SUNDAY MORNING LIVE

Dumbing down as ever. Pouting Suzanne Reid on Sunday Morning Live asks whether WE are partly responsible for Islamic extremism (The short answer is No, blame it on the Koran, not the boogie) and noted philosopher Terry Christian is on to argue for making Class A drugs available on prescription. Just some of the liberal navel-gazing on BBC1 this morning.

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43 Responses to SUNDAY MORNING LIVE

  1. ltwf1964 says:

    I’m convinced that the number 1 qualification to be a beeboid is either to be totally starved of oxygen at birth,or be dropped on your head at a very young age

    a complete bunch of left wing numbnuts

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  2. David Vance says:

    Terry Christian allowed to sneer, interrupt, hector and engage in student union political debate. No change there then. 😀

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  3. George R says:

    Off INBBC’s political radar:

    “Why Europe Still Doesn’t Get Islam”

    http://www.eurasiareview.com/201010058752/why-europe-still-doesnt-get-islam.html

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  4. RGH says:

    Pouting Suzanne Reid on Sunday Morning Live asks whether WE are partly responsible for Islamic extremism

    That view, quite disgraceful, is expressed in some quarters about the Twin Towers. It wouldn’t have happened if, in some way, we hadn’t called it upon ourselves. Pan to celebrations on the Arab Street.

    No, BBC, islamic extremism is part of a rising tide of Islamo-fascism and needs no external provocation.

    To even suggest otherwise is profoundly immoral.

    She is giving credence to the ‘collective guilt’ of racism and colonialism narrative. I resent that.

    The victim is to blame for the crime, like the woman is blamed for her rape because she ought at night and therefore ‘available’.

    Islamic extremists are responsible for their own moral actions as are all of us as individuals (Judaeo- Christian) and depraved individuals who kill indiscriminately for religio-political causes have put themselves outside the pale of decent humanity. They are evil and Islam has a moral duty to rid itself of such notions.

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  5. Martin says:

    I wonder if Suzanna Reid would ask are women who dress scantily responsible for rape?  
     
    Are children who run around naked responsible for being abused?  
     
    Perhaps the dopey Reid would like to ask if the people of Bali brought on the bombing of the nightclub?  
     
    Perhaps Reid should ask why people who come here and pray to Mecca seem to hate everything about this Country, including the fact that Ms Reid is able to sit next to males who are not relatives wear skimpy clothes and of course choose who and when she marries.

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  6. Craig says:

    Susanna Reid seemed genuinely shocked when Ann Leslie told her about Splattergate.  She’d clearly never heard about it. Isn’t that amazing? She must only get her news from the BBC.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Susanna Reid seemed genuinely shocked when Ann Leslie told her about Splattergate.  She’d clearly never heard about it.’

      Actually, thinking on it, there is soooo much more to this that needs highlighting. 

      We are being served, for both ‘news’, and ‘views’, by male and female bimbos who essentially live in a bubble of their employers malign creation.

      That… is scary.

      Any time line on the iPlayer at which point this went down? I like to preserve such moments.

      No reason. Or pressure.

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      • Craig says:

        The relevant bit begins at about 41.00. Susanna’s startled reaction is at 41.44. It’s followed a few seconds later by a troubled, puzzled look and the immortal words “And I’m not sure about the film to which you’re referring”.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Ta very much. Still working through it all. My Mac keeps crashing but at least iPlayer picks up at each reboot.

          I think the poor chip can’t cope with Terry Christian’s voice, which seems to pervade throughout, especially over any trying to speak in counter to his diatribe worldview. It’s like a human EMP. He should be a must invite guest across the BBC as no one can surely get on board anything he demands one must. He’s that rabid and convinced of his own rectitude. Even to the ‘Daily Mail reader!’ jibes, like that actually means anything when discussing actual facts. Plus making Ken Livingstone sound like James Earl Jones.

          And on the day of 10:10:10 launch, after a vast campaign that shot itself in the foot at the last hurdle, such that the sole voice not of hectoring activism or wet liberal dogma, Anne Leslie, is aware of it, that a Beeboid in theory at the top of the ‘news/views’ game can utter… And I’m not sure about the film to which you’re referring” is indeed worth immortalising.

