96 Responses to OPEN THREAD…

  1. john says:

    I knew I’d seen that jazzy sign for the last couple of Open Threads somewhere before.
    At first I thought it was my Off-licence but then remembered it’s where your TV licence goes.

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  2. As I See It says:

    BBC News 24. Malcolm Brabant enjoying some demos in Athens. The police are using ‘….Isreali teargas, which is particularly pungent…’

    Casual leftism!

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      Greece, an insight in to what happens when a whole nation adopts the public sector work ethic!  

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      • NotaSheep says:

        Fighting for the right to retire at 53. Early retirement to be paid for by hard-working Germans and some of us.

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  3. TheGeneral says:

    Just watched the Daily Politics. How could they think Ed Milliband beat Cameron at PMQs today. He went on one point in which he was incorrect and was definitively answered each time by Cameron.
    The BBC then put on a spokesperson for McMillan Cancer who was a former Labour advisor and totally fudged the question.
    Anita always picks out Labour supporting emails. On the other hand when Jo Coburn is on you would never know which side of the politicaj divide she is on.. refreshingly proper reporting uncommon on BBC.
    Cecil Parkinsom was useless. He sat there and let them misrepresent his Party without any intervention or comment.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The News Channel just did the same thing. There was a whole segment of Red Ed screaming and spitting, “Will he now admit that cancer patients are worse off,” etc.  Then we had Laura K. saying that Cameron, “unusually, didn’t have the correct facts to hand” (or similar words, but she did say ‘unusually’).  The text crawl underneath had both Miliband and McMillan saying that cancer patients were being harmed.

      Now there’s another segment on, with Liam Byrne saying the same thing.  In the interests of balance, the newsreader challenged him by saying that she “understands” that the Government actually isn’t harming people on work benefits with cancer.  This was, of course, a set-up for Byrne to lay out his attack.  Then the newsreader read out a Government statement the producers had prepared in advance.  Byrne called it “a disgraceful policy” and explained his point of view again, quoting McMillan.

      I guess this is balance.  The BBC reads out the Government statement, then the opponent tells his side, then the BBC reads out the Government’s statement again, then the guy speaks his mind again.  His argument is not challenged at all.  The audience hears the same Government statement over and over, and the Labour figure gets to explain his side three different waysm and close by saying that the Government won’t even allow a debate on the issue in Parliament.

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    • NotaSheep says:

      Cecil Parkinson! Why was he a guest other than to allow BBC to run a remember this one undercurrent?

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  4. cjhartnett says:

    Oh no!
    Unemployment good news…so cue the “increase in benefits” angle taken by the BBC-even though this is intended to smoke a few dossers out…I paraphrase!
    So -it`s bad news after all…and it`ll get worse, mark my words.
    No chance of Grayling doing us a head count of any many leeches he saw on his trip to the studio is there?
    No-Tories couldn`t hit a barn door with a banjo!
    I miss old Norman Tebbit and Nicholas Ridley-the latest metrosexual saps have never kicked an oik in anger!

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    • Lloyd says:

      I loathe the BBC bias, but I have ZERO pity for the Conservatives – they allow it  to happen, so deserve everything they get.

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        It’s got to the stage where it’s actually embarassing to watch ‘Conservatives’ on the BBC.
        “Please like me, please like me, I’m weak and pathetic and detoxifying the brand, why won’t you be my friend”

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  5. Span Ows says:

    Step Flanders doesn’t like the fall in unemployment!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13777923

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Flanders is mad.  In both senses of the word.  Just last year she was saying that public sector employment is a good thing and will drive growth of the GDP.  Public housing construction is paid for by the government (PFIs), so doesn’t really count as the private sector, and definitely doesn’t drive “growth” of anything other than buildings.  But ‘Two Eds’ thinks it does.  Yet out of the other side of her mouth, she claims that only production drives growth, so hiring in the public sector doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

      Madnessm, and ideologically driven.  Print money and throw it around = sustainable growth?  Not in the real world.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Of course she’s mad.  She shagged Ed Balls.

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        • As I See It says:

          The Tories give up the argument and all sense of logic every time they meekly allow a Labour spokesman/BBC correspondent to refer to any and all public expenditure as ‘investment’!

          It happens every day and goes unchallenged.

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  6. George R says:

    Another reason to close down Islam Not BBC’s World Service now.

    Many World Service employees, and not only in Arabic TV service (East Wing of Broadcasting House, London), but INBBC Muslim employees throughout Islamic regions of the world, are politically sympathetic to Muslim Brotherhood, and to other Islamic supremacist groups, as in this case to Hizb ut-Tahrir. ***

    ***- No doubt INBBC has reported the following scandal about itself – it must be that I just can’t find the INBBC ‘report’…

    “BBC Journalist Urunboi Usmonov Detained In Tajikistan On Suspected Terrorism Connections”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/15/bbc-journalist-urunboi-us_n_877246.html

    Of course, INBBC censors this from INBBC licencepayers who are expected to pay for INBBC’s global Isamisation methods when financial and security burden shifts from UK taxpayers to licencepayers.

    Some quick ways for BBC-NUJ to save money:

    1.) close down  all World Service, especially the Islamising staff;

    2.) cut out all junkets for BBC-NUJ staff e.g. Wimbledon, pop concerts, golf, Olympics,etc.,etc.;

    3.) sell off Broadcasting House buildings around the UK;

    4.) cut top salaries and expenses.

    5.) this is only a first step to total closure of BBC – its propaganda and waste.



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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The BBC probably thinks of him as a freedom fighter.

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    • deegee says:

      The Guardian is on to it. I guess we will have to wait until tomorrow’s edition is distributed for the BBC to catch on.

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  7. Chuffer says:

    Most media point out the ethnicity of the suspects in this case (clue- the group have a Mohammed Quotient of 33%).
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8575632/Nine-go-on-trial-for-grooming-and-abusing-young-girls.html

    But not the BBC; it’s tucked away on the Manchester pages:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-13774851

    Ah, the Religion pf Peace and Young Girls!

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  9. John Anderson says:

    The BBC is usually first in line to act as mouthpiece/loudspeaker for the Palestinians.

