325 Responses to WEEKEND OPEN THREAD….

  1. chrisH says:

    It`s the BBC godawful morality that gets me.
    Last Word had Howard Marks(Mr Nice…drug dealer and dope fiend as lionised by the liberal media) a few weeks ago,
    Yesterday it had another lowlife eulogised on the same show-this one basically robbed “vulnerable toff totty” and screwed over everybody he met-and whose wallet he was able to dip into…loads of names and aliases, which the shows talking head thought rather raffish…as if these dotty totties deserved it all.
    Funny that-doesn`t apply to the honest ones like Camerons dad, the dodgy ones like a Goodwin or any other banker-who deserve venom according to the Beeb, and certainly not any eulogies or nods/winks of being a scally-but a heart of gold nonetheless.
    Sick of it-as indeed I am over yet another pointless suicide of a fashion media star-Isabella Blow, Alexander McQueen and now one Sally Brampton( no, me neither-but she`ll be on Last Word very soon , no doubt).
    Why-it`s as if being famous and a media fashion horse(or horse trainer) isn`t all it`s cracked to be-certainly more suicides than most other “industries”.
    But no inquest-no wishes to ban THAT lethal service-nor will there be.
    “Richard Cory” needs a play-but we`ll never hear it with the Beautiful People running the BBC.
    No Nina Nana, no Rosie Millard or Gompertz laddies…still though-Donald Trump needs stopping, even though HE`S killed no-one yet…


  2. Sluff says:

    A different angle on this.
    The biased BBC’s consistent narrative over many years is that pharma companies are evil. After all, they make a profit out of the misery and misfortune of others, and how moral is that, they snidily suggest. Fancy not supplying the NHS at cost. Just look at all those free AIDS drugs they have been armtwisted to supply. Of course the BBC’s mindset to the private sector would shame Lenin.
    But in this case. What strange bedfellows. Pfizer are suddenly the bBBC’s best buddies for their principled stand on supplying lethal but legal drugs for legal executions.
    What a total load of utter hypocrisy comes out of our beloved state broadcaster.


    • Sluff says:

      ….but back to normal this morning (Mon). On Toady there is absolute consternation because the government is reducing the special budget for NICE unapproved cancer drugs and….OMG……. the pharma companies who researched, developed, and tested them (at their own expense of course – no pharma ‘licence fee’ for them) want to make a profit. Which of course in biased BBC land is totally not on. I mean, making a profit out of someone’s cancer. Surely they should be supplied free of charge on a charity basis……….


  3. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”The UK’s EU referendum: All you need to know””
    By Brian Wheeler & Alex Hunt BBC News

    “”What about businesses?””
    “”Big business – with a few exceptions – tends to be in favour of Britain staying in the EU because it makes it easier for them to move money, people and products around the world. BT chairman Sir Mike Rake, a recent CBI president, says there are “no credible alternatives” to staying in the EU””

    (Utter BBC lies. And the CBI and BBC have massive funding from the EU).


    The BBC slipped the above into a fairly neutral news feature. It’s a critical lie and typical of the BBC’s pro-Remain stance and tactics.

    The BBC, as the National Broadcaster, should be prosecuted for both deception and Treason.

    Upon the BBC’s inevitable criminal conviction, may I please pull the lever?


    • Guest Who says:

      When the BBC says ‘all you need to know’ it is time to head to the Internet to find out what the BBC don’t think you need to know.

      Because… editorial integrity.


  4. taffman says:

    Troll Patrol ……………..
    Where have all the Trolls gone ?

    They frequently change name to give the impression that there are more trolls posting on this site than actually are.


  5. JimS says:

    Midlands Today, the BBC’s local evening news in the West Midlands, on Friday headlined a story about the EU and the price of food. I was surprised that they would promote an anti-EU story like that.

    I needn’t have worried, when they got to the story they told us how EU farming subsidies kept the price of food down!

    This is an outright lie. We pay through our taxes to give the farmers greater rewards for what they produce, i.e. the price to us doesn’t go down, the reward to the farmer goes up and we pay the top up. The wonderful ‘single market’ erects a tariff barrier on food imported into the EU, so as to effectively raise the price to prevent competition from outside the EU.

    If we were outside the EU we could have a zero tariff on imported food, which would kick-start agriculture in Africa, raising living standards there and reducing the ‘need’ for migration. We would then benefit from cheaper food. We might choose to subsidise our farmers rather than inefficient French farmers if we wanted to maintain our agriculture.

    Indeed the point of the ‘single market’ is to lock us into a protected market of half a billion people and cut of from the other six and a half billion in the ‘free’ world.


    • Number 7 says:

      More to the point. We are subsidising, in a badly biased system, inefficient French farmers, non existent Greek olive groves and tobacco production and numerous other scams. At the price of our own food prices and the decimation of OUR farming industry.


  6. taffman says:

    Now what bias can we expect from this? …………….
    Irrespective of what they say , if you want your country run by a dictatorship vote to ‘remain in’.


  7. BRISSLES says:

    This should be an interesting programme to watch on the Beeb !!


    Also interesting to see the literally thousands of ‘agreeing’ ticks to the comments made Online.


  8. Deborahanother says:

    Notice its being shown at 10.45pm so as not to gather too many viewers and upset the referendum propaganda.Because its not just Asian incomers ,Eastern Europeans are all over the Borough and they don’t bother to speak English either.Their shops are every where and everything is written in Polish you are not welcome in those shops.

    Im sure the BEEB will be putting their own spin on it ,its all the whites fault for moving out, but I was born and lived most of my life in Newham and it is now like a foreign land .

    If you have young children you have to move out because the in comers apart from West Indians are not integrating and they don’t feel the need to because there are so many of them. Green Street ,which Newham Council treats like a jewel in its Crown ,is indeed like downtown Baghdad.

    My son also went to the local sixth form college ,like one of the guys in the Daily mail article and was the only white boy and in the end gave up because he could not make friends with the mainly Muslim students.He was socially isolated. It’s ironic that I brought up my kids to be welcoming and friendly to all and he had no problem with West Indians and African friends he went to school with and remains good friends with them.

