326 Responses to MONDAY OPEN THREAD….

  1. Thoughtful says:

    Oh the Today program on radio 4 has a piece about black people in Tudor England 08:45 an admission that they weren’t brought here as slave ‘and played a part in building society by bringing their own culture with them!’

    But then he goes on associating the Moors with Black Africans which they clearly are not.

    Then there’s the documents to remove the blacks from England which apparently did not contain the signature of Elizabeth the First, and the removal never happened !

    No mention of course of the words in the document, why the signature might be false, nor why the removal failed, and the evidence to the contrary.

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    • John Anderson says:

      and of course no arguments against the multi-culti guy. The last words of the programme were “Africans were an integral part of Tudor England”.

      It would actually be fairer and more factual to say “English people were an integral part of Moorish society” – having been enslaved by Barbary pirates.

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      • flexdream says:

        Saying something as obviously untrue as “Africans were an integral part of Tudor England” does nothing to promote race equality as it just makes the people that say it seem stupid.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Makes me wonder if the BBC are reading these pages as we only discussed this last week in response to a comment about a black person seen in Tudor Monastery farm.

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      • Geoff says:

        It was me that raised that subject, it seems the BBC follow the Diane Abbot view of history, she even gets her own page on the BBC British History site giving her twisted view of such …

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          • Pounce says:

            What fucking racist drivel from a Black British MP.
            I quote:
            “British schoolchildren are taught about the abolition of slavery. They hear less about the key role that slavery played in the British economy in the eighteenth century.”

            And even less people know about how Great Britain was instrumental in abolishing slavery around the world. You stupid stupid racist bigot of a black woman why don’t you mention that. Britain was but one nation which subscribed to Slavery. But it was the only fucking nation which used its Empire to end this odious practice.
            Typical fucking leftwing black women who can only see White people as racist. Tell you what you fat ugly lying bint fuck off to a so called superiour black country and write to us all about how fucking great life is.
            And the bBC thinks she is qualified to berate us all.

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            • flexdream says:

              What about the role of Arabs and Black Africans in the slave trade? And European slaves in North Africa and the Ottoman Empire. No, we don’t hear enough about slavery do we?

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            • David Brims says:

              Here’s some of the racist things Diane Abbott has said, on Twitter,

              ” We shouldn’t play the white mans game, they play divide and rule”.

              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2082527/Diane-Abbott-Twitter-race-row-MP-faces-calls-resign-racist-tweet.html

              And when the government was trying to employ nurses from Finland, Abbott was furious,

              ” depriving black people of jobs. the nurses had probably never met, let alone touched’, a black person before arriving in Britain and hinting that they were not suited to work in a multi-cultural community.”

              But they are basically here to improve their English and are unlikely to give the British health service a lifetime’s commitment.

              `I am surprised that they choose to bring in blonde, blue-eyed girls from Finland, instead of nurses from the Caribbean who know the language and understand British culture and institutions.

              `And are Finnish girls, who may never have met a black person before, let alone touched one, best suited to nursing in multi-cultural Hackney?”

              She’s a racist and race hustler, but the media gives her a free pass because she’s black. Like a good marxist hypocrite, she’s also sent her son to a £6,000 a year private school in Ghana.

              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083704/Divide-rule-Diane-Abbott-sent-son-6-000-private-school-Ghana.html#ixzz1ivRLR8YM

              islamversuseurope.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/diane-abbotts-finnish-nurses.html

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          • JimS says:

            I like this bit from our Diane:
            “Whereas in fact there were plenty of non-white people who were in America and Australia all along who knew perfectly well where the source of the Nile was.”
            I bet there are quite a few ‘white’ people in America and Australia now who don’t even know where the Nile is, let alone its source!

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          • Mark B says:

            The funny thing about our dear Dianne and the her colleagues in the Labour Party is, that when it came to choosing their new leader, she did remarkably badly. What is because she was black ? What is because she was a woman ? Or was it because, even amongst the collective socialist detritus, she was just too much of a bad thing. Whatever the reason, the Labour Party spurned her, and Britain was saved from having the first black PM. And if you think that is a bit far fetched, well, remember that the present incumbent of No.10 couldn’t even beat a Scottish Socialist, who had zero mandate to be in that position, who was truly odious and was responsible for trashing the economy. Oh, and he renege on the promise of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

            An historic opportunity missed – thankfully !

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    • Dave s says:

      Laughable. Typical BBC divel. No doubt the black Africans were part of the endless waves of immigrants that came to this country (according to the liberal idiots) in the 11th,12th 13th, 14th, 15th centuries , and so on .You get the idea.
      They always have a problem with the ethnic mix on the south shore of the Med. Get it wrong most of the time so no point in trying to tell them.
      Yes there were black people in Tudor England and probably Indian, Chinese and others.
      But they amounted to a tiny percentage of what was a rural society.
      This is just agenda driven special pleading and will convince only the most gullible that we have always been a multiracial and multicultural nation.
      Liberal do lies not reality.

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    • David Brims says:

      But they did land on the Moon first, here’s the evidence, the ” Old Negro Space Programme.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      If you go on holiday to Gibraltar, you’ll find that the place is full of natives who regard themselves as the hideously white descendants of Moors.

      The Moors have had their ethnic identity stolen by the Arabs in North Africa, and by Black studies in US education, which is the source of the BBC Blacks in Britain bullshit.

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  2. AsISeeIt says:

    Continuing the theme of quiz questions….

    I quote form BBC On-line England news page which has this headline:

    ‘3 December 2013 Last updated at 08:53’
    ‘Police restart an investigation into claims of physical and sexual abuse at an Catholic orphanage in Bedfordshire. ‘

    Note the grammar. The use of the indefinite article ‘an’ is your clue. After the sentence was written what word has later been inserted before the word orphanage?

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  3. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC racist stock photo number 101

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25195914

    ‘Domestic violence services ‘at breaking point”

    Chosen BBC pic shows a light skinned hand cluching a dark skinned hand. Presumably implying a white person is abusing a black person. Racism.

    Care to back up that supposed trend with statistics BBC?