    But have they covered the story that Arab states failed to stump up more than a third of the money they promised for 2010 – and have not given a brass farthing for 2011 ?

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144909

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  10. pounce_uk says:

    Death by cucumber, the bBCs leftist mindset and rebranding illegal immigrants as the real victims.
    E. coli crisis: A bitter harvest for Spain’s migrant workers
    The bBC in yet another example of its socialist ideology has concocted a picture narrative on the impact of the current E-coli crisis in Europe which has resulted in over 35 deaths and hospitalised many more.

    The bBC waxes lyrical about how undocumented migrant workers (aka Illegal’s) who account for the vast majority of farm workers in Spain are really feeling the pinch with the turndown in European salad sales. How they cannot afford to rent homes and how Spanish farmers cashed in during the good times by building ostentatious homes. Gosh how bad of them, I suppose in the la la land the bBC idiots inhabit those farmers should have instead given away all their wealth to illigal immigrants.

    Strange how the bBC while berating the employers fail to mention the amnesty which in 2005 gave citizenship to anybody who had lived in Spain for a year. Yup the amnesty to end all amnesties has clearly worked in clearing the decks in Spain.

    I’m sure that some bBC idiotic expert will be banging their drum in the not so distance future how giving illegal’s a Spanish passport  will benefit the country.

    Even stranger is how only a few weeks ago the bBC knocked up an article on the rise of Latin Americans living in London.
    Research by the University of London has found that there are now some 113,000 Latin Americans in London, up from 31,000 in 2001.

    Gee I wonder from which country they are all coming from?

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  11. Anders Thomasson says:

    This poor dear’s children starve and it’s doubtless the handiwork of those evil Tories…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13765820

    …maybe I’m an old cynic but seven children? I think we found the cause of this particular woman’s problem.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Part of the “Assault on the Working Classes” Narrative.  It’s not the Tories’ fault that food prices are skyrocketing because green subsidies have made too many farmers grow biofuels instead of food, or have poor harvests because far-Left propaganda led too many people around the world to refuse to grow hardier GM crops, and it’s not the Tories’ fault that the previous Government spent the country and the pound into the toilet, or that fuel prices have gone up so much.

      But that contradicts the Narrative, so never mind.  Just do the sob story.

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    ‘Critics are saying…’

    …especially if briefed and lined up to do so in coordinated complement.

    http://www.thecommentator.com/index.php/article/231/pmqs_miliband_shamefully_plays_the_cancer_card

    the update is an interesting insight into how some politics and some media seem to be a smidge too keen on that there narrative.

    Of course, one is sure this is nothing the BBC and its staff would engage in, much less endorse.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      And apparently the charity mouthpiece is a former Labour staffer who coordinated the attack with Miliband.  What a shock.  No need to take it all with a grain of salt, BBC?

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  13. cjhartnett says:

    6.00 news on the BBC then?
    Had the unemployment figures been bad , no doubt that is all we would have heard at the top of the bulletins.
    Instead we got some emoting spat where a swivel eyed Miliband mentions something about cancer-and THIS gets the headlines.
    No doubt, the pictures were staged to show “their boy” looking all fiery and compassionate!
    Welcome to the BBC.
    No matter though-Ed told us all earlier in the week that Labour were the Party of bankers and scroungers…couldn`t have summed them all up better in a soundbite, so thanks Ed!

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  14. John Horne Tooke says:

    Emma Swain, the BBC’s Head of Knowledge Commissioning:

    “The film does show some other perspectives but it is not critical that every film we make is completely impartial and balanced.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/8574762/BBC-flooded-with-complaints-over-Choosing-to-Die-documentary.html

    It seems its not critical that any programme “is completely impartial and balanced.” at the BBC.

    How many films does it take that are not “completely impartial and balanced”  before the BBC see the bias? Are we now going to see a programme that is “not completely impartial and critical” from the other point of view? Yes? No? If not soon then the BBC has proved its biased.  One side of a controversial subject has been aired with no chance of descent being shown.

    Why don’t they just tear up the charter and stop the pretence?

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    BBC to create new series of Midsomer Murders.

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  16. Jon S says:

    why can’t the BBC have a Tory supporting business leader fronting The Apprentice?

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  17. pounce_uk says:

    How the bBC covers up abuse against women in Islamic countries
    Two stories where the bBC goes out of its way in which to downplay the abuse women face in both Pakistan and Bangladesh. (Used to be known as East Pakistan)
    Bangladesh academic’s husband held ‘after beating her’
    Police in Bangladesh have arrested a husband whom they suspect of “mercilessly beating” his university lecturer wife. The accused man, Syeed Hasan Sumon, is reported to have assaulted Assistant Professor Rumana Manjur so severely that she may lose both eyes.The case has attracted much interest in Bangladesh, where reports of middle class domestic violence are unusual.

    Pakistani woman villager is forced to ‘parade naked’
    Police in Pakistan say they have arrested two men for stripping a woman naked and parading her in a village.One of the offenders had accused the woman’s son of having illicit relations with his wife, the police said.Public dishonouring of women is not uncommon in Pakistan and other parts of South Asia, but the incident is rare in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

    So two countries where women are born with a target on their backs, in fact in another article from the bBC ,Pakistan is deemed the 3rd most dangerous place on the planet for women to live yet above it claims that women getting abused in Khyber is a rare event…really? As for Bangladesh would that be the country where the bBC ran a picture story about how women are been taught martial arts in which to be able to defend themselves. But then its no bloody good agaisnt acid attacks something Bangledesh is infamouse for. I won’t even bother talking about eve teasing
    Yet the simpletons at the bBC cannot allow Islam the religion of peace to be cast in a bad light so they indicate in both of the above that those events are rare.

    P,S
    If any bBC goons are reading this, that black belt teaching women how to fight in Bangledesh has a very poor front kick, not only that, but instead of looking at her target, she looks down. With her arms in no postion to defend herself

    Wouldn’t last 5 seconds on any circuit.

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    • pounce_uk says:

      Further to my last here is something else I’ve dug up in light of the bBCs claim that violence against women is rare in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.  Aka North West frontier you know that Taliban run area next to Afghanistan.    
         
