LABOUR’S DAILY BOOST…

In it’s new position as official propagandist for Labour, the BBC lead news story today concerns the conclusions of research that it commissioned (sic) that alleges that Coalition cuts will most deeply effect the North of England and the Midlands where, oddly enough, State subsidy is highest as is support for Labour. The narrative is that the evil Coalition will bring endless misery to these afflicted regions by withdrawing State support, thus missing why these regions are so afflicted! I suppose this is one way to shore up Labour support in the heartland.

Then, during an interview with Nick Clegg, in the prime-time post 8am slot, up comes Coulsongate again. The BBC scents blood here and Labour could not be happier with the alacrity and persistence of the State Broadcaster in leading the charge against Coulson. This morning, Humphyrs was trying to drive a wedge between the Conservatives and the Lib-Dems on this issue.

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80 Responses to LABOUR’S DAILY BOOST…

  1. cjhartnett says:

    Just wrote on both these pieces as well as Gary Richardson in the previous place under Mc Guinness.
    Need a live feed on their increasingly obvious effort to make their own news and regurgitate it so we know the line to take in regard of everything that they care about.
    1. I hope never again to hear Humphrys require a view on a soundbite by Alan Duncan from a leader otherwise engaged in a Toulon Morgue-Humphrys demanded an answer as Clegg himself was repeatedly trying to answer another question as far as I could make out.
    2. Someone remind me where in the BBC Charter does it say that they are expected to commission “research” to show that non-jobs on Teeside or wherever under Labour housebreaking rules are to be left alone,given the mess that Labour have left us all in. We know that there is not a decent mathematician in the place apart from Tim Hartford…hope his coming programme will show a bit of courage and hammer this voxpop lazy survey by a school gate to please Milibands and Mandelsons for an hour os so!

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    • Martin says:

      The BBC simply want to stoke up anger at the cuts, they’ve noticed that a lot of people seem to think the state is too big and needs cutting back.

      That just won’t do, the BBC wants to bring back the old hard left anti Thatcher anger at Cameron.

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    • John Anderson says:

      Humphrys was really sick this morning on Coulson.  He seems to want to lead a witchhunt,  and is questioning Clegg if he had checked his answer with Cameron was disgusting.

      No shame at the BBC.  They are scavengers.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        Humphrys is a petty-tyrant.  He’d love to act as Grand Inquisitioner for a totalitarian regime in the UK.  Heck, he already is, in-waiting.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Yes, every time I hear a Beeboid refer to the “Industrial North”™, I wonder why an industrial area is on benefits.  And right on cue, here comes a reference to the ’80s.  And I know these people define that period as something other than as the time when the foundation was laid for solid economic growth.

      They should be referring to it as the “Public Sector North” or something.

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  2. Phil says:

    Amazingly the odious 5 Live didn’t read out my sarcastic text suggesting a simple solution to the effect of the cuts in the north, that is that all of us who have never been addicted to benefits should carry on working and being taxed even more in order for the work-shy to carry on drawing their state handouts.

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  3. Natsman says:

    Ah, the North.  Smoke-stack land, according to Humphrys.
    Virtually zero manufacturing, now.  No ship building, no steel production, no coal mining to speak of, no nothing.  Like most of the UK, the north has become a wasteland.  What hope?  None, I suspect.  What to do.  Riot?  Let’s have another Jarrow march, that’ll make it all right again…

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    • Scrappydoo says:

      Pampered BBC employees would not want to get their manicured hands dirty building ships or working down the coal mines but they are quite happy for them up north to do it

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      • All Seeing Eye says:

        And they don’t want to help this cultureless destitute Thatcher-blighted wasteland by relocating their studios ‘up North’ either. No branches of Selfridges up there.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        @ Scrappydoo

        Oh darling, but we’re just moving up there to be with these horny handed sons of toil, without the faintest reluctance on the part of any, I do assure you.

