222 Responses to OPEN THREAD

  1. sue says:

    The other day I pointed out the irony of James Naughtie discussing loaded questions in the context of Alex Salmond’s proposed “Do you agree”  referendum question.
    Naughtie doubled the irony by assuring us that Professor Robert Cialdini from Arizona couldn’t possibly have a vested interest in criticising Mr. Salmond because he had never even heard of him. Hidden allegiances and affiliations – whatever next!
    Ha very ha though!
    Today on the Andrew Marr show Alex Salmond defended his “Do you agree” phrasing, and trebled the irony by casting doubt on Professor Cialdini’s impartiality.  He said Cialdini was known to have been working for David Cameron.
    Apparently a connection, somewhat in the manner of  the confusion between paedophiles and paediatricians, has been ferreted out by some journalists. As far as I can tell the connection gotcha is more than a little shaky. See, buried here in George Osborn’e speech at the RSA.
    “For the past 18 months, we have been working with Richard Thaler, Robert Cialdini and others to develop new social policy that more effectively reflect how people really behave.”

    In other words, if you happen to use expert opinion, that expert “works for you.” The irony has been quadrupled by the fact that professor Cialdini’s area of expertise concerns “influence.” 🙂

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  2. Biodegradable says:

    The BBC gets its math wrong in order to make a point (of view):

    A Point of View: The many faces of Margaret Thatcher

    On 16 May 1979 – less than two weeks after the election – Peter Walker, Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, wrote to Chancellor Geoffrey Howe, urging him to raise the then state-controlled retail price of milk by 1.5p to 15p a pint – a more than 10% increase.

    By my reckoning an increase from 1.5 to 15 is exactly 10%!

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Hey, with ecomomics experts like Mason and Flanders at the helm, who knows?

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    • Scott M says:

      Sorry, biodegradable, but you’re wrong. An increase by 1.5p to 15p works out at an 11.11% increase from the original price of 13.5p.

      An increase of 1.5p from a starting price of 15p would, indeed, be exactly 10% – but that’s now what Lisa Jardine was talking about. 

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      • Scott M says:

        Sorry, did mean ‘that’s not what she was talking about’…

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      • Biodegradable says:

        I stand corrected Scott, BUT, nowhere is the price of 13.5p mentioned.

        I admit to misreading the paragraph and taking it as meaning the price went from 1.5p to 15p.

        Perhaps that was Jardine’s intention?

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        • Scott M says:

          “nowhere is the price of 13.5p mentioned.”

          Well, it doesn’t need to be – in saying the price went up by 1.5p to 15p, there’s enough information in there for the point to be made.

          “Perhaps that was Jardine’s intention?”

          Doubtful, don’t you think?

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          • cjhartnett says:

            I just loved the air of entitlement that Lisa Jardine displayed in this “Point of View”.
            She started by saying that her insider role for the National Archive enabled her to see Thatchers personal notes over policy documents…wonder if she was the one who leaked Howes views re Liverpool at the start of the month?
            If not, I still don`t see how the likes of her can pick up HFEA Chairs and STILL find time to sneer at Thatcher and her “milk snatching etc”.
            Along with the likes of Freedland, Frostrup and Beard…Ashley etc…there`s a lot of leftie luvvies swapping jobs high up the food chain and all amateurs…but all with the Guardian mindset so needed by anyone who gets a “Point Of View” at our expense.
            Like Steel-still fighting the class wars, but with the smarmy gloss of liberal groupthink that oozes entitlement and a sense of what we “civilians in drab” REALLY think to be good for us.
            Heard Jardine in her role as HFEA Chair on Toady recently…she knew less about it that Humphrys, but was able to use her cut glass Cheltenham Gels accent to spit out a website link…so well worth the money eh?
            Still, did get one nugget-MLK turns out to have used up a lot of his carbon footprint entitlement…6,000miles pa!
            Along with his republican label…maybe we SHOULD give him a day for stuffing the Green Lobby and being a Republican too!
            An early Newt Gingrich then! 