      According to the statistics from the report cited in the leading daily The News, the province of Punjab tops the list in incidents of violence against women with 5,722 cases out of the total 8,548 cases for Pakistan.  
      Comparatively, the province of Sindh reported the second highest instance of violence against women with 1,762 cases, while Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (formerly the North West Frontier Province) and Baluchistan experienced 655 and 237 cases of violence against women respectively.  


      I suppose to the bBC 655 incidents of abuse accounts to rare when juxtaposed against 5722. By the same criteria, Abu Grabib and Guantanamo were non events. Funny how the bBC doesn’t see it that way.  

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    • deegee says:

      I never learnt karate but something about her stance suggests she is just posing for the cameras rather than teaching.

      I guess an incompetent teacher is better than none.

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      • pounce_uk says:

        Actually its pretty poor, something tells me she isn’t a black belt. Rather she is a student dressed up for the part by the bBC. Have a look at the students behind her, they show that they have been taught correctly. Arms up,heads up, and most of all toes up.

        That so called 1st dan, well she makes mistakes that people starting up make. Look at her toes, why she even has her thumbs tucked inside her hands  (big mistake) during that front kick. Then there’s how she isn’t using her hips in which to push out that front punch. Instead she allows her shoulders to lean forward. Basic mistakes usually found in novices.

        Finally her stances are too narrow in which to secure a firm grounding on the floor. Yes I suppose it could be a fast style, but even they teach some form of basic stance ususally Kiba-Dach

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        • cjhartnett says:

          Oh Pounce you do worry so!
          We may not have heard much about these abuses from the Asian Community( not Muslim…not at all!) ,but you sure as fun will hear a lot about the Magdelene girls of Ireland.

          Yes folks-nuns and the state were evil sadistic bastards to many young girls in their charge, and that institutional care was not the right description of state( and in Ireland Catholic) connivance in the outrages. All true!

          Still the books not enough, the films not enough…Sarah Montague seemed concerned enough this morning to bring it all out again and restimulate some poor old lady into demanding more. Creepy Catholics over the Irish Sea-safe and virtuous, right on as ever!
          Thankfully the lady didn`t want the “mandatory” apology…she just wanted the “f**kin` money( St Robert of Geldof!)-Sarah called them reparations though because she is cleverer that the old soak set before her throne.
          Here`s my point-where was the BBC throughout all this then?…surely not following the pony and trap long after the news had long grown painfully stale(Rowan-sainthood in question).
          Any Beeb stuff coming up about the care scandals here in England whilst old Timpson and Redhead did the show? Not at all-ask old Margaret Hodge and hubby-safe to say you`ll not be hearing of anything here..just anti-Catholic colcannon from safe across the water!

          And to your story pounce-Pakistan, Bangladesh, Blackpool and sex slavery/ paedophile/shop owners in our northern mill towns etc-real scandals and abuses right here and now?…Sarahs gone all shy and coy on us…any reasons why folks…I refer you to my clue in line 3!

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  18. pounce_uk says:

    Yesterday I wrote this over the bBCs article about how illigal immigrants are having it hard over salad dodgers in Europe.  
    I’m sure that some bBC idiotic expert will be banging their drum in the not so distance future how giving illegal’s a Spanish passport  will benefit the country.  “  
     
    Less than 12 hours later I read this:  
    It was about two years ago. I was returning from a weekend trip to France and found myself in a long queue of traffic on a dual carriageway just outside the port of Calais.  
     
    There right in front of us were dozens of young men walking between the vehicles and opening the backs of trucks to clamber inside.  They were evidently mostly Afghans, taking advantage of the fact the traffic was moving slowly to try anything to sneak a ride into the UK. All this less than 30 miles from Kent.   
       
    For me, any thoughts of disapproval at the unruly behaviour I was witnessing evaporated at the sight of a teenage boy cowering dangerously at the top of a lorry driver’s cab under the back canopy.   He was not a trouble-maker. He was obviously petrified but still so desperate to get on to a car ferry to Britain, he was going to take the risk.

    Gee I wonder how he knew he wasn’t a trouble maker.

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    • It's all too much says:

      Take the risk…It was a simple game theory decision, he was taking the (vanishingly small) risk of ‘capture’ (try again tomorrow mon ami) or injury for a (very big) reward – free housing, health, education and a comparatively huge work-free income for life for himself and his extended family. Just how long would he be on a roof, approx 10 mins I guess, as he would jump off and merge with the passengers when on the ferry.  Even the pathetic sham of a Border Agency at Dover may (with a following wind) notice him if he sat on the roof of a truck when disembarking.

      What utterly purile BBC nonsense, talking emotive cr*p rather than examine the facts – a typical arguement of the liberal left.  Miliband payed this to perfection yesterday with his “Toried don’t care if you have cancer” stunt.  Filthy, manipulative tripe. 

      Perhaps the Beeboid would be happy to personally support the net costs of this hero and his families for say the next 40 years?*  I didn’t notice any question as to why the migrant was perching on a roof fleeing the torture and vile conditions of the nototiously dangerous Pas de Calais? 

      *To be fair I would allow the Beeboid to keep the net cash that this individual and his extended family generateds over 40 years………. I wouldn,t hold my breath beeboids

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    • NotaSheep says:

      And why so desperate to get to UK? Is France that dangerous for him? Does he fear persecution in France? Or are UK benefits the lure?

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  19. pounce_uk says:

    I see the Daily Telegraph is running with the following article;
    BBC reporter detained for membership of ‘extreme Islamic group’

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  20. As I See It says:

    Its the little asides that give an insight into their office culture and show up the prevailing attitudes. BBC News 24 and a report on the up coming sale at Christie’s of Al Capone’s revolver. Simon McCoy says ‘…I wouldn’t want to buy a gun…’ Who asked? Please just read the news.