    Also the white hand appears to be male. The black hand appears to be female. Casual sexism

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Other interpretations are of course possible.

      Perhaps this photograph represents the strong white hand of the liberal state forcefully restraining a black mother from chastising her child by corporal punishment?

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      • Geoff says:

        Maybe she’s just dropped the knife? But AsISeeIt has called it right.

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      • DB says:

        The caption for the photo is about women being abused, so I think your first interpretation is correct – white man attacking black woman.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘Other interpretations are of course possible.’
        I’m going for Obi Wan holding Mace Windu’s hand steady as he so teaches some hecklers in the front row a lesson at the Jedi Xmas panto performance of ‘Priscilla, Queen of the Desert’.
        But I may be wrong.
        At the very least, another BBC PC Picture Ed that has perhaps highlighted the knots they do get themselves in.
        As per the demographics @ skool series they tried to spread around the full BBC image-bearing estate, I wonder if they ‘mixed it up a bit’ elsewhere… ‘for balance’?
        But on the main story, it would be interesting to know how typical white male on black female partner abuse is in comparison to other groupings, if such stats are recorded.

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        • David Brims says:

          That particular photograph of the white male hand clenching, restraining the female black arm, that didn’t happen by accident. There was great care and thought in choosing that picture.

          Why not two white hands or two black hands or a black male hand restraining the white female arm ?

          Agenda, what agenda ?

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  4. Betty Swollocks says:

    Yet again,they are stuffing gayness down our throats.

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    • Geoff says:

      Maybe the Tom Daly thing was orchestrated, the comments and trolling on the DT website were beyond belief, they had Stonewall all over them, mind you as some pointed out up thread, the DT is morphing into the Guardian.

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    • Dave s says:

      I had never heard of Tom Daly. Is he a modern “celebrity”?

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      • pah says:

        He’s the round faced chap on Soccer AM who does the comedy and works under the alias ‘Rocket’.

        At least I think that is right …

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        In the Sun and the Star, he was popular with the girls.

        Now, in the Guardian and the BBC, he is popular with the boys.

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  5. DB says:

    R4 Today programme’s lead item this morning – failure of UK schools to improve standards in the OECD Pisa in the three years since the last tests.

    When the 2009 test results were released on 7 December 2010 showing UK performance tumbling down the tables, the Today programme didn’t cover the subject. Funny that.

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    • Dave s says:

      I see it this way. At last reality is dawning on the liberals. We are going down the pan in education. The east Asians have got us on the run. And now Burma, Vietnam etc will be catching up and passing us. It is only a matter of time now till this country slips into third world status. No wonder the elite wants immigrants.
      Fear. Fear of poverty. Of having to work to survive and the end of the liberal gravy train What will these useless people do. These so called teachers,social workers, arts admin and performers, the whiole panopoly of salaried middle classes who lack the basic skills need to survive. They have a huge sense of entitlement that will get them nowhere. They will come to envy the so called underclass. This class will know how to survive.
      Fifty years of refusing to face reality in the way we educate our young. The young are the future of any nation and have been betrayed by liberal idiots indulging their absurd dreams.
      No censure is strong enough for what these dreadful people have done to England.
      The worst generation in our history.

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  6. Fred Bloggs says:

    Failing to catch up on far east countries in education. This is the current breaking News24 headline about the PISA tests. It is far too early too see if the reforms are having an effect, but the bBC is falling behind Labour’s attack, as usual.

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  7. Not so thoughtful says:

    Can I be the first to say; the Tom Daley comments; new low.

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    • Dave s says:

      All I said was that I had never heard of him.Is this a thought crime now ?

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      • Stewart says:

        Yes comrade , it is

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      • Geoff says:

        As with the DT comments yesterday, it seems many would prefer discussion on this subject has to be closed down.

        Just as the Cornish B&B owners found out, only the ‘accepted’ view is allowed ….

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    • Stewart says:

      Perhaps ,’Not so thoughtful’, you should try bit of thought while restraining that knee. Other ‘keepers of the rainbow flame seem to have’ ,which is why your the first.
      The criticism is of the BBC making a big deal of something common place , perhaps your (self) righteous wrath should be aimed at them

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      • noggin says:

        T Daley … I think he s in perfect position to
        slide in (sorry) to a job, as a BBC sports presenter, and join the Tally Ho! chapter of sugar plum fairies, if only he was a black Somalian to boot, he could be Head of Sports.

        I ve said this before, he could dive in and swim all the way to fairyland for me … not interested.
        … just don t force T Daley down our throats

        oops!

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Can I be the first to say..
      Done and done. Lucky modding here is light touch, eh?
      Shame your post seems to have appeared in the middle of nowhere and specifies nothing specific.
      Have to say, a few overly robust and erring on the unnecessarily provocative phobic efforts have been prompted for my taste vs. valid querying of a national broadcaster’s ‘news’ priorities and newsworthiness endurance but, hey-ho, each to their own.
      Best to leave them to wither on the vine or, if truly outraged, tackle head on. Sniping in generalities elsewhere rather smacks of a lack of commitment, or other agendas.
      Speaking of comments on sites, were you one of those taking the chappie advocating murder to task, and thread hosts letting him, on the BBC FaceBook page about the Thai riots.?
      Do share which one you were.

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    • David Kay says:

      looking at the jokes on http://www.sickipedia.org, from over a year ago, everyone knew Tom Daley was gay. i like this one

      “Whilst supporting Mo Farah in the Olympic Stadium last night, I decided to bring a banner with the fashionable ‘Go Mo’ written on it.

      That way, when I headed over to support Tom Daley afterwards, all I had to do was replace the ‘G’ with a ‘H.'”

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      • Maturecheese says:

        LOL just pinched that one for my FB status

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      • Andy S. says:

        What pisses me off is the way th right-on media, including the BBC, are portraying Daley as a “Hero” for admitting his homosexuality.

        No, BBC, Daley is not a “hero”. A hero is someone who selflessly puts his or her own life at risk to benefit others i.e. a soldier facing withering gunfire trying to save a comrade, a person or fireman who rushes into a burning building to save a child’s life.

