OPEN THREAD…

Just another manic Monday and a fresh Open Thread to accompany it. World financial metldown, London aflame, how is the BBC doing in terms of balanced coverage? This is where you get your say…

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  1. My Site (click to edit) says:

    I’m truly amazed that the far-left BBC haven’t had Winston Silcott on yet.

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  2. Martin says:

    I see Andrew Pierce has a piece on BBC bias in the Mail, why doesn’t Pierce ever bring up lefty bias when he’s actually ON the BBC? Iain Dale is another one who moans about BBC bias yet when he’s on it he never brings it up.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Iain Dale never moans out the Beebs pro-homosexualist bias, being ‘of that parish’ himself.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Iain Dale never moans out the Beebs pro-homosexualist bias, being ‘of that parish’ himself.  Mind you, so is Pierce, but his not a bigot like Dale.

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  3. Martin says:

    Radio 5 spinning the lie that ther riots are down to Tory cuts.

    Dozy female beeboid sucking up lies from two ‘efniks’ who were allowed to spin utter bollocks.

    “Dez nafing to do man”, “but you’re 24” spouts female beeboid, “I carnt wurk coz I iz disabled” (although he appears to be able to run down to the beneftis office”

    “People iz avin der benefits cut man”

    Shame so that means they have to steal their new 40″ plasma rather than get it on benefits.

    The obvious question is why do young black males all dress like gangster rappers then wonder why they get stopped by plod?

    If a store is robbed by two black males wearing baggy trousers and wearing hoodies, that description applies to the majority of black males (and many white).

    Here’s a thought, stop dressing like a criminal.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      Why would they think of stopping when they have the Beeboid Corporation, and other TV companies too,  to glorify their hideous crime-worshipping noise (can’t call it music) and “stars” on its radio and TV stations?

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  4. Simon says:

    R2’s midday Vine show (its production team seems to be a proper nest of right-on metro types) starts its coverage of the riots by playing the Specials’ ‘Ghost Town’ just in case we weren’t getting our POV sync-ed. I wonder if the choice of Thin Lizzy’s ‘Dancing in the Moonlight’ to close with was a smirk of solidarity with de bluds in this latest ‘uprising’.

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    • It's all too much says:

      I guess the BBC tune may change as Islington is targetted, then Bloomsbury.  Do they have many shops specialising in high end running shoes there?

      Beeboids do not like their “uprisings” too close to home and never invite rioters to tea. 

      My advice brothers, stay away from Beeboid dwellings if you want a sympathethic coverage; but come on lads, take a few minutes out from your serious looting and do something for  ‘the cause’ – the BBC needs to ‘hear your pain’.  Smash a few bank windows and spray”F**K the Tories” on the walls of St Paul’s Cathedral a few times.  Remember to be filmed urinating in the fountains at Trafalgar Square whilst shouting “Cuts Cuts Cuts” before attacking the shops that sell i-phones and shoes.  Try not to kill anyone deliberately as well old fellows, it gets a bit hard making excuses for that.

      The real issue here is a total collape of respect for life, limb, property and the law, it is not an issue of race but of culture.  We have societies in London where packs of feral sub-adults stab each other in Victoria Station during rush hour.  This is apparently preferable to the evil hand of the Met.  The gang culture is now quite deliberately challenging the Queens’ peace and establishing who ‘rules the manor’.  It is not our PC met police that is for sure.  The BBC is so in love with the mythology of victimhood it cannot be bothered to do anything other than spew out its tired leftoid hogwash – society is to blame – by this they mean you and me and not the crack dealing murderers who do so much to brighten the lives of West Indian pensioners in their Tottenham flats .  No wonder the poor dears need to smash in windows to steal shoes, the police have dared to challeng their right to sell crack and run extortion rackets, and the evil tory cuts mean that they are all barefoot and in rags – starving without enough money to buy a smart phone top up, a KFC and some recreational cannabis. 

      When the rest of the Benefit Aristocracy work out that nothing will happen as a result of these riots heaven help the law abiding.

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  5. wild says:

    The BBC is so dominant that anybody who earns a living in medialand (and that includes publishers) has to be careful what they say about it.

    The BBC is vastly more dominant than Rupert Murdoch, but those who depend on the broadcasting media (including politicians) are too frightened to point that out. There is nobody in the country that is so stupid that they are unaware of this situation. If they deny it they are lying.

    So who put the BBC in such a powerful position?