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          • London Calling says:

            Inflation in 1979 stood at 13.4%. So the story, if there is one, is not whether its 11% or 10%, but that it was an increase in the price of milk significantly below the prevailing rate of inflation. You could spin that a number of ways, but the bBC “dozy mare” presenter school of thought can’t see further than a hint hint “Thatcher Milk Snatcher”

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          • RCE says:

            Scott’s dead right.

            Now, Scotty me old chum, what do you think about R4 PM stating that the loverboy phenomenon  “isn’t grooming in the traditional sense, these girls choose to enter the relationships”?

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            • cjhartnett says:

              An unlikely pincer movement this Dez/Scott thing isn`t it?
              As for a response to yourself RCE….we`re reduced to meditating on the tumbleweed windblown by the windmills of their minds.

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              • RCE says:

                It is becoming somewhat trite to articulate the truism that Dez/Scott is/are too dumb to see that rare, selective corrections on matters of little import prove that they scour these pages unable to address more fundamental matters.

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                • Scott M says:

                  You can draw whatever conclusion you like (just as the poster above chose to conclude that Lisa Jardine assuming her audience would know basic maths was somehow a conspiracy against people who don’t think).

                  However, the truth is rather more prosaic: if you act like childish little gits, you can’t expect people who disagree with you to enjoy your company.

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                  • John Anderson says:

                    The more important point is that Lisa Jardine chose to dwell on an absurdly unimportant point in Thatcher’s time as PM.  But it gave her the chance to resurrect the old adage “Maggie Thatcher – Milk Snatcher”.

                    And the “childish little gits” epithet surely attaches to Dez and Scottie.   Forever avoiding the main issues of rank BBC bias.

                    I am sick to death of hearing Jardine on the radio.  She is trite, biased and usually boring,  butshe’s right up there in the BBC’s leftie Rolodex.

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                  • My Site (click to edit) says:

                    That statement further reducing your future expectation of any credibility (especially naively presuming claiming to be the purveyor of ‘the truth’ a la BBC, based solely on self-belief) on ad hom huffing and puffing when it suits, frankly. 

                    But again, a valuble reconfirmation of substance lite hypocrisy again, so thank you.

                    As those keen to conflate the views of individuals on a blog with all, not sure your ideological fellow travellers, who are often keen to pull the ‘Mummy, nasty man is being mean’ flounce card when dealing with reasoned argument fails, will.

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  3. grangebank says:

    Farming Today over the past fortnight  has been highlighting the new Laying Of Eggs regulations ,or whatever they`re called , by the EU .
    In a nutshell , all egg producers had to increase the area that their hens were kept in , and other modifications .
    Now some countries haven`t complied with the new laws , and British egg farmers were incensed that eggs from those foreign farms that didn`t comply were still allowed into the UK ( level playing field ? ) under EU law .

    Then the BBC discovered something . Some British farms weren`t complying with the EU directives ,leaving egg on the faces of the Brit representatives in Brussels , excuse the pun .
    How many weren`t complying ? About 35 or something . Less than 1% of our egg producers .
    Is it me , but do I detect a certian glee by the BBC announcer that Britian is “not complying ” and we cannot complain about other countries ( where the non compliance is 35% ) , and that action might be taken against us by the EU ?

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  4. George R says:

    One way BBC-NUJ deceives with its political ‘leftism’, is to wrap up an article as ‘a point of view’ as here, is this piece from ‘leftist’ Ms L. JARDINE:  
     
    “A [‘Leftist’] Point of View: The many faces of Margaret Thatcher”  
     
     
    [Extract – note the ‘we’ -apparently Ms Jardine is a ‘leftist’ group thinker] –  
     
     
    “The 11 years of Margaret Thatcher’s premiership were some of the most turbulent I and my like-minded contemporaries lived through. At the time we were opposed to almost every political decision she ever took.  
    “Opinion in the country was sharply divided, of course, hence her victory in three general elections.”  
     
