NEW OPEN THREAD….


And so a new week dawns and a whole new set of BBC bias needs examined. Here you go, the floor is yours, have you something to say?

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  1. Phil says:

    I received today the e-mail below from the BBC. I nearly fell off my chair!:

    Dear Mr Henrick

    Thanks for your further email regarding ‘7 Day Sunday’ on Radio 5 live broadcast on 17 November 2010.

    First of all, we sincerely apologise that we are responding so late to your response to our previous reply. The address you e-mailed should have redirected you to our webform on the BBC Complaints website, but did not and we apologise if you have made further attempts to contact us.

    I’m sorry if you were dissatisfied with the initial response; as such we forwarded your complaint to Paul Blakeley, Network Manager for BBC Radio 5 live & 5 live sports extra who replies as follows:

    “As a result of your email I have listened back to the remarks about ‘over aggressive cuts’ made by Andy Zaltsman. 7 Day Sunday is a comedy programme. The programme achieves balance by taking a similar satirical swipe at all of the political parties and their policies. However, regardless of the light hearted nature of the output and balance across the show, I agree with you that in this individual section of the programme we did not achieve the balance that we aim to. We regularly review the output with the programme team and I will raise this matter with them.

    I do hope that despite your complaint you continue to listen to and enjoy BBC Radio 5 live.”

    Thanks again for taking the time to contact the BBC.

    Yours Sincerely

    Andrew Martin
    Complaints Advisor
    BBC Complaints
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

    That’s fine, but where does it say what the BBC plans to do about this bias? What actions are planned? This is not a solution to my complaint, it’s merely designed to fob me off. No one holds this left-wing organisation to account, least of all the wet Director General. Only mass witholding of the tele tax will change things

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      “We regularly review the output with the programme team”

      Wonder what the results of the review are.  That it’s not biased enough?  Perhaps the licence payers should be allowed to know.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      it’s merely designed to fob me off’

      You are correct in this, and your concluding estimation of the only recourse.

      I don’t know how many are masochistic enough to attempt to engage with the risible, free-speech laughable, democracy-denying BBC blog network, specially since its ‘improvement’, but it seems they are now on a retroactive wholesale purge of any dissent from the last week, with impure thoughts being deleted left, left and and left of centre.

      Because… they can.

      I think I may have got to tipping point:

      Just had back an email from you…

      On 16 May 2011, at 11:54, Central Communities Team wrote:
      If you want us to consider an appeal against a moderation decision,

      Fairly clearly, I did. But in case this is simply yet further semantic distracting shenanigans, I guess I am compelled to reply.

      your appeal must satisfy the following conditions:
      * You must make your appeal within 30 days of the moderation decision.It was, and is, here below [specific removed], again.
      * Complaints about specific moderation decisions will only be accepted from the user who is subject to that moderation decisionThat being me.
      * Complainants must include post numbers or moderation reference numbers, or include a link to the relevant content, to enable the original content and moderation history of the item to be traced.  If your appeal relates to a removed comment, you should find a link to the removed content in your moderation email.All necessary, and/or possible below. Via your own system’s grid.

      * Complaints should be clear and concise and not exceed more than 1000 words. Complaints must concern a matter of substance, not be vexatious or trivial, and there must be sufficient evidence to suggest that an appeal against a moderation decision has a reasonable prospect of success.As catch-all as the rest of the more than vexatious system being imposed. My complaint, as clearly and concise as I can make it, is repeated below.

      I also note that there is an ongoing wholesale purge of free speech currently underway across the BBC blog network, using other catch alls to suppress or delete legitimate comment retroactively. This is in breach of the charter and any contract of service that exists between the national broadcaster and me as a licence fee payer.

      The legitimate consequences are yours to cope with.

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      • Grant says:

        My site,
        Notice how the BBC make it so difficult to complain and lay down the rules like the Fascists they are.  They are the pits.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        “Complaints must concern a matter of substance, not be vexatious or trivial, and there must be sufficient evidence to suggest that an appeal against a moderation decision has a reasonable prospect of success”

        In other words, we’ll decide if we’ll let you appeal our decision.  And if you don’t like it, you can fuck off.

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    • Grant says:

      Phil,
      I admire your efforts but, of course, it won’t make a damn bit of difference.

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      • Phil says:

        Thanks Grant – that’s why I made the point that the only way to change things is to withhold the tele tax en masse. The BBC won’t change, this government won’t take on its liberal bias so direct action is the only solution.

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  2. cjhartnett says:

    Oh dear-smug alert at 4pm today on Radio4.
    The class warriors on The Food Programme would like to have something more revolutionary to offer than their thoughts on balsamic vinegar, but Silvio and Schengen have been bagged for the Italian jobs for this month.Sicily last month  for Sheila Dillon though, so Humph and his olive groves  are due soon I`m sure!

    So it is that we shall be hearing from Modena(Pavarottis manor) about the raging controversy in Islington about the sourcing of said condiment!
    No other conversation at the salons dearie!

    Wonder if the Israelis might see themselves round to offering balsamic and a VIP pass at holiday time?…we might yet hear about what the Gaza conflict may yet do to the price of fair trade hummous if they did! Until then-back to Jeremy!

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  3. Natsman says:

    Basically they are saying “Yes, we grudgingly concede that you may just possibly have a point – you weren’t supposed to notice, but we may be more careful in future to cover our tracks, otherwise the show goes on, so sod off, you whingeing git – we don’t like your sort bothering us and criticising our programmes”.

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  4. Lloyd says:

    Kunesberg on News 24 earlier, with a piece regarding the Huhne saga. Spent most of the time talking about what Huhne didn’t say and speculating as to what he might do at the end of the week. Piss poor journalism.

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    • Grant says:

      Lloyd,
      It is so simple really, either Huhne is lying or his current wife is lying. I know who I believe. Also, the taped phone calls point the finger directly at Huhne. Let’s hope we get rid of that Global Warming maniac. Mind you, Dave will probably just replace him with another nutter.

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  5. cjhartnett says:

    The World at One-as seen through Martha Kearneys rainbow tinted lenses.
    The BBC sent one Michael Buchanan on a moonlight walk in Jeddah in order to ask “ordinary Saudis” that were having picnics at that time of night..as you do!
    Michael was clearly armed with blue plaques as he followed the Bin Laden pilgrimage. Shot the breeze with a few of his old chums and the like.
    Turns out that the good people of Jeddah thought his human rights were infringed by the Americans. Turns out too that the Minister of the Interior( a General!) would go along with that too!
    Who better to ask about the rule of law, about human rights than those pliant inclusive multicultural dreamers there in Saudi?
    Yet no one laughed. No doubt poor Petras shrine in the Blue Peter Garden could be lost to the Osama Peace Pagoda soon!

    We also got Browns shrill baglady telling us about DSK as we must learn to call him…no mention of Railtrack though funnily enough..she`s a Baroness now you know!

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  6. Span Ows says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13409698

    Headline: “Tory peer Lord Hanningfield on trial over expenses

    First paragraph: “A Tory peer has gone on trial accused of fiddling his parliamentary expenses.

    UK Politics main page link: “Conservative peer and ex-council leader Lord Hanningfield is due to go on trial accused of fiddling his parliamentary expenses”

    Any volunteers wiiling to try to find similar edting by the BBC for the multiple Labour offenders in the last few months?…don’t bother, you’d be wasting your time.

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    • Lloyd says:

      The conservatives, by their inaction, allow it to happen, so I guess they deserve it.

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  7. My Site (click to edit) says:

    robbiesharp Rob Sharp  by TheIndyNewsRichard Bacon’s show coming to our offices today. more info here:http://ind.pn/irTyxe
    Guessing that, for balance, and sensibly, they are starting at the bottom of the ABC tree and will be working up to the Telegraph, SUN & Mail?

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  8. Lloyd says:

    There’s something not quite right with the BBC’s reporting of the arrest of Dominique Strauss-Kahn. I’m starting to get the impression that they are not happy about it. The IMF give money away don’t you know?

