David Dimbleby presents this week’s show from Brighton. The BBC is being coy again, like a blushing virginal bride, about tonight’s guests. So it is another mystery panel. How exciting.
Kick off tonight at 22.45
The normal chat site is not working for reasons unknown. Here is an alternative which I found after a quick search
https://chatstep.com/#QTChat
Brighton? So the audience will be full of “right-wing, swivel-eyed, waycist Brexiteers” then. Or perhaps not ……
The “B” is a silent letter.
Chat is not working
Can’t get on either
Plus one – and Chat on is rubbish.
Sorry Chatstep
Another whitewash echo chamber discussion with no member of the panel or audience willing to identify the horrors that were endured under Saddam Hussein’s fascist regime. It was a regime that was so centralised and evil, that it played itself up to sadistic rituals of torture and rape of any person that committed the fake crimes of the state; mostly centred on torturing and brutally murdering the friends and families of anyone that disrespecting and/or attempted to criticise the regime’s dear leader. A regime that demanded total respect of its leader, murdering anyone that tried to leave it, enslaving those under it, and chemically murdering those it disliked in the droves: does any of this sound familiar? What if I referred to a certain religious ideology that has been prominent in the region since the 7th Century? A theocratic state owned by a mob-style fascist king with his own palace for every region whilst the entire environment starved to death out of burning oil and perpetual internal warfare to keep the masses busy; all of-which is very reminiscent of a sick and twisted combination of Sharia society mixed with George Orwell’s worst nightmare.
I think the people of Iraq would rather live dangerously free than to live in constant terror and misery just to avoid terrorism. Terrorism has existed before and after regardless of regime-change. That’s the way Islam works; perpetual civil-war, and if the civil war ends, it pursues murderous campaigns against non-Muslims and apostates.
If the late Christopher Hitchens were on this panel tonight, the entire floor would be wiped clean of every argument currently standing on its pseudo-intellectual wobbly heads.
Terrible things have happened to the people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria prior to invasion by the west. However these invasions don’t seem to have solved anything for the vast majority of the people. These countries are in a much worse state now than before, its achieved very little other than create a hell for those living in these places and now has created the migrant crisis that rages across Europe that’s having a severe impact on the indigenous population.
Terrible things are happening in Zimbabwe under the despotic regime of Mugabe, persecution and killing of white farmers and businessmen, raging inflation, sectarian killings, starvation and killing of his own people who disagree with him. Similar terrible things are happening in many southern and central African countries where despotic leaders rule with impunity. The west don’t seem to want to get involved in these places except look the other way and only send aid, which often ends up in the despots pockets.
A very interesting viewpoint, JJJA.
JJJA: “I think the people of Iraq would rather live dangerously free than to live in constant terror and misery just to avoid terrorism. Terrorism has existed before and after regardless of regime-change. That’s the way Islam works; perpetual civil-war, and if the civil war ends, it pursues murderous campaigns against non-Muslims and apostates.”
There appears to be a contradiction above. Saddam, nasty though he was as a hard-line dictator, kept the vast majority of Iraqi’s free from “the way Islam works; perpetual civil-war, and if the civil war ends, it pursues murderous campaigns against non-Muslims and apostates.” They were able to live in peace, northern Kurds and Marsh Arabs notwithstanding.
By his removal, the Western Alliance created the conditions where everyone in Iraq has become vulnerable, no one is at peace.
The nastiest regime in western Europe, the GDR, was ‘beneficial’ for the vast majority of the population who worked out ways of surviving under the regime or even subverting it without being caught. It was eventually brought down from within as, I suspect, Saddam’s regime would have been either in time or by his natural death.
You appear to be suggesting that certain powers – US, UK, EU (good luck with that last one) should dash around the globe and remove anyone in power as Head of State or leader of Government who puts a critic behind bars, lets secret police do what they want with troublemakers and subversives and lets loose Party thugs to be up political opponents or even starves its population while favouring its own elite. Would you really want the USA to go to war now against North Korea?
Be clear on this, I am no apologist for the Saddams, Gaddafis and Mugabes of this world but, international law apart, it is very important to be careful how and when nations interfere militarily in other sovereign states and to what end.
Do you see no difference between Gulf 1 (motive to liberate Kuwait) and Gulf 2 (motives uncertain) at all?
“Storming Norman” – Gulf 1, was interviewed on BBC .
