I posted this over on my other blog, A Tangled Web, but thought I would put it here also. To be honest, I was sick to the stomach after the Liveblog last night and wanted to share my thoughts;
“UK readers will be only too aware of the BBC’s flagship weekly political debate programme – Question Time. US readers may not be so familiar but essentially it consists of an invited panel being asked questions by a selected audience. It has, shall we say, a certain reputation for being left-wing, and that is why I set up a Question Time LIVEBLOG over @ Biased BBC a few years ago – allowing readers a chance to have their say on it as it is broadcast live. Usually, this is good fun and whilst the programme is predictably dreary, massively pro-Labour and reliably leftist in all other zones, I get quite a kick out of the Biased BBC commentariat and their caustic wit!
However there is a serious side to this. 10 years, after 9/11, the edition of Question Time that was broadcast that week became infamous. The Towers lay burning, thousands were dead (reduced to ash) and I think most people were in a state of shock. On the panel of Question Time that week was the then American ambassador Philip Lader. He was reduced to tears by the unbelievable hostility of the “selected” BBC audience which baited him, blamed America and essentially suggested that the US got what it deserved. The BBC seemed surprised by the reaction from people across the UK and apologised for the atrocious programme.
Last night, the BBC ran a 9/11 special edition of Question Time, ten years on. As usual, we hosted the live discussion. After 20 minutes, I was thinking of leaving the debate, after 40mins, I did. Quite simply, this was ANOTHER opportunity for the “invited” BBC audience to vent their spleen against the Great and Little Satan. America was berated, Israel was berated, Islam was exonerated and Muslims were defined as the real victims since, as Tariq Ali stated, “their lands are occupied”. In short, the programme made me sick.
There is plenty to be said about 9/11, but I would have thought most decent human beings would sympathise with all those innocents who had their precious lives taken, so horrendously, so unimaginably. America was the VICTIM of a vicious terror attack by militant Islamists who shouted how great Allah was as those planes detonated into those offices. Since 9/11, there have been 17,000+ additional acts of Jihad. America made mistakes before 9/11 and it has made mistakes after 9/11. Perhaps we can all agree on that but in the final analysis, it was America that was attacked and it is America that has every right to defend itself.
Bonnie Greer, Tariq Ali and all those others US haters in the Question Time audience last night made me feel ashamed to be British. When it comes to the BBC’s Question Time – my response is NOT IN MY NAME.”
very well said David
and my response to all sensible people is
STOP SUBSIDISING THIS SCUM WITH THE TV TAX
seriously-stop paying however much it is now to keep this filth in employment
it’s time to take a stand-there is loads of advice on the net to tell you how to deal with there trained “attack” dogs tv liecensing aka the private powerless company known as capita
I refuse to subsidise these communist muslim lovine parasites any more
That’s all very well, and I’d stop paying my TV licence today if I could. But the reality for myself and others is that it is other members of the family, less politically aware and extremely naive in dealings with state apparatchiks who would have to deal with Crapita.
Plus if you have a cable subscription it is somewhat difficult to deny that you receive broadcasts. If anyone has some practical ways round that I’d love to hear about it.
Seconded.
RD and I have already (and will doubtless continue to) looked at rational protest withdrawal, and it seems you either lie and risk perjury or ditch the TV.
Like Hotel California, if you are a law-abiding, family-guiding, reputation-guarding person of ethics and respect and integrity, another sordid ‘unique’ of this benighted ‘national treasure’ is that you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. And staying means paying.
time to get the family educated I think…..
why pay to let al beeb brainwash them into complying with the lies and doublespeak they produce day after relentless day?
I don’t have cable either……or a sky subscription
is there an available link from anywhere, on to a copy of that shameful & despicable 2001 QT.
it would would make a excellent comparison, with last nights, visual diahorrea
10 years, still, no change, still abhorrently biased, still lying to the brit population, still biased bbc.
a change is needed
You don’t have to worry about Capita at all. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it:
Put an implied right of access denied to Capita plc outside your front door and that will put an end to any salesman from walking on your driveway.
The knock on the door, the questioning, all gone in an instant.
I’ve done it (check my blog for details), many others have too.
It’s easy once you realise it’s the fear from the false public ads that make you compliant.
Don’t believe me?
We’ve done it.
So can you.
It’s your only form of effective protest. Waiting for a politico to stop it simply ain’t going to happen.
