MONDAY OPEN THREAD

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  1. Craig says:

    God, I hate the Beeb!
    Radio 4's ‘Westminster Hour’ discussed Europe last night and shows BBC bias at its most disgraceful, following in the ‘World at One’s shocking footsteps (Tom, Sunday Afternoon, 1.39 pm)

    There was a chat with resident Euro-fanatic Simon Hicks of the LSE. He put the expected case for the importance and value of the European Parliament.

    Next came a European-election-related discussion with Chris Davies of the Euro-fanatic Lib Dems, Euro-fanatic Labour MP Denis MacShane and Nigel Farage of UKIP. Nigel was excellent value, but had to put up not only with repeated attacks from the odious MacShane and Mr Davies, but also from presenter Carolyn Quinn. She asked him – and only him – hard questions, & tried in one of those questions to link UKIP with the BNP. (Chris Davies, to his credit, defended Mr Farage).

    There were also sustained attacks on the Conservatives from all three guests, but as no Conservative was invited to appear on the panel, they went unanswered. One of those attacks was made by the odious MacShane, and was a deliberate smear against the Tories. (and part, it seems, of a Labour-party strategy of which I think we are going to hear a lot more). He accused them of being prepared to sit with a “gay-bashing” party in Poland, using that phrase more than once. I repeat, no Conservative was invited to appear on the panel, & the attack went unanswered.

    Why was there no Conservative? Why only Nigel? Is there some unwritten BBC rule than there must only be one right-of-centre guest in any panel discussion?

    They make me sick, & it's too still early in the day for a big glass of wine.

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  2. Craig says:

    God, I hate the Beeb!
    Radio 4's ‘Westminster Hour’ discussed Europe last night and shows BBC bias at its most disgraceful, following in the ‘World at One’s shocking footsteps (Tom, Sunday Afternoon, 1.39 pm)

    There was a chat with resident Euro-fanatic Simon Hicks of the LSE. He put the expected case for the importance and value of the European Parliament.

    Next came a European-election-related discussion with Chris Davies of the Euro-fanatic Lib Dems, Euro-fanatic Labour MP Denis MacShane and Nigel Farage of UKIP. Nigel was excellent value, but had to put up not only with repeated attacks from the odious MacShane and Mr Davies, but also from presenter Carolyn Quinn. She asked him – and only him – hard questions, & tried in one of those questions to link UKIP with the BNP. (Chris Davies, to his credit, defended Mr Farage).

    There were also sustained attacks on the Conservatives from all three guests, but as no Conservative was invited to appear on the panel, they went unanswered. One of those attacks was made by the odious MacShane, and was a deliberate smear against the Tories. (and part, it seems, of a Labour-party strategy of which I think we are going to hear a lot more). He accused them of being prepared to sit with a “gay-bashing” party in Poland, using that phrase more than once. I repeat, no Conservative was invited to appear on the panel, & the attack went unanswered.

    Why was there no Conservative? Why only Nigel? Is there some unwritten BBC rule than there must only be one right-of-centre guest in any panel discussion?

    They make me sick, & it's too still early in the day for a big glass of wine.

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  3. Craig says:

    God, I hate the Beeb!
    Radio 4's ‘Westminster Hour’ discussed Europe last night and shows BBC bias at its most disgraceful, following in the ‘World at One’s shocking footsteps (Tom, Sunday Afternoon, 1.39 pm)

    There was a chat with resident Euro-fanatic Simon Hicks of the LSE. He put the expected case for the importance and value of the European Parliament.

    Next came a European-election-related discussion with Chris Davies of the Euro-fanatic Lib Dems, Euro-fanatic Labour MP Denis MacShane and Nigel Farage of UKIP. Nigel was excellent value, but had to put up not only with repeated attacks from the odious MacShane and Mr Davies, but also from presenter Carolyn Quinn. She asked him – and only him – hard questions, & tried in one of those questions to link UKIP with the BNP. (Chris Davies, to his credit, defended Mr Farage).

    There were also sustained attacks on the Conservatives from all three guests, but as no Conservative was invited to appear on the panel, they went unanswered. One of those attacks was made by the odious MacShane, and was a deliberate smear against the Tories. (and part, it seems, of a Labour-party strategy of which I think we are going to hear a lot more). He accused them of being prepared to sit with a “gay-bashing” party in Poland, using that phrase more than once. I repeat, no Conservative was invited to appear on the panel, & the attack went unanswered.

