Budget Special

Always eager to respond to requests; here is Martin’s Thread for the Budget.
I fell into a trance whilst listening to it on R4 so I have no comment to make.

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43 Responses to Budget Special

  1. davejanfitz says:

    george did good,no rise in fuel,fags and booze.should have got rid of the BBC fee though.I’ll keep emailing Mr. Hunt untill he gets the message


    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Exactly. And no more tax on cider, and no VAT on food.  Kind of puts the lie to the Labour and BBC Narrative that the VAT rise is unfair and hits the poorest hardest, as fuel, food, cigs, and booze are lifestyle staples.

      Unless they mean it’s unfair to those poor people who will have to pay more of their dole money for VAT on 45″ flat-screen TVs and £85 Nikes.

      The Beeboids should be raising this every time a Labour or other Leftoid advocate claims the VAT increase is wrong.  Except they haven’t done it once yet today.


  2. Tony_E says:

    BBC really making a huge issue of the rise in VAT. Of course they don’t mention that it’s a smaller rise by proportion thanthe one inflicted on us in January by Alistair Darling, and that the removal of 2.5% VAT last year had almost no effect whatsoever.

    To listen to the BBC you would think this was going to inordinately hit the poor and the inner cities, but seeing as Fuel is reduced rate, food, housing and books all zero, and children’s clothes the same, I would have thought thatthe largest increase would fall on middle income families with a larger amount to spend on other item and on the rural motorist who suffers huge running costs already due to poorly maintained roads and higher milages.


    • Martin says:

      Notice how the BBC seemed to think that women getting child benefit was some sort of ‘right’. Why should women who breed like flies think they should be rewarded? If you want kids, pay for them, don’t expect the state do do it.

      I also like the way the BBC said “If you earn over 21K in the public sector you won’t get a pay rise”. If it had been Liebour in power we’d have gotten “The great leader will ensure the most deserving in the public sector earning less than 21k WILL get a pay rise”


      • NotaSheep says:

        It’s all in the emphasis and the BBC are masters at pushing the line that they want to.


      • Craig says:

        Their ‘Budget: How it will affect you’ article is very grudging about the break for those earning less than 21K.

        It only uses inverted commas for the three phrases of George Osborne’s it most wants to cast doubt on – “unavoidable”, “in it together” and “protected”. The last one is the worst example:

        However, the 1.7 million of public sector employees who earn less than £21,000 a year – 28% of the total – will be “protected”.


  3. matthew rowe says:

    Have to ask! can anyone point me to these figures Hue edwards is using for his ‘green shoots ‘ and ‘recovery in peril’ lines? as i canny find **** all !.


  4. Martin says:

    Can someone remind me, was there anyone on the 6PM news that supported the Government? The only Limp Dem they interviewed was against it (what a shock)

    The BBC really are full of crap. Yes we’ll all be worse off because of VAT but only if you’re buying large expensive items, the BBC played down the linking of pensions back to state earnings and so on.

    Oh how the BBC sneered compared to the yearly lies spouted by the gay one eyed mong, oh where is he by the way?


  5. Grant says:

    The most honest Budget speech I remember in over 20 years. A refreshing change from the slime and sleaze of Brown and Darling.

    The BBC coverage has been so biased, I wouldn’t even go into detail.

    Harriet Harman’s reply was hilarious.  Reading from a text prepared before she heard Osborne’s speech, she mada a complete fool of herself.

    But , as I predicted, the BBC broadcast her full “response”.  They never did that when the Tories were in opposition.

    BBC bias  ?   They make me sick   !!


    • Craig says:

      The BBC is nothing if not predictable Grant.

      Mirroring this, the website’s main article reports what George Osborne says but includes plenty of criticism from all and sundry and lots of typical BBC editorialising. 

      In contrast Harriet Harman gets an article all to herself, and is simply reported at length:
      Budget: Harman says ‘reckless’ Budget will hit the poor

      She even gets a longer video clip (2m 58s) than George Osborne (who gets 2m 35s).


    • Only Winding says:

      Indeed. I well remember listening on 5Live.  All of Brown or Darling’s speech and then 3 or 4 minutes of either Hague, IDS, Howard or Cameron.


  6. Martin says:

    The BBC seem to think that every twat standing for leader of the Liebour party needs their 5 minutes. Piss off BBC.


