TUESDAY OPEN THREAD

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  1. Swiss Bob says:

    David,

    As I said before, nice design and I totally agree with you about ‘work in progress’. For my own part I have been constantly re designing my sites and hopefully they get better and better, there are always new things to try and problems that need to be solved. Things like the different ways Firefox, Chrome and IE deal with certain code. My site looked dreadful in Chrome until I checked it.

    For those interested I ‘Live Chat’ the Daily Politics on the BBC every day, including PMQ’s on Wednesdays, for those who find Guido’s gaff a little too busy. The Daily Politics.

    My other site is SMUNAF written by a number of authors. It’s similar in design because I like the three column format and the things that work apply to both. The menu bar is a bit crap but it is as they say, a work in progress.

    I also have the Starkey videos if anyone hasn’t seen them yet. See you Thursday night for QT.

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  2. Swiss Bob says:

    David,

    As I said before, nice design and I totally agree with you about ‘work in progress’. For my own part I have been constantly re designing my sites and hopefully they get better and better, there are always new things to try and problems that need to be solved. Things like the different ways Firefox, Chrome and IE deal with certain code. My site looked dreadful in Chrome until I checked it.

    For those interested I ‘Live Chat’ the Daily Politics on the BBC every day, including PMQ’s on Wednesdays, for those who find Guido’s gaff a little too busy. The Daily Politics.

    My other site is SMUNAF written by a number of authors. It’s similar in design because I like the three column format and the things that work apply to both. The menu bar is a bit crap but it is as they say, a work in progress.

    I also have the Starkey videos if anyone hasn’t seen them yet. See you Thursday night for QT.

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  3. Swiss Bob says:

    David,

    As I said before, nice design and I totally agree with you about ‘work in progress’. For my own part I have been constantly re designing my sites and hopefully they get better and better, there are always new things to try and problems that need to be solved. Things like the different ways Firefox, Chrome and IE deal with certain code. My site looked dreadful in Chrome until I checked it.

    For those interested I ‘Live Chat’ the Daily Politics on the BBC every day, including PMQ’s on Wednesdays, for those who find Guido’s gaff a little too busy. The Daily Politics.

    My other site is SMUNAF written by a number of authors. It’s similar in design because I like the three column format and the things that work apply to both. The menu bar is a bit crap but it is as they say, a work in progress.

    I also have the Starkey videos if anyone hasn’t seen them yet. See you Thursday night for QT.

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  4. Swiss Bob says:

    David,

    As I said before, nice design and I totally agree with you about ‘work in progress’. For my own part I have been constantly re designing my sites and hopefully they get better and better, there are always new things to try and problems that need to be solved. Things like the different ways Firefox, Chrome and IE deal with certain code. My site looked dreadful in Chrome until I checked it.

    For those interested I ‘Live Chat’ the Daily Politics on the BBC every day, including PMQ’s on Wednesdays, for those who find Guido’s gaff a little too busy. The Daily Politics.

    My other site is SMUNAF written by a number of authors. It’s similar in design because I like the three column format and the things that work apply to both. The menu bar is a bit crap but it is as they say, a work in progress.

    I also have the Starkey videos if anyone hasn’t seen them yet. See you Thursday night for QT.

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  5. Anonymous says:

    When is the bbc going to mention something about the Dieudonne trial that started today in Paris? He is the “comedian” charged with anti-semitism.

    BTW, what’s all this typing strange characters and choosing an {D on this site? Bloody cumbersome and will put people off!

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  6. Anonymous says:

    When is the bbc going to mention something about the Dieudonne trial that started today in Paris? He is the “comedian” charged with anti-semitism.

    BTW, what’s all this typing strange characters and choosing an {D on this site? Bloody cumbersome and will put people off!

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  7. Anonymous says:

    When is the bbc going to mention something about the Dieudonne trial that started today in Paris? He is the “comedian” charged with anti-semitism.

    BTW, what’s all this typing strange characters and choosing an {D on this site? Bloody cumbersome and will put people off!

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  8. Anonymous says:

    When is the bbc going to mention something about the Dieudonne trial that started today in Paris? He is the “comedian” charged with anti-semitism.

    BTW, what’s all this typing strange characters and choosing an {D on this site? Bloody cumbersome and will put people off!

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  9. Gerald Brown says:

    It’s taking an awful long time to fix Have Your Say isn’t it.

    It spoils the whole idea when you cannot “recommend” so that the majority feeling on the subject cannot easily be ascertained. Oh wait a minute, perhaps that is the idea!