HTH.
David, I watched it and stuck it to the end. It was appalling but expected. I was surprised, however, that the handpicked audience was even less representative of the general British Public than normal.
The BBC is a disgrace and Question Time is almost the perfect exemplar of what the BBC stands for today. The panel were four hard-left against two from the right, which is its typical balance. Occasionally they even manage 5 to 1. I would like to echo that the programme and the BBC do not represent me, and I abhor their racist prejudices against Israel and the USA.
I couldn’t do the whole hour, I’m kind of impressed you did. As I commented on the other QT article, surely now this is the end of the QT format as it exists. Even people who aren’t normally critical of the BBC have said to me today how shocked they were by the show. The Bin Laden death episode was a low point – all that talk about giving him a proper burial, we’re as bad as they are etc. It’s reached a point of no return now.
within 10 mins T McVeigh & Israel & both muslim denial & victimhood…
goodness, it sure looked like el beeb invited the UAF back in to the QT studio.
& not only on this debacle, there has been a deluge of this handwringing apologist drivel on el beeb ramping up to the anniversary of 9/11.
…only this morning on
BBC R5 contrive Victoria oh-Dear byshire, traips around “Guantanamo” with her hankies at the ready, trying to bring a tear from a glass eye
before wheeling out M.Begg
can they get any lower, (better not say that they always do 😀 )
oh and demon…”5 to 1″ on Q.Time i wouldn t have minded last night if the one was D. Murray, or maybe C. Hitchens..
I found this comment on Guido’s blog; and IMHO it is one of the best ever descriptions of the BBC.
You will find it here.
http://order-order.com/2011/09/08/question-time-paranoid-at-unpredictable-audience-tonight/#comments
“The Grim Reaper says:September 8, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Time to dismantle this perfidious platform of left wing bias & indoctrination.
BBC Management have lost control at line management, research, editorial and journalist levels – so that maverick extremists within these sectors operate a free and uncontrolled campaign of Left wing bias. These activists drip feed a noxious diet of entertainment pap for the masses and doctored opinion pieces on “news” programmes. Formulaic, PC driven nonsense slips into every output or it doesn’t get shown.
Part of this Liberal Left hatefest is aimed at Americans who do not like Obamastan, the promotion of the EUSSR – with very little actual coverage of European countries, bankers (except when they want to buy homes in Tuscany), Jews not caught up in the Holocaust, private education (except for their own offspring), an obsession with Islam not shared anywhere else in the UK, a romanticised agitprop agenda when riots and insurrection occur; uncritical support for the New Labour Project, a platform for the public sector & nationalisation (as long as the bonus telly tax keeps on coming in), ignorance of enterprise and business (eg Bargain Hunt, typical BBC shite: where you buy at retail and try to make profits selling wholesale using OUR money, usually at a loss).
The habit of only interviewing in-house “experts” on major events is part of the cosy bubble. The BBC justs talks amongst itself and rarely calls upon independent or conservative viewpoints. So Liberal Left opinion becomes fact. Conservatives are routinely interrogated and the left interviewed. It stinks of high corruption.
The list of misinformation, propaganda goes on and on…..the evidence that the BBC is abusing the Charter is huge – from the Balen Report to it’s toxic hatred of the Coalition.
Time to dismantle the Evil Empire. If Cameron doesn’t get it….the Conservatives are doomed and this powerful, publicly paid Opposition Party will prove to be an extremely dangerous Fifth Columnist, playing an unedifying part in the collapse of our way of life.”
David, I feel your pain. I haven’t seen a “Question Time” in 10 years. The last edition was the one you write about. It made me ashamed too, but ashamed to be working for an organization that could be so insensitive and vindictive to have made that program.
I’ve written on this blog before and I’ll say it again: that program was a defining moment for me. What began with small doubts over the years culminated in a decision to come out of the conservative closet and start standing up for what I believe. I know from talking to many others I am not alone.
However, although the program was a disgrace, the results were totally counterproductive. Whenever I’m disheartened I think of that Question Time in 2001 and the anger wells up again, the resolve renews.
One can only hope that last night’s edition of “Question Time” made another generation see the light.
(By the way: Tariq Ali?!? Really? Tariq Ali!?! Come on. Next thing you’ll be telling me they’re still hiring Yasmin Alibhai-Brown.)