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    • Phil says:

      And Strauss-Khan is a socialist so he must be innocent. It’s all the fault of the evil capitalists in America, indeed it must be driven by the evil Murdoch media empire. Dominique is nice & cuddly, he’s a liberal, very pro-Euro. Basically it’s all a big mistake and clearly the woman is a fantasist

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      • Cassandra King says:

        A socialist heading an organisation that gives money to failed socialist regimes, its a kind of giant subsidy and baliout for the inevitable collpase of socialist regimes.

        How many right wing regimes have needed the IMF compared to left wing regimes? Socialist policies fail, when the money runs out and it always runs out then there is a comunal pot to siphon yet more money and this cash is usually paid by right wing regimes.

        Whats not to love for the BBC? A get out of jail free(for a bit)card and free cash, you can bet the farm that this fund would be closed down if right wing regimes came asking for money instead of paying it in. On planet beeboid the right pays and the left is entitled to it.

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  9. Roland Deschain says:

    It gets more interesting.  Guido has found out that Huhne’s wife could not have been the one who was speeding in Essex that day.

    Michael Crick is on the case, pretending he hasn’t read Guido’s blog.  Will he side with Huhne, as he is an ecoloon and therefore good, or against Huhne as he is in coalition with the Tories and therefore bad?  Decisions, decisions.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      pretending he hasn’t read Guido’s blog’

      Oddly (or not), he has decided that the few blog posters who nailed him don’t count for a hill of beans when he has access to a £4b propaganda machine than can get a bit of spin the length of the land while actualite is still slipping on her Ugg boots.

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    • Grant says:

      Roland,
      Ooooh, what if Huhne was with a woman not his wife ?  This is getting tasty !!

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    • Grant says:

      What I would give to be inside the mind of Michael Prick.  Actually, take that back. Which reminds me, I haven’t been on to his blog to wind him up for a couple of weeks. Wondered why I was feeling a little out of sorts.
      Bad week already again for the BBC again. Huhne and Strauss-Kahn.  Can the BBC survive these setbacks ?

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  10. Liquid says:

    Tellme this,  we are now often told that things are tough and the western world is changing in a big way..and we’d better get used to it.
    Seems like everything has to change, be re-examined etc – but not, it seems, the BBC.

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  11. Deborah says:

    I am beginning to realise that the BBC is like Labour Councils – tell everybody that you are putting right years of misrule and then carry on as you are.

    We were told that the BBC realised the errors of its ways and was not sending seniour anchor people (you see I too can be politically correct) and they send Michel Hussein to Pakistan to report on the death of Osama.  I presume it gave her chance to see her friends and relations because the report was very short.

    Then this weekend I read that the BBC are paying Henman £200,000 for a fortnight’s work (commenting on Wimbledon).  Would he be anywhere else for these 2 weeks and is he a good commentator?

    Say what you think the ‘people’ want to hear and then carry on as usual. That’s the BBC.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      Would he be anywhere else for these 2 weeks and is he a good commentator?

      I believe this was answered (most emphatically!) in a link that I quoted from elsewhere on this blog yesterday. I am not sure I could find it but it is out there somewhere! (Maybe in the last couple of pages of the previous open thread)

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    • Grant says:

      Deborah,
      But , surely  “lessons have been learned”  ?

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    • pounce_uk says:

      So the bBC will be getting a huge Henman bill as he reports from Henman Hill.

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  12. Techno says:

    His BBC profile is very sympathetic:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13405268

    He’s done a few things wrong but he was always innocent of the charges, overall he is a good guy.  Lots of gushing quotes about what a “good operator” he is.

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  13. flexdream says:

    Ths morning on the Today programme, an interview by Jonathan Webb with Agnes Poiriet (described as French journalist, not as a politician let alone a Socialist)

     

    AP – ‘We might as well get through to the second round of the French presidential elections Marianne Le Pen against Nicolas Sarkozy, imagine the nightmare for any French citizen’

     

    JW’  – Mmmm

     

    A ‘Nightmare’ to have a choice including the current French President because there is no credible Socialist candidate? Hardly, unless you are a Strauss-Khan supporter. Maybe we should be told? Though it wasn’t said, this must be the same Agnes Poiriet who writes a blog for the Guardian. (I had to guess the spelling of her name so can’t be sure).

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  14. jarwill101 says:

    The BBC News & Current Affairs Dept is a hideously expensive, subsidised Puppet Theatre. I’ve been slow to cotton onto this, but got there in the end. The thing about puppets, in general, is that they say what the manipulators want them to say – they are rarely rebellious. None of mine ever were. Sometimes the Beeboid puppets are permitted to have guest puppets, little friends drafted in to pep up the ‘chosen narrative’, but they all end up in total agreement. Which is nice – unless you happen to be an observant adult living in the real world, who can no longer stomach the Corporation’s point blank refusal to deal with contentious issues in an even-handed manner. Time to cut a lot of strings.

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    • Techno says:

      After months of prevaricating I cancelled the Direct Debit for my TV Licence yesterday.  I have decided that the time has come to start evading the TV Licence inspector.

      I was getting very resentful about it and it has been a great load off my mind.  I feel much better already.  Shows to me how oppressive it is.

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      • ltwf1964 says:

        you don’t have to evade them

        they have as much right to be on your property as the local butcher

        ie-zero

        write to capita-aka tv licensing-and revoke their implied right of access to your proerty

        if the idiots show up,show them the road or ring the police and tell them there is going to be a breach of the peace due to a trespass on your property

        watch them scarper

        there’s loads on youtube and freeman on the land forums about this with very funny videos accompanying it

        they get their day in court by conning people into signing a confession thatthey have been watching tv without a licence

        no confession,no luck I’m afraid

        and as for the laugh that is tv detector vans……well that is the biggest con of all…..are they for real? LMAO

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        • ltwf1964 says:

          oh and by the way

          you do not “need” a licence to own a tv

          only if its used to watch tv programmes as they are broadcast

          it does not cover use for watching recorded material,dvd’s or games consoles

          FACT

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:

        Kudos. I want to, and should. But the dead hand of a ‘system’ that permits so much hypocrisy not only go unpunished, but seems more to reward the venal over the noble has kept me in line.

        And I have a list of personal examples that would make a good contract law barrister weep with joy.

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        • john says:

          It depends on your resolve.

          Do you want to tell them to f*ck off, or hide behind the curtains ?

          Well if you believe there is a BBC TV detector van roaming around the streets then I will sell you a bridge.

          ITWF1964 is correct.
          Take your chances, watch TV live and your liable, or don’t and your not.

          Lord knows I’ve receive death threats sent to me from the imbeciles in Bristol every couple of weeks.
          However, as a good person, upon reading I recycle their “Sharia prerequisite “into the bin, for I know they have no legal right into my property without a warrant.

          Cuts Cuts 2011 : Police – Savings  – Magistrates

          What as trouble maker will happen ?
          What  will my neighbours think of me ?

          Actually nothing will happen at all.

          Here’s an idea : Don’t pay your TV Licence but continue to contribute to sites as unique as this and wink at your neighbour over the garden fence.

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          • Techno says:

            It is easy in my flat to just not answer the door, which I do already for many people.  Jehovah’s Witnesses, census takers…

            I will continue to watch the BBC, and get a lovely warm feeling that thank God I’m not paying for it anymore.

            If they don’t like it, well, we’re all switching over to digital soon anyway so they could restrict reception to people who pay if they want to.  I already get the BBC on my Sky subscription anyway so they could collect it that way.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Unfortunately it is Mrs D who is likely to have to deal with the TV Licence brigade if I stop paying the licence.  And, dearly though I love her, she is rather too likely to blurt out something or sign something without realising the consequences.

        So I’m afraid the direct debit will have to stay in place.

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        • ltwf1964 says:

          that is what capita rely on

          fear,intimidation and people’s ignorance of their rights

          it’s like debt collection agencies….people are genuinely of the opinion that those scum actually have legal powers!!

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  15. Grant says:

    Span,
    Yes, if you only listened to the BBC , you would think the Tories were the worst offenders. In fact it is Labour by about 3 to 1.  Lib Dems worse than the Tories also.