    I would say 70,000 immigrants over 15 years is a huge understatement of fact and I’d like to know where the BEEB conjured up that figure from.If it was only 70,000 there wouldn’t be so much of a problem.Its way more than that.


    • BRISSLES says:

      ….but I was born and lived most of my life in Newham and it is now like a foreign land …..

      I wonder if the Queen’s response to that would be “oh, bad luck” !!!! (sorry, I couldn’t resist that !)


  9. Guest Who says:

    Well, lots more civil servants on the payroll at least. The BBC grinds on.


  10. TrueToo says:

    Since I’m outside the UK, there are only a few BBC programmes I can access on its website after the fact. One of them is ‘Any Questions,’ and I clicked on the latest example of the latter after being referred to it by my eminent colleagues on this site.

    I usually click on ‘mute’ when the Green’s Jenny Jones spouts her uninformed rubbish but I didn’t this time and was surprised to hear her express loathing of the EU.

    Liam Fox was good on Brexit, though disappointing when he joined the rest of the motley crew in not challenging the BBC. It was a good opportunity to point out the partiality in the BBC’s stance on the EU.

    Rachel Reeves regurgitated the standard left-wing nonsense on Donald Trump, proving that she knows nothing about him.

    Paddy Ashdown was unlistenable to, as always, and showed a lack of respect by arriving in a suit that looked like he’d slept in it. I guess he figured that since it was radio there would be no need to look decent and was surprised when the photo was taken:



    • scribblingscribe says:

      True Too, I agree with all you said.

      Liam Fox made a decent fist of arguing the case for brexit, especially before the howling, mindless mob the BBC buses in from the nearest Socialist Worker Remedial Classes unit. Where do the BBC find these people? I don’t meet them in every day life.

      Had to turn the radio off when the mob shrieked with delight at some idiotic put down of Brexit from the always disappointing Paddy Ashdown.

      You Shouldn’t be surprised at Jenny Jones’ view on leaving the EU. Most on the left agree with her. Jeremy Corbyn and, when he was around, Tony Blair led the left’s anger at the lack of democracy in the EU. Oddly the BBC never had time to broadcast this. Can’t think why.

      It is because the BBC has such a powerful voice, that we are often left thinking their views represent everyone on the left. They don’t. Hence why UKIP is hoovering up former labour voters.

      Rachel Reeves was once offered up as a future labour Party big hitter. Seems laughable now.


      • TrueToo says:

        scriblingscribe: Jeremy Corbyn and, when he was around, Tony Blair led the left’s anger at the lack of democracy in the EU.

        This is interesting. Not being a UK-ite I claim no extensive knowledge of the situation. Seems Corbyn was bludgeoned by Labour colleagues into changing his stance from Brexite to Remainian. Or perhaps he was simply nudged, since it doesn’t seem to take much to get him to abandon his principles.*

        But then surely this demonstrates that the majority of those MPs with influence in Labour are Remainians. Granted this does not necessarily follow re the general lefty population.

        Tony Blair? I thought he was deeply in love with the EU. I Saw something on YouTube, probably quite dated, which had him strongly defending the EU in a response to Nigel Farage’s attack on that monstrous bureaucracy.

        Anyway, I’m open to correction.

        *If, after he failed to sing the national anthem, he had been honest enough to admit his subversive distaste for his own country, at least he would have demonstrated the courage of his own convictions; instead, he came up with a mealy-mouthed ‘the dog ate my homework’ excuse.


  11. Guest Who says:

    Just heard on the radio that the government is to release an other leaflet on the EU Referendum; this time an ‘impartial’ guide on how to vote.

    Doubtless from the same strand on DNA the BBC uses for its editorial integrity.


    • TrueToo says:

      …this time an ‘impartial’ guide on how to vote.

      I’ll believe that when I see it!


  12. Dover Sentry says:

    Can anyone find the youtube link where an EU minister speaks of their wish to destroy national identity?

    Many thanks.


  13. Deborahanother says:

    I only clicked on Marrs programme briefly They were discussing the subject of the leaflet in the paper review.

    The aim is to get young people signed up because they realise older people like me will vote out.We have long memories.

    Good luck with that.The passion is on the leave side.

    My son has signed up for the first time in years to vote out. Not all young people are keen on the EU .Christine Legarde said house prices will fall. Most young people should think that’s a good thing.

    A break in mass immigration, less demand and a fall in house prices and higher wages .Whats not to like for the young.

    Christopher Hitchens has a good column in the Mail on both the BEEB and German expansionism under the EU guise and what might cause a war in Europe .Again apologies for not being able to link .I must find out how.


    • Soapbox says:

      I watched the AM show this morning and feel I have just been watching a poor episode of The One Show or even a Blue Peter-type children’s newsround! It gets worse every week.

      Julia Whatshername was good on the papers; the other 2 were dire. Andrea Leadsom spoke some sense and Mark I-know-it-all Carney desperately tried to justify his appalling intervention which was decidedly political, no matter what he said.


    • Al Shubtill says:

      I think it more likely to have been Peter than Christopher in the Mail.


  14. Antibeeb says:

    Absolutely shocking interview on Marr with Mark Carney regarding Brexit. Marr is asking leading questions that give Carney an opportunity to spread his message of doom, and Marr isn’t subjecting him to any journalistic rigour at all.


    • Fred Basset says:

      Carney should STFU. According to him interest rates should have gone up by now. It shows what he knows.


  15. Mr.Golightly says:

    Thanks BBC for this article on East Anglia in which you associate an intellectually challenged east-ender (Jade Goody) with the hardy yeomanry of the East Angles. Never one to miss an opportunity to sneer at us, I’m surprised the headline to this news item http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36130219 wasn’t “Socially challenged Alan Partridge and the many faces of East Anglia” or “Backward village idiots and the many faces of East Anglia”. Well stuff you BBC. You and your lot are not welcome round here anyhow. We don’t like you city types, coming up here with your fancy ways, buying up all our property, and putting on your parts. I’ve never met a man south of Diss who I would trust. Rum old buggers down there, and that’s where you can all stay.