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  4. Martin says:

    Yesterday John Pinhead on 5 live openly talked about “driving a wedge between the coalition”

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    • Sceptical Steve says:

      Martin

      I spotted this as well (on Victoria Derbyshire’s programme as I recall) and I thought at the time that it was a spectacularly inappropriate comment from the BBC’s political correspondent.

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  5. Roland Deschain says:

    Nick Clegg isn’t my favourite politician, but he’d obviously been schooled on what to do when Humphrys interrupts – just keep talking over him.  Not quite as successful as when John Prescott does it with his foghorn voice, but nonetheless disconcerting to the interviewer and I wish more would do that.

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  6. dave s says:

    Has anyone in the real world the slightest interest in Coulson? No of course not. None .Zero. Zilch. This is yet another example of how disconnected from reality the media idiots are.

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    • Backwoodsman says:

      Slightly naive there Dave, you can rest assured that untill a better story comes along to provide a platform for the bbcs’  anti Tory message, they will continue to use every trick in the book to keep it on the front page.
      It does have its comical aspects though – take tessa jowel, a woman we are led to believe is too stupid to know she has just signed off a £300K dodgy mortgage form, knows there have been 27 attempts to hack into her phone !

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  7. Martin says:

    Interesting that the Government are not going to claim back back tax under £300 yet this is ignored by the BBC.

    The BBC are also ignoring the fact that this whole tax mess was created by Liebour and the one eyed mong.

    Of course the real anger hasn’t started yet as only a few thousand bills have gone out, give it a few more weeks and once MP’s start getting a hard time off the public let’s see how the BBC reacts then.

    I suspect the BBC/Nu Liebour will simply take the following narrative.

    They will state that the “Tories should write off the bills and that not ot do so shows once again how heartless the Tories are”

    At no time will the BBC point out this mess was created by Liebour, nor will Alistair Darling, Bliar or the mong or Balls be questioned over it.

    I’m amazed at how softly Brillo went on Darling the other day.

    The anger from the public is yet to come and the BBC is plotting.

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    • Grant says:

      Yes Darling sits there with that smug little grin on his stupid face when this whole mess was created by Gordon the Moron and not spotted by Darling. Total incompetents.
      I deal with HMRC regularly on a professional basis and the whole organisation is a total shambles in every respect. their own website just about sums it up.
      I tried to submit a Tax Return electronically this morning. “Service currently unavailable “.  Useless.
      They make me almost as angry as the BBC and that is saying something !

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  8. Backwoodsman says:

    One startling figure released, no doubt unintentionaly by the beeboid ‘research’ , was that 46% of the working population of Teeside are on the public payroll ! Perhaps one of the highly trained beeboid economists might like to comment on the sustainability of this figure ?
    Did anyone notice who was said to be behind the research , ‘the bbc council for the regions ‘? or similar. It was said in such a way to cause a little red beeboid warning light to flash in my brain !

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  9. Phil says:

    The government is doing its bit for Salford by sending 1,800 public sector jobs from London to the new BBC headquarters on the banks of the Manchester Ship Canal.

    The BBC’s staff don’t seem to appreciate this bit of state support for the north. I expect they prefer to theorise and pontificate about the wonders of socialism from the affluent south east rather than experiencing it in practice for themselves.

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  10. 1327 says:

    Living “opp north” in a Labour stronghold you can’t help but notice the endless Quangos and Civil Service depts that have been moved up here. Each has to have had its own new building put up specially for it and always has a car park full of nice new cars. Most of the staff however were moved from the south of England with the locals that work there being employed on short term contracts doing the lower paid grunt work. Friends of mine have worked for Immigration , HMRC and others in that way. The tales of waste I have heard from them are eye watering but all comment that their jobs are entirely pointless.

    Were the govt to get brave and really start cutting these pointless wastes of time I doubt the effect would be that bad and good even be a positive for the regions involved. Firstly house prices would fall , the cost of office and other commercial premises would also fall and we might see some genuine jobs created in the vacumm.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Ah, now I understand what this woman from Mansfield meant when she said that pooblic mooney has “transformed the area over the last 20 years.”  Which, strangely, is the reason she gives for demanding still more.

