‘For those of us who value an open, liberal society it is time to explain why a liberal democratic society is superior to the alternatives.’
Gunther Grass was raised in a Nazi dominated society. He absorbed the Nazi ethos all through his young life and at 17 he joined the SS claiming he was not conscious of any guilt at the time, it was normal, but later lived a life marked by shame.
A member of the Hitler Youth, he had been, as he admits in his memoir, “a Young Nazi … a believer to the end”, one who saw his “Fatherland threatened, surrounded by enemies.”
How could he not believe that it was his duty to take part in that “life-and-death” struggle.
After the war, a lot of people pretended that the “poor German people had been seduced by a horde of evils,” Grass said in the interview Friday, but that “was not the truth. It happened all in broad daylight. And with enthusiasm and with popularity.”
Sound familiar when we see young Muslims heading off to join ISIS and Al Qaeda and their parents blaming the West for not having tackled Assad?
In 2012 we stated that…
‘There clearly needs to be a debate about immigration and Islam in a ‘secular’ Western democracy. Is the BBC prepared to hold it?’
Is anyone prepared to hold it? MI5 thinks not….
People in MI5 tell me that denying the connection between Islamism and terrorism derives from the belief that if you accept it, there’s no hope for a multicultural society in Britain: we would just have to recognise that part of the population is permanently liable to become terrorists.
However it looks like the BBC has bitten the bullet with this remarkably open condemnation of ‘conservative’ Islam by David Goodhart……
‘Some say that if people understood Islam more everything would be fine, they would be more tolerant of it…I think quite the contrary…the more they understand about it the more alien they would find it…authoritarian, collectivist, patriarchal, all the sort of things that Britain might have been 100 years ago but isn’t now’
A Muslim, Gina Khan, tells us that the British state is not aware of what is going on in Muslim communities…Muslim citizens are being stripped of their British rights in a liberal democratic society by imposed Muslim culture.
Goodhart says that the Koran expresses many values that are in opposition to the values of a liberal democracy but asks is it really a problem? Can’t we accomodate conservative Muslims and their extremes?
A Muslim says….Recognise these differences, celebrate the difference but not in exchange for a common unity and a common identity.
Another Muslim says…’We completely understand the concerns people have about Islam…we have them too.’
Goodhart finishes off with this thought…..
The gulf between conservative Islam and mainstream British society is deeper than with any other comparable community…for those of us who value an open, liberal society it is time to explain why a liberal democratic society is superior to the alternatives.
A bit of a challenge for the BBC…..though credit for broadcasting this programme….the question is will it and its questions filter through to the mainstream BBC such as Jeremy Vine, Campbell, Peter Allen, Nolan and Derbyshire?
The all too usual effect of such programmes is to briefly illuminate the truth but then to be quietly forgotten whilst the likes of the above continue to bury their heads in the sand peddling their myths about Islam and its valuable contribution to a secular and progressive society like ours.
Here is what is being taught at Luton Mosque…and many others…
Honour,victory, and strength will only come to this Ummah when we return and unite upon the pure religion as it was brought by the Prophet (alayhis salaam) and practiced by the Companions. Only when we single out Allah, alone, in worship and give obedience to Him and His Messenger, will the Help of Allah come.
And they ask why Muslims rush to join ISIS. Because that is what they are being taught by mainstream mosques….the above is a call to practise fundamentalist Islam and for the creation of a caliphate.
The BBC’s deeply ingrained mantra….
Moderate Islam is Our New Religion
Moderate Islam isn’t what most Muslims believe. It’s what most liberals believe that Muslims believe.
The new multicultural theology of the West is moderate Islam. Moderate Islam is the perfect religion for a secular age since it isn’t a religion at all.
Gina Khan told us this a long time ago but has been pretty much ignored by the BBC until now….
As a young child and teenager I grew up in an area where the majority was English but there were also Greeks, Chinese, Jamaicans and Indians living in the same community.
Everybody got on and respected each other. My parents ran
supermarkets, so we were integrated, if not allowed to assimilate as females because of the religion. And now the white people are leaving, the area has disintegrated, and it breaks my heart. Most members of my family have moved out.
The area has been Islamised. Mosques, mini-mosques and madrasas rise up on almost every street corner, but there is nothing for the youth. Drugs and crime has made the area unsafe for young girls. Social services and the police know what is going on.
I have witnessed anti-west and anti-Jew posters and leaflets appear in shops run by young bearded Muslims. I watched the Islamists mobilise the Muslim community right under my nose. Before 9/11 the time I could not name it, but I knew something was not right, but it was being done in the name of Islam.
The extremists have had over twenty five uncontested years to mobilise the minds of British Muslims and their backwardness now dominates some areas.
Multicultural polices are not working…
Over twenty five years to mobilise the minds of British Muslims?…hang on….isn’t that long before 2003 and the Iraq War? And that was written in 2009 by Khan.
Radicalisation began long, long ago. The BBC needs a new narrative on the real causes of terrorism.