    Now using a second computer system and still cannot maximise the messages. Most frustrating for a basically techno-phobe.

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  10. JohnBosworth says:

    CRYING WOLF: for over ten years the “marriage hit by US military” has run almost every month. Whenever the west has hit the bad guys, reporters have trotted out the “bombs hit a wedding party killing innocent civilians” plot line. The accusations, reported as fact, have almost all been proved false.

    So when I saw a “wedding party hit by bombers story today I thought, “here we go again”…but this time it was real:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8032970.stm

    The danger of crying wolf is that when something real happens we (the general public) won’t believe it. This applies to war, peace and the dreaded lurgi (swine flu, SARS, West Nile Virus etc etc).

    When the wolf does arrive at the door no-one will believe the media outlets like BBC. That is the damage that has been done to journalistic credibility.

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  11. Gerald Brown says:

    It’s taking an awful long time to fix Have Your Say isn’t it.

    It spoils the whole idea when you cannot “recommend” so that the majority feeling on the subject cannot easily be ascertained. Oh wait a minute, perhaps that is the idea!

    Now using a second computer system and still cannot maximise the messages. Most frustrating for a basically techno-phobe.

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  12. JohnBosworth says:

    CRYING WOLF: for over ten years the “marriage hit by US military” has run almost every month. Whenever the west has hit the bad guys, reporters have trotted out the “bombs hit a wedding party killing innocent civilians” plot line. The accusations, reported as fact, have almost all been proved false.

    So when I saw a “wedding party hit by bombers story today I thought, “here we go again”…but this time it was real:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8032970.stm

    The danger of crying wolf is that when something real happens we (the general public) won’t believe it. This applies to war, peace and the dreaded lurgi (swine flu, SARS, West Nile Virus etc etc).

    When the wolf does arrive at the door no-one will believe the media outlets like BBC. That is the damage that has been done to journalistic credibility.

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  13. Gerald Brown says:

    It’s taking an awful long time to fix Have Your Say isn’t it.

    It spoils the whole idea when you cannot “recommend” so that the majority feeling on the subject cannot easily be ascertained. Oh wait a minute, perhaps that is the idea!

    Now using a second computer system and still cannot maximise the messages. Most frustrating for a basically techno-phobe.

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  14. JohnBosworth says:

    CRYING WOLF: for over ten years the “marriage hit by US military” has run almost every month. Whenever the west has hit the bad guys, reporters have trotted out the “bombs hit a wedding party killing innocent civilians” plot line. The accusations, reported as fact, have almost all been proved false.

    So when I saw a “wedding party hit by bombers story today I thought, “here we go again”…but this time it was real:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8032970.stm

    The danger of crying wolf is that when something real happens we (the general public) won’t believe it. This applies to war, peace and the dreaded lurgi (swine flu, SARS, West Nile Virus etc etc).

    When the wolf does arrive at the door no-one will believe the media outlets like BBC. That is the damage that has been done to journalistic credibility.

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  15. Gerald Brown says:

    It’s taking an awful long time to fix Have Your Say isn’t it.

    It spoils the whole idea when you cannot “recommend” so that the majority feeling on the subject cannot easily be ascertained. Oh wait a minute, perhaps that is the idea!

    Now using a second computer system and still cannot maximise the messages. Most frustrating for a basically techno-phobe.

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  16. JohnBosworth says:

    CRYING WOLF: for over ten years the “marriage hit by US military” has run almost every month. Whenever the west has hit the bad guys, reporters have trotted out the “bombs hit a wedding party killing innocent civilians” plot line. The accusations, reported as fact, have almost all been proved false.

    So when I saw a “wedding party hit by bombers story today I thought, “here we go again”…but this time it was real:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8032970.stm

    The danger of crying wolf is that when something real happens we (the general public) won’t believe it. This applies to war, peace and the dreaded lurgi (swine flu, SARS, West Nile Virus etc etc).

    When the wolf does arrive at the door no-one will believe the media outlets like BBC. That is the damage that has been done to journalistic credibility.

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  17. Gerald Brown says:

    Craig – yesterday’s open thread.

    I believe that on The Westminster Hour the presenter said that the Conservative viewpoint on EUrope would be on next week. It will be interesting to compare the line up and questioning approach!

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  18. Gerald Brown says:

    Craig – yesterday’s open thread.

    I believe that on The Westminster Hour the presenter said that the Conservative viewpoint on EUrope would be on next week. It will be interesting to compare the line up and questioning approach!

