A couple of years ago the BBC insisted that Christians were thriving in the Middle East…even in Gaza where they apparently got on splendidly with Hamas…the only problem was those disagreeable Israelis ruining Christmas in Bethlehem.
Recently we had this from the BBC:
Are there really 100,000 new Christian martyrs every year?
Not of course concerned about Christians but intended to quash any suggestions that it might be Muslims slaughtering those Christians.
“This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense.”
Guess it is just bad luck that a Muslim, Baroness Warsi no less, who claims that:
Christians ‘face extinction’ amid sectarian terror, minister warns
Exclusive: violence against Christian minorities is now a “global crisis” as worshippers are driven out of their ancient homelands by militants, a senior minister warns
“There are parts of the world today where to be a Christian is to put your life in danger,” she writes. “From continent to continent, Christians are facing discrimination, ostracism, torture, even murder, simply for the faith they follow.
“Christian populations are plummeting and the religion is being driven out of some of its historic heartlands…..
Violence against Christian worshippers and other religious minorities by fanatics has become a “global crisis” and is the gravest challenge facing the world this century.
What’s worse, from the BBC’s point of view, is that she compares the killers and persecutors to the Nazis and Communists:
It is the same mindset that motivated the Nazis to persecute the Jews and the Communists to suppress the Russian church, she says.
How will the BBC report Warsi’s words? There will be a short run through of what she said before a stream of contrary opinions criticising her comments…followed by examples of how other groups are equally oppressed, if not more so, possibly by Christians, than the Christians.
In other words they will try to subtly rubbish…undermine… her claims.
Just watched the news apparently Muslims are the real victims in Sri Lanka . Must be true as the bBC had somebody saying he was going to get killed today ,tomorrow.
I am very impressed by what Baroness Warsi has said as reported in the Telegraph, which echoes what the last two or three Archbishops of Canterbury and the Pope have been saying. So far the BBC doesn’t seem to think her words are worth reporting. The BBC seems more interested in criticising the numbers claimed for martyred Christians. According to the BBC’s account there are no Christians martyred in North Korea, so this report must be false http://au.christiantoday.com/article/christians-among-those-killed-in-mass-public-executions-across-north-korea-for-possession-of-bibles/16478.htm
The BBC will be torn, Baroness Warsi is a female Muslim – which is a plus, but she is also a Conservative and sympathetic to the plight of persecuted Christians – which is a minus. The BBC should simply report her words without comment or interpretation or spin, but I’m not hopeful. Or maybe it will simply disappear as the BBC continues to lead with attacks on Sri Lanka. Maybe someone should first have a look at the figures for terrorist casualties in Sri Lanka (http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/shrilanka/database/annual_casualties.htm). What on earth could have happened in 2009 to explain the change?
I think what happened in 2009 was that my nan got a new car. She went from a 1L engine to a 1.1L. And as we all know, the bigger engine giving out more CO2 caused the planet to warm, and global warming causes violence and war, or so al beeb wants us to believe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23538771
“The scientists say that with the current projected levels of climate change the world is likely to become a more violent place.”
so blame me nan
What, climate change causes Christianophobia? Can’t see Harrabin buying it.
Harrabin’s more likely to link climate change to islamophobia. I should email him this link from the new left project that states that an underlying factor in islamophobia is climate change
http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/understanding_islamophobia
The problem Christianity has is that it is a competitor of the left wing pseudo religion.
The whole of the left wing in the uk are steeped in Christianity, and have in effect recreated a bastardized version.
The (false) concern for the poor. (false) love thy neighbor (tolerance, multi culturism). The religious faith in their cause. The labeling of anything opposed as evil. The sins of greed and gluttony (capitalism). God (the state) and last but not least, global warming/ sea rising and general death if we continue our wicked ways (capitalism) (Noahs ark, Sodom and Gomorah).
Very dense people flock to the left wing for moral guidance without having to think for themselves.
If you ‘love thy neighbor’ because God told you to, then you can never love thy neighbour.
If you love thy neighbour before God tells you to, then you truly love thy neighbour.
Why should I ,in the absence of a ‘higher’ authority , love my neighbour?
A question asked and answered by Marxists and Nazis in the last century with recorded results
If you can’t answer the question: ‘Why should I love my neighbour in the absence of God?’, you need God!
You need God and I will drive you to the nearest church!!!
No I cant tell me why Ed
Because I can empathise with the pain and suffering of others and would try to help them as I hope they would help me.
The question could be worded differently: ‘Why shouldn’t I kill my neighbour in the absence of a higher authority?’
The answer is simple; because that would leave me vulnerable. It would not be to my advantage, unless they posed a threat to me. As a species we have thrived on communal living. Anyone who goes around killing ends up either being killed themselves or cast out of society, which leaves them exposed to their own frailties and doesn’t serve their purpose.
