611 Responses to MID WEEK OPEN THREAD…..

  1. EnglandExpects says:

    BBC lunchtime News had a real struggle today. On Brexit, Ivan the Sulker is no longer newsworthy. But nothing negative has replaced him. Instead it’s a raft of good news about the UK economy. The BBC did its best to distort this. The rise in the service sector PMI ( services are 80 per cent of the economy) was brushed over quickly and the reporter concentrated on inflation ‘ threats’. The record 2016 car sales are, we are told, going to be followed by a ‘ steep decline’. The Cambridge University report on the post- Brexit economy, which rubbishes everything the Osborne Treasury told us, is simply not mentioned. The bias is relentless.
    Meanwhile BBC faced the excruciating embarrassment of a black- on- white ‘hate’ crime in Chicago. While the BBC would just love to ignore this, that was impossible because the idiot perpetrators recorded it live on the Internet . All in all a tough day for the left-liberal, open borders, anti- Brexit, Black Lives Matter, BBC.

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    • Grant says:

      England,

      It is wonderful watching the BBC in meltdown . They just get more and more ludicrous and desperate. Does anyone in their right mind take these loonies seriously ?

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      • EnglandExpects says:

        Grant, I think they take themselves seriously, which is fine, but not while the rest of us are paying for their bloated, biased news operation. I’d love to see it floated off and told to become a subscription- only service. How many would buy it? My guess is about the same as buy the Grauniad in print format.

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        • Grant says:

          England,

          Yes, part of the problem is that they do take themselves seriously. They have no self-awareness.

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    • taffman says:

      EnglandExpects
      And our government does nothing about the bias – is it complicit?

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    • Rick Bradford says:

      Yes, indeed, a tough day to be “bubble-dumb” as Andrew Klavan put it yesterday….

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  2. Alicia Sinclair says:

    The BBC doesn`t forget who needs a hand for voting to Remain in the EU does it?
    Why else did we just suffer the atonal doodlings of Brian Eno on Vines hopeless trench coat show?
    Six minutes-and clearly lots of people pissed off because Vine has just spent another six minutes telling us about all his friends, how much of an influence he`s been.
    As opposed to a posing, lefty baldy liberal pillbox.
    Who next?…Peter Gabriel?…Carl Palmer?…and why not TWENTY minutes so we can all head for Heart FM in droves as I did just now?
    Next up-loads of Lily Allan, Bob Geldof, Damien Allbran and Charlotte Church then?
    Vines a creeper.
    Now-if I can just get my Rolf Stylophone out and look sensitive…can I get onto Vinetime to pretend we`re Stephen Morris and girly from New Order? Fascist creeps who graverobbed from Belsen, I`d guess.

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    • 7Clubs says:

      Whatever Eno`s politics his contribution to pop music is probably the most underrated in Britain.A major contributor to innovative albums by Bowie,Roxy Music and Talking Heads.Plus created great ambient music like the intro to the BBC`s Arena programmes

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    • Marion says:

      “Why else did we just suffer the atonal doodlings of Brian Eno”

      What is wrong with atonal music? I don’t see anything wrong with it per se, or are you confusing it with dissonant music, which is something else entirely?

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      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        Nothing at all 7Clubs and Marion.
        Nothing against his pioneering stuff or contemporary efforts.
        Not my bag, but he`s entitled to his kudos.
        But I bet Vine would never have played him had he not been such a sap for the Remain camp.
        Mike Oldfield won`t be getting an interiew or a six minute “excerpt” from his new CD.
        Neither will Tim Martin!
        er….more fun that Chris Martin anyway.

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        • Scroblene says:

          “Next up-loads of Lily Allan, Bob Geldof, Damien Allbran and Charlotte Church then?”

          Less fun for Vine than a diminished ninth on a 7″ single I suppose…

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    • quisquose says:

      I have enormous respect for Brian Eno and love his work, and he seems a genuinely nice guy.

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  3. wronged says:

    Newsnight presenter Evan Davis last night interviewed two people on the forthcoming French election.
    Let me transcribe to you his questions.
    Question 1. The Front Nationale . Should we think of them as a Fascist Party or a French UKIP? (Nothing about policies tonight then!)

    Question 2. Do you think of them as the Fascist Party or the UKIP party. (Same Question reinforcing the connection of Fascism with UKIP).

    Davis interrupts a guest when he says that Fascism has been successful on other elections, to which Davis refers to the success happening in the American election. (Naming Trump as a Fascist. -Are there any American lawyers watching this? BBC doing all it can to hinder US/GB relationship and still May sits on her hands).

    Both guests downplay F.Nationale as being a Fascist party under Le Pen as opposed to her Father.

    Question 3.If you think of them (Front Nationale) as a Fascist Party -I’m never ever going to vote for them. (Paraphrase long question-But if they went down the populist route that would appeal to mainstream voters). So then Front Nationale are either Fascist or Populist. Are there any French Lawyers watching this? (Are you saying that the French are stupid Evan!!!)

    Question 4. Lets look at feel. The National Front!!! Parked somewhere between F.N and UKIP.Somewhere more extreme. (Doesn’t UKIP have any Lawyers!! Defamation.
    Fillon, he not n ordinary French candidate,now he’s quite right wing, he’s Thatcherite which the French don’t like. He’s very socially conservative ( I think a small ‘c’). (Left still go on about Thatcher,obsessed).

    Evan Davis/BBC is boring with a clear anti UKIP agenda. (UKIP need to do a lot more than they are doing about this disgusting bias). Anti Le Pen agenda.
    More BBC balance and impartiality. Ofcom anyone. No, why! Because their panel is all made up of ex BBC luvvies. There is no hope except for websites like this.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Wronged,
      Full marks for watching Newsnight and reporting back on their endless propaganda excesses. It must take a lot of determination to sit through an hour of this leftist lie fest. To think this was once the BBCs flagship political programme.

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      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        Todays TWATO featured a piece on the Catholics all going to be Fascists in Mays election, over in France.
        Hoe very DARE the Church get involved in politics-only Muslims should be doing this.
        Didn`t hear poor Jacques Hemal mentioned either-but did come late to it.
        Ed Stourton was running the show-he kept very quiet as a Lefty Catholic over in the UK.
        So we know now who to blame if Le Pen gets in.That seemed to be the cut of it all. Utter garbage.

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        • Lucy Pevensey says:

          Alicia Sinclair

          I wonder if any of them can remember a certain murdered Catholic Priest?

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  4. scribblingscribe says:

    The BBC, on World at One, reported on the black kids torturing a helpless white lad. Didn’t hear them mention the colour of the assailants, but the interview wasn’t about the black hate of white people, beating up someone they associated with Trump, the torture, etc,. No, all the BBC were concerned with was: should this have been broadcast by Facebook.

    The two interviewees kept pointing out that the problem here was the event, not it being broadcast. No doubt the BBC would be happier if no one reported black on white, hate filled, racial, political attacks against anyone not on the left.

    No BBC, the problem here is the message NOT the messenger. Why didn’t you discuss that?

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  5. Guest Who says:

    Lucky that famous BBC editorial integrity found the time and space for this one:

    Newsbeat

    The internet has seen the funny side to Bernie Sander’s GIANT Trump tweet

    Bernie’s giant Trump tweet gets hijacked by your memes
    BBC.CO.UK

    Oddly other stories of note seem less on their radar.