        Someone who puts out a home made video to tell us he’s dating another bloke smacks of being self obsessed, NOT heroic!

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        • Dave s says:

          Liberal heroism is not the same as the heroism you describe. The liberal is heroic by virtue of his or her’s liberalism.
          Soon they will be giving each other medals for slapping a UKIP member’s face or something similar.

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          • Llareggub says:

            Daley wants to talk about his sex life. Perhaps he could tell his admirers in the BBC if his partner has a big one.

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  8. Geoff says:

    Was sat in my local motor dealership this morning, they had BBC News on but with no sound. I was only waiting for a minute or two but two stories caught my eye.
    The first about mobile phone charges and as always (just in case we don’t know what someone using a mobile phone looks like) the BBC used stock film footage and all three individuals shown were non indigenous, drip, drip, drip. Mind you it does seem that immigrants are more often than not gabbling away on a mobile when walking through our enriched streets.

    The following was a story about immigration in Peterborough, as I said there was no sound so not sure what the tone of discussion was, but just viewing both items depicting high streets in the UK was bloody depressing.

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  9. Llareggub says:

    Another ‘But Labour says’. On education.
    ‘But Labour’s Labour’s Shadow Education Secretary, Tristram Hunt, said the Pisa results were a “big wake-up call” and evidence of a failure to meet the “international challenge”.

    Mr Hunt said that high performing Asian school systems reflected the “quality and status of the teaching profession”

    Now who are these Asians? Are these the Asians who are reported as being responsible for child grooming and raping, banning girls from education? Are these Asians from Pakistan? If not they must be the other Asians who get tagged along with the pedos.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25187997

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Now who are these Asians?’
      Fair question.
      Seems a bit ‘variable’, depending who is reporting or what is being reported upon.
      At risk of being mown down by Lord Ahmed next time he’s out and about testing the limo’s Bluetooth, in true BBC style, I offer a possible answer via this ‘people are saying’ several degree of separation report sent this way via my Singaporean correspondent (OK, an Aunty):
      ‘Parvinder and Habib are beggars. They beg in different areas of London. Habib begs just as long as Parvinder but only collects £2 to £3 every day. Parvinder brings home a suitcase FULL of £10 notes, drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage-free house and has a lot of money to spend.

      Habib says to Parvinder: “I work just as long and hard as you do but how do you bring home a suitcase full of £10 notes every day?”

      Parvinder says: “Look at your sign, what does it say?”

      Habib’s sign reads: “I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support”.

      Parvinder says: “No wonder you only get £2- £3”

      Habib says: “So what does your sign say”?

      Parvinder shows Habib his sign… It reads: “I only need another £10 to move back to Pakistan”
      I was, of course, outraged on behalf of the entire country.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Luckily she has already recognised the potentially ∞(there are so many now)’ist slur from the inference that the majority of British folk are not truly welcoming of all new visitors enhancing this fair isle.

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  10. AsISeeIt says:

    The BBC/NUT Left-liberal faction got their first shot in on last night’s BBC TV News.

    Report from South Korea about high education standards… but… but…. but…. stressed out kids and high suicide rate.

    Expect the left to pick up on the hint from the BBC and run with this argument as a counter to demands for pushing up standards.

    I have found it quite remarkable how consistently and how often in the past those Left-leaning voices on BBC vox pops, debate shows and phone-ins have regurgitated the bite sized slogans previously aired on the BBC.

    Bedroom Tax
    Cost of Living Crisis

    now wait for something along the lines of Undue Pressure on Kids to Achieve

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  11. George R says:

    “And now on the BBC, it’s Gary Barlow… ALL day!

    “Corporation’s ‘publicity blitz’ for new album which will see him interviewed THREE times.
    “Mr Barlow’s new album, Since I Saw You Last, came out in November.
    “Extensive on-air coverage is planned for Wednesday December 11.
    “BBC guidelines warn against promoting products ‘unfairly.’
    “Commercial radio rivals, whose ad revenues could be hit, say they will be listening carefully.”
    By SIMON CABLE

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516894/Gary-Barlow-day-long-publicity-blitz-BBC.html#ixzz2mPvxlAZ7
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      He’s supposed to be a Tory, isn’t he? That evens out the bias for the next 12 months.

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  12. George R says:

    Reporting the case of Islamic jihad fascist murder of Lee Rigby:-

    1.) ‘Daily Mail’:-

    “Chilling images capture moment one of Lee Rigby’s ‘killers calmly walked into Argos to buy a set of knives and sharpening kit – the day before soldier was hacked to death.’
    “Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale accused of ‘hacking him to death.’
    “CCTV footage shows Adebolajo buying five knives in branch of Argos.
    “Images also show the suspected Islamic terrorist filling his car with petrol.
    “Drummer Rigby was knocked down and ‘almost decapitated.’
    “Witness Cheralee Armstrong yelled at pair to stop but got ‘blank expression.’
    “‘It seemed like they were trying to remove organs from his torso,’ she said.
    “Mr Rigby’s widow ran from court in tears as his death was described.
    “Witnesses told court the men ‘behaved like animals’ during killing.
    “Both deny Lee Rigby’s murder and conspiracy to murder a police officer.”
    By CHRIS GREENWOOD, ARTHUR MARTIN and MARTIN ROBINSON

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516910/Chilling-images-capture-moment-Lee-Rigbys-killers-calmly-walked-Argos-buy-set-knives-sharpening-kit–day-soldier-hacked-death.html#ixzz2mPzWmQ6C
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    2.) BBC-NUJ:-

    “Lee Rigby trial: Police officer says she feared for her life”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25198859

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  13. Thoughtful says:

    Giving credence to stories which probably shouldn’t have any!

    How close would you need to be to clearly identify a small object held in someone’s hand?

    How comfortable would you be with the testimony of someone who was on the 9th floor of a tower block (30 Metres high) and some distance away being able to positively identify a mobile phone in someone’s hand?

    Yet that is exactly what the BBC have done – almost certainly because the story suits their far left views and the person in question is Mark Duggan.