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  16. John Horne Tooke says:

    Radio5 Lite brimming with impartiality. The Government to enshrine the Army Covenant into law. Two people respond, one a squaddy who was injured understandably a bit dubious. Then a spokeswoman for some Army families charity “anything is welcome but..”. Peter Allen repeats we will have to wait and see what this is meant to acheive. You know what, I thought this was going to be a queue for an interview with someone who knows what the bill is supposed to acheive, but no that is the end, full stop, fin. The impression left =  its all gas and wind and nothing will come of it.

    Then our expert security coraspondant is “quized” on the new “coded threat” to the UK from “dissadent republicans”. Can you explain what is meant by a coded threat” says our ace reporter Allen. “Its when the disadents telehone Scotland Yard with just one word, could be ‘Winston’ or ‘Trafalger'” opines the security “expert”

    Would the IRA really use the code words “Winston” (Churchill) or “Trafalger” (..a Great British victory against the French and Spanish). Pull the other one.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      😀   😀

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    • Gerald says:

      Heard the threat being discussed on the Radio.

      Apparently it is a “terrorist” threat, and there was me thinking that was a banned word for beeboids. Then I realised that the threat is of Irish origin and the the Irish aren’t “militants” so it was an acceptable use of the word , I presume.

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      • Millie Tant says:

        Yes, the Beeboids have always called them Irish terrorists.  It’s only  foreigners who get the more benign sounding moniker of militants. Somehow, in Beeboidland they merit special consideration, not to say reverence.  Maybe they’re scared of foreigners. Heh.

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  17. Grant says:

    Lloyd,
    R4 PM  with Eddie Mair gave updates almost by the minute. The BBC are very unhappy and keep emphasising that EU “leaders” are worried this will affect the Greece/Portugal bail-out.
    Who gives a damn about some chambermaid who may be traumatised for life.
    Personally, I hope the fat, wealthy , socialist, scumbag gets 20 years in US chokey where he can discuss economics with his fellow inmates, some of whom, hopefully, will not be quite as “intellectual” as him.

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    • Grant says:

      Wonderful that he has been refused bail even at $1m dollars, because the Judge reckons he will do a runner. Well done Yankees, sock it to him !

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      • Grant says:

        And, for good measure, stick his EU passport where the sun doesn’t shine !

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  18. The Cattle Prod of Destiny says:

    I’ve been laughing so hard over this IMF chap today that I believe I will need stitches (or at least new underwear).

    The BBC really don’t know how to play this do they?  On minute it’s all smear campaign and what a cuddly chap he is really and the next they remember their constant calls to only listen to the woman in rape cases.

    Oh course in the end, as with their love affair with the Mad Mullahs, wimmins rights will be sacrificed on the alter of Socialism.

    Still it’s fun to watch them squirm! 😀

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  19. Cassandra King says:

    I have to say that I cheered the beak when she refused bail to the rapist(alleged) DSK. Million bucksters bail? Chump change for that dude, with his millions from payoffs and backhanders and graft he could probably sign a cheque in the dock for that. I hope the courts go through his accounts with a fine tooth comb, I would love to see how much in dirty cash this rapist(alleged) has been getting.

    He is a socialist so I hate him from the get go, he represents a political philosophy that I find grotesque, hypocritical and disastrous. A supporter of a failed currency, a fanatical integrationist and worst of all a friend of McMental and that alone places him one rung below Hitler in my book.

    Have to say though and it burns my toast to say it but so far the BBC coverage has been kinda fair and passably comprehensive, yes they seem somewhat upset that a socialista now has no chance of beating that poisonous little Napoleon Sarkozy but on the whole I would have to give them a passing grade b-.

    Sorry for the Americanese, just been talking to some yankee friends and it rubs off on me 😀 if I visit for just one week stateside then people cannot believe I am A Limey (apart from the teeth of course).

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    • Grant says:

      Cassie,
      Glad you pointed out these are only allegations. I have been jumping the gun a bit in my earlier posts ! I am sure there will be an innocent explanation.  Maybe mistaken identity ?

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  20. Animal says:

    A socialist who was staying in a $3,000-a-night hotel suite.  

    The usual arch hypocrisy of the left.

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  21. As I See It says:

    Is it just me or has BBC leftist propaganda been put into overdrive since the AV fiasco?

    The latest pro-Labour, pro-big state, license funded party politcal broadcast: 

    – The Street That Cut Everything.

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    • Daniel Smith says:

      That’s one of the most outrageous programmes I’ve seen in a while. Purporting to be an “experiment” it was an obvious set-up from the start with an unrealistic premise (what sane person is proposing to cut street lighting for instance) and undercover of darkness, send in fly-tippers, vandals and yobbos. Its great to see the BBC use its license fee to promote criminality (but only for itself, mind you, the street had to adhere to the letter of the law).

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      The Telegraf jumped the gun a bit, but considering it was via a puff promo piece by the ‘show’ lead, it seemed a bit rich that the few defenders were bleating that no critique of clearly outlined disconnects was justified as it had yet to be aired.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8501690/Nick-Robinson-How-I-gave-power-to-the-people.html

      Now that distraction is out of the way, it will be interesting to see how the reality of the reality is viewed.

      And how the BBC deals with another less than positive public feedback to their misuse of unique funding.

      A bit like this, I’d hazard…

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/05/our_next_step_in_news_blogging.html

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  22. cjhartnett says:

    The good old USA have managed to upset the BBC liberal elite twice now in the last few weeks. God bless them!

    To shoot one of their pin up boys was one thing,but to handcuff the saviour of the whole banking system as if he was…well a rape suspect!…well “sacre bleu”!
    The maid picked a bad time to be assualted apparently…no time sice 2008 would have been any better!

    No mention of DSKs dodgy form with “warnings ” for previous at the IMF itself, so clearly lessons have not yet be learned…but they will be! Prescott will be running a wankshop-workshop sorry!

    All equal before the law-One nation under God? Didn`t WE used to agree with that until that nice Tony Blair came up with some rewriting?

    Yet again-thank God for the USA.

    Great to see the BBC squirm-womens rights only go so far,then its boys will be boys!
    No doubt-like Baroness Scotlands help or the bloke up against Ali Desai…the media will be looking for buckets of mud to throw at the jumped up plebs that dare bring in the law against the powerful!
    Being a fat seedball only gave Prescott another funding stream-the USA are right to keep him so he doesn`t use our EU laws to protect himself!
    Jon Snow already booking his flight to the Sofitel,once he`s done his piece on global warming!
    Segolene Royal already gargling in the wings…so seven more years of Sarko! The BBC will be pleased!

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    • Grant says:

      Newsnight just had some Froggie girl from Cannes saying Sarkozy versus Marine Le Pen would be a nightmare scenario or words to that effect. So guess she might be a socialist.
      Personally, I am surprised the BBC haven’t blamed the Jews, yet.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        In fairness, there were several on the 10 O’Clock News saying they knew he was like this but couldn’t report it under French law.

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        • Grant says:

          Roland,
          Yes, fair enough. 
          A lot of the Froggies are saying it is humiliating to see DSK on camera, in handcuffs etc.  I think it is because the French have such complex hierarchies and snobberies, they can’t cope with a society which is relatively egalitarian like the US. DSK is just being treated the same as any other suspect. The Frogs think he should have special treatment because he is part of the ruling elite.
          Give me the Yanks over French hypocrisy anyday !
          Am I racist ?  You bet  !!!

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          • Barry says:

            I don’t recall seeing Paris Hilton in handcuffs. America has its own hierarchies and snobberies.

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            • Grant says:

              Barry,
              OK, no doubt fair point. But I still prefer the Yanks over the Frogs any day. As I say, I am racist.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              Can’t quite see the handcuffs, but there is a photo here of Hilton in the back of a police car after she was arrested on the Vegas strip for cocaine possession.  Not quite elite treatment, as she was arrested in front of a large crowd, many of whom were apparently fans.

              Oh, and she wasn’t accused of sexual assault.  Big difference in the crime, yet she was still shoved in the back of a police car in front of adoring fans.  No double standards in this case.