    You did, although (needless to add) not from any choice. Absence of choice is how the Left like it; freedom of choice to a Leftist is like sunlight to a vampire.

    Knowing your place in the UK means paying your dues to the Leftist establishment. A free society is a disaster for the Left, and they have spent most of the last 100 years trying to put that right.

    As a rule of thumb for how free your society is make a list of the sort of opinions which if expressed would result in a police visit or losing your job if you work in the public sector (which would be 100% of the econonmy if the Left had its way. You think you live in a free society? Think again.

    The reason why the BBC were so jubliant about a few phone messages being hacked is that it gave them an opportunity to attack the very concept of a free press.

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  6. wild says:

    “starts its coverage of the riots by playing the Specials’ ‘Ghost Town'”

    That sort of thing counts as cutting edge comment if you are a brain dead Leftist. They make trees look intelligent.

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  7. My Site (click to edit) says:

    “Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so”. – ActsOfGord.com

    I couldn’t help think of this whilst watching BBC Midlands Today’s report (a few days ago alas) on budget cuts for West Mercia Police.

    The Chief Constable did a fantastic job of deflecting the idea that cuts mean “christmas for criminals” ((C) 2009 All Other Police Forces). He spelt out clearly that it only meant having to be smarter with budget allocations, and in fact they would be putting more police on the streets.

    Even when pushed on whether it would be hard, he deflected the question by essentially saying “not really” and reitterating about being smarter with the budget.

    The BBC’s tagline for this? “Police Chief admits cuts will hurt”. Strange, I don’t remember him saying that.

    Quid Pro Bias, BBC.

    — Richard

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  8. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Remember how the BBC kept telling you on Friday that the main reason – other than the squabbling politicians – S&P downgraded the US credit rating was because the debt agreement didn’t raise taxes all over the landscape?  Well, S&P had this to say about what really needs to be done:

    S&P Chief Looks at Entitlement Reform to Resolve Debt Downgrade


    David Beers, global head of sovereign and international public finance ratings at S&P, told “Fox News Sunday” that governments and Congresses come and go, but spending on entitlements persistently drags U.S. debt further into the red.

    “The key thing is, yes, entitlement reform is important because entitlements are the biggest component of spending, and the part of spending where the cost pressures are greatest,” Beers said.

    Well, well, well.  S&P apparently hates the elderly, the poorest, and the most vulnerable just as much as the evil Tea Party-backed Republicans.


    Beers said he faults both Congress and the Obama administration for “the difficulty of all sides in finding a consensus around fiscal policy choices,” but any agreement must command the support from both political parties in order to be durable.

    Mark Mardell and his BBC colleagues, on the other hand, blame only Congress, especially the Tea Party-backed Republicans.  The President escapes their scrutiny.

    The BBC did focus on the part of S&P’s Friday statement about the possibility of raising taxes, repeated here.

    “It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements, the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key
    to long-term fiscal sustainability,” the announcement reads.

    Though the announcement noted that S&P “takes no position on the mix of spending and revenue measures that Congress and the administration might conclude is appropriate for putting the U.S.’s finances on a sustainable footing,” the credit ratings group suggested that tax hikes may be necessary to reduce the overall debt burden needed to improve the long-term outlook.

    However, the S&P global ratings boss said this yesterday:

    Beers drew no such conclusion on Sunday, though John Chambers, managing director of S&P, told ABC’s “This Week” that President Obama’s fiscal commission last year “had plenty of sensible recommendations” for reducing U.S. debt. Those recommendations, which included cutting spending and increasing revenues on a 3-1 ratio, were ignored.

    “It was a pity that those really weren’t followed through on,” Chambers said.

    Revenues can also be increased by improving business conditions, by doing things like easing regulation and removing tax burdens.  I’ve provided plenty of evidence here and here that such a thing is possible, all of which has been hidden from you by the BBC.

    The President threw out this recommendation by His own fiscal commission because He refused to cut spending at all.  The fact that His idea is the exact opposite of what S&P recommends has also escaped BBC reporting.  They are ideologically biased and intellectually unable to report accurately on this issue.

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    • Andrew says:

      Mardell continued this theme in his blog post over the weekend

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14431319

      Looks like his narrative is one designed to put some distance between the chosen one and the rest of Washington.  Apparently the problem is down to the creaking checks and balances system.  This is particularly choice:

      The combination of a strict separation of legislature and executive, plus two-yearly congressional elections, all but encourages having different parties in control of different bits of government.

