Boxing Day Open Thread

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Hope you all got the socks you wanted from Santa and may the baby Jesus guide you  to the best bargains in the sales.  However back to business here and a new year is fast approaching…a new year but same old bias…..The BBC’s new year revolution?  No more bias?  Guess that’ll be broken day one.  If so you know the drill…..

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837 Responses to Boxing Day Open Thread

  1. wronged says:

    ‘Watch out watch out there is a maxi-troll about !’

    Food for Taffman.

    So then,George Michael is dead. We are told by the BBC that he died of heart failure.That should be enough information for the ‘thick’ public to ask any questions as to how he died.

    Not me. Doesn’t everyone die of heart failure. The ‘heart failure’ line tells me nothing. My question is what caused his heart to fail aged just 53. Drugs overdose maybe, never got over a former lover?
    The coroners inquest will tell us more I suppose.

    I am now going to ask a question which is a bit contentious, George Micheal was in all probability an insecure talented attention seeker,a bit of a well meaning lost soul in life. My question is if George committed suicide, did he time it for maximum publicity on Christmas Day or is it coincidental? We will never know.

    I am sad that he died, he sounded like a nice bloke albeit mentally tortured.

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    • taffman says:

      Very sad, If it was drugs, perhaps all the film, pop and media stars could form a ‘Super Group’ and sing a song called ‘Say no to Drugs’, to kick start an anti-drug abuse campaign in memory of the poor chap who did do so much for charity?
      Drug abuse appears to blight so many in the media and limelight.
      Over to you Bob, Elton, Midge and co…

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      • BBCReject says:

        He apparently died of heart failure, almost certainly caused by bacterial pneumonia, which is a common killer of long term AIDS sufferers. As he was a promiscuous homosexual with at least one long term partner with HIV, I know what conclusions I’ve drawn.

        However, his lifestyle of binge drinking and drugs, and being overweight, clearly didn’t help his poor, abused body. I wasn’t a fan, but it’s still tragic, and he does appear to have been a genuinely kind hearted soul who leaves behind loving family and friends.

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        • pete ongyo says:

          His publicist said he died of heart failure. Must have had a crystal ball. The post mortem has not been done yet!

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          • Grant says:

            Pete,

            They can bribe the post mortem doctor. No problem. Who cares what the cause of death of a third rate “musician” is ?

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        • StewGreen says:

          There is a vaccination against bacterial pneumonia.
          Pity he hadn’t had BEFORE he got ill.

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      • Grant says:

        Taffy,

        I only heard a little of his music which seemed very bland and superficial. I mean he wasn’t exactly Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison or Robert Palmer , to name just 3.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        taffman
        Pop stars say no to drugs? Spoil the rich pickings of their comrades in Afghanistan, Pakistan etc who sell them to the hated infidels . That would be racist.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Wronged… Doesn’t everyone die of heart failure….
      Something I too have always wondered. Your heart stops, you die, regardless of what you die OF. Soooooo heart failure ???

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    • Rick Bradford says:

      It’s probably a fair generalisation that anyone who goes into a fan-based profession like show business is trying to fill an internal void with the proxy adulation of fans.

      The person doesn’t much like themselves, so they hope that if millions of people tell them how adorable they are, it will rub off on them.

      It never works, of course. They are just as lonely and insecure at the top as they were at the bottom, only with more money and more distractions to prevent them having to look at the void inside.

      The list of suicidal or self-destructive superstars is almost endless.

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    • Colboysigma says:

      My wife is a senior GP and apparently “heart failure” is not a cause of death. There has to be a reason behind it…Makes sense for the PR machine not to share root cause.

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  2. Steve Jones says:

    This might have been covered before but I thought you would all like an update on our favourite charity Christmas single:
    http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2016-12-23/jo-cox-charity-single-misses-out-on-christmas-no-1-spot/
    There is some reporting worthy of the BBC here. The headline reads ‘Jo Cox charity single misses out on Christmas No 1 spot’. Possibly just pipped to the post I thought until I read a bit further down ‘However, despite getting into the iTunes Top 10, and raising more than £35,000, the song was at number 136 in the final chart before Christmas Day.’
    So, it only missed the number one spot by 135 places. Ha,ha,ha,ha. Sounds like a resounding thumbs down from Joe Public. These lefties will do anything for the cause other than dip into their own pockets.
    I await some scathing comments from our new resident troll.