    Casual leftism

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    The latest from Pat Condell:

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  22. cjhartnett says:

    Talk about joined up BBC thinking!
    On the last “All in the Mind” programme, we were told about “expert predictions” and how only the equivocal look likely to be proved more correct over time-unless they truly DO know the markets/circumstances that they speak of…unlikely in the case of analysts as opposed to people who actually practice.
    So-we`ve seen the return of Peston these last few days, Harrabin of course…but best of all Flanders today!
    Flanders_YET AGAIN-was called upon to talk about the Eurozone and the Greeks…Naughtie clearly unable to ask about her track record so far, her inability to explain anything in advance; and why she of all people should even be asked anything anymore.
    I could go on about “Sir” Howard Davies and his “analysis” of current Treasury plans to do something…but all I could picture was the bald old coot getting sunscreen rubbed tenderly into his scalp last time he was in Tripoli with the Gadaffi boy! 

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    • Jane Tracy says:

      Stephanie Flanders was on radio 4’s Today programme this morning telling us about the risks of contagion from events in Greece.  
       
      Those on the programme do not ask this “expert” why she told us this only a month ago on May 10th .  
       
      Why the Greek bail-out has worked

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  23. George R says:

    For Islam Not BBC (INBBC):

    “Girl of 15 ‘sold off to chip shop workers by gang for £100 petrol money'”http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/35804

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  24. pounce_uk says:

    For years the Left and their ilk have pushed out this message that Islam is a religion of peace and that actually it is everybody else who are the racist bigots. However 10 solid years of Islamic acts in which they have gone well out of their way in which to expose just how violent and ugly Islam is, has resulted in the whole world seeing for themselves that actually Islami isn’t a religion of peace. 

     

    However the bBC still flies the flag for Islam and today it airs three stories in which to do just that . The first is about how Islam is a religion of peace and that women are treated equally under it. (Maybe we should ask those woman in Bangledesh , Iran andPakistan which the bbC mentioned as been victims of rare attacks this week)

     

    The second is about how a Christian is seeking repentance for treating gays less favourably than straight people I quote:

    Symon Hill says he wants to highlight repressive attitudes towards gay men and women in some Christian groups.

    The message being here that only Christians are homophobic. Gee I wonder how his message would go down if he tried to spread that message in any British based mosque? Maybe the bBC could send one of its ace reporters to find out?

     

    The third is the promotion of a book by a former bBC presenter who tries to rewrite the violent birth of Bangladesh by turning actual events on their head and remaking the genocidal Pakistani who murdered around 1.5 million people  simply because they wanted to leave the union with West Pakistan. I quote from the bBC article:

     Dr Bose, a senior research fellow at Oxford University – and a former BBC presenter – says the Pakistani army has been “demonised” by the pro-liberation side and accused of “monstrous actions regardless of the evidence”, while Bengali people have been depicted as “victims”.

     


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    • pounce_uk says:

      So what Bose is saying is that when East Pakistan voted for independence in 1971, West Pakistan was justified in sending in its army and killing folks simply because they and not the Bangladeshi people were victims. I wonder how she gets around explaining the 10 million people who sought shelter in India, or how Pakistan lost the war when they tried to emulate the Israelis by launching a pre-emptive attack on India. A country which had looked on at the killings field next door for over 9 months in silence. Yup typical left wing bBC claptrap. Reworking the facts to make the guilty victims and victims guilty.

       

       Funny enough Sarmila Bose’s relatives on her mother side all have Pakistani names. Biased reporting, nah she worked for the bBC they always tell the truth. Maybe there’s lies the reason for the plug on her nasty little book.

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  25. George R says:

    NIGERIA.

    Islam Not BBC (INBBC) criticies a particular religion there today:

    “Nigeria’s pastors ‘as rich as oil barons'”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13763339

    But, INBBC does not criticise this religion in Nigeria today:

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    Nigeria: Boko Haram says “our jihadists have arrived in Nigeria from Somalia where they received real training on warfare from our brethren who made that country ungovernable”

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  26. George R says:

    INBBC’s Gardner on Al Qaeda’s Zawahiri.

    Gardner is tyically praising of Al Qaeda leadership.

    For example, Gardner tells us that Zawahiri is ‘highly intelligent’. Is that the only description INBBC Gardner has to make of of the Muslim mass murderer? Gardner tells us of how arch Islamic jihadist Zawahiri linked with Muslims andtheir cause in ‘Palestine’ and Kashmir.

    But Gardner does not tell of the hate Zawahiri has for non-Muslims.

    What should we think of Al Qaeda?

    Well, INBBC’s Gardner says that Zawahiri is ‘highly intelligent’ and helps Muslims; but Gardner doubts whether Zawahiri is quite as charismatic as Bin Laden! That’s more or less it!

    How Islamophilic can you get?

    (See right-hand side of following page for Gardner’s dhimmitude.)

    “Ayman al-Zawahiri appointed as al-Qaeda leader”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13788594


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  27. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Really poor segment on the value of academy schools on the News Channel just now.  The BBC is talking to the head of a successful academy school about how the academy status enabled him to improve the lives of students.  It was one against three, because he was on a video feed and both Jane Hill and the male Beeboid were challenging him, along with the guest in the studio, a bearded neo-Marxist named Alisdair Smith, from the Anti-Something or Other.

    I say it was poor because the discussion can be summed up thus:

    Academy Head:  Having academy status has enabled us to make great improvements in results, improving childrens’ lives.

    Beeboid (Jane or the other, doesn’t matter):  But did academy status enable you to be successful?

    Academy Head:  Yes, because we were able to make needed changes, etc.

    Beeboid:  But did academy status really enable you to be successful?

    Academy Head:  Yes.

    Bearded neo-Marxist:  No, people are claiming that academy status is a “magic bullet” and this is just the same privatization agenda as what they’re trying to do to the NHS.

    Academy Head:  No, that’s the wrong context.  I’m not talking about what’s good for everyone, I’m talking about what’s good for my school.  Academy status was a good thing for us.

    Beeboid:  But did academy status really, honestly, help?

    Academy Head:  Yes.

    Bearded neo-Marxist:  “But some will do very well, some will do badly, ”

    This is a condemnation?  In the mind of a neo-Merxist, yes.  Results aren’t the point, it’s the intent.

    It went on like that, but you get the idea.  At no time did either Jane or the other one challenge or even address the bearded neo-Marxist. And I’m not exaggerating.  He acted as just another challenger to the academy head, only making condemnations instead of asking attacking questions.  It really was three against one.