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  19. Gerald Brown says:

    Craig – yesterday’s open thread.

    I believe that on The Westminster Hour the presenter said that the Conservative viewpoint on EUrope would be on next week. It will be interesting to compare the line up and questioning approach!

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  20. Gerald Brown says:

    Craig – yesterday’s open thread.

    I believe that on The Westminster Hour the presenter said that the Conservative viewpoint on EUrope would be on next week. It will be interesting to compare the line up and questioning approach!

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  21. Anonymous says:

    BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ had a lightweight discussion on the Taliban in Pakistan.

    Neither the Pakistan government, nor the UK Labour government, nor the BBC understand the motivation of the Taliban, i.e., Islamic Jihad.

    In contrast, ‘Jihadwatch’ (4 May), rightly points to this motivation, and points to the error of Obama’s notion of a ‘moderate’ Taliban:

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    “Taliban: Swat deal is over”

    [Extract]:

    “For the record, that’s the ‘deal’ Western leaders supported as a model for the way ahead. A little more than two months later, turned out it was merely a delay-tactic by the Taliban who, far from being content with sharia rule in a specific location, are, true to jihadi imperatives, more interested in expansion, in the words of the Koran, ’till Allah’s word is supreme’ (8:39). So much for Obama’s call to reach out to ‘moderate’ Taliban.” (‘Jihadwatch’ May 4.)

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  22. Anonymous says:

    BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ had a lightweight discussion on the Taliban in Pakistan.

    Neither the Pakistan government, nor the UK Labour government, nor the BBC understand the motivation of the Taliban, i.e., Islamic Jihad.

    In contrast, ‘Jihadwatch’ (4 May), rightly points to this motivation, and points to the error of Obama’s notion of a ‘moderate’ Taliban:

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    “Taliban: Swat deal is over”

    [Extract]:

    “For the record, that’s the ‘deal’ Western leaders supported as a model for the way ahead. A little more than two months later, turned out it was merely a delay-tactic by the Taliban who, far from being content with sharia rule in a specific location, are, true to jihadi imperatives, more interested in expansion, in the words of the Koran, ’till Allah’s word is supreme’ (8:39). So much for Obama’s call to reach out to ‘moderate’ Taliban.” (‘Jihadwatch’ May 4.)

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  23. Anonymous says:

    BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ had a lightweight discussion on the Taliban in Pakistan.

    Neither the Pakistan government, nor the UK Labour government, nor the BBC understand the motivation of the Taliban, i.e., Islamic Jihad.

    In contrast, ‘Jihadwatch’ (4 May), rightly points to this motivation, and points to the error of Obama’s notion of a ‘moderate’ Taliban:

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    “Taliban: Swat deal is over”

    [Extract]:

    “For the record, that’s the ‘deal’ Western leaders supported as a model for the way ahead. A little more than two months later, turned out it was merely a delay-tactic by the Taliban who, far from being content with sharia rule in a specific location, are, true to jihadi imperatives, more interested in expansion, in the words of the Koran, ’till Allah’s word is supreme’ (8:39). So much for Obama’s call to reach out to ‘moderate’ Taliban.” (‘Jihadwatch’ May 4.)

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  24. Anonymous says:

    BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ had a lightweight discussion on the Taliban in Pakistan.

    Neither the Pakistan government, nor the UK Labour government, nor the BBC understand the motivation of the Taliban, i.e., Islamic Jihad.

    In contrast, ‘Jihadwatch’ (4 May), rightly points to this motivation, and points to the error of Obama’s notion of a ‘moderate’ Taliban:

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    “Taliban: Swat deal is over”

    [Extract]:

    “For the record, that’s the ‘deal’ Western leaders supported as a model for the way ahead. A little more than two months later, turned out it was merely a delay-tactic by the Taliban who, far from being content with sharia rule in a specific location, are, true to jihadi imperatives, more interested in expansion, in the words of the Koran, ’till Allah’s word is supreme’ (8:39). So much for Obama’s call to reach out to ‘moderate’ Taliban.” (‘Jihadwatch’ May 4.)

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  25. Anonymous says:

    New web site format is to fussy and now it takes to long to load up.
    Do we have to have all that red tape before making a comment?
    I will never register with that Lefty organisation Google

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  26. Anonymous says:

    New web site format is to fussy and now it takes to long to load up.
    Do we have to have all that red tape before making a comment?
    I will never register with that Lefty organisation Google

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  27. Anonymous says:

    New web site format is to fussy and now it takes to long to load up.
    Do we have to have all that red tape before making a comment?
    I will never register with that Lefty organisation Google

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  28. Anonymous says:

    New web site format is to fussy and now it takes to long to load up.
    Do we have to have all that red tape before making a comment?
    I will never register with that Lefty organisation Google

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  29. not a Tangled Web says:

    I find the new site difficult to load too.