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      • 1327 says:

        David its hard to describe to anyone who isn’t from these parts just what a mess Labour has made to parts of northern England. For assorted reasons the mines and heavy industries closed in the 80’s then from that moment onwards the Labour local authorities in those areas did everything wrong. Seeing unemployment their solution was more public “services” so higher local taxes and more private sector job losses their solution .. more public services and so on. Rather than deal with the problem the Tory governments of the 90’s started to route more and more central government cash to the councils to keep the charade running. Then Labour got into power and made things even worse especially since many of the new Labour figures had powerbases in the north and some such as David Blunkett had previously ruled over (and totally f**ked up) northern cities. So not only did they send more cash up north they located their newly created Quangos and civil service departments up there as well.

        So you now have areas where the vast majority of the populace exist on government handouts and they are ruled over by a local government that exists on hand outs also. The only way to stop this is to stop the money but I fear the Tories don’t have the guts.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Thanks, 1327.  Interesting stuff.  I’m aware, of course, of the closing of the mines (Boo!  Oh, Maggie, what have you done to England?) and all that, but was not aware just how the total transformation of the area worked.

          Usually with this kind of issue, I listen to the BBC’s reporting, and then assume the opposite is true.  Hasn’t led me too far astray yet.

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          • 1327 says:

            Don’t think the whole of Northern England is a disaster zone though. North Yorkshire is doing well as is to the south the county of Derbyshire. Many companies who work in the southern part of Yorkshire are actually based in Derbyshire where local taxes are lower and the local government much more business friendly.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      I see Middlesborough has been found (by this survey at least) to be the worst placed to take the “cuts”. Middlesbourough is the place where the loony left were in control during the 1970s. The whole place was surrounded by steelworks – yet there still seemed to be a high proportion of unemployable in the area. Middlesborough was also deemed a “Nuclear free zone” by the council and signs were posted on every road advertising that fact on entering the town.

      I cycled past one of these signs every day on my way to work. It was such a reasurence when entering Middlesborough that if there had been a nuclear attack I was safe.

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  11. 1327 says:

    No one will be surprised to hear that the World at One on Radio 4 was banging on about this report at lunchtime. Who did they have on to tell use about this but our old friend and Beeb speed dial regular Prof Danny Dorling. Handily he had just seen a map of these cuts which just happened to show they did indeed hit the north very hard. Up against him was a Conservative councillor from Surrey who actually held her own and made some good points.

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    • Craig says:

      Danny Dorling, left-wing professor, fan of the public sector and foe of the private sector, was the man behind the BBC’s last big survey in 2008, Changing UK, which “revealed we are now a fractured society”.
      Who would have expected a Marxist like Dorling to have ‘revealed’ that?

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  12. Gerald says:

    The bit that got me this morning was the refreshing approach of Ray Mallon, the elected mayor of Middlesborough. Did he wring his hands and moan, no he said he knew they were over dependant on public sector jobs and has (not will) set out to try to change that. No politics, just practicalities. One suspects he is not popular among Labour politicians in the area but is with the population!

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      Ray Mallon is an ex-copper (Robo Cop) – I do not know his politics but his policies on crime when he took over as Mayor scared the pants off the Labour councillors. Once he said to officers “Never mind about the Human Rights Act we will worry about that later, lets get the criminals first”. (I paraphrase but that was indeed the gist).

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      • hippiepooter says:

        Yeah, Ray Mallon, now there’s a blast from the past.  Great to hear he’s still knocking about and doing good.

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  13. 1327 says:

    I heard that Gerald and it was noticeable they didn’t let him speak for long. Its the first time in ages I have heard Mr Mallon on the Beeb who don’t seem to like him or the English Democrat mayor of Doncaster.

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  14. kitty shaw says:

    “Coalition cuts will most deeply effect the North of England and the Midlands where, oddly enough, State subsidy is highest as is support for Labour”

    Steady on David, you’re going a bit BBC there.