    Why was there no Conservative? Why only Nigel? Is there some unwritten BBC rule than there must only be one right-of-centre guest in any panel discussion?

    They make me sick, & it's too still early in the day for a big glass of wine.

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  4. GCooper says:

    There is something very strange happening at the BBC. Where, in the past, the LibDems would have been elevated to the position of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition and ZaNuLabour would, of course, have been given the lion’s share – at least there would have been a small Conservative presence on R4’s current affairs and news programmes.

    Now, as we approach the Euro elections, it appears someone has tossed the BBC’s telephone book out of the window.

    It is so blatant, so completely transparent that I even find myself wondering if Tory HQ has taken the phone off the hook.

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  5. GCooper says:

    There is something very strange happening at the BBC. Where, in the past, the LibDems would have been elevated to the position of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition and ZaNuLabour would, of course, have been given the lion’s share – at least there would have been a small Conservative presence on R4’s current affairs and news programmes.

    Now, as we approach the Euro elections, it appears someone has tossed the BBC’s telephone book out of the window.

    It is so blatant, so completely transparent that I even find myself wondering if Tory HQ has taken the phone off the hook.

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  6. GCooper says:

    There is something very strange happening at the BBC. Where, in the past, the LibDems would have been elevated to the position of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition and ZaNuLabour would, of course, have been given the lion’s share – at least there would have been a small Conservative presence on R4’s current affairs and news programmes.

    Now, as we approach the Euro elections, it appears someone has tossed the BBC’s telephone book out of the window.

    It is so blatant, so completely transparent that I even find myself wondering if Tory HQ has taken the phone off the hook.

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  7. cassandra says:

    The BBC comrades are very upset about their former global warming poster boy Kevin(I enjoy bullying young girls & making them cry)Rudd has done the unthinkable and delayed the suicidal 'cap'N'trade' fiasco, of course the BBC welcomes all opinions doesnt it? so we are treated to a whinging prat saying the mothballing is only temporary and a ecofanatic who thinks the worlds gonna end and thats yer lot matey/comrade!
    Just imagining the BBC comrades tut tutting with faces like they have just been sucking on a pile of lemons made my day and made me smile.
    It seems that Mr Rudd isnt flavour of the month anymore with the latte comrades, oooooh dear how very sad!

    NOTE TO BEEBOID DROIDS:

    You aint seen nuthin yet comrades, just wait a spell cos all youre gonna hear/see soon is the lovely sound of your beloved marxist/watermellon/ecomentalist policies being tipped into the trash can!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha bloody ha!

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  8. cassandra says:

    The BBC comrades are very upset about their former global warming poster boy Kevin(I enjoy bullying young girls & making them cry)Rudd has done the unthinkable and delayed the suicidal 'cap'N'trade' fiasco, of course the BBC welcomes all opinions doesnt it? so we are treated to a whinging prat saying the mothballing is only temporary and a ecofanatic who thinks the worlds gonna end and thats yer lot matey/comrade!
    Just imagining the BBC comrades tut tutting with faces like they have just been sucking on a pile of lemons made my day and made me smile.
    It seems that Mr Rudd isnt flavour of the month anymore with the latte comrades, oooooh dear how very sad!

    NOTE TO BEEBOID DROIDS:

    You aint seen nuthin yet comrades, just wait a spell cos all youre gonna hear/see soon is the lovely sound of your beloved marxist/watermellon/ecomentalist policies being tipped into the trash can!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha bloody ha!

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  9. cassandra says:

    The BBC comrades are very upset about their former global warming poster boy Kevin(I enjoy bullying young girls & making them cry)Rudd has done the unthinkable and delayed the suicidal 'cap'N'trade' fiasco, of course the BBC welcomes all opinions doesnt it? so we are treated to a whinging prat saying the mothballing is only temporary and a ecofanatic who thinks the worlds gonna end and thats yer lot matey/comrade!
    Just imagining the BBC comrades tut tutting with faces like they have just been sucking on a pile of lemons made my day and made me smile.
    It seems that Mr Rudd isnt flavour of the month anymore with the latte comrades, oooooh dear how very sad!