    Isn’t the last sentence above a non sequitor?   
     
     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16740356
     
     
     
     
    Will BBC-NUJ allow us a non-leftist ‘point of view’ on the same subject next week?

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    • cjhartnett says:

      Not at all George.
      I read Jonathan Freedlands piece in the Guardian yesterday, and Lisa Jardine would concur-as do all right thinking leftits and liberals that have the airwaves and braodsheet columns largely to themselves.
      These people swap jobs between the Guardian etc, and the Beeb…they all went to private schools and Oxbridge…they sail under an ex-hubbys name if that helps the degrees of separation. 
      They tell us what to think, what matters and how to vote…they have houses all over the place, and their kids are always alright…but their airmiles are like Al Gores…necessary in the Common Purpose…that of Mankind itself.
      So when the likes of us don`t vote as intended…support a Tony Martin, not a Tony Blair…they are affronted and enraged…and spend their entire lives trying to din it into our thick white heads!
      And if not-well they look good in their BBC carpool and have the satisfaction of haiving fleeced the proles of the license fee or turbine taxes at least!
      More fool us then…for now anyway!

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  5. Roger C says:

    Big item on the news channel this mourning,”there have been no gay footballers coming out in the last ten years or so” Is there really no more important news to report on this sunday? 

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    • As I See It says:

      Like the BBC, I too am surprized that “there have been no gay footballers coming out in the last ten years or so”.

      Considering the way that the BBC has been clammering for one. Cripes, they would be a shoe-in for controller of Radio 5.

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      • cjhartnett says:

        Got to be a safe gig for any clapped out player with a wife prepared to go along with it for as long as the BBC will pay him!
        And then the conversion when the perks and  jobs dry up….
        We medics call it the Tom Robinson Phase of cultural brainrot syndrome (CBS)

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  6. Craig says:

    Ed Stourton’s ‘Sunday‘ lived down to expectations again. 

    In his introduction, Ed told us these items were on the menu:
    – Do the tabloids misrepresent Muslims? 
    – Women bishops in the Church of England (clip of a supporter of women bishops)
    – Is the Chuch of England too white and middle-class?
    – The 40th anniversary of Bloody Sunday (clip of priest describing a child dying).

    Such a typical BBC/Guardian list of subjects!

    First up though was Egypt. Ed interviewed speed-dial professor Dr Omar Ashour from Exeter University (isn’t that the one with Saudi funding?). Ed struck a positive note that today’s latest round of elections, which look set to be another big win for the two main islamist parties, marks “another step on the road to a democratic future”. Professor Ashour told us about the “transformation” of the Salafist party into a nice, pro-Copt, pro-women party and told us that the Muslim Brothers are being “inclusive” towards their critics. Happy days!

    The Archbishop of York made two ‘attacks’ this week, one expressing reservations about gay marriage, the other attacking his own Church for being “too white and too middle-class”. ‘Sunday’ went with the second one. Ed talked to an ethnic minorities campaigner who shares Archbishop Sentamu’s concerns and encouraged her to express her (unchallenged) case. Ed backed her up and felt he had to ask the question on every BBC employee’s lips: “Is it something that you would call ‘institutional racism’?” 

    The 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday was covered at length. It saw a report from a concerned-sounding woman that featured “three Catholics caught up in the events” – a bishop, a Bloody Sunday museum manager who still hates the British and Gerry O’Hara, former leader of the youth wing of the IRA. The Saville Inquiry was a good thing, they all agreed. After this one-sided report, Ed Stourton talked to Trotskyite BBC regular and Bloody Sunday participant, journalist Eamonn McCann. He began by asking him about the Saville Inquiry, “It did make a real difference, didn’t it?” “Oh, I think it did,” replied the SWP man. “We’ve heard very much from the Catholic side of the perspective as it were so far…”, said Ed at one stage, admitting (in passing) that it had been a one-sided report. 