          I am sure you are not, luv. That is how you are programmed. Shame you are however deemed worthy to chair debates on matters of public interest based more on ratings-generating mumsiness and brunette tresses than brains.

          Actually I reckon she was well aware of it. And down the earpiece were screams of ‘move it on before Terry and the Imam kill us!!!!’ like Hattie having a word with Dimbers. ‘Not sure’ meant ‘not sure about going there’.

          They know what needs suppressing at all costs.

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          • Roland Deschain says:

            From the short clip I’ve seen I think she was very well aware what Ann Leslie was referring to, which was why the discussion was quickly moved on.  She could claim not to know as Ann said the children were machine-gunned:  as we all know, they were blown up. 

            Which rather suggests Ann hadn’t seen it either.  So Susanna Reid knew she could safely deny it with Ann not in a position to argue.

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  7. Backwoodsman says:

    Note the beeboids pushing the postman pat line that “coalition cuts are worse than Thatcher”, for all its worth – this from the towering genius who admitted he would have to go out and buy a beginers guide to economics book !

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  8. David Vance says:

    Martin

    Good points.

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  9. Craig says:

    Wow! The loud-mouthed, bullying Terry Christian (who had been raising my blood pressure for most of the programme) suddenly tells it very straight!

    “We weren’t at war in Iraq and Afghanistan when those planes were flown into the Twin Towers. What they are is a fascist, faith-based death cult and we should have no truck with them whatsoever. And when you’ve got people making these threats over a few cartoons in Denmark and you’ve got Salman Rushdie having to go and hide. We weren’t in Iraq then and we weren’t in Afghanistan then. These people are absolute nut-jobs!”

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  10. David Vance says:

    BBC polls says 90% of people believe families should not be paid for having kids. Could we have a poll should the BBC be paid 3.5bn for having programmes? 🙁  

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    • Martin says:

      David, it’s a joke when the BBC state continually that the Tory proposal to scrap child benefit for the better off was ‘controversial’ as Toenails himself said, it’s only because fellow BBC hacks were angry that they might be losing out, whatever happened to Socialism then BBC? The BBC keep bleating the lie about the Tories robbing single mothers, this would be single mothers on more than 45K a year BBC? The BBC talk about them being widows, well I suspect even if such a mythical woman exists her ex husband would have had life insurance. Not only that but a ‘single mother’ on say 50K a year still has to pay the higher rate of income tax but TWO people on say 40K each wouldn’t Funny the BBC don’t point out that isn’t fair either. I wonder why?

      Just as every poll I’ve seen says the public are in support of the Tory cuts, most people know Brown was a total twat who drove the economy of this nation onto the rocks, the morons on the left can spin the lies about bailing out bankers, but our economy was broken long before the bankers put holes in the ships lifeboats.

      I just wonder how often Alan Johnson will be challenged about his lack of economic prowess on the BBC? Not very often I suspect.

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  11. Millie Tant says:

    The fatuous “question” posed by the Beeboid Corporation is actually this:

    Are we to blame for Islamic terrorism?

    Why are they casting around for where to place blame? Isn’t it blindingly obvious? Read your own inane question.

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  12. Maturecheese says:

    I actually watched it this morning and I don’t think I’ll go there again.  It was, on the whole. painful.

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  13. beness says:

    Listening to Radio five at the minute. One long attack on the tories from aassortment of so called commedians in the studio.

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    • Martin says:

      I heard that crap as well. I also turned off.

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    • David Jones says:

      I heard that and wrote this to 5 Live:
       

      “I’ve just been listening to 7 Day Sunday. Very funny; at least I think it was judging by the incessant giggles from Sarah Millican.

      “Please let me know when I can listen to a slightly more right-wing comedy show which doesn’t make fun of, for example, loud bangs in Brighton at Conservative conferences.

      “After all Helen Boaden says impartiality is in your genes so I’m sure you will have something I can enjoy.”

      Don’t tell me it isn’t worth writing; it made me feel better.

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      • John Horne Tooke says:

        Good God – I had never heard of this Sarah Millican.

