212 Responses to OPEN THREAD

  1. George R says:

    Beeboids re-living their student days by indulging in massive crowing on behalf of duped students at Crow’s strike HQ.

    Beeboids love to make political juvenile mischief, as usual, by trying to hype up a non-event.

    The less intelligent strand of British student life is quite put out by the fact that the British police, for once, stopped them wrecking up London.

    Daily Mail, in contrast has this:

    “No messing: Bid to occupy Trafalgar Square nipped in the bud as students protesting against fees are outnumbered by the police”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059366/Student-tuition-fees-protest-Bid-occupy-Trafalgar-Square-nipped-bud.html#ixzz1dFk2BgDg

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  2. Jonathan S says:

    these so called students are the future of this country, God help us!

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    • London Calling says:

      These are not real students. Real students are busy studying. These are for the most part little rich kid wasters, secure in the knowledge they will inherit mummy and daddys money and hope to avoid “work” altogether. They are not our future, thank <insert deity>

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  3. George R says:

    BBC-EU’s Robert PESTON’s latest magical ‘Keynesian’ economics:-  
     
     
    “BBC’s Robert Peston: ECB is capable of creating unlimited


    resources!”


    http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2011/11/bbcs_robert_pes.html  

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I heard that on last night’s 10 O’Clock News and wondered if I could have some of these unlimited funds, please.

      The sheer level of economic ignorance and stupidity is astounding.

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    • Geyza says:

      Technically he is correct. Central banks do have the power to create money out of thin air, and could create a theoretically unlimited amount.

      The Government could also legislate to create a one-off 1 trilion pound note, legislate to make it legal tender and pay off our nation’s debt at a stroke.

      National Governments do have the power to issue debt free currency.  In fact, the US constitution only allows for Congress to issue currency.

      Governments around the world have conceded that right to central banks who issue currency as debt.  Funny thing is, they never issue the interest.  It’s just like musical chairs.

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      • Grant says:

        Geyza,
        I think Germany tried this once  !!!!!!

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        • Geyza says:

          Indeed they did.  I never said it was a good policy, nor did I advocate its use, only that it is actually possible.

          Having said that, after the Wiemar Republic had destroyed the value of it’s own money and the German economy was routed for reparations after WW1, HOW did they turn that basket case economy round from the wreck it still was in 1933 to the global powerhouse it was by 1939?  What monetary system did they use that was so successful it took the combined might of the USA, Russia and the last of the British Empire to destroy it?

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          • Frederick Bloggs says:

            Printing money to basically pay off Italy’s debts is one possible solution and may not have to be that inflationary. It’s just that once you print 500bn euros, the next 500bn become all the more easy to print. Also, it should only be done if you get Italy to actually reform.

            That said, the German’s might like it as it would weaken the euro and so their exports will increase.

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          • Span Ows says:

            Fear, belief and lots of bullets.

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          • RGH says:

            Keynesianism boosted the Nazi economy but required expansion ie war to avoid the finacial collapse by 1942.

            The war was the steroid of deficit financing seeking to stave off collapse by seizing the resources of the rest of Europe to stabilise the Reichsmark.

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          • Grant says:

            Geyza,
            Yes, where is Adolf when we need him?  !!! 

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  4. ap-w says:

    Three days in and it’s apparent that the 15 minute extension to The World at One is as promised being used to analyse the important news stories of the day in more detail. On Monday it was used for a simpering interview with Bill Gates with Martha Kearney trying to get him to say that Tory backbenchers could put overseas aid at risk, and on Tuesday it was a simpering interview with Vicky Pryce about her political aspirations with her driving habits well off the discussion menu. But on Wednesday Martha really surpassed herself with – and I’m expecting you not to believe this so go check the i-player – a simpering interview with Bonnie Greer about an opera she has written about Nick Griffin’s appearance on Question Time.

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    • Buggy says:

      BBC Breakfast tried the same trick with Bill and Melinda Gates a while back. Didn’t get the response they so obviously wanted back then, either.

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    • Grant says:

      ap-w,
      Bonnie Greer’s opera. You are pulling our legs, surely ?

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      • John Anderson says:

        The piece on Bonny Greer’s “opera” – it sounded like pure parody but it did happen

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        • jarwill101 says:

            ‘My Bonnie lies over the Ocean’ – if only. And stayed there. If I have a spare moment I’ll start penning a libretto for a mini-opera, its ‘heroine’, an American race-hustler who believes that white people can never, ever, recompense black people for the evils of the slave trade. How about ‘The One-eyed Woman of Chicago’? She will carry on milking white liberal guilt until the 12th of Never, despite the British ending slaving two centuries ago. Perhaps Bonnie will one day accept the truth that slavery was a revolting collusion between whites & the blacks who sold their brothers & sisters for gain, & stop blaming contemporary white society for the sins of long ago. Why no mention of the even more disgusting Islamic slave trade, a trade of far greater duration? Perhaps she can knock-out a little opera about that. I’m sure the first night in Riyahd would be…incendiary.

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          • London Calling says:

            Unfashionable to say so, but as an unintended consequence of slavery, 37 million Afro-Americans in the US enjoy a standard of living probably 1,000 times greater than those of their ancestors who simply remained in their African tribal villages to this day.
            I’d love to see Bonnie Greer set that to music.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              Maybe Greer should just limit that to a scene about how the evil white Europeans adopted the slave trade from the Mohammedans in the Barbary coast. 

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            • grangebank says:

              I will pay reparations to any victim of the slave trade . I will sell my house , business ,patents ,car , and give all my cash .
              The conditions are that any victim can prove that all his/her ancestors would have met up , copulated at the time they did , begat the next in line , who would fertilise the eggs to produce the next in line all the way down to the complainant of today , and that they would be even in excistence , never mind wealthier .
              Otherwise they can shut up complaining .

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    • Grant says:

      Speaking of Chris Huhne, why is it taking the CPS so long to decide whether to prosecute him or not  ( or have I missed the decision  ?  )   ?   Do I smell the faint whiff of corruption  ?  

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    • Frederick Bloggs says:

      Maybe you misheard and Bonnie Greer is actually going to be writing some stuff for “Oprah”

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    • Jeff Waters says:

      Greer on the Question Time with Griffin – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222441/Question-Time-panellist-launches-extraordinary-attack-BNP-leader-Nick-Griffin.html

      I wonder if Greer realises how ignorant she comes across:

      She told the London Evening Standard he had deliberately waited for her before the show in a bid to ingratiate himself.

      ‘When he saw me, he turned and smiled his greasy smile and clumsily half extended a hand,’ she said. 

      ‘I ignored it and thought to myself: what are you about? Are you forgetting I’m black?

      Jeff

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  5. BBCwaste says:

    Team, screenshots please and a BBC-Bias write up please on this tool: https://twitter.com/#!/DaftLimmy 

    Disgraceful comments and he deserves to be sacked … why should we fund this?

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  6. BBCwaste says:

    Perhaps you might like to write the Controller of BBC Scotland who employees this man like I did, [email protected]

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  7. Louis Robinson says:

    Here’s a translation of Mark Mardell latest words of wisdom: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15628860)

    “The instant reaction is that it is all over for Cain” – at least, that’s what all my Liberal chums are telling me.

    “The detailed claims, which sound more like sexual assault than harassment, are graphic and extremely serious” – note the word “detailed” = they must be true. And Mardell’s distant interpretation of the charges as being (in his informed view) much more serious than being admitted.

    “But he denies the allegations and they can hardly be proved after all these years” – There’s no doubt, folks, this man did it.

