SPRING HAS SPRUNG

Interested to hear John Humphrys assert this morning that Spring comes earlier each year “because of global warming.” I was wondering on what basis John feels entitled to state this, or was he just making it up as he went along. Give it a listen here, it’s at the very beginning.

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52 Responses to SPRING HAS SPRUNG

  1. Mike Spilligan says:

    I thought JH was a farmer in deepest Wales in private life, so maybe he knows something – but here, in the East Midlands, the advance of Spring seems to be about 5 or 6 weeks behind last year.

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  2. David Vance says:

    Mike,

    Yes, but I wondered on what basis John has concluded that the cause of the lateness was “global warming”…

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  3. martin says:

    David Vance: Since when does the BBC have to quote facts or science?

    Global Warming is so ingrained into the BBC now it’s just accepted.

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  4. Grant says:

    The funniest thing is that any “unusual” weather is ascribed to “Global Warming”.

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  5. Ethan says:

    Eastbenders was ten minutes late the other night and it was depressing cr4p. Obviously Global Prawning…..er Warming!

    My foot hurts….Global Warming.

    My neighbour has a better car than me…Global Warming again!

    This is fun. I wonder just what stupid thing you can ascribe to GW before someone calls you on it. Sounds like a good game to me.

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  6. Lee Moore says:

    Earlier Spring may be down to warming, or greater CO2 concentrations, or both. The jury is still out on how much to ascribe to each factor, see for example :

    http://www.co2science.org/articles/V8/N43/EDIT.php

    I would put a slightly different emphasis on Grant’s summary of the BBC’s attitude. It’s more that any unusual warmth is ascribed to global warming, but any unusual coolness is merely local and is ascribed to temporary variation or special one off conditions, random fluctuation that one shouldn’t pay attention to on a timescale of less than 100 years, and so on.

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  7. Doug says:

    All organisations, especially the media, are inherently unscientific. When they fill a science correspondent position it is invariably filled with a trained journalist who has barely dipped their toe into science. It’s patently obvious that Humphrys is unqualified to make a statement like that.

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  8. David A says:

    Here are some excellent articles and information about (Mann-made) Global Warming by Prof. John Brignell, over at Numberwatch.
    http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/

    A Complete List of Things Caused by Global Warming:
    http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

    Global Warming as a Religion:
    http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/religion.htm

    How We Know They Are Lying:
    http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/lying.htm

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  9. pete says:

    Why do people lsten to the Today programme? There is nothing to be learned from it that can’t be learned much quicker by reading a few internet pages.

    As for Humprhys I expect he won’t be moving to a well-insulated, small-windowed flat on a brownfield site in an inner city as affluent greens tell everyone else to do for the sake of the planet. No, he’ll continue live the metropolitan life/rural idyll split so favoured by many others of his type, along with its need for more than one home and lots of CO2 producing travel.

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  10. Cockney says:

    “Why do people lsten to the Today programme? There is nothing to be learned from it that can’t be learned much quicker by reading a few internet pages.”

    You can’t read the internet by getting dressed and it’s not advisable whilst hammering round the M25.

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  11. Cockney says:

    “whilst” getting dressed, rather than “by” obviously…

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  12. Dave S says:

    Humphreys must live in a different country. Spring is not “early” at least in the Avon Valley. Just another normal change from winter to spring as it has been for generations.
    Normality is the new heresy.

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  13. Dr P.Simple Heinz Kiosk (BSc,B says:

    (BSc BBc, B.A. in Grant Application Dynamics)

    I, personally, believe the best tactic in view of the insolent behaviour of the planet in cooling down when it is supposed to be warming up, is to talk less about ‘global warming’ and more about ‘climate change’. Then gradually we can move towards the position ‘CO2 causes weather’. I would like to see the defiant planet sabotage that one!

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  14. Dr P.Simple Heinz Kiosk (BSc,B says:

    (BSc BBc, B.A. in Grant Application Dynamics)
    I am not sure how much longer our people in the BBC can hang on to the ‘warming’ notion. They are doing their best, but I fear the continued stubborness by the planet in cooling down when the BBC said it must warm up is already making them look ridiculous, and I am receiving feedback that they don’t think they can push the warming idea at the 100% bias level much longer. Some are even talking of reducing the bias to 97%

    Therefore it is essential that we apply for grants to find other evil effects of CO2, in particular American CO2.