      Except that such a statement collides head on with what happened prior to the rise of the Tea Party in which the democrats ran the whole show and piled on spending increase and entitlement increases on top of each other with not a single thought for pausing to ask what the outcome of this would be.

      Mardell stupidly tries to claim that S&P’s comment on the change in stability is about the flaw in the checks and balances system that is the US approach.  he cites the following phrase as evidence of this:

      The political brinkmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed.

      This statement has nothing to do with Mardell’s interpretation.  S&P are merely observing that there has been a signifcant change from previous years in which the raising of the debt ceiling was a rubber stamping exercise and they can no longer interpet which way Washington will go on future such exercises.

      If it weren’t so serious this could be fun as looking over at Michelle Malkin’s blog as the in the world of Democrat revisionist history, they are now trying to position the Tea Party as the ones who stopped the chosen one doing a bigger deal on debt reduction:

      http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/07/kerry-downgrade/

      Here we see the old tactic of of projecting your behaviours onto your opponents in an effort to discredit them.  But yes you read it right, it was the Democrats that wanted to haul in spending and the Tea Party were against it.

      I do like her suggestion to test it out by calling them back to the table as a bi-partisan act to see where more cuts could be made.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Mardell is so far gone it’s sad.  He simply won’t admit that the President and the Dems didn’t want any cuts at all, and the only brinkmanship was to get them to agree to the tiniest cuts while raising the debt limit at least as much.  It’s a joke.

        He also again reveals the uselessness and false journalism of having a North America editor at all.  He’s not explaining how the US system works: he’s just giving you his opinion that it’s bad because it can sometimes prevent a party from ramming things he agress with through in an undemocratic fashion. This isn’t journalism, it is opinion-mongering.

        Make Mardell an essayist or political commentator if you must, but he is not a journalist or an honest broker of US news.

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      • Millie Tant says:

        Yes, I love the way he blunders along, like a blindfold donkey, inanely trashing the whole system of government!

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  9. George R says:

    The MASS IMMIGRATION into LONDON, which BBC-NUJ, along with all three main British political parties, and most of MSM have campaigned for, and still campaign for, e.g. for 80 million Muslim Turks into E.U., with million(s) coming to London:

    1.) London before mass immigration

    (9 min video)



    2.) London now, after mass immigration:

    (4 min video)



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    • It's all too much says:

      George – “London now, after mass immigration”  Has it stopped?

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      • George R says:

        No; of course not, as you know. 

         UK government is unable to control its own borders due to E.U. rules and E.U policy (such as enabling mass immigration from North Africa;

         All three major UK political parties campaign for entry of 80 million Muslim Turks into E.U., aided and abetted politically by Patten’s BBC-E.U.;

         Demographic trends in Britain point to increasing colonisation (and notably Islamisation) of what once was our country.

        The least worst solution is clear: get Britain out of E.U, and end mass immigration (in that order).

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  10. Martin says:

    Expect another BBC/Guardian alliance today. The BBC have been building up the lie that it’s those evil Tory cuts that caused the riots. So Newsnight will go big on it, followed by a big Guardian front page tomorrow (is St Polly still on holiday in her £750,000 villa?) and then an onslaught by the BBC all day tomorrow.

    How come lots of white folks living in remote villages are also ‘poor’ but don’t trash the village shop or try to make off with the old lady next door’s plasma TV.

    Perhaps black people living in inner cities should take a look at themselves, their lack of fathers in homes, their continual attitude of blame everyone for their plight except themselves.

    You don’t see the Chinese, Hindus or Sikhs rioting do you?

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  11. cjhartnett says:

    No doubt the BBC is happy to have all those big tellies getting tea-leafed from the Man!
    Means that they want to know the truth about “fings innit yah?”.
    Here in Cornwall I noted our ping pong ball at the camping site was “not fit for purpose”.
    We therefore “`ave nuffink to do innit blud” so I propose a riot…indeed I predict one!
    1. No license fee-“I is vulnerable and poor and its a tax on fax innit skin”.
    2. No TV on Tuesdays and 4-11.30p.m other nights…this will get me out to work and allow our chums at the BBC to rehearse-stop saying the first shit that comes into the brain innit mate.
    3. No digital either-I was not consulted and I will not throw all these lovely radios and tellies into the ocean man…sea levels will rise and the polar bears will suffer.
    Time to shaft the suckers we`re letting leech off us!