    He was shot just after 6:00pm in August, so no chance of it being dark and seeing a lit screen. The taxi was a Toyota Previa people carrier and Duggan exited on the passenger side according to the driver, a tall vehicle, there would have been no chance of anyone seeing what he was holding in his hand from a building on the opposite side of the road, he then ran away before being shot by the Police.

    We know Duggan owned a gun and that it was supplied by Kevin Hutchinson-Foster who was convicted of supplying it to him.

    This is not a simple investigation however, and the BBC have taken sides against the Police.

    The only 9 story building which is close is 100 Metres away from the scene and is student accommodation. As what has become a political show trial of the armed officers it is vitally important we know background about these so called ‘witnesses’ and any axes they might have to grind.

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  14. Rtd Colonel says:

    Check out this argument about the future of our state broadcaster at the excellent Standpoint magazine.
    http://standpointmag.co.uk/features-december-13-scrap-the-licence-fee-and-privatise-the-bbc-tim-congdon?page=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C5

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    • Guest Who says:

      And it looks like someone on station got in PDQ with the first snark of winter.
      If the calibre of argument being deployed there is the best the BBC’s finest can come up with, their inevitable demise may be nearer than one dares hope.
      ‘No mention of quality or impartiality or trust. No mention that Sky costs its customers as much in a month as the BBC charges for a year AND it takes advertising. No mention of cosy backroom deals between Murdochs minions and Cameron. ‘
      Given a few spare moments when not doing this as the day job, some soul may indeed add mention of impartiality and trust, BBC style.
      They may even mention Sky’s costs are voluntary, atop those imposed by force to uniquely fund the BBC. Who fills 24/7 dead air with self-promos that are just as much ads. Or fills supposedly public-serving slots with mates-rates suck-up fare. Come on down… Gary Barlow!
      And then they may even make mention of every miserable in-secret, internal, redacted back room deal made by the BBC with itself and any parties it thinks will serve its purposes.
      And then this cretin may regret mentioning anything at all.

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    • Dave s says:

      Very good indeed. Privatising the BBC is the only way it will survive. We are expected to live with globalisation. The BBc must as well.
      The currrent leadership is simply not up to the job of runnning it as a tax extorted outfit.
      Selling it off will bring new ideas and new people.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I find that the words ‘trust’ and/or ‘transparency’ often get invoked by the BBC or its defenders at such times.
      These two URLs offer hints on why I and possibly others may find such mutually-reassuring claims to be less convincing outside the bubble:
      http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/tim-pipped.html
      ‘Auntie swerved the big question, saying it would take longer than the rules allow to collate the information.’
      Imagine a CEO or pol trying that one on a Paxo?
      http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/crackdown.html
      ‘Their FOI response avoids answering the question’
      That seems to be a unique facility the BBC enjoys a wee bit too often vs. other entities.

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  15. #88 says:

    VD Again!

    It’s my own fault that I keep listening, but sometimes it’s just too compelling…but this morning it seemed quite safe, just an innocuous phone-in to listen in on, on my way back down from Birmingham Airport, about people last helping others; holding the door open, picking up a glove, helping install a TV, talking to an old lady in a supermarket.

    ‘Please ring in and tell us when you last helped someone’, she said. And boy did VD eventually hit gold…a man rang in to tell of his help for a penniless family with food, but not only that, uninterrupted…completely uninterrupted, this phone-in about goodness and kindness suddenly turned into a facilitated diatribe about the ‘nasty party’, about benefits, about the poor and how benefits cuts had been ‘weaponised’ by the Tories.

    She could have moved on, or brought him back to the subject but VD being VD didn’t. The language and sloganising said that the phone-in had been hijacked by a ‘political activist’, or more cynically it had the feel of the usual VD choreography. At that point, I was happy to see Cherwell Valley services. If Stephen Nolan does nothing for a good night’s sleep, VD is certainly not conducive to road safety.

    Of course we will never know the caller, or the circumstances, or if the family really existed, but the BBC have a track record in taking a individual story and presenting it as the norm. Those stories, though, as was found to be the case with the ‘Spare Room Subsidy’ outrages that the BBC (and Sky) agitated on last week, are never quite what they seem, once the facts are in the open. Not that the BBC would ever offer a retraction.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/localgovernment/2013/11/spare-room-subsidy-why-hasnt-stephen-pounds-brother-asked-for-discretionary-housing-payment.html

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      I am still happily enjoying my boycott of BBC 5 Live.

      I think it was Evelyn Waugh who described some radio political commentary as sounding like a ‘stream of raucous misinformation’

      5 live to a tee

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  16. DB says:

    BBC News field producer Simon Dedman has been tweeting about OECD Pisa rankings today. Read through, paying particular attention to the last tweet:

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Simon Dedman – another unwitting victim of our shite education system.

      Ironic, or what.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      It’s a sign of low intelligence and ignorance only if Sarah Palin does it.

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  17. Fred Bloggs says:

    Rustbridger getting a roasting from Ellis, oh it’s being shown by Sky. Does bBC news 24 have it on live, embarrass the Labour-Guardian-bBC triumvirate?

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  18. Philip says:

    Here we go again.
    Main midday news: Today BBC TWAO (3/12/13) the main report that the UK education attainment ranks UK at 20th in international (edicational) league tables in all all three main core subjects (Reading Science and Maths). No BBC suggestion that this was designed by Ed Balls (whilst at DCSF) and the (NUT’s) Teachers Union that help undermine all state school education for Marx.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100248732/oecd-education-report-child-poverty-cant-be-blamed-for-the-failings-of-british-schools/

    The PISA report today confirms my own teaching experience in education that children do much better in a traditional stable family unit with a longer school day (or lots more homework). This report indicates it has nothing to do with low class status, benefits, race or relative poverty, only effective and better tuition (not from just qualified Teachers either but outside industrialists and real world teachers and not social service robots of NUTs state approval). This upset the nuts at NUT (National Union of Teachers) who want ‘standardised’ Labour teaching methods taught that have failed our children in ‘Reading, Maths and Science’. I clearly remember Labour introducing ‘Phonetics’ as a (compulsory) reading teaching aid. I knew it was a disaster – yet is still mandatory taught in all Primary Schools. Teachers must follow the curriculum (or be removed) all changed by Labours’ Ed Balls (then Minister of DCSF) to create and integrate a new subject PHSE (Physical Health and Sex Education – as a new school subject), (which was never part of the National Curricullum designed by Kenneth Baker (in the 1980s) who saw no academic value in PHSE as a subject as it appeared to promote child sexuality from an early age).