    NOTE TO BEEBOID DROIDS:

    You aint seen nuthin yet comrades, just wait a spell cos all youre gonna hear/see soon is the lovely sound of your beloved marxist/watermellon/ecomentalist policies being tipped into the trash can!

    ha ha ha ha ha ha bloody ha!

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  10. Allan D says:

    I see that Hattie Harperson was given a 15-minute one-to-one interview by Victoria from Derbyshire on 5 Dead this morning sandwiched between a discussion on the sats tests. No listener comments, no direct listener questions on what is risibly a phone-in programme and certainly no comment from any of the opposition parties just the fragrant Hattie expressing her undying loyalty to the Dear Leader plus a little concern for her constituent facing the firing squad in Laos (I should start getting the blindfold ready).

    Save the Gordon! The BBC- shamelessly pursuing a lost cause – this is what we do.

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  11. Allan D says:

    I see that Hattie Harperson was given a 15-minute one-to-one interview by Victoria from Derbyshire on 5 Dead this morning sandwiched between a discussion on the sats tests. No listener comments, no direct listener questions on what is risibly a phone-in programme and certainly no comment from any of the opposition parties just the fragrant Hattie expressing her undying loyalty to the Dear Leader plus a little concern for her constituent facing the firing squad in Laos (I should start getting the blindfold ready).

    Save the Gordon! The BBC- shamelessly pursuing a lost cause – this is what we do.

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  12. Allan D says:

    I see that Hattie Harperson was given a 15-minute one-to-one interview by Victoria from Derbyshire on 5 Dead this morning sandwiched between a discussion on the sats tests. No listener comments, no direct listener questions on what is risibly a phone-in programme and certainly no comment from any of the opposition parties just the fragrant Hattie expressing her undying loyalty to the Dear Leader plus a little concern for her constituent facing the firing squad in Laos (I should start getting the blindfold ready).

    Save the Gordon! The BBC- shamelessly pursuing a lost cause – this is what we do.

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  13. The Omega Man says:

    A bit late, but Thursday 30 April there was BBC4 program on food technology (TimeShift: Farm to Pharma – The Rise and Rise of Food Science)

    Not very promising ground for BBC bias, you may may well imagine? Well, I did learn from the program that a leading member of the Lyons research team that developed soft-scoop ice cream was a certain chemistry graduate called Margaret Roberts.

    A talking head (can’t remember who) then goes on to decry the typical “ruthlessness” of Thatcher replacing traditional ice cream made with cream and eggs with a manufactured product consisting one third air. Can’t find anyone these days to say a good thing about soft scoop ice cream, it seems.

    Then the narrator informs us Margaret leaves her research career for one in politics. The voice over, heavy in sarcasm, intones that Lyons’s loss was the country’s “gain”?!.

    So casual in their contempt, it pervades all their output.

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  14. The Omega Man says:

    A bit late, but Thursday 30 April there was BBC4 program on food technology (TimeShift: Farm to Pharma – The Rise and Rise of Food Science)

    Not very promising ground for BBC bias, you may may well imagine? Well, I did learn from the program that a leading member of the Lyons research team that developed soft-scoop ice cream was a certain chemistry graduate called Margaret Roberts.

    A talking head (can’t remember who) then goes on to decry the typical “ruthlessness” of Thatcher replacing traditional ice cream made with cream and eggs with a manufactured product consisting one third air. Can’t find anyone these days to say a good thing about soft scoop ice cream, it seems.

    Then the narrator informs us Margaret leaves her research career for one in politics. The voice over, heavy in sarcasm, intones that Lyons’s loss was the country’s “gain”?!.

    So casual in their contempt, it pervades all their output.

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  15. The Omega Man says:

    A bit late, but Thursday 30 April there was BBC4 program on food technology (TimeShift: Farm to Pharma – The Rise and Rise of Food Science)

    Not very promising ground for BBC bias, you may may well imagine? Well, I did learn from the program that a leading member of the Lyons research team that developed soft-scoop ice cream was a certain chemistry graduate called Margaret Roberts.

    A talking head (can’t remember who) then goes on to decry the typical “ruthlessness” of Thatcher replacing traditional ice cream made with cream and eggs with a manufactured product consisting one third air. Can’t find anyone these days to say a good thing about soft scoop ice cream, it seems.

    Then the narrator informs us Margaret leaves her research career for one in politics. The voice over, heavy in sarcasm, intones that Lyons’s loss was the country’s “gain”?!.