    The BBC agenda was clear:  any form of privatization is wrong, full stop, because of ideology.  Results aren’t important and, in fact, if you claim a positive result, we simply won’t believe you.

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  28. David Preiser (USA) says:

    More Palin Derangement Syndrome on display at the BBC:


    Republican books: What do they tell us?

    A run for America’s highest office is no longer complete without a Facebook page, campaign manager and a hefty hardback. This week, Newt Gingrich joined a crowded field of Republican authors with his latest work. So what do their books teach us, asks Tom Geoghegan?

    This is about Republican candidates for President, right?  Whom does the BBC choose?

    Romney, Gingrich (even though his staff quite en masse, he was still at the debate the other day, so I guess he still counts, barely), Paul, Pawlenty, and Sarah Palin.  Palin isn’t a candidate, BBC.

    Where’s the book from Herman Cain?  Oh, that’s right, he doesn’t count because he’s black and thinks some Muslims want to kill us.  That, and he writes books about something from which the BBC can’t glean character traits to deride:  Leadership.  Mabye he wrote another book that might prove titillating to Beeboids?  Nope: CEO of Self

    Oh, wait, I found the book the BBC will never touch, and evidence of why they make the black man sit in the back of the candidate’s bus:

    They Think You’re Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It

    Yes, I know this hit piece is supposed to be about personal stuff about the candidates.  But that’s exactly what’s wrong with it:  it’s the BBC trying to drill holes beneath the waterline with personal attacks.

    Last year’s rallying cry was “Save Gordon”, and the one for the next 18 months will be “Save The Obamessiah”.

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  29. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC has to apologize for faking yet another scene to support a story Narrative:

    BBC ‘must apologise’ over Primark documentary

    The BBC must say sorry to Primark over a scene in a Panorama documentary showing boys in a Bangalore clothing workshop, the BBC Trust says.

    The trust said it was “more likely than not” the scene, which showed the boys “testing the stitching” on Primark clothes, was “not genuine”.

    It also apologised to Primark and the audience for a “rare lapse in quality”.

    The trust stressed that programme makers had found evidence that child labour was being used.

    Yet more fakery from the BBC.  They simply don’t care about honest reporting, as long as they get their Narrative across.  The Trust “stressed” that the Narrative was correct overall, but the BBC sees that as justification for their actions.  Like the bogus Bush memos which cost four CBS News people their jobs, and cost Dan Rather his reputation and legacy, the story is “fake, but accurate”

    So now it’s a quiet apology, wrist slapped, line drawn under it, moving on.  At least this time they didn’t pay the kids to wave a gun around on screen.

    Nobody will lose their job over this, the BBC will not learn a single lesson, and they will do it again.

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  30. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Helen Boaden was on the News Channel just now saying that the BBC knows they got it wrong, but will “learn” from this.  She said that everyone trusts Panorama and the BBC because they’re so…er….trustworthy.  She’s a liar, because they did it before, got busted for it before, yet they keep doing it.  
     
    Is this a one-off, or does Panorama have form, asks Ben Beeboid.  The Beeboid explaining things didn’t answer the question and instead said that, except for the few seconds in question, the rest of the story did discover naughty business.  So I was right about the BBC’s defense:  Fake, but accurate.

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    • As I See It says:

      In a similar way Mike Tyson got it about right – save for the couple of seconds where he bit off the guy’s ear.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/8579966/BBC-to-apologise-over-faked-footage-in-Panorama-report-about-Primark.html

      ‘..poor members of the public having to seek redress from the BBC when they don’t know how the system works, who to write to by name or anything. It’s hopeless, absolutely hopeless and it does a great institution no service at all..’

      Seems genuine.

      Mind you, I kinda disagree with the notion of an ‘Ombudsman’, which seems synonymous with powerless, partial makeweight.

      Like wot we have now, only pay for.

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    • Animal says:

      They will do it again, because the BBC has form on mendacious programme-making:

       

      1    Rigged the results of a phone-in competition on the children’s programme Blue Peter.

       

      2    Upbraided by Ofcom for deceiving children about their chances of meeting the band McFly.

       

      3    Forced to make an apology after broadcasting footage, purporting to show the Queen ‘storming out’ of a photo shoot, when in fact she was walking towards it.

       

      So, Ms Boaden, were lessons not ‘learned’ from the BBC’s previous excursions into the land of the lying?

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      • Animal says:

        (The above has appeared in the wrong place.  Was in response to David Preiser’s last post on previous page).

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  31. My Site (click to edit) says:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/voluntary-sector-network/2011/jun/16/political-risks-are-not-charitable

    Shame the BBC’s ‘facilitating role’ in this was not delved into further.

    But, again, interesting how Guardian posters can express distaste when the hive presumes their unthinking support too much.

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  32. As I See It says:

    Looking forward to the post Newsnight Review Show discussing this one….

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifestyle/book/article-23961377-treason-of-the-heart-is-cheering-for-the-bad-guys.do

    ‘British anglo-phobes: sentimental devotees of foreign causes and dupes of alien regimes’.

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  33. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC News producers and Stage Performer Maitlis prove their economic ideology and ignorance just now.  There’s a fairly clever US girl (seen her a couple times now) in the studio as a talking head about economics, explaining why it might be a problem if Greece defaults on their debt.  She says it’s a problem because it might set a precedent which Ireland will follow, and then who knows who else.

    Maitlis challenges that by asking if that’s an unfair comparison because – get this – the reasons for their huge debts are different.  The BBC idea put forth is that Ireland’s problem is because of the banking sector, and Greece’s isn’t, so it’s apples and oranges and just because Greece might default doesn’t mean Ireland would.  We must make a distinction between the two because “the root cause” is different.  Seriously.

    Who makes this stuff up?  Neither country can pay off their debts, both countries having difficulty enforcing the austerity measures which will save them, and both countries are having their credit rating written off.  The “root cause” of their debt, contrary to what BBC stage performer says, is ultimately unsustainable Socialist policies.  They just have slightly different reasons for being unable to pay for it.