    Last week nobody took BBC Prof Ashton (last week) seriously, however the BBC meanwhile did NOT report that another (sexual agenda bill) in a closely related EU campaign has just been approved by the EU plenary (final reading) to destroy family life via Ed Balls educational polices developed by his socialist teaching chums (mainly NUT’s ). He may of lost the UK general election, but his spirit lives on in the EU policy camp. We will all learn (by the BBC) that all UK children will now be taught explicit sexual acts in primary school and gender (re)assignment from age 4. I kid you NOT: this is now going to be EU policy from now on. The BBC naturally will full approve of this socialist objective. The BBC may not claim credit ‘on air’ but I suspect the French Champage will all be flowing again. This EU laws (when enabled on December 10th) will ensure that all UK parents (and families) must comply with EU state gender/sex indoctrination from aged 4+ the parent (if refusing) risks imprisonment.

    You heard it here first. The BBC will no doubt follow shortly with a report on how it benefits families and how the Swedish system can benefit the UK teaching system with more state regulation. Only last week the BBC promoted Prof Ashton as an ‘expert’ on lowering the age of consent from 16 to 14 (and what joyful benefits that could be for the nation). The BBC knew all right.

    If you think your toddler is safe just see here what is about to be ‘approved’ by the EU socialists now (with full BBC approval, there will be no escape from EU education perversions (in or out of BBC).
    http://www.europeandignitywatch.org/day-to-day/detail/article/update-estrela-report-adopted-in-committee-back-on-the-plenary-agenda-for-december-10.html

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  19. Big Dick says:

    The Evil Rusbridger is being grilled by a Select Committee of MP`s ,only live on Sky ,says it all . Glad to see him on the rack, the PC little creep.Meanwhile in Al news 24 land , they are still “live ” from outside a Glasgow pub !

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    • Milverton says:

      I haven’t seen any of it carried live on the BBC News channel yet.

      Rusbridger is bad enough, but Shami is sat behind him nodding like a dog every time he opens his mouth. Revolting.

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      • Guest Who says:

        I can only presume it works in the focus groups, but the slightly pensive, contemplative, serious, repetitive supportive nod of agreement seems a feature of any mass Red Square balcony outing these days.
        It’s truly awful in Parliamentary clips, when the front rows of benches behind speakers often look like a bobble-head display in a slo-mo earthquake.
        Better yet is when they forget the cameras and switch off.. or back on.

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      • Geoff says:

        And the irony of a Indian (born in Aden) asking a Zambian in the British House of Commons if he loves this country ….

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  20. Daniel says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25201471

    Apparently, all of our problems can be solved by an egalitarian distribution of wealth, comprehensive education, and the lenient sentencing/de facto decriminalisation of drugs. Well, there you go…

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    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘In his eyes – as well as those of many Icelanders I spoke with – equality was the biggest reason for the nation’s relative lack of crime.’

      Relentless.

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  21. Ian Rushlow says:

    Mono good, multi bad. In the light of the first ever instance of police shooting someone dead, a thoughtful article on the BBC website ponders why Iceland has such a low crime rate (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25201471). It’s a difficult question for them; after all, Iceland has one of the highest levels of gun ownership in the World and we all know what that leads to don’t we, which is why the Left and their BBC spokespersons are so opposed to private guns. Another sacred cow has to be sacrificed, too, as it seems that illegal drug use is very low in Iceland (we all know that decriminalising drugs is a good idea, right?). To try and address the balance, the article points out that “First – and arguably foremost – there is virtually no difference among upper, middle and lower classes in Iceland. And with that, tension between economic classes is non-existent, a rare occurrence for any country.” Ah, that’s more like it. If only we had a socialist economy where everyone is the same (except for the super rich, globalists and liberals) there would be no crime at all. But there’s something else that the article has strangely omitted: Iceland is a monocultural country. It has not been “enriched” through immigration; most of the immigrants that have arrived have come from the Nordic countries, Western Europe and America (around 80%, see http://www.statice.is/lisalib/getfile.aspx?ItemID=9077 – sorry it’s mainly in Icelandic). Those that come often do so to work on specific engineering projects and are expected to comply with local customs and manners, even if they do not assimilate. Just a thought…

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  22. Thoughtful says:

    Asian student have come out on top in the latest study.

    Giving the impression because the fascists inability to describe Pakistanis as what they are that it is them who have come out on top.

    Typical of the disingenuous nature of the BBC

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  23. Pounce says:

    How the bBC can only remake the guilty as…innocent victims
    Mark Duggan ‘was surrendering’ when shot
    Mark Duggan appeared to be surrendering when he was shot by police in Tottenham, north London, an inquest into his death has heard.

    Now lets hear what the person in question saw:
    He said “When I saw him he was on the sidewalk and he tried to run off towards Tottenham Hale but there was a police officer there so he turned around towards Blackhorse Road.” Ashley Underwood QC counsel to the inquest, asked Witness B: “Could you see his hands?”
    Jurors visited the scene of the shooting in Ferry Lane
    He replied: “Yes. It looked like a phone clutched in his hands. And he had his hands up above his shoulders near his face. This was when he was running towards Blackhorse Road.

    So let me get this right, he ran in one direction and then turned and rang in another away from the law and to the bBC that is enough to headline that this black thug who just happened to be travelling in a taxis with a gun in the direction of two men who just been released by the Old Bill that very day on charges of murdering his best friend.

    Cry me a river, the best thing that could have happened happened he got slotted . Mind you didn’t take long for the third world population of London to riot as only the third world can. Thanks bBC for telling me I am a racist for objecting to having all the worlds scum come to a life of benefits in the UK. Hopefully one will murder the family of a bBC reporter.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I saw Mark Duggan carrying a sub machine gun and a rocket propelled grenade. I was 200 miles away at the time but I’m sure of what I saw.