    “Meanwhile, right wing talk radio is already full of fury at the way the “liberal media” will do anything to destroy a conservative front runner”. Wrong Mark. Make that a black conservative front runner

    “Many of his supporters simply won’t believe what is being said about their favourite candidate. If another woman came forward with a detailed account that might change their minds”. = Five false allegations are more convincing than four. Let’s see now how many allegations were they against Bubba?

    “If it is not yet terminal, it is doing great damage. The scandal drowns out any other message. The cloud will hang over him, and any opponent will have sunnier prospects.” = Reporters like me will mention this over and over again like they did with John Edwards – Who? Note to Mardell, look up John Edwards in your contacts – he’s the one who isn’t there!

    “In the unlikely event that he became the Republican nominee with this still unresolved, it would be gold dust for Obama’s campaign.”  – And we, at the BBC, will make sure of this.”

    By the way, I love it when people show their skirts with a misplaced word. Don’t you love “fury” as applied to talk radio? Fury = a mindless, vicious anger as opposed to the sensible, gentlemanly, thoughtful, insightful, measured words of…(fill in the blank)

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    • Grant says:

      “My Liberal chums “.  What are your non-Liberal chums saying, Mark ?  Or don’t you have any ?  What a tosser  !

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    • Geyza says:

      He did not reckon on Perry losing it in the debate in such a cringeingly appalling and embarrasing way.

      oops!

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      • Louis Robinson says:

        Geyza, I agree. It was one of TV’s most cringing moments.  
        Perry is (was?) the result of the tea party’s wishful thinking. An “anybody but Romney” candidate with a campaign which increasingly looks doomed. Conservatives (like me) will have to wait 4 more years to make our case again – but this time with a wealth of candidates to choose from (the 2009 intake). Let’s hope that 4 years are not Obama years.  
        If I sound pessimistic its because of things i’ve heard that lead me to believe that the full force of the Republican establishment is behind Romney. It appears when Cain went to them for help with damage control last week and they refused to help. The next candidate to be attacked from all sides will be Gingrich. I like Gingrich, heard him speak often, but in media terms “flawed”. Cain will be the last man standing and then the real attack will come – as a cancer survivor they’ll question his health. Politics is a dirty business.  
        I look forward to David P putting me right on some of this. I bow to his insight. For now, I’m simply watching.

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        • Millie Tant says:

          Is there no one on the Republican side who isn’t flawed, who has experience, intelligence, good instincts, policies and ideas and broad appeal? Are they really going to go for another candidate with no experience of political office? The Democratics can’t complain about that, of course, but still you’d think the electorate might worry, considering.

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          • Louis Robinson says:

            Millie Tant, A prediction? After a robust fight, the right will swallow its collective pride, accept Romney with a “Tea Party” VP and live to fight another day. I think most thinking people will vote for a ham sandwich rather than Obama, even for a Strepford candidate like Romney.
            (More inside gen on Cain. Rumblings that his campaign manager is crap. Watch this space.)  

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          I can’t argue with you, Louis. Romney has always been the Republican Establishment’s choice, as he is one of them, and wouldn’t stop the gravy train. Perry probably would have run even without the existence of the Tea Party, but Cain and even Gingrich are in the race pretty much only because of the movement.

          We’ve seen over the last year how the Republican Establishment has been running scared of the Tea Party, as the movement has changed the face of the House, and added a couple key new ones to the Senate.  If the Tea Party takes over Congress completely, the gravy train will be over for the Establishment, which is their greatest fear.  Congress, I think, is where the Tea Party should and will focus most of its energy.  But that will get very ugly if the President wins a second term.  It’s not looking good either way.

          I don’t see Romney defeating the incumbent, partially because he won’t inspire enough independents, even with a Tea Party-backed VP, and the mainstream media, Hollywood, and the youth who have been horribly inspired by the Occupiers will be out in force.  ACORN has been reactivated under another name, and thanks to the media they have an enemy to fight against in Evil Bankers and Corporate Greed, neither of which will be honestly nailed to the President’s mast.  Romney made his money in the finance industry, so is an easy target there.

          The media’s arrogance and total disdain for the Tea Party movement made them understimate our effect last November, and they really got caught out.  Some here may remember the total bewilderment at the BBC about how this movement “came out of nowhere” to take over the House, and nearly the Senate.  The media will not make that mistake again.  Right now, though, the Tea Party movement seems to be in a holding pattern except for the two national organizations, which desperately needs to change.

          In four years’ time, there will definitely be a few quality Republicans ready for prime time, but I don’t think the country can wait that long.

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          • Louis Robinson says:

            Thanks David. I tihnk I’ll go and lie down in a darkened room. Four more years of Obama. Arghh!

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Mardell’s piece reads like a huge sigh of relief, with a couple of his usual digs at certain radio personalities whom he and the Left hate with a passion.  His venom for them is pretty obvious, as is his disgust with anyone who would continue to support Cain.

      He was completely wrong about Cain’s candidacy from the start – we’re all witness to his willful blindness there – and now this seems to be the end of it, so Mardell can go back to pretending he’s been right all along.

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      • Louis Robinson says:

        Mark Mardell please read:
        http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Interesting find, Louis. I remember Jack Ryan (and his ex-wife, 7 of 9, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 01).  I’m aware that The Obamessiah won the Senate election because of it.  That was definitely a Chicago-machine hit.

          But I don’t trust Coulter, so have to reserve judgment on this eerily close coincidence between Axelrod and Bialek, and the whole Chicago element, until I get more info.  So far the only thing I know that kills Bialek’s credibility is that she has previous on false accusations.

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  8. Grant says:

    Robert Peston starts his latest blog  “The eurozone faces an existential crisis “.  
    Would any of my learned friends on B-BBC care to explain what on earth he means by that  ? 

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    • Grant says:

      Peston says “reason dictates” that Germany will have to bail out Italy.
      Poor little Beeboids, clutching at straws. They just can’t believe it is all going wrong.
      Me ?  I am loving every minute of it  !!!

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      • Barry says:

        Me too. It’s payback time for all those insults directed against people who said that a one size fits all policy couldn’t work.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Part of me is loving it because I was right all along.  Another part worries about where the hell this will all lead.

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        • My Site (click to edit) says:

          It’ll be tough for a while, but can you put a price on freedom and democracy?
          True Brits will stay here, but it may clear all the unwanted scum out so we can start again.

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    • As I See It says:

      Peston is still plugging the leftist pipe dream that because the Greeks and Italians have spent themselves into crisis therefore it must follow that the Germans should bail them out.

      This is basic left wing dogma. The hardworking should always give to the feckless poor.

      Our Teutonic friends however are not that daft and – I suspect – not so wedded to euro-unity that they will happily write the massive blank cheque required.

      Afterall there is a good case that having Italy as an ally lost their grandfathers World War Two. With France at heel and Britain sidelined unfortunately Mussolini got so bogged down in his war with the Greeks in 1940 that Hitler had to plunge resorces into the Balkans thereby delaying his assault on Russia by some crucial months and extending his eastern front too far south.

      History repeats itself, first as tragedy then economically?

      The Benelux can afford to stay in and France will cling desperately to Germany.

      When the southern states are cast out of the Euro it will have to be done suddenly and with certain secret contingencies in place and poor old Pesto sure won’t be telling us beforehand.

      The leftist political euro dream is over. Bring it on.

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      • Barry says:

        “The leftist political euro dream is over.”

        Good. But what are they going to turn their attention to next? Another “big idea”? Another failure?