    Fortunately, the US analyst didn’t fall for it and just kept talking sense instead.

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  34. cjhartnett says:

    Another evening in Beebland then!
    1. Ed Balls and his plan B…tell us Tory toff ( Fallon I think)-why are you presuming to argue with Balls…first item on PM tonight.
    2. Failing primary schools will become academies apparently. Now here`s Browns old spin doctor-a quote from the NUT-and that`ll be all that you out there will need to know.
    3. Keep God out of the GPs consulting room?…Christians wouldn`t let us see what the Jesus nuts tell the doctors-and here`s the National Secular Society to tell us what they think of this!
    My BBC?…Godless Marxist pointless empty controversies that put Radio Guardian firmly on top of the dunghill that is the BBC.
    They`ve got to go!

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  35. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Haha, Ed Balls just got a really hard time from Stage Performer Maitlis over his call for the nasty Tories to lower VAT in order to boost the economy.  The Beeboids know full well it’s a non-starter because a couple pennies are a drop in the deficit ocean (and it only really helps the rich!).  What’s funny is that the only reason Balls got a hard time is because he was too stuck on his own script to notice that Maitlis was trying to help him and lead him away from this and into a real useful idea Labour could hold up against the Tories.

    Eventually, Maitlis had to actually tell him to stop it and come up with a real idea about VAT, practically spelling out a policy and asking him to simply fill in the blank, and instead he just dug up the old “Plan B is for Bankruptcy, and Cameron said don’t stop in ’92 and sterling crashed.”  He can’t offer any real ideas other than platitudes, even when handed to him on a silver platter.

    Too bad the Beeboids couldn’t help him no matter how much they wanted to.

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    • Deborah says:

      Balls was on everywhere yesterday – including the Jeremy Vine show.  And just like Maitlis dear old Jeremy was trying to help Balls expand his ideas with helpful questions.  Either Balls wasn’t listening or wasn’t capable of going beyond his script.  As Ed argued that a cut on VAT would give people more money to spend when they got back from the supermarket it was up to Jeremy to explain that food didn’t carry VAT.  Much spluttering from Balls (had he been on ‘Just a Minute’ he would have been had for hesitation if not deviation) whilst he thought up the amount of spending people make at the supermarket of VAT items (it took a while). 

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  36. David Preiser (USA) says:

    OMFG Maitlis just laughed out loud at a guy who told her that Al Qaeda is actually engaged in an international war. “What war is that,” she asked, grinning, barely stifling a giggle.

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  37. cjhartnett says:

    For those of you with lives to go to, I took the time to listen to Martha Kearneys white flag ship of  convenience called “The World At One”…think it`s where the sisters park their Petunias and Joachims so maybe it`s not exactly of the highest order. Still we deserve more!
    Here`s the dirt girls!..
    You will be pleased to hear that Dr Al ZAWAHIRI has been duly elected to serve as Al Queda head of policy in Rawalpindin Central. We don`t yet know the turn out, nor whether all those postal votes from Luton and Bradford actually got there in time.
    We can safely say that it was a “disappointing result” for all of us who would have preferred Al Queda to have joined the 21st century and used AV…this would have sent out a strong signal that they were “open for business”.

    Now-the Good Doctor is Egyptian and very clever and nice-educated and comes from a good family, with one of his earlier wives being university educated perhaps?This surely is cause for some hope for us all. Doctor-educated-good family-why he might even be living every Jewish mothers dream!
    Ah but-one thing unfortunately spoils the picture! He turns out to have come from landed,well heeled toff types-oh no…wrong class-Eton Bulington-exterminate-or more likely a “source of some regret or concern” 

    Still not`s be too quick to judge-let`s see how these first 100 days go shall we boys and girls?

    Quentins near the ball pool…for heavens sake Sarah?….The wheels on the bus go round and…

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  38. pounce_uk says:

    I see the bBC is more than happy to echo the Argentine mindset that they are victims and that the British can only be racist arrogratn bastards for not wanting to talk about the Falkland islands. 

    Note bBC traitors its the Falklands and not the f-ing Malvinas. 

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  39. dw says:

    strange propaganda/lefty wibble here:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13765820

    “Jenni Ruegg did not think twice about filling up two trolleys with groceries at the supermarket.
    But recently she could not send her children to school, because she did not have any food to put in their lunch boxes. ”
    “I try to keep my husband well fed. I will have less. I’ve been hungry, I’ve gone to bed crying because I’ve been hungry. There are bad weeks and good weeks, but I just keep going.”
    “Jenni has a lot of mouths to feed – seven children, five of them below the age of 12. But she and her husband have always worked and managed to get by. They clean offices by night, and Jenni is a school dinner lady by day.
    “We’re not benefit scroungers. We’ve always been self sufficient. We’ve worked hard and paid our bills,” said Jenni.”
    The day after she could not send her children to school, Jenni was referred to a Trussell Trust food bank and given an emergency food parcel.
    In the meantime, she’s making do: “The boys just have to have shampoo. I make sure the girls get what they need with conditioner and I have what’s left. If I have to have Fairy Liquid then so be it.”

    The reality is with seven kids they will get around £30k/year in various benefits. Whatever meagre earnings they get from working a few hours a week on minimum wage are dwarfed by their benefits entitlement. The oldest child is 19 and is quite old enough to work/claim student loan/benefits herself. It’s possible they’ve run up silly debts and have lots of unnecessary spending, but they are hardly poor, nor victims of inflation.

    Somebody might like to inform them that Tesco Value Shampoo costs 25p a litre, 1/10 of the cost of Fairy Liquid.

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  40. pounce_uk says:

    I see the luvies at the bbC are bemoaning how a load of failed asylum seekers were sent packing last night.
    Tamils deported from UK reach Sri Lanka

    Several dozen Sri Lankans deported by the UK have arrived back in Colombo on an overnight charter flight. A BBC reporter outside the airport and sources inside confirmed that their plane had touched down.