        IS this really comedy? Just right for the BBC though.

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  14. RepublicanStones says:

    To pretend that western involvement in the middle east does not account in any way for violence against the west is to be ignorant of history.

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    • Martin says:

      Sorry but most violence in the middle east has been Muslim on Muslim. The argument Muslims are putting forward is that the attack on Iraq radicalised Muslims. This does not explain the long list of atrocities carried out by Mohammedans BEFORE 2003.

      Perhaps you should ask why there are no proper democratic Muslim countries, why do so many Muslims like leaders who abuse, rob and torture them?

      I personally think the invasion of Iraq was wrong, we should have just killed Saddam years ago, at the end of the first gulf war stormin Norman should have told those Generals he was talking to he wanted Saddam’s balls on a plate in 24 hours or he’d go to Baghdad, that’s what Patton would have done.

      Your argument also falls apart (and I assume your’e a lefty liberal) when it comes to the nonsense about the cartoons that wound the Mohammedans up, part of living in the west is the ability to take the piss out of religion, I used to love Dave Allen ripping into the Catholic church, if Mohammedans don’t like western freedoms, then piss off back to a Muslim Country.

      I don’t want Sharia law here, I don’t want forced marriages and I don’t want halal meat served everywhere.

      You come here you live by OUR laws and our customs if you don’t like women in short skirts tough, I do and it’s MY Country.

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      • RGH says:

        Western ‘involvement’ is a mere blip in the history of Islam. The issues within Islam….Sunni versus Schia is as old as the faith ideology itself. Just throw the word ‘Aisha’ into a mixed neighbourhood and see what happens.

        Europe saved itself by the skin of its teeth against expansionist Islam starting with the Crusades. To suggest that all was somehow in harmony prior to the modern era is utter moonshine.

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        • james1070 says:

          “Europe saved itself by the skin of its teeth against expansionist Islam starting with the Crusades”  
           
          To true RGH, if it were not for those brave knights, there would have been no Michelangelo, no Johann Sebastian Bach, no William Shakespeare.

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      • Maturecheese says:

        Hear! Hear!  martin and RGH

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    • ltwf1964 says:

      to believe that is to be ignorant of the koran

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Yes, I blame the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire after World War I.  Bloody French.

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    • RCE says:

      What about Kashmir, Aceh, Pattani and Xinjiang? Wherever Islam meets any other culture (not only the West) there is conflict.

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  15. john in cheshire says:

    I would suggest that since its creation in the 7th Century (ie. after nearly 700 years of Christianity) the cult of islam has done more harm to us than we have ever done to them. It’s just a shame that we in the West are not as atavistic as our muslim enemies. Maybe then they’d think twice about harming us; and even wanting to come and live amongst us.

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    • RGH says:

      Quite…we are so despicable cruel and tyrannical, the proud Muslim with his strong sense of social justice has to be forced to live here.

      In fact, I’d go further. Muslims have the great opportunity of enrichment, spiritually and materially by coming to us. Look how well their ideology has organised their homelands.

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  16. Will S says:

    I interrupted my listening to the wonderful voice of Solomon Burke (RIP) to watch the end of the SML programme on the iPlayer regarding whether “we are to blame for terrorism”.

    The key comment for me came from the (wet) Liberal Islam Iman said we have “to win them [terrorists] over”!

    He did not (conveniently) explain “HOW” this might be achieved, which I would think is the question begged by his comment. 

    If only Reid (the presenter) had the intellect to realise what she needed to ask of this (dripping) wet liberal to put him in his place and bring out the reality of the situation we are facing.

    Thankfully, Terry Christian, was not shy in coming forward with the key point that the Islam war on the West started way before any invasion of Afghan & Iraq.

    Facts here to support TC:

    Professor John David Lewis

    Suprisingly for the BBC, the programme included viewers who agreed we were not to blame (for the West being attacked) but it is fair to say that the intellectual base of the whole programme was as shallow as we come to expect on these matters thanks in part to the dislikeable “Mummsy/playschool” style of charing of the presenter.

    At least with the odious Dimblebys you do get some sense they have been educated.

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  17. Will S says:

    Okay, could not resist visiting the segment on SML on cuts to child benefit.