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              • Barry says:

                “Oh, and she wasn’t accused of sexual assault.  Big difference in the crime,”

                Different crime, true. She was just unlucky – on numerous occasions.

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      • Buggy says:

        Well DSK IS a jew isn’t he ?  Oh, what a nassssty dilemma for the Beeboidssss, preciousssss ! Oh yessss !

        <Gollum, Gollum !>

        😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

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        • Grant says:

          Buggy,
          Exactly, that was what I was getting at !  This is just another example,  that if you put yourself in the perverted mindset of Beeboids, full of self-contradictions, you end up getting your knickers in a twist, so to speak.

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      • Craig says:

        Grant, that was Agnes Poirier again – the same one Flexdream mentioned earlier on the thread, who also appeared on yesterday’s Today.  
         
        This again shows the ridiculously small talent pool the BBC fishes in. Whenever there’s a French political story, Newsnight wheels out either Agnes (who also writes for the Guardian) or the ranting Marc Roche (who writes for Le Monde, the French equivalent of the Guardian). both firmly on the Left and both strong critics of Sarkozy. They’re the only two French regulars on Gavin Esler’s left-liberal-lovefest Dateline as well.  
         
        There must be dozens, maybe even hundreds of English-speaking French journalists available for the BBC to interview, so why is it so often just the same two who hog all the invites?

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        • My Site (click to edit) says:

          There must be dozens, maybe even hundreds of English-speaking French journalists available for the BBC to interview, so why is it so often just the same two who hog all the invites?’

          😉

          ‘Newsnight wheels out either Agnes (who also writes for the Guardian) or the ranting Marc Roche (who writes for Le Monde, the French equivalent of the Guardian)’

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        • Grant says:

          Craig,
          As usual, your impeccable research is more thorough than mine !  What you say doesn’t surprise me in the least and I don’t suppose there are any “right-wing” journalists in France to be interviewed.
           But, why journalists ? Their opinions are no more relevant than yours or mine.
          Imagine if it had been Sarkozy instead of DSK  !

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      • Natsman says:

        Grant:  “…I am surprised the BBC haven’t blamed the Jews…”

        …or climate change…

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  23. Beeboidal says:

    – The Street That Cut Everything.

    I’ve been watching that but I missed the start. Am I right in thinking that the Beeb is pretending that Council Tax pays for all council services? In reality, Council Tax only accounts for 20-25% of a council’s spending, with central government grant covering the rest.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I must have missed the earlier programme “The Street That Pissed All Its Money Up The Wall And Found It Had None Left To Spend“.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Am I right in thinking that the Beeb is pretending’

      In my happy kidhood it was called ‘make believe’.

      Our national broadcaster calls it ‘reporting’.

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  24. Jon S says:

    of course it helps that the street is a multi cultural, multi sexual and multi political street

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    • Buggy says:

      Did you see the first part of Feargal The Emoter’s History Of Ireland ?

      After outlining how Dublin was founded by The Vikings, we were informed that it rapidly became THE major trading centre for Ireland, and that traders came from all over the place for their slavery etc needs.

      Fergal (to tame academic): “There were people from all over Europe coming here [to trade] ?

      Tame Academic: Yes that’s right, from all over Europe.

      Cue Chinese, various Africans etc to illustrate “from all over Europe in the Dark Ages”. Such a shocka.

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  25. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC, Bent Police Officers and the law.
    Ali Dizaei hopes to return to police after appeal
    Former Metropolitan Police commander Ali Dizaei has said he hopes to return to the force one day after winning an appeal against charges of misconduct and corruption.Mr Dizaei, 48, was freed after 15 months in jail and now faces a retrial.He was accused of making threats, assault, false arrest and faking evidence against Waad al-Baghdadi, over a money dispute.Mr Dizaei said he had left prison “with my integrity completely intact”.He was let out of Leyhill open prison on Monday after Lord Justice Hughes and two other judges said the Court of Appeal had been “driven to the conclusion” that his conviction “cannot be regarded as safe”
    ‘Faith in God
    He said he was assaulted on a number of occasions and it was his faith in God and faith in his innocence that assisted him to go through “what I can best describe as hell”.
     
    So reading the above, do you get the impression that Ali Dizaei is an innocent man, that he only survived in an open prison due to his faith in god. (left out the fact that bent coppers are kept away from the general prison  population and usually are kept with the paedophiles) and that he hopes to get back in the force. (Something the bBC leads with)

    What the bBC doesn’t make clear is that Ali Dizaei wasn’t released because he is an innocent man, rather he was released because the evidence against him was no longer valid due to the person who gave it was found guilty of benefit fraud. (£18,000 worth) in fact the judges who released Ali had this to say (Something the bBC didn’t)
    “The judges said the officer once tipped to be a possible chief constable, should face a fresh hearing over the criminal charges, finding there was “a good deal of evidence” to support a prosecution, independent of the discredited main witness. Dizaei was granted bail.”
    Then there’s the Scotland yard bit. Yeah right He knows and Scotland yard knows he will never get back in. So why is he saying it and why is the bBC repeating it. Could it be he is after a pay off. (Didn’t he get one a few years ago)
    But anyway nice to see the bBC pointing out his faith in God (I wonder which god that would be?) kept him safe.
    The bBC, Bent Police Officers and the law.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      There is only one God that the BBc is scared stiff of, and its not mine. How can it be that the religion that causes the most panic among the general populace and scares beeboids into submission is described as the “Religion of Peace”. Why is there not a massive queue of pacifists eager to join? Because it is the exact opposite – the closest paralell is in 1984. “War is Peace”

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      • Grant says:

        JHT,
        I agree with you. 
        Dhimmis, including Beeboids, appease muslims out of fear and because they are too ignorant to know how to deal with the threat.
        They also make the mistake of thinking all muslims are the same, instead of pursuing a “divide and rule” strategy.
        As I say , it stems from a deep ignorance of the history of Islam and its current practice in the World today and a reliance on the opinions of extremist Islamic agitators who have their own agenda.
        Sadly, some of the kneejerk opponents of all muslims display the same ignorance.
        The problem will not go away unless it is dealt with a little more intelligently. I see no signs of that. The weakness and stupidity of most western “leaders” will result in an inevitable conclusion.
        Sorry to be so pessimistic.

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  26. Gerald says:

    I’m sure I heard him described as a “chaud lapin” on The World at One. Perhaps the chamber maid didn’t find his irrestible Gallic charm so irresistable!

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    • Gerald says:

      Forgot to add on that basis he would have been an obvious French Presidential candidate.

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    • Grant says:

      Gerald,
      I think one of his French lady victims described his “advances” as being like a “Chimpanzee”.  Not being very familiar with Chimps, I’ll take her word for it.

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  27. john says:

    West Ham have just made a dog’s dinner of their celebration of failure by refusing to have anything to do with the paying public.

    Can the the BBC be far behind ?

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  28. NotaSheep says:

    Well done on getting even that admission ‘ I agree with you that in this individual section of the programme we did not achieve the balance that we aim to.’. More than I ever have. Mind you I have a few complaints still to be replied to properly. One I think is coming up for a year old!

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  29. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC, innocent cleaners, that plot to kill the pope and half the story.
    ‘Pope plot’ men not involved in terrorism
    The government’s terror laws watchdog says six men arrested during Pope Benedict’s UK visit last September were never involved in a plot. David Anderson QC said police acted appropriately and the arrests were partly prompted by mistaken identity. The six Westminster street cleaners were seized amid fears they wanted to attack the Pope mobile. The men were released without charge amid reports that a canteen joke had been misunderstood…. During interviews, all six men denied that a “plot conversation” had ever taken place. Very quickly, said Mr Anderson, it became clear that the investigation was “going nowhere”. “Each of the subjects answered the questions put to him, denying all knowledge of any plot against the Pope, of explosives, of terrorism or of associates with such knowledge or tendencies,” said Mr Anderson. “Indeed the majority of them denied any knowledge of a conversation involving the Pope, save along the lines that it was good they could earn more money because of his visit.”