    It may be interesting to find out what guides such decisions, though of course the BBC are prepared for any who try with their famous commitment to transparency:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/what_objective_impartial_systems

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  6. Cassandra says:

    Hardeep-Singh-Kohl_1441768c.jpg

    Hardeep “Nobody has accused me of sexual harassment” Singh Kohli is presenting a radio programme on radio 4 Extra this weekend. No matter what this sad specimen of a human being does, the BBC just can’t let him go, take for example his sexual harrassment of a BBC employee on BBC premises for a BBC show. Wasn’t that Jimmy Savile, Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris et al you say? Read on…

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/exclusive-shamed-sex-row-tv-1041932

    Wow, sacked from The One Show and ditched by Children in Need for giving porn names to nursery rhyme characters. His response to people on Twitter who criticised the nursery rhyme incident…

    “Who are you? My mother? Feel free to unfollow and get a sense of humour.”

    That tells them Hardeep.

    What about this caring and sensitive man’s attitude to his tenants. Didn’t you know Hardeep is a landlord who owns multiple properties along with his family in Glasgow ? Nothing untoward there then I expect…

    “Properties owned and rented by comedian Hardeep Singh Kohli have been branded “grubby and dirty” and substandard as the celebrity was issued with warnings over his conduct as a landlord (by Glasgow City Council).

    “Mr Kohli, a regular on BBC’s The One Show who also wrote and starred in Channel 4’s Meet The Magoons, was also denied three-year licences for two flats which are part of a raft he owns and leases through his father’s company in Glasgow’s west end.”

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12465051.Comedian_Singh_Kohli_apos_s_rented_Glasgow_flats__apos_grubby_and_dirty_apos_/

    I won’t mention the three tenants who were taken to hospital suffering from the effects of carbon monoxide while living in your family’s properties, trust me, I wont.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/hardeep-singh-kohli-the-bbc-hung-me-out-to-dry-7675215.html

    So how do you feel about the BBC Hardeep, the gift that keeps on giving to you…

    “The BBC hung me out to dry — and still do so.”

    I don’t think so Hardeep because in any other organisation you would be out on your ear. No you tick all the boxes of the BBC’s Cultural Marxist agenda and you’re not “hideously white”. What the public doesn’t know or has forgotten about you won’t hurt it.

    You’ll be back, Hardeep, don’t fret.

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    • DownBoy says:

      Big SNP supporter, to boot.

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    • JosF says:

      I can assure you that as a Sikh this Sikh would not pss on hardeep singh kohli if he was on fire I have never respected him and like so many so-called comedians he is far from funny more full of himself Ideal for a BBC empolyee

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    • Grimer says:

      I used to think he was OK, until I saw him on Celebrity Apprentice for Comic Relief. He was getting bossy and Kelvin Mackenzie called him a ‘jumped up little Hitler’ which was a common turn of phrase when I was younger. He went mental and had a relentless tantrum and sulk. Shouldn’t that kind of ‘insult’ (said in a joking way by Mackenzie) be water off a ducks back to a ‘comedian’? It showed just what a precious ‘I make the joke around here’ idiot the man is.

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  7. gaxvil says:

    Andrew Lawrence repeats on Radio 4 Xtra?
    Now, this is just going too far! That station should be re named, Radio Hitler!
    Yours,
    Culturally Enriched of Tunbridge Wells

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  8. G says:

    First heard on the BBC? Don’t answer that one…..
    Seems this is an annual Islamic event in France –
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/france-muslims-set-fire-to-nearly-1000-cars-on-new-years-eve
    When will the revellers get round to houses and buildings?

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      The French government have a lot to answer for with the car burning in the banlieues, THEY compensate the owners for the damage and not the insurance companies; who would stop insuring them or the premiums would be prohibitively expensive for the ghetto dwellers.
      I think it was the “tough on crime” President Sarkozy who introduced that genius policy.

      If the government didn’t do so – it would stop.

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  9. MartinW says:

    Not reported by the BBC: “Obama grotesquely had himself awarded a Defense Dept. medal yesterday” http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/obama_grotesquely_had_himself_awarded_a_defense_dept_medal_yesterday.html

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  10. gaxvil says:

    This BBC programme was refreshingly interesting. I reckon they thought no one would be listening:-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b086s60b

    “Us Versus Them”
    Political movements which proclaim themselves as anti-elitist challengers to the mainstream establishment have been achieving success, from Brexit campaigners to Donald Trump and various European parties. John Harris explores the reasons behind this international phenomenon, examines the motivating forces for the anxiety and anger of voters, and considers the response of the political establishment in this new era.”

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  11. s.trubble says:

    Re Grant ,and his wonderful wife’s name……Wolof…………

    Surely Grant’s 2nd name could not be …… Tov Cocktail !!!

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    • Grant says:

      Strubbie,

      LOL ! Actually her tribe is “Wolof” , her name is “Isatou”, Africanisation of the Prophet Mohammed’s ( peace be upon him ) favourite wife’s name ” Aisha “.

      But “Woloftov cocktail ” sounds like a nice drink , but maybe a little bit dangerous ?

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  12. Foscari says:

    Happy New Year to all fellow contributors. I somtimes wonder what some of you do for a living. I wouldn’t be surprised if half of you are indigenous Brits who work for the BBC
    but are always seeing others for diversity or positive discrimination being promoted over you.
    You probably wont believe this but I am a football odds consultant for bookmakers all over the world and I am going to warn you about something.
    NEXT year you are going to hear alot about IRAN on the BBC. It wont be about about them finaly developing a nuclear weapon or having attacked, Israel which of course would give the BBC great pleasure. NO it will be about IRAN doing very well in the World Cup in Russia.
    My New Year’s gift to all of you is to bet IRAN each way at 1500/1 for the World Cup. Believe me they have a very good football team.
    I expect by the time they reach the 1/4 finals Jeremy Bowen and Orla Guerrin and the rest will be in a permanent orgasmic state.

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  13. Bill Bobbs says:

    Legal story of the decade that is the scandal of Sgt Blackman’s court martial hasn’t put in an appearance on the Beeb as yet. I wonder why they’re not all over it. It’s got everything:
    bungling upper class twits
    evil judge
    innocent man in the clink
    high-level conspiracy

    Guess they’re on the case and we’ll hear about this scandal of injustice soon… or maybe not.

    Till then here’s a great piece on the latest: http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2017/01/they-hate-sergeant-blackman.html

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      BB – That is a quite superb article, thank you so much for linking it here; I shall be sharing it far and wide.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Speaking of injustice and the BBC, I came late to – I think – a segment on WatO yesterday (BBC R4 1pm 5 Jan) with the usually mild mannered Ed Stourton in charge. Ed was getting rather aerated over what I (incorrectly) guessed was a spoof but very nasty video put up on Facebook by some Chicagoans. He was discussing with some US media people whether Facebook should allow this sort of thing, whether they should censor, report it to the police and whether they took it down quickly enough. Mild Ed seemed to be getting quite impatient and exasperated with the answers. I was left unclear by Ed’s presentation & questioning and wondering whether its was a spoof video or some sort of crime.

      Later, I discovered it was an actual filmed (by the perpetrators of all people!) criminal event of kidnapping, assault and torture, none of which appeared to have troubled Ed Stourton while in the presenters chair at the BBC.

      Even worse, it appears that it was another example to be filed under ‘BBC: White Lives Don’t Matter.’

      Disgraceful and not very Christian, Ed. (Just in case you get to read this.)

      Very definite BBC bias.