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      • Martin says:

        I don’t know though, I sort of agree, but even the BBC admitted this morning that most Germans oppose the bailouts whilst the political elite of Germany are all in favour. Yet again we see the views of the people in Europe overridden by the political elite.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Spot on, Martin. How long can that last, I wonder?  None of the countries getting bailed out are actually going to change their unsustainable welfare states or be able to create a real foundation for growth, so all this bailout money will be wasted.  This will all come up again next year.

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          • Reed says:

            The problem is that, like some of the banks, the whole EU project and the Euro has become too big to fail, so they’ll do anything they can to save it (and save face) no matter how bad it gets for the rest of us. As William Hague said, it’s like a burning building with no exits, which means I think we’re stuck in the nightmare whether we like it or not. Unless we were to get a referendum, which we all know is never going to happen now. I’m afraid we’re lumbered with this ever growing union. The more ugly it becomes the more skeptic the people across Europe will become, but the more likely the political elites will be to enforce unity. It’s going to get much worse. How long before the riots and protests over austerity measures turn into anti-EU protests when people start to wake up to the real problem.

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  9. Grant says:

    Driving on wednesday, I clicked on to Woman’s Hour just in time to hear a Beeboidess , in hushed reverential tones, announce that the  ” Queen of Sheba is one of the principal people in the Koran “. There followed a piece with another Beeboidess and an Islamic scholar.
    Of course, it is a recurring theme on this site, but the BBC’s obsession with Islam is almost psychopathic.
    Do we ever hear much about Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists  etc. etc.  ?
    It is positively surreal.

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    • Lloyd says:

      The BBC grasps, with both hands, any story or tale which might show that Islam isn’t the mysoginistic “faith” that we all know it to be.

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      • Grant says:

        Agreed, Lloyd, but why  ??? 
         I really don’t understand.
        Woman’s Hour should be campaigning against the treatment of women under Islam.  Why are they not ?
        Why are Beeboids’ minds so perverted and twisted  ?
        Why the hypocrisy ?  Why the dishonesty ?
        Most normal people find it easier to tell the truth than lie. ?
        What is the problem with Beeboids  ?

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Grant, the Beeboids are wondering the same thing about you.  That’s why they do this stuff: they are convinced that the majority of the public blindly hate Islam and are within a hair’s breadth of lashing out and killing Muslims in the street and demanding deportation of all of them.  Our conversations on this matter a couple years ago with “John Reith” proved this.

          The BBC management believe that they must educate you, continue to expose you to positive views of Islam so that the innate racism of the Englishman (and Scot, when it comes to Islam) is kept at bay.

          Your opinion is meaningless to them. They believe this is within their remit, and will not stop.

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          • Grant says:

            David P,
            I suspect you are right.
            As I have only lived in 3 muslim countries and my wife is a muslim, I guess I need to be educated by the vastly more knowledgeable Beeboids !
            On a lighter note, I had lunch today in the Holiday Inn, Edinburgh today with a Pakistani muslim friend. I took great delight in pointing out to him that there were no halal dishes on the menu. He replied, yes there is one, and ordered fish and chips. I was even more delighted to discover that it was hake !   

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        • Millie Tant says:

          Ruth Deech, Labour lawyer and head of Bar discipline, gave it away a couple of years ago on Any Questions? when she bleated in hurt bewilderment, But we didn’t say anything about the treatment of women, meaning that they (they = our bien pensant Labour ruling establishment) had not spoken out about the abuse of women by adherents of the religion of peace. This it seems was some sort of secret policy. Was it something tacit, understood but not spoken aloud, a shared perception that they had better not say anything about abuses because 1) well, that would be raaaaaaacist wouldn’t it, according to official doctrine and 2) even more important, who knew what those tricky and excitable Muslims might do if anyone dared say Boo to them?  

          We all know the sort of somersaults these people can undertake when it comes to dealing with groups they have designated as special.

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  10. Ben says:

    Interesting piece by Charles Crawford in the Telegraph about being asked to help with a BBC R4 programme.  The researcher asked him “Are the markets controlling governments and threatening democracy?”

    Very reasonable and well argued response from Mr Crawford.  But he never got the call back to say it on air.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      The threat to democracy seem more from entities that claim to be impartial whilst pushing their beliefs and supressing anything that does not suit.

      That one has to pay for this is injury over insult. And unique.

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    • Grant says:

      The real question is “why are the EU politicians trying to control markets and threaten democracy ?  “.  But don’t expect that to ever be asked on the BBC.

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  11. My Site (click to edit) says:

    Still no word from the ‘Green’ Party or LibLabCon to thank me for providing them with such high quality campaign material. Ungrateful bastards!
    Perhaps their useful idiots will be a little more appreciative:

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  12. My Site (click to edit) says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15666269

    ‘Is there anybody out there?’

    Interersting headline from a man whose ‘blog’ seems to have gone broadcast only now (last 3. 4th closed at 54, of a 25,000,000 fee payer base. Unique)

    Why ask questions if there is no mechanism for hearing the answers?

    The BBC: speaking fo.. at the nation

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Ms. Flanders’ blog seems to have stalled as well, perhaps to allow some ‘moving on’ time between what she writes and the real world to pass un-noticed by her groupies.

      Meanwhile, Mr. Easton’s latest has managed… 19.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15622807

      Ironic given the topic is what works. Or doesn’t. From a BBC perspective.

      Mr. Black has retreated again behind the block wall of watertight oversight that is twitter.

      Mr. Mason has staggered to 38 4 days ago, though to be fair is doubtless at Laurie Penny’s bedside nursing her ‘wound’.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Am I the only one who just doesn’t get Twitter?  I can’t figure out who’s saying what to whom.

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        • Natsman says:

          I wouldn’t give twitter room space, let along computer time.  Most of what is said is as unimportant as those who it is being said to, and by whom it is being said.

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:

        Blimey, just went to Nick Robinson’s blog to have some fun with fellowposters on this NI inquiry (where the feat of making an oily weasel like young Murdoch sympathetic is only possible with thugs like Watson, smug peroxide sinks like Mensch and the forgettable crew of Parliamentary hypocrites they form part), and it’s still all broadcast only, with what this nitwit ‘feels’, ‘thinks’ and ‘suggests’.

        That’s what a blog is for, to take apart such risible ‘reporting’.

        He hasn’t just gone off reservation with the blessing of his propaganda driven masters, he’s now climbed the mountain and is up on the peak shrieking down at those he thinks are ‘below’, and care a hoot.

        Note to BBC/employees: just because we have to pay for what you say, doesn’t mean we have to believe it. Especially piped in like chants through tinny speakers at N. Korean re-edeucation camps.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      He’s just pining for a real economist and world leader, someone with flare and charisma. Where are you Gordon?

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      • Grant says:

        Yes, isn’t it strange that no-one has asked Gordon the Moron to come to the rescue ? Is it because he is useless and everyone hates his guts, I wonder ?

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        • Barry says:

          Wasn’t he supposed to be applying his famous intelligence to a book?  
           
          What happened, did I miss it?

          Has he spent the proceeds in advance?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Robinson’s post is idiotic, and shows just how far into the bubble he’s gone.  Typical eliteist PPE drivel.  He wonders why none of these trans-national groups don’t think this is their mess to fix?  What a fool.  The whole point is that they can’t and won’t until either the problem countries fix themselves, or the concept of the nation state in Europe ends and the EU mandarins can direct the economies and budgets of Greece et al.

      In fact, Robinson’s closing line shows that he really has lost the plot:


      but even now with so much at stake it seems it is the markets and not politicians who are in charge.