    Someone kicked off nicely on the C.Booker Sun Tel column by saying it makes the sea turn acidic. Nice one!

    I have a few more evil effects to offer to grant applicants:

    – CO2 makes plants grow too fast

    – CO2 causes fizzy bubbles to appear in many soft drinks when the top is unscrewed.

    – CO2 causes a white cloud to appear when you try and use a fire extinguisher, thereby obscuring the view. This has obvious Health and Safety implications if you cannot see the fire properly, which are important to mention when applying for a grant.

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  15. pete says:

    The refusal of the planet to behave itself and warm up as predicted won’t dampen the BBC’s enthusiasm for the global warming fad for decades yet.

    The left’s enthusiasms for silly ideas always takes ages to subside – many BCC/Guardian types are still utterly convinced of the benefits of socialism and ‘progressive’ educational theories for example. People who live lives cut off from reality have no need to change their opinions just because of inconvenient facts.

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  16. JohnA says:

    You and Yours today on Radio 4 is all about people trying to save on fuel. But the central theme, taken as gospel truth, is that there is global warming – the only question is whether in hard times people can afford to invest in ways to reduce warming.

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  17. frankos says:

    Why would warming up the planet make spring come earlier?.
    Most plants are photosensitive and respond to a mixture of temperature and light, but mostly light.
    Sunnier and nicer weather is probably a natural phenomonen–scary stuff!

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  18. caveman says:

    live lives cut off from reality have no need to change their opinions just because of inconvenient facts.
    pete | 24.02.09 – 12:29 pm |

    I think that is the key – they really do have their own little world. That is because there are so many of them all like each other at work all day, then they socialise with the same types later I would guess, so that in the end, their world view becomes normal.

    That was why they were genuinely surprised to discover that their loved one J Ross was not in fact loved by everyone else, on that occasion when their world interacted briefly with the real world.

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  19. Robert S. McNamara says:

    Carbon dioxide is a powerful, powerful thing. Here we see it’s managed to alter the rotation of the Earth and make spring come sooner. Curse you carbon dioxide! Curse you to hell!

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  20. Andy says:

    If the beeboids are so bothered about gwobal warming, why don’t they shut up about it for a while, therby reducing the amount of hot air being spewed into the atmosphere?

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  21. martin says:

    Simon May has Gaia man on shortly to spout more global warming crap.

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  22. martin says:

    This Spring has come early was a story that the TOSSPOT Harrabin spouted last year. Some might remember him ‘reporting’ from Kew gardens that ‘some’ flowers there were already starting to bloom.

    A few days later half of the Country was covered in Snow again. Clearly Snow doesn’t mean winter anymore.

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  23. Jim T. says:

    I’ve just returned from a week in Paris, where it was b****y cold, if my calculations are correct, not all that far from the balmy spring which the global warming dingbats seem to be experiencing.

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  24. Libertarian says:

    Al Gore drops Climate Claims

    Last week wasn’t just a disaster for the Obama administration. Al Gore’s hysteria took it on the chin, too.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/milo_yiannopoulos/blog/2009/02/24/al_gore_has_been_forced_to_drop_some_of_his_most_outlandish_claims_but_what_about_the_rest

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  25. pete says:

    Shutting BBC TV stations 3 and 4, and radios 1 extra, 6 and 7 would save some energy.

    The BBC is ever expanding. Surely ever more TV channels and radio stations are something we can do without if we really are in a planetary emergency.

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  26. JohnA says:

    Not sure I agree about Radio 7 – it replays some of the REAL comedy stuff the BBC used to have.

    But I suppose they could replay them in the 6.30pm slot on Radio 4 instead of all the leftie unfunny rants ?

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  27. Johnny Norfolk says:

    BBC.
    For

    Global Warming.
    Labour
    UN
    U.S. Democrats
    E.U.
    Palastine
    Human Rights
    NHS
    Homosexuals
    ETC

    Against

    Tory Party
    Business
    Police
    Britain as a nation state
    England
    Private anything
    Traditional values, family, schools
    etc

    We should not be aware of any of this if it followed its charter

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  28. Chuffer says:

    Fantastic irony here:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7907602.stm

    Rocket designed to measure eeeevil carbon dioxide crashlands just short of antarctica…..

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  29. JohnA says:

    Johnny Norfolk

    But the BBC was and is a big fan of George Bush, always presented him in a fair and unbiased light.

    Chuffer

    Maybe (as with Challenger) there was ice on the rocket ?