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  14. seismicboy says:

    Is it me or are the bbc and sky news having an anti-British, anti-brexit competition since the turn of the new year?
    It seems to me they have all recovered from their fair-trade alcohol (for the few non-muslims left in bbc house) and vegetarian turkey substitute induced Christmas stupor and are now settling down to the cold hard facts that not only do the British people have their own voice but it has vocalised in no uncertain terms.
    For these poor snowflakes it must be like waking from a nightmare and finding it’s actually real.
    But for the liberal media the fight goes on and it seems to have intensified. Sky are winning the battle of the snowflakes in my opinion. Surely that Sky-poll must be the best barometer we have to feel the nation’s Brexit pulse.
    I suppose it is after they have consigned the obvious replies to the cutting room floor.
    “How would I know how the government is doing over Brexit, it ain’t started yet”
    Reporter to studio – cut, cut, cut, off message, “I don’t think we can use that one Kay”
    LOL, how much of a paradox is it that the media ask how much the nation is divided by…………dividing the nation?
    Fµck off Sky and fµck of bbc, we have got you sussed.
    They used to hang people for what you are doing. It’s called treason – “the crime of betraying one’s country”

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  15. s.trubble says:

    fOSCARI

    DILLY dILLY DONG MAN
    dILLY dILLY dONG
    on iRAN we’ll all
    LUMP ON

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    • Foscari says:

      s.trubble- I have been told that before the World Cup they will be playing friendlies
      aganst West Haram Utd and Oldharam, just for a start! They have asked me if I know of
      any other Islamic Shiite teams in the UK. Do you know of any? Maybe a few shit sides?

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      • Lobster says:

        Foscari – there’s always my team – West Bromwich Halalbion.
        If you want any more, why don’t you ask Sam Allah-dyce?

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        • Foscari says:

          Lobster-The one team they wouldn’t play of course would be Tottenharam.
          That would for sure be haram for them.Can you imagine the BBC covering the
          match and the Spurs supporters screaming out “YID ARMY.” Can you imagine on
          the Londonistan programme with Asad Ahmed and the rest ,the outcry!!

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  16. Marion says:

    Latest from the BBC:

    Germany: 3,000 Sex Attack Victims in 2016

    “Third World invaders pretending to be refugees in Germany carried out at least 1,964 serious sex attacks in Germany during 2016, preying on 2,000 adults and 1,000 children, a new study by monitoring group XY Einzefall has shown.

    The true number of attacks and victims is much higher, because police are under orders to withhold hundreds of reports and only respond if the media makes inquiries.”

    Actually, it was “The New Observer”, not the BBC. That was just a BiasedBBC joke. Happy New Year – for some more than others.

    http://newobserveronline.com/germany-3000-sex-attack-victims-2016/

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  17. s.trubble says:

    Foscari/’Lobster

    Only 1 side i can think of up here in northern Britain…..
    Palestine FC ( east end of Glasgow outfit) and if you knew their history you would know they once signed a certain
    Raphael Scheidte pronounced SHi Ite…………..I kid you not!!

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  18. quisquose says:

    Now, I’m a bloke that is comfortable with calling myself a feminist and I do think that rapes are under-reported and that Jill Saward did a great service to women when she declined her anonymity in 1986. But wtf, why are the BBC going so overboard on this woman that most people haven’t heard of?

    I looked at the clock on the radio in my car as I drove home, it was 17:16 and they were still talking about her on PM.

    This is clearly a lady thought of very fondly by some people at the BBC, I get that … but shouldn’t they prioritise news based on newsworthiness and not their own agendas?

    Or am I just being unfair?

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    • Grant says:

      quis,

      Could it be because the rapists were white ?

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    • Oaknash says:

      Qisquose – To be honest at the time this was a big story due to the brutality and sick nature of the assault and pathetic sentencing. Alas these days with all these new frustrated engineers and teachers arriving in Europe. Particularly in Sweden Sexual assaults of this caliber appear to have become far more common and therefore less memorable – it all just merges into the normal enriching “white noise”

      What however really pissed me off about this whole report is the way the BBC and the left always aim to be the “victims friend” With commiserations all around even a condolence tweet (I think) from Jezza getting a mention.

      I am afraid the normal BBC crocodile tears are just that – worthless, particularly when you remember the disgusting away they tried to play down the Rotherham sex abuse case even trying to smear the whole “asian ” continent because they could not bring themselves to utter the word “muslim”

      Pathetic as usual!

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      • Grant says:

        Oak,

        Sorry , but you have to realise that the BBC were just covering up for the evil Gurkhas !

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        • Oaknash says:

          Yeah – I think you could be right – Obviously not a group worth defending because many of them serve the British Crown.

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    • Deborah says:

      Quisequose, I presumed that this lady’s death being high on the running order because she fought against the accused in rape cases being allowed to stay anonymous. I can understand her point of view but equally I can understand men who turn out to be falsely accused wanting to stay anonymous until the verdict and their names released only if found guilty. But I can see the BBC’s agenda being in line with Jill Saward.

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      • Scroblene says:

        Th bBeeb’s stance is a bit rich, when they did absolutely nothing to stop vermin like Jimmy Savile doing the same sort of evil stuff!

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  19. BRISSLES says:

    So, “it was a pre-planned ‘assasination’ of their son,” – so say the parents of the Muslim shot in his car on the Motorway slip road near Huddersfield by the police. Oh, and he was a lovely young man and would do anything for anyone. Hmmmmmm not a drug baron then ? God almighty, oh for the parent who admits their kids were right little shits !!!! – just once.
    And now there is a full enquiry about the police shooting (3 bullets in the chest), so cue for compensayshun claim by the family from W.Yorkshire Police. Sorry, but for all the wailing of the mother, I don’t feel a shred of sympathy – just for the police who are damned if they do and damned if they don’t !

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    • quisquose says:

      It’s almost as if the BBC and SKY are happy to incite riots over this.

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      • seismicboy says:

        And the muslims just so happen to have balaclavas and other face-masks conveniently knitted by their grannies to hand out to the boys to go out and riot against the police. So much for integration then? When will the penny drop that we have brought Beirut to Bradford under the auspices of multi-culturalism? What were we thinking about? Cluster-fµck doesn’t even come close.

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        • quisquose says:

          When were we asked if we were okay with this?

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        • Grimer says:

          As if they’d wear balaclavas… They’re far too British – they’d use their culturally appropriate Palestinian Freedom Fighter (copyright BBC Ltd) scarves.

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      • Oaknash says:

        Quisquose – I think the left leaning media would be more than happy if half of Huddersfield got burnt down – it fits their narrative – Police brutality bro innit!

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    • Grant says:

      Brissles,

      Yes, ” victims ” are always ” lovely people “. So THEY have no victims. I have no brief for the British Police. But I guess they were acting on intelligence and surveillence. I would be amazed if the cop fired if he did not think the criminal was about to pull his gun. But , he will be suspended and career ruined .

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I’ve never understood the thinking behind this. A gun is to be fired, – only at somebody naughty ! fair enough. But when the guns ARE discharged there is always a full scale enquiry. One assumes that mental proficiency tests are a must on trained police officers for carrying firearms, so if one does go off bang there is always good reason. Otherwise those coppers at airports and the like may just as well hang a string of pearls around their necks instead of a semi automatic carbine !

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        • Grant says:

          Brissles,

          I do not know the details , but I would guess that British Police firearm training is only second to the British Military.