    Well reading the above do you get the impression that those 6 men were arrested and innocent.
    Here is what the bBC doesn’t tell you;
    A report on the incident has said that although all six men were later released without charge, police were justified in making the arrests after receiving a call at 4.30pm on September 16, the day before the Pope was due to arrive in London.

    They were overheard saying that a “Christian should be killed for every page that was damaged” according to the report by David Anderson QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation. “The view was expressed that whilst the Pope’s vehicle was protected, it could be stopped and that even if he survived, those around him would die,” Mr Anderson said.

    The source also told police that the men could all be working on the day of the Pope’s visit to London and the depot had recently taken delivery of new uniforms, ten of which had been stolen.

    One of the men was said to have returned from Paris on Monday or Tuesday of that week having shaven his hair off and become radicalised.

    “It seems fair to assume that no such plot existed,” Mr Anderson concluded, but he said the suspicions of the police were “plainly genuine” and added: “I consider that the police acted responsibly and within the law in arresting the six men when they did.”

    He also warned that similar operations were likely in the build up to the Olympics and said use of Section 41 of the Terrorism Act would “provide a tempting riposte to such rumours and reports, particularly when the feared attack is imminent” as long as there was reasonable suspicion.

    Not quite the story the bBC promotes is it?

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      a canteen joke had been misunderstood

      a “Christian should be killed for every page that was damaged”

      Oh, my aching sides.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      Weird Beeboid Speak:

      The government’s terror laws

      Whatever do they mean? The government is enshrining terror in law?

      Makes you wonder how their minds work.

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  30. cjhartnett says:

    Excellent pieces these two, pounce!
    I too smelt a rat when Desai` solicitor was piping off about his “innocent” client on the court room steps. We had just heard DSKs brief  spounting too much re HIS clients innocence-presumably drama is compulsory in legal training!
    Looking forward to the BBCs archive revisiting what they said about Desai last year if he really was innocent-looked pretty cut and dried to them,as it did to anyone else outside the Guardianistas(racist ..but of course Polly!).

    That he fiddled his dole and wasn`t straight in his immigrant story don`t sem reasons to doubt what we saw on CCTV etc…if it wasn`t the Blessed Ali(PBUH) the accuser would HIMSELF be a bullied victim of the Met, the one of Martin Nareys fantasies!

    No File on Four on this presecution of a vulnerable member of the immigrant community then Beeboids?…nah,thought not! 
    Ali and entourage will dine out on this one round the Beebs salon hostesses for some time yet…serge+adrenaline=Sonys!

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    • Grant says:

      cj,
      Over the years Private Eye has relentlessly exposed Desai’s lying and corruption and has never been sued to my knowledge. I can’t help thinking that this disgusting creature is getting special treatment by The Establishment because, how shall I put it, his skin is tinted !

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  31. My Site (click to edit) says:

    A little light, er, ‘relief’…

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/neilmidgley/100010238/bbc-it-puts-the-lotion-in-the-basket/

    At least the quality of output in complement is in some way explained, if not excused.

    GIGO.

    I shall never again be able to hear a BBC ‘top’ exec or editor refer to their ‘right hand man’ in quite the same way.

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  32. Phil says:

    Did I say “woman is a fantasist”? I clearly I meant “women are fantasists”

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    • Grant says:

      Phil,
      You are right. It is quite normal for women to fantasise that a naked Frog comes hopping out of the bathroom and attempts to rape them.
      Huh , women, can’t believe a word they say !

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  33. pounce_uk says:

    I had the TV on this morning (rare event as I’m actually a Radio person) and the bBC were discussing the Queens visit to Ireland. First of all they regaled us all to the injustices committed against the Irish by the English, then  off they popped to Dublin and interviewed a number of people and everybody bar two were against the visit. Then it was back to the Studio couch and a chat with 2 people who didn’t have a good word to say about the UK. You know what if I was a child of today, I’d be embarrassed to be English. I mean the Nazis, Ottomans, French, Swedes, Spanish and Romans had nothing on us.  
     
    Then I switched over to Sky and the coverage was totally the opposite.  Now I don’t think that sky are royalists yet there they were reporting how Dublin has been in lock down for the pastweek with parking restrictions and the such. Thus inconveniencing people, however people they interviewed were looking forward to the visit. Yes they broached the subject of the past, but it was treated as the past and how both countries have put those issues behind him (They mentioned how Maggie Thatcher visited) how both countries are now linked as EU countries, how Ireland is one of the few countries the Queen hasn’t visited and how she is well respected in Ireland as a horse breeder.  

    The differences between the two TV stations was quite plain to see, one was very opinionated, the other was balanced no need to quess which was which.
     
    Yup, it seems the bBC has a completely different slant on life than everybody else. I suppose we will be able to clear this all up when the Queen returns to see just who is right.  

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    • Grant says:

      Of course the Irish President will make a speech thanking the British taxpayer for bailing the Irish out of their financial disaster and begging to repay the money as soon as possible.

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  34. cjhartnett says:

    Oh for Gods sake-what is the point of Womans Hour?

    Lead piece today is about whether or not talking to the Taliban would be seen as a betrayal or not?
    You might think “yes,of course”…365 military deaths since 2001…Wootton Bassett and all that…but sod that for a a game of soldiers at the BBC!
    Jane Garvey wonders how this might play amongst “Afghan women”?…not that she`s ever met one,unless it`s of a World Service Oxbridge exotica species!
    So we get the usual suspects stating slightly differing variations…talk now,give it a few months. To be fair,one of them was more animated that our Jane would have liked(excitable foreigner reverts to type when out of the quango/academic common room).
    Presumably Jane and Co feel more “comfortable” quoting Yoko( the real power behind the Beatles remember!) than actually have to talk to some chav with too many kids near Gosport or something equally exotic…but in this case,repellent to the frangrant nannies up  there in Bush House. More tea Imam?-organically sourced of course!

    Tomorrow-Mrs Bin Laden(1,2,3…etc)…is she due compo from those beastly Americans or the EU?…was that African maid in Manhatten no better than she ought to be…
    Reckon we`re getting an SBS squadron here that will terrify Ahmedinajadh…Jane ,Jenni,Shiela and Libby, Yasmin and Polly…lots of ballast there and they could share gargoyle duties too! Show us men how to work cooperatively…ah bless!

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    • Grant says:

      cj,
      The monstrous regiment of BBC women probably think ordinary Afghan women talk of nothing else but world politics, that is if they are allowed to talk at all.

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  35. Billy Nomates says:

    Still quite shocked at the “The Street That Cut Everything” .. unbelievable ..
    I live on a private road and manage to keep it clean without a subsidy from the council. Thankfully I don’t have the BBC delivering crap on my doorstep in the name of entertainment. However, I have thought of another programmes that Nick Robertson might care to present.
     “The Government that Spent Everything”
    A show where labour politicians bankrupt a community and piss public money up a wall. The BBC comes along and then craps on members of the general public
    – Any other suggestions for shows most welcome…

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    • john says:

      “A streetwar named desire” ?

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      The feedback thus far may not be quite as hoped…

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13416205

      I sense early closing may be the order of the da… from above.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Why are all the comments on their new site arse about face?  I keeping reading replies to comments I haven’t been able to read yet.

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        • My Site (click to edit) says:

          It’s alllll part of the improvements the UK public demanded.

          Apparently.

          Ask this guy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/05/our_next_step_in_news_blogging.html

          Who seems to think it is going swimmingly. And will be getting back with answers on why, and to a few critiques.

          Apparently.

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        • My Site (click to edit) says:

          One thing I do notice is that, on the likes of Mr. Robinson’s self-lauding tripe, the one thing that hasn’t changed is how quickly the ‘comments are closed’ shutters come down when things inevitably stray from the bent and wide version he and his masters prefer.

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:

      Next week,

      ‘The Street That Did Away With All The Council Non-Jobs Created By Gordon Brown’

      and the week after that…

      ‘The Street That Took All Their Council Workers Off Final Salary Pension Schemes And Put Them On Defined Benefit Ones’.

      Fairly dull, my man tells me, as things just carried on as normal.