    Might be able to make a case for the North (though such a large area is not a very helpful analysis) but the Midlands a ‘Labour heartland’ too?
    We know that Wales and Scotland are also ‘Labour heartlands’, in fact more so too.
    That only leaves the South, East Anglia and Ulster as not ‘Labour heartlands’ which would mean we would have to put up with Labour permanently (do the maths).
    I don’t buy it, any more than I don’t buy the BBC line, that said I wish it was the whole BBC I wasn’t having to buy!

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    • Gerald says:

      As well as being Labour heartlands I think you will find that they are over represented by M.Ps. You will need to note how the Labour Party profess their opposition to the AV and other matters bill when it comes to discussing the reduction in the number of M.Ps. At present Labour get 36% of vote equals 60 majority. Tories get 37% equals hung parliament. I think you will find the adjustment of boundaries accompanying the reduction in M.P. numbers will also  produce more equal numbers of voters for each seat and will remove the in built Labour bias.

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  15. Ian Walker says:

    The online news page on this is topped by a picture of the closed Corus steelworks in Redcar.

    That’s the steelworks that closed after Labour allowed Tata to buy Corus and ship production back to India.

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    • John Anderson says:

      and Tata now gets millions and millions in carbon credits – a great Labour wheeze.

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  16. Chuffer says:

    Mark Easton writes on his blog about visiting the NE:

    “William Gladstone famously went to the original town hall in Middlesbrough and proclaimed it an “infant Hercules”.

    Go to the same spot now, as I did, and you find a sad, boarded up building surrounded by wasteland and a few abandoned, crumbling houses.”
    One of the commentators takes him up:
    “Well no, you clearly did not. As an actual resident of Middlesbrough, I know that Middlesbrough Town Hall is not boarded up or remotely sad, infact it’s a quite beautiful old building which is still used as the main entertainment venue in the town. The interior and upkeep of the Town Hall is of an excellent standare. Also, where these ‘abandoned, crumbling houses’ are again is another mystery, as the Town Hall is flanked by a popular nightclub and restaurant/bar. Quite quite why you’ve chosen to publish something so factually inaccurate is beyond me. I hope some form of retraction can be published about something so grossly misleading.”

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    • Guest Who says:

      Presuming this commentator to be correct, and by not being in BBC employ that certainly adds to their credentials…

      Quite quite why you’ve chosen to publish something so factually inaccurate is beyond me.

      Sadly, to many here, entirely within experience.

      I hope some form of retraction can be published about something so grossly misleading.

      Hope springs eternal. Maybe the Trust can be eventually nudged into excusing it as ‘journalistic shorthand’, and lob a another few licence fees on the fire to cover convening to discuss it.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      A second commenter has busted Easton for the same “serious deceptive and factual error”.  Although he does say that this other commenter is also wrong.


      It is quite true that Middlesbrough’s original and rather humble town hall (built 1846) is now a rather sad, boarded up building in what is actually the most run down area of the town, but his reasoning for how this state of affairs came about is incorect.
      The particlar area that he mentions was the original dockside town of Middlesbrough. It was rather trapped between the river and a neighbouring railway line (of 1877) with little room for growth. When Gladstone visited Middlesbrough it was a boom town, experiencing the most phenomenal, Herculean population growth ever seen by any English town.
      The original dockside settlement was not a satisfactory setting for a place experiencing such a growth in population and prosperity.
      So, in the later nineteenth century the town centre was relocated to the other side of the railway where a new, large and very impressive town hall was built (1883-89). This superb building can still be seen in the modern town centre of today, which is, incidentally, a place far removed from the grim picture that Mark Easton paints.
      The problem is that Middlesbrough Borough is a relatively small borough, as defined by its boundaries, but it does incoporate some run down districts, such as the area Easton mentions. These areas distort the overall image of the place.

      Then he reminds Easton that readers can use Google Maps to find out for themselves that he’s not being totally honest.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Phew, glad I put that caveat in. Sadly not enjoying the resources of the BBC can limit one… which is why you don’t always accept the first thing that rolls in, even if it sounds about right..[Aunty please note].

