    As an established political party – with all the benefits of MSP/MEP/MP salaries, the advantages presented by lobbying groups, rather flexible working hours and all the generous expenses – their motivation is to uphold the status quo they enjoy.

    Therefore both Brexit and any actual fiscal independence for Scotland are equally an anathema to the SNP.

    So Nicola Sturgeon will endlessly moan and cry about independence – but her wish is only for the IDEA of another referendum in Scotland. Because she believes the Westminster establishment fears this gun-to-the-head of the Union the IDEA alone will bring concessions in the form of a maintained and perhaps even an enhanced Barnett formula. So ensuring the SNP can continue to party it up at Hollyrood.

    The only way to stop such bullying is for the UK government to call the bluff of the SNP and hold this second-in-a-generation referendum tout suite and flush out Sturgeon and her clan.

    Of course the BBC is uniquely unable to discuss the truth of the situation – because of its Lefty-liberal metro-elite nature coupled with its grandiose corporate instincts it loves the EU and hates Brexit and shares this fear of losing 8% of Licence Payers. It is also weak-kneed when faced with left-SNP protest at BBC ‘Englishness’ (as if!)


  19. MartinW says:

    In its threnody to their beloved Martin McGuiness, the Today programme news describes him as, quote, “believed to have been a senior commander in the IRA”. No, BBC News Editors – he WAS a senior commander. In my opinion, he was the man ultimately responsible for ‘bloody Sunday’ and numerous murders and terrorist incidents over many years. However, in the latter part of his life, I believe he was a changed man and certainly contributed to peace. He may also have very significantly helped the security services, though this will never be acknowledged.


    • Northern Dreamer says:

      McGuiness death – all we are hearing is the politicians appreciation of him. Where are the soldiers with their legs blown off? Where are the widows? Where are the orphans? Where are the mentally scarred? Alistair Campbell even reveals in his last consevations with McGuiness he was worried about brexit!!!
      Why doesn’t the bBBC just go ahead and make him a Saint.
      I say ‘Ding Dong, the wicked………………..’


      • gaxvil says:

        The IRA achieved what exactly?
        McGuiness took part in the process to end the horror that his kind had begun.


      • Lobster says:

        On 21st November 1974 I lost a good friend in the Birmingham pub bombings. So tonight, I shall be raising a glass in celebration of the fact that the evil bastard is finally dead.


        • gaxvil says:

          Yes, I knew survivors and soldiers and saw the results of ‘freedom loving’ torture so I do hope McGuiness is meeting up with some of them right about ……. now.


      • Banania says:

        And where are the corpses that were hidden so that the tortures they had suffered before death should not be revealed? Such a pity he was not killed “in action” while he was still a “serving officer” of the IRA “staff”.


    • Banania says:

      And where are the corpses that were hidden so that the tortures they had suffered before death should not be revealed? Such a pity he was not killed “in action” while he was still a “serving officer” of the IRA “staff”.


    • Expat John says:

      Yes, he was an IRA commander, and a senior one.

      His death means we can no longer wire the bastard into the electricity supply and ask him:
      Why were you seen carrying an automatic weapon into the flats overlooking what became the so-called “Bloody Sunday” march?
      Why is it clear from the available recordings that the first shots heard on that day bear no relation to the sound of any weapons then in use by British forces?
      Why do so many soldiers, with considerable combat experience, continue to insist that they came under fire?

      Maybe he changed in later life – in which case he could at least have told us where the bodies were.
      Remember Birmingham, Manchester, Hyde Park, Enniskillen, Mountbatten, Warren Point.

      Rot in Hell.


  20. Englands Dreaming says:

    BBC website coverage of the first French Presidential debate:

    Start with a photo showing Marie Le Pen looking like she is being snubbed by the other candidates, TICK.