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown is still the all time worst guest I think they’ve had on. That or Polly Tonybee.
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown wrote something in the Independent – after Greg Dyke had apologised for that Question Time back in 2001 – saying they should be proud not apologetic! She really is a fool.
Is the editor of QT still that fellow Nicolai Gentchev, who wrote for the International Socialism Journal and Socialist Review?
Just wondering
Guido claims the inside story is that the BBC actually “softened” the audience. One can only imagine what it was like otherwise.
This would imply that they are sensitive to criticism – and that IMPORTANT criticism is being made. (Important means from people who can effect their wages!)
I see Guido has an update from the BBC: “The BBC got in touch overnight to say usual practice applied to the audience” Translation: the audience was specially chosen. (P.S. When did the BBC start responding to simple bloggers?)
Did you see the audience? That audience doesn’t look like any sample I’ve ever seen unless you take the audience from a Diversity Centre.
That is a real tacit admission by the BBC that the audience is rigged. Beeboids are not only biased, they are stupid !
If 3000 homosexuals had been murdered we know the BBC would only be blaming those that did it.
Unless carried out by the Iranian government.
If the BBC = Britain we are doomed.
But the BBC does not represent Britain. The BBC is an accurate reflection of the views of Guardian readers. The Guardian it should be pointed out is a failing newspaper because so few people want to buy it.
It is the BBC who are doomed, and they know it. The Left is like a cartoon character who has gone over a cliff. They are trying not to look down. This generally happens just before they fall like a stone into the canyon. The Left want to take us with them. It is up to us to make sure they fail.
If you took away the BBC most of them would be unemployable. I would not rely on most of them to tell me how to get to the end of the street.
If I had a choice.
“The Left want to take us with them.”
Well the Left are going to take Cameron with them if he doesn’t shape up and do something PDQ about this nauseating organisation.
Cameron himself is left-wing. Can anyone here think of any leader of the Conservative Party who was more left-wing than Cameron ?
Cameron (in my opinion) is the most right wing Prime Minister since Margaret Thatcher. He is operating on the assumption that politics is the art of the possible. He is in a coalition. The world economy is not in a good state. The books have never been so bad. The Leftist establishment which has (and is) doing so much long term damage to this country (about which it has not the slightest concern) is a very powerful self-interest group. It is too early to judge his place in history. You may be right and Cameron is being too timid, but (in my opinion) there is a lot more iron in him than you think.
Cameron certainly isn’t the man to put them to the sword
he still thinks they are the best broadcaster in the world
all I can say Dave is,”you really need to get out more”-and I don’t mean foreign junkets or the half dozen or so holidays a year you like to take
(Reprise.)
Overall conclusion of last night’s ‘Question Time’ on September 11, 2001:
– ‘the West was to blame, Muslims are innocent victims, Islam is not
relevant.’
(Applause from leftist-Muslim audience.)
More on Muslim ‘victims’, fervent believers in Islam:
“Factbox: September 11 conspirators: Where are they now?”
http://news.yahoo.com/factbox-september-11-conspirators-where-now-051601001.html
-and:
Nine eleven: By the numbers
As I`ve said elsewhere…it`s all the same narrative.
Book of the Week these last few days has been a couple of cherry bombs lobbed into the laps of 9/11 widows.
Alright-it`s “only fiction”, but I would defy anyone not to hear Lionel Shrivers oh-so-clever and twisted letter to the 9/11 widow and not think it real.
THe lack of compassion or care for those who lost someone in the Twin Towers is truly evil…and that the BBC commissions those who speak and write like this; is promoting the same.
Is there no-one iat the BBC who actually gives a stuff about America or the Americans…unless its the New York Times/Washington blowhards that mirror the BBC/Guardian so completely!
I hope David P etc ,get to hear and see some of this stuff and start to tell the Americans what our government is churning out by way of heartless sneery venom.
The USA really ought to start grounding these Stanleys without knives-if Bowens contact list can be cited as evidence of their endemic treachery, then all to the good!
God Bless the USA…and f**k Radio Guardianistas and the Al Pravda network we now pay for…not in my name either David V!
cj,
Spot on !
This might seem off topic but as the only part of last night’s QT I saw was the Millipede demanding a two state solution for Israel and the others I think relevant.
As usual the weasel words of the BBC.