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  30. JohnA says:

    Chuffer

    Knowing the lies that some people at NASA have kept putting out about global warming – at least the satellite loss means they can’t put out more lies ?

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  31. Grant says:

    Dr. Kiosk 12:05
    ( And hat tip to the late great Michael Wharton ).
    Since you have taken my name in vain, my I extend your hypothesis and suggest that, although US CO2 is much worse than British CO2, the absolute worst CO2 in the world is, of course, Israeli CO2.

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  32. RR says:

    No Grant, British lower-middle class, church-going, married, heterosexual with children, educated and honest is the very worst kind of CO2 you can imagine.

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  33. Jon says:

    Do you know why the weather in Britain has always been a main topic of conversation? Its because it is so unpredictable. It could be warm one day and below zero the next. One minute it might be pouring with rain the next it is glorious sunshine.

    So today John Humphrey’s says the warmth is due to global warming – and if there is another blizzard next week will he put it down to global cooling. The BBC are so full of their own sense of infallibility that they never even realize what they are saying is rubbish.

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  34. Ratass Shagged says:

    “RR
    No Grant, British lower-middle class, church-going, married, heterosexual with children, educated and honest is the very worst kind of CO2 you can imagine.”

    And white, don’t forget.

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  35. Jon says:

    “Return of winter as another flurry of snow heads toward Britain”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1154646/Return-winter-flurry-snow-heads-Britain.html

    Humphreys – I told you.

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  36. martin says:

    James Lovelock was on with Simon Mayo today.

    I think the guy is a bit of a loon but he in all fairness think the eco loons like Al Bore are wrong.

    One thing I do agree with is that ever more human beings on the planet won’t do us any good.

    Like him I agree we should be looking at severe reductions in human population, which would be good for us and the planet.

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  37. Atlas shrugged says:

    No Grant, British lower-middle class, church-going, married, heterosexual with children, educated and honest is the very worst kind of CO2 you can imagine.”

    And white, don’t forget.

    Well yes and no.

    The people that run this world are many very bad things. One of which is highly racist, in the real meaning of the word.

    They do believe that white people are inherently superior to all other races especially the Negro race. Which they would very much like to virtually exterminate at some time in the future. Unless of course the establishments appointed slave owner is a black man himself, like Mugabe for example. In which case they simply allow the murderous psychopath to carry on killing his own people, to his own hearts content.

    However for our elites economic and social reasons, murdering and murderously impoverishing black people is generally a wast of their establishments precious time. As many years of practice all over Africa, has shown them.

    We, the people of the first world, are the big consumers.

    Therefore, as far as our establishment and its BBC are concerned.

    We are taking up too much room in their country side. While costing them too much of THEIR worlds resources, keeping us half happy, over fed, entertained, sufficiently ignorant and properly pensioned.

    IMO

    This is not a good thing for us, to say the least.

    It is time for us, the mainly white people yet again, to undergo a ‘over late culling’ of our numbers, simply to make the elites sums add up, if not for a whole lot of other essentially NAZI FASCIST type reasons.

    In conclusion

    IMO

    Our ruling elites are not really racist in this sense. They would murder us all, if they could manufacture enough of their own slaves, and knew 100% they could mostly all get away with it.

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  38. Grant says:

    Atlas 8:20
    Could you just run that past me again, please ?

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  39. Reimer says:

    martin:
    “James Lovelock was on with Simon Mayo today.

    I think the guy is a bit of a loon but he in all fairness think the eco loons like Al Bore are wrong.

    One thing I do agree with is that ever more human beings on the planet won’t do us any good.”

    Martin – I caught the odd bit of this and my jaw dropped at his apparent call for the transformation of Britain into some kind of Mega-City high-tech ant-hill in order to accomodate a population swollen hugely by climate-refugees from the South. (Sort of a right-on lifeboat with the landscape hidden under demented levels of development).

    The stupid old git thinks the correct response to the long long environmental emergency he’s been forecasting is to turn Britain into a giant-sized version of inner-city London?

    I didn’t hear Mayo at any point suggest that any of this might be bollocks – if anything, he seemed to be swooning quite shamelessly at the old pseud. Nor did he comment on the ageing Cassandra’s plans to hitch a lift aboard Richard Branson’s space-flight enterprise even with all the howwible emissions those noisy rockets make.