    Anybody else notice how the bBC reports how one of its sources inside the airport (As well as having a reporter inside it) reports how the plane had touched down. I could have done the same by using the net or even checking the board inside the airport.. Instead the bBC protrays a vision of oppression in which to play the victimcard for economic migrants. But instead of reporting such the bBC instead plays the emotive card:
    “One elderly woman is also among those who were asked to pack their bags.”

    Yup, according to the bBC and the like the British can only be racist bastards for not allowing these people to stay.

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  41. George R says:

    INBBC ‘NEWSNIGHT’ last night – asking, via Wark, what top Al Qaeda leader ZAWAHIRI, the Islamic jihad mass murderer is like, presents us, first up, with his SISTER, who tells us he’s nice!!!!

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    • cjhartnett says:

      Like you George I too was worried that we might get a murdering f***er of Satanic spawn to head up the Al Queda brand that HAS had a setback or two  of late.

      Shareholders like the BBC would have been worried about the transition stage we`re in…but luckily the good folks of Al Queda have gone for stability, continuity and so we need not worry our raggedy little heads until the BBC think it right for us to do so.

      All seem content that he was the correct choice-but because AV was not employed, sadly we shall never know who else made it to the selection hearings!

      Still I hope that they did count that nice little bundle of ballot papers that were posted very early, postmarked Birmingham and Leicester!
      Only then can we have confirmation that it was a free and fair election…so the BBC will be happy to go on marketing this funkiest and edgiest of brands for global reach.

      They`ve had a few blows of late-so this can only be good news to the BBC stakeholders!
      Allah Akbar!…Arabic for “Ah Bless”  I believe!

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      tells us he’s nice’

      But in a flawed but nihilistic, murder and mayhem way *DONT_KNOW* ?

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  42. cjhartnett says:

    Having listened to Sarah Montague for longer than is good for anyone, I can tell that she has a “I`ve been told to say this, but must I really?” kind of voice-normally when it is populist and goes too close to Karen Matthews territory.

    So it was today-just before 8.00 we get our “the luvvies are coming” puff for something at the Barbican or ENO…to elevate us drabs before the water cooler conference maybe?

    Only this was a peach-John Malkovich is bringing his play/opera about an Austrian serial killer( no ,not him-or Waldheim either!)-who murdered one lot of prostitutes…was feted by the liberal elite of Austria…was released early…only to kill another load of them after his books, TV shows( and reports on sex workers not being in a union, no less!).

    Was it glamorising Unterweger(Washington Post)…or populist( snifft Sarah)?…well, Malkovich will have had them choking on their croissants with his views on the death penalty-and this whole morality play of our times tells us far more about the useful idiots like the BBC and the Clarkes/Straws than a year of Panoramas or Todays!

    No mention of what the play was at the end-we had to move swiftly on ,as the blue tape was due to be put up sometime soon-Infernal Circle I think!
    If Sarah hates it-then it`s BOUND to be great!
    No doubt they`ll be banging the drum for Sutcliffe again, but at least not as long as we can remind them of Jack Unterweger…thank you Mr Malkovich!

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    • D B says:

      Perhaps criticism of the lefty love-ins that typify arts reports on the Today programme is finally hitting home. It made a nice change to hear Nicola Stanbridge interviewing someone who isn’t a dyed-in-the-wool lefty. Malkovich’s refusal to conform to the usual left-liberal outlook of so many in his profession probaby explains Montague’s description of him as “eccentric”.

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      • Wally Greeninker says:

        That Unterweger business reminded me of an incident in Norman Mailer’s career:
        “In 1980, Mailer spearheaded convicted killer Jack Abbot’s’s successful bid for parole. In 1977, Abbott had read about Mailer’s work on ‘The Executioner’s Song’ and wrote to Mailer, offering to enlighten the author about Abbott’s time behind bars and the conditions he was experiencing. Mailer, impressed, helped to publish In the Belly of the Beast, a book on life in the prison system consisting of Abbott’s letters to Mailer. Once paroled, Abbott committed a murder in New York City six weeks after his release, stabbing to death 22-year-old Richard Adan.”(wiki)

        Oddly, the BBC leaves this episode out of their obituary of Mailer.

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  43. D B says:

    In the South Park episode Smug Alert Gerald Broflovski moves his family to San Francisco so they can be surrounded by like-minded liberals. He explains to his horrified sons: “We need to be where everyone is motivated and progressive like us.”  Their smug new hybrid-driving neighbours spend their time congratulating themselves for being “progressive and ahead of the curve” and “more open-minded and grown-up than the Midwest” while deriding those “imbeciles in Texas”. They are so enamoured of their own virtue that they like nothing better than inhaling their own farts.

    Something tells me that BBC Radio Shropshire’s Jim Hawkins probably loves the smell of his own farts too:

    My timeline’s full of people doing amazing things to benefit other people … the opposite of the Daily Mail website, open in another window

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Is one not supposed to like the smell of one’s own farts?  Oh dear.  Another pleasure denied by smug liberals.

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      • D B says:

        In South Park the smug liberals go out of their way to savour their own emissions, even parping into wine glasses to enjoy the aroma.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      I know the Beeboids do it all the time, but is it really kosher to use the license fee to attack another news organization?

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:

        To be fair, a lot of other media take the BBC to task, too.

        However it is usually over substantive failures (bias, facts) and, of course, they are not public (funded) bodies.

        The unique thing about the BBC and its employees is that they have a vast brand, plus often money and scope to spray their petty prejudices around as they see fit.

        This whole ‘He said Daily Mail <snigger>’ tribal crowd pleaser meme reminds me of my time in HK back in the day.

        ‘Gweilo’ was not a compliment from the locals. But when used most expats simply embraced it as a badge of honour, usually whilst wondering what other physiological aspects of their guests were preferred by the local hotties over the locals.

        Seemed to make it go away.