It’s all part of evolution. We wouldn’t be here today if we had no instinct for self-preservation. It all sounds very selfish, but the irony is that self-preservation ensures we protect not only ourselves, but our neighbours too.
The Dawkins explanation, Sometimes referred to as the ‘nice guys finish first’ theory, it doesn’t wash.
If I kill my neighbours that leaves more resources for me and my immediate family and consequently ensures the survival of my nearest gene type.
Your first statement “Because I can empathise with the pain and suffering of others ” is very revealing
I’m sure like most people you do empathise and just as well
But why? So far there is no satisfactory evolutionary explanation for empathy or artistic appreciation or a lot of other human traits. That doesn’t prove the existence of a god but it is an inconvenience that any reasoned atheist (which is how I describe myself) has to acknowledge
I recommend ” Darwinian Fairytales: Selfish Genes, Errors of Heredity and Other Fables of Evolution” by late Australian philosopher David Stove
as an antidote to the juvenile ramblings of secular fundamentalists
like Dawkins
Stewart, it’s a shame there isn’t more room here to continue the conversation and this is not the right place for it anyway. We need to take this some place else.
BTW: It’s Charles Darwin’s theory – not Richard Dawkins’.
As for Islam, that is the left wings fighting force. The brave freedom fighters standing up to USA and UK capitalism. If they deal with the competition of Christianity, then all good.
See the evil in the heart of the marxist. The Fabians talk of “creating a new common sense” (brain wash) and the BBC are enacting it.
So when can we expect to read a similarly sceptical item about how many Arabs have really been killed in Judaea, Samaria and Gaza, and of those what proprotion is the result of friendly fire or Hamas thuggery? And will it be under Jon Donnison’s byline?
Why should the BBC care? BBC couldnt care less that the Cockneys have been driven out of their ancestral homeland of Tower Hamlets.
What’s new?
When the Indonesian islamists were running riot in the 90s, slaughtering 10s of thousands of Christians, the vermin in the BBC bent over backwards to excuse what was essentially a genocide.
Make beastly remarks about a muslim? Well that’s a different matter as far as the BBC is concerned.
Funny how the BBC and the Left ignore Muslim violence towards Christianity and yet call for jihad when elderly Christian couples refuse gays a B & B bed for the night.
Not funny ‘haha’, funny peculiar, sinister.
Just heard an incredible interview on the Today programme with Baroness Warsi regarding persecution of Christians.
oops….to continue the post from above, I thought ‘Fair Play’ to the Baroness for raising the issue. However the ‘I’ word was only mentioned once in the interview. Islam? No of course not….it was ISRAEL which Sarah Montague cited as an example of a place where this persecution may occur. Not one mention of Islam. What total, craven, disgusting bias.
Please tell me you’re joking? Please. Only Israel was cited as an example of a place where persecution of Christians may occur? If this is true, with the open and violent persecution being reported from half a dozen countries every day: I find Montague’s comment to be offensive, evil and blinkered and downright effing stupid.
Afraid I’m not joking Span Ows. She cited Israel.
I`ve told Ismail Khaldi-diplomat for civil affairs re Israel and the UK about this.
This was-for me-as final a straw as I needed.
To shackle Israel to Iraq was disgraceful…and to even DARE to see parallels with what`s happening in Pakistan(Warsis roots) was an outrage.
When is Israel going to bare its teeth at the BBCs continual dripping of poison into its nation…and when are we Christians going to rise up and refuse the BBC any right to hide behind our persecution over there by blaming Israel and not Islam.
Monty needs Montessori lessons in spelling…Israel and Islam share a few letters but are not the same thing, you gobshite!
Reflex hatred of Israel, and casual contempt for Christian matrydom in our old lands has got to stop.#
If we can`t nobble the likes of Today-we don`t deserve any respect do we?
Damn it Chris, we need another crusade! You get the horses.
That wasn’t Chris, King Richard, it was ChrisH.
He’s not rebranded !
“the ‘I’ word was only mentioned once in the interview. Islam? No of course not….it was ISRAEL”
Yes its the Jews fault. The BBC is sick.
Christians in the Middle East have to a large degree cut their own throats. Realising that they had no future as second class Dhimmis under Islam, they invested heavily in Arab Nationalism. That meant also supporting the attacks against Israel, not that there wasn’t enough native antisemitism in their own Replacement Theology.
The establishment churches both Catholic and Protestant have so bought into the occupation in Palestine is the cause of all Christian problems in the Middle East meme, enthusiastically marketed by groups like Sabeel and Kairos, that they are incapable of looking at other causes.
Ironic isn’t it? The BBC has rejected so much of Christianity but enthusiastically accepts the anti Israel elements. If that means sacrificing the |Christians, so be it.
My view on this http://rex-omnus-angli.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-bbcs-war-on-christ.html