    • All Seeing Eye says:

      It’s Balance, you see, to give all five of them air time to attack the Budget.

      Labour missed a trick there. If they had nominated 20 candidates then the air time to get them all speaking would have kept the 6 O’Clock News busy for a fortnight.


      • Martin says:

        Don’t worry the BBC will wheel out the Union leaders, the old Liebour farts (Tony Benn, Prescott etc.) plus the beeboids themselves of course.

        The BBC will turn on the usual spin machine, Newsnight this evening, then BBC radio 5 tomorrow morning (luckily the Liebour party of football – England are playing tomorrow afternoon so the beeboid mongs will be obsessed with a load of camp men kicking a pigs bladder round a piece of grass) but Radio 2 and Radio 4 will continue the anti Tory pressure.

        I haven’t seen on Tory interviewed yet, I’m sure even the BBC must have interviewed at least one???


  7. Only Winding says:

    Mark Urban’s report from Deptford on tonight’s news was absolutely hilarious.  The women he assembled on the banks of the Thames warning about class war were truly outstanding.

    Utter jokers.


  8. Martin says:

    Newsnight NOT giving us facts on the Budget just more gay left wing crap about ‘splits’

    As usual mong boy Paxman isn’t able to get to the facts.


  9. Low says:

    What is really enlightening is the disapointment in the beeboibs when they interview the public: during today most seemed to expect and understand the budget.  All the ints./phone ins/beeb press desperately trying to make the situation as a right wing bash the poor creation.  For contrast I turned to sky and they had the debt clock running on the screen….completely different slant.
    C4 25% cuts, Beeb? 25% rises….they wish!!


  10. Craig says:

    There’s a measured assessment of the Budget from Prof Anne Redston on the BBC’s website:  
    Budget analysis: The bus shelter Budget  
    Prof Redston’s article begins:  
    This is a carefully crafted Budget, raising billions. It partially protects poor households from the impact of the tax changes, but they will still feel the cold winds of VAT increases and changes to benefits.  
    It ends:  
    This Budget was a realistic attempt to deal with a massive problem. It will be painful, but does provide some limited protection from the tax changes for pensioners and the poor.  
    This is not exactly what the BBC wants to hear. They want an out-and-out condemnation of the Budget for its wickedness to the poor, not nuance and balance –  so they simply twist what she says and pretend she is saying what they want her to say!  
    If you go back to the main BBC article on the Budget, you’ll see that link to this analysis is headlined:  
    Analysis: Little protection for the poor  
    That headline completely distorts what Prof Redston is saying. It is very dishonest. She is responsible for her own words. The BBC sub-editor is responsible for spinning it shamelessly to fit the BBC narrative.


    • Grant says:

      Prof. Redston is a specialist in the field whereas no-one at the BBC understands the first thing about economics, apart from their expense claims, that is.


  11. Martin says:

    Yep Radio 5 at it this morning. ‘Evil’ Tories, Alistair Darling is a guru (note Vince Cable is no longer the goto sage for the BBC it’s Darling, the man who got us into this mess) and was given the softest of interviews.

    People whining about VAT. For starters if you can afford £500 for a new TV you can afford the rise in VAT and not only that there are so many discounts run by shops the rise in VAT will be wiped out in many cases.

    Now on BBC breakfast it’s the BBC whining yet again about ‘benefits’ for breeding scum. Who cares? If you can’t afford kids, don’t breed.


    • Grant says:

      But notice that the increase is on 4 January next year. When Darling raised it last year it was 31 December with all the predictable problems. What a moron.


  12. Martin says:

    More beeboid crap, Alistair Darling got the softest of rides on Radio 5, George Osborne was interrupted and talked over quite rudely in his interview.

    Bloke on BBC breakfast from KPMG pointed out that single mothers’ and lower earners wouldn’t be worse off but more or less neutral, but this doesn’t stop the BBC simply telling lies.

    Now we have the camp male on Radio 5 stating that the Citizens Advice Bureau are ‘stating’ that many public sector workers will be WORSE off as some will lose their jobs.

    So? Can’t they get another job? Lot’s of us in the private sector do that all the time. As usual the BBC can’t understand what life is like off the teat of public money.