    I’ve got a better headline. How about “Boudica, Queen of The Iceni gathers her army before her, moves south down the A12 sacking Colchester, Chelmsford and laying waste to Londinium and the BBC. And the many faces of East Anglia.”


    • Up2snuff says:

      Er, mentioning Boudica? Is that what they call in rugby getting their retaliation, er no, delete that, I mean ‘getting their history in early’, Mr.G, for 23 June?

      It really boils down to ‘being free of an Empire’. Kinda unfortunate that filming of a new Star Wars film is going on almost under our noses right now. Gather there is a return to the series theme: struggle for freedom from the control of an overbearing, evil Empire.


  16. Jeff says:

    There’s been a rather typical response from the Beeb regarding an article Boris Johnson has penned for today’s Telegraph. Boris, being a classical historian, gave a very long range view of what has happened in Europe back to the times of the Roman Empire. And he happened to mention that both Napoleon and Hitler had tried, unsuccessfully, to create a one state Europe. At no point in the piece did he write that the EU is like Hitler.
    It’s absolutely clear what he means but of of course those desperate and irritating Remainiacs like Yvette Cooper have to stick their oar in and fake outrage. I’m not at all surprised at Cooper and co manufacturing offence, I mean, what else does she do? What is sinister though is that the BBC run with the headline, “Boris likens EU to Hitler.”
    It’s nonsense! They know it, we know it and that appalling creature Yvette Cooper knows it.
    It really is too bad.


    • Englands Dreaming says:

      The moral case for Brexit is made in The Mail on Sunday by ex Archbishop Lord Carey. I particularly like his attack on the useless John Major for chastising people for talking about immigration.

      Zero chance of the Beeb interviewing Lord Carey I guess.


    • chrisH says:

      Boris is only using history to give us the arc of history that we are currently on.
      He`s done BBC shows on the Romans previously-just written a book on Churchill-and is an excellent classical scholar(unlike the festering Mary Beard and her shoes)-so normally they`d put Boris down as an media expert in the subject.
      But no-divided party, seeking power, doesn`t even share his ice cream with the poor etc…
      WHAT exactly is wrong with what he said-does the BBC want a united Europe just as Hitler did…does the EU want a united currency like Hitlers Reichsmark( called the euro, for a disguise…but it`s the Deutchmark to all intents and purposes)…do they want Green vegetarian animal rights, Jews under attack, attacks on Big Banks, nature worship, lots of sports and stadia as Hitelr did…do they want Socialism, only not confined to Berlin…a pink and lavender variant for minorities instead of the S.A?
      Course they do…The E.U are only doing what Hitler tried…and that Boris SAYS that is the hanging offence to the elite.
      Well done Boris-this one will NOT go away, because the % Presidents Report says that they DO want a Federal United Superstate as Hitler did-from the Baltic to the Iberian peninsula…so they`ll not get out of THAT one.
      Just glad he said it-first real blow to Boris and his corner.
      Round 1 finally won-knock the buggers out in five I`d say-the Remain scum seem very winded and wounded….at last!
      Just call them Nazis-same aim, different tin.


  17. Deborahanother says:

    But not bad because Boris can explain it and back it up in the historical perspective And he took the attention away from the other players, so that they are talking about him not the Remain propaganda for the day ,maybe a few days .Thats why he’s being attacked ,people are listening to him.A poll states he is more trusted than Cameron on the EU.

    I was thinking the other day Leave are going to have to start grabbing headlines to get away from the choreographed narrative Cameron and the MSM are all playing . That makes Leave look like they are always responding and are weak. Good on Boris for changing the narrative.


  18. thirdoption says:

    Lenny Henry complains that the BBC is hideously white and reckons he should be given more work, conveniently ignoring the fact that he’s not very good.



    What a joke.


  19. seismicboy says:

    When I watch that Premier Inn advert and see Lenny Henry walking out the front door of the hotel, for some reason my instincts tell me it’s a tramp been thrown out for sleeping in the foyer all night. How strange.

    Lenny Henry is top of the list of people who confuse diversity with talent.


    • Maria Brewin says:

      What is it with some Europeans and blacks? It seems that they have been given the right to stand in for all ethnic minorities.

      Concert To Mark Battle of Verdun Centenary Cancelled Over ‘Kuffar’ Rapper Perfomance

      This abomination should never have been considered in the first place, regardless of the ‘Kuffar’ references.

      Over 1m Indian soldiers served in WW1. If it is really necessary to make an ‘ethnic’ point, some reference to this would at least make some sense.


      • Up2snuff says:

        If I recall correctly, Maria, many Commonwealth countries had soldiers, sailors & airmen of a variety of skin colouration and variety of religion or none who, seeing the seat of the Head of the Commonwealth in a dire situation and the rest of Europe in even worse trouble, quickly volunteered to lend the UK their help. India was no exception, in WW1 or WW2: they were quick to help, despite problems of their own at home as portrayed recently on the Beeb R4.

        Three cheers for the Commonwealth countries, I say.

        Even some American cousins didn’t believe the Washington fluffing & wuffling at the start of WW2 and found ways to join up. I think one of the heroes of the first part of the Battle of Britain was a US pilot, who at some personal risk for breaking a law or two, nipped over into Canada and came to Britain to fly fighters out of Biggin Hill.


    • Al Shubtill says:

      Little wonder he look such a smug c**t in the photographs of him in the article.


      • Steve Jones says:

        Eddie Mair is a ‘box-ticker’ so, in the eyes of the BBC, is worth every unearned penny.
        More camp than a boy scouts jamboree.


    • scribblingscribe says:

      I like and trust Eddie Mair, he does ask the right questions.

      Radio 4 doesn’t have any competition so why does he require such remuneration? The BBC is awash with cash, amassing via compulsory taxation more than double what ITV earns in the market place.


      • HenryWood says:

        Interesting comment, scribblingscribe, but may I ask why you *trust* Mr. Mair?

        Personally, I would not trust a single person who is on the BBC’s payroll, including the likes of the tea-lady (if they still exist) because she will probably take great pride in servicing a £450,000 per annum freeloader.