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  44. cjhartnett says:

    You and Yours just now went on the “kids watching drunk parents become drunks too” story from the Joseph Rowntree Trust/Ipsos-MORI.
    BBE meets charity needing a grant-gets  surveys done in schools with 14-16 year old kids bone by marketing tools…and comes up with parents cause alcoholism! What`s not to question?
    I`m speechless at the crass generalisations and gaping holes in it all. Not that the charity hack and the liver speccialist from the BMA would see any of that. Stands to reason dunn`it guvnor?
    I`ll not bother to tell you just how crap Winifred Robinson is and was-nor what the GMC/BMA or Joseph Rowntree( teetotaller Quaker I believe?) thinks ought to be the result.
    First they came for the smokers, but I did not smoke..then they came for the drinkers…
    Passive alcoholism awareness campaign coming. Don`t open that bottle with its vapours near me. Burn the barmans apron, and get the certificate to prove you did…
    Luckily the BBC turn me to drink, so can I sue them?

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    • D B says:

      The Today programme devoted three segments to the JRT report between 6.30 and 8am (plus mentions in every half-hourly bulletin). This might be a record for a lobby group pushing something unrelated to climate change. 

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        But doesn’t the belching of alcoholics contribute to greenhouse gases? Or is it their red noses heating up the planet?

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  45. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The highly-tuned, nuanced brain of The Obamessiah thinks that ATM machines cost jobs.


    Earlier in the week, at a jobs council meeting, the president was called out for saying that “shovel-ready projects’ weren’t quite as shovel-ready as he thought. Then later, in an interview with NBC News, Obama suggested that innovation and technology — like job-stealing ATMs — were reasons why the employment rate was not rebounding as quickly as he had hoped.

    “There’s some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers,” Obama said after being asked about a report that shows businesses were spending 2 percent more on employees since the recession officially ended, but 26 percent more on equipment .

    “You see it when you go to a bank and … you use an ATM, you don’t go to a bank teller. Or you go to the airport, and you’re using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate,” the president said.

    Madness.  This means that every time you bag your own groceries, it costs someone else a job.  Every time you pump your own gas, that’s someone’s job you’ve taken out of the economy.  Every time you buy a drink or piece of candy from a vending machine, you’re costing someone a job.  Every time you dial someone directly on the telephone instead of going through a human exchange operator and asking her to connect you to BAY 1212, you’ve removed a job from the economy.

    He’s not talking about jobs that existed fifty years ago but were elminated then out of efficiency, mind.  He thinks that we should have hundreds of thousands of bank tellers, plus untold thousands of grocery baggers and gas station attenda and hundreds of thousands of telephone exchange operators to keep up with modern population demands.  And that it’s all affordable by greedy, miserly corporations.

    ATM industry not happy about Obama comments

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  46. David Preiser (USA) says:

    To the last, the BBC censors the most important factor of Weinergate.  They report that the now ex-Congressman stepped down over an “internet sex scandal”, and say that he lied about doing it.  The BBC even admits that Weiner claimed his account was hacked.  But that’s only part of the lie he told which cost him his political career.

    What the BBC has never told you is that the main problem wasn’t just that Weiner lied, but the content of the lies he told.  Claiming that someone hacked his account is accusing someone of the federal crime of impersonating a Congressman.  Since the name of the blogger who initially started all this by posting the first photo was out there from the start, this is about a Congressman accusing someone specifically of a federal crime.  But that’s not the worst part.

    The worst part is that, for at least a week, Weiner accused online media mogul Andrew Breitbart – a *gasp* conservative – of abetting that crime by pushing the scandal in the media.  At least he ended up apologizing for it. The BBC initally called Breitbart a “conservative provacateur” before wiser News Online heads prevailed and stealth-edited that out.  So they know all about what happened there, yet censored the key points which actually are what cost Weiner his career.

    If he hadn’t spent so much energy blaming Breitbart and accusing him of conspiring in a federal crime, this wouldn’t be such a disgrace.  Most of the US media covered for Weiner, almost as much as the BBC did (in fact, they censored all news of the scandal until Weiner admitted it).  Even St. Jon Stewart beclowned himself by defending Weiner on his show.  The BBC censored all news of their fellow travelers being burned as well.

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  47. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Oh, dear, the Netroots Nation progressives are disappointed and frustrated with the black President.  Are they racists?

    Check out their website, notice the token black man at the top, and then notice all the Union logos.  Can’t wait for Mardell or waltz in and explain it away.  Or censor all news of it.

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  48. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Hey, credit where due, and a sentence I never expected to write:  Mark Mardell got something right.  He says he gets the sense that Gingrich has basically given up the dream to be President as instead using his current appearances as opportunities to apply for a job with the eventual candidate.  That sounds about right to me, as Gingrich was never going to be a viable candidate due to his personality and personal failures (and we all knew the game was up when his staff quite en masse), but would make a very good policy wonk for someone better. 
     
    I can’t believe I just agreed with Mardell.  But there it is, Broken clocks, etc., I guess.

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  49. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Here are a couple of recent polls the BBC won’t be telling you about:

    Romney, Bachmann, Cain Lead The Pack Among GOP Primary Voters

    No surprise about Romney, of course.  He basically has a head start from last time anyway.  But Bachmann and Cain are second and third.  Two people with strong support from the Tea Party movement.  Bachmann has already had a relatively high profile among those living outside the Beltway/WaPo/HuffPo bubble, so again, no surprise.  Yet all you know about Cain so far is that he said something the Beeboids don’t approve of about Mohammedans and Shariah Law.  Mardell said that would kill his chances.

    The other poll is much, much worse for the BBC:

    2012 Voter Preferences for Obama, “Republican” Remain Close


    Forty-four percent of registered voters say they are more likely to vote for “the Republican Party’s candidate” and 39% for Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election, according to Gallup’s June update. The current five-percentage-point edge for the generic Republican is not a statistically significant lead, and neither side has held a meaningful lead at any point thus far in 2011.

    In other words, “Anybody but Him” has the edge.  Silence from the BBC.  Instead, they try to belittle the Republican candidates by calling them the “Seven Dwarves”.

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  50. The Cattle Prod of Destiny says:

    What is it with the BBC and the Olympics?

    The ticket sales have been massively over subscribed (meaning they are way more peole wanting to attend than tickets) but this is somehow a bad thing that the Olympics Committee just refuse to apologise for, the rotters.

    Excuse me?  They can sell the tickets 5 times over but they have somehow failed in the eyes of the BBC.

    Could it be that the BBC want it to fail and can’t stand the fact that it is ain’t gonna?

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