    There was a proper two-sided discussion of the case being made by an Oxford philosopher that judges are giving religious freedoms lower priority than other issues such as equality cases, such as the civil registrar in Islington who was dismissed by the council because she didn’t want to administer civil partnerships. Professor Roger Trigg, who defended her right to follow her religious conscience,, debated with legal commentator Joshua Rozenberg, who disagreed with him. Ed described one of Mr. Rozenburg’s points as an “important” one and praised him for having “very clearly” made a particular point, but it was an interesting discussion nonetheless. Kevin Bocquet’s report on women bishops was OK too. 

    The programme ended by airing Inayat Bunglawala’s grievance that the taboids are misrepresenting muslims. The BBC likes giving him a platform. This was this week’s Leveson Inquiry story. Thankfully,
    Trevor Kavanagh of The Sun was invited on (presumably because he works for a Murdoch paper) & gave Mr. B short shrift. So the airing of this extremely-worded grievance rather backfired. 

    So, another dire edition of ‘Sunday’ then.

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:

      I’m with the Colonel of 2 Para who asked,

      ‘what about bloody monday, bloody tuesday, bloody wednesday and bloody everything else the IRA got its hands on’.

      Honourable mention here to blog favourite Jeremy Hardly who in his time put up bail money for Roisin McAliskey on her arrest for a mortar attack on a British army base in Germany.  And campaigned tirelessly for the release from jail of Danny McNamee whose fingerprint was innocently found on electronics circuits linked to the Hyde Park bombing in 1982.

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    • John Anderson says:

      When I heard the intro to the programme,  I assumed it might be Kavanagh hitting back on the nonsense of Islamophobia.   But the rest of the programme contents sounded likely to be so predictably boring and biased that I simply switched off.

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  7. pounce_uk says:

    How the bBC promotes its Islamic terrorism agenda is justified to the great unwashed.  
    Nigeria army kills 11 Boko Haram Islamists  
    The Nigerian military has shot dead 11 members of Islamist militant group Boko Haram in the north-eastern city of Maiduguri, a spokesman said.They died during a shootout in the capital of Borno state, he said.  
     
    But Boko Haram said its members had been picked from their homes by the army’s joint task force and killed.  
     
    Last week, at least 185 people were killed in a series of bomb attacks in Kano, another northern city. Boko Haram said it carried them out.   
     
    Most of the victims were civilians.  
     

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    • pounce_uk says:

      Above is the bBC coverage of how 11 murderious reglious bigots met their end when they came across people who could and did fight back. The bBC gives more prominance to what the terrorists ahve to say, than to the government. This is given further credence by how the bBC follows up the above by reporting:  
      If claims that the 11 Boko Haram members were picked up from their homes are true, it would represent a strong-arm tactics by the army, the BBC’s Mark Lobel in Kano reports.  
      So in other words , the terorists are victims, you know victims who have murdered over 1000 people in cold blood this past month.. This is then used by the bBC as an excuse why Boko Haram may boycott peace talks.  
      The spokesman also rejected Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan’s recent call for open dialogue to end the fighting.  
      He said the idea of talks was “impossible” while group members were being killed and – at the same time – being asked to surrender weapons.  
      And yet nowhere at the bBC do they report the Guardian interview from friday with Boko Haram, where they openily state they will not stop until they put themselves in power and install Sharia law on the Southen (Christian)half of the country.  
       
      Gee I wonder why the bBC left that out.

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  8. Craig says:

    While I’m on, Labour-friendly Paddy O’Connell did a piece on this morning’s Broadcasting House that mocked the way sitting governments (like the Cameron-led one) blame previous governments (like the Blair/Brown one) for current problems. What was the not-so-hidden agenda behind that, I wonder? 