I wrote to the Director of the Proms asking for reassurance that the Israeli Philharmonic would be invited to play during a future series. I reminded him that the will of the people in the Hall was in support of the orchestra and not the demonstrators. His reply
‘I can assure you that each season is and will continue to be planned with the best possible artistic quality in mind. ‘
That wasn’t what I asked – I asked about the Israeli Phil – I suppose I should write back and ask him to confirm that the Israeli Phil are one of the best orchestras in the world. But I can only fight so hard.
Called it. Sad but not the least bit shocking.
You should write back pointing out that the shyster didn’t answer your question!
Deborah,
That reply means they will never invite the Israel Phil again.
More likely the scum at the BBC will use our money to set up a PLO, Palestine Liberation Orchestra !
Funnily enough I felt the audience was not as rabidly public sector as usual last night, so I bet Guido is onto something.
Still the usual pretrendy-leftie dullathon though.
46 armed conflicts around the world and the hopey-changies don’t seem to be interested in anything beyond ‘Palestine’ v Israel. Cf the halfwit Polyversity Grant weeping about Resolution 242 as though he’d just had his entire family slaughtered by Navy Seals.
And of course Guantanamo. 300,000 dead in Darfur, do the hopey-changies give a monkey’s? Nah, you can’t blame Bush for that one. They’d rather howl about Guantanamo – our one of course, not Fidel’s varsions.
Aye, they like to pick and choose their ’causes’ alright.
Edit: 47 armed conflicts around the world, South ossetia has just kicked off again, I wonder if Resolution 242 Boy wants to come on here and weep about the South Ossetians. Nah thought not.
I am reluctant to pay up, but the type of jobs I do would be very difficult if not imposible to get if I had a conviction even one for not paying the TV tax. Many others must be in the same situation.
the only way they’ll get you to court is if you sign their “confession” to say you don’t have a licence
I’m afraid I had to send an “inspector” on his way empty handed as he doesn’t have permission to set foot on my property
do not co-operate with them in any shape or form
It’s not just that either. A lot of people would be socially embarrassed and couldn’t cope with the pressure and the harassment that they would be subjected to by letter (darkly insinuating criminality and threatening legal action); by phone; persistent ringing of the doorbell etc.
All that I have no problem dealing with.
But where it gets iffier is the family, and anyone catching a kid, pointing at a SKY dish and requiring an answer as to whether the TV is on.
Then you are in the area of martyr if you choose to fight.
There seems NO option to say ‘yes, I have a TV: but no I don’t watch BBC as it’s propaganda and I refuse to fund it’.
Even the blimpiest beak has to send you down on that basis as the law is blind.
What is changing is that aspect.
I know of no relationship where you get no vote, no choice and no alternative.
Especially when the implicit service contract they have foisted on me has been broken by them totally.
Having a Sky dish in itself is not guilty of watching live broadcast.
You don’t have to worry about Capita at all. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it:
Put an implied right of access denied to Capita plc outside your front door and that will put an end to any salesman from walking on your driveway and avoiding all scenarios you have described.
The knock on the door, the questioning, all gone in an instant.
I’ve done it (check my blog for details), many others have too.
It’s easy once you realise it’s the fear from the false public ads that make you compliant.
Don’t believe me?
We’ve done it.
So can you.
It’s your only form of effective protest. Waiting for a politico to stop it simply ain’t going to happen.
HTH.
Heres a thought.
Imagine a BBC question time where the holocaust was discussed.
If some idiot stood up and said the jews were to blame because of their control of finances in pre war euorpe and thus they provoked the NAZIs.
The idiot would , quite rightly be shouted down.
However, when another group of genocidal maniac kill 3000 innocents in New York it is acceptable to say they brought it on themselves.
How perverse is that.
Are the victims of 9/11 any less human?
The towers were an economic not military target, these were murders pure an simple.
Murder is not justifiable.
Yet Alibi Brown, Dhimmblebore, and the baying slanted QT crowd are all allowed to dissemble and twist and project the lie that ‘the beaten woman deserved everything she got from her violent husband’
Murder is murder and bbc scum are bbc scum
Paddy,
Surely if someone said the Jews were to blame for the Holocaust, a QT audience would applaud ?
Intro to apparently the first ever QT:
Natural, funny and refreshing, unlike the clinical, staged and slick productions of today.
QT is the political equivalent of the Jeremy Kyle show – only less entertaining.
