38 Responses to A "TOWERING FIGURE "

  1. Scott M says:

    Or, alternatively (and far more likely) they recognise the value of irony, and credit their listeners with enough intelligence.

    Of course, on the latter point they do sometimes misjudge things.

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  2. deegee says:

    That's Brown seen as a tottering figure. Easy enough typo to make 🙂

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  3. DB says:

    So Tony Wright's view that Brown is 'seen as a towering figure' gets the headline treatment on the Today website. That would be the same Tony Wright who just happens to be the father of Today political correspondent Ben Wright.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    Has anyone seen the media interview script sent to New Labour "talking heads" http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgcf77v2_134dt4n2bf3

    I think it safe to say that the BBC got a copy aswell.

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  5. Anonymous says:

    Rejoice about just one thing that Brown will limp on for the next few months.

    He means it when he says he will hammer all publicly funded pay and expenses (even though it may just be to deflect criticism) and he has specifically targetted the BBC.

    He can have one great use before he goes, because Cameron when he becomes Prime Minister can't go back on it once the public anger grows over the massive BBC abuses.

    Be scared BBC, be very scared, your number is up.

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  6. backwoodsman says:

    The good license fee payers busy ripping Toenails a new ****hole, in the comments to his latest regurgitation from the bunker !

    Only the beeboids would have the audacity to try and pass the massive number of seats gained by the Tories as 'disapointing' . Or to allow the limp dims to claim unchallenged , that they had had a good day ! ( Beeboid default position, if labour get a kicking, talk up the limp dims !)

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  7. It's all too much says:

    Scott M

    Socialists don't do irony – if they did they would reaise what was being said about them

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  8. Paddy says:

    In a week when the labour party won no councils lost hundrds of seats and when more cabinet ministers resigned than any time since the war the head line is about towering brown and the stourton piece to camera is about blair and obama. You couldnt make it up

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  9. George R says:

    Hold the BBC 'News Front Page':-

    "Rally round PM, Labour MPs urged".

    NOTE: -at end of that piece, BBC announces:

    'Newsnight' special: 'Brown on the Brink' (BBC 2, 7:30 pm, TONIGHT.)

    Can we expect at least one of the unelected KINNOCKs to get down from their EU gravy train and to grovel on Brown's behalf for further enriching the Kinnock family?

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  10. will2001 says:

    Humphrys in that interview with Tony Wright did at least raise Brown's thuggish tendencies. Wright thought Humphrys was referring to Flint, but Humphrys pointed out it was Barry Sheerman who had been subject to Brown's intimidation. As a fellow Common's Committee chairman one might have expected Sheerman & Wright to be buddies. But Wright had no response to Humphrys. The "Towering Figure" remains.

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  11. Allan@Aberdeen says:

    Don't forget that Gordon Brown has on several occasions been referred to by reporters as a "towering intellect" (true – google 'Gordon Brown towering intellect'). Now from the perspective of most reporters, Gordon Brown probably is a towering intellect. But Gordon Brown did his first degree in History and his doctoral thesis on some little-known marxist from Fife. It means that the last numeracy challenge he had was his 'O'-level Arithmetic when he was 16. This explains how such a 'towering intellect' was able to wreck our economy, ruin our pensions, flog off our gold reserves at bargain price to China and India, and how the Budget has such complexity that it overloads the ability of accountants to comprehend it.
    (BTW, from google, check the BNP's assessment of Gordon Brown's towering intellect – it is what every reporter should read)

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  12. Anonymous says:

    Browns diabolical performance as "Chancellor" had nothing to do with intellect or maths, both of which he lacks, but just a desire to wreck all things English. He hopes to become Scotland's hero, he might to some for a short time, until the money dries up. No English money, end of Scotland as well.

    Derek

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  13. Red Lepond says:

    I didn't know they stacked shit that high.

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  14. Dan says:

    It's a quote David. That's why it's in quote marks. When something positive about the Tories is in quote marks you claim it's bias against them. When something positive about Labour is in quote marks it's biased in their favour. Go figure.

    I think it's you who needs to open your eyes. Wark ripped Hain apart on Newsnight yesterday, and as Iain Dale has pointed out Robinson was in no way complimentary about Brown's press conference performance.

    What happened to you being a liability to the site by the way? Changed your mind? You're no better than Caroline Flint.

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  15. anon126 says:

    this towering figure, according to the Beeb, is the only major party to have 2 of their candadates beaten by the Monster Raving Loony's in Cambrdige during the local elections.