    Can you imagine if the Captain of the Titanic had survived the sinking and the BBC called on his every time there was a disaster as he was an ‘expert’ as disasters? So why do they now roll out Darling as some sage?


  13. Grant says:

    Just before the Budget speech BBC TV went to an office in “The City”.  Who did they interview ?  An academic and someone who works for an obscure think tank. They didn’t even interview someone who works in The City.


  14. Grant says:

    BBC website headline “Osborne defends Budget choices “. 
    From whom ?  The BBC , of course.

    I notice the FT100 is down a mere 25 points today, so far. After yesterday’s small fall, it is still near a 1- month high.  Looks like the Budget is well received in the City. Should be headline news on the BBC.


  15. Martin says:

    So despite KPMG telling the BC this morning that their much loved lower earning public sector workers and sinle mothers won’t be worse off under the new changes, the BBC still peddle the lie that they will.

    Perhaps I missed something but how many single mothers are buying 40″ plasma screen TV’s or boooking £2000 holidays?

    I wish Osborne had put 20% on VAT or rent boys, the BBC would have been reallypissed off.


    • Grant says:


      Well “rent boys ”  are personal services and subject to VAT !

      If businesses pass on the VAT rise, and my maths is correct, it would indicate a 2% increase in retail prices.


  16. Grant says:

    Just watched the “Simon Hughes Show ”  aka ” The Daily Politics “.

    No Nick Robinson !

    Short interview with Alistair Darling.  Quote  ” paying down the deficit “.  So , all that time he was Chancellor and he still doesn’t know the difference between deficit and debt. Pathetic.

    Philip Hammond was excellent as usual.  Someone who has run his own business before going into politics.

    Sadique Khan, useless as usual.

    The comedy highlight was Andrew Neil offering 2 DP mugs as opposed to 1 with the comment  ” No austerity here ”  !

    All good fun.


  17. Grant says:

    PS.  Anyone notice how seriously Simon Hughes takes himself ?

    Totally unaware that for many of us he is a joke !


  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC News Channel right now slamming Osborne for not spending money on some banking scheme for low-income people.  BBC not presenting it as yet another Labour feel-good spending scheme that was written up but left unfunded, which can now be called a Tory cut when they don’t spend money on it that you do don’t have.

    Some advocate is on saying that this is an awful thing to do to low-income people, who he says really have lots of interest in setting up bank savings accounts.  Then he says that the Tories should introduce more post offices and increase the network, as low-income people view it as a trusted institution.

    Who shut down all those post offices and reduced the network?  I forget.

    Needless to say, there was nobody on to give the Government’s side, and not even the supposedly impartial Beeboid was making an effort to at least play devil’s advocate.


  19. Martin says:

    You know I’m just gobsmacked that the BBC NEVER take former Liebour scum to task for the size of the deficit that THEY built up keeping their mates in jobs (Guardian readers).

    Just how does the BBC think we’re going to pay this money back?


  20. George R says:

    BBC ‘Newsnight’ tonight: BBC attempts to perpetuate the notion of Britain’s ”neocolonialism’ iin Sierra Leone, even though it is nothing of the kind; it is British taxpayers being made to wrongly donate ‘aid’ there,  and to the scores of other countries which are inclined to spend such money on ruling elites and the military.

    The particular perpetuator of this BBC political propaganda is the BBC’s Mr. Little:

    “Can Britain lift Sierra Leone out of poverty?”


    The irony that this BBC self-indulgent programme is being put out the day after the UK austerity Budget is hitting the living standards of millions of people in Britain is lost on the ‘Africa first’ BBC.


  21. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC still not reporting that Angela Merkel thinks The Obamessiah’s economic policies are wrong.  Coincidentally, those policies are the same ones they keep bringing on Labour has-beens to defend.


  22. Abolish the BBC says:

    Think of all those poor Afghans and Somalians about to be denied their £12k per month housing benefit in central London, someone had better call Shami for a comment.


  23. David Sanchez says:

    It was a decenrt enoguh first stab at the budget, but he could have been tougher. The key here isn’t just cutting the waste in the public sector, it is about massively reviving the private sector – far, far less red tape, and significantly reduced corporate tax rates. Osborne’s instincts are not bad, but he wasn’t bold enough to go for the jugular first time around.