On The Shoulders of Pygmies



Been looking at Jo Nova’s site and read her thankyou to the likes of Roger Harrabin for their part in her success after winning the ‘Bloggies’ Lifetime Achievement award:


She said:

I’d like to thank especially, the Mainstream Media, without which I would have hardly any traffic. I dedicate this win today to the science journalists in the ABC, BBC, CBC, CBS or CNN, and to Roger Harrabin, Andy Revkin and George Monbiot — all of whom make it so easy for skeptical blogs to flourish. Their promotion of logical fallacies, one-sided reports, and rank name-calling paves the way, en masse for hundreds of thousands of disappointed, thoughtful, inquisitive readers to hunt online for something better.

If science journalists were good scientists or good journalists skeptical blogs would not be one of the largest single categories on the world wide web.



No need to add any more to that really except a reminder that it was climate sceptic websites that pretty much swept the board……

Best European Weblog: Tallbloke’s Talkshop tallbloke.wordpress.com
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014

Best Canadian Weblog: Small Dead Animals smalldeadanimals.com
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014

Best Weblog About Politics: The Global Warming Policy Foundation thegwpf.org
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014

Best Topical Weblog: Climate Audit climateaudit.org
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014

Best Group or Community Weblog: Watts Up With That? wattsupwiththat.com
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014

Lifetime Achivement: JoNova joannenova.com.au
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014

Weblog of the Year: Watts Up With That? wattsupwiththat.com See you next year!—
The Weblog Awards (@Bloggies) March 31, 2014



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29 Responses to On The Shoulders of Pygmies

  1. Guest Who says:

    Be interesting what funding models these blogs are using and to what extent they involve public compulsion.
    They can’t all be in pay of Big Oil.
    And even if they were, it would seem they are anyway being hunted on a voluntary basis by audiences seeking something better than £4Bpa apparently provides.
    The future of trusted, transparent reporting driven by popular choice is an exciting one. But it doesn’t seem to include the BBC’s contribution or uniques in other ways.


    • Phil Ford says:

      “…They can’t all be in pay of Big Oil…”

      If only, GW. Actually, as interesting aside, some years ago Jo Nova herself undertook a fairly rigorous study, using an army of volunteers, into just who is profiteering out of the CAGW scam. You can find her free PDF report here: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/climate_money.pdf

      In a nutshell the findings boiled down to:

      for every $1 of ‘big oil’ money sceptics (allegedly) receive, CAGW ‘on-message’ alarmists receive $3000 (almost all of it public funds – yes, taxpayer money).

      So that’s a 3000-to-1 bias in favour of the warmists.

      Makes an absolute mockery of those spurious, entirely unfounded claims continually made by CAGW apologists that sceptics are somehow ‘in the pay of big oil’.

      If you really want to weep yourself to sleep try looking up how much the likes of WWF, Greenpeace and Ofam and assorted other bottom-feeders sucking at the teat of CAGW get in handouts (again, public money) from the UN and EU every year. Most people are not even aware that these CAGW-championing ‘charidees’ are in receipt of taxpayer money to the tune of £millions every year – just Google for their yearly accounts. Staggering.

      Jo Nova does a great job and I’ve happily donated to her excellent site several times over the years. And I’m very proud and glad to have done so. And I will most assuredly do so again.


      • Guest Who says:

        3,000 to 1?
        That would be what the BBC is prone to call a ‘split’ then, using that unique maffymatix of theirs.
        I too am an appreciative consumer of Ms. Nova’s work.
        She is thorough, fair and not averse to humour.
        No wonder she is anathema to those who operate on a very different basis.


    • johnnythefish says:

      There was an ongoing spat last year between the GWPF and Sir Paul Nurse – he of ‘science is settled’ who heads the Royal Society (motto: ‘on the word of no-one’) following an open attack by Nurse on Lawson in a lecture in Melbourne because Andrew Montford, a colleague of Lawson’s, dared to criticise the way ‘climate science’ was being conducted and especially the ‘settled’ stance being taken by Nurse in the Royal Society’s name.

      See some of it here


      and there are links to earlier correspondence in which Nurse demands clarification from Lawson on how the GWPF is funded as he suspects it’s acting as a ‘lobby group’ (for….? – ‘Big Oil’ could be the only inference). You would think reading the exchanges that Lawson is the scientist and Nurse the politician.

      Needless to say Nurse declines Lawson’s offer for scientists from both sides to debate and instead condescendingly offers scientists to ‘advise’ the GWPF as ‘it seems to have lost its way’. The man’s arrogance is breathtaking and his unsuitability for the role is blatantly obvious to all who believe that science is an open discipline in which challenge, even if it is from a minority of one, should be welcomed.


  2. john in cheshire says:

    Am I supposed to have heard of this entity? I haven’t and I read many blogs; her androgynous name hasn’t cropped up once.


    • starfish says:

      Somewhat pretentious to assume the responsibility of defining someone’s status as an ‘entity’?

      Would you like to enlighten us on those blog authors you do consider to be ‘entities’?