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      • London Calling says:

        The Street without the cost  of able-bodied sickness benefit claimants, overseas bogus student healthcare treatment costs, government department grants to fake lobbying charities , energy bills with no feed-in tarrif subsidy, or 0.7% payment to a corrupt third-world countries, or poppy-burners who can’t afford to take a job as it puts their rent up.

        That should make for “balance” to the tosh the BBC serve up.

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  36. pounce_uk says:

    The bBCs obsession with hating the UK.
    The one who got away
    Talented young tennis player Naiktha Bains has reluctantly turned her back on Great Britain after claiming the Lawn Tennis Association showed little interest in aiding her development.The Leeds-born prospect emigrated to Brisbane shortly after winning a 2005 UK-wide talent search aged eight, and has since enjoyed prolific success. Naiktha wanted to represent Britain and her family urged the LTA to take note, but by the time it reacted she was already being heavily supported in Australia. The 13-year-old is now an Australian citizen and – despite also holding a British passport – she intends to remain faithful to her country of residence… Her father Gurnake added: “The plan was always for Naiktha to train in Australia and stay British for tennis, but we didn’t get any support from the LTA.”We pushed really hard to get them to look at her and would certainly have stayed loyal to Britain. They have since come forward but it’s a bit late. At the moment, she’s representing Australia and is Australian.

    So if you took the bBC article at face value, Naiktha Bains on getting no support from the LTA, emigrated to Australia in which to further her tennis career at the age of 8. Now an Australian citizen she says she will represent Australia. But hidden down in the depths of the bottom of the article you find this little snippet:
    Naiktha first started hitting at the David Lloyd club in Leeds aged six, and was swiftly taken under the wing of then LTA coach Steve Mcloughlin. The following year she emerged from a field of almost 10,000 to win the Ariel Tennis Ace competition, catching the eye of Boris Becker and Tim Henman in the final at Wimbledon.That earned her a year’s free coaching, but Naiktha only used about six months of it before the family uprooted to Australia for lifestyle and business reasons.
    Followed by:
    “Maybe they felt it was impractical, maybe they wanted to focus more on home-based players, maybe there was a change of staff or maybe it was just too hard,” suggested Gurnake, an Indian-born property investor who moved to England aged two and has applied for Australian citizenship.
    So lets get this straight, the bBC is bitching about the LTA (And believe me they have a lot to be bitched about) about a girl whose parents moved to Australia for business reasons 5 years ago and who is now an Australian citizen. In fact for all the articles theme about wanting to remain ‘British’ the father is also taking out Australian citizenship. In light of Australia’s immigration policy , deport those who mess up, you’d think that the last thing an Indian born immigrant would want to be is…an immigrant. I get the impression like many others this man has no problem slagging off the Uk (Like 99% of British people who leave the Uk) and is now a Australian citizen.(and good luck to him)

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    • cjhartnett says:

      Yet again,you`ve hit on something.
      The BBC simply cannot or will not take a story at face value unless it confirms a bigger prejudice of their own liking!
      Just heard what should be a perfectly good nature programme, bu they choose to report from Chernobyl…and to cite climate change at anything pretaining to a loss of habitat/species.
      Why will they not simply stick to the facts-or at least do counter pieces tf they HAVE to be biased…for example how many ponies might die if wind turbines fall over in a storm-it`s juat as ludicrous as choosing Chernobyl as a habitat!
      Once the trust is gone-even in neutral areas like the one I just heard-then the BBC might as well roll up the wagons and go. We need a scientist or two in there who has not had been house trained and neutered by academe or too many staff training days!

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      • Natsman says:

        That’s why I have abandoned listening to (or watching) these “programmes”, they are merely a propaganda vehicle for the BBC to force their beliefs down the throats of their unfortunate audience.

        They are not interested in a balanced discussion, or alternative viewpoints – their remit is to push environmentalism and the man-made climate change myth for all it’s worth, because that’s all they are interested in.

        You can see the level to which they are ensconced in this dogma, because even though the daft coalition is pushing the green economy, and despite the fact that the BBC loathe the conservatives, they are going along with it because it advocates “the cause”.

        Quite what “the cause” is, I’m not certain, but sinister it certainly is, and I’m sure “common purpose” is lurking underneath it all.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        “Once the trust is gone…”

        Absolutely.  I take everything I hear on the BBC with a huge pinch of sodium chloride, which devalues all of their factual output to the status of junk.

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        • Geoff Watts says:

          devalues all of their factual output to the status of junk

          Can I ask an obvious question?
          Why listen to/watch it?
          If you don’t believe anything it says, and it angers you as much as it evidently does, then what benefit do you derive from using it?
          Why not use other services?  With the internet there is no shortage of other sources. 

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          • Daniel Clucas says:

            Personally, I feel I have to watch at least some BBC output as I pay towards it. I like to swear at the ten o’clock news and newsnight and listen to R5L in the car (god knows why). The missus forces Eastenders on me.
            The only thing of value was Masterchef and they’ve even managed to balls that up now 🙁

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          • My Site (click to edit) says:

            Why not use other services?

            I pretty much do.

            Which makes being compelled to pay for a less competent alternative somewhat of an injury. 

            By way of insult, is this forced funding being used to a propaganda service that I do not believe serves the best interests of my family or country at all.

            £4Bpa buys a lot of influence, and with such great power comes great responsibility.

            Not much use if means of holding to account cease. And what was that about ‘when good folk do nothing’?

            And I don’t mean sitting in a BBC market rate office like something out of of Joe Vs. the Volcano.

            How ’bout you?

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          • Roland Deschain says:

            Can I ask an obvious question?  
            Why listen to/watch it?

            Because I’m forced to pay for it if I want to watch other TV.  Because the money that is extracted from me is done so on the basis that the BBC is required to be impartial and uphold certain standards of accuracy.  Because the BBC does not adhere to this agreement, apparently with impunity and therefore uses the extorted money of myself and others to exert undue influence on the politics of this country with its bloated media presence.

            I think that gives me a right to watch matters that might be of interest to me, even if I assume that their facts might be incorrect, to monitor its output and to comment where I consider it falls short of its supposed standards, don’t you?

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          • cjhartnett says:

            Fair enough Geoff.
            I just resent paying for the propaganda,and their monopoly of what constitutes news-and their conflating it with comment.
            The BBC mindset is so out of kilter with we who are taxed(compulsory mind…unlike Murdoch) that this is a sanctuary to get some semblance of truth.
            We`re quite smart as a rule and can come to a consensus-I for one would trust the regular writers here to teach my “media/foreign affairs/ studies over any amount of BBC house trained staffers!
            That said-if you can find any current BBC output that is NOT InHouse Guardian as shrilly yelled at me through the wrong end of their bullhorn-without the wristband liberalism and the rolling bandwagon of aimless controversy-do let me know!
            Just think we deserve better Geoff-God knows we pay enough for their Onoism!

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            • Grant says:

              Why watch it  ?
              I watch it for the few good programmes the BBC still produce and to gather some evidence of the extreme BBC bias so that I can post on this website.
              Would I pay a subscription to watch the BBC ?   No  !
              Do I think the TV tax is legalised theft   ?   Yes !
              Do I hate everything the BBC stands for  ?   Yes  !

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              • hatethebias says:

                That’s a damned cheek, Geoff Watts! Really smacks of socialism – we’ll take your money anyhow, then two fingers to you, don’t watch it if you don’t like it.
                Over and over again on this site, the point is made that it is completely illegitimate to compare the BBC with other sources as they are not funded by a compulsory levy.
                Given that we HAVE to pay it in order to watch other channels, we reserve the right to complain furiously when the Beeb breaks it’s self-admitted duty to be impartial.

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  37. Jane Tracy says:

    I wonder what Stephanie “Floundering” Flanders thinks of todays rise in inflation to 4.5%?

    “But at least this inconvenient jump in inflation will reverse itself in a few months.” is a quote from Stephanie Flanders in Jan 2010 in reaction to “the eye-popping 2.9% annual CPI inflation rate for December.[2010]”

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    • Grant says:

      Jane,
      Inflation is a difficult one for people with the BBC mindset.  Is it good or bad  ?  Not an easy one for Beeboids to answer.