Richard Perle is the feral-chav-scum-love-rat-smackhead who has had six children by seven different women – he’s the bad guy.
Bonnie Greer is the put-upon mum who has suffered terribly at the hands of feral-chav-scum-love-rat-smackhead and just wants baby Chantelle to have a future – she’s the good guy, natch.
Bonnie and feral-chav-scum-love-rat-smackhead have a stand-up screaming match and the audience all boo and hiss at the appropriate times; it’s like a weird, screwed-up pantomime of freaks.
Matthew Parris summed it up sweetly – QT is about ‘boo words’ and ‘hooray words’. ‘Boo words’ are spoken by ‘boo people’; ‘hooray words’ are spoken by ‘hooray people’. So Bonnie and Tariq are hoorayed to the heavens while Perle, Griffin or the bogeyman du jour gets a flurry of boos from the politicised anoraks who attend this kind of show.
This is all part of the infantilisation of political debate: wheel on a couple of polemicists from opposite ends of the political spectrum and watch the ‘boo’ and ‘hooray’ words flow. It’s great TV, innit?
QT is pure, unadulterated bollocks.
like I posted on the liveblog thread below-
this programme needs to be pre-labelled with a health warning
“QT is utter left wing bollocks and will seriously boil your piss if you can stomach to watch it”
If the BBC was able to extend its address book beyond the usual leftist mongs they might actually get someone with a bit of knowledge to point out that the vast majority of casualties in Iraq were caused by AQ and Iranian proxies, not, as these imbeciles on the panel and in the audience insist, US soldiers.
Observations such as these (once upon a time known as ‘facts’) don’t go down well on QT.
I remember Nick Griffin, when challenged on the notion of ‘indigenous British’, pointing out that no-one would dream of questioning a Maori or Cherokee on the notion of indigenousness in NZ and the US respectively; you could hear a pin drop because everybody in that room realised that what he said was absolutely, factually, correct. That’s the reason why lefties are favoured – it reduces the chance of the public being exposed to facts.
To Lefties, reading the Guardian or watching The Guardian on-air BBC is an essential part of keeping the real world at bay.
From listening to friends still of the Socialist persuasion, just about everything they think about anything in the real world is arguably wrong. That prophylactic daily injection of “left-bias” stops their whole “world-view” from collapsing under its own contradictions
Racism is wrong (except of course anti-semitism, which is right); people steal because they are poor (though thieves get rich by stealing); it’s so unfair that people who neither make nor do anything should have less money than those who do; everyone agrees the climate is changing and its all our fault (as long as you exclude those that don’t agree)
The BBC is the country’s most trusted source of news, though that trust is demonstrably betrayed, daily and almost hourly.
We actually have far more of a claim to our land than either of the indigenous groups that you mentioned.
This book is intense but well worth reading, if only to destroy the naive left when they come out with the ‘nation of immigrants’ lie:
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/origins_of_the_british.html
‘QT’ is simply part of INBBC deliberate political policy of broadcasting especially Islamophilic propaganda in the run up to 9/11.
While INBBC is promoting leftist and Islamic propagandists, it censors critics who analyse the motivating role of Islamic ideology in the jihadist massacres.
Interestingly, the practical measures taken by British police to arrest jihadists planning attacks against us (in Manchester) rightly include a recognition of the importance of the weapon of Islam as an ideology:-
“Jailed: Three members of terror cell who tried to recruit undercover police for ‘holy war’
“http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/37753
With the tension rising between Israel and Turkey expect the BBc to be firmly slanting it’s news reports in Turkey’s favour.
Only when Tel Aviv is in flames would I expect any let up in the incessant propaganda masquerading as news pumped out by this disgusting organisation.
It must be bought to heel and soon.
dave s,
Our teenage PM Cameron contributed to this when , soon after he became PM, he went to Ankara and gave an idiotic speech supporting the vile Islamo-fascist Turkish government. Turkish secularists are in despair at being dumped by ignorant Western leaders. Europe is committing suicide through its brain dead “leaders”.
The BBC wants people to get the impression that EVERYONE thinks the way they do – hence selected QT audiences, etc.
That way, they hope we’ll all toe the PC line for fear of being sent to Coventry by everyone else.
In modern atomised society, where so many are cut off from their neighbours and communities, this strategy has some effect.
But only some effect. Three cheers for the EDL, and damn the license fee!