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          • Al Shubtill says:

            I watched Look North last night and they showed footage of a group of Pakistani-heritage gentlemen attacking a police car, there were two police sitting in it as a wing mirror was kicked off. Then a small mob were filmed blocking Bradford Ring Road, a la BLM protestors in the U.S., the police just standing watching them as the traffic built up and up.

            I can’t help thinking there would have been a slightly more “robust” policing response from the WYP if it had been the EDL who had been protesting in such a fashion.
            It’s fortunate that this drug-dealer-with-a-heart-of-gold wasn’t shot in the summer or I’m sure there would have been riots in Bradistan or Cleckhuddersfax; there may (possibly) be even still.

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          • BRISSLES says:

            Maybe so Grant, but with the current state of the judiciary system wanting to hang draw and quarter any soldier discharging their gun, then I’m not filled with confidence. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad the police are armed, I just wish there weren’t any repercussions every time they need to use them, and the press/media then descend on the ‘families’ to get their response. Its insane.

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          • Number 7 says:

            The grouping of 3 rounds looked pretty good to me for an officer in a high stress situation. – Especially as an “Illegal Firearm” was found in the car.

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            • Colboysigma says:

              Firearm found in car described as “non-Police issue” on BBC “News” Website. No shit!

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    • seismicboy says:

      Interviewer: He nailed your head to the floor?

      Vince: At first yeah

      Presenter: Another man who had his head nailed to the floor was Stig O’ Tracy.

      Interviewer: I’ve been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your head to the floor.

      Stig: No. Never. He was a smashing bloke. He used to buy his mother flowers and that. He was like a brother to me.

      Interviewer: But the police have film of Dinsdale actually nailing your head to the floor.

      Stig: (pause) Oh yeah, he did that.

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      • Scroblene says:

        Marvellous!

        And if they’d had film of him ‘sittin’ around, an’ biting the ‘eads off whippets’, there would have been a national outrage, followed by several documentaries about ways to control dangerous animals…

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      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        “… but Dinsy ain’t nevva done nuffink to me wot I di’n’t ave comin’ to me. Yeh, ‘e woz an ‘ard man but ‘e wuz fair, a reaw gent wiv the ladies too, if ‘e said ‘e’d do sum’ing then ‘e’d do it aw right, like smashin’ someone’s ‘ead in.”

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    • G.W.F. says:

      There could be a seat in the House of Lords, a baroness, perhaps, if mum keeps up the campaign in this Labour constituency.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Well she ticks all the right boxes GWF ! barely speaks English and wears a hijab.

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    • Spider says:

      Great another Dugan. Better tell the wife I won’t be home from work for the next month. Still she won’t mind spending the pay check when it arrives.

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  20. DownBoy says:

    The six o’clock (fake) news on Radio Four begins with a piece about how the pig ignorant, racist untermensch of the USA only voted for Trump because of the Russians.
    Later there is a story about how the Norwegians think it will be easier to set up a permanent base on the planet Neptune than to negotiate withdrawal from the EU.
    Oh, and then the beeboid tells us that Norway ‘has access to the single market.’
    What a pointless thing to say. Everyone this side of Pyongyang has access. Either the beeboid is a fool, with no understanding of the basic trading principle, or a knave who wants to encourage people to push for us to remain part of the single market i.e. no brexit.
    Fool or knave? Despite their general foolishness, my money’s on knavery.

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    • Grant says:

      Down,

      Beeboids and Remainers are so parochial and narrow-minded that they have no idea how most countries in the world do business. Most countries in the world are not in the EU and carry on trade fine. They just do it as they have done for thousands of years. The EU is just an errant blip in history !

         54 likes

      • DownBoy says:

        Precisely, Grant. Beeboids know exactly what they are doing when they erroneously refer to ‘access to the single market’. The same trick they play with ‘leaving Europe’ instead of ‘leaving the EU.’
        Drip, drip, drip…..

           44 likes

  21. embolden says:

    I had the misfortune of catching BBC Radio Hereford and Worcester this morning….the resident Alan Partridge sound-alike was burbling on about…..”the Daily Mail has a headline this morning, ‘migrants should learn English before coming to Britain’ pause…..audible tut…..very Daily Mail headline there” he then proceeded to ask for our stories about living abroad and learning a foreign language…..or not.

    Unfortunately I hadn’t the time to phone in and regale him with my experience as a temporary expat in the Middle Eastv……repeated pleas to help the locals improve their English so they could “go to England, US or Canada to get away from here”…..I kid you not.

    What is it about the BBC that thinks it is legitimate to reverse a story about immigrants poor English language skills by turning it into a story about “Brits in Spain”……I suspect some of the White flighters from Brum living down here could have provided some interesting insights of life surrounded by non-English speaking “Britons.”

       45 likes

    • Grant says:

      Embolden

      I have had the same experience in Turkey, Middle East , HK, Malaysia, Africa etc. But what about Beeboids ? To give one example, does Jeremy Bowen speak any Arabic or Hebrew ?

         27 likes

      • Oaknash says:

        Grant I understand that Jeremy Bowen is very proficient in speaking bollocks!

           32 likes

        • BRISSLES says:

          Um, the Spanish economy relies heavily on ex-pat and other nationalities living on their coastline to survive the winters after the tourism season is over. Cant say we have any great benefit from Asians living in our midst – doctors/chemists/corner shops we could provide ourselves, but I suppose we cant rustle up a curry like they do.

             25 likes

        • Grant says:

          Oak,

          LOL !!! He may speak it but he does not have any !

             10 likes

    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      As londonistan has now got a minority English population and because of white flight and exploding enrichers population (I know) I wonder what language you will have to learn if you want to move there.

         9 likes

      • Marion says:

        English, because its “population” effectively increases during the day due to the influx of commuters. Then there’s the huge influx of international visitors. Residency means little in practice.

        You need to worry about increasingly unstable tinderboxes like Oldhamistan.

           7 likes

  22. Alex says:

    I see that the left-wing fake news lamestream media have largely ignored the horrific, racist hate crime by a group of black youngsters on a white special needs person in Chicago. Could you imagine the nuclear response if the victim were black and the perpetrators white? There would be mass riots, mass virtue signalling by sanctimonious left wing hand pumps and endless news reports bemoaning how racist America is. Whilst the fake left-wing media ignore the racist aspect of this horrific attack because they are only interested when the victims are black, Chicago Police Department are trying to determine whether this was a hate crime. They might want to listen to the audio in which the scum say ‘f*** Trump, f*** white people’… should be quite simple.

       42 likes

    • Pounce says:

      Alex.
      I’ve been keeping an eye on this story. When it first broke the bBC omitted the colour of the racist thugs behind this. Now that they have been charged, however they go to great lengths in which to promote the view this has nothing to do with BLM. (Just watch the video clip on the article to see what I mean)

         34 likes

      • DownBoy says:

        Maybe lone wolves with mental health issues.
        Nothing to do with race. That’ll be it.

           24 likes

        • G.W.F. says:

          latest word from US libtards is that it was not a racial attack – despite comments about white – but an attack because the victim was mentally impaired.
          Phew. Gets BLM off the hook

          Just in. Cops have filed hate crime charges. These thugs are going to be taught a lesson

             32 likes

      • Alex says:

        Hi Pounce thx for video. Just also been checking the Guardian report on their webpage in which they include the thugs’ ‘F*** trump’ taunts but completely ignore the ‘F*** white people’ comments. Disgraceful but to be expected by such a vile propaganda outlet. However to be fair to the Indie they at least report the racist comments.