    Say preferred candidate Emmanuel Macron was the best, TICK

    Now I didnt watch the debate and even if I did I wouldn’t be able to get around the language barrier. But it is interesting to see what others say. Under the FTs report, which is open to comments unlike the Beebs

    for example

    ds1552 3 hours ago
    @Good European Ah yes. I just read the BBC’s Hugh Schofield’s account of the debate. Way off the mark, and not for the first time.


    • embolden says:

      Going Postal blog had a link to the French presidential debate, it was carried on France 24 English service with a simultaneous translation. I guess it will be on you tube or some other catch up channel.

      I didn’t have time to watch all of it but I loved her introduction…”I want to the President of the French Republic, I do not want to be Angela Merkels vice Chancellor”


  21. G says:

    “BBC risks undermining Brexit and damaging UK with ‘pessimistic and skewed’ coverage, 70 MPs warn” – Well, who would have believed it!! –
    The BBC’s response in summary on the Today programme earlier? No, No, No, the MP’s have got it wrong. Not only that, its only 70………….
    The analogy, ‘plank’ and ‘splinter’ springs to mind.


  22. G.W.F. says:

    And now for a word on intersectionalism. By obvious pre-arrangement Dimbletrot enables a transgendered freak to raise the subject in response to a question on Scottish Independence. The BBC may have thought of it as a stunt to put white male English in their boxes, but it fell flat and Dimbletrot had to move on


  23. StewGreen says:

    “Yeh it’s really start to kick in now”
    R5 Now being totally moderate about the new 2.3% inflation figs


  24. StewGreen says:

    R4 Long View on FakeNews was disappointing
    Yes invites Buzzfeed bloke on to sneer against Breitbart
    ..without the Breitbart guys being invited on to counter
    There must have been lines of concrete mixers outside the BBC this morning
    to supply the binding in this prog full of narrtive construction.

    Buzzfeed’s guy said “There’s this internet site BritainFirst it’s got 1.4m members ..that’s more than the Labour Party, more than any Party in the UK”
    ..Hmm not sure I believe his 1.4m fig
    and what’s the missing CONTEXT NOTE ?
    ..Well a political party is limited to the UK, a website can have members from the other 99% of the world as well.


  25. Grant says:

    Wonderful news that the evil bastard McGuinness is dead. May he rot in hell. Shame the British Army didn’t kill the cnut years ago. May have saved a few lives. Needless to say, he was a hero to the vermin at the BBC.


  26. gaxvil says:

    “Electronic Devices Banned on Flights to US from 13 Countries After Intel Threat”

    A clear case of electronic-ophobia and I’m sure at least some of the 13 are Muslim.
    Let’s hope the courts block it!


  27. StewGreen says:

    “Another day of bias journalism by taxpayer funded @BBCRadio4 @bbc5live : anti-Assad, anti-Brexit, anti-Trump, anti-Le Pen… c’est la vie!”


  28. StewGreen says:

    It must be about 5 minutes since the last Trans prog
    on your virtue signalling BBC
    11:30 radio 4 there’s this about rock & trans


  29. StewGreen says:

    9:30 R4 has this prog where they put words into the mouths of dead people
    Fake interviews with the dead…today was Mary Whitehouse
    ..isn’t that bad taste.


  30. StewGreen says:



  31. gaxvil says:

    Why do they continue to indulge those who put themselves outside acceptable, human and societal standards. Whether it’s criminals, terrorists or Kim Jong Un?


  32. StewGreen says:

    Must be true cos it was in the Washington Post


  33. nogginator says:

    Victoria Derbyshire – 21/03/2017

    The Al BBCs daily dose of VD, sinks to the lowest gutter possible.
    by getting itself in as a voyeur on the traumatic therapy sessions for the victims (and their families) of the Islamic child gang rapists in Rotherham.

    Drearybyshire announces at least 1400(minimize, minimize) victims, of erm “mainly Pakistani men”
    … why is a salient piece of information missing VD?