    So casual in their contempt, it pervades all their output.

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  16. Martin says:

    Hattie Hatemenperson is being spun by the BBC. The BBC ‘claim’ she doesn’t want to be leader of the Liebour party. This is nonsense. What she said was she is happy to be deputy leader to Gordon Brown and nothing else.

    The BBC trying to spin the Liebour line again.

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  17. Martin says:

    Hattie Hatemenperson is being spun by the BBC. The BBC ‘claim’ she doesn’t want to be leader of the Liebour party. This is nonsense. What she said was she is happy to be deputy leader to Gordon Brown and nothing else.

    The BBC trying to spin the Liebour line again.

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  18. Martin says:

    Hattie Hatemenperson is being spun by the BBC. The BBC ‘claim’ she doesn’t want to be leader of the Liebour party. This is nonsense. What she said was she is happy to be deputy leader to Gordon Brown and nothing else.

    The BBC trying to spin the Liebour line again.

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  19. Martin says:

    Typical Radio 5. Two guests ot talk about the Liebour mess.

    1. Stephen Pound, a simpering wet twat

    2. Big nose Maguire from the Daily mirror a man who spend more time up Brown’s arse than Mandelson

    The BBC being even handed as usual. NOT!

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  20. Martin says:

    Typical Radio 5. Two guests ot talk about the Liebour mess.

    1. Stephen Pound, a simpering wet twat

    2. Big nose Maguire from the Daily mirror a man who spend more time up Brown’s arse than Mandelson

    The BBC being even handed as usual. NOT!

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  21. Martin says:

    Typical Radio 5. Two guests ot talk about the Liebour mess.

    1. Stephen Pound, a simpering wet twat

    2. Big nose Maguire from the Daily mirror a man who spend more time up Brown’s arse than Mandelson

    The BBC being even handed as usual. NOT!

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  22. Anonymous says:

    There seems to be a common narrative coming from both Labour and conservative voters.

    Conservatives dont trust Cameron to be a conservative, and believe they live in a basically socialist controlled country and EU.

    Where as Labour voters don’t trust almost their entire leadership to be socialist, and believe they live in a basically free market capitalist controlled country and EU.

    The right genuinely believe the left are the real authoritarians, and the left genuinely believe the right are the real authoritarians. ( very much IMO because of the dishonesty of The BBC in particular.)

    Logic dictates that they can not both be correct at the same time.

    However, logic is not always……….logical.

    Especially when the BBC/MSM have got anything to do with anything. Which as WE ALL know they very much do, otherwise we would not be reading or contributing to this site.

    The truth is this.

    The establishment pick which bits of which that ultimately takes place. This by controlling many seemingly uncontrollable events, every bit as much as they control the BBC/MSM, the education system, the armed and police forces, the civil and secret services, and of course, all main stream political party’s and many of the not so main stream ones as well.

    Therefore there is ONLY one conclusion that a thinking individual can possibly come to.

    If you don’t like the forever more authoritarian world you are living in. Then you now know who to blame for it. It you do like the ever more authoritarian world you are living in. Then you now know who to congratulate.

    Only please try to resist the temptation to believe that the system actually gives a damn that much, what you think anymore, one way or another.

    The establishment evolved way past that stage a very long time ago, even if most of your imaginations, are clearly still stuck in the stone age.

    There is only one thing that unites all of mankind, left, right middle, and all the spaces in between. Black, white, middle, and all of the shades in between. Poor, not so poor and all the income groups in between.

    That is not religious, spiritual, or even material in its ultimate nature. It is the one thing that we all have less and less of everyday, whether we have any spare cash to spend or not. This thing is deeply from and within the individual and is the prerequisite for all his or her respective, worthwhile and positive ambitions.

    That thing is FREEDOM, just in case any of you may have forgotten.

    Atlas shrugged

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  23. Anonymous says:

    There seems to be a common narrative coming from both Labour and conservative voters.

    Conservatives dont trust Cameron to be a conservative, and believe they live in a basically socialist controlled country and EU.

    Where as Labour voters don’t trust almost their entire leadership to be socialist, and believe they live in a basically free market capitalist controlled country and EU.

    The right genuinely believe the left are the real authoritarians, and the left genuinely believe the right are the real authoritarians. ( very much IMO because of the dishonesty of The BBC in particular.)

    Logic dictates that they can not both be correct at the same time.