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  38. ap-w says:

    When the radio alarm came on this morning there was a Beeboid talking abouut some European political figure who has been accused of sexual assault and is now a “sadly diminished figure”. I didn’t catch the name, but can only asume they are taking about Berlusconi again, although for some reasoon the tone of the reporting was somewhat different from usual and they didn’t go into the usual level of detail of what he was alleged to have done.

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    • Grant says:

      ap-w,
      Stop teasing !  Let me guess. Oh, come on, give us a clue !  Is the individual a socialist ?

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  39. pounce_uk says:

    So I’m watching the bBC’s coverage of the Queens visit of Ireland on my computer and all I am getting from the bBC  via their live texts is:  
    Writer and broadcaster Fergal Keane says Irish people are living in the now. He tells the BBC that people do not want an apology for all the negative things that happened during English colonialism – they are more concerned about the current financial mess.  
     
    The BBC’s Ken Murray says it’s extraordinary to be on O’Connell Street without one taxi, truck, or bicycle going up or down it.  
     
    The Garden of Remembrance commemorates those who fought for Irish independence against the British Empire. Croke Park is hallowed turf for Irish nationalists. It is the scene of one of the darkest episodes in British-Irish history, where British soldiers massacred 14 unarmed spectators at a Gaelic football match in 1920 after the IRA had killed 14 British intelligence agents.  
     
    The BBC’s Mark Simpson says while the vast majority of Irish people are in favour of the Queen’s visit, it has so far failed to ignite the interest of the younger generation. He says they are more interested in X Factor’s Jedward, the big-haired twins who returned home from their unsuccessful Eurovision bid at the weekend.  
     
    Anglo-Irish relations were strained for decades after Ireland’s War of Indepedence, and the Queen’s visit has been hailed by many commentators as signalling a new era. For history buffs, Diarmaid Ferriter has examined the significance of the visit for the BBC.  
     
    1231: A little pictorial reminder that not everyone in Ireland is happy about the milestone visit:  

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    • pounce_uk says:

      And here are the tweets from the common people:  
      Via Twitter Sorcha McIvor tweets: Such a big day for Ireland. Let’s hope it’s not ruined by a few people who do not represent the overall general Irish public.  
       
      Sharon M Newman tweets: On behalf of 99pc of the population can I say ‘Cead Mile Failte’. (a hundred thousand welcomes)  
       
      James Currie tweets: I hope people understand how historic this event is and how far we have all come.  
       
      Meltinn tweets: The Queen has opted for Aer Lingus green, was all very dignified.  

       

      Gemma Strachan in Dublin emails: There’s a real buzz in the office as we saw her fly over. It is amazing that it has been 100 years since her grandfather visited! I live right next to Pheonix Park so I expect getting home from work is going to be a nightmare. But in the bigger picture, a little distruption to our everyday lives is nothing in comparison to this momentous occasion. I hope she enjoys herself.
         
      Yup funny how the bBC is s out of step with the common people.  

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:

        Yup funny how the bBC is so out of step with the common people.   ‘

        Not at all. The common people are simply misguided and need to come to ‘understand’.

        They managed OK with the EU voting, after it was held enough times to get the ‘correct’ result.

        And now, i think it’s time for a song…

        ‘I said pretend you’ve got no money,
        she just laughed and said,
        “Oh you’re so funny.”
        I said “yeah?
        Well I can’t see anyone else smiling in here.’

        I think they are making a reality show on this very topic soon.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        And moreoever Pounce the common people of Ireland.

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  40. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC car crime and you should have gone to Spec Savers.
    Petrol thieves’ seen on CCTV after running out of fuel
    Two men believed to have stolen up to £1,000 worth of fuel from petrol stations have been captured on CCTV, apparently having run out of fuel… It is believed the main offender is an Asian man in his early 20s, of slim build and 5ft 10in (1.7m).
    So according to that bBC news report police are on the look out for 2 men who have been driving around Manchester nicking petrol one of whom they think is Asian.
    Here is how the Manchester Evening News Reports the same story:
    One of the thieves is Asian, in his early 20s, slim and 5ft 10in tall.
    And below

     is the Greater Manchester Police Video.

    Tell you what, the bBC really hates calling a spade a spade, because I can very clearly tell that, that bloke is..Asian. (I’ll even put money on the table and guess which faith..Any bBC takers?)

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  41. Grant says:

    Switched on the ” Daily Politics” today.  Svelte Anita had been deserted by Brillo who was stuck in traffic.  First topic, the latest inflation figures and first guest, Will, highly paid smug, Hutton. So I switched off and have nothing to report as I could probably have written the script anyway.
    I find the BBC’s angle on everything is just so predictable.

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  42. David Preiser (USA) says:

    There are a couple little details left out of today’s BBC coverage of the Queen’s “historic” visit to Ireland.  After “centuries of enmity and suspcion”, perhaps the two countries can embark on a positive new beginning, I hear from the Beeboids and their talking heads.  Okay, fine, but I wonder if the £7 billion the UK is lending to bail out Ireland from economic disaster has anything to do with the sudden friendliness?  Even if, as Stephanie Flanders told us, it costs Britian “next to nothing” to borrow the money you’re lending to the Irish, which they’ll totally pay back real soon, yeah.  
     
    I guess we don’t want to ruin this celebration of Irish freedom and reminder of British nastiness by petty details.  It would detract from the notion that, as some talking head said to Sopel earlier, “the Irish consider themselves a risen people”, just like “the Yanks”.

    The other detail glossed over is that this “normalization” of relations between the two countries is probably just another step towards removing Northern Ireland from the UK.  Whisper it quietly.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Oops, Mark Simpson just allowed through a vox pops from Sligo who mentioned the bailout favorably.  Good thing Huw Welshman redirected the Narrative back to “those historic events from 40 years ago”.

      Now he’s talking to someone who is going over a laundry list of British atrocities against the Irish.  He mentioned Northern Ireland for a second, but that was quickly swept aside.  We’re not concerned about it today, thanks, maybe later.

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      • Grant says:

        David P,

        You are right. This is all about selling the NI protestants  out to become part of a United Ireland.  I bet the UK government will prevent them from relocating to the mainland.
        The final betrayal in one of the shabbiest episodes in British history.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Grant, I don’t know about selling them out, but as far as I understand, NI is part of the UK based on the vote of the people there.  If the majority votes to join the brilliant Irish economy and then the euro then so be it.  If they continue to vote the IRA into government, Gerry Adams can run for office in the Republic of Ireland, and – as was mentioned at least twice today – the PM of Ireland is from Belfast, it seems like they’re more than halfway there already.

          But for the BBC to play it all down today seems a bit disingenuous.

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          • Grant says:

            David P,
            Well the catholics will be in the majority in NI one day, but that is not to say they would all vote for union with Eire !

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Whatever dampners BBC personages may or may not have put on the occasion, as a very proud Englishman who knows his Irish history well, I found this a truly momentous and moving occasion.

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  43. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ is not happy with Liam Fox’s dissent on the scale of sacrosanct ‘foreign aid’.

    “Liam Fox challenges government overseas aid pledge”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13420536

    Of course, BBC-NUJ does not discuss the enormous waste associated wirth ‘foreign aid’, nor why it should not be subject to cuts.

    ‘Daily Mail’ had this a while ago:

    “Foreign aid millions wasted on taxis and doing up the office (and that was the ONLY area to get increase in spending review)”

    By Tim Shipman

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324322/Foreign-aid-millions-wasted-taxis-doing-office.html#ixzz1Md8sW6Wt

    Of course, BBC-NUJ may well be thinking: more criticism of foreign aid could lead to more criticism of public financing of BBC-NUJ.