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  12. My Site (click to edit) says:

    I am sure there is some journalistic convention on quote marks/apostrophes around that says it’s fine and dandy, but on the BBC home page it currently says: ‘Soldier ‘cut fingers off Taliban’

    Only by delving on did I discover that this is, in fact, a matter of a claim that ‘

    Soldier allegedly cut fingers off dead Taliban’

    Spot the missing, and rathe critical word in the transition.

    BBC, you are professional news ediorial pond weed.

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    • Martin says:

      This is no different to the claim that soldiers cut off the ears of dead Argentine soldiers during Falklands war.

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  13. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The BBC’s riots Narrative continues.

    Was Tottenham’s riot a cry of rage?

    No prizes for guessing the answer.  Cuts, cuts, and more cuts.  Apparently this never would have happened otherwise.

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    • George R says:

      Yes; and of course, the political line from ‘Guardian’ echoes that of BBC bias.

      This superficial piece of leftist ‘analysis’ is outstanding for what it ignores, in a devious attempt to put the riots ‘in context’.

      Among other things, ‘Guardian’s Ms Power (not that American one) ignores:

      mass immigration;

      gangs;

      drugs;

      guns;

      thieving;

      13 years of Labour government.

      “There is a context to London’s riots that can’t be ignored”

      (But she blatantly ignores it!)

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/08/context-london-riots

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    • hippiepooter says:

      I’m sure the BBC will even-handedly examine the proposition that the Met needs to get back to being a ‘force’ not a ‘service’ and the best way they can foster good relations with the ‘community’ is if they stamp out crime.

      I wont hold my breathe waiting for this piece though.

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    • fred bloggs says:

      bBC giving too much air time to that scumbag Livingstone.  Being the complete shit he is, he is making polical points, taking advantage of the situation,  nobody gets lower than Livingstone.

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  14. Martin says:

    Yep Radio 5 are now spinning Alistair Campbell and Red Ken’s comments about Tory cuts as FACTS regarding the riots, just as the BBC spun fatty Abbotts lies as facts as well.

    Where the bloody hell is the Tory party in this?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      They got Chukka to come on the News Channel and say that the cuts haven’t started yet. 😀   Oops.

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  15. George R says:

    More Carbecues in Oslo

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  16. Evil Tory says:

    Time to stop immigration. Full stop. The word Youths is so disambiguous its almost see through.

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  17. My Site (click to edit) says:

    Nothing says ‘Uh-huh, yeah, right’ quite like ‘luxury and hope’.

    guardiannews Guardian news Gaza’s first five-star hotel provides luxury and hope amid the blockades http://gu.com/p/3x4dy/tf
    Now, who would be staying there?

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  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    So far, the BBC has mostly taken the President’s side against S&P. The News Online website is trying to be very, very balanced for a change.  One clip of Geithner saying S&P simply doesn’t understand basic math (oh, dear), and one from the S&P top ratings guy who says the US is currently on an unsustainable path.  At last, someone who uses that term for something other than green energy.  The Beeboids sure don’t understand the concept.

    The statement from the S&P can be spun either way, if one massages the words hard enough.  But it’s quite simple impossible to follow the President’s plan of spend, spend, spend.  It’s physically impossible for the US to raise enough taxes to reduce the deficit by $4 trillion, and clearly printing more money for more “stimulus” is exactly what S&P is calling unsustainable.  So the BBC has gotten it completely wrong.

    Watch how the Beeboids cover the President’s speech today.  I’m sure Mardell will be looking for inspiration like the good acolyte he is.  Nobody on the BBC will dare say that their beloved Obamessiah has it wrong.  They will love Him and support Him to the bitter end.

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  19. david hanson says:

    During a news bulletin on BBC WM in the West Midlands, some Beeboid twerp remarked that the riots were not as bad as those in the “Thatcher era”. Does anyone EVER remember any references to events in the “Wilson era”, “Callaghan era”, “Blair era” or “Brown era”?  I certainly don’t.

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  20. Louis Robinson says:

    Will they never stop??? Every chance to justify these mindless thugs. Here’s a paragraph using an incident to spin the facts: “A BBC journalist said the latest violence started in Mare Street, Hackney, when a man was stopped and searched by police but nothing was found.” Implication: this is happening all the time, damn pigs!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

    And so the narrative will continue: bad police – poor inncocent victims lashing back at police. 

    A little exercise: without knowing the facts, describe the “man”.

