MAYBE THE EDL ISN’T SO BAD AFTER ALL

This is what the BBC will not tell you about the beliefs and actions of the Muslim Brotherhood….and remember the Muslim Brotherhood is well established in the UK.

First:

‘Last week in Egypt, when Muslim Brotherhood supporters terrorized the secular media, several Arabic websites—including Arab News, Al Khabar News, Dostor Watany, and Egypt Now—reported that people were being “crucified.” The relevant excerpt follows in translation:

 

A Sky News Arabic correspondent in Cairo confirmed that protestors belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood crucified those opposing Egyptian President Muhammad Morsi naked on trees in front of the presidential palace while abusing others. Likewise, Muslim Brotherhood supporters locked the doors of the media production facilities of 6-October [a major media region in Cairo], where they proceeded to attack several popular journalists.

 

El Balad adds that the supporters of Tawfik Okasha, another vocal critic of President Morsi—the one who widely disseminated the graphic video of a Muslim apostate being slaughtered to cries of “Allahu Akbar”—gathered around the presidential palace, only to be surrounded by Brotherhood supporters, who “attacked them with sticks, knives, and Molotov cocktails, crucifying some of them on trees, leading to the deaths of two and the wounding of dozens.”

Second:

WARNING….EXTREMELY GRAPHIC KILLING OF A MUSLIM WHO CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY.

‘For those who prefer not to view it, a summary follows:

A young man appears held down by masked men. His head is pulled back, with a knife to his throat. He does not struggle and appears resigned to his fate. Speaking in Arabic, the background speaker, or “narrator,” chants a number of Muslim prayers and supplications, mostly condemning Christianity, which, because of the Trinity, is referred to as a polytheistic faith: “Let Allah be avenged on the polytheist apostate”; “Allah empower your religion, make it victorious against the polytheists”; “Allah, defeat the infidels at the hands of the Muslims”; “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.”

Then, to cries of “Allahu Akbar!”—or, “God is great!”—the man holding the knife to the apostate’s throat begins to slice away, even as the victim appears calmly mouthing a prayer. It takes nearly two minutes of graphic knife-carving to sever the Christian’s head, which is then held aloft to more Islamic cries and slogans of victory.’

(The video link is in the article itself if you really want to watch it….trust me it is very gruesome and unpleasant)

Last week as the BBC were praising Mohammed Morsi for having removed the Army from powerful government positions the Muslim Brotherhood supporters were on the rampage against Christians and those who dared to leave Islam.

‘In fact, only the other day a top Egyptian Salafi leader openly stated that no Muslim has the right to apostatize, or leave Islam, based on the canonical hadiths, including Muhammad’s command, “Whoever leaves his religion, kill him.” Islam’s most authoritative legal manuals make crystal clear that apostasy is a capital crime, punishable by death.’

 

 

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48 Responses to MAYBE THE EDL ISN’T SO BAD AFTER ALL

  1. Earls Court says:

    The cowardly BBC and their left-wing comrades want the Islamic countries in the middle east to destroy Israel and have a second holocaust. They will feel gods rightous anger because of this and will suffer eternal toment in the lake of fire.

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    • Nicked emus says:

      Riiiggghhhhhhttttttt. Got it. Thanks for that.

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      • Wild says:

        Nicodemus believes that moderation is a position midway between truth and delusion.

        The notion that people are actively seeking a second (from which massacre do you start counting?) Jewish holocaust is too extreme to take seriously.

        The claim that the Left has a history of anti-Antisemitism can’t be true, after all Marx was Jewish! That some of the most virulent anti-Semites were Jewish is too intellectually disturbing for him.

        That the BBC anxiety to please Muslim zealots (while at the same time being so keen to stand up [in the name of agnosticism] against Christian fundamentalists) might have anything to do with cowardice he finds is too impolite to countenance.

        That the Left should seek an alliance with Islam makes no sense to him. Isn’t the Left supposed to be about liberation?

        As for the anger of God causing sinners to suffer eternal torment I hope not, but ignoring the human capacity for evil is merely the vanity of a foolish, complacent, and undereducated little boy preaching about things he (thankfully) cannot comprehend.

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        • Wild says:

          Anti-semitism not anti-Antisemitism

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        • Nicked emus says:

          Even by the deplorable standards of this bonkers site, that is the biggest load of unmitigated tosh I have read in a long time.
          But I am sure you felt a lot better after writing it.

             8 likes

          • johnnythefish says:

            That’s Wild’s argument mercilessly deconstructed by the mighty intellect of Nick. ‘Biggest load of unmitigated tosh’. Brilliant. I am in total awe.