    She then trumpets that the BBC Asian Network,(shakes head) had an exclusive.
    Exclusive access, to the victims therapy sessions,(beyond belief!)
    They then send an “Asian” reporter to get that access in on the session, to ask the parents and victim about it.

    They then flip to an Kebab shop to hear about how they are escorting children home? … because they know predatory eyes are watching them (still rampant then).

    And … speak to a traumatised girl, raped multiple times by an Islamic gang who was pregnant by 12 and the paedophile’s are all now out, her family say she cannot bare to go into Rotherham through anxiety.

    These are Islamic child rape gangs, from towns and cities all over the UK, estimated a million victims. Omitted by the BBC
    They do not have the decency, to be sensitive to the victims or the families.





    • nogginator says:

      BBC Report on the Islamic child rape gangs victims in Rotherham, with a very strange BBC photo insert
      “Don t forget the dads, we love our kids too”
      Its the BBC so of course no mention of Islam, save for one small line at the end of the report which mentions religion,
      “What we have got to do from now on is put that to one side and look out for everybody’s children, not just pick on a specific base or religion”.

      BBC – My daughter’s sexual abuse left me feeling like ‘a zombie’


    • Lucy Pevensey says:


      Good post. Completely agreed, I was fuming watching that this morning! I had to put the sound down eventually as I couldn’t stand it.
      It does leave one feeling rather helpless when there is nothing we can do to make this behemoth accountable. Their complaints procedure leads us nowhere as they always have the last word & are dismissive of grievances.

      I would like to know where are the lawyers? Why is there no Gina Miller ready to take on the BBC on behalf of the people they insult daily? Grrrrr!


  34. quisquose says:

    What we saw was the director of the FBI and the head of the National Security Agency, two of the biggest figures in American security and intelligence, directly contradicting the President of the United States in public on two matters. First on the matter of the investigation into connections between officials and associations of the Trump campaign and the Russians during the campaign, and secondly on the tweet, famous tweet now, sent out by the president saying that he believed that President Obama had somehow put surveillance on Trump Tower in New York. Well they said on the first one that they ARE investigating associates and Russia, and secondly they said on the question of surveillance that they had no evidence. These are extraordinary claims, because they are taking on the President directly. We haven’t seen that in living memory.

    What we saw was the director of the FBI and the head of the National Security Agency, two of the biggest figures in American security and intelligence, unable to provide any evidence to directly contradict the President of the United States. First on the matter of the investigation into connections between officials and associations of the Trump campaign and the Russians during the campaign, and secondly on the tweet sent out by the president saying that he believed that President Obama had approved surveillance on Trump Tower in New York. Well they said on the first one that they are investigating connections between Russia and associates connected with both Trump and Clinton, but they have NO evidence of any connections. The real concern of course is that this has been leaked to the press in a manner to create harm against the President. Secondly they said on the question of surveillance that they had no evidence, but the repeated denial of a ‘physical wiretap’ does not convince. So expect this story to continue.

    Read those two paragraphs. They represent perfectly how somebody in the media might want to portray yesterday’s House Intelligence Committee hearing depending on their political leanings. The first paragraph is exactly what one would expect from a left-wing media organisation, and the second is exactly what one expect from a right-wing media organisation. Similar examples of both can be found.

    I doubt many here will be surprised when I say that the first paragraph is a direct transcript of the words spoken by James Naughtie at 6:10 this morning on Radio 4. There was no nuance, in fact it was delivered in a sneering manner. It belies the claim that the BBC is impartial.


  35. Tabs says:

    I complained to the BBC about this article on the 12th match

    Muslim detective Nighat Hubbard sues Met over racism and sexism

    I complained that the BBC is biased as they only mention a person is a Muslim when they are a victim or to promote Islam like the Bake Off winner. In this case her religion was irrelevant as she is suing for racism and sexism. The BBC never mention religion when they report terrorism or child sex rings or anything that will show Islam in a bad light.