    The BBC’s angle was simply to refer to cuts in benefits as a whole, rather than cuts on benefits to the middle classes.

    I think the BBC are going to try and counter any potential momentum for more cuts to the bloated welfare state, iirespective of whether the handouts being cut are to those on good incomes.

    The introductory film featured an umarried mother who had given birth age 20 whilst a student and she was commenting on whether child benefits should be cut. 

    She would be totally unaffected by the coalitions cut to child benefit (my assumption as I do not think she would earn over £44k at her age).

    So, she was NOT relevant to the current child benefit cut debate, but for me the counter stratgey for the BBC is to pre-empt any potential for those agreeing there should be further deeper cuts.

    The BBC: protector of the role of big state handouts. I wonder why? 😉

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  18. Martin says:

    I managed to catch Alan Johnson out shopping in Waterstones at the weekend 🙂

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  19. George R says:

    MARR- BBC-NUJ: had on his inevitable political chum Ms. Chakrabarti to review the papers this morning; and, of course, she singled out for special commendation the case of the ‘X-factor’ Zimbabwean overstay-visas people as others we British must add to the endless flow of mass immigrants.
    There is no limit to the BBC-NUJ campaigning for mass immigration. It is open-door mass immigration, with no specified upper limit on numbers, to the political liberal left of BBC-Labour-NUJ, which truly wants British society (or what remains of it) to be taken over by the ‘Third World’. That is the ‘logic’ of its political campaigning. That is what the Labour government has been secretly doing over the past decade. Such mass immigration policies have been rejected by the majority of the British people. But not by BBC-NUJ.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Aunty and her acolytes do play fast and lose with the ‘we’ inclusivity a wee bit too often, and and at all the wrong places.

    Look, luv, just because I am forced to pay for your salary, perks and pension doesn’t mean I am, in the least bit, anything like you, or want anything to do with you.

    So enough of the ‘we’ BS. There is you, and your bubble, and the real world. I prefer the latter. It may yet mean a better future.

    Hugs,

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  21. Martin says:

    John Pinhead interviewing Chris Hulme on Radio 5 now, I’ve lost count of the number of interuptions Pinhead has done so far, easy 20-30 in a 15 minute interview.

    The guy is a right tosser.

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  22. Buggy says:

    Incidentally, the answer to the question: “Are we partly to blame for Islamic extremism?”

    No. We are entirely to blame since;

          A) We exist

    and B) We’re not Muslims.

    So really, who wouldn’t feel the urge to dig out the jolly old bomb-making kit and aim the resultant nasties  in our direction ?

    All our own silly fault.

    Silly us.

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  23. Martin says:

    So fatty Nolan on Radio 5 is trying to blame the Lib Dems for the backtracking on tuition fees.

    Well perhaps if the BBC had spent a bit more time attacking the Lib Dems in the election for their fanciful policies we might not be in the mess we’re in now as the Tories may have got an overall majority.

    But the real point about tuition fees is being missed by the BBC as usual. Which Government was it that ordered Lord Browne to investigate the way people pay for University education? Why the one eyed idiots lot. So why now try to blame the current Government for a mess created by Liebour (the expansion of University education to thousands who really shouldn’t be at University) who allowed this steaming turd to be laid over 13 years and not cleaned up.

    You know you really do get the impression that the BBC have simply wiped the last 13 years from history.

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    • davejanfitz says:

      13 years of  BBC sleep,its got nothing to do with us guv.The government should tell the beeb to put up or shut up,attack the beeb at every turn say prove your sources or is it just from the corridoors of the beeb,its war DC and its about time they the tories realised it or else they are chips….

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      • davejanfitz says:

        why is it that we haven’t a list of accounts from the public broadcaster funded by the public…just say if you dont publish free and frank accounts the funding by the public would stop..

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  24. eileen gilbert says:

    yes human rights should be thrown out with political correctness.  too much has been ruined in this OUR country morons like bellfield snd the other murderers should not gain via the taxpayer. we have too many namby-pamby politicians and should get rid of them. the biggest problem is the haves & have nots  ustice is very BAD when the perpretators now can get away with murder.

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