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  44. cjhartnett says:

    Oh yes-only in Beebland.
    The following led the P.M Programme tonight.
    1. The Irish don`t really want the Queen-and here`s a few rabid paddies we prepared earlier to say so!
    2. People are just jealous of Chris Huhne. That`s why everyone hates Chris-because he`s so great!
    3. Our French banker won`t be getting a fair trial in the land of the Free-and having run out of ludicrous French accents, here`s a New York defence lawyer(clue`s in the tilte!) to say why he should have got bail and a shave.
    4. The clamour for House of Lords reform is irrestistible, and here`s Nick Clegg to try again-just as Steel failed and AV failed…well it keeps Robinson etc from actually finding any news.
    5.  Will Ed listen to Tessa or Maurice if he wants to be as great as Tony Blair?-we can but dream!
    Of course there were more trivia and filler in a Celtic voice…for this is what the BBC does.
    Oh to be in Beebland where the least of your problems is what Huhne will be putting on his CV .
    The BBC is simply the political arm of the shiny happy people.
    Crime,mortgages, unemployment,shit schools and kids with samurai swords in Victoria…but the House of Lords screams for reform!
    Welcome to Beebland!

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    • Grant says:

      Another masterpiece from cj !
      Channel 4 News wa seven worse than the BBC with an IRA man, interviewd by Jon “Pinko” Snow , saying the Queen should never have been invited. To be fair to Snow, he did try and ruffle the chap’s feathers a bit. But, no-one giving the opposing view.
      What is the problem with Lefties ?  Are they so unsure of their opinions that they can’t bear to hear any criticism ?  I sign of weakness, surely ?

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      • cjhartnett says:

        You`re right about Snow, Grant!
        The man is preposterous in all senses. Prep school,Oxbridge, private school, son of a bishop-exactly the kind of dilettante on a guilt trip that the BBC would love to have in their club.
        I`ll not forget him browbeating some Sri Lankan minister on his show-and threatening there and then to get the next flight out to Colombo unless the minister `fessed up about the “atrocities” that Snow had just shown him!
        Carbon footprint be damned-Snow was going over in the pith helmet to show those fuzzy wuzzies just where they weren`t been straight with the Great White seeker of the truth!
        The Sri Lankan just smiled-he knew a pith artist when he saw one!
        Snow-the brighter the socks, the louder the tie-the worse his show gets…a bed blocker for sixties privilege …

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        • Grant says:

          cj,
          I wonder if Pinko Snow has been planted in Channel 4 by the BBC to be sure the news is never objective and unbiased.  “Pith artist ” indeed  !
          Mind you “Krish” isn’t much better.  Most of the time he seems quite reasonable, then suddenly he jumps out of his pram when he is interviewing someone, for no apparent reason.

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        • NotaSheep says:

          Pith helmet to pith artist.. I salute you 😀

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  45. George R says:

    Not discussed on BBC-NUJ ‘PM’:

    ‘Given that many people in the Republic of Ireland do not want the Queen there, is it time to reciprocate and for the United Kingdom to prevent Irish people from visiting and working in the UK?’

    and:

    ‘Given the British people’s sacrifices in fighting Nazi Germany in World War II, is now not an appropriate time for the Republic of Ireland to publicly show its appreciation?’

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  46. Mark Hough says:

    Anyone else notice that when talking about the cuts, the emphasis is always on their effect on the old, sick and poor.
    However, when talking about the maintenance of overseas aid, it’s the effect on David Cameron and the image of the Conservative Party that becomes paramount.

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    • London Calling says:

      Cameron lives inside the Westminster Bubble. He still thinks it’s his mission to “detoxify the Tory brand” – a vacuous piece of advice from the silverspoon kiddies in PR-land. Foreign aid, the Criminal Rights Act, suicidal energy policies, redisorganisation of the NHS , Brussels-in-charge, you name it, Cameron’s facing the wrong way on every one of them. I don’t know why the BBC bother to keep chipping a way, Cameron is an open goal mouth.

      But inside the bubble there is no real world, just the bubble. Now not only Labour supporters hate Cameron, so do real Conservatives, and so should anyone else with a grain of sense.
      The disconnect between the political class (of all shades) and The People is now complete.

      The BBC and David Cameron deserve each other. All inside the Bubble.

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      • Grant says:

        London,
        You are right.  They all live in a different world from the rest of us.

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      • Millie Tant says:

        redisorganisation of the NHS

          😀 😀

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        • London Calling says:

          “Redisorganisation” Totally apt term coined by Alan Maynard, Professor of Health Economics, University of York, who for the last twenty years has been one of the only academics who understands what’s wrong with the NHS and how to fix it. Unlike the parade of the bleeding stumps  – BMA, RCN, Unite, and fellow travellers reds under the hospital beds like Kings Fund.

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  47. hippiepooter says:

    As regulars here may be aware, I am completely mystified as to why R5L’s Nicky Campbell and Victoria Derbyshire are such pet hate figures here.

    Here is an interview that NC conducted this morning with Richard Boyd Barrett, Irish TD (MP) for the far left ‘People before Profit Alliance’ on Her Majesty’s state visit to Ireland (2:37.24 in).  In my view it was biased.  I would be interested to know if commenters think so and if so, in which direction?

    Here is an interview Victoria Derbyshire conducted with Harriet Harman on Liam Fox’s efforts to undermine legal underwriting of the level of foreign aid spending (1:06.14).  Again, I’d be intrigued to know if the commentariat perceive any bias, and if so, for or against?

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  48. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Before the interview hippie mentions, Stephen Nolan was talking with an Irish Government figure about how the bomb found and the hoax bomb scare this morning are relevant to the idea of reconciliation.  The Irish woman told him it was only a “small minority” who wanted to cause a fuss, only a few “dissenters” who were against the peace process, and everyone else was fine with the Queen’s visit and normal relations with Britain.  Nolan objected and said, “Not just dissenters, though.”  Huh? Some people in favor of it are against it as well?  He then went on to press the woman about demanding a UK response about the Dublin and Monaghan bombings of 1974.  The families of the victims still want answers, he says.  We’re not allowed to blame the Irish Government or even Sinn Fein for IRA violence, but we’re allowed to blame the UK Government for the Ulster para mob?  One can always rely on Nolan for a bit of sectarian attitude.  You’re required to allow people like Adams and McGuinnes who admit to having blood on their hands to walk the streets as free innocents but murky allegations about British security services involvement which have not been proven are treated as facts to be reckoned with.  No bias there, then.

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  49. cjhartnett says:

    Oh dear-poor old Newsnight is on its last legs isn`t it?
    As I write this, it is one of Jeremys specials-it`s all about what would have happened to Bin Laden had he been caught. That he wasn`t is neither here nor there-but what might have happened?…
    Well-what has clearly happened is that any two bit Rumpole is taking the mick out of the useful idiots at BBC casting/commissioning! It`s all rambling conjecture and speculation-and we`ve a full 45 minutes of it. 
    Poor Paxman-to see him reduced to this from a low baseline is so “sad” as they`d say if anyone was bothering to watch this tosh!
    Tomorrow-does the tooth fairy rig commodity prices in tooth enamel…and how are the Toricutz affecting her abilty to visit council estates or SureStart projects?

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    • dave s says:

      I tried very hard to watch it. Tiresome , irrelevant and a waste of time.
      Newsnight has long outlived it’s usefulness.

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      • Grant says:

        Yes, Paxman is old, tired and clearly bored by the whole thing. Why does he cling on ?  Does he need the money ?

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  50. jarwill101 says:

    It could be argued that the BBC is, in a sense, a recipient of foreign aid. Given that Beeboid-Guardianista is a foreign country to many in the UK. Our money goes to corrupt, cultural Marxist dictators (of the airwaves) who are not only unaccountable, but relentlessly hostile to the hands that feed them. We’re propping up a failed state that is too afraid to stand on its own two feet – our money is merely prolonging the/our agony.

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    • cjhartnett says:

      Excellent point Jarwill.
      There will surely come a time when this can be argued.
      Why do we fund this enemy within, when Murdoch etc at least have to respond to the market.
      The BBC rig consent but are completely hopeless at it. They`re rumbled and should not be allowed to scuttle the ship and scoot off into the body politic like maggots.
      Byers,Hewitt,Jowell ,Smith and their counterpoints lie Bolton, Paxman, Dimblebys and Rosens…some accountability please.
      The mis selling of pensions, MG Rover, NHS computers-where do we start with the scandals that they don`t rate as news as long as Camerons socks don`t match Cleggs?

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