        Mind you, Mrs. Mopp from ITMA could probably spill a few beans.


        • taffman says:

          An organisation partly funded by the EU. The whole thing stinks .


        • conanthelibrarian says:

          HenryWood , I agree with your sentiments ,but I think it should be confirmed first ,that Eddie Mair is ‘on the payroll’.
          Come on BBC, confirm whether that 450K+ is likely paid to Mr. Mair’s service company (in which case he would not be an employee of the BBC)?
          This is the standard method used in ‘the performing arts’ to further reduce the effective rate of tax suffered.I am familiar with that of which I speak-I have been a Chartered Accountant for over 30 years.
          I am not saying this is illegal , but I think a little more honesty would not go amiss from our ‘trusted broadcaster’
          More disinformation , I suspect , from ‘Auntie’ BBC


  20. Steve Jones says:

    This might have been posted before, apologies if so:
    What a complete and utter @rsehole. He obviously thinks that making the case for remaining in the EU, where he is paid a tidy sum for f*ck all, in a debate is beneath him.
    I say again, what a complete and utter arrogant @rsehole.


  21. Ian Rushlow says:

    BBC very excited that Nelson Mandela was apparently arrested following a tip-off by the CIA (no, he hasn’t come back to life. This took place in 1962). The article helpfully points out that “Mr Mandela served 27 years in jail for resisting white minority rule before being released in 1990.” Well, not quite. It wasn’t the act of resisting white minority rule that got him in trouble, it was the way he went about it. Specifically, and as a member of the South African Communist Party, he had setup the armed wing of the ANC – Umkhonto we Sizwe, or Spear of the Nation – the previous year. This engaged in armed struggle and Mandela commissioned several acts of terrorism and sabotage. He was convicted on conspiracy to overthrow the state. The BBC revisionists would rather you imagine him as a more peaceful, Gandhi-like character.


  22. HenryWood says:

    A Traitor In Our Midst

    For personal family reasons I have recently taken a closer than normal interest in the history of the Battle of El Alamein. As a result I last night watched two programmes, both freely available online from various sources, the first one presented by Richard Holmes dating from 2001, titled “History of WWII Battlefields – El Alamein” which seems to me to stick to the military facts concerning the prequel to, and then the prolonged and bloody battle, including interviews with participants, and it also explains the prologue to the actual battle and why it was decided that this battle simply had to be won. It was originally broadcast by the BBC.

    I then clicked on to “Churchill’s Desert War – The Road to El Alamein”, presented by Jonathon Dimbleby some 10 years after Richard Holmes programme. What a difference a decade makes: for a start the *whole* programme from beginning to end is Dimbleby, Dimbleby and *more* Dimbleby, including Dimbleby playing croquet just to show how the hoi-polloi carried on in those far off days.

    At the beginning, Dimbleby tells us:

    “This is the story of how the men who fought and died here in the desert were players in a high drama which was scripted in the war capitals of London, Rome, Washington and Berlin.”

    So, it was no longer a true battle against evil as most participants (including most volunteers and conscripts) on the allied side saw it, and also as I remember it being told to me by many participants over many years.

    Oh no, Mr. Dimbleby, it was a “high drama” scripted by Churchill and his cronies and thousands of soldiers died because of those scripts written in “London … [did anyone else notice that London and Washington preceeded Berlin as “war capitals”, though Rome seems to have been thrown into second place as a sop?] Do these Islington PC luvvies not think we see right through their revisionism?

    I really cannot be bothered to go on with this PC adapted version of the horrendous battle against the Afrika Korps, a battle that really did affect the outcome of WWII. I do just wonder how a Dimbleby can take the Danegeld of the BBC and lie about what was going on, especially after his own father’s famous and illustrious history as a superlative BBC war reporter.

    Do Dimblebys spin in graves? – especially if they were present at the relief of the German Concentration Camp of Bergen-Belsen – yet hear their offspring preaching about Churchill’s “high dramas”?

    Now in my 70s I find I utterly detest these dynasties of broadcasters’ families, politicians’ families and all the other “meeja” offspring plus left-wing luvvies who insist on telling us how we must think. Steve Coogan et al … go and do one …

    And worst of all, whilst I just think about it: – WHY SHOULD THE PROPOSED RULE ABOUT BBC WAGES ONLY DISCLOSE WHO EARNS OVER £450,000 per annum? Eh?

    No taxation without representation!
    Declare every single BBC salary which is higher than the Prime Minister of this country earns! (Or maybe to get an even truer picture of our “unbiased” national broadcaster – let’s see a table of every single employee [no names] who are earning twice the national average wage!) I bet *most* BBC employees can afford to pay their TV licence without too many problems. Eh?


    • Thoughtful says:

      Never forget that it was the unsung heros of Malta who enabled the British Army victory at El Alamein, and the seamen who kept them supplied. Not for nothing was it called the unsinkable aircraft carrier as aircraft flown from there destroyed Nazi convoys carrying supplies and oil for the Afrika Corps. If those supplies had reached Rommel the outcome might have been very different indeed.


      • HenryWood says:

        No one needs to remind me of Malta, especially “Operation Pedestal” in which my family, a seagoing family, lost one RN servicemen and one Merchant Mariner.

        The fact is, I was writing about the Battle of El Alamein which also greatly affected my family. I was actually referring to the blatant bias of a Dimbleby in his programme about El Alamein. No doubt if he ever makes a programme about Malta I shall then refer to that subject.


      • feargal the cat says:

        Thoughtful, ‘unsung heros of Malta’? The island was awarded the George Cross in 1942, in recognition of the part they played in the fight against the Germans.


        • Thoughtful says:

          feargal, the point I was attempting to make – this being the biased BBC and all, was that while they are prepared to push & promote the contribution of Indian soldiers they simply ignore the contribution of anyone with a Christian background.

          The Island was awarded the George Cross, but that was 1942, in 2016 there is zero recognition, and there hasn’t been for decades.


          • Number 88 says:

            I remember in the 50’s, when writing letters there, they were addressed to, Valetta, Malta GC.