    I challenged the BBC to provide me with a list of their articles where a criminal is labelled a Muslim rather than provide me with a reply showing their usual contempt for the TV license payer.

    Unfortunately the BBC replied with their usual contempt for the TV license payer and even their reply is promoting the great Islam whilst ignoring my complaint of their bias…

    I understand you were unhappy with the headline for the report entitled ‘Muslim detective Nighat Hubbard sues Met over racism and sexism’ and note you felt it was irrelevant for it to make reference to Det Con Hubbard’s faith.

    We are conscious of the need for headlines to be worded carefully so as not to mislead readers or give the wrong impression about a story. This is frequently a very difficult decision for our editors and we appreciate that not all readers will feel we get it right on every occasion.

    However, we do not believe that it was inappropriate to refer to Det Con Hubbard as a Muslim detective. As it states in the report, she first gained attention in 2014 when she became the first Muslim policewoman in Britain to be honoured by the Queen.

    It is worth noting too that a number of other media outlets also referred to Det Con Hubbard’s faith in their headlines for this particular story (please note that the BBC is not responsible for the content of external websites):

    blah blah Kid Regards


    • Restroom Mole says:


      It’s a waste of time arguing with people whose position is derived from their faith rather than rationality.

      The BBBC’s reply commits the same error by again mentioning this copper’s faith: “As it states in the report, she first gained attention in 2014 when she became the first Muslim policewoman in Britain to be honoured by the Queen.”

      They just don’t (can’t ) see what they are doing is wrong in any way.

      If only she was the last Muslim policewoman to be honoured by the Queen…


  36. StewGreen says:

    They just did again
    Whilst polishing their “Look at me I’m super tolerant” badge, they said something really intolerant
    (talking about a possible Wilders victory) ..”We can’t have this ! in a country that’s so tolerant”

    That was right near the start of the R4 11:00 prog which was a 30 min party political announcement for the Liberal Party
    ..building huge false narrative throughout.

    By pretending Wilders was set for a huge victory they somehow make his seat GAINS and the gov seat LOSSES and an 75% loss in vote for the Labour Party seem a defeat for Wilders.


    • StewGreen says:

      That R4 show minute 3
      “Do we really want this ? Also in Europe, In the Netherlands ?
      In our country so tolerant ?
      No ! We don’t want that kind of popularist polices, we want reason”

      Narrative = We won’t tolerate popularism.
      Segways into Tony Blair telling us he is a politician of the centre.


    • StewGreen says:

      Looks like they paid for a full page News-vert in the Times
      “Liberals could cause a political earthuake”
      runs the headline

      The above BBC prog also tried to claim that the SNP is really a liberal party.


  37. StewGreen says:

    “Compare the reverence shown to Martin McGuinness by the BBC
    with, for example, their sneering hatred for Nigel Farage.
    .. No tolerance there?”


  38. Charlie Martel says:

    Is it just me or is it difficult to find the bbc coverage of the MPs accusation of Brexit bias, on their website? Have they buried it nice and deep?


  39. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Is this right?

    I’ve just heard that Arsenal are lining up George Osborne for manager should Arsenal Wenger leave at the end of the season.


  40. Charlie Martel says:

    “Tory MP Julian Knight, who co-ordinated the letter, warned that the BBC was in danger of losing touch with its viewers and giving too much airtime to ‘diehard Remainers’.”

    IN DANGER OF??? That’s the understatement of the year. It HAS lost touch with its viewers. It despises all 17 million Brexiters and they return the compliment. Slay the beast now!

    Read more:
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    • Doublethinker says:

      The BBC will just ignore any and all criticism no matter where it comes from. But note todays fully justified criticism re the BBCs overtly pro Remain Brexit coverage comes not from the government but from backbenchers. The appallingly biased coverage of the BBC had handed the government the very best opportunity to clip the wings of the disgusting corporation. After all the BBC is routinely insulting a majority of those who are forced to pay for it. Public support for the BBC is probably at an all time low. This is the time for the government to do something that the public will support.