    • John Anderson says:

      She is actually well-known in the climate blogosphere – often referred to by the likes of BishopHill of the UK and WattsUpWithThat of the US.

      The latter won the top spot for several years running – so was not eligible this year,

      But BOTH websites allow open debate – including comments by Warmists. They provide REAL facts, not the sort of propaganda the BBC specialises in.

      I am glad JoNova (based in Australia I believe) singled out Roger Harrabin, for backhanded thanks – because he is a disgrace to the “profession” of journalism.


      • Richard Pinder says:

        In future, An effigy of Roger Harrabin should be preserved as an exibit in a science Museum.

        As an example of the BBC’s idea of trying to pass off left-wing Environmental activists as “the best scientific experts“, so as to fob off scientists who complained to the BBC, about the use of lies and deception and the promotion of scientific fraud.

        But it is interesting to note that it is statements by the BBC, that go beyond that of the corrupt IPCC, that seem to be the key, to the future destruction of the BBC.

        It looks like that is why Lord Hall was shoed in as director general, to keep a lid on the cess pool, as long as possible.

        But then when will the dam burst, I can only guess, but the stories in the Daily Mail seem to be gradually ramping up and up, so it seems that the more serious stories that I am hearing, are still to come.

        The key seems to be the fact that a government committee is discovering that lots of scientists have been fobbed off by the BBC complaints process, by unscientific lies, not even supported by the IPCC consensus.


    • Henry Wood says:

      Do you know something, “John in Cheshire”, I had not heard of this “entity” either, but do you know what I went and did? Why, I simply put the name into Google and lo an behold, quite an interesting few hours reading opened up before my very eyes.
      Is it better to have a “view” like “John in Cheshire”? = “Well, I never heard of that so it must be worthless! ‘Cos I am John in Cheshire and I read many blogs and therefore *I*, John in Cheshire, know wot is worth ever knowing!”

      Here’s a tip “JiC” : P.O. !


  3. NotaSheep says:

    Jo Nova’s blog has cropped up numerous times on this blog and on many others, including mine. Maybe you don’t pay enough attention, or don’t want to…


  4. NotaSheep says:

    Your tone in your original comment stank – ‘Am I supposed to have heard of this entity? I haven’t and I read many blogs; her androgynous name hasn’t cropped up once.’

    If you know that you might be ignorant on a subject then maybe keep schtum…


    • john in cheshire says:

      And maybe I’ll say what I like and you can take it or leave it. Your attitude to my comment stinks too. So there; we can all be childish, or socialist or whatever you are.


      • pah says:

        Is your Dad bigger than his Dad?


      • Henry Wood says:

        Your attitude is the only thing stinking around here and the more you go on the higher you stink. (Are you sure you are from Cheshire? Not many fish found there, are there?)


  5. NotaSheep says:

    You can say what you like and I can point out that the ignorant should think twice before commenting. As for calling me a ‘socialist’ – that’s a first and so very very wrong. NCF


    • john in cheshire says:

      Apologies, I’m in a bad mood tonight.


      • TPO says:

        Ah! A gentleman.


      • Henry Wood says:

        Oh dear. I should have read to the end of the thread before commenting. Take care, John in Cheshire.


        • Stewart says:

          “I should have read to the end of the thread before commenting.”
          Good advice for all Henry Wood , good advice for all


          • Henry Wood says:

            Fair enough, Stewart.

            However … On going back over the whole thread once more I’m afraid “John in Cheshire” still comes out as a self-absorbed, quite ignorant prig when he stated:
            “”Am I supposed to have heard of this entity? I haven’t and I read many blogs; her androgynous name hasn’t cropped up once.”

            The fact that he much later attempted to qualify his self-absorbed, ignorant statement with this:
            “Apologies, I’m in a bad mood tonight.”
            Well, that on second reading does *not* absolve his original comment. His original comment was rude and ignorant. Bad tempers do not excuse rudeness nor ignorance.

            So, Stewart, on second thoughts, my original comments stand about this rude and ignorant poster.


            • Stewart says:

              I think the advice of ‘thinking it through’ applies to John as much as any . If, in better mood, he had thought to search ‘Jo Nova’ or waited for someone else to ( I my self cannot recall a post referring to her) his response ,if any,would likely have been different .He in fact went off ‘half cock, but found the self control to stop digging and admit his fault.
              And that I think is admirable
              ( Oh and I very much included myself in that all)


            • john in cheshire says:

              Henry, a final post : You are correct, it was gratuitously ignorant of me, I did go off half-cocked and I regret my original posting. Thanks to all who have pointed this out to me. I have now googled Jo Nova and of course she is not who I had expected her to be, so apologies to her too.


      • Deborah says:

        I was beginning to think John that you were a troll pretending to be you. Hope you are now in better mood.


  6. Stewart says:

    On the subject of climate change

    To be clear I am not a devote of the ‘electric universe’ theory but they ask some interesting questions not least in this vid.


  7. Tomfiglio says:

    Well said.