           38 likes

  23. Martellus says:

    The bbc informs and educates us that gender is nothing more than a far far right social construct imposed on us by evil phalocrat oppressors wishing to deny us discovering our true sexual ambiguity. I would still like to wish a belated very happy new year to all my fellow kuffars, the clever, witty men and wimmin who make this site so special. Pleased to see lots of new contributors – more somnambulists kicking the leftard zombie mainstream media opium habit. Awareness is clearly growing in bbc lie lie land.
    Yesterday heard the odious clegg described in predictably glowing bbbc terms, how clever he is, speaks five languages you know, pontificating on about how stupid we brexiteers were, how complex it was, what a disaster its going to be…… Its virtually every day! No one gives a damn what he thinks about anything. Weve all rejected his globalist eu lies, bankrupt world view and patronising sense of entitlement. Well as a thicko leaver who only speaks three languages, heres how I would describe him – мудак, дрочила, conard…..
    So called bbc World Service this morning lamenting that extweme far far wight wing pwopoganda internet site bweitbart is about to launch in Fwance – howwor of howwors. How dare they try to poison French public opinion in favour of Saint Marine. Cant find anything on Brietbart or our national treasures very own far far left lie machine website. I do hope its twue – anyone else heard or seen this?

       38 likes

    • Oaknash says:

      Martellus – I caught the back end of a R4 play this morning. And I do believe the BBC cant help itself. The play was set in Tynemouth in WW1 and some local”committee” were going to deal with a widow they thought was a spy. They thought she was a spy because they were informed that she had changed her name from Weiss to Mrs White.

      At this point I switched off – But of course she was probably Innocent and a victim of local xenophobes. but I think that the unsaid inference was that we are all angry racists just looking for somebody to have a go at who is different.

      Maybe we should all keep quiet and just listen to what Aunty tells us is the truth.

      Nah maybe not!

         30 likes

      • Lobster says:

        Ah, those ignorant, racist Northerners again. No chance they could have set it in West London I suppose.

           16 likes

  24. scribblingscribe says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38525549

    The BBC on the appalling torture of a white lad by black people who hurled racist lines at him and tortured him because he supported Trump.

    The BBC are upset because: “The incident has provoked a strong reaction on Twitter, especially among the alt-right – the fringe group that celebrated US President-elect Trump’s election win with Nazi salutes.”

    Bastards! linking the natural sympathy and horror of the public to a far right group. For the BBC and the soft left, no one can offer sympathy to a white victim without being stigmatised.

    Do the BBC actually think this or are they projecting these views hoping to influence people?

       58 likes

    • Al Shubtill says:

      These are the first blacks I’m aware of charged with a “hate crime”.

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/05/four-chicago-attackers-charged-with-hate-crimes-for-torturing-white-victim/#more-126691

         21 likes

    • Colboysigma says:

      I was utterly flabbergasted by the closing comment about Alt-Right Nazi salutes in that article about the tortured kid. Pure leftist lie.
      Complaint now sent to the luvvies at the BBC and official reply demanded!!!

         20 likes

      • richard D says:

        When I look at the BBC piece linked to by scribblingscribe above, apart from the article and section headers, the only part of the article in bold type is the section that tries to tie Mr Trump to Nazi fanatics.

        Yup – it doesn’t matter how terrible the crime of these thugs, no matter how horrible the story of the indignities and injuries these ‘people’ inflicted on a seriously learning-disabled person, the only piece in the article worthy of emboldened print, as far as the BBC is concerned, is an unsubstantiated comment about some people who the BBC says support Mr Trump – who can do nothing about their so-called ‘support’, other than denounce it – which he has done. Just because some bunch of crazies says they support someone does not mean that their ‘support’ is reciprocated.

        Bias by misplaced association – again.

           15 likes

    • Grimer says:

      I’ve grabbed a screenshot in case they stealth edit it:

      bbc1.png

         3 likes

  25. nogginator says:

    BBC NEWS – Russian hacking claims: US spy chief promises Putin motive
    “US intelligence chief has promised to explain why Russia allegedly meddled in the US presidential election” …
    Shoulda. woulda, coulda?, sheesh! Hope he doesn t go anywhere where he could put under scrutiny … don t answer Tuckers calls.

    “The Director of National Intelligence General James “clueless” Clapper said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the hack of Democratic Party emails
    … and, (wait for it)
    the motive will be revealed next week.”
    Talk about making it up on the hoof! 😀
    “Asked by a congressman if they “will ascribe a motivation to Putin”, Mr Clapper replied “yes, we will ascribe motivation”. Mr Clapper described the Russian efforts as a “multifaceted campaign”, which featured “classical propaganda, disinformation, [and] fake news”.

    That’s it! … can t listen to anymore of this “horse and pony show”.

       34 likes

  26. Al Shubtill says:

    We need someone like Trump to lead the negotiations with our “friends” in the EU.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-05/trump-threatens-toyota-build-new-plant-us-or-pay-big-border-tax

       25 likes

    • richard D says:

      I switched to BBC News a few seconds after 10pm this evening, caught the headlines, then the next 30 minutes of news. The ‘Breaking’ (BBC description) Trump-Toyota issue was streaming along the bottom banner on the screen constantly throughout this period, but despite all the other banner headlines being given space in the news broadcast, strangely, the Trump-Toyota issue didn’t get a mention. Selective reporting is a tactic very much alive and well at the BBC.

         32 likes

  27. Dave OMG says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38525549

    The Headline: “Four charged with hate crime for Chicago Facebook Live attack”

    The story: Awful…blah…terrible..blahh… that’s not my granddaughter, she a good kid…blahh…nothing to do with BLM…blah…

    Ah finally, here we are with the all important closing message: “The incident has provoked a strong reaction on Twitter, especially among the alt-right – the fringe group that celebrated US President-elect Trump’s election win with Nazi salutes.”

    A depraved and evil hate crime and the BBC has the audacity to pull the old “Think this is bad, look… what’s that over there… a squirrel in jackboots!” bait and switch trick.

    Seriously, OMG.

       54 likes

    • Marion says:

      Kriss Donald was tortured to death but the BBC hardly noticed, so our expectations shouldn’t be high over this.

      Going back further (but not as far as 1993 and Stephen Lawrence), there was the “Wichita Massacre” in the US by the Carr brothers. Received little attention over here, for some reason.

         12 likes

    • G says:

      The real Chicago – predominantly black and, very much like the Muslims elsewhere: at constant and continual war with everyone else. Envisage a World under Black or Muslim control? Just think about it realistically, it would surely be a hell on earth.