  41. StewGreen says:

    So Nick Robinson‏ How’s your defend the BBC tweeting going ?
    Look at the comments under his post


  42. StewGreen says:

    Poll BBC is the CNN of Britain


    • quisquose says:

      Okay, so the votes for Yes are 98% … but the comparison is meaningless.

      I don’t care if CNN, or most every other media organisation, leans this way or that way. The BBC is different, it takes our money using threats of imprisonment, and promises to be impartial.

      The fact that the BBC is NOT impartial is an obscene betrayal.


    • RJ says:

      “Poll BBC is the CNN of Britain”.

      I wouldn’t rate the BBC that highly. CNN campaigned for Clinton’s vision of the USA’s future. The BBC campaignes for Britain not to have a future. It’s left the swamp and is now in the sewer.


  43. StewGreen says:

    Education Minister Jo Johnson tells Universities they must protect freedom of speech
    argues for Free speech over extension of safe spaces to intellectual sphere


    • embolden says:

      Sorry, reported in error.

      I`d be more impressed if Jo Johnson spelt out the sanctions that will be imposed on Universities who fail to protect freedom of speech…reductions in taxpayer funding and legally binding measures to prevent access to foreign funding would be a start.


  44. JimS says:

    This is what happens when you complain to the BBC.

    BBC Trust defends Corporation’s Harlow ‘race hate’ sensationalism

    “But this last-gasp ruling underlines yet again that BBC journalism exists in its own bubble, and the Complaints Unit does nothing to prick it; if anything the reverse. The Corporation reports on its terms, no matter how inflammatory or at odds with the facts and common sense its output is.

    The blunt truth is that the Sandford report of Mr Jóźwik’s killing grossly and irresponsibly exaggerated the race-hate dimension and must be seen in the overall context of the BBC’s determined desire to undermine the referendum result.”


    • quisquose says:

      How the BBC can defend the way they ran that story tells us all we need to know.

      Their reporting should be considered in the context of Brexit, and their desire to undermine it with negativity. But this reporting was even worse in that it actually stoked racial tensions that didn’t exist.

      If I was to ask any of my colleagues now about the Polish chap that was murdered in Harlow, most if not all of them would still be of the opinion that this was a racial hate crime committed because of, or in the wake of Brexit. It has the effect of cowering and silencing genuine nice people, whilst empowering real racists that want to create divisions.

      Unfortunately I suspect the BBC has become an organisation that actually relishes in creating divisions.


    • Restroom Mole says:


      A cynical (intelligent) person might think that the BBBC wanted to stir up racial tension instead of promoting cohesion and harmony.

      Sorry Quisquose, your eloquent comment beat me to it.


  45. StewGreen says:

    Another one of those white supremacist terrorists
    ‘Cufflink’ terrorist Samata Ullah admits IS charges
    It’s BBC local news


  46. Sluff says:

    A propos the welcome main story in the D Mail today about the bBBC’s flagrant and ill concealed anti Brexit narrative aka propoganda aka indoctrination.
    To be fair, they did actually cover this story on Toady R4 this morning. But guess what? They could not get any official from the BBC hierarchy to come and speak on the programme !!!!!! “No-one was available”. I wonder why not?
    I doubt if the entitled lot in the DG’s inner circle are cacking their pants over this but it makes my day to think that they might be.
    Meanwhile, on the bBBC news front page, it does not warrant a mention at all, unlike the obviously more important “Sir Elton’s surprise call to video teen”


  47. StewGreen says:

    Sky possibly doing some proper journalism.
    Times TV guide recommends Primodos doco, Wednesday at 9pm Sky News
    Primodos 1970’s pregnancy test “the hidden Thalidomide”
    (also tonight 8pm Sky Atlantic)


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