    • Dover Sentry says:

      Excellent post, HenryWood.


  23. Mr.Golightly says:

    What an excellent post Henry.

    “I do just wonder how a Dimbleby can take the Danegeld of the BBC and lie about what was going on, especially after his own father’s famous and illustrious history as a superlative BBC war reporter.”
    “Do Dimblebys spin in graves? – especially if they were present at the relief of the German Concentration Camp of Bergen-Belsen – yet hear their offspring preaching about Churchill’s “high dramas”?

    There is no history any longer, only narratives. And narratives can be revised according to the requirements of the moment. From Belsen to Question Time in one generation.


    • manchesterlad says:

      Thank you for posting that Mr G. I could not click the ‘like’ button as I really cannot think of a less appropriate word.

      A sobering reminder of what socialism will do if given a free rein. Only someone who feels they are divinely ‘right’ are able to do such things to fellow men.

      If only Boris (or someone in prominence) would develop and examine the effects of this ideology on people then we would start to see Labour as the true ‘nasty party’.


  24. HenryWood says:

    Mr. Golightly,

    “From Belsen to Question Time in one generation.”

    A never to be forgotten description and with your permission, a soon to be oft-quoted description of a now despicable family.


  25. taffman says:

    All you ‘Global Warming’ weather watchers , the temperature in the Wild West of Wales according to my station is down to 5 Deg C. – Cold for this time of the year Eh, Al Beeb?


    • Up2snuff says:

      taffman, still no word in my ear from the BBC about last year’s CO2 and temperatures. Have I missed them?

      They were so eager in 2014 and 2015 to give me the numbers for the previous years, although the latter was that funny, and rather misleading CET temp figure.

      I’m still trying to sniff the breeze and work out what sort of summer we are going to have. I think I’m currently expecting a mixed one for the south-east of England: coolish with small bursts of high temperatures for a few days here and there. These tiny ‘heat-waves’ will get massive media coverage, of course, and be stated to be absolute proof of AGW/CC/Plagues of Frogs/Moon turned to Blood/etc.


  26. taffman says:

    Natalie Bennett will step down ? Anything about it on Al Beeb yet , or are they working on damage limitation ?
    Why is Al Beeb slow in reporting ? Perhaps they will pick up the story from this site ?


    • taffman says:

      And 8 hours later ?………………………………..
      Mm, seems the do look at this website?


    • chrisH says:

      Oh No!
      Natalie Must Stay…how do I tell the Greens that she really is their best asset and not a caricature of a pigthick Antipodean who`s outstayed her visa as a boil in the bag-bag?
      Natalie Bennett is a treasure…much like John Gummer and Ed Balls used to be.


      • Number 6 says:

        So lets get this straight

        A nobody has resigned as leader of the watermelons

        They currently have nobody as leader

        Doubtless soon they will have another nobody in place

        Looney tunes


  27. Maria Brewin says:

    As predicted. I thought the horn player was astonishing but ……….

    Expect the BBC to rediscover a deep interest in the cello.

    Cellist wins BBC Young Musician


    • Thoughtful says:

      Obviously to get the final you have to be more than just talented. The problem the BBC has created for itself is in constant rigging of contests to favour ethnics, so that when does come along who does deserve to win, that win is tainted by suspicions of the BBCs PC meddling hands being involved.


      • oldartist says:

        All three finalists gave wonderful performances. But I have to disagree with you Maria, I thought it was an astounding interpretation of the Shostakovich for one so young – really moving, in fact. Dobrinka Tabakova’s speech at the end was very pertinent with regard to the sea of mediocrity that is the modern world. I was also glad that Jackie Campbell received a prize.

        I criticise the BBC a lot, but on those very rare occasions when they do produce something outstanding it should be acknowledged. However, I would echo everything that Thoughtful has said. The BBC’c commitment to “diversity” has now tainted every successful black person with suspicion.


        • Andrew Caplan says:

          The BBC’s prejudices have an impact on everyone involved – I have sympathy for other finalists whose chances of winning might be reduced, and perhaps the judge in the unenviable position of preferring the “wrong” candidate.

          These days many orchestras audition blind for very good reasons. Wouldn’t make very good TV though.

          Just to keep things in perspective, in 2014 Benjamin Goldscheider became principal horn of the National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain and was awarded the John Fletcher Brass Award. He has already worked as a freelance musician for the Philarmonia Orchestra and does session work. Next year he will be performing the Richard Strauss Horn Concerto No. 2 with the Lucerne Symphony Orchestra.

          As Maria says below, time will tell.


          • Iain Muir says:

            Benjamin Goldscheider?

            Not going to tick any boxes with a name like that, is he?


    • embolden says:

      Uncle Tom? Cultural appropriation? Or proof that racism against black people in 21st century Britain is a figment of the lefts imagination?

      I’d call it bad tv since it is so, so predictable…..the page linked to has one comment….bemoaning “tokenism”.


      • Iain Muir says:

        “Or proof that racism against black people in 21st century Britain is a figment of the lefts imagination?”

        After posting a flippant comment above, not having followed the competition (it’s on the BBC, after all, and seems to include a huge amount of padding these days) I googled the winner’s name. Apparently he plays in something called “Chineke!”, so I googled that.


        “The Chineke! Orchestra is Europe’s first, professional Black and Minority Ethnic (BME) orchestra.”

        In the last picture I saw of a professional orchestra (LSO?) I was amazed at the number of players who were obviously of far-eastern origin, but they seem to be conspicuous by their absence from Chineke!.



    • The Old Bloke says:

      I wonder what his cake making skills are like?


  28. popeye says:

    I was channel hopping and caught the piano playing at the end on Young Musician 2016 which I thought was superb. Then they got to the announcement of the winner. I haven’t watched previously but as soon as I saw the three finalists I somehow knew who was going to win. Now this is blatantly unfair on the young man as he could very well have deserved his win but due to the BBC’s record there is always the perception that he only got it due to his ethnicity. See Beeb, you are making us all sub-conscious racists

    Sorry Thoughtful, beat me to it!