        But then we find that the error [subject to..etc] still exists, compounded by an all-to-typical taking of a situation and then spinning it to suit with a ladle of agenda-dripping, audience-steering opinion.

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      • Grant says:

        Maybe Easton was confusing Middlesborough with somewhere else or didn’t visit “oop north” at all and just made it up.  I wouldn’t trust a Beeboid on anything whatsoever.

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  17. Asuka Langley Soryu says:

    I’m from York (which is in the Dirty North). I just got home (from my private sector job) to hear the back end of a report on BBC Radio York which was keeping the dog company. The BBC had commissioned some sort of report to say that York was suffering economically because it was reliant on the public sector which was being cut. The tone was clear: Nasty Tory Cuts are harming you, citizens.
    The interviewer had on some business representative who totally pwned her. He trashed the BBC’s report; implied it wasn’t objective, condescendingly referred to the interviewer by her first name, bigged-up the private sector, had her stuttering with indignation.
    I’m not sure if she was unprepared. It did seem like she wasn’t expecting it to go off script like that, that it totally blew up in her face. What a joy to behold.
    I didn’t get the guy’s name, but I’d like to buy him a pint.

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    • Will S says:

      Also heard the BBC Radio York business forum leader as well and he was very good.

      All the Beeboid could refer to was not the facts as outlined by this forum leader (tourism on rise in York, large healthy businesses in York et al) but rather the report putting York 2/3rds down the list and therefore less resilient than other smaller commmunities in North Yorkshire which were higher up than York.

      Tthe report says York is less resilient so it must be true, which, as the forum leader explained flied in the face of the evidence he had expereinced in the past couple of years (and was contrary to other “objective” independent reports on the economic health of York).

      She couldn’t belive he was questioning the results of the survey given the manner of her continual repitition of the “facts” of this BBC report!

      Quite funny if not so pathetic and yet people still believe the BBC is a good thing!

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      • Grant says:

        The only time I visited York some years back, it seemed pretty affluent as well as the surrounding area. Beautiful historic city, by the way, and York Minster is amazing.  Visit it, before it is turned into a mosque.  

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  18. Martin says:

    The irony of it lost on the BBC. The rag heads in Pakistan burning the US flag and protesting. So clearly the floods are all over then? No more western aid needed.

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  19. Martin says:

    Normally the BBC love to report every story from Robert Fisk, so why not this one?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-lie-behind-mass-suicides-of-egypts-young-women-2074229.html

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    • Grant says:

      We all know why the BBC won’t report this. The mystery is why has the loathesome Fisk reported it ?
      I have never actually killed anyone , but decapitation is not the first method to come to mind , even if the victim was a Beeboid.

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  20. Martin says:

    No one asks the obvious question, why don’t firms want to set up in the north east or north west? Could it be that the people (rightly or wrongly) are seen as idle, on permanent strike and thieves?

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    • John Anderson says:

      the cold climate in the north-east is a clear factor.  Constant wind of the North Sea,  all the way from Siberia.  My first house was in County Durham, I remember the nappies drying on the line at a 30 degree tilt,  iced rutted pavements lasted for weeks,  sitting in a duffle coat in the middle of August on a glorious and deserted Northumberland beach.

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      • John Horne Tooke says:

        Ah!!  what memories – but since AGW we have only been snowed in 3 times last winter.

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      • Grant says:

        Everyone should come to East Lothian. Yesterday was a glorious summer’s day, sitting outside, shirt sleeves at a friends house in Dunbar eating pasta washed down with a few glasses of Irn Bru.

        Oops, today in Edinburgh, cold and  pouring with rain, definite duffle coat weather. Now I know why we invented Irn Bru.

        But, thank God , the BBC will never relocate this far North  😀

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  21. Craig says:

    That bit on The World at One with Danny Dorling and the lady from the Surrey Chambers of Commerce (which 1327 discussed earlier) was just the tailpiece of a programme that spent most of its time banging on about the Coulson story again (for the fifth day running).   
       