         7 likes

  28. Lucy Pevensey says:

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       72 likes

  29. StewGreen says:

    After listening to Paul Mason present R4 8pm prog I checked his Twitter feed.
    – Oh what a coincidence; he is Labour Party connected.
    – Someone seeks to debate him
    @paulmasonnews replies :

    @nhfinney talk to me when you believe in science mate

    – See Mason just pulls the label, sneer, dismiss trick to avoid the issues
    That’s cos Nicholas Finney OBE defines himself as

    Transport Policy Adviser-Passionate about leaving EU and proud to be a CO2 denier but wanting our environment to be protected

       26 likes

  30. nogginator says:

    Did you read in BBCs Europe News on … New Year’s Eve Islamic sex assaults: In Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland?? … violent Islamic mobs in France, Sweden and Poland???
    No! I didn t either, it appears that by dividing news up delaying it or omitting it altogether, the MSM, they think they’ve got away with it.
    http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/new-years-eve-sex-assaults-also-reported-in-finland-sweden-and-austria/news-story/ce603ac27e5ebb4479874096fe299b97
    Austria: NEW YEAR HORROR: Austria plagued by violence and sex attacks during NYE celebrations,
    France: Muslims set fire to nearly 1,000 cars on New Year’s Eve
    Sweden: Muslims fire rockets at crowds and police on New Year’s Eve in Malmo
    Germany: 1,000 Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” set fire to Germany’s oldest church on New Year’s Eve
    Swiss police said several women were allegedly robbed and sexually assaulted in Zurich on New Year’s Eve,
    That unbelievably Islamic migrants were employed as security guards in Cologne on New Year’s Eve
    That a New Year’s Eve terror alert that closed two busy Munich train stations
    That Asylum seekers who met in central Helsinki to celebrate New Years’s Eve “had plans” to commit sexual assault and other crime”

    Thank goodness for Breitbart News
    check out Oliver Lane 2/3/4 January

       30 likes

    • G says:

      Noggie,
      did I hear somewhere recently that Brietbart is intending setting up a news service around Europe and the UK? I’m sure I caught it somewhere. Brilliant! (if it is the case) Long overdue that proper news be available as a substitute for the heavily biased, massaged and cherry-picked lies we get from our ‘Worlds most Respected’ broadcaster.

         11 likes

  31. StewGreen says:

    Mental Rant on Radio Scotland : Media Review as the panel are vile and inarticulate in saying “Katie Hopkins is vile and inarticulate and should be BANNED.”

    Irony city they then went on to discuss new press laws saying the problem is that would interfere with the Freedom of the press.
    ….. as if banning Katie wasn’t interfering

    They demeaned her which is also ironic as her Radio audience is probably bigger than theirs.

    They gave 3 mild reasons why she is vile
    #1 This week when a recent caller called her racist she replied ” I do find genuine racism abhorrent , but I think the term is thrown around too much.
    #2 She then tweeted she believes RACIAL PROFILING works.
    #3 She then dumbly retweeted an agreement tweet from @AntiJudenSS which when you look carefully has a swastika on it’s account logo

    Only near the end did they remember she settled a £150K libel action last month about her 2015 suspicions of terrorism about a group of 18 males travelling without women to the US and being refused entry.

    Listen from 12m48s
    by 23m They are talking about the mass shooting by Islamicists in Istanbul
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0338j74/episodes/downloads

       16 likes

  32. NISA says:

    That Trump is all mouth & trousers, is the implication of this paragraph in the BBC report on Putin’s hacking.
    Last week, Mr Trump said he would announce information about hacking “on Tuesday or Wednesday”, but no announcement came.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38526570

    Perhaps that is because he has not yet had his face to face with Obama crony Clapper

       15 likes

  33. Guest Who says:

    Samira seems concerned about political influence over the airwaves.

    Precedent, Samira… Precedent.

       20 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      The BBC have one of their favourite sons on the Panel on Any Questions from ‘ull tonight at 8pm.

         7 likes

    • Grant says:

      Guest,

      I wonder how Samira’s salary compares with Nigel’s ? Maybe she can tell us !

         5 likes

  34. embolden says:

    Much ado on the BBC on Today about “Russian interference” in the US elections….

    but “drilling down” into their “story” suggests that many governments (including the US and UK) seek to influence the outcomes of other countries elections to suit their (our?) interests, and have done for years.

    Incidentally I wondered if anyone could ask the state supported BBC whether they considered their globally accessible coverage of the US election to have been ever so slightly in favour of Mrs Clintons campaign…and therefore just possibly seeking to “influence” the voting against Mr Trump who they still appear unable to accept is the President elect of the USA, and will be replacing Mr Obama another politician the BBC appeared to have a strongly positive institutional view of.

    Perhaps the real story is that the Russians are better at “influence” than the BBC are.

       39 likes

  35. An English Gentleman says:

    Why didn’t treezer the appeaser offer a certain Nigel Farage the job as eu ambassador? After all Mr. Nigel Farage does know a lot about the eu and it would certainly make our intentions known to whining remainers, the media, junkers, schulz et al……

    Oh, no we wouldn’t want that, would we?

       27 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Nigel would have been the obvious choice to anyone with even half a brain.

         12 likes

      • Grant says:

        Lobbie,

        The mistake is to appoint a civil servant, some sleezy shiny-ass, who has never had a job in the real world. Nigel has at least done something. Treezer should have gone for a business person with a proven track record of success, but she failed to do that. Just window-dressing and part of the delay process.

           10 likes

  36. Up2snuff says:

    The final NY series with Jim O’Neill on BBC Radio 4 today (9am-9.45am) was equally interesting and revealing. Catch it on iPlayer for the full version or on repeat at 9.30pm.

    See if you can spot the omissions, obfuscations and observational failings.

       6 likes

  37. Up2snuff says:

    Then, for Brexiteers there’s this little gem & her pronouncement:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38528058

    Enjoy!

       8 likes

    • Dave S says:

      What a confused bunch in Scotland. The voters deserve better. Grow up the lot of them Especially our Nicola who really thinks that it is possible to have a separate immigration policy for Scotland without us sealing off our border.

         22 likes

    • embolden says:

      My old, long gone, wartime generation parents would have dismissed her as a collaborator.

      We call her Krankie.

      I think we need to up our game in pointing out exactly what the SNP is about….trying to destablise the UK in support of a foreign entity….the EU.

      That statement says it all…destablising the UK is the game…long term? short term?….regardless.

         26 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Are there more recent signs, embolden, of her support starting to decline? The elections last May were none-too brilliant for the SNP.

        Hopefully her little attempted intervention will lead to:
        More in Scotland wishing they had voted Leave (the EU! not UK), and
        More across the UK wanting to be totally out of the EU a.s.a.p.

           17 likes

      • G says:

        Embolden, others have said it here before and I agree with them, call her bluff. The UK Government should set up another referendum and live by the results. If that means Scotland leaving so be it. We’ll manage without them. Question is, will they manage without us? I believe that three-quarters of the Scots trade is with England and roughly a quarter with the EU. The Garden Gnome will not get away with being exempt from Schengen so, Jocks, out on your own except for the EU, look forward to hundreds of thousands of illiterate Africans and Arab Muslims soon – if Merkel has her way – and the best of (dare I say) ‘British’.
        If we don’t resolve this soon, we will put up with the Scots whingeing for ever more. It’s like a small feral animal waiting its opportunity to, ‘stick the knife in’ whenever it can.

           11 likes

        • Grant says:

          G,

          Please don’t judge us all by the SNP. A substantial number of us hate them and realise that they are racist idiots.

             12 likes

          • wronged says:

            I notice that the polls depict support for the SNP is plummeting. The Tories are now (according to the polls)the second biggest party. I wish it were UKIP but alas. UKIP will not get a foothold in Scotland because they want rid of the appallingly unfair Barnett formula.

            The older,wiser electorate of Scotland are obviously talking sense into the naive sixth form brainwashed youngsters.