    However, logic is not always……….logical.

    Especially when the BBC/MSM have got anything to do with anything. Which as WE ALL know they very much do, otherwise we would not be reading or contributing to this site.

    The truth is this.

    The establishment pick which bits of which that ultimately takes place. This by controlling many seemingly uncontrollable events, every bit as much as they control the BBC/MSM, the education system, the armed and police forces, the civil and secret services, and of course, all main stream political party’s and many of the not so main stream ones as well.

    Therefore there is ONLY one conclusion that a thinking individual can possibly come to.

    If you don’t like the forever more authoritarian world you are living in. Then you now know who to blame for it. It you do like the ever more authoritarian world you are living in. Then you now know who to congratulate.

    Only please try to resist the temptation to believe that the system actually gives a damn that much, what you think anymore, one way or another.

    The establishment evolved way past that stage a very long time ago, even if most of your imaginations, are clearly still stuck in the stone age.

    There is only one thing that unites all of mankind, left, right middle, and all the spaces in between. Black, white, middle, and all of the shades in between. Poor, not so poor and all the income groups in between.

    That is not religious, spiritual, or even material in its ultimate nature. It is the one thing that we all have less and less of everyday, whether we have any spare cash to spend or not. This thing is deeply from and within the individual and is the prerequisite for all his or her respective, worthwhile and positive ambitions.

    That thing is FREEDOM, just in case any of you may have forgotten.

    Atlas shrugged

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  24. Anonymous says:

    There seems to be a common narrative coming from both Labour and conservative voters.

    Conservatives dont trust Cameron to be a conservative, and believe they live in a basically socialist controlled country and EU.

    Where as Labour voters don’t trust almost their entire leadership to be socialist, and believe they live in a basically free market capitalist controlled country and EU.

    The right genuinely believe the left are the real authoritarians, and the left genuinely believe the right are the real authoritarians. ( very much IMO because of the dishonesty of The BBC in particular.)

    Logic dictates that they can not both be correct at the same time.

    However, logic is not always……….logical.

    Especially when the BBC/MSM have got anything to do with anything. Which as WE ALL know they very much do, otherwise we would not be reading or contributing to this site.

    The truth is this.

    The establishment pick which bits of which that ultimately takes place. This by controlling many seemingly uncontrollable events, every bit as much as they control the BBC/MSM, the education system, the armed and police forces, the civil and secret services, and of course, all main stream political party’s and many of the not so main stream ones as well.

    Therefore there is ONLY one conclusion that a thinking individual can possibly come to.

    If you don’t like the forever more authoritarian world you are living in. Then you now know who to blame for it. It you do like the ever more authoritarian world you are living in. Then you now know who to congratulate.

    Only please try to resist the temptation to believe that the system actually gives a damn that much, what you think anymore, one way or another.

    The establishment evolved way past that stage a very long time ago, even if most of your imaginations, are clearly still stuck in the stone age.

    There is only one thing that unites all of mankind, left, right middle, and all the spaces in between. Black, white, middle, and all of the shades in between. Poor, not so poor and all the income groups in between.

    That is not religious, spiritual, or even material in its ultimate nature. It is the one thing that we all have less and less of everyday, whether we have any spare cash to spend or not. This thing is deeply from and within the individual and is the prerequisite for all his or her respective, worthwhile and positive ambitions.

    That thing is FREEDOM, just in case any of you may have forgotten.

    Atlas shrugged

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  25. will2001 says:

    Oh dear! Obama might be about to fall from grace in the BBC’s eyes as reality sets in

    President Obama is on the verge of breaking two key campaign promises in his troubled attempt to shut Guantánamo Bay — with plans to revive the military tribunal system set up by George Bush and to continue the indefinite detention of up to 100 inmates.

    Now Mr Obama’s lawyers are worried that they will struggle to try many detainees in federal court because a civilian judge could throw out much of the evidence.
    .

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6216709.ece
    .

    The squaddies really should have read the scum their rights at the time of arrest & got Clive Stafford Smith to their cell within a couple of hours.

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  26. will2001 says:

    Oh dear! Obama might be about to fall from grace in the BBC’s eyes as reality sets in

    President Obama is on the verge of breaking two key campaign promises in his troubled attempt to shut Guantánamo Bay — with plans to revive the military tribunal system set up by George Bush and to continue the indefinite detention of up to 100 inmates.