    There was a near-eight-minute-long interview with someone who worked at the News of the World until 2001, so spent a few months there (yes a few months!!!) when Coulson was deputy editor (from 2000). This man was the Guardian‘s ‘scoop’ of the day, so the BBC just followed where their Guardian soulmates led.   
       
    While the beeboid interviewer merely encouraged the guy to dish the dirt on Coulson & didn’t challenge him at all, Channel Four News has had the decency today to question the value of his ‘evidence’.   
       
    It was 1.22pm before WATO (with just eight minutes remaining) moved on to talk to a spokesman for the Pakistan foreign ministry about the Koran-burning pastor.


    WATO stinks of bias.

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    • 1327 says:

      Thanks Craig its rare I listen to WATO and I just caught a part of it as I ate my lunch today. When I heard Prof Dorling was coming on I pretty much knew what to expect.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      I’m totally against the burning of Koreans.

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  22. Martin says:

    There is a lot of TV programming covering 9/11, the digital channels have had a lot already and Channel 4 & 5 have stuff.

    But from the BBC…………………. nothing

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  23. Andrew Mars says:

    No mention of the fact that it’s these parts of the country that have been most affected by New Labour’s mass-importation of cheap foreign labour.
    Sadly the Labour vote in these areas is boosted by the ingrained ‘vote as my parents voted’ mentality, as well as the many third world ghettos created by New Labour to support New Labour. 

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    • Martin says:

      The white working class make no demands of Liebour for their votes.

      It never seems to spring to mind of the people in the inner city shit holes like Glasgow that despite years of Liebour Government their inner city shit holes are just as bad as they always were. Sure there might be a few new houses or some fancy shopping centre, but at heart the schools are still crap and they are still crime ridden vomit holes.

      Immigrants bring in 3rd world diseases we thought were long gone, kids that can’t speak English and women who can’t go out on their own.

      The well paid jobs that the white working class did for years are long gone and won’t be coming back, yet rather than encourage high tech industries into these areas and TRAIN people, we get Government non jobs for white liberals instead.

      Take Formula 1, most of the F1 teams are located in a region from Milton Keynes down to Woking  and across to Cambridgeshire. Why? Because there is access to a large skill base in that area. It’s not just F1 teams but other racing outfits as well. Cosworth (Northampton/Cambridge) and Lola (Cambridgeshire)

      It goes on, I refuse to believe that you can’t build such high tech industries in the north, but companies NEED the skilled workforce, not 50k a year 5 a day co-ordinators.

      One reason British Airways put its maintenance depot down in Wales is it’s right next to the RAF’s largest aircraft maintenance depot. Need access to a skilled workforce?

      Until the white working class refuse to tick the box for ANY party until they get access to proper jobs and not shit Government non jobs or benefits they will continue to be ignored.

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      • Andrew Mars says:

        I totally agree. The rate of immigration is one of the best ways to judge the quality of a government. If it’s high then that government is only interested in the short-term and not in creating jobs for the indigenous population long-term. It also means they aren’t capable of creating a sense of worth amongst the young people.
        This is why I say that the NuCons will be judged largely by the way that they deal with immigration. (It’s not looking good for them so far)
        I live in the Waverley Borough of SW Surrey which was marked in the top 3 boroughs least likely to be affected by cuts, and I’d like to be able to just say ‘f*ck ’em’ they got what they deserved by keep voting LibLabCon’, but because immigration at this rate will destroy rural Britain I can’t.

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  24. dave s says:

    I did make an attempt to watch the 10 pm news on BBC. Pointless unless you are a public sector worker or a nulabour supporter. That is who the news is aimed at. Cuts cuts and more cuts by the evil Tories. These overpaid hacks on the BBC will never understand that this country is broke. Reality has fled from the BBC.
    This is not just bias it is blatant propaganda directed against the coalition.
    I still think Cameron is just letting the idiots at the BBC have their head. Then cutting them down to size.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      I believe the reason for the constant talk of “cuts” and Northern England is an attempt to shore up the support for Labour. Some people have begun to think that the “cuts” are a direct result of Labour policies and therefore inevitable. Yes “The North” is Labours heartland but that does not mean that everyone up North is a socialist. I am a public sector worker who is not a socialist. But you cannot blame public sector workers for voting to keep their jobs.