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            • Justin Casey says:

              Ah yes…… Naked emo is a true wordsmith isn`t he/she*?! Quill at the ready… two browser tabs utilised … one an androgynous Fb profile full of cam phone pics at various angles for his skinny jeaned fans from Mensa… The other is here with us… just in case a bit of white knighting is in order whilst waiting for the avon delivery….
              Here you are Naked emo … Just fill this form instead….

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            • Nicked emus says:

              I’ll tell you what is tosh; that Wild has the arrogance to presume he knows what I think. His risible “analysis” says everything about him and nothing about me.

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          • Ian Hills says:

            Let’s get this right. Nicked emus seems to think that islamicism isn’t a problem, and that neither is the the BBC for that matter.

            Is he, perhaps, of the opinion that Egyptian Christians are the problem? And Biased BBC too? If so let’s hear his method for dealing with the problem.

            It’s only a guess, but I suspect that his suggestions will smack of intolerance, perhaps of a fundamentalist kind.

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            Nicked, do you disagree that there’s a significant number of Muslims around who actually do hate Jews and would promote a real war against them to wipe them out? Or do you agree that they do but just don’t think it’s a remote possibility because….why?

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        • Earls Court says:

          Are you trying to psychoanalyse me?

             2 likes

        • Earls Court says:

          Are you trying to psychoanalyse me in some way?

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Interesting how Nicked Emus is so dismissive of the Earls Court’s beliefs. Frankly, they aren’t mine, but I don’t see him threatening to behead anyone over his beliefs, so he’s perfectly entitled to them.

        Yet Mr Emus has nothing to say regarding these vile savages who video a beheading over nothing more than a difference in belief.

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        • Nicked emus says:

          he’s perfectly entitled to them.

          Indeed he is — as am I to find them laughable.

          has nothing to say regarding these vile savages

          Not only that I have nothing to say on Torres’ chances of scoring for Chelsea, on England’s chances against SA an not a word on bond yields in Spain.

          The set of things I had to say in that post has one member; the set of things about which I had nothing to say in that post is an infinite set which includes, among others, vile savages who video a beheading over nothing more than a difference in belief.

          But as we are on the subject I would say that vile savages who video a beheading over nothing more than a difference in belief are exactly that — vile.

          Anyone who uses a make-believe friend as any kind of justification is worthy of contempt; anyone who uses a make-believe friend as a justification to kill another person is, as you rightly put it, vile. In fact I am not even sure that vile is a strong enough term.

          I am not sure I would agree they are savage. Savage implies some sort of primitive, almost automatic, behaviour. People who do this are fully aware of what they are doing. Their behavior is abhorrent and they deserve to be met with the full weight of the law. If they are on a battlefield and they can’t be captured then they should be killed.

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        • Nicked emus says:

          he’s perfectly entitled to them.

          Indeed he is — as am I to find them laughable.

          has nothing to say regarding these vile savages

          Not only that I had nothing to say on Torres’ chances of scoring for Chelsea, on England’s chances against SA an not a word on bond yields in Spain.

          The set of things I had to say in that post has one member; the set of things about which I had nothing to say in that post is an infinite set which includes, among others, vile savages who video a beheading over nothing more than a difference in belief.

          But as we are on the subject I would say that vile savages who video a beheading over nothing more than a difference in belief are exactly that — vile.

          Anyone who uses a make-believe friend as any kind of justification is worthy of contempt; anyone who uses a make-believe friend as a justification to kill another person is, as you rightly put it, vile. In fact I am not even sure that vile is a strong enough term.

          I am not sure I would agree they are savage. Savage implies some sort of primitive, almost automatic, behaviour. People who do this are fully aware of what they are doing. Their behavior is abhorrent and they deserve to be met with the full weight of the law. If they are on a battlefield and they can’t be captured then they should be killed.

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          • Earls Court says:

            Is there a glitch in the Matrix?

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            • Wild says:

              Nicked Emus (as usual) tries to evade the questions addressed to him. Let me set them out for him.

              1) Is the BBC cowardly in its reporting of Islam?

              2) Is there an anti-Western alliance between Islam and the Left – explicit in the case of the Marxist Left and by default in the case of the Liberal Left?

              3) Is it the case that many people are seeking a a new Jewish holocaust in which Israel will be wiped off the map?

              They seem to me to be fair questions. The best you go do so far is reply

              “Riiiggghhhhhhttttttt”.

              and

              “the biggest load of unmitigated tosh I have read in a long time.”

              which even by your standards is pretty feeble.

              P.S. I suggest you have look via Google at what has happened in Hungary in the last few days – look for details about the politician Csanad Szegedi

              P.S.S. If you have time (it takes just over 3 minutes) watch the You Tube interchange between David Horowitz and an Islamic student about the Jews.