    Now Mr Obama’s lawyers are worried that they will struggle to try many detainees in federal court because a civilian judge could throw out much of the evidence.
    .

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6216709.ece
    .

    The squaddies really should have read the scum their rights at the time of arrest & got Clive Stafford Smith to their cell within a couple of hours.

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  27. will2001 says:

    Oh dear! Obama might be about to fall from grace in the BBC’s eyes as reality sets in

    President Obama is on the verge of breaking two key campaign promises in his troubled attempt to shut Guantánamo Bay — with plans to revive the military tribunal system set up by George Bush and to continue the indefinite detention of up to 100 inmates.

    Now Mr Obama’s lawyers are worried that they will struggle to try many detainees in federal court because a civilian judge could throw out much of the evidence.
    .

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6216709.ece
    .

    The squaddies really should have read the scum their rights at the time of arrest & got Clive Stafford Smith to their cell within a couple of hours.

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  28. Craig says:

    Yes, the Beeb loved Rudd – before his 'betrayal'. (Should we send them hankies? On second thoughts, they'd only use them for something else entirely.), and as for Obama…

    On the other hand, the BBC has never had a good word to say about Silvio Berlusconi. He's rich, he's conservative, he's anything but PC, & he even liked George Bush. What's not for them to dislike?

    Today their News Homepage has some more tittle-tattle about him ("Berlusconi demands apology from his wife in deepening public row").

    I followed the links though to their profile of Italian PM.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3034600.stm

    It's long (47 paragraphs) & manages to mock his appearance, as well as his personality. It spends most of its time, however, going into great detail about what "critics" and "opponents" say about him: Paragraph after paragraph of negative comments, and others where all sorts of typical BBC bogie words ("right-wing", "populist") sit next to sly digs.

    There are only three even vaguely positive things in the whole piece, & even they are all so hedged about with qualifications – and so brief – that you might miss them. Surely the man must have achieved some agreed-on good things for Italy during his various premierships.

    The whole thing's a hatchet-job.

    The BBC acts as a McBride for the Left all across the world.

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  29. Craig says:

    Yes, the Beeb loved Rudd – before his 'betrayal'. (Should we send them hankies? On second thoughts, they'd only use them for something else entirely.), and as for Obama…

    On the other hand, the BBC has never had a good word to say about Silvio Berlusconi. He's rich, he's conservative, he's anything but PC, & he even liked George Bush. What's not for them to dislike?

    Today their News Homepage has some more tittle-tattle about him ("Berlusconi demands apology from his wife in deepening public row").

    I followed the links though to their profile of Italian PM.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3034600.stm

    It's long (47 paragraphs) & manages to mock his appearance, as well as his personality. It spends most of its time, however, going into great detail about what "critics" and "opponents" say about him: Paragraph after paragraph of negative comments, and others where all sorts of typical BBC bogie words ("right-wing", "populist") sit next to sly digs.

    There are only three even vaguely positive things in the whole piece, & even they are all so hedged about with qualifications – and so brief – that you might miss them. Surely the man must have achieved some agreed-on good things for Italy during his various premierships.

    The whole thing's a hatchet-job.

    The BBC acts as a McBride for the Left all across the world.

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  30. Craig says:

    Yes, the Beeb loved Rudd – before his 'betrayal'. (Should we send them hankies? On second thoughts, they'd only use them for something else entirely.), and as for Obama…

    On the other hand, the BBC has never had a good word to say about Silvio Berlusconi. He's rich, he's conservative, he's anything but PC, & he even liked George Bush. What's not for them to dislike?

    Today their News Homepage has some more tittle-tattle about him ("Berlusconi demands apology from his wife in deepening public row").

    I followed the links though to their profile of Italian PM.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3034600.stm

    It's long (47 paragraphs) & manages to mock his appearance, as well as his personality. It spends most of its time, however, going into great detail about what "critics" and "opponents" say about him: Paragraph after paragraph of negative comments, and others where all sorts of typical BBC bogie words ("right-wing", "populist") sit next to sly digs.

    There are only three even vaguely positive things in the whole piece, & even they are all so hedged about with qualifications – and so brief – that you might miss them. Surely the man must have achieved some agreed-on good things for Italy during his various premierships.

    The whole thing's a hatchet-job.

    The BBC acts as a McBride for the Left all across the world.