    Regardless of what the Beeb are spinning this is not the result that a towering figure gets.

    they are finished.

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  16. David Vance says:

    Hi Dan,

    Thanks for the warm welcome back. Wwark did nothing of the sort, and I watched it. Hain was allowed to have the first and last word and the motif was once again how Conservative support had fallen.

    Face it – the BBC is institutionally in favour of left wing politics and if it's not Gordon they are trying to prop up, it's the pathetic Lib-Dems.

    Bias – so deep, so profound, that they along with their acolytes, don't even see it.

    Now – have you any point to make or is it just more waffle?

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  17. joc says:

    Gosh – Did he really just call it "Obama" beach just now (the D-Day commemorations).

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  18. Dan says:

    Yes David I made several points which you ignored. I'll list them if it makes it easier.

    1)When something positive about the Tories is in quote marks you claim it's bias against them. When something positive about Labour is in quote marks it's biased in their favour. Please explain.

    2) As Iain Dale has pointed out Robinson was in no way complimentary about Brown's awful press conference performance.

    3) What happened to you being a liability to the site by? Have you changed your mind?

    4) Returning to the Hain interview – it seems you were watching something else. Wark took a very hard line of questioning and Hain did not come out of the interview at all well – he seemed totally clueless and flummoxed by her questions.

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  19. Anonymous says:

    joc, yes he did!

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  20. Fragmeister says:

    BBC website and Radio 5 news said Labour lost 270-odd seats. Sky puts it at over 300. Who is right?

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  21. Peter says:

    joc said…
    Gosh – Did he really just call it "Obama" beach just now (the D-Day commemorations).
    2:53 PM, June 06, 2009

    Slip of the brain, probs. But maybe he was just 'doing' irony, as it is well in vogue these days at the expense of being clear. Apparently.

    So… so long as you put it in quotes, one thing can be anything else.

    'Black' is white. See. Simples!

    Good for subjective satire… for objective news outlets… not so much, perhaps?

    And, speaking of irony, one just had to love Mr. Brown using the occasion to speak of the need to sacrifice everything (well, these days mainly cannon fodder in the form of the voting – while they still have it – public) to challenge deluded dictators only kept in place when all is lost by their coterie of beholden hangers-on.

    Mr. Kinnock's 'defence' on SKY was… classic. But maybe he was doing irony too?

    Were that we had on hand at all times a BBabel fish to interpret what comes forth from the bunker and its communications stations.

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  22. Craig says:

    Fragmeister,

    I think there must be still more results to come (though why I don't know) as ITN News's website is 'projecting' 300 losses for Labour too.

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  23. Martin says:

    Of course everyone has MISSED the most vile thing of all.

    Peter Mandelson is NOW deputy PM. not only that, if McSnot were forced to step down Mandelson would be PM until a new leader elected.

    Hattie Hatemenperson has been pushed sideways.

    I strongly expect to see Mandelson now try to force Brown out. This is all about the camp queen's own vanity in wanting to be PM.

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  24. Craig says:

    I recorded C4 News last night & have only just watched it.

    As has been said by wise heads on this site before, Channel 4's Jon Snow may be a die-hard leftie but he can still teach the BBC a thing or two about impartiality. His programme last night was so refreshing after all the BBC's superficiality & bias.

    Unlike the BBC, it gave reasons (obvious if you think about it) why the Conservative share of the vote dropped, even though it now runs almost every council in the country. I saw no-one on the BBC set this statistic in context. They were too busy trying to take a crumb of comfort from it (a crumb for Labour).

    Harriet Harperson was interview robustly. A Tory (Eric Pickles) was interviewed too. I seem to have been seeing only Labour people today on the BBC, so it was nice to be reminded that there are other political parties out there.

    Well done Jon Snow & down with the biased BBC!

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  25. JohnA says:

    Craig

    When Channel 4 News was set up it was deliberate plocy that it should have a leftward slant.

    The then CEO of Channel 4 stated this as the policy.

    At least they were honest.

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  26. DB says:

    Towering figure: "Obama Beach".

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  27. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Yes, it's a quote from Tony Wright, but how pathetic that this is the one line the BBC takes from the whole segment. And Humphrys should have challenged him on saying that Mr. Brown is seen as a towering figure "around the world". What a joke.