      A sane person would be saying, “And it’s about time, as the politicians have [email protected]#@ed the markets for far too long.”

      Robinson should stick to passing along selected bits of the latest Westminster gossip and protecting MPs from public ire and leave the big picture issues to people with a clue.

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  13. John Anderson says:

    So ridiculous of Mardell to suggest that Herman Cain is finished.  Damaged yes,  having to fight back yes,  with all the problems of trying to prove a negative.

    But Mardell fails to recognise the gathering sense that many feel this has all been a pile-on,   an exaggerated media response (of which he is part),  and many doubts have been cast on the accusers.

    Plus Cain looks and sounds much more robust now in his denials,  he is getting his response together better than the shambles of the first few days.

    I don’t know where it will all lead.  But Cain still has very strong following,  there has been no implosion of support as happened with Edwards because the Edwards mess was clearly fact not allegations.

    Mardell remains a very shallow commentator.  And as usual,  he has failed to bring us a full account of what has been happening,  the arguments per and contra – he is mostly just pushing his own liberal-bubble opinions.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/09/cain_gets_major_applause_at_debate_after_dismissing_harassment_claim.html

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Mardell seems to have access to a lot of salacious details that the rest of us have read about only as unsubstantiated rumors, and don’t even match what the accusers have themselves said publicly.  So far, anyway.  I wonder if he’s been handed something from his Beltway media buddies or even the White House?

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  14. john says:

    Live feed from Westminster is currently being broadcast.
    James Murdoch is appearing before a Select Committee.
    At the bottom of the screen, Sky have used the words :
    Hacking Inquiry
    The BBC however, have gone for :
    Phone Hacking Scandal

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Tom Watson called Murdoch a “mafia boss” during the questioning.  No libel there?

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Parliamentary privilege, I think.

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        • Grant says:

          Murdoch should have walked out , then demanded a public apology.     

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            I’d have thought this would give Murdoch an opportunity to claim that the whole hearing was unfair and shoudl be dropped, since one of the MPs on the panel has already made his decision.  The BBC seems to think this is fine, though, as they keep replaying it.

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            • Grant says:

              I saw a clip on Sky news this evening and I thought Murdoch was quite dignified ( I have no brief for him, I ought to say.  Watson was just his usual 3rd rate, low-level backbencher , prattish self.
              According to Guido, Watson is very tired and emotional most evenings, so maybe this affects his performance during the day !

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  15. Deborah says:

    My radio came on this morning just in time to hear ‘Yesterday in Parliament’ on the Today programme. 

    Sad person that I am yesterday I listened to the Prime Minister answering questions on Immigration and the Home Office.  But funny thing is that the clips I heard today just didn’t reflect what I heard and saw yesterday.  Today present the PM’s questions as though the Millipede had ‘scored’ againt DC who ‘hadn’t got the figures EM asked for’ – technically true but they were ones impossible to calculate; then by cutting out DC’s response that the changes had resulted in more effective controls for which he did quote figures the whole balance was altered.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Ah, that BBC edit suite.

      Nice to control the message that is beamed to the nation with a £4B budget behind it.

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    • Grant says:

      I watched it live. I have no brief for Cameron, but he got the better of Miliband and listed all Labour’s immigration failures when in office.

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      • ltwf1964 says:

        it staggers me that liebore can even ask questions without having a massive redener on their faces

        10 years of open borders and letting the scum of the earth walk in here with anyone who objected being accused of “racism”

        beggars belief-shameless hustlers

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  16. John Anderson says:

    Mardell appears to have ignored Newt Gingrich – even though the guy stands to pick up any support draining from Perry and Cain,  has done very well in the various debates, and could very easily become  the leading “Not Romney” candidate for the primaries.

    If that is what happens – it will all happen without Mardell or the US team reporting on the revival of Gingrich’s chances – the BBC audience will be presented with another “surprise”.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Mardell’s Left-wing Beltway thought leaders have ignored Gingrich as well.  Not without some good reason, I think, since he’s had some problems.  But Mardell thinks what they think, and so doesn’t bother to notice that Gingrich has made a comeback over the last few weeks since a bunch of his staff quit on him.  Mardell also thought Cain was never going anywhere, and look how that turned out.

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      • Grant says:

        To be fair, it must be difficult for Beeboids to decide which candidate they hate the most.

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  17. George R says:

    Showing its political priorities, INBBC gave this ‘breaking’ item only one line of its attention on lunchtime TV news:

    “MUSLIMS AGAINST CRUSADES BANNED”

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/282933/Muslims-Against-Crusades-banned/Muslims-Against-Crusades-banned

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  18. Martin says:

    Dame Nicola Campbell was on fine form this morning sticking up for the Euro, he had Bill Cash and our old friend Dennis McShane on. Next to Keith Vaz is there a bigger slimeball in Nu Liebore than McShane?

    McShame got far more airtime than Cash did and got an easier ride off Dame Nikki.

    Mcshit as I prefer to call him seemed to have ignored 13 years of Nu Liebore failure and somehow tried to blame the Tories for the current mess.

    McShit’s answer seemed to be borrow more money to employ lesbian 5 a day co-ordinators, even though the beeboid in the studio pointed out that as the Euro zone has higher interest rates they are getting more investment money.

    The BBC seem unwilling to admit that their beloved Euro is on its final legs.

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    • Grant says:

      Did “Dame Nicola ” ask McShane if he still thinks the UK should join the Euro ?
      Did he ask him about his expenses claims ?

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  19. My Site (click to edit) says:

    @davidfolkenflik David Folkenflik Mensch annoyed by new revelations – asks Murdoch to publicize “every nefarious activity” before they’re exposed in Guardian or BBC
    Noticed that too.
    Though there is perhaps more to that last sentence than was meant.
    Since when were these two tasked with focussing on competitive media they don’t happen to like?

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Just had a quick tweetsurf to catch up.

      Of all the news, what did I get from the objective national broadcaster:

      BBCBreaking BBC Breaking News Watch the moment when News International chief James #Murdoch was accused of being a ‘mafia boss’ by Tom Watson MP: bbc.in/sdN17n
      Now it may be that they, like all professional observers, felt this was beyond the pale by a deranged opportunistic hypocrite emboldened by hate and minority celebrity, and hence worth focussing upon, but there’s a small suspicion the gentically impartial objective national broadcaster might be sitting watching this over and over with a pack of Kleenex in one and the fingers of the other hand crossed as their perceived least best bud gets abused by their favourite son.. of a..

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  20. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Tim Willcox just made some mouthpiece campaigning against a private firm’s takeover of an NHS hospital look like a total idiot.  The guy was taking the usual line of whining about how evil profits would affect care.  After some waffling, Willcox got him to talk about reality, and the guy claimed that figures in the budget proposal for this deal meant that they’d have to cut staff, proving that the evil profiteers would be sacking staff in order to get that filthy lucre.

    Willcox then pointed out that, even though a private firm was taking over management of the hospital, the employees still worked for the NHS, and only the NHS would be doing any sacking.  The campaigner had no idea how to reply.  He started looking left and right, lips flapping but no sound coming out, then said something like, “Yeah, exactly right, the NHS will be…er…they’ll have to consulte with…um…the figures in this budget show that they may have to…er….”

    In other words, the NHS might be cutting jobs (nobody knows yet, obviously, but that doesn’t stop the cries), but in this case it’s the fault of the private sector.  When the NHS cuts jobs due to nasty Tory boudget cuts, these people demand more money be poured into it.  But when a private firm comes in with the money, they don’t want it.