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    • Span Ows says:

      “A little exercise: without knowing the facts, describe the “man”.”

      White, Christian, Conservative, conservative, right wing, blogger? oops, silly me, had it been remotely like any of those things it would have been in the headline.

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  21. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC how the seeds of anti-Semitism it sows bear fruit and a story they will never air.
    Israeli receives anti-Semitic messages from eBay supplier
    An Israeli eBay customer was shocked to discover anti-Semitic messages scrawled on the invoice for a book he received on Wednesday, delivered from an outlet in the UK. Michael Romano, 24, from Rosh Ha’ayin, opened the package containing his new book to discover that someone had drawn swastikas on the receipt and written the words Hitler, Jude, and SS on it.The Thames Valley Police, under whose jurisdiction the incident falls, has confirmed that it is being treated as a hate crime under the UK Malicious Communications Act of 1988 and that an investigation is currently underway.The book was bought through an eBay supplier called Brit Books based in Buckinghamshire.

    Now imagine the publicity the bBC would have given this story if the victim was a Muslim in Pakistan who found a receipt with the words: Paki, Mohammed was paedophile and Muslims like little girls for sex.

    The bBC, the Islamic fifth column in the Uk

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  22. London Calling says:

    Interesting piece by the excellent autonomous mind on how the left-wing media are in cahoots with self-styled wheelchair rioter Jody Macintire, star of Tory HQ Student Cuts riots who made it from South London to Tottenham, tweeting away.

    http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/tottenham-shows-its-time-to-end-the-jody-mcintyre-roadshow/

    The riots seemed to me sparked by criminal elements encouraged by malicious and reckless speculation by the media pushing an imflamatory narrative. Sources quoted by the Guardian about a police hollow point bullet would have to be within the police forensic service. Never mind The Screws, who is the Guardian getting its stories from inside the Police service?

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  23. pounce_uk says:

    How the bBC promotes a new state religion to 98% of the population who don’t follow Islam.
    Dubai Burj Khalifa: Ramadan fast ‘lasts longer high up’
    Muslims living in the world’s tallest building, the Burj Khalifa, should fast longer during the Ramadan holy month, Dubai’s leading clerics have said.
    Can disabled people break the rules of Ramadan?
    The Islamic season of Ramadan is upon us. For observers, this means becoming more connected with the Qur’an and a feeling that your good deeds are multiplied. And as most people know, it means abstaining from all food and drink, including water, between sunrise and sunset. A challenge for anyone at any time of year.
    Cambridge mosque in ‘buy a brick’ plea
    A “buy a brick appeal” has been launched to help raise funds for Cambridge’s first purpose-built mosque.It is estimated around 350,000 bricks are needed for the Abu Bakr Jamia Mosque.The appeal has been timed for Ramadan, the Muslim month of prayer and fasting. Each brick will cost £1.40.
    Ramadan
    A special programme with music and reflections for the holy month of Ramadan. (One for everyday of Ramadan)
    BBC – Food – Occasions : Eid el-Fitr recipes

    The Story of Abdullah During Ramadan (Subject: Religious Education)
    Story of Abdullah, a poor blind man who picks up ten gold coins dropped accidentally by a merchant at the start of Ramadan. Abdullah spends Ramadan fasting and praying while the merchant thinks only of his money. At the end of Ramadan the money is used to provide a feast for the poor.
    Note how the bBC justifies to young Muslims that stealing is acceptable.

    All of those are only a few days old, When was the last time you saw the bBC put as much effort into: Easter/Christmas/Lent etc…
     

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    • David Gregory says:

      With BBC Food you can actually put “Easter” or “Ramadan” into the search box, Pounce. Eid gives 13 recipes, Ramadan one and Easter 119. (St David’s Day also scores one). So Easter way out in front as you’d expect.

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  24. hippiepooter says:

    I caught

    Ross Griffiths who runs an employment cafe in Brixton, a ‘root causes’ advocate, and Max Wincally of ‘Demos’, an unbridled criminality advocate.  Is it just me, or did he give an easy ride to one, giving him prompts to put his view rather than challenging it, and was a tad hostile to the other?  You’ll notice that when the latter put his view Eddie Mair put a question to him he didn’t come close to putting to the other to back up his claims.  Begins about 17:45mins in

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0135s8w/PM_08_08_2011/

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  25. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ’s ‘poor victims’.

    “London riots: live”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8687177/London-riots-live.html

    Can we be poor victims and not pay the BBC licence fee?