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  40. JohnA says:

    Reimer

    When Lovelock was interviewed earlier in the week he made the same stupid point – everyone who wanted to should be allowed settlement in the UK as our climate and agriculture would still be OK. Pile ’em high seemed to be his point.

    Again, it never crossed the mind of the interviewer to suggest that the Brits might object to this.

    BBC – we believe in unlimited immigration, the more the merrier.

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  41. EllenO says:

    Spring ‘officially’ starts around March 20 as the vernal equinox. but of course what these GW types are talking about is spring like temperatures

    So let’s see what happens if we apply common sense to this situation.

    Assuming every year springs comes one day sooner (temp wise) and that according to the IPCC GW has been going on since the late 1970s then (assuming 1980 as a start date for the roll back of winter) we should see every year spring like conditions by early Feb. So far this has not happened though I am sure the GW chattering classes will have a quick explanation.

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  42. martin says:

    More climate change crap from the BBC. I wonder HOW much CO2 the BBC used up sending a team of journalists to the south pole?

    The BBC really don’t see the irony do they?

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  43. martin says:

    Reimer: Simon Mayo actually admitted at the start of the interview that he really thinks a lot of Lovelock.

    Mayo quotes this pillock all the time when he talks about climate change to others. He admitted as much today.

    What gets me is that the BBC see Lovelock as the opposing view of climate change believe it or not.

    What Lovelock misses is that human beings will do what human beings have always done which is adapt to climate change.

    Look at Holland. Look at Venice. Humans have been living in the Arctic for thousands of years.

    Humans can adapt to climate change without moving.

    Lovelock is right that there is bugger all we can do to stop the planet changing it always has and always will.

    Driving a Toyota ‘Pious’ will make no difference.

    However depopulating the Earth is a good idea.

    As Lovelock pointed out, the eco loons want us to go back to living in the Stone age, expect only a few million people will be able to live like that.

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  44. Roland Deschain says:

    The BBC seems to have decided to crank up the climate change rhetoric today. Why would that be?

    On PM it was a story about the melting ice near Iceland freeing up uncharted, and dangerous, waters. In February? In the northern hemisphere?

    Then the 10 O’Clock News tells us how environment ministers from around the world have all gone to Antarctica to look at the melting ice. Well, it’s the end of the southern hemisphere summer, a good time to view melting ice. Hang on though, wasn’t the report about Antarctica warming up debunked almost immediately when it was found that missing data had been made up? Not according to the enthusiastic reporter who informed us that Antarctica was warming up as if it were fact.

    Anyway, how did the world leaders get there, by executive jet or sail power? Sorry, can’t answer that one, too difficult.

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  45. frankos says:

    my favourite piece of BBC irony was a report from an island near Guam informing us that the sea level is rising due to global warming mainly brought on by aircraft emissions, and you guessed it –the cheeky bugger had taken 3 different planes to get there to make this world shattering report!!
    I did laugh!!

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  46. Chuffer says:

    “Look at Holland. Look at Venice. Humans have been living in the Arctic for thousands of years.”

    Bloomin’ odd atlas you’re using, Martin………!!!

    (And that’s ‘atlas’ as in ‘book for looking up countries’, not ‘Atlas’ as in ‘hugely irritating blog-clogging conspiracy nutter’)

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  47. Grant says:

    Roland 10:40
    The Beeboids are worried about “Global Warming” because they can’t live without snow.

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  48. JohnA says:

    Maybe people at the BBC can sense the whole global warming charade imploding – they are making frantic efforts to keep us plebs on message?

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  49. Dr P.Simple Heinz Kiosk (BSc,B says:

    Grant:
    Dr. Kiosk 12:05
    ( And hat tip to the late great Michael Wharton ).
    Since you have taken my name in vain, my I extend your hypothesis and suggest that, although US CO2 is much worse than British CO2, the absolute worst CO2 in the world is, of course, Israeli CO2.
    Grant | 24.02.09 – 4:52 pm |

    Grant – Yes, I too enjoyed the Heinz Kiosk character of Peter Simple, so this one is trying to copy him a bit, although obviously just an imitation. If only Michael Wharton were alive he would really have made mincemeat of the global Warmist lot.

    Watching the Warmist bandwaggon collapsing is very satisfying and entertaining – the weather (please no-one say weather is not the same as climate yet again) is one thing the crazy and delusional BBC cannot control.

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  50. J. Bonington Jagworth says:

    If there’s no global warming I think I’ll take my Bugatti Veyron out for a spin this afternoon, just to celebrate.

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