    • Maria Brewin says:

      Time will tell – who has the most successful career. I’d certainly be prepared to bet that the horn player (a treacherous instrument in many ways) will have a first class career, either as a principal, a soloist, or both.


      • Andrew Caplan says:

        ‘first class career, either as a principal, a soloist, or both.’

        Safe bet – see above.


    • Deborahanother says:

      I too could tell the winner but what appalls me is that the whole competition is relegated to channel 4 and hardly publicised, almost like they don’t want to publicise exceptional talent in the youth.

      I believe this to be because most entrants are middle class well educated children from stable families .The eventual winner is from a clearly dedicated and musical family and doesnt fit the rap gang culture view so beloved of the BEEB .And it proves you can make it whatever your ethnic background .

      I think all of the finalists were very talented but clearly have supportive families and there was no deprived background narrative for the BEEB to follow.These kids were very hard workers .

      I’d be asking questions about why working class inner city kids are not represented if our state school system is so excellent.


      • Andrew Caplan says:

        “I’d be asking questions about why working class inner city kids are not represented if our state school system is so excellent.”

        Do you recall the controversy several years ago when the Royal Opera House offered a number of free tickets (for a ballet, I think) to a school in the East End? The teachers tried to suppress the fact until parents somehow found out and insisted on the tickets being made available.

        The working classes’ main enemy is often the Left. “The people” are just cannon fodder.


  29. Thoughtful says:


    On 16 May, BBC News will host a day of special live coverage examining how the movement of people is changing the world we live in and how our economies develop.

    What a crock! It’s pretty obvious how this is, and will continue to play out.

    Given its head by the useless Tories the BBC is now stepping the bias up a gear with relentless left wing pro migration bias. It is appalling listening.


    • StewGreen says:

      BBC News just launched “Migration Day” #‎WorldOnTheMove‬ on its Facebook page

      They focus on a speech by top ACTOR “Angelina Jolie Pitt”


      • Oldspeaker says:

        After reading about the successful ethnic cleansing of East London, the fact that the state broadcaster (financed by an illegal tax) is promoting jihad through immigration doesn’t seem half as bat shit crazy as it should.


      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        As Angelina once famously said:
        ” none of my children are aware of who is adopted, isn’t that right Charlie, Billy, Sarah, Benny, Umbongo.
        I’ll get me coat.


      • StewGreen says:

        Oh hang on the BBC isn’t EVERYDAY “Migration Day”, in “Migration Month”, in “Migration Decade” ?


        • Sluff says:

          And the result of this multi culti open door immigration reveals itself in ways which the bBBC never report.
          Over at the socialist republic of Slough, the predictable Labour landslide occurred last week.
          Guess what? The white anglo saxon male leader and deputy leader are being ousted after an acrimonious internal Labour meeting. Rob Anderson and James Swindlehurst are being replaced by Sohail Munawar and Sabia Hussain. Ably supported by Cllr Shafiq Chaudhry and Cllr Mohammed Nazir.

          “For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind”


    • Up2snuff says:

      I beg to differ, Thoughtful. I would say this programme is at the very least two years too late.

      Sure, there may be mixed motives at the BBC and it is very difficult to listen with Bias Antennae twitching furiously. However, they are adding to their ‘inform & educate’ portfolio with this. The thing I find interesting is the little bits of information that creep in ‘between the lines’, in interviews with refugees and migrants. The comments of ‘returnees’ is interesting.

      Then there are the wonderful incongruities. The BBC in ‘normal mode’ these days would be anti-McDonalds, anti-obesity, anti-Primark, anti-‘sweatshop’ mode but no hysteria occurs when we are told that a VietNamese refugee returns to VietNam with the national franchise for an American restaurant chain in his pocket.

      As I type, Lord Desai is saying some of all the wrong things for the recent standardised BBC approach to the migration problem.


  30. StewGreen says:

    BTW on that same BBC News FB page the previous item is
    Always adopt, NEVER shop. Here’s the ethical way to choose a puppy
    Yes a good sentiment but this is the BBC CAMPAIGNING again
    See the words “social” and “CAMPAIGN” are in the URL : “http://www.bbc.com…….social&ns_campaign…….”

    I am sure people in the pedigree puppy industry would suggest buying from a reliable breeder.


  31. MartinW says:

    At 6 am, after hearing of the proposed agenda for the ‘Today’ programme, I decided not to listen to any of it this morning. It has been so delightful, I shall repeat the experience whenever there is danger of the same, or of: John Major, climate change, transgenders, “Sir” Leonard Henry, muslim special pleading, Sadik Khan, ‘Andy’ Burnham, the NHS, etc, etc. It’s better for the blood pressure.


    • Old Goat says:

      That’ll be most days, then. I gave it up last year, and never went back. I am a far better goat, for the abstention.


  32. Guest Who says:

    To paraphrase Mrs.Merton, I wonder what it was about Mr. Boyle’s social commentary preferences that allowed them to forgive, forget and welcome him back into the fold so soon…


    • Number 88 says:

      I’ll expect Carol Thatcher to return to our screens imminently, then…..tick tock!


  33. Dave says:

    As a parent of twins I was excited to receive a tweet from TAMBA ( the twins and Multiple Births Association, and a fine organisation it is too ) advising the the BBC was casting for some identical twins for a forthcoming CBeebies program to help show the world from a twin’s perspective. All well and good. My twins are not identical so wouldn’t be considered by I was astonished to read the following at the end of the casting note:

    “The production is looking to represent the CBeebies audience, reflecting and celebrating the diversity of children across the UK, so are particularly looking for identical twins who come from an ethnic background.”

    Could someone tell me what ethnic background has to do with being a twin?

    Full casting note is in the original tweet: https://twitter.com/tamba_twins_mb/status/731149969713926145

    Nice to see confirmation of the BBC’s agenda in, ahem, black and white.


    • Demon says:

      “particularly looking for identical twins who come from an ethnic background.”