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  26. George R says:

    Perhaps Beeboids may now think that moving from London to Salford may not be so bad after all.

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  27. George R says:

    Will the following affect BBC-NUJ political empathy for rioters and criminals?:

    “London on lockdown as police face gangs armed with petrol bombs and poles on third night of riots”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023554/LONDON-RIOTS-Third-night-violence-police-consider-banning-Notting-Hill-carnival.html#ixzz1UT77rU5c

    Are the BBC-NUJ haunts of Hampstead and Highgate to play host to the looters?

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  28. Roy Stirred-Oyster says:

    The predictable copy-cat disturbances have kicked off in Birmingham City Centre, however, the Beeb have relegated  the story to the “England” page.  (It’s my home town and where I live).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-14452468

    I note that the disturbances are “close to the City’s Cathedral”.

    Which one? Birmingham has two Cathedrals.

    “The World’s largest news-gathering organisation…”, so we are led to believe.

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  29. Martin says:

    These riots are yet another example of the weak Tory government. Liebore/BBC are blaming ‘cuts’ and we know that the Liebore councils are cutting front line jobs whilst keeping the lesbian condom advisor’s.

    When Pickles became legal government boss he should have audited all councils and make them cut the lesbian nappy changers and the 5 a day Cocaine snorters before any other jobs went.

    The Police should have also been sorted out, 13 years of leftist control through police authorities, the brainwashing of plods with their diversity training and I have to say the recruitment of the wrong sort of person as plod, right from the diversity obsessed senior officers and rather skinny small ‘men’ who wouldn’t put the fear of god into a cat.

    In a way this might be a good thing, the Tories will either have to get tough now or this could bring the Government down (with a bit of luck)

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    • Evil Tory says:

      Labour voters realise too late that they overslept and missed the last election.

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    • George R says:

      ‘Telegraph’ View:”The real community must be protected.London’s rioters should be met with a stronger police presence. ”

      [Excerpt]:

      “But the suspicion will be strong that a ‘softly, softly’ response was considered appropriate because of the ethnically diverse nature of the areas where the trouble erupted. If so, this was a grave error and one that may have contributed to the trouble spreading to other parts of the city. The word ‘community’, heard so often in the past few days, has become a euphemism for an allegedly disfranchised group of young men and women whose alienation from the mainstream of society is used to excuse criminal behaviour. For years, the police have been encouraged to ‘engage’ with these people. But the real community surely comprises the law-abiding majority, among them those the rioters burnt out of their homes and the shopkeepers who looked in vain to the police to protect their property from being sacked and torched – such as Aaron Biber, an 89-year-old barber who had all his equipment stolen by looters.
      The view of this real community is not to be heard in the sentiments of bleeding heart liberals, who always find an explanation for such behaviour beyond opportunistic greed and mindless vandalism.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/8689010/The-real-community-must-be-protected.html

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  30. George R says:

    One key easy question for Cameron at Cobra emergency meeting tomorrow morning:

    “Do we carry on with ‘political correct’ Guardian-BBC-NUJ soft police ‘service’ for rioters, arsonists and looters, OR do we start doing some real policing?”

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  31. cjhartnett says:

    Do I see the “Now cameron turns the police/troops on his OWN people!” line coming down the track?
    Sadly, most of this rabble won`t trun out to be “our people” at all…just scum who know they`ll only get a community sentence for decent trainers and a nice TV-thank you very much Nu Labour and Brussels!
    Still-at least they`re getting some of that fresh air we were told they weren`t getting by sitting too long in their rooms and smoking drugs!
    The clots with their “Positive Parenting” leaflets will be most pleased at our youth getting their exercise…our tubby coppers won`t catch any of them unless the thugs bang into lamposts due to not being able to see out of those hoodies!
    Bet they`re quaking now that Cameron has joined May at the supply teachers inspection…they can expect really bad body language as well as distinctly pursed lips…

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  32. cjhartnett says:

    The BBC seem to only have two modes here-either hand wringing…or rubbing their hands with glee!
    Seems now to tell one from the other…the BBC seem to think that they win either way-self righteous or wallowing in thier stirring of trouble>
    Time to sponsor our Tottenham tribune to take the BBC away with them brick by brick…the Oystercards to Shepherds Bush can be reclaimed as worthwhile expenses surely!

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  33. John Anderson says:

    A slight glimmer of good news – Jody McIntyre’s blog has now been dropped by the Independent.