    A segment the News Channel showed earlier about this issue featured some woman nearly in tears saying that this was “venture capitalists” taking over the NHS.  Oh, the humanity.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Slight correction: The News Channel just replayed that clip with the teary-eyed woman.  She said, “This is venture capitalism” getting into “public service”.  It’s the first step towards the “privatization of the NHS”.  She doesn’t care about care, she’s just against capitalism.

      If people like this really believe that the profit motive should be banned from health care because it’s some innate human right or whatever, surely more immediate and basic needs like food an shelter need to be addressed first.  How is food and shelter not an innate human right which the government must provide for all, but health care is?  These people are acting out of ideology, not humanity.

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    • Martin says:

      As Guido Fawkes has pointed out this private firm ws invited in by one Andy Burnham for Labour health secretary, don’t expect the BBC to report that though.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Hah, I didn’t know that.  Because I just trusted the BBC and didn’t look elsewhere for myself.

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    • London Calling says:

      The NHS has always “cut jobs” however it’s budget has also always grown year on year, and another job taken the place of the one cut. An NHS without constant change would still have nightingale wards and leeches. The fact some people simper over misinformed and malicious disinformatiuon is not “news”. Unless of course you prefer to broadcast “opinion” as fact. Its called the bBC.

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  21. My Site (click to edit) says:

    As we all know, Ms. Flanders is deemed a sage on matters economic, at least in some quarters. In others,… not so much.

    But I was intrigued by this highly ‘liked’ (by a loyal grouie corps) comment, that I am not sure is quite the best defence foir her contributions that may have been hoped for…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/15676704

    41. Andy 

    28.Amused2Death – “From top to bottom today’s blog is total drivel – not News just guestimated opinion”

    yes mate, that’s what a blog is. This isn’t an ‘official’ BBC news feed. Its meant to be exactly what you are complaining it is. Get real.

    So…. a BBC reporter’s blog is, like twitter, nothing to do with the BBC either. Is there anything they will own up to?

    Maybe the public would benefit from a parliamentray commitee harnaguing our beloved national treasure, being they seem to get £4Bpa of our compelled funding to piss up a wall.

     

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  22. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The BBC is ecstatic that Rick Perry had a brain-freeze last night. They’ve only played the clip five times in the last hour, and Tim Willcox has giggled at it every time.

    Mardell says Perry is finished, and – once again – claims to be able to read minds.  Mardell says that Perry was talking out of his ass anyway, and had no real plan to cut the Dept. of Energy.

    If he was serious about his proposal he would have thought long and hard about what the Department of Energy does, whether any of its functions had to be replicated elsewhere, what the implications would be for the oil and gas industry. Sure, you can forget a name. It is much harder to forget a concept you have been wrestling with.

    Obviously Mardell is unaware that Perry has been dealing with the issue for years.  In a speech last month, Perry didn’t call for the end of the Dept. of Energy, but did say he wanted to end all the subsidies from it which distort the market.  So he knows perfectly well what it does.  Mardell, of course, hates the idea because he’s a Socialist who thinks government always knows and does best.  Killing a department is unthinkable to him.

    Perry probably screwed up because he only recently decided to add the theme of killing three departments to his repertoire.  So Mardell is probably right about the superficial aspect, but wrong about the substance.  Typical.

    Of course, Mardell also now backtracks a bit from his opinion yesterday that Herman Cain is obviously guilty.  If his track record on judging these things is anything to go by, we can probably expect a Perry/Cain or Cain/Perry ticket next November.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Forgot to mention that Mardell left out the part where the audience booed loudly when one of the GE-owned CNBC interrogators tried to attack Cain on the sexual harrassment issue.

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  23. George R says:

    TURKEY and INBBC.

    The devastation of yet another earthquake is sad; but INBBC seems to have stopped reporting on the politics of Turkey.

    Given that INBBC and the EU and UK political class want Islamising Turkey as an EU member as soon as possible, reports like the following are relegated or ignored:

    1.) from ‘Stop Turkey’:

    http://stopturkey.blogspot.com/

    2. ‘Jihadwatch’ today:

    Turkey: Non-Muslims protest special tax from which Muslims are exempt

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    • noggin says:

      ahh well, G thats just one of the joys of friends in high places, don t you knowObama hugs an Islamic supremacist

      “G20 summit, Obama shook the hand of every world leader, singling out only one for a warm hug: Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the venomously anti-Israel Islamic supremacist prime minister who is destroying Kemalist secularism and turning Turkey back into an Islamic state”

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        That must be another example of what Justin Webb called “sophistry in the matter of confusing His enemies”.  The only question is who one thinks of as enemies.

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      • Grant says:

        noggin,
        Erdogan is a fascist b*****d.
        He makes Obama look pretty reasonable, but Obama should not be touching him with a bargepole. 
        Is Obama aware of Erdogan’s personal history and methods ? Probably not. If he is, it makes his actions even worse.   

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        • noggin says:

          one can surmise, with his penchant for all the changes ala “Arab Spring” he is well in the know on the er “climate change” in Turkey too.

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  24. Martin says:

    The excellent Tom Bradby on ITV tore into fatty Tom Watson tonight saying basically he made a prick of himself on TV.

    Then ITV pointed out the unsettling thing that two Countries, Italy and Greece have replaced thier Government without a single vote being cast.

    I don’t expect Merkel to care, she’s an east German thug, probably enjoys dressing up as Hitler, but the rest of Europe should hang its heads in shame.

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    • dave s says:

      Being lectured on democracy by the Germans , French and the rest of the EU nomenclature is more than I can stand. The EU in it’s present form  is over but these people will drag us down with them unless Cameron gets a grip.
      The truth is the EU is terrified we will leave for then it really will be over. But like all wounded animals it is getting dangerous in it’s death throes. What price anti EU speech anywhere being criminalised  by these apparatchniks? Even here if they had their way.

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      • Grant says:

        dave s,
        You may not be far from the truth. I don’t know what the current situation is, but there were some plans years ago to make insulting the EU a criminal offence.

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    • Graham Evans says:

      When George Papadreou decided to call that referendum, I could just hear those unspoken words: ” VE ask ze Qvestions dumpkopf”

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  25. cjhartnett says:

    I did say last month that the BBC were camped out in LA and gathering quotes to try and get Murdoch off NewsCorps etc.
    One month on and the BBC are gossiping over the garden fence to anyone who cares or still listens to them…did you SEE who that young man was taliking to last night etc…
    All this on the day that the Euro is shown for the charade it is…and the likes of Shirley Williams and Richard Lambert are solicited for their ever-so-august opinions. This despite their desperate efforts to force us into the doomed currency only twelve years ago…but no mention of their histories from any lilypad the BBC finds them gracing.
    This too on the day when Circle took over an NHS hospital…the woman who spoke for them was as much a masterpiece of positivity and management gloop as Birt or Blair. No wonder Justin Webb found interviewing her as akin to nailing jelly to the walls.
    if the BMA and Unite don`t like it…it has got to be a good thing.
    The NHS has been run like a Lableft JobClub for the “health professionals” for years now…which is why the elderly quake at these “caring professionals” being let loose on the wards to ” minister” to them.
    Remember Stafford…Ipswich…Alder Hey…all beloved by the BMA, RCN and Unison.

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  26. cjhartnett says:

    Having just seen Tom Watson make himself look very silly, I hope Murdoch gives thanks to God tonight for being born at such a time.
    To have enemies like Watson or Johnny Marbles…it`s as good for NewsCorp as Sarkozy/Obama are for Israel.
    That the BBC continues to slurp from the trough that the likes of Watson and Sarkozy etal wash their smalls in is a joy. The moral battlelines are so obvious, as if all shades of grey and nuance are removed. As if you`d have to be in a gold casket not to see how transparently stupid and partial the Beeb are…only the political class and their munchkins at the BBC/Guardian don`t see it.  