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              • Wild says:

                For the sake of clarity I referred to Csanad Szegedi because he is (or was) a prominent anti-Semitic politician in Hungary who (it turns out) is Jewish.

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          • wallygreeninker says:

            ” Their behavior is abhorrent and they deserve to be met with the full weight of the law”
            What they did was a calculated act of inimidation ‘pour encourager les autres’ and frighten non-believers (an extreme form of a more general modus operandi acceptable to many- possibly most -Muslims) and legal, under sharia law.

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  2. Pounce says:

    “‘In fact, only the other day a top Egyptian Salafi leader openly stated that no Muslim has the right to apostatize, or leave Islam, based on the canonical hadiths, including Muhammad’s command, “Whoever leaves his religion, kill him.” Islam’s most authoritative legal manuals make crystal clear that apostasy is a capital crime, punishable by death.’

    The fact remains Muslims cannot accept when somebody leaves the flock. Which is why since 1975 I have had a total of about 2 days contact with members of my family. Not from a lack of trying on my behalf but rather from the gay death cults view that I am somehow a traitor and have brought shame on the family.

    The bBC, the traitors in our Midst

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  3. Pounce says:

    While the bBC is so quick to defend the followers of Allah,
    (Have a look at the Indian story of how over 4000 people have fled their homes in fear of attack, problem is the bBC doesn’t tell you who they are running from., have a guess)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-19278307

    Meanwhile the bBC rights the headlines of how a supporter of gay rights opened fire on Christians.
    Christian group ‘gunman’ charged
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19288662

    when was the last time you saw a headline which described somebody who attacked Muslims as an Islamic group gunman , why when was the last time you saw the bBC even use the title Islamic in any terrorist attack.
    (Terrorist, someone who carry s out acts in which to get people to do as they want, ie to terrorise, not militise, but to terrorise)
    The bBC, the traitors in our Midst

       41 likes

    • Mike Easerindacar says:

      Good find mate, good catch. The BBC has an undeniable anti-Christian, Islamo-Marxist agenda… but it will be the Left-wing useful idiots who will suffer most when the kebab hits the grill! I recall watching a peaceful EDL protest, with the usual opposing extremist Islamic rabble demonstration on the other side of the street, and was appalled to note that their were quite a few soap-starved, dreadlocked, bongo-banging, rich-kid, benefit-scrounging lefties among their foul ranks…. don’t they see that they will be item number 1 on the local kebab house menu if Islam ever gets a hold on this country’s freedoms?

         25 likes

      • Earls Court says:

        These Marxist/Left-wing types must be mentally ill. The Muslims hate people like this more than they hate the jews and thats saying something.

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  4. Pounce says:

    Damn that should be write

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  5. john in cheshire says:

    The EDL are part of the solution. The UAF, the bbc, socialists of all persuasions and of course most particularly, islam are all part of the problem.

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  6. Leftie-Loather says:

    OUR disgraceful bBC, the ONLY broadcaster we HAVE TO fund, is truly sick through to its bones and really does give new meaning to turning the other cheek.

    bBC – british Brainwashing COWARDS!!

    It will lose the battle in the end though, GUARANTEED. I’ve known thousands of ordinary British people in my time, from all walks of life and all living in the real world, and EASILY the vast majority of them aren’t anything like the fools that the forever half truths spouting gutless bBC THINK they are.

    “(The video link is in the article itself if you really want to watch it….trust me it is very gruesome and unpleasant)”

    No thanks. Out of curiosity about Islam and its anything BUT equality preaching book, I watched such a video (of an American hostage) on the internet years ago, or somehow managed to stomach watching about 95% of it anyway. – Never again!
    I got up and just walked around the house shaking for a good 10-15 minutes after seeing it. The most sickeningly horrific and barbaric thing i’ve ever seen and heard, every single bit as pure evil and horrific as you could possibly imagine.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Yes, and I’m sure many of the INBBC folk have also viewed such material. just consider they have unlimited access to hours and hours of such wonderful images.
      They genrally fall into 2 types:
      the staged beheading, the fate of hostages, which is filmed studio style so the barbarian savages can transmit around the world.
      The stuff done in public like stonings for adultery (always the woman of course) and that wonderful bunch of morons whooping and shouting (as they film on their i-phones) alahu akhbar!!
      Who TF would want to import a single one of these barbarians into this land of ours?
      I ask you you just couldnt make it up!

         30 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        We seem to be getting very good at exporting them, too, especially the home-grown variety..

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  7. George R says:

    Islamic EGYPT and INBBC.