      That’s one of the many things Dr Mengele was doing.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Everyone is from sort of ethnic background, but they are not looking for twins from, say, an English ethnic background. What they really mean is “no White people need apply”, but they can’t legally say that – for now.
      Racism like this – and Islamism for that matter – develops in three stages:
      1. The call for tolerance.
      2. The demand for special treatment.
      3. Having secured 1 and 2, proceed to eliminate ‘the Other’


  34. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    UN says turning migrants away ‘won’t work’
    They haven’t actually tried it, and no-one has thought through their notion of emptying the third-world and ‘welcoming’ all of them here. Still, HYS isn’t going too well for the bBBC’s lefties. When will they close it?


  35. Oldspeaker says:

    “UN says turning migrants away ‘won’t work'” So uncontrolled manufactured mass immigration does work?

    Nice to see everybody integrating and being tolerant of each other, and the numbers will have shifted since this was filmed.


    • manchesterlad says:

      If any evidence is needed that Islam should be treated as a mental illness in a civilised society, this short video is surely it. Those morons should be sectioned, not respected.

      Welcome to left-world, shortly showing in a country near you.


  36. seismicboy says:

    The problem the BBC has is they have 2 flagships when they wish they have 1. They are attempting to be all things to all people and it’s not working out.
    Championing LGBT and Islam are clearly not mutually compatible. I think it’s a question of timing. On one hand Islam is an ancient religion. The LBGT thing is really a modern issue – it’s almost fashionable and could not be more alien to a muslim.
    It’s fun to watch the BBC try to juggle these 2 balls.


  37. Edited Highlights says:

    EU Referendum Page – 16th May


    Total links – 58
    Neutral – 25
    Pro Brexit – 9
    Pro Remain – 24

    Over 200% more for Pro Remain, and the Pro Remain stories are more prominent than those for Pro Brexit.

    Some subtle bias also in use of pictures by the BBC. Union Jack currently appears 6 times on that page, so does the hideous blue thing. Union Jack is always obscured by the flag of the EU socialist superstate, or otherwise blurred or diminished, while the EU flag is seen flying high, highlighted and in a good light. The BBC has serious form in the use of imagery to get their biased viewpoint across.

    Their efforts don’t seem to be working, 3 of the last 4 polls I’ve seen Leave have the lead, and Leave are more likely to vote. BBC not reporting the polls as it looks as if the people are just not getting the answer right. Imagine the numbers if the state broadcaster showed even the faintest hint of impartiality or even an atomic modicum of balance?


    • NotSure says:

      That’s just the polls that we can find if we look hard for them. I suspect that there are many more polls that have conveniently been flushed to keep them from Joe Public’s view regardless of who may or may not report them.

      bbC – Fingers in ears, eyes closed, singing LA-LA-LA. If I can’t see you, you can’t be real.


  38. Colboysigma says:


    Anyone think the BBC will notice the overwhelming anti-migrant tone in the HYS section after his story? Definitely not, but I quite enjoyed “liking” so many great comments!


    • Guest Who says:

      Seems the BBC noticed this comment, with around (hard to tell exactly) 200 ‘likes’:

      24. Posted by Raskilnikov
      5 hours ago
      This comment was removed because it broke the house rules. Explain


  39. Thoughtful says:

    It is jaw dropping listening to the avoidance of the BBC on the issue of refugees / economic migrants.
    Of course they do not refer to economic migrants, only refugees, yet even then they just cannot bring themselves to mention the truth that the vast majority of refugees are running away from Islam.
    Worse than that they learn no lessons at all from their experience, and seek to recreate what they have run from in any new country they arrive in!
    The main problem comes back to Saudi Arabian promotion of Wahabist Islam, intolerant, and violent, and backwards, but they have the money and are prepared to use it.
    The pathetic liberals can see the symptom, and they can probably see the cause, but they just can’t being themselves to admit it, even to themselves.
    There will be no end to this until Saudi stops or is stopped from promoting its virulent hate religion, and with Western politicians firmly in its pocket there’s no chance of that happening anytime soon.


  40. StewGreen says:

    The Jolie Propaganda Show is on multiple BBC networks at the same time #bbcMigrationDay
    R4, WS, and 5 Live just patched over aswell still going on
    I was looking forward to listening to R4 You and Yours, but no it’s cancelled and replaced by
    “12:15 World on the Move: Angelina Jolie Pitt in Conversation with Mishal Husain
    Part of a day of programmes exploring the mass movement of people.”


    • BRISSLES says:

      Yes, well apparently there is another ‘mass movement of people’ – this time from the Caribbean. Claiming to be from Somalia (with a Dominican Republic accent ??) they are travelling via Amsterdam to Turkey in a bid to creep into Europe via Greece. It just gets better doesn’t it. How soon before these thickos lilo their way from Sweden to the Shetlands and enter the UK literally by the back door ? its not beyond the bounds of possibility.

      According to the Beeb, the migration between Turkey and Greece is now only a trickle. It will have miraculously stopped altogether come the week of the vote !


      • 60022Mallard says:

        I think you may find it depends a lot on whether the EU drop a requirement for dictator Erdogan to repeal laws used to imprison those who pubicly express less than enchantment with him in order for Turks to have visa free access to the Schengen zone in return for staunching the flow.

        Now if you were an EU negotiator at the moment you might expect to be between a rock and a hard place. With the jolly old referendum coming up you will have been told to not do anything to open the taps again before June 23rd.

        P.S. latest Norfolk voting according to the local paper 40% out 30% in.

        I wonder if we can go independent if Scotland’s votes keep us in!


  41. TrueToo says:

    Deborah, adding a link to a comment is easy if you know how to copy and paste:

    *Put your mouse cursor on the http:// address in the bar at the top of the web page you want to link to.

    *Right click the mouse and a menu will drop down.

    *Left click on ‘Copy’.

    *Go back to your comment box and right click where you want the link to appear.

    *Left click on ‘Paste’ and that’s it.


    • Deborahanother says:

      Thanks for that I will give it a try.


      • TrueToo says:

        You can also copy and paste sections of text by left-clicking, holding down and dragging the cursor along and up or down. The text will be highlighted in blue and then you can carry on as above.