      What is needed is investment in “proper” jobs. Putting people on the dole will not change the political climate.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        True, JHT, but the corollary to what George Osborne told Nick Robinson about the benefits lifestyle is that the country really just doesn’t have the money to continue to prop up a bloated public sector.  The key issue is, as so many here have pointed out already, that a significant amount of the public sector is surplus to requirements.  That’s not the same thing as just going after the public sector in general.

        You can probably sing a list of all the jobs that should be eliminated to the tune of “These Are a Few of My Favorite Things”:  
         
        Quangos and champions and com-pliance targets…

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  25. Martin says:

    Radio 5 drive were discussing pensions. There was a report out stating that the top bosses get something like 25 times the lowest in terms of ratios on pensions.

    Peter Allen talking to some TUC mong I paraphrase “Isn’t it unfair when so many in the PUBLIC sector are going to lose their pensions”

    Why are the mongs at the BBC so obsessed with public sector pensions (could it be because their own lavish pensions are for the chop?) when those of us in the real world kissed goodbye to final salary pensions years ago?

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  26. Martin says:

    Looks like the Pastor in America has learnt the hard way what we here already know. You can’t trust a rag head.

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    • john says:

      Don’t worry Martin, in the interest of balance, the BBC will systematically dismantle Pastor Terry Jones all day long to the point of nausea.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Could someone explain this to me, please, because I must be too thick to understand it.

      Nutter from religion A wants to burn some books of religion B in his own back yard.  Nutters from religion B say if you do that we will riot, destroy property and kill innocent people.  Everyone says tut, tut Mr Nutter From Religion A, you are behaving unreasonably.  Stop it at once.

      How does this seem rational to everyone?

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      • dave s says:

        The  book burning one is not proposing to cause death and mayhem so can safely be ignored. The irrational response threatened thus becomes, in the eyes of the western idiots, a perfectly rational reponse to provocation( this is of course absurd logic) The fact that all human beings have a choice is overlooked.
        The pastor may or may not choose to burn the book.
        Those offended may or may not choose to riot and destroy.
        The western liberal seems to be saying that only the westerner can truly choose. All otheres are creatures of impulse and not to be held responsible for their actions.
        The world is going insane.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          The world is indeed going insane.  I fear we are seeing before our eyes the collapse of Western values in the face of Muslim intimidation.

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  27. Martin says:

    So the BBC reports that the Academies SETUP UNDER LABOUR are doing really well.  
     
    I notice in the reports the BBC insist on highlighting these were SETUP UNDER LABOUR.  
     
    Thing is HMRC was SETUP UNDER LABOUR and the computer system was SETUP UNDER LABOUR, yet the BBC for some reason doesn’t seem to want to remind the public of that. Why BBC?  
     
    Then apparently some of the ideas that the Government asked the public about to save public money are to be implemented. Oh dear, the BBC doesn’t like this, we get an attack from the Unions then slap head Lyam Byrne the mong who laughingly admitted that Labour had spent all the money, something the ugly female beeboid forgot to ask him about.

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    • Llew says:

      You beat me to it. I heard 3 different ways to announce good/bad news stories on BBC Breakfast this morning…

      “academies that Labour established are doing well…”
      “4bn coalition welfare cuts…”
      “the Government has extended the tax payback level..”

      The good news item gets linked with Labour. The bad news item gets linked to the Coalition. Another good news which can’t be linked to Labour is deliberately not linked to the Coalition.

      Subtle but it’s there.