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  34. Martin says:

    Ken Livingstone talking utter bollocks on Newsnight. “These kids need a job” spouts Red Ken.

    Have you seen these halfwits? What exactly could most of them be employed doing exactly?

    Driving a bus, sweeping the streets? They don’t want those jobs because they get more on benefits, which is why it’s the Polish doing most of the manual jobs.

    Perhaps Red Ken thinks some halfwit who can’t write his name is going to go and work at McLaren F1 or something? Perhaps get into Oxford University?

    Perhaps if our schools actually turned out educated adults rather than walking dross they might stand the chance of a job.

    Oh and Newsnight ARE spinning the ‘Tory cuts’ as I said they would, also blaming Thatcher (back to the 80’s)

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  35. Llew says:

    One Show spouting usual left wing bollocks, lies with no one available to put things straight. Piece about the closure of RAF Lyneham and transfer of repatriation flights to Brize Norton – the loss of the people being able to pay their respect to the home coming of brave troops along the streets of Wootton Bassettt is all down to this Government’s budget cuts (according to the leftie presenter). Never mind that the closure of Lyneham was announced by Labour a few years ago (and was planned even further
    back). No just link it to the current Government because it makes for better telly and lands a blow onto the Tories.

    Leftie Scum. Serves me right for accidentally catching a piece of their dumbed down lefty drivel.

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  36. isoprophex says:

    Just seen Newsnight and I thought Shaun Derry was very robust.

    Ken Livingstone was sickening and its was just a lefty lovefest.

    But what seems to changing is that the disorder is now hitting some of the nicer parts of London-the places where hacks and the chattering classes live…..

    “Where are the police the cry goes out”. The agit-prop that the left has been pumping out is now starting to come back to bite them on the hand.

    Now a man has been shot in Croydon and “the yoof” now rules parts of London-and the more of the chattering classes get hit, the more they have to reflect upon.

    I am not surprised either-this has been coming for years, a toxic mixture of pandering to these thugs, welfare dependancy, family breakdown and the failure to instill respect for others or themselves.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      Yes its getting pretty close to where the luvvies live.

      “rachelkennedy84 Rachel Kennedy
      @RickGlanvill didn’t hear that one.. Hoping fewer sirens tonight didn’t sleep a bloody wink last night @gaetanportal”

      https://twitter.com/#!/rachelkennedy84

      Now we will see some action.

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      • isoprophex says:

        Indeed….isn’t the Ealing Broadway where the lovvies and the chattering classes go and unwind over a cup of lentil soup?

        And isn’t Camden where the trendies go shopping?

        Because if it is, they will not be getting much sleep tonight……….

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        • John Horne Tooke says:

          I’m Ok (so far)  I live 240 miles from London. But it is only a matter of time. If people will make excuses for the these idiots it will only get worse.

          Maybe this will force the luvvies to move to Salford.

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    • Martin says:

      Funny you say that because I keep hearing beeboids and Sky hacks saying they live in these areas.

      What I find funny is that in the USA there would be  acurfew, martial law and the NG on the streets, Here we get a couple of fat plods driving around in an Astra diesel.

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      • isoprophex says:

        Indeed, and I gather some lefty hack at the Guardian has already taken a kicking.

        When Kevin “working class hero” Mcguire say the police need to use batons and water cannon, even the lefty shits are now scared.

        And some poor lamb from Sky is discribing how her flat has been burnt down….

        But they are breaking into houses- I think it might be baton rounds coming out tomorrow.

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      • Simon says:

        The sight of massed unarmed teletubbies in uniform very cautiously following the savages’ progress along some London drag brings home how bloody useless they are.

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    • dave s says:

      Now watch the liberal left start to squeal. Their insane policies and disregard of what a civilisation actually is and how fragile it is stands revealed in all it’s absurdity. Civilisation depends on order,custom, family and law and their childlike rebellion against these truths  will come to haunt them as their areas go up in flames.
      Soon they will be demanding curfews, tanks on the streets and order at any price. They have bought my country to this pass and deserve nothing but contempt.
      We need new men and new ways and now maybe we , the put upon real people of England, will get them.

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      • isoprophex says:

        Indeed……..

        I was interested to hear a “community worker” from Lambeth discribe the protestors as “pure evil”

        Really-were we not told that these people were poor little lambs with no jobs. I gether they were not going to the youth club to play pool then……

        Now where does Ken live………………..??????????