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    • james1070 says:

      There was odd coverage on the BBC News about the Murdoch inquiry. The voice over claimed there were victims of Murdoch on the panel and they could take revenge by asking questions and are now retiring for judgement.

      So they have given a game away, the inquiry is a like a kangaroo court. What happened to impartial Brirish justice?

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      • Grant says:

        There is something to be said for these committees, but their main function seems to be to give no-hoper backbenchers a platform to let off steam and prevent them causing trouble elsewhere.
        For most of them , it is their moment of glory. In their puffed up self-importance , they fail to realise that , at the end of the day, they are merely third-rate politicians who contribute very little to society.  

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  27. Teddy Bear says:

    Wonderful article by Charles Crawford in The Telegraph describing an invitation he had by BBC’s Radio 4 to participate in a programme on the eurozone. It appears that in the exploratory phone conversation prior to the show, since he didn’t give the answers the way they wanted to slant it, they didn’t pick him after all.

    You can deduce what the BBC were after:Do markets threaten democracy?

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  28. John Horne Tooke says:

    This would be brilliant amuntion for the BBC to rub Daves nose in it. If it was any other policy they would not hesitate.

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  29. Martin says:

    Most here know I think Tom Bradby is one of the few decent TV journalists out there, I’ve always found him to be fair and balanced, I’ve never suspected him of being a closet Socialist or Tory.

    Check out his latest blog on phone hacking and you’ll see exactly what I mean, no third rate beeboid like Peston, Robinson, Bowen, Easton, Mason will ever come up to Bradby’s ankles.

    No wonder he has the trust of Prince William and Harry.

    http://blog.itv.com/news/tombradby/2011/11/phone-hacking-the-movie/

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Bradby refreshingly comes across as a journalist rather than an insider gossip or scold.  No sarcasm or weak attempts at levity, either.

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      • Martin says:

        During the Nu Liebore years Bradby seemed to be cut out of the Downing Street loop, it was always Toenails, Peston or Easton who got Bliar and Brown stories first.

        I don’t think Liebore liked the fact Bradby wasn’t a stooge like the BBC lot.

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        • Reed says:

          I agree, Martin. Tom Bradby is a quality journalist who cuts through the crap and tells it straight, with none of the BBC blather or  ‘quirkiness’ of Nick Robinson. I find him especially useful and ‘to the point’ during election campaigns.

          I also notice on his twitter feed that people aften accuse him of being a ‘Tory‘ or ‘in league with the bankers‘ or ‘in the pay of Murdoch‘. I guess some people are so used to seeing the BBC/CH4 News take on events as the norm that the one journalist that doesn’t fit into that coterie must have some sort of hidden agenda.

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          • Grant says:

            Reed,
            Quite agree. It is impossible to tell what Bradby’s political views are. Therefore, he must be a Tory !

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  30. George R says:

    Apparently, INBBC is in the Arab Spring (Islamic Winter) tourism business, writing commercials for ‘Arab Spring’ tourism.

    This article by INBBC’s Will SMALE reads like a plug for some mythical/utopian ‘Arab Spring’ tourism: sunshine without the jihad and sharia. -Must be especially wonderful for women.

    First, ‘Jihadwatch’ today on Egypt:

    Egypt: Women Herded and Tied Like Camels

    But, INBBC’s ‘on political message’ Mr SMALE doesn’t see that; he’s only interested in  promoting some ‘Arab Spring’ notion:

    “Arab nations aim to win back tourists”

    -by one who wants them to, and believes the Islamic propaganda: INBBC’s Mr Smale.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15651730

    A reminder for INBBC’s Mr Smale: a different commercial for ‘Arab Spring’

    -from Glenn BECK (and Brian SACKS):

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/05/25/graphic-content-brian-sacks-horrifying-arab-spring-commercial/

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  31. John Anderson says:

    Newt Gingrich tells a media they have no clue about economics or US history.  At which point a media bimbo tries to contradict him – and gets the smackdown she deserved.

    I like Newt’s challenge to media to ask real questions of the Occupy idiots.

    Classic.

    http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2011/11/10/sound-bite-for-the-day-gingrich-vs-bartiromo/

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    • Grant says:

      John,
      Thanks for that clip.
      I don’t know much about Newt, but none of the spineless wimpos who pass for politicians in the UK would have the guts to criticise the media the way he did.
      Newt for for British PM  !!!!

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      I would have dearly love to have seen her face at that moment.

      But never fear, a fleet of twitter counsellors from within her very insular bubble will circle and convince her to accuse him of some ‘ism or other for showing yet another of our brain-dead media estate to be there simply for ratings, aganda or both.

      One is sure that if the BBC ran this, the edit would be very different.

      I am fed up being compelled to pay for such edits that turn fact into propaganda.

      It is not news, and ‘opinion’ by a single-track bloc of opionated hive drones is not ‘analysis’.

      Yet with £4Bpa, it is churned out 24/7 throughout the land.

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  32. Geyza says:

    I have just seen a science article on the 10 o clock news by Fergus Walsh.  It claimed that people in a persistant vegititive state still had perceptual brain patterns and could be receptive to outside stimuli.

    Fergus had his brain scanned and it showed that his brain activity was the same as someone in a persistant vegititave state.

    I would have thought that that would apply to all BBC journalists.

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  33. David Preiser (USA) says:

    You know your movement’s over when:  
     
    Tuberculosis Breaks Out At Occupy Atlanta’s Base  
     
    The home base for Occupy Atlanta has tested positive for tuberculosis.  
     
    The Fulton County Health Department confirmed Wednesday that residents at the homeless shelter where protesters have been occupying have contracted the drug-resistant disease.
     
     
    Yes, you read that correctly: the Occupiers, darlings of the BBC, have been occupying a freaking homeless shelter.  
     
    There’s a Twitter hashtag for this stuff that’s been gaining some traction: #OccupyFail.

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    • Buggy says:

      Didn’t Atlanta move the homeless out of town to smarten things up for the ’96 Olympics ? So that’s them screwed by big money and now by the supposed enemies of big money. Coo.

      And TB ? Presumably the Occupy twats will be quarantined. Oh dear. How sad. What a shame. My, oh my. Snigger.

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      • Reed says:

        First lice, now TB.
        David – don’t visit the occupiers again, it’s too dangerous. =-O
        We need you for counter-coverage of the US election campaign! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      • Grant says:

        But, Buggy, they will have to refuse any treatment that was developed by evil capitalist drug companies.
        After all these peoples’ protest is a matter of principle and no-one can accuse them of being hypocrites. 

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      I have been wondering about that rallying banner from the outset, as it seems to have pejorative connatations the protagonists (and their media PR machines) usually like to fling out rather than embrace, for instance with certain ME geo-political issues.

      I am also intrigued how you serve protesting the causes of hardship by displacing those already suffering to do so.

      I would like the BBC (or indeed most media) to confront this discrepancy, but it seems I have merely to pay for them to cover it up.