               11 likes

  38. TruthSeeker says:

    From the BBC “Recruitment Daily and Gravy Train Quango Enabler” 2017:01:06.
    “In Britain, it’s not just the train toilets that disabled people can’t get into Chloe Timms”

    Genuinely sorry to read about this unenviable predicament Chloe. A predicament which could have been avoided if the Labour Party had not chosen to import superfluous millions of Labour voters (ie expensive enemies) for the past twenty years. Avoided if the Labour Party had not given £ hundreds of billions to the wasteful, dictatorial, anti Western EU, for the past twenty years. Avoided if the same useless Labour Party was not also giving £ hundreds of billions in foreign “aid” during the same period.
    Borrowed, interest attracting, money; money the UK does not have.

    In the UK (not Britain) Chloe, the organisation which claims to be concerned with your interests, and has a free ride every day in “The Guardian”, has a “leadership” whose members are unable to find standard seats in a mainly empty train. The Labour party.

    Anyone available and willing to advise Chloe, via “The Guardian”, that her hopes are baseless, she is is looking, and doubtless voting, in the wrong place? Unable to do this myself, banned.

       18 likes

  39. EnglandExpects says:

    It’s curious that, despite having over 7000 staff, the BBC News organisation fails to report news items that the rest of us pick up almost immediately. Or is it that the BBC just sits on what it regards as unwelcome news while deciding what spin to put on such news? The Cambridge academics’ report on the economic effects of Brexit was decidedly upbeat and very critical of the pre- vote Treasury analysis pushed out by Osborne as part of Project Fear. Both the Mail and the Telegraph covered the Cambridge report in detail yesterday. Not a word from the BBC. It’s Very Biased Economics Editor Mr Ahmed restricted himself to attending a Bank of England news conference at which its Chief Economist indulged in a mea culpa concerning the Bank’s excessive gloom about the short run effects of the Brexit vote. Naturally Ahmed misrepresented this and concentrated on the Bank’s continued view that the economy will slow down in 2017.
    Anyway, back to the Cambridge report. Radio 4 Toady finally caught up with it this morning. Who did they interview about it? Certainly not anyone from Cambridge University. Instead they picked on Vicky Pryce aka the ex Mrs Chris Huhne, Lib Dem politician and rabid Remainer like all his ilk. No doubt his ex feels likewise and is a former Government economist with establishment views. She couldn’t rubbish the Cambridge report but her view of it was lukewarm at best and she was still defending the Treasury’s scaremongering . As ever the biased BBC did a nice job.

       43 likes

    • GoingInNowDan says:

      Ms Pryce is a convicted criminal. No way in the world should anyone like that be on TV giving their opinion on anything.

         31 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        They’ll be some reason why Pryce has her own BBC studio master-keys; like sister, brother, friends or BBC neighbours etc.
        WikiP says “From mid-2012 to date, Vicky Pryce has been personally involved with Denis MacShane, a one-time Labour Party MP (who was himself imprisoned, in December 2013, for fraudulent claiming of Parliamentary expenses”

           8 likes

    • engineerdownunder says:

      Yes, heard the Vicky Price interview. She was very poor and probably knew it as she was on weak ground. The treatment of the Cambridge report by the BBC is yet another example proving the BBC is institutionally, deliberately anti-Brexit. The only question is far up does support for this bias go … for sure there is support and coordination with the likes of Vicky Price, Tony Blair, Supreme Court lady and their shadowy backers. But is the Government in on it?

         24 likes

      • Dave S says:

        Almost certainly but how far up the food chain is anybody’s guess. I have never trusted the May government to deliver Brexit. Few people I know have and however much the remainers and the BBc bleat on and on and on there will be a crisis in confidence in our democracy if we are conned into a soft Brexit.

           18 likes

        • BRISSLES says:

          Not so long ago, Joan Bakewell (an elegant lady now in her 80’s and one time fixture on ‘Arts’ programmes), public announced that the BBC was run by children. This comment has been made several times since by other respected broadcasters. Says it all really.

          There was a terrific advert for Haribos sweeties, where adults around the conference table are dubbed with children’s voices – it only needed for them to be constantly scanning their mobiles, and that for me sums up the BBC mentality,

             30 likes

      • Grant says:

        Why Vicky Price ? She is a total nonentity. Who gives a damn what she thinks about anything ?

           12 likes

      • Grimer says:

        It is cultural. I live in London and have many friends in the music, fashion, media sectors and they all subscribe to the BBC narrative. Virtue signalling is relentless and anybody (me) that dares to challenge the consensus is deemed ‘extreme’.

           9 likes

        • Lucy Pevensey says:

          Grimer,

          It sounds as if I’ve have similar experiences to yourself. I’ve been a musician for many years and recently some people who I thought were friends have really turned on me. Sadly. Because (although I’m not remotely Jewish) I support Israel rather than So-called “Palestine”. I like Geert Wilders, Nigel Farage & I don’t hate Trump or the Russians. Nevermind I spent a number of years attending a Nigerian church, I am called racist, xenophobe, the lot. Although I love Europe I hate the EU. That is unacceptable. Also having read the Koran & The biography of the false prophet, I understand what Islam is really about. They HATE that. And they have the MSM backing up their [rather limited] views so they feel smug in their own prejudices.

             11 likes

        • ToobiWan says:

          I think it’s more like knowing which way their bread is buttered, Grimer. How many faces do you see on TV in general, never mind just the BBC, who do not conform to the “rules of the house” and group think? My nephew lasted a day working with a BBC film crew filming a documentary for a casino bid, a Gordon Brown wheeze. His views didn’t fit. He didn’t miss the £1 per day “wage” either.

             4 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      They don’t ‘fail’; they decline, and try and call it ‘editorial integrity’.

      Few are fooled.

         6 likes

  40. Fire and Ice says:

    Has anyone else noticed the stony silence from the BBC on Niall Ferguson admitting he was wrong to back the Remain camp? It’s been a month since he admitted he was wrong:

       28 likes

  41. BRISSLES says:

    Mo Farrah being asked questions about his knighthood – and he’s still as articulate as ever – not. Mentioning ‘my country’ enough times though; so where IS that Mo ?

       24 likes

  42. Lobster says:

    I see that BBC favourite Jamie Oliver is closing 6 of his restaurants.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38528547
    Naturally, Brexit is one of the main causes (nothing to do with the prices he tries to charge,then).
    Some might say “what a load of bollocks”, but I couldn’t possibly comment.
    Apparently the Australian side of the business went bust last year, clearly due to Austrexit.

       44 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Maybe a story to take with a pinch of salt? Or sugar. One of the two.

         15 likes

    • richard D says:

      Hmmmm…. Mr Oliver is such an advocate of fresh ingredients, that I had supposed that all the fish, fruit, meat and vegetables used in his restaurants would have been sourced locally rather than processed and/or frozen before being imported from Italy.

      So that leaves us with pasta flour (again, I had thought that perhaps his restaurants made their own pasta – fresh, daily) and a bit of olive oil to be imported. I hadn’t noticed any great increase in any of these, nor in Italian wines, since Brexit. But lo ! – Mr Oliver complains that the drop in the value of the pound against the Euro since Brexit, with a commensurate increase for Italian products, has caused these restaurant closures !

      Really ? A drop (from pre-June 2016 figures – not from the false peak the day before the Brexit vote) in the value of sterling of around 6% – 7% for a tiny portion of your costs causes that sort of effect on your business ? Wow – I wouldn’t invest in you or your businesses if they have that sort of vulnerability, mate !

      Add to this the increase in consumer spending over the past year – and especially in service industries, as we have heard in the last couple of days….

      I’m with you, Mr Crustacean, what he’s now peddling is a load of bollocks – and he didn’t need to pay to import any of that from Italy.