      Now of course that’s never going to get on the BBC, not because I was so far away, but because they don’t like incriminating evidence.

      If you go back to my previous post you will see that the Biased bunch have conveniently missed out just how far away this so called ‘witness’ actually was, but he has said exactly what the far left BBC want to hear in support of their show trial.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        We now hear that this ‘witness’ from a great distance was able to identify the model of the phone as a ‘blackberry’ ! He gave some mobile phone video evidence to the BBC because he didn’t trust the Police !

        His evidence was also brought into some doubt when his original statement said that he thought it was a gun !

        For most of the day the BBC have selectively reported this evidence as being absolutely positively that it was a mobile phone and without any regard as to the distance, or the previous statement. They have sought to deliberately mislead those people viewing the web site and listening to radio news. It was only in the evening when they managed to put this right which is truly shameful.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Possibly… more the brand?
          Though as you suggest the model number appears well within the capabilities of this witness, and very possibly the serial number within the case.
          Have to say, given your account, the BBC’s faith in the testimony of this witness seems at a level they do reserve for those confirming their preferred version of certain febrile events.

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          • Thoughtful says:

            Scratch the gave the footage to the BBC, it now turns out he sold it to them !

            Quite shocking what the biased use of licence payers money will pay for. Seeing as this has not seen the light of day on a web site or the news, one might be forgiven for wondering why the BBC bought it and the accountability for the money spent.

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  24. onlyne says:

    Caught the tail end of Today on Radio 4 this morning, a programme I now rarely listen to. The item was an interview with an ill educated but deeply committed fellow who’s premise was that Africans have been an essential part of the UK for centures. So, apparently in the 18th century many people employed African demomestic servants. And Catherine of Arragon brought Moors with her when she arrived in England to marry Henry VII (he did not seem to understand the distinction beyweeen Moors, ie people from Mediterranean north Africa, who were in control in Southern Spain at the time, and people, from for example, Nigeria). He also told how in the reign of Elizabeth I laws were passed against Africans in England (or Moors). He knew about this because he had rightly interpretted documents which until now had been misunderstood! All this went unchallenged, and was only brought to an end by the programme running out of time. But it ticked all the right boxes for the Today presenters and editor.

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    • onlyne says:

      That should be Henry VIII! sorry.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      See the earlier post from this morning !

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    • Buggy says:

      The Moors weren’t in control of southern Spain by then, since the completion of the Reconquista under Catherine’s parents, and the aftermath of the Morisco revolt in 1500, had reduced their numbers to impotent levels. This also makes it very unlikely that there’d have been Moors hanging about the court let alone travelling in Catherine’s retinue.

      In the immortal words of Denis Leary: I call bullshit on that one.

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  25. Thoughtful says:

    Now the BBC is complaining that the government has cut the green levy on utility bills and blaming British gas for it !

    Talk about not doing right for doing wrong ! There is no doubt that the Tories attacked the poor over the insulation issue while preserving the incomes for the very wealthy. Camerons father in law will still get his £350 000 a year courtesy of the rest of us.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    For balance.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25205170
    Seems the guy’s death depends on who issues a report.
    That said, some media reports of reports did appear to err on pushing speculative claims by 3rd parties pretty high up the totem, even when unproven.
    It will be interesting which version, broadcast most often, and by whom, resonates more around the region.

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  27. Oldbob says:

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I am sick and tired of the endless stream of reports by the drones this week from Bulgaria and Romania, trying to convince us that there will not be a problem come January and implying that we are being paranoid. Now they are in the Medway towns, where there is a substantial Bulgarian “community” and there are “concerns” that there might be another influx, but apparently these are unfounded as the local councils are “prepared”. Just for good measure they then inform us that there have also been some suggestions of “racism”.

    Just what is it that the f**kwits who produce this banal and insulting garbage don’t understand about that the majority of the UK population, who were treated with utter contempt by Labour, who unleashed this on going invasion without any consent from them, have now finally drawn a line in the sand. The clock is ticking and there will be a shitstorm of anger, the likes of which the left wing clowns at the BBC have never experienced …….I hope they enjoy it…..I know I certainly will !

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    • David Kay says:

      The Beeb keep going on about the so called economic benefits of immigration, or migration as they call it. Even if that was true, my countries identity and heritage are priceless. Not that the traitors at the BBC would understand that

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  28. Dazed & Confused says:

    How the hell can a so called “anti Fascist” grouping, be looking to scupper the chances of UKIP in next years Euro elections?….How are UKIP deemed to be “far right”?….And by who?….The Communist left? ….And how can these militant leftist grouping that themselves don’t believe in democracy, (hence they don’t stand for election), be openly allowed to scupper the chances of a popular British party?….Why are the BBC totally silent on such wilful and poisonous gerrymandering?

    http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/3228/yorkshire-organising

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  29. Thoughtful says:

    I can imagine the fuming at the NUT HQ over the result of the Pisa tests.
    I mean don’t they understand just how important it is to test for the correct amount of left wing political indoctrination? And how much effort this takes away from teaching the trivia that are the three ‘R’s ?

    They just don’t realise that other countries don’t have such a problem with ‘racism’ after all it’s only the white people who can be ‘racist’ and it takes a lot out of the teaching day convincing children that they are morally good for nothing and that they owe the world for something that white people did 200 year + ago.

    It just isn’t fair !

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    • John Anderson says:

      I have just seen a textbook for Year 7 History – the first year at secondary school.

      3 topics. First is the Romans. Second topic is England in the Middle Ages around 1066.

      Three guesses for the 3rd topic.

      You guessed it first time. It’s “Islam and how wonderful it was”

      It really is getting worse. This was not a topic in Key Stage 3 History a couple of years ago.

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      • Dave s says:

        So bad is the state system now even in the shires that home schooling must be on every parent’s list of possibilities.
        It is difficult but the alternative is allowing your child to be the victim of what amounts to indoctrination.

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  30. Chilli says:

    BBC News 24 report at 6pm on the global education league tables that show UK doing poorly and Wales the worst UK region.