    Lord West was on the paper review, where he criticised Cameron. Paddy gave us a bit of biographical information about the ex-minister and played that “Being a simple sailor, not a politician” clip before he spoke. He forgot to say that since he made that remark, Lord West has joined the Labour Party and now sits on the Labour benches in the House of Lords (where he’s a sheep, not a GOAT). That might have put his criticisms in context for unsuspecting listeners.

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:

      In fairness to Paddy O’ Braindead I mock the way people like him blame Margaret Thatcher for all of society’s ills and will continue to do so for the next 50 years or so.

      Tickles me no end when people who were 5 years old when Maggie left office come on as though they are battle-hardened veterans of the Battle of Orgreave.

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      • Demon1001 says:

        And of course, these lefties who blame Fatcher for all the wrongs of things that happened moe than 20 years ago, also keep complaining that Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess they left 18 months ago or so. 

        Hypocricy, you’re name is Socialism. 

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      He forgot to say that..’

      The integrity malfunction that seems to frame most BBC ‘context’.

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  9. cjhartnett says:

    Thanks-yet again-for tolerating Edward Storton for the hour Craig!
    The list of topics on the programme just need no comment-what else would a hand-wringing Jesus creeper want on his show in order to claim a clammy hand from those upstairs?
    I`m reminded of what someone said about George Lansbury…that he trawls around the battlefield trailing his conscience, and all in the hope that he may yet find someone willing to surrender it to!
    Sums up nearly all BBC/Guardian offerings…

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  10. George R says:

    INBBC censors results of its promotion of Islamic mass immigration to UK.

    ‘Jihadwatch’ doesn’t:

    U.K.: Girls as young as nine being forced into marriage

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  11. George R says:

    DAVOS.

    BBC-NUJ lobbies for its tiny numbers of unrepresentative ‘Occupiers’ and ‘greenies’ in this long article by one Damien KAHYA, ‘Business reporter’!

    This is how Thompson allows our money to be squandered:
    on pet Beeboid political projects.

    “Davos 2012: Alternative [‘leftist’] voices on how to fix the world economy”

    By Damian Kahya

     Business [!] reporter, BBC News


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16772738

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  12. John Anderson says:

    Mark Steyn had a succint definition of the State of The Union : Broke.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289543/state-our-union-broke-mark-steyn?pg=2

    Nowhere has the BBC reported the storm of criticism about Obama’s lack of real content – it was all just political posturing.   Nothing substantial about dealing with debt and deficit.   46% of US Government expenditure is currently funded by borrowing,  mostly from the Chinese !

    And I be the BBC does not report this pleasant new green shoot of the Arab Spring in Egypt – maybe because it shows the direct links between thre Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda :

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/01/islamist_egyptian_mp.php

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  13. Craig says:

    Alan Little’s history of the euro, Europe’s Choice (Radio 4, 1.30pm today, Part 1), though not uninteresting, came across (to me) as the official BBC line on the years leading up to the birth of the single currency.

    It began with Blair’s chief of staff, Jonathan Powell, attacking Mrs. Thatcher, then went through all manner of key players – Douglas Hurd (pro-European); David, Lord Williamson, former Secretary-General of the European Commission (pro-European); John, Lord Kerr, former UK ambassador to the EU, member of several pro-EU think tanks (pro-European); Sir Nigel Wicks, former aide to Mrs Thatcher who went native in Europe (pro-European); plus Joachim Bitterlich, Helmut Kohl’s advisor; Dietrich von Kyaw, former German ambassador to the EU; and Jacques Lafitte, French former advisor to the EU Commission. Finally, on came Ed Balls to blow his own (and Gordon Brown’s) trumpet.

    So, a BBC programme about a controversial period of recent EU and British history and not a single Eurosceptic in sight. (It comes to something when Balls is the closest thing to one). 

    These were all players in the story, but there was an ‘independent expert’ too. Who did Alan Little pick? A disinterested academic? No, it was the arch-Europhile Timothy Garton Ash. 

    There are two more episodes to come. When will we get the first Eurosceptic? Will we get a Eurosceptic voice at all?