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  31. Martin says:

    will2001: As I’ve pointed out numerous times here to the leftie idiots that turn up, you cannot try Muslim terrorists in a US court that were captured on the battlefield or elsewhere.

    Any case would be thrown out on the basis that MIRANDA was not followed.

    Obama is a tosser and the BBC is as well for not understanding why Bush did what he did.

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  32. Martin says:

    will2001: As I’ve pointed out numerous times here to the leftie idiots that turn up, you cannot try Muslim terrorists in a US court that were captured on the battlefield or elsewhere.

    Any case would be thrown out on the basis that MIRANDA was not followed.

    Obama is a tosser and the BBC is as well for not understanding why Bush did what he did.

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  33. Martin says:

    will2001: As I’ve pointed out numerous times here to the leftie idiots that turn up, you cannot try Muslim terrorists in a US court that were captured on the battlefield or elsewhere.

    Any case would be thrown out on the basis that MIRANDA was not followed.

    Obama is a tosser and the BBC is as well for not understanding why Bush did what he did.

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  34. HairyNoddy says:

    BBC Parliament is showing a replay of the 1979 election night coverage. It must be like reliving a nightmare for the poor things Comrade Straw was on looking like a typical student prat.

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  35. HairyNoddy says:

    BBC Parliament is showing a replay of the 1979 election night coverage. It must be like reliving a nightmare for the poor things Comrade Straw was on looking like a typical student prat.

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  36. HairyNoddy says:

    BBC Parliament is showing a replay of the 1979 election night coverage. It must be like reliving a nightmare for the poor things Comrade Straw was on looking like a typical student prat.

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  37. Jason says:

    I noticed this story in the Mail today and couldn’t find it on the BBC website, I wonder why?

    Tax Google to help the BBC, say ministersGoogle could be be hit with an online advertising tax to boost the coffers of the BBC, under proposals being discussed by the Government.”Incredible isn’t it? These socialist bastards are clinically addicted to confiscating other peoples money. Bring it on I say. This will be an excellent opportunity for the whole absurdity and injustice of tax funded broadcasting to be brought to the public eye. I hope Google fights this at every step of the way.

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  38. Jason says:

    I noticed this story in the Mail today and couldn’t find it on the BBC website, I wonder why?

    Tax Google to help the BBC, say ministersGoogle could be be hit with an online advertising tax to boost the coffers of the BBC, under proposals being discussed by the Government.”Incredible isn’t it? These socialist bastards are clinically addicted to confiscating other peoples money. Bring it on I say. This will be an excellent opportunity for the whole absurdity and injustice of tax funded broadcasting to be brought to the public eye. I hope Google fights this at every step of the way.

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  39. Jason says:

    I noticed this story in the Mail today and couldn’t find it on the BBC website, I wonder why?

    Tax Google to help the BBC, say ministersGoogle could be be hit with an online advertising tax to boost the coffers of the BBC, under proposals being discussed by the Government.”Incredible isn’t it? These socialist bastards are clinically addicted to confiscating other peoples money. Bring it on I say. This will be an excellent opportunity for the whole absurdity and injustice of tax funded broadcasting to be brought to the public eye. I hope Google fights this at every step of the way.

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  40. Craig says:

    There’s an interesting story about Fiat wanting to take over the European wing of General Motors (ie. Vauxhall and Opel). ‘The World at One’ featured Professor Garel Rhys, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff Business School. The BBC tends to turn to him whenever the motor industry is discussed. (He’s also keen on electrically-powered cars). He was followed by Tony Woodley, joint-leader of the Unite union, who the BBC also tends to turn to whenever the motor industry is discussed. Almost Woodley’s first words were, “I thought that assessment by Garel Rhys, as always, was extremely accurate”. Both made plenty of negative comments about Fiat, the prospect of whose takeover put shivers down Woodley’s spine. (He wants various European governments to “take some ownership of this particular company”).

    The BBC has a knee-jerk instinct on these stories, and a ridiculously small address-book. Why always the same voices (a BBC-attuned academic and a union leader)? Why always the coincidence of views between those same voices? Is this isn’t bias, what is?