His quote was that “we” stopped before going into Baghdad because if we had have done “We would have ended up thrashing around like a dinosaur in a tar pit”
Very prescient.
‘I think the people of Iraq would rather live dangerously free than to live in constant terror and misery just to avoid terrorism’
One of those unknowns that the BBC would speak for a nation about, finding only those who agreed with the narrative to come up with a national sentiment.
Probably the exact reverse of the above.
The crocodile appeasement logic is always dubious.
Like folk in Wales deciding to bite their lips if London decided to gas Glasgow in hope it would be all fine thereafter.
I can’t get on either. I reset the service just before the program started as I have done several times before, but the service doesn’t seem to be running.
Good try – never mind 🙂
I have set this up, seems straightforward enough
https://chatstep.com/#QTChat
Well, that was a pretty dismal QT, last match of the season and off to the beach for Dimbleby. See you in September David, unless as he says they are forced to reconvene in exceptional circumstances such as the Tory leadership battle. A panel comprising four liberals and George Galloway who got all the laughs. “John Major in a dress” as he referred to Theresa May. Actually he didn’t get all the laughs. Asinine comments from both Baroness Brinton and Lord Faulkner were met with laughter from a surprisingly insurgent audience, coming from Brighton and all. In fact that QT summed up where we are at the moment. A liberal “elite” who are derided by the public for pushing a narrative that simply doesn’t wash any more.
And to the young lady in the audience who said she believed that for the next election 16 and 17 yr olds should be allowed to vote. Well after this recent referendum I suggest we raise the voting age to 25.
“And to the young lady in the audience who said she believed that for the next election 16 and 17 yr olds should be allowed to vote”. Notice that no one applauded that stupid statement and I was surprised because I expected the usual rent a mob morons to do just that. Maybe there is hope.
Remind me who won the referendum vote …. so the BBC put four Remainers and one Brexiteer on the panel … normal biased service resumed then.
As for the bleating 16 and 17 year olds …. they demanded a vote on the referendum … so that they could support membership of an organisation that overwhelmingly doesn’t allow 16 and 17 year olds to vote. Not to mention that they would only vote the way the useless left wing ‘education’ establishment indoctrinate them to vote. Pretty much sums up why they shouldn’t ever be given the vote.
As for the patronizing Lib Dem President saying that Brexit voters didn’t understand what the were voting for and then showing her ignorance by saying that EU funding of University science projects had dried up and asking where the £350 million was for the NHS …when nothing has changed in our membership and won’t for months … words fail me.
My blooming blood pressure!
No wonder I rarely switch on to this blatantly biased broadcaster.
Tonight I switched on, online using my desktop PC, ready to watch Question Time. I caught the tail-end of the main BBC news, concerning the slaughter of a Muslim in Glasgow, who unfortunately was of a “diifferent” persuasion to the Muslims loved and revered by our National Broadcaster. After a very shallow report containing many dubious references to alternative views of Islam, it all ended with the comment from Hugh Edwards, “A very complex case.”
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To Mr. Hugh Edwards of the BBC! It was *NOT* a complex case at all. It was a simple case of murder and butchery committed by a follower of Islam who studied the Koran and then believed the Glasgow shopkeeper did not follow the “true prophet” and therefore must be murdered.
Complex? No!
Simple? Yes!
This was a murdering thug following the dictats of a murderous branch of his religion and this will go on and on and on, *UNTIL* it is challenged by our government *AND* our MSM.
Or alternatively, our government will continue to ignore these murderous invaders who import their sick and twisted “laws” into our land until one day the indigenous population of this country will get so absolutely fed up of it all that who knows just what might happen?
I imagine Tanveer Ahmed didn’t know that murder is illegal in the UK, he would just be doing what he was used to seeing in Pakistan. So that will be alright then. At least we know it has nothing to do with Islam, being a Muslim on Muslim attack.
Newsshite’s more in depth analysis of it was interesting – by a trendy looking asian guy – seen him before but can’t remember his name. He actually did look at the Pakistani links, and I’m sure ended by suggesting that maybe some mainstream Islam might have violent tendencies?? Or am I imagining that – not sure what angle the BBC were going for. Lone wolf?
HenryWood,
Well said. This needs repeating every time these inferior presenters at ther BBC massage such obvious crimes.
I watch QT on i player these days, turned it on, saw it was from Brighton, saw the lineup, turned it off.