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  14. As I See It says:

    Guardian on Sunday, sorry I mean the BBC’s Andrew Marr TV show, (sorry, I mean the liberal elite ‘tell it like it is’ show) set the scene with an interview with a Greek politician.

    Nice question – would the imposition of an EU official to oversee the Greek economy be undemocratic? Pity the interview went off at half-cock. The Greek was at pains to say it wasn’t going to happen. (And there was me thinking that the EU were already calling the shots in Greece – ah well, what do I know?).

    Then to home shores and the newspaper review with Helena Kennedy QC and Labour Peer who…

    ‘With a handful of others…played a key role in persuading the New Labour Party to embrace this reform agenda as a central plank of is manifesto, which led to the incorporation of the European Convention on Human Rights into British Law’.

    ‘She is currently on the board of the Independent newspaper, which she has done since 1998′

    So Andy Marr tees most questions up for MS Kennedy.

    Gosh, I wonder where she stands on the great questions of the day?

    And balance provided by?

    Richard Lloyd, ‘director of the Which organisation’. So says Andy.

    I don’t know him, what’s in his CV?

    ‘In the 1990s Richard became Head of Policy at Shelter, drawing on his earlier experience delivering frontline services with housing associations in south London. Richard has also worked for two years in No10 Downing Street as a Special Adviser to the Prime Minister, dealing with economic issues across the government, including strategy, communications and consumer policy.

    Well I assume that was Tony Blair’s No 10. Richard and Andy, are you both being coy?

    Oh my what a broad range of views the BBC do provide.

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    • Craig says:

      As I See It,

      Yes, a Labour peer and a Labour spin doctor – how cozy!

      Richard Lloyd turns out to have been one of Gordon Brown’s inner circle.

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      • Craig says:

        The result of this was that Helena Kennedy chose a form of words that avoided naming the Labour Party as being responsible for Stephen Hester’s contract & instead waxed indignant and attacked David Cameron as “feeble”. Andrew Marr hmmed along and kept quiet. Richard Lloyd then attacked George Osborne over the issue. Marr said “Sure” and moved on. Typical Marr.

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:

        Richard Lloyd turns out to have been one of Gordon Brown’s inner circle.

        Amazing what ‘turns out’ about the BBC’s choices of guests vs. what the BBC sees fit to frame for the audience.

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    • John Anderson says:

      Would Andrew Marr ever bring on Trevor Kavanagh to do the news review etc ?

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      • Craig says:

        John,

        Checking the Marr Show archive Trevor Kavanagh has reviewed the papers just twice in the show’s existence (once in 2009 and once in 2005). Baroness Kennedy, in contrast, has been on 20 times in the same period.

        Polly Toynbee has been on 8 times, while Peter Hitchens has only been on once.  

        Trevor Phillips has been on 7 times. Melanie Phillips has never been on. 

        Shami Chakrabarti has been on 7 times. Douglas Murray, Dr David Starkey and Richard D North have never been on.

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        • John Anderson says:

          Craig

          As a veteran political journalist and editor at the biggest-circulation newspaper in Britain – probably the doyen of political journalists in Fleet Street these days – Trevor Kavanagh is better qualified to comment on the news on Marr’s show or any other BBC programme than the whole damn lot of them put together. It is a scandal that they use him so little.

          That is the measure of the BBC’s bias.

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  15. BBCwaste says:

    Why is the BRITISH BBC referring tonight in the news to Derry NOT Londonderry, when

    (a) Royal charter decreed it as Londonderry in 1662
    (b) the High Court reaffirmed the name should be Londonderry in 2007
    (c) Only 8% of Protestants and 6% of Unions accepted Derry in a 2009 poll
    (d) In a consultatation conducted in 2007 12,136 comments were received, 3108 were in favour, and 9208 opposed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry

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    • grangebank says:

      Its Mumbai not Bombay and Beijing not Peking  but when Beeboids jet off to the oprea in Italy they dont want to land in Firenze but the old established name of Florence . 