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  30. not a Tangled Web says:

    I find the new site difficult to load too.

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  31. not a Tangled Web says:

    I find the new site difficult to load too.

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  32. not a Tangled Web says:

    I find the new site difficult to load too.

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  33. DB says:

    Introducing Generic.

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  34. DB says:

    Introducing Generic.

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  35. DB says:

    Introducing Generic.

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  36. DB says:

    Introducing Generic.

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  37. JohnBosworth says:

    Watch this YouTube clip

    The money quote is at 1’58”

    Frei and Webb at the BBC must be really pissed.

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  38. Anonymous says:

    I am still waiting for our state broadcaster to mention the almost incredible tale of the Baroness who lives in a Tower Hamlets social house to which she is not (financially) entitled and also claims for an empty flat in Kent. Can’t they pretend just for once that this lady is a Conservative Peer and go absolutely hysterical, as usual?

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  39. JohnA says:

    How can we post a link – that people can click on to move to the linked URL ?

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  40. David Preiser says:

    DB,

    Change the accent, and your “Generic” comedian could be any number of US comedians and talk show hosts.

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  41. Abandon Ship! says:

    Pull the other one Hugh:

    In response to Oliver Kamm’s query about the remarks by Sykes on the Iraq war:

    http://timesonline.typepad.com/oliver_kamm/

    Sykes writes in the comments:

    “My BBC contract doesn’t allow me to say what I actually think about the Iraq war and its aftermath, but I can say that my opinions after six years of regular reporting from Iraq are varied and complex, and certainly not simplistically ‘for’ or ‘against’.”

    Just as well he wasn’t hooked up to a lie-detector machine when he wrote this.

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  42. David Preiser says:

    James Reynolds has an utterly bizarre and frightening piece on David Miliband, “dangerous climate change” and Chinese farmers.

    The right qualifications

    I can’t tell if Reynolds is getting in a sly dig against the BBC “consensus” or what. He points out that the Chinese like to have people with actual relevant qualifications in charge of government departments, and Miliband has none.

    He even repeats Miliband’s defense: “Your basic point about me – that I’m not a scientist – maybe that is one aspect of politics in Britain, which is that people get appointed to jobs where they don’t necessarily have expertise. But what do I hope to try and bring to this?… I hope that the skill politicians have – the only skill maybe – is the ability to try and persuade people.”Sounds like the Chinese know better. Except, listening to the short interview, Miliband says something extremely frightening about how climate change is so dangerous that people in Guilford (for example) will have to restrict their lifestyles so they’re more like Chinese farmers living on two dollars a day.

    When will a BBC employee ever come out and ask what sort of carbon-friendly lifestyle Miliband and his co-religionists actually envision? By letting it always remain a soft, distant view of some hazy, happy lifestyle that isn’t “dangerous”, the BBC fails to really provide the viewers with vital information which will truly affect their lives, and the lives of their children.

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  43. robert says:

    While there’s still the chance to comment using name/url, can I just ask someone how on earth one comments when that facility is snatched away again?
    Any chance of remedying the 2 outstanding hitches with the new design – viz, the ‘unread comments’ counter and the inability to maximise the comments box?

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  44. Anonymous says:

    For information of BBC, which seems to be oblivious to this story:

    ‘Evening Standard’:

    “Well-off Labour peer is a social housing tenant”

    [Extract]:

    “The Labour peer at the centre of the latest parliamentary allowances row is a social housing tenant who appears to have benefited from a second taxpayer subsidy on her London home.

    “Baroness Uddin already faces accusations of profiteering after reports she claimed £100,000 in Lords allowances by designating an empty flat in Maidstone as her main residence.”

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  45. DB says:

    Yet another “What if Bush had said it” moment for the BBC to ignore (and Bush wouldn’t have got this wrong because he actually speaks Spanish).

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  46. GCooper says:

    The fact that the BBC refuses to publish stories such as the shocking revelations about ‘Baroness’ Uddin confirms the Corporation’s complete redundancy as a news medium.

    If the BBC actively censors stories it finds politically unpalatable it is no use at all. To anyone. If you have to go elsewhere to find a complete news feed – why ever go to the BBC?

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