    To illustrate the situation in England the BBC chose to visit a Birmingham school that was ‘doing well’ with a class composed of entirely non-white children of muslim/ pakistani origin.

    Then to illustrate a poorly performing class in Wales they pick a school with 95% white faces.

    Coincidence or intentional subliminal messaging?

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    • Dave666 says:

      Didn’t see that, but this is a standard BBc tactic watch out for it in the future. Bad education story is often accompanied by video of mainly white kids Good educational stories normally are accompanied by video of mixed or non white kids. Don’t believe it..just keep your eyes open.

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    • Dave666 says:

      Didn’t see that story, but this is a standard BBc tactic and has been going on for some time.

      Good education stories are accompanied by video of mainly white kids. Bad educational stories have video of mixed or non-white kids.

      Just keep watching now you know you’ll spot it again and again.

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      • Anne says:

        It’s not just the BBC that does this, although I think they set the tone.

        Around Remembrance Day, footage of the soil arriving from Flanders first of all showed one of the few black members of the Royal Horse Artillery in the forefront handling the bags. Then later, on HMS Belfast, we see a black squaddie doing something similar, nearest to the camera. Then, just in case we hadn’t got the message, a later shot from an entirely different angle shows him again, out in front, but in an entirely different position.

        This sort of thing happens far too often to put down to chance. I wonder how the others feel.

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        • flexdream says:

          It’s actually patronising and racist to promote pictures of Black soldiers like that. It’s not news that there are Black soldiers and doesn’t need to be trumpeted.

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  31. Dave666 says:

    So North West Tonight had a poll and the majority decided they were in favour of fracking. End of story. I thought not and surprise I was right. Still banging on about fracking. Yes lets give ill informed dip switches a platform to be famous for 5 seconds (well in their imagination) blah blah blah. This will run and run as the BBc has it’s own little agenda here. Curse those people who voted in favour.

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  32. lojolondon says:

    Anyone wanting to see ‘news’ about the Editor of the Guardian facing a parliamentary enquiry to clarify his earlier denials that he send secret government material abroad will be disappointed if they look on the biased BBC for their news –
    Only ‘1% of Snowden files published’ is the heading. The article contains lots of AlanR said this, that and the other, almost no allegations against him. Like when you report one side of any trial, he comes out looking pretty good, and the reader may wonder what all the fuss was about!

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  33. DB says:

    Cum-lined?

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  34. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Hey, here’s a Tory policy the BBC can support wholeheartedly:

    Documents reveal British banned Geller and Spencer because of their ‘pro-Israeli views’

    Open support for Israel is a banning offense according to your government. Combine this with Dez and his ilk describing Melanie Phillips’ statement of support for Israel against Iran as “a caricature of a swivel-eyed loon”, and we get a rather ugly picture of the conventional wisdom of Britain. Even the hated Mail had to draw the line at her open support for Israel eventually.

    This bit is particularly revealing, and vindicates my past statements about the bogus reasoning behind banning Geert Wilders as well:

    The “sub” is the “Subject Profile” – one was drawn up on each of us. There is no way to tell how much about our being pro-Israel was removed, but mine still says, “She strongly supports Israel and is an ardent Zionist.” And also: “Pamela Geller’s outspoken support for Israel may also attract pro-Palestinian groups to attend, further complicating the policing operation on the ground and making it harder to keep opposing groups apart.”

    The BBC and the government claimed that Wilders’ presence would incite violence, but they never said from whom. We know who’d get violent, though, and so do the government and the BBC. So they choose to lie about it instead.

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  35. John Anderson says:

    The BBC continues to present all the White House pap about how the ObamaCare website is improving, how it will all be OK in the end.

    But to me it still looks pretty doomed. A lot of experts have pointed out that the claimed improvements in the website that were promised for end-November have failed to tackle the back-end problems – you may be able to access the site with fewer glitches, but even if you go through all the enrollment procedure, review possible policies and then THINK you have committed to a particular insurer, a lot of these insurers are saying that what they then get is often full of errors – or does not arrive at all. A lot of people who need to be covered by 1 January will not be covered – even if they are willing to pay the much higher costs than their old policies required.

    As well as this “back-end” problem – the effort has been on making the front-end that the user sees work better – there continue to be a lot of bad stories about serious security gaps and threats.

    In the Washington Post (of all places) here is an article that lists some key numbers and targets. The whole thing is like a steeplechase – jumping some of the hurdles is not enough, you have to jump them all for ObamaCare to be seen as succeeding. It looks like there are very very serious problems down the line, in spite of Obama’s attempts to delay the various evil deadlines. So forget all the PR gloss over the weekend. The Democrats are still in very deep trouble on ObamaCare, they could lose control of the Senate next November, as ObamaCare is an albatross round their necks.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-for-democrats-in-2014-the-web-site-is-not-the-problem/2013/12/02/814983bc-5b55-11e3-bf7e-f567ee61ae21_story.html

    None of this comes through in BBC reporting. I wonder why ?

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    • John Anderson says:

      It is all reminiscent of the calamity even the mighty IBM faced when they were trying to introduce their 360 series computers fifty years ago. The software got into a dreadful mess, and they kidded themselves that it could all be sorted out simply by throwing hundreds more people at the problem. But more people actually made the tangle even worse – as recorded in a classic book “The Myth of the Man-Month”. In the end IBM had to start all over again. And methinks that is what is needed with ObamaCare, at least in computer-technical terms.

      But polls are showing that 50% or more Americans don’t want it “fixed” in a band-aid sort of way – they want the whole POLICY to be started again. A complete re-think. Because the President lied when he promised that everyone could keep their old policies and their doctors, and that costs would be lower all round.

      It would be up to the Republicans to come forward with policies that Obama rejected – like having inter-state competition between the insurance companies, a crackdown on the excessive litigation of medical cases and so on. But in the meanwhile I think ObamaCare will twist in the wind.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The BBC is in lock-step with Ezra Klein and David Plouffe. They need to make the website the ObamaCare story itself. As long as everyone’s focused on the website, they can keep spinning away the reality of just how destructive the myriad details of the law really are, and continue to push the lies about how ObamaCare is really going to leave the vast majority of people better off. Mardell has already told a blatant lie about how ObamaCare only inadvertently and unexpectedly caused many people to lose their coverage, which unfortunately created the impression that the President lied.