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  34. cjhartnett says:

    Today is the 73rd anniversary of Kristalllnacht.
    As the BBC worry about whether Anjem Choudhurys right to burn poppies in the face of relatives of the dead and wounded is being abrogated, it would be nice if the BBC thought for once about how a democratic law-abiding nation with an elected leader can turn so rancid and so quickly.
    Whipping up hatred against Israel is one thing…and we know what the Left and the Beebs default/reflex position is about that butterfly amongst wasps and scorpions.
    But it is very foolish not to allow for democratic accountability for the Greeks, Italians, Irish or anybody else who wants out of the toxic pipedream that is the Euro.
    To see elected leaders of sovereign historic nations being replaced by Euroslugs who`ve never been elected by their own people-because the Fuhrergrams insist on it-is only setting us up for real trouble.
    That the BBC think an unelected technocratic elite can stabilise the broken-backed crocodile line that is EU policy is now nore dangerous than funny.
    It didn`t work for Seyss-Inquart or for Quisling…so it sure as hell won`t work for the sack of shite that is the Eurotoads.
    Thank God we`re out of the Euro…or else we`d be getting Patten, Ashton, Brittain, Mandelson and all the Kinnocks in a government of national wonderment!
    That their likes infest the political debate on a dialy basis just shows that the BBC have been grooming them for years and until Brussels said that we needed them…even though we didn`t know it, not being as enlightened as they are… 

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      “And I do declare that no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. So help me God.”
      English Bill of Rights 1689

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    • Grant says:

      cj,
      And we have Merkel threatening war if we don’t obey her.
      “Eurotoads”  is an insult to toads everywhere  !

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  35. Martin says:

    Oh god hacking again on Newsnight zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Oh god now it’s Chris Skidmarked pants Bryant.

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  36. Jeff Waters says:

    What’s inside Rick Perry’s head: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15684676

    ‘Research has shown that when people are aware of stereotypes about themselves or their gender or ethnic group, they tend to perform down to those stereotypes as if hampered by a weight, says Ms Beilock.

    For example, in studies, when girls are reminded about negative stereotypes of girls’ performance on maths exams just before they are to take one, they perform worse, she says.’

    How is gender stereotyping relevant to someone’s memory slip during a political debate?!?

    Jeff

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      How is gender stereotyping relevant to someone’s memory slip during a political debate?!?  ‘

      10,000 monkeys.
      10,000 typewriters/
      24/7 to fill with ‘something’.
      1 agenda it neees to fit.

      That’s how.

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  37. Martin says:

    Yet again Dame Nikki had Ed Genitals on this morning, allowing this fat buffoon to prattle on about what an expert he is on the economy.

    When will the BBC realise that they can stick him on as often as they like but no one linked ot the last Labour governments economic policies will ever be trusted by the public?

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    • cjhartnett says:

      True Martin!
      But Nicky and Ed…alongside all the other poltroons that cross contaminate the meme pool with their incontinence…are “on a journey”.
      Basically kerb crawling around the block and hoping that the redactors can remove the worst of their history since Oxbridge before the next election.
      That the journey is around the crashed cars, snapped turbines, lost tax discs, IOUs in a shoebox and a skip…and involves these lotus eaters talking to each other via the BBC/Guardian about positivity, drawing lines and whether Ed or Davids centre partings will swing the vote their way…well, it`s neither here nor there.
      None of us are listening-and they`re not really listening to each other…it`s all been said before and all of it is vegetative reflexes as long as the proles are taxed to pay for it.
      Lifelong education for these deadbeats of the spirit…and as long as we pay for it, well…

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      They just like having Balls on because he makes good theater, and can easily fill air time with angry pronouncements.  They do it out of sheer laziness.  Bring in Balls, give him a leading question, and off he goes. The producers don’t have to work up a real segment, and the presenter can then sit back, nod approvingly, and doesn’t have to work at all for the next few minutes.

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      • noggin says:

        mind you, they had martin lewis on too this morning, on the state of the economy?….i think they have frankie coccoza, on the eurozone this afternoon

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  38. cjhartnett says:

    As the kids are now at school and the hubbys/life partners are out earning…it`s indeed a delight to be serving Kirsty Young her flapjacks and fiartrade coffee.
    She`s gossiping with one Fransesca Simon…enchante!
    Ms Simon wrote those charming Horrid Henry books…robbing banks in dirty underpants and the like…how dangerous!
    If your boys can read, they`ll have had it pushed their way by those weekend dirty protestors that comprise literacy and CBBC cabals etc.
    If they can`t…well hey?…it`s on CBBCs every day in cartoon form, so they too can benefit from the worldview of Ms Simon(Oxford/Yale…but where else?)
    Apparently Henry thinks that robbing banks is “cool” and that to be a lying impulsive ” kill school-kidz rool!” type is indeed what our young men need more of…so Kirsty is entranced, as we pass them both the cream puffs!
    Might have been nicer had we not be funding these two slummy mummy millionairesses to tell us how rebellious they both are…yet neither seemed to have anything to say about all those horrid Henrys we saw on our streets in Tottenhan and Hackney in Perfect Peter London only a few months ago.
    Levi Bellfield?…very naughty indeed!

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    • Grant says:

      Yep, cj, for wealthy Lefties, crime is something to laugh about, if not positively encourage. After all, it is only the proles who really suffer and who gives a damn about them ?  

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    • Buggy says:

      According to a report down on the ticker bit of Ceefax, criminals pay for their crime from their 40’s on by having worse health than the rest of the population, and are 13 times more likely to be disabled.

      Presumably ‘disabled’ means receiving disability benefit which is , ho ho, not necessarily the same thing now, is it ?

      I’m guessing that what happens is that Johnny Crime reaches middle-age and finds things a bit too nippy up on the church roof stealing lead. So he acquires something ‘disabling’, unprovable (v. important, that), and profitable: e.g. a bad back.

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  39. My Site (click to edit) says:

    I’ll share here rather than persisting, as there will be more ultimate effect. It’s a complaint..

    ‘On The Editors we are continually informed that the BBC is embracing the social media revolution and interactivity in every and all ways.


    I fear this is not in evidence on perhaps one of the most key blog platforms, that of political editor Nick Robinson.


    He has long insulted the term, and licence fee payers, by claiming that he never reads any responses, but at least the mechanism existed for others to see his opinions and inaccuracies called to account.


    These were then curtailed to a point where they were only open 9 to 5, seemingly to serve a small fraction of the UK working population who may also seek to engage when not earning a living in professions that allow less frequent internet access during daylight hours than BBC employees enjoy.


    Now it appears the decision has been made to go simply broadcast only, with personal opinion and dubious sourced ‘fact’ presented as ‘news’ with no opportunity for challenge.


    If so, please admit it and move these efforts elsewhere rather than trying to maintain a pretence of listening, when it is clear more and more you are being told things you are unprepared to hear.


    Yet still charge us for the ‘privilege’.’

    After all that, I got this:

    Error 502 – Bad GatewayThis might be because:There is a temporary fault with this service, oryou have been linked to this service incorrectly.Please try the following options instead:Use BBC search above to see if it’s available elsewhereUse our site indexOr return to the page you came from.

    Basically, ‘you’re stuffed, it’s no way our fault, good luck’.

    BBC…bad gateway. Fits.

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  40. My Site (click to edit) says:

    This is what I saw:

    BBCPolitics BBC Politics VIDEO: Theresa May behaved ‘dishonourably’ bbc.in/tvlhrJ
    What was behind it is that a Labour pol’s opinion has been turned into headline national broadcast fact.

    The Tories are toast, and democacy doomed if this kind of ‘news’ reporting continues with a £4Bpa budget that no one is allowed to object to and withdraw from in protest.

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  41. My Site (click to edit) says:

    BBCNewsnight BBC Newsnight Two films from @paulmasonnews on euro crisis – on the short term fix bbc.in/w37jWf + on the long term future bbc.in/tEotBg
    No point asking them, but I wonder if all these will also be ‘no comments allowed’, in case any may take issue with what they tell us to think from this objective reporter.