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  41. Craig says:

    There’s an interesting story about Fiat wanting to take over the European wing of General Motors (ie. Vauxhall and Opel). ‘The World at One’ featured Professor Garel Rhys, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff Business School. The BBC tends to turn to him whenever the motor industry is discussed. (He’s also keen on electrically-powered cars). He was followed by Tony Woodley, joint-leader of the Unite union, who the BBC also tends to turn to whenever the motor industry is discussed. Almost Woodley’s first words were, “I thought that assessment by Garel Rhys, as always, was extremely accurate”. Both made plenty of negative comments about Fiat, the prospect of whose takeover put shivers down Woodley’s spine. (He wants various European governments to “take some ownership of this particular company”).

    The BBC has a knee-jerk instinct on these stories, and a ridiculously small address-book. Why always the same voices (a BBC-attuned academic and a union leader)? Why always the coincidence of views between those same voices? Is this isn’t bias, what is?

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  42. Craig says:

    There’s an interesting story about Fiat wanting to take over the European wing of General Motors (ie. Vauxhall and Opel). ‘The World at One’ featured Professor Garel Rhys, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff Business School. The BBC tends to turn to him whenever the motor industry is discussed. (He’s also keen on electrically-powered cars). He was followed by Tony Woodley, joint-leader of the Unite union, who the BBC also tends to turn to whenever the motor industry is discussed. Almost Woodley’s first words were, “I thought that assessment by Garel Rhys, as always, was extremely accurate”. Both made plenty of negative comments about Fiat, the prospect of whose takeover put shivers down Woodley’s spine. (He wants various European governments to “take some ownership of this particular company”).

    The BBC has a knee-jerk instinct on these stories, and a ridiculously small address-book. Why always the same voices (a BBC-attuned academic and a union leader)? Why always the coincidence of views between those same voices? Is this isn’t bias, what is?

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  43. biodegradable ghost says:

    All in all, pound for pound, the beeb gives very good value in my book. I watched victorian farm there the other evening and it was extremely good. The licence fee is not expensive, and really you are all a bunch of wingnuts for complaining about it.

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  44. biodegradable ghost says:

    All in all, pound for pound, the beeb gives very good value in my book. I watched victorian farm there the other evening and it was extremely good. The licence fee is not expensive, and really you are all a bunch of wingnuts for complaining about it.

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  45. biodegradable ghost says:

    All in all, pound for pound, the beeb gives very good value in my book. I watched victorian farm there the other evening and it was extremely good. The licence fee is not expensive, and really you are all a bunch of wingnuts for complaining about it.

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  46. Peter says:

    Ah, the sweet small of ad hom in the afternoon.

    Meanwhile…

    The BBC has a knee-jerk instinct on these stories, and a ridiculously small address-book.I believe the preferred word is ‘select(er..ive)’.

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  47. Peter says:

    Ah, the sweet small of ad hom in the afternoon.

    Meanwhile…

    The BBC has a knee-jerk instinct on these stories, and a ridiculously small address-book.I believe the preferred word is ‘select(er..ive)’.

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  48. Peter says:

    Ah, the sweet small of ad hom in the afternoon.

    Meanwhile…

    The BBC has a knee-jerk instinct on these stories, and a ridiculously small address-book.I believe the preferred word is ‘select(er..ive)’.

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  49. DB says:

    First off, I’d like to apologise to David Vance. When I commented about the new look on Saturday I was pretty steamed about the loss of all the Haloscan comments and said some stuff I didn’t really mean. I do actually appreciate the work that goes on to provide tossers like me the chance to vent my spleen here. And it seems the Halsocan archive can be accessed in a roundabout way so I’m happier now.

    Reading James Lileks’ blog earlier this afternoon I discovered the delights of Xtranormal.com, a website where you can make your own computer generated movies from little more than your own text. And for free! It’s more fun than I could’ve imagined. Here’s my first go – Matt Frei interviewing Obama.

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  50. DB says:

    First off, I’d like to apologise to David Vance. When I commented about the new look on Saturday I was pretty steamed about the loss of all the Haloscan comments and said some stuff I didn’t really mean. I do actually appreciate the work that goes on to provide tossers like me the chance to vent my spleen here. And it seems the Halsocan archive can be accessed in a roundabout way so I’m happier now.

    Reading James Lileks’ blog earlier this afternoon I discovered the delights of Xtranormal.com, a website where you can make your own computer generated movies from little more than your own text. And for free! It’s more fun than I could’ve imagined. Here’s my first go – Matt Frei interviewing Obama.

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