      Klein and the NY Times and the WaPo know the website must be the story and that if the website works they can win the Narrative about ObamaCare the law and about the larger Government-Is-Just-What-We-All-Do-Together agenda because they meet with the President and His staff to coordinate the message. And the BBC journalists and editors dutifully follow their thought leaders.

      What’s so fascinating – and sad – to watch is all these world-class, highly-paid, journalists at elite institutions working so hard to redefine one step above total disaster as success. If they can keep pushing through to the next news cycle, another distraction will come along, and they don’t have to admit the postponements are all kicking the ObamaCare reality can down the road until after the 2014 midterms.

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  36. John Anderson says:

    Hey that’s unfair ! Lots of websites and bloggers (including Mark Steyn) seem to be referring back to the BBC’s reports in 2007 that the Arctic would be entirely free of ice by now. Whereas there has been a huge increase in the ice – with lots of signes that we could be approaching global cooling :

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/arctic_ice_cap_grows_29_in_one_year.html

    Has Harrabin started panicking yet about global cooling, demanding we all pay billions to other countries to help out ?

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  37. flexdream says:

    If you ever think ‘is it just me’ that thinks the BBC is biased, then it’s always useful to remember it isn’t just you.

    More people think BBC has bias to left than bias to right – poll
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/nov/03/bbc-left-right-poll

    “Around 41% think the BBC displays some bias. Of these, 27% say it leans to the left and 14% say it favours the right. Overall, 37% of people polled think the corporation is neutral in its news reporting while 26% do not know.”

    So more people think the BBC is biased than think it is neutral, and more people think it is biased to the left than biased to the right. That’s quite an indictment given that no-one living in Britain can remember a time before the BBC, which has always had unparalleled domination of news over the airwaves.

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  38. Rtd Colonel says:

    Monday Bloody Monday!

    Anyone asked Gerry or Martin about this – or are only the Evil UK Security Forces capable of such bad behaviour?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/northernireland/10492655/Irish-police-colluded-in-RUC-officers-murder-report-finds.html

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    • flexdream says:

      The Irish state is to be congratulated on setting up this tribunal which has issued an uncomfortable and therefore surely accurate report.

      When can we expect the BBC Panorama special report?

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  39. thoughtful says:

    “The Police shooting of Mark Duggan which led to days of rioting.”

    No! what led to the organised looting of city centres was the result of mass immigration and a number of criminal elements.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Huw Edwards boldly tells me on BBC1 10 o’clock news that the shooting of Duggan ’caused’ the riots.

      BBC news editors are now almost completely out of control – writing a Leftist history for us as they go along.

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    • Chilli says:

      The main cause of the riots was the softly-softly kid gloves ‘protest enabling’ stand-back-and-watch approach adopted by the Police on the first night – caused by 13 years of Labour brainwashing, diversity awareness and social cohesion training. Or, as one thug put it in an SMS discussing plans to go looting with friends: ” The five-oh ain’t on dis ting”

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  40. thoughtful says:

    Obama relaunching Obamacare because of technical difficulties?

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  41. flexdream says:

    “I don’t think the public realises the seriousness of the problem. The penny hasn’t dropped. But Syria is a game-changer. We are seeing it every day. You have hundreds of people going to Syria, and if they don’t get killed they get radicalised. So it’s the impact when they come back”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10492997/Hundreds-of-British-jihadists-in-Syria.html

    With all due respect to the Met’s head of counter terrorism I think the public does ‘get it’ despite Dave Cameron saying it has nothing to do with Islam and the BBC sharing his agenda.

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  42. Chris says:

    How to edit the BBC website
    1) ALWAYS Include an article regarding Labour and/ or Obama in a positive light (make sure LABOUR and/or OBAMA are prominent in all titles).
    2) Have an aritcle regarding conservatives, without mentioning conservatives in the title.
    3) include some multicultural/ immigration lies by Mark Easton with a picture of the Notting hill carnival.
    4) maybe include some rambling shit by Will Self if he can take his head out of his arse long enough to write something.
    5) include something about gayness, preferably foreign (e.g lesbian sumo wrestlers or gay highdivers)
    6) include some muslim crap (preferably something in a cartoon because all people who fail to see muslims as wonderful enrichers are thick and have the mental age of a toddler.)
    7) finish off with an article regarding how some one is suffering incredible racism on twitter from “potentially” white people.
    8) smear anyone right wing as “hitler” or “nazi” when possible despite Hitler and the nazis being socialist*
    (bin all other reports which come your way regarding muslim orphan rape gangs, white flight, anything bad about labour, anything proving that non eu migration has cost the UK 100 billion odd, Muslim terroism, racism against white people etc etc).
    *http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html
    Can give a further break down of how Hitler was socialist, and was informed by marxism if anyone is interested!

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  43. cargo says:

    In case anyone missed the broadcasts, check this bBC link to a dozen podcasts about the Golden Age Of Islam.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/essay

    Bet you can image how chuffed I am that my £145 pays for this. Also, don’t hold your breath waiting for a series called “The Golden Age of Christianity” or “The Golden Age of Budhism” or “The Golden Age of Hinduism”.

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    • John Anderson says:

      That’s a dozen podcasts SO FAR. The series will run to 20 broadcasts. And whereas programmes are usually left up on iPlayer for just 7 days, the broadcasts so far of this series are marked to stay up for a full month.

      Also – this is not a series by just one speaker. There are a host of individual speakers for the series. It has obviously been a big production number.

      With such a big series – as far as I can see the BBC has not invited a single dissenting voice. Even though there are many reasons to dissent from the myth of the Golden Age.

      Agenda ? What agenda ?

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    • David Brims says:

      I wonder if they’ll invite Dr Bill Warner to give a talk on ” the wonderful world of islam.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0W0yqfdg54

      As a side note, I think their architecture is quite cheap, bling and ugly, the kind of thing Liberace would build.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moschee-Keizerstraat-Suriname.jpg

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