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  16. John Horne Tooke says:

    This shows the mentality of the people who rule over us.
    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2012/01/game-over.html

    No wonder Britain is in such a mess with these idiots calling the shots.

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  17. As I See It says:

    BBC Countryfile. In the Channel Islands where Ellie Harrison is busy terrifying us about an old crude spill.

    Yes, true it was nasty, but no one is suggesting that we spill the stuff deliberately.

    I think it’s just an excuse to keep pronouncing the name of the ship…‘Tor-ree Canyon’….as in Tory. I think once or twice she even shortened the name to Tory.

    There was me recalling BBC newsreaders of yore having called the ship Torrey Canyon with Torrey pronounced so as to rhyme with the surnane of my old mate Andy Murray or like MORI the polling outfit.

    Yes I know I’m hearing the bias everwhere now.

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    • Number 7 says:

      …And on beeboid 2 we had Lost Expolorers, detailing the exploits of some bloke called Bruce who effectively sold the South Orknet Islands to the Argies (sorry – Argentina), needless to say the presenter was a rabid Scots Nat – the bloke off Coast.

      The part which I found particularly biased was a section towards the end on penguin population – as in decrease over the last 50 years due to GLOBAL WARMING (I thought it was now climate change or climate disruption, due to the computer model failures).

      The problem, as presented, was a reduction in the available food source ( Krill ).

      Now, correct me if I am wrong, the 50 year timescale seems to tally with the various bans on whaling.

      Perhaps an alternative hypothesis is that extensive whaling restricted the activities of the top Krill predator (whales) resulting in a population explotion of a secondary predator (penguins) and that is now returning to previous levels?

      Just a thought – not to be entertained on Planet Beeboid.

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  18. cjhartnett says:

    Seems that large parts of the BBCs schedule are now devoted to hysterical grooming of the nations fainthearts, whilst continually pushing their cyclops-like view of the cumulative culture.Only one view allowed-and that will be all thats going to be needed.
    Monoculture of the mind-but muticultural if it creates the break up of the nation.
    I often wonder about the likes of Burgess and McLean-and their contemporaries that chose the media, the unions and the hush puppies that allowed the creep through the institutions instead.
    Much less courage needed, and a comfortable dotage being lauded by the BBC.
    Useful idiots of Stalin-but worthless rebels that get to review papers, policies etc!

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  19. RGH says:

    And the missing word is….?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16783354

    Further clue:

    The defence of honour killing is accepted in 48 nations around the world.

    What they have in common is the same word that is missing in the BBC report linked above.

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    • ian says:

      Bloody Quakers. When they’re not killing their own kids they’re blowing up other people’s.

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  20. Martin says:

    I see the BBC are overjoyed that Hester has dropped his bonus. Funny that fat shit Nolan on Radio 5 thinks it’s the fault of the Tories that Hester got a bonus even though Gordon Brown never nationalised the bank and left it in the control of the board along with the discretion to award a bonus.

    Hope Hester now walks, I would how come he’s getting all the grief, he never got RBS into the mess it’s in it was the previous management, Gordon Brown and the FSA who are all getting away with it.

    But once again Liebore are ll over the media tonight and the Tories are zzzzzzzzz

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:

      The Dirty Droids are quite happy to pore the electron microscope over every atom of ink on Hester’s in-the-public-domain salary package.

      Their own license-payer-funded ‘top talent’ can be paid what they like with salary details unpublished and beyond even the FoI Act.

      Commercial sensitivity of course.

      How I love the smell of truly rank hypocrisy on a Sunday night.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      Another propaganda technique:

      False Cause: The order of some sequence or set of events is confused with actual causation. In propaganda the confusion is intentional.

      In this case the BBC either play down the Labour part in the story or do not mention it at all. The implication is to mislead the viewer/listener. Yet later the BBC can defend their propaganda by saying that they have never blamed this government.