         18 likes

    • Marion says:

      Who cares? If the demand is there, someone else will come along. That’s the way with restaurants, they come and go all the time. Nobody is starving.

      Probably due to a change in eating habits – sit down meals out, buckets of chicken, 10lb hamburgers and 36″ takeaway pizzas in.

         12 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Just as an update, the Express is reporting on this now. The comments are not 100% supportive of Mr Oliver for some reason ……
      http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/751004/jamie-oliver-blames-brexit-for-six-Italian-restaurant-closures

         11 likes

    • wronged says:

      I’ve been to one of his restaurants just the once.

      Food down the waiters apron, food basic, no plates just wooden slab encouraging bacteria, over priced,small portions and a bit ‘huffy’ when I told them to their face what I thought of their restaurant. I was polite in providing my customer feedback.
      I did not give them a tip.

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      • Lobster says:

        Looks like Wetherspoons aren’t too impressed.

        JD WETHERSP00N
        ‏@WetherspoonsUK

        Hi @jamieoliver these restaurants you are closing because of ‘Brexit’ we will take them because we know how to run a successful business!?

        JD WETHERSP00N ‏@WetherspoonsUK 4h4 hours ago

        This has nothing to do with Brexit, it’s because his food is no better than ours but four times the price! https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/06/jamie-oliver-close-restaurants-brexit-jamies-italian-barbecoa

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        • Grant says:

          Lobbie,

          Tim Martin would have been one of my choices to replace the chinless wonder as “EU Ambassador “.

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          • Lobster says:

            Grant – I’ll drink to that! (Sorry!)

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          • Grimer says:

            I went to a Wetherspoons before the Brexit vote and there was a Wetherspoons magazine that provided more information on the arguments, both for and against, than the BBC managed in their entire output. Mr Martin is a famous Brexit campaigner, but the magazine articles were very balanced and took care to allow both viewpoints to have equal weight. That is how things should be done on the BBC, but they can’t even see the problem.

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  43. Guest Who says:

    As he features a fair bit:

    http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/292247/man-in-the-middle-tucker-carlson-is-safe-choice-f.html?

    “they did it without regard to expectations from some quarters that the replacement show for “The Kelly File” would be anchored by a woman”

    ‘Some quarters’ indeed:)

    Susannah, Kate, Emily, Danny, etc will be weeping into their sagging bustlines.

    It is just possible he was the best for the job. Unlike just about every BBC hire, or one Jo is moved into Andrew Neil’s comfy chair.

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  44. Guest Who says:

    Just booted the radio off again. Classic FM reckons Joe Biden’s wisdom to the president elect is top news.

    It really isn’t.

    Wonder if and where the BBC will place this?

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  45. quisquose says:

    Did anybody else hear the economics slot on the Today Programme this morning? At 6:16 we were treated to Sophie Michael the National Head of Retail and Wholesale at BDO telling us that December’s “HIGH STREET SALES WERE DOWN!” Get that?

    This wasn’t based on official numbers, it was based on BDO’s market research. Now I’m not going to say that they are wrong, but since when have the BBC gone with speculation rather than fact? (Stop sniggering at the back) Okay, what I mean is that I listen to this slot every day and I’ve never heard them mention the BDO numbers before. Could it possibly be that the numbers were down, so they could go “oh woes Brexit, oh woes currency, oh woes inflation”?

    The fact that online sales were up was glossed over, it’s an ongoing trend, nothing to do with Brexit, we all know that.

    The fact that the next guest, Mark Neal of Mountain Warehouse, said that they had record sales in December, was glossed over.

    Back in August, after bullish economics data had been published which was dismissed as irrelevant because it was too early, I posted here that Dominic O’Connell had announce with glee that “at last we now have some negative data about confidence that could be a true indicator of Brexit”. Later that morning I did a google search on the data, and the organisation responsible for it, and I could find nothing at all.

    So as far as the BBC is concerned there’s “our data” and everything else must be “fake data”.

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Another example of the rotten BBC’s bias was its sudden conversion to the charms of the FTSE 250 last year, when the FTSE 100 (now at a record high) stubbornly refused to collapse ‘because of Brexit’. FTSE 250 may or may not be a better guide to some trends than the more well known 100 index but I doubt the BBC cares about that, when it is simply looking for opportunities to stir trouble and block Brexit. Scrap it!

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    • Grant says:

      quis,

      High street sales are irrelevant. It is the total sales, including online which matter. But Beeboids are too stupid to understand that .

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    • StewGreen says:

      BBC probably has a * Department of Brexit Negativity * with it’s own skyscraper building
      ……….. and a sub-office in Brussels.

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  46. Thoughtful says:

    TWATO today has spouted some appalling bias.

    Anti Trump by reinforcing the narrative the Russians won the US election, even though there’s no actual evidence to show they did.

    Anti Brexit By allowing more Scottish Nationalist calls for a second independance referendum

    Pro Multiculturalism by proclaiming its success in Smethwick because some ‘Asians’ took over an old pub and turned it into an ‘Indian restaurant’. It’s so good that it only manages to warrant two stars on a review site:

    https://www.zomato.com/birmingham/red-cow-smethwick/menu

    Only interviews with Effniks and no comments from the locals prove that indeed this is a multiculti success – by the BBCs policy of ethnic cleansing of the hated white people.

    Then more anti Brexit anti Theresa the ditherer, because she doesn’t know what to do next (difficult to argue with this one!)

    Attacks on Teresa Mays SPADS

    Then the latest radio 1 award fr the next undiscovered talent, first time I’ve heard them ever even talk about this until I looked who they chose:

    17b745311d46852796d1f62ca2182222cd1db857

    No surprises there then !

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  47. GoingInNowDan says:

    On the so-called BBC’s website today.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-38460917

    Not quite sure what this is doing in the Education section but “Spiralling debt nightmare cost us our home”. Get the violins out and hankies at the ready as you read about poor “hardworking couple” Helen and Tim. “Because I was struggling to pay the mortgage, I was taking money out on my credit card.” Which is about the dumbest thing someone already in debt can do.

    How dare your creditors expect you to pay them back?

    You never know, the story might even be true.

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    • Marion says:

      “Almost simultaneously, Tim’s income, from his window cleaning job, was cut in half after a change of contract.”

      Nothing to do with being undercut by someone else, by any chance?

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    • Grimer says:

      It is easy to dismiss people in this situation as idiots, but society presents the concept of accruing debt to buy consumer goods as ‘normal’. People are not taught the consequences of compound interest and the benefits of living within their means.

      A friend of mine, who is not at all academically gifted, described a credit card as ‘borrowing money from yourself, that you probably can’t afford to pay back, at an extortionate interest rate’. Which I think is the best explanation I have ever heard.

      One thing that is mentioned in the article is

      “You can’t really think when you are constantly being called by creditors”.

      I know for a fact that some of the shops that provide credit to customers use automated dialling software. Some people are called 20+ times a day, which must be horrific if you’re drowning in debt.

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  48. G says:

    The Mail on Sunday carries out a Freedom of Information Act request in relation to the so-called, “child refugees”. Guess what the reply they received reveals?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4078702/amp/Those-man-child-migrants-old-29-Hundreds-adult-asylum-seekers-lied-age-order-enter-Britain.html
    The State controlled by the Government is seriously failing the voter and continues to put the people in danger.

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    • StewGreen says:

      OK that’s general “child refugees”
      – It didn’t give stats for the recent Calais imports.

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