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  42. My Site (click to edit) says:

    ns_mehdihasan Mehdi Hasan I will be on the BBC’s @daily_politics with Rachel Sylvester at noon, discussing the Eurozone, the 50p tax letter and Home Office chaos.
    Quelle frakking surprise.

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  43. Umbongo says:

    On Today this morning, the BBC had a perfect opportunity to explain what happened – and why – in the Vodaphone and Goldman Sachs taxation events.  Was an explanation offered – let alone explored?  Oh no, it was just “big corporate” getting off the hook because it’s in with the government and, if you don’t believe me, here are Margaret Hodge (enabler of child abusers in Islington Council children’s homes http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-7710095-new-social-worker-condemns-hodge.do) and Jesse Norman looking to make a name for himself as Hammer of Big Business.

    I know very little of the Goldman’s case, but the Vodaphone imbroglio was quite simple although the underlying Controlled Foreign Company tax legislation is (as usual) complicated.  Anyway, bear with me while I try to make some sense of what happened.

    Some foreign subs of Vodaphone made a substantial profit.  HMRC claimed that under its interpretation of the CFC legislation, Vodaphone owed billions.  Vodaphone contested this but provided a around £2 billion in its balance sheet just in case it, in the end, had to pay up.  While this dispute was in progress, another CFC-related case was decided against HMRC which created a problem for HMRC. 

    Although the “new” case was similar to that against Vodaphone the salient facts were not, I believe, identical.  Even so the reasons for the decision were of such compelling evidential strength that HMRC decided that it would probably lose its case against Vodaphone.  Accordingly, rather than waste a shedload of taxpayers’ cash – and senior HMRC officials’ time – continuing to fight an almost certainly losing case, HMRC decided not to carry on.  Vodaphone wrote back its provision and the world carried on.

    Now in comes Private Eye which – having had info leaked to it from a previously unreliable source on a previous matter – used that source to claim that there had been a stitch-up between HMRC and Vodaphone whereby Vodaphone had been relieved of a £6 billion tax liability.  The whole story is here http://timworstall.com/2011/11/08/so-its-8-billion-for-vodafone-now-is-it/.

    Meanwhile, a collection of human shite (also known as the Tax Justice Network, UKUNCut or the Guardian – take your pick) lie their statist hearts out trying to persuade us that obeying the letter of the law in tax affairs generally (and Vodaphone in particular) is somehow immoral and illegal (or “unjust” to use a much misused word) particularly for a big corporation which is prepared – and has the resources – to defend itself.

    I reckon a 90 second slot on Today could have clarified the position.  Of course the opportunity wasn’t taken because it would go against the narrative and, more to the point, there’s nobody at the BBC capable (or willing) to understand the points being made: certainly not Gomperz (who’s sole practical – as well as theoretical – business experience was working with a Canadian stockbroker 25 years ago http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/simon-gompertz/17/612/b47 ).

    The item on Today this morning was further notable in that the tax expert from Blick Rothenberg (who, presumably was brought in to defend the entirely legal process of tax avoidance) had the sheer chutzpah to accuse large taxpayers (ie her clients) of “wriggling” out of paying tax bills.  Such is the psychological corruption of this country that those making an extremely good living by advising on legal methods not to shovel money willy-nilly to politicians and bureaucrats slander their own clientele.  What no-one explained was the (BBC and points left) principle behind all this moaning that, if somebody can prove to a court’s satisfaction that tax is not legally owed, why that taxpayer should cough up anyway.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Good stuff, Umbongo.  Sounds like the BBC is just a glorified Occupier group in this instance.  Social Justice! Corporate Greed!

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  44. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The BBC News Channel just had a segment with some Greek talking head opining about the changes coming from Greece and Italy due to the forced regime changes.  This was strictly a voice-over, as the image on the screen the whole time was of a bunch of Greek politicians standing solemnly in front of a Greek Orthodox cleric chanting what I assume to be Orthodox prayer.  I believe this was something like a blessing over the swearing in of the new Greek PM.

    I thought it was remarkable that the same BBC who so often sneers and spits scorn on US politicians who wear their faith on their sleeves, or at what they perceive to be a general religious Christian population, doesn’t bat an eye at a Greek Parliament openly having Christian worship right there.  Are they less Christian than United Statesians for some reason?  Why is this acceptable but US Christian beilef isn’t?

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  45. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Syria descends into civil war, and the BBC can’t blame Israel.  Love it!

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  46. David Preiser (USA) says:

    So the Mohammedan want to burn poppies and scream hatred, and the EDL gets arrested instead.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Police said the arrests were made to “prevent a breach of the peace”.

      You know, that sort of thing begins to make one wonder who is the greater risk to society.  The EDL or bone-headed police.

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    • Umbongo says:

      As you can already sense DP, this is no longer a free country.  As far as I’m concerned the deranged Moslems can demonstrate against Poppy Day to their hearts’ content.  That is, or should be, their right under the law as long as they demonstrate within that law.  OTOH the EDL also has a perfect right to assemble (and, for that matter, drink in a pub) and counter-demonstrate within the law.    
         
      That said, on a point of principle, I deplore the proscribing of MAC which has been done (it seems to me) purely on the basis that their demos offend those (including me) who wish to commemorate those killed and wounded in defence of this country.  The banning of the MAC has not been done AFAIAA because the MAC in and of itself (I don’t about individual members) posed a security threat or was a criminal conspiracy.  Frankly, if the Home Secretary is in the business of banning organisations on the basis of their “offence quotient” she could start with the BBC and work up from there
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  47. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Now the BBC is going to push the line that a fundamental flaw in the Eurozone is that it was created without a Fed or Central Bank which can print money forever. Apparently, we’ll learn that Merkel is wrong that the ECB isn’t a printing press. As if there hasn’t been enough deficit spending yet.  #EuropeFail.

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  48. Jeff Waters says:

    I just switched on the BBC news channel to see what’s been happening re. the Eurozone crisis.

    The main headline at 6?  The fact that people were silent at 11am to commemorate Rememberance Day!

    Since when is something that’s happened every 11/11 for many decades news?  OK, today is 11/11/11, but is that alignment of digits really a reason to make this the top news story?

    On Christmas Day, will their big news story be ‘millions of families up and down the country exchanged presents this morning’?

    Jeff

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  49. Jeff Waters says:

    EDL arrests: 170 supporters held near Cenotaph in London – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15697632

    The EDL were planning a peaceful protest, but it sounds like the police decided to arrest them as a precautionary measure, even though they hadn’t broken the law.

    I wonder if Newsnight will be asking tough questions about this civil liberties infringement.  It’s disturbing that the police can arrest someone just because they might commit an offence!  That’s not how free societies are supposed to operate!

    Jeff

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    • noggin says:

      mind you J, cant wait now for all the choudarys of this world, all the invited campus hate mongers, all the f-ckwits with their sharia or else posters, they ll be straight off the streets…….no wait…won t they?

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    • Martin says:

      Funny that gutless plod can arrest a load of EDL, yet when bushy bearded twats protest and burn poppies nothing happens.

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      • Reed says:

        Martin, if only they did nothing. During previous Islam-o-nutter protests the police have encircled them to protect their right to demonstrate and prevent others from ‘causing trouble’. For one group it’s a matter of getting them off the streets before they can attempt anything, with the other they act as enablers. Bizarre and offensive. This kind of thing is what threatens to lose the police the support of the decent law abiding majority.

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