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  21. John Anderson says:

    The BBC is forever turning to the New York Times for “news”.

    I bet they don’t pick up on the second part of this survey showing how uncharitable Muslims are – and how charitable Christians in America are.  

    http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2012/01/29/sunday-review/29giving-gfx.html?ref=sunday-review

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      Muslims give to Muslims – Christians (and Atheists) give to anyone. That is the difference.

      I am often in Newcastle City Centre where the “charity workers” , from Save the Tiger to Amnesty International are out in force most days and for some strange reason they target the locals. I have never ever seen them approach the “Chinese” or “Asian” “Communities” , now why is that?

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  22. John Anderson says:

    The BBC’s treatment of the murder of the Fogel family was sickening,  a low point.

    In all its coverage of Middle East affairs,  the BBC covers up the endless stream of Palestinian and Arab hatred towards Israel and Jews.

    Here is Palestinian TV singing the praises of the murderers of the Fogel family :

    http://bigpeace.com/jpollak/2012/01/29/palestinian-tv-praises-murderers-of-israeli-family/

    This endemic sickness throughout Arab society and in much of OFFICIAL Islam is brushed under the carpet by the BBC.   But the BBC leaps to give headline coverage to very occasional aberrant behaviour by US or British servicemen.

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  23. Martin says:

    So the Muslim twat in Canada has gone doen for the muder of his daughters, yet Radio 5 managed to avoid the use of the word MUSLIM in its report. 

    Un effing believable

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  24. Martin says:

    Now BBC News is reporting it and also avoiding the Muslim word. Oh hang on the camp male beeboid has just said it’s “devisive” for the Muslim community, pretty effing devisive for the women murdered you fat BBC arsehole.

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    • John Anderson says:

      . and the tragedy of the case in Canada is that the children appealed repeatedly to teachers and others for intervention,  saying that they daced real threats within the family.  But people did not intervene because it would look to be “anti-Muslim”.

      BBC-style political correctness can end up as a contributing factor to murders.  

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  25. John Anderson says:

    Another good article by David Rose at the Mail – Warmism is increasingly beoing shown to be a fraud based on fiddled statistics and unsound computer modelling.  The reality is that we could be facing serious cooling of the planet.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming–Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100133247/children-just-arent-going-to-know-what-sun-is/

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  26. Martin says:

    Spot the missing word.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16783354

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    • deegee says:

      It’s a little old but I doubt anything has changed.
      Q&A: Honour Killings

      So what constitutes honour? Is this is a religious issue?

      No. The world’s major religions do not play a part in these killings – although many of the guilty have tried to justify their actions on religious grounds.

      Damn those homocidal Epsicopalians  =-X

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  27. My Site (click to edit) says:

    ‘Lord’ Oakshott across our airwaves this morning telling me what the UK public is ‘fed sick of’.

    I suspect he will be a key invitee for the day if not days to come.

    Getting on any actual UK public to share what aspect of opportunistic tribal minority pols cynically grabbing what they can because it suits the minority views of clowns in production meetings and edit suites… not so much.

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  28. ap-w says:

    Just been listening the unbearable Start the Week with Andrew Marr purring at Paul Mason, an Eqyptian blogger and a Professor of Peace Studies. Dez will have noticed that I only caught the first 25 minutes of a 45 minute programme, and so it is perfectly possible that to balance things out the second half wasn’t a trypical BBC orgy of left wing cronyism, self-promotion and mutual back-slapping.

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    • deegee says:

      Position is important.Studies show that if you lead with a subject and end with it then that and not the middle will be what the viewer/reader will remember. Also every journalism student is taught that the closer to the beginning of a report information is placed the more likely it is to be read, at all.

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:

        Great point to make.

        Shame it may get missed as a new thread has kicked off.

        This goes to the heart of my fighting against the ‘our headlines may be inaccurate reflections of the story, but at least they fit’ meme the BBC is getting away with on screen and toutring in complaints blow off’.

        Will not do.

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