  42. GCooper says:

    Martha Kearney plumbed new depths of uselessness today in her ‘interview’ with the UN High Commissioner for refugees. And if you’re wondering why I put the word ‘interview’ in quotes, it’s because the word ‘audience’ would have been more appropriate.

    As the half-truths and downright lies flowed from his lips, la Kearney failed to ask a single difficult question, allowing the highly paid propagandist to praise Merkel and ‘surrounding nations’, damn Europe (its failing is due to the lack of central government control in the EU, apparently – I bet that earned him a few approving nods in the control room!) and on and on and on, sadly on. Whatever the functionary said, Kearney simply plugged on with the next leading question guaranteed to be met with a response that could have been scripted at a Guardian editorial meeting.

    And this has been the tone of the entire day’s output from R4 so far – synchronised sobbing, a complete absence of journalistic rigour, an insult to the listeners’ intelligence and yet another reason why the corrupt, nakedly propagandising BBC must go. It is a farce.


    • AlexM says:

      If the UN wants to badger governments into “doing more” i.e. spend more tax payers’ money, one miht fairly ask why UN employees don’t contribute by paying income tax on their salaries.


  43. Up2snuff says:

    GC “Martha Kearney plumbed new depths of uselessness today in her ‘interview’ with the UN High Commissioner for refugees.”

    Correct but I suspect she was only on his coattails, following him on the downward path to uselessness in the hopes of a soundbite. What a disgrace! Now that we know what he really said, somewhat different to what was initially presented as his comments on the BBC web-site, I think Grandi should be immediately sacked for bringing the UN into disrepute. Red card time!

    When you accuse the UK of ‘not doing enough’, Mr High Commissioner, you really need to make sure the UN has covered itself in glory, not just in Syria, but the rest of the Near & Middle East. One of the few things (only thing?) to the UN’s credit was its investigations into Assad’s supposed use of chemical weapons and getting him to surrender the stocks of possible components that could be used for chemical weapons in the future. If I recall correctly, the US President had to lean heavily on the UN just to get that done, Mr High Commissioner.


  44. ObiWan says:

    The BBC has been virtue signalling furiously all day regarding what it (and it alone) calls ‘World On The Move’. I wasn’t aware the BBC has now formalised its role as a pro-migrant political activist organisation, but clearly I haven’t seen the memo.

    On another, but not unrelated note, the BBC continues to revise history, this time with Chairman Mao and his ‘little red book’…

    ..Why the fuss over Mao’s Little Red Book?

    It has been 60 years since Communist Party chairman Mao Zedong’s Cultural Revolution spread across China – and with it came a collection of his quotations known as the ‘Little Red Book’. It became a must-have item for left-wing radicals in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s – and even appeared in the House of Commons last year, courtesy of Labour’s shadow chancellor, John McDonnell. But why all the fuss?

    Why all the fuss, BBC? Oh, I dunno, perhaps because your jolly little film belittles the human cost of Mao’s little red book.

    Mao Zedong, founder of the People’s Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday.

    Speaking at The Independent Woodstock Literary Festival, Frank Dikötter, a Hong Kong-based historian, said he found that during the time that Mao was enforcing the Great Leap Forward in 1958, in an effort to catch up with the economy of the Western world, he was responsible for overseeing “one of the worst catastrophes the world has ever known”.

    45 million murdered at the altar of communism thanks in no small part to that little red book, but the BBC thinks it’s all a fuss about nothing.


    • chrisH says:

      Stalin did say something in regard of 45 million murders by the State is a “statistic”….whereas one Trayvon Martin would be a “tragedy”.
      The Stalinist would similarly regard mid-Staffs killings as statistics, but Bobby Sands, Mark Duggan, Bin Laden, Jihadi John and Blair Peach, James Hanratty etc…all as individual tragedies and all worthy of hounding the rest of us to death with their faux-concerns.
      This is the Left-and the useless eaters that re the BBCs masticators of Lefty pellets.
      Now-had McDonnell thrown a Gideons New Testament and Psalms(also Red) across the dispatch box…you can bet half the liberal left would have claimed whiplash and be seeking compo…and other MPs would have had an attack of the vapours, as well as seeking months off for PTSD.
      They`d all be wearing hi-viz jackets, hard hats and have training on how to avoid the Truth being bandied around in a pubic place.
      No spelling error either.


  45. AsISeeIt says:

    Oh dear, it comes to something when even the Guardian takes a pop at the BBC

    ‘Undercover’s great potential – brilliant cast, huge angry knotty issues – has been fatally undermined by implausibilities. I know we always have to suspend a bit of disbelief, but it’s hardly ideal to leave your audience hollering at copious plotholes every couple of scenes, is it?’

    And as for the public comments…

    ‘Well that’s six hours of my life I’ll never get back. What a load of shite. And to pile on the irritation, they’ve kept it open for a second series. No thanks.’

    ‘God it was awful. And I started to have the horrifiying realisation that they were heading for a second series about 40 minutes in and I started shouting at the telly that I was not having a second series, I just wasn’t. I stuck with it PURELY because I wanted to know the conspiracy. And then it was just completely rubbish.’



    • Sluff says:

      I watched episode 1, thinking it might be good after the NIght Manager.
      It wasn’t. It was a left wing multi culti polemic, so I stopped watching.


      • GCooper says:

        I’ve got to the point where I don’t even start watching a series until I’ve read the reviews. If it passes the ‘non-propaganda’ test I might then give it a chance.

        It must be said that, as a consequence, nowadays I scarcely watch any BBC drama at all.


        • BRISSLES says:

          So many questions left unanswered. Who was the fake girlfriend of Dan ? Why did Nick not use the secret recording up his plaster cast ? Umpteen years married with adult kids, and Nick only gave his handler TWO bits of useful information. Was his wife’s epilepsy cured ? I personally could have slapped the whole cast – especially those ‘kids’ who wanted to know “why isn’t Daddy here?’ all the time, oh give me strength. The only question answered was the reason why so few awards are given to non-whites – rubbish acting.


  46. Roland Deschain says:

    Oh, noes, it hotter than ever now.

    April breaks global temperature record

    What a shame they’ve buried that under their own Jolie Express.