67 Responses to I suppose someone really ought to say something about Mr Grade taking over.

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  1. PJF says:
    April 6, 2004 at 10:56 pm

    Speaking of “points”, The Insider, I notice that your approach to ‘answering’ points is simply to change the subject. If I were to state, “the sky is blue”; you would respond by shouting “Wrong! An apple is a fruit!” – and feel terribly pleased with your imagined wit.

    Hence above when I stated, “the BBC is empowered, in the name of the licence, to extort over £2.5 billion a year from all TV viewers…”; you responded with, “Wrong! The license fee also funds services for radio listeners and internet users.” One has nothing to do with the other.

    Likewise, when I said, “The BBC does not compete”; you responded with this misinformation, “Wrong! It DOES. It is required, by the Royal Charter, to ensure that 25 percent of its income is spent on independent organisations.”

    You didn’t address the points; you didn’t even comprehend the points. More amusing than your insults.

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  2. Mr Tea says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:06 pm

    dans

    For those of the elite that can’t read.

    PJF, I’m more than happy to help fund this website.

    Thatcher could never have been as successful without the loony left and the BBC will always prevail with the puritanical creepy bogeyman snapping at the heels of British broadcasting.

    I thank you and your amigos for providing such a splendidly unsympathetic argument.

    I imagine the insider will be happy with his continued cash flow, and I am merely content to be entertained.

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  3. The Insider says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:09 pm

    You’re not too good with that italics tag PFJ, are you?

    I did answer the points – you’re obviously too stupid to understand, or you can’t read.

    Here, I’ll spell it out for you:

    Point 1: “the BBC is empowered, in the name of the licence, to extort over £2.5 billion a year from all TV viewers…”;

    So only telly viewers benefit from the licence fee? Wrong.

    Point 2: “The BBC does not compete”

    So, giving away £0.6billion each year to private companies, thereby helping to provide a competitive market for the BBC’s services is not competing?

    Back to the drawing board, Tory boy.

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  4. Mr Tea says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:09 pm

    I’m sure you’ll agree your lunatic posturing and naive arguments are a great incentive to keep the BBC once again I thank you.

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  5. PJF says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:16 pm

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    For Alan Massey:

    There’s no need to miss out on watching DVDs, since there is no legal requirement to have a TV licence for merely owning a television set. The TV licence is permission from the state to install or use television receiving equipment to receive or record television programme services.

    It is quite easy to detune your TV from any channels, and remove the aerial lead. This would result, in your case, in the TV set becoming a monitor for your DVD player. In this scenario there is no requirement to have a licence.

    This page has useful info:
    http://www.tvlicensing.biz/info_on_tvlicensing/index.htm
    .

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  6. Mr Tea says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:22 pm

    Thanks for that info Alan, just to let you know you can get a fantastic selection of DVD’s at http://www.bbcshop.com and also your cash will help fund a great British institution.

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  7. Mr Tea says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:27 pm

    Sorry PJF I’m confusing my loonies but you all think so alike!

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  8. The Insider says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:30 pm

    Man, it must be great fun at your house on a Saturday night, PFJ.

    Sitting around, counting your William Hague photo collection and diverting decent discussions from the main topic of conversation, over to the boring minutae of why your telly doesn’t show any television programmes.

    Alan Massey – would that be the missing RNLI man whose body was discovered today?

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  9. Mr Tea says:
    April 6, 2004 at 11:36 pm

    Reading Paul Wolfowitz’s “How to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory and imagining the icy touch Condoleezza Rice. Guys that’s not mainstream entertainment you are weirdoes!

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  10. PJF says:
    April 7, 2004 at 12:01 am

    The Insider, your grasp of the English language is as perverted as the rest of your sense of reality. In your ‘spelling out’, you merely illustrated how incredibly dim you are. Quite laughable.

    Point 1: “the BBC is empowered, in the name of the licence, to extort over £2.5 billion a year from all TV viewers…”;
    So only telly viewers benefit from the licence fee? Wrong.

    The BBC is empowered to take over £2.5 billion a year from all TV viewers – it’s a fact. Nowhere did I say that only TV viewers ‘benefit’ from the proceeds. You’re just making this up (telling lies). Do you work in the newsroom?