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        • Martin says:

          Agreed, these are just young people expressing their opinion in their own way, the Guardianistas should be rejoicing at this.

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  37. John Horne Tooke says:

    By 2100 Britain, with its massive fuel prices and highest “green” taxes in the world, will have reduced the average world temperature by ~0.00224°C.  
     
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/07/worldwide-co2-emissions-and-the-futility-of-any-action-in-the-west/#more-44703  
     
    And that is not including an degree of error. Well done Cameron. A special thanks to Black et al for keeping the pressure on. Well done lads.

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  38. pounce_uk says:

    Currently listening to the bbC news and if I only gleaned my news off them. I would have the impression that actually this isall the fault of the police.

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    • pounce_uk says:

      Stupid bBC presenter just asked the bBC reporter what kind of people are carrying out these crimes, lets see, Tottenham,Lewisham,Peckham,Brixton,Croydon,Clapham, Birmingham gee I don’t know what links all those areas. Let me see…..

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      • isoprophex says:

        Pounce

        Of course its the police fault……they have not managed to save the wine bar!!!!!

        Now its “leafy suburbs”-how worrying for the trendies…….

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      • Barry says:

        “….lets see, Tottenham, Lewisham, Peckham, Brixton, Croydon, Clapham, Birmingham”

        But not, say, Southall, Golders Green or Chinatown. Too busy working.

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  39. George R says:

    ‘Telegraph’: Christine ODONE puts Emily MAITLIS right on vocabulary:

    “Could the BBC please stop calling the rioters ‘protesters’?”

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cristinaodone/100100062/could-the-bbc-please-stop-calling-the-rioters-protesters/

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      The BBC, calling these people “protesters” are legitimising their actions.  They have tortured the English language so much over the years that they now have less words to choose from to describe this “militancy”.

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    • Daniel Smith says:

      I actually surprised they haven’t been called “activists”.

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  40. Martin says:

    The Guardian comments section is a hoot, they must be injecting some serious shit in those student hovels.

    It’s all the work of the far right (sure the black community is full of far right lunatics) and more comments of “bring down the system”

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  41. isoprophex says:

    I wonder if they will move on to Hampstead………….that would be ironic indeed.

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  42. London Calling says:

    The back door is wide open -code: “Commonwealth”.

    Fear of being called “racist” is the only government policy. 13 years of Scottish labour Lawyer Shite is what rules our public services. I watch thousands of Africans pouring in every day, baby buggies full – school please, doctor please, housing please, Pidgin’ now official language.

    FFS Cameron asleep at the wheel. When will the English burn down Downing Street?

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    • Martin says:

      Yes there are lots of plasmas in the House of Commons, can’t someone point the way.

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  43. isoprophex says:

    I have to smile-I have never seen so many shit scared hacks coming face to face with the real world.

    For everybody else in the country who have to live with these shits-its just another day. Every Friday/Saturday night in town centre’s its the same old story.

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  44. Martin says:

    Beeboids do seem to be getting rather worried don’t they? What’s the problem? When student scum were smashing up London BBC seemed to enjoy it.

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    • isoprophex says:

      Indeed…some of them live in Woolwich and Colliers Wood…..now up in flames.

      If I was Titliss going home tonight-I would be making other arrangments……..

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  45. isoprophex says:

    Now Uxbridge has been hit………

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  46. Martin says:

    On the good news side, it appears that the ‘weapon of choice’ for the inner city vermin is the Blackberry phone, this is great news for RIM who make the Blackberry.

    The  iphone is the phone of choice for the luvvie leftie beeboid and the BB for the thieving little inner city turd.

    I don’t have either.

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  47. Simon says:

    Livingstone blaming it all on thwarted ambition. Maybe he should join in.

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  48. isoprophex says:

    I see the Scoucers have now kicked off…

    I’ve got a five year old Nokia-does that count?

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    • Martin says:

      Give your Nokia to Gordon Brown 🙂

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    • Barry says:

      That’s brand new by my standards. I’ve got a Nokia 5-something or other (one of those rubber cased ones).

      It’s got a built in thermometer – how cool is that!

      Now if someone would loot by local Vodaphone store I could get a free upgrade.

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  49. pounce_uk says:

    I see others have cottoned onto the bBCs agenda

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    • Martin says:

      Funny that now the ‘efniks’ are smashing up the luvvie areas the BBC don’t seem so keen on it any more.

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