    Now that Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood are in political control, INBBC is likely to indulge in self-censorship in Egypt:

    “Egypt’s Islamist Leaders Accused of Stifling Media”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/world/middleeast/egypts-islamists-accused-of-limiting-press-freedom.html?pagewanted=all

    But then, INBBC sees its global imperial broadcasting political role, to a large extent, as acting as Press Agent for Islamic governments such as that of Morsi, and for Islamic organisations such as that of the Muslim Brotherhood.
    And INBBC employs many Muslims globally at British people’s expense, to ensure that Islamic propaganda is conveyed directly by believers.

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  8. Shami Chakrabarti says:

    Hey guys, thanks for the new video, I was beginning to get a little bored of strumming myself off over the beheading of Eugene Armstrong, so it’s nice to have some new material.
    I shall be doing everything in my power to have this site shut down though. How dare you compare the brave, mass-murdering, Islamist terrorist/freedom fighters of The Brotherhood, with those vile, white, working/lower-middle class pieces of scum from the EDL.
    How dare they protest about their towns being enriched in to Third World slums and terrorist hotbeds. They should be celebrating this vibrant diversity.
    NAZI – NAZI – NAZI

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  9. jah says:

    Funny that Nic wrote almost nothing but there is an a plethora of posts putting up straw men so the posters here can defend the EDL and lambast The BBC for more crimes it didn’t commit. This site should be recommended by the NHS for its mirth. Beats Private Eye for fun reading.
    It is all satire isn’t it.

       1 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      So the right to fredom of speech should be taken away from members of the EDL because…….
      (Please complete in no more than 500 words. Support your arguments by making comparisons with other ‘extremist’ organisations across the political and religious spectrum.)

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  10. jah says:

    Funny that Nic wrote almost nothing but there is an a plethora of posts putting up straw men so the posters here can defend the EDL and lambast The BBC for more crimes it didn’t commit. This site should be recommended by the NHS for its mirth. Beats Private Eye for fun reading.

    It is all satire isn’t it!

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  11. jah says:

    Another straw man. Who wants the EDL banned or said it here?

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  12. wallygreeninker says:

    The BBC makes no secret of its hostility and contempt regarding the EDL and gives less than minimal information about the grievances it expresses. It seeks o discredit the EDL while giving ample time to Muslim propagandists and going well out of its way to prevent Islam from being criticised. This sanitising (and, occasionally, glorification of of an ideology, many of the tenets of which the British public would not even regard as respectable, if they were told the truth) extends to its coverage of foreign affairs.

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  13. JAH says:

    It took me 5 secs to find a BBC article on EDF and its views
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8250017.stm

    I’m all for the EDFs continued existence. Any party led by a fascist wife beating jailbird like Tommy Robinson has a real future in the UK.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(English_Defence_League)

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    • jarwill101 says:

      I’m all for EDF’s continued existence, as well; for the time being. I don’t want my electricity cut off; fascist wife-beating CEO, or not.

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      • Leftie-Loather says:

        LOL!!

        “EDF” ….lol

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        • jarwill101 says:

          JAH Wobble.

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          • Justin Casey says:

            Imagine entrusting the EDF to defend our values… Will they be using an Electric fence?? Or being French will they surrender at the first opportunity then start handing over Jews to the Muslims same as they did in the Second World War??? I have a feeling that the EDF have thier own Gas facilities …….. is it true Jah??? Do they have that kind of `power`???

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  14. Wild says:

    The article was about the Muslim Brotherhood, but since you can read you already know that, you just want to change the subject.

    The title “Maybe the EDL isn’t so bad after all” is clearly a reference to the hostile way in which the Leftist BBC report the (generally working class) EDL in contrast to the relatively sympathetic way they report (or do not report) the views and activities of the Muslim Brotherhood, but since you can read you already know that, and pretend not to understand.

    Many of the comments (including my own) are a response to Nicked Emus’s reaction to Earl Court, but (as I previously pointed out) since you can read you already know that, you are trying (somewhat desperately in my view) to sound like a defender of a free society instead of one of its enemies.

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  15. wallygreeninker says:

    And a religion that recommends the beating of disobedient wives, has a social, political and military philosophy that strikes many people as a kind of ur-fascism, and which supplies a disproportionate number of the country’s jailbirds has a splendid future in the UK?
    Personally I would prefer a British equivalent to Gert Wilders to emerge but he would have to do so over the dead body of your beloved Beeb, I have nothing in common with the EDL (alhough marginally more than I have with the strangely fascistic UAF and stone throwing allahu akbar yelling Muslim youths) but almost anybody could make a better fist of why they exist than the BBC. The three year old article you refer to could only be taken as at best, extremely unsympathetic, and was more than generous in giving space to the movement’s critics.

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  16. jah says:

    A Freudian slip more likely. Supply your own word;-)

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