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  28. Martin says:

    I see the BBC mongs are reproting that dopey bitch Emma Thompson said

    Sorry, I meant to say they stone gays on the Isle of Man

    Ho ho ho , very funny, thing is they do stone women in Muslim Countries and hang homosexuals as well. Funny dopey bitch Thompson and the BBC can’t ever be bothered to report the truth.

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    • Grant says:

      There is something about Emma I have always found quite repulsive. Maybe it is because she seems so utterly sexless.

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  29. hippiepooter says:

    Dont know if anyone’s gone before me on this, but worth a read:-

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/6260853/how-humphrys-got-it-wrong.thtml

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      I saw that as well.  I noticed that Forsyth makes the exact same charge that I have: the BBC is doing all reporting on the economy from the Brownite/Obamessiah perspective that we should spend, spend, spend, and it’s horrible and cruel to cut now and will of course cause a double-dip recession.  I keep asking the BBC which countries are doing better now and which aren’t.  They don’t want to admit the evidence – they just keep plugging away at the same policy line, over and over again.

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  30. Umbongo says:

    Journalistic crap and inaccuracy again on Today:  apparently [per the Today website] “a new biography of <!– S ILIN –> Harold Macmillan <!– E ILIN –> reveals that despite his emollient and polished performances, the former Prime Minister was often a bundle of nerves before Prime Minister’s Questions and major speeches.”  This has been known for at least a generation and, probably, has been in the public domain since shortly after Macmillans resignation as PM in 1963.  Also, according to the sages interviewed on Today, the authorised version of Macmillan’s career tells us that Macmillan was so wonderful that he was just a few steps from being a member of the Labour Party.

    In the ecomiums pouring out of this short discussion (remember – as if you needed reminding – that Macmillan was an inveterate wet and enemy of Mrs T) it wasn’t mentioned that Macmillan was one of those “Conservatives” responsible for the “ratchet” which, until Mrs T came along, enshrined Labour economic and social policies as part of the post-war “settlement” between the major parties.  Cameron, BTW, is solidly in the Macmillan tradition of wet Toryism which does not yet give him the free pass accorded to Macmillan (after all, Macmillan is dead  – the only type of Conservative allowed to be “good” – although Ken Clark’s social liberalism gets approving nods from Humphrys et al).  Mind you, IMHO Macmillan genuinely considered that his brand of Conservatism was good for the country.  OTOH Cameron thinks that his brand of Conservatism is good for Cameron: a subtle but important difference.

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  31. matthew rowe says:

    I would like to take this opportunity to remind the bbc of the last time it gave Liebour a free ride over helping to protect jobs in the west mid when Rover was dead and BMW was off the workers would have got big payoffs and their pensions intact but thanks to the beeb and it masters the fine workers of Rover got a much better deal of ‘nothing’ and five nice men got very rich so a good liebour job well done !
    And the beeb have even found the bright side=
    Five years to the day since the collapse of Rover, former worker Giovanni Esposito, standing outside Q Gate in Longbridge, said:
    “In an odd kind of way I’m doing what I really want to do and had Rover not shut I’d probably still be there designing engine mounting systems.”
    Giovanni now works as a freelance writer????? much better then making stuff with yer hands that people actually want ?

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  32. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Looks like the BBC has been listening to their critics.  On the News Channel just now, Jane Hill was talking to some policeman’s union rep who was singing the usual song about boodget coots and losing vast amounts of jobs.  Jane Hill actually asked if he wasn’t being premature and was scaring people unnecessarily because the actual cuts haven’t been revealed yet.  She even asked if it wasn’t the case that everyone had to suffer together, and even the police had to accept their fair share of cuts.

    Now another Beeboid is talking to another Northerner complaining about boodget coots to the Royal Mail and even the idea of privatizing it.  The Beeboid also asked someone named Hayes if he wasn’t “scaremongering”.

    Of course, in both cases, once the Beeboid gave the “scaremongering” challenge, there’s only one reasonable follow-up question and the guest complainging about boodget coots is then allowed to spout whatever he likes unhindered.

    A gesture towards balance, then.  But it shows they’re listening to someone.

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