    The topic of the piece was Labour's difficulties, and there were plenty of good quotes from Wright and the the people in Nottinghamshire, but instead the sub-editor picked the most outrageous, but most supportive to Brown. It was practically the only pro-Brown statement in the whole thing as well, so it's a bit suspicious that this is what they chose to headline the segment.

    Aside from that, the Narrative continues that Labour's local disasters were due to the expenses scandal and disloyal Cabinet members, and not due to people's disenchantment with Labour in general. They don't love the Tories, says Wright, with no question from Humphrys.

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  28. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Mr. Brown's "Obama Beach" gaffe is the top item on Drudge right now, which means it will soon be all over the place.

    It's not a big deal, not a sign that Mr. Brown worships The Obamessiah like they do at the BBC or anything. It's just a simple, amusing slip up, the kind that the BBC loves to repeat endlessly when it's a Conservative politician. As a recent example, they found at least three different ways to highlight Boris's slip in the water, two of them seriously misleading so as to make him seem even more ridiculous. It was up on the main UK news page almost all day as well.

    So far, there is no clip of Brown's error available on the BBC website, at least not yet, and not that I can find. Will they hide it? If there is a clip of the whole speech, then I'm sure nobody would dare point it out.

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  29. David Vance says:

    BBC keeping quiet about Obama Beach.

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  30. Deborah says:

    Dan at 3.30

    I had to agree that

    'Hain did not come out of the interview at all well – he seemed totally clueless and flummoxed by her questions.'

    but it wasn't because Wark took a very hard line of questioning – it seemed it was just because she asked him the obvious questions that had to be asked – but he certainly didn't look thrilled to be back in cabinet.

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  31. David Vance says:

    Dan,

    "Totally clueless and flummoxed" is the default Hain position. You appear to believe otherwise so I suggest you familiarise yourself with him a little more.

    Not sure why you think I take a pro-Conservative line given my huge concerns re Cameron.

    The fact that Iain Dale points something out does not make it Holy Writ. No one, not even groveller Robinson, could have done otherwise (although the Talksports guy did kinda do his best but then we know there is a BBC influence there these days, right?)

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  32. Anonymous says:

    David, the BBC can see it.

    I was listening to 5 Live this morning when Spelman was being interviwed by some new twonk called Singh. First question -'Yesterday was a bad day for the Tory party as you failed to reach the 40% poll you need to win the next election..bla, bla'

    20 minutes later, News 24, Spelman again and another Labour paying member of the BBC staff. EXACTLT the same question, first up!

    The more Brown and ZaNu Labour get buried, the more they are reliant on their media operation, the BBC. The bias is simply getting so obvious even my 17 year old has noticed it – it's Sky News for her from now on.

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  33. JohnA says:

    Dan

    Putting quottion marks round the words "Towering figure" does not make the quote any less ridiculous.

    Anyone making that quote deserves rificule, a Bronx wave, a big raspberry, it is total boll..x.

    Only the credulous BBC would think such a remark worth using in a headline. The decent thing would have been to pretend not to hear the remark.

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  34. David Preiser (USA) says:

    JohnA,

    It's a "Bronx cheer".

    < /pedantry>

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  35. Anonymous says:

    Goliath was also a towering figure, yet it didn't stop David beheading HIM !

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  36. hippiepooter says:

    (BTW, from google, check the BNP's assessment of Gordon Brown's towering intellect – it is what every reporter should read)

    Allan@Aberdeen 12:56 PM, June 06, 2009

    Allan, you might wish to habit the mileus of Nazi scum, I do not.

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  37. Dan says:

    David

    The reference to Iain Dale was using a secondary to support my own observations. I'm glad you accept that Robinson was critical of Brown's conference however, but wonder how this fits in with your pressing narrative of BBC Bias.

    I am perfectly familiar with Hain, but it was Wark's line of questioning that left him so confused in this interview.

    I understand you seem to have concerns that Cameron is not right wing enough, concerns I don't share – I largely support his position. However, your concerns make the offence you take when someone from the BBC asks the Conservatives tough questions extremely bemusing.

    To John A – you seem to be suggesting that having invited Wright in the BBC should then have ignored what he said. Very strange. Is that your idea of balance?

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  38. happyuk07 says:

    LOL that will be their bias by omission at work again. They failed to tack "about to topple" on the end!

    Brown has got two hopes: no hope and Bob Hope.

    Such bunker mentality from lefties that cannot take defeat on the chin is a pleasure to behold.

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