    Even if the BBC were required to spend a quarter of their funding on independent production companies (which is just another mind-fart misunderstanding of reality by you), this wouldn’t amount to competition. You obviously don’t understand market economics – you’re a socialist. Pathetic.

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  11. PJF says:
    April 7, 2004 at 12:33 am

    OFFICE OF FAIR TRADING Independent productions
    transmitted by the BBC – Ninth report

    from the preface:
    Broadcasting Act 1990, section 186:
    the duty of the BBC to secure that not less than 25 per cent of the amount of time allocated to the broadcasting of qualifying television programmes is allocated to the broadcasting of independent productions.

    from the conclusion:
    The BBC has failed to discharge its statutory duty under section 186(1) of the
    Act to allocate at least 25 per cent of total time allocated to qualifying
    programmes to independent productions during the period 1 April 2001 to 31
    March 2002.

    In fact, they’ve failed three years in a row! Reality shows us that The Insider hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about – and that the BBC is failing to meet its statutory duties.

    Hang on, statutory duties? Production quotas? How can the BBC be independent then?

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  12. The Insider says:
    April 7, 2004 at 7:50 am

    More diversionary rubbish from PFJ, and once again he failed to answer the points.

    The word “television” in the license fee is a legacy – the license fee funds radio (which it did initially, before it was modified to a television licence), television, the internet, educational services and a whole host of other offerings that barely covers the fee paid by most people.

    “The BBC has failed to discharge its statutory duty under section 186(1) of the Act to allocate at least 25 per cent of total time allocated to qualifying programmes to independent productions during the period 1 April 2001 to 31”

    Why not quote us the part of that report that tells us how much the BBC *DID* allocate to independent companies in that period?

    I suspect your paraniod mind doesn’t see those bits.

    That sort of half-truth is the kind of thing you morons are trying to illustrate in this turgid website, with little success I might add.

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  13. Alan Massey says:
    April 7, 2004 at 11:36 am

    “Alan Massey – would that be the missing RNLI man whose body was discovered today?”

    Thankfully that isn’t me, and I am not aware of any family ties to this man. Though I sympathise with his family and friends, as I know what it’s like to lose someone close.

    PJF;

    Thanks for the link, that might be the solution.

    Mr Tea;

    You still fail to understand, I would have nothing against buying DVDs from the BBC as that would be a completly voluntary purchase on my part.

    On a related note, would you be willing to pay the BBC licence if their news service appeared to be biased AGAINST your prefered political ideology? Whether or not you actually think they are biased in the real world.

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  14. JohninLondon says:
    April 7, 2004 at 5:43 pm

    As Mr Insider is clearly a troll, with no valid arguments and a clear anti-right bias, (a bias he denies the BBC has) it might be better to simply ignore him.

    Altertively – ignore him because he is a crashing bore.

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  15. The Insider says:
    April 7, 2004 at 8:59 pm

    “ignore him because he is a crashing bore”

    Don’t you mean a crushing bore – like you?

    You obviously can’t read – I answered the point at the top of this thread.

    Your reaction time is longer than your attention span; if stupidity were a crime, you would be an outlaw.

    I’m here to stay John. I’m going to make it my mission in life to haunt you and your fellow Thatcherite capitalists on this paraniod joke of a website.

    I’m also betting you’ll find it irresistable to reply to my superior threads and “ignore” me.

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  16. JohninLondon says:
    April 7, 2004 at 9:41 pm

    I’m not a Thatcherite. Why does your twisted view make you assume that everyone who posts here is a Thatcherite ? Bias on your part ?

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  17. Andrew Ian Dodge says:
    April 10, 2004 at 9:23 pm

    I am so glad my comments meant so much to you all. The Insider obviously thinks that it’s entirely appropriate for the state to force (via criminal penalties) everyone who dares to own a television to tithe to the BBC. Wonder whether the Insider is in fact Jonathan Izaby?

    BBC competitive?

    Yeah right…they have a guaranteed income stream.

    Grade’s record of television is not exactly shining.

    The man went on Room 101 then slagged off Dr Who and those who liked the program. I am willing to bet Dr Who was cannned not because he thought it was crap but because it was not PC enough for his tastes.

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