Ian you make a good point. Once we had our pubs and clubs to “chew the fat” pass comment have a talk, with the increase of BEER BARNS and the closing of the locals, smoking ban etc. Also “working from home” no more chats round the teapot.
Actually we have become a nation where we rarley talk to one another even over the garden fence. I remember those days and I have been lucky to be able to embrase the web (not bad for a silver surfer).
There is also FEAR in people that somehow talking to others might get them in trouble if they speak of anything that might cause offence, in case anyone is listening and they lose a job.
I have told a number of people about this site and the feed back I have is very positive. I can’t thank those responsible enough for the insisive view’s, fantastic humour that leaves me with a feeling of “I AM NOT ALONE”
ian – that’s right, the BBC genuinely think that the audience is normal because that’s what all their chums think too.
The number minorities in that QT was an absolute disgrace; but it’s symptomatic of how that is what the BBC wants the UK to be, not necessarily how it is.
You sound like the sort of man who would appreciate the guy Richard Miniter on this podcast. He demolishes the European left; it made my hair stand on end just listening to it.
http://ricochet.com/ricochet-podcast/European-Vacation
If Miniter was British he’d be duiffed up by police-UAF activists!
Well – I had mixed feelings about the show. It was quite simply appallingly, embarrasingly, surreally left-wing. It was as if we had descended into a pit of left wing nonsense hell where the real world was far away. It was incredibly biased and bore no resemblance whatsoever to what real people actually think.
However, I’m quite proud of it because it was the first live blog I had started moderating on my own and managed to keep it going on my own until DV and ASE arrived and then left!
At least as a show it will go down in history as being notorious and everyone will remember it as being a new nadir of the BBCs flagship leftwing political mouthpiece.
Well done David, I really apprreciate it.
Agreed – a big thanks to those that run the live events.
Yet again I tune into Question Time and I am confronted with more of the same : The majority of the audience and panel reflecting minority opinion. As others have said, I think they are so self-contained in their own little bubble, a fashionable PC lefty echo-chamber, that they really do think that the views being expressed are that of the majority.
Here’s a tip for them : when you next undertake your ‘outreach workshops’ to inform you of the diversity of outlooks to which you need to cater, instead of approaching every minority group you can think of, go instead to the vast majority whose views and lives you so seldom reflect. Try some ordinary white, middle class people, not ones called Arabella who live in Hampstead and love Ken Livingstone. What about some REAL working class people, not drug-addled rioters on benefits. You could try the rural coutryside alliance set, instead of the painfully metrosexual luvvie clique that you seem to employ so readily. You could even talk to those whose political opinions differ from yours on the major issues like immigration, rather than heading straight for the immigrant population for their views. In short, all those people whose views you seem incapable of reflecting on programs like Question Time and many others. That would be truly representative, not the false version of forced minority agendas and viewpoints that you pass of as ‘the voice of modern Britain’. Give it a try, BBC : celebrate our TRUE diversity, not just the variety you find on your doorstep.
Another view of QT :
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/427/the_bbc_embarrasses_britain_during_the_9_11_question_time_again_
The BBC truly are on dangerous ground.
They might once have claimed some link -some roots in the soil of the country.
They`ve lived off this image of being the voice of Britain for some time now…in fact their whole World Service/Enterprises scam is built on this myth.
Each time we get our face slapped…like last nights QT…the British people just quietly peel away from the libleftloons that seem to move from Dimblebys country pile to Paxmans pied a terre.
Truly and completely irrelevant to the coming debate on life after them…and I`ll be expecting our pensions from them back too.
I will of course give the money clawed back to reduce inequalities and fairness.
The BBC embarrasses Britain during the “9/11” Question Time… again
Note how Bonnie Greer was appalled and “surprised” by Islamophobia and deplored how “society” formed a negative view of Muslims after 9/11. But she attached no blame to Muslims hating “The West” – far from it – according to her, we are to blame for causing their hatred.
Like a of of liberals she holds “The West” up to standards that she never expects Muslims to be capable of achieving – it’s dangerously close to racism.
Nobody seems to have mentioned what jumped out at me, back in the UK and watching a recorded QT – my first in YEARS – with friends after a nice curry: the David Miliband show? Thought he got far too much time and had carefully worded phrases slipped into his answers that were clearly no spotaneous. Being put on a pedistal as a possible new Labour leader?