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    • taffman says:

      Steve Jones
      The troll must be still in bed?
      😉

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    • Lobster says:

      Steve – it sounds like that record missed out on the No. 1 spot in the same way that I missed out on the Lotto jackpot. I don’t do the lottery …..

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    • Doublethinker says:

      One thing that we know for certain is that Jo Cox’s charity did not begin at home, in fact anywhere but home. She was much more interested in and devoted to people in far away countries than in her own constituents. She certainly did not put Britain first. My advice to her former constituents is that if they want an MP to represent their best interests then don’t vote Labour.

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  3. Foscari says:

    I always thought that the time for us Jews in the UK to move out was when Paul Dacre and his Daily Malicious thought it was populist to attack the Jews in the UK. A few years ago there was a front page story in the Mail which started ” This black, lesbian jewish activist.” So we have always been down the pecking order so far as the Mail’s bigotry and racism is concerned.
    The occasional picture of some jewish villain wearing a scull cap just to make sure you knew he was a yid was as far as the would go. However, always been there or there abouts the BBC looks like its going to be opportunist and take over this mantra.
    Yes we all know of the hate the likes of Orla Guerrin, Jeremy Bowen etc etc have for Israel but now with Donald Trump supporting Israel the liberal fascists at the BBC are going to attempt to kill two birds with one stone. Trump and the Yids. How dare the BBC show
    a Trump E Mail supporting Israel followed by one telling Trump that the Jews caused two World Wars!!
    The BBC will say that they are just showing antisemitism. I will say to them that they are showing the Trump comment which they vehemently disagree with everything they possess , followed by——-!!!
    No, it’s not the Malicious right now that is turning into Die Stuermer. But I will really
    start filling my bags if we start to see the BBC continuing its ” impartiallity” with its
    comments on Trump and Israel.

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  4. Framer says:

    Watching a number of repeats on various channels over Christmas, I began to wonder which series has the most consistently left wing/p.c. script writers and or commentators?
    I have narrowed the top three down to:
    Inspector George Gently
    Who do you think you are?
    Foyle’s War.
    Are there more extreme examples?

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I’d say Inspector George Gently, although he is allowed to smoke!

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    • Cranmer says:

      BBC News at Ten?

      Seriously though, I’ve been watching ‘Peaky Blinders’ on Netflix (I don’t have access to BBC, but I believe it was a BBC serial).

      It’s actually quite good and accurate for the time of its setting. But I note that the writers have subtly made it clear that the head gangster, Thomas Shelby, although he murders, tortures, maims, intimidates, steals and cheats people, is NOT:

      Homophobic: he is shown shaking hands and approving of his sister’s gay lodger
      Racist: he has a black man and his son in his gang, and tortures and kills a man who calls him a ‘nigger’.
      Sexist: He makes a point of allowing the women folk in the family to be involved in the gang’s plans and says he is a supporter of womens’ rights.

      Now, there’s nothing wrong with this…it’s just the way the writers feel that in order for a character to appeal to modern viewers, even a morally corrupt character, it MUST be made clear that he does not commit any modern ‘sins’.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Is there a single BBC programme nowadays that doesn’t have an agenda shoehorned into it?

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        • Scroblene says:

          Johnny, we haven’t watched a single BBC or ITV ‘series’ for several years now. We only ever see the news – briefly – at six o’clock to see who’s died, and recently, that’s been a huge turn-off after a few minutes yawning. I do listen to ‘Up all night’ if I’m awake, and even then, Rhod Sharpe is so weedy, I usually nod off after a few minutes. Dotun’s a better bet, but probably controlled along the line.

          We spend any watching time with great DVDs of Hi de Hi, Morcambe and Wise, Lovejoy, Del Boy etc.

          No agendas on those treasures, and so much funnier too!

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          • StewGreen says:

            Rhod used to be super professional then he got SJW zombie virus.
            Dotun token black man, has learned on the job but is not a patch on the old Rhod.

            Dr Karl used to be super sharp, but then as years passed became more and more flawed … Green zombie etc.

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            • JosF says:

              About the only thing in the BBC’s usual misserable output this christmas/new year holiday so far that I have bothered to watch is the Royal Institute christmas lectures, As for the rest of the BBC’s output the less said the better

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  5. Roland Deschain says:

    Richard Hammond is criticised for gay ice cream joke on Amazon show

    But Twitter users aren’t happy about the comments.

    Aww, how sad. They’re not happy. Well, perhaps they should just learn to be less fucking sensitive.

    But nice of the BBC to put it up prominently on their news webpage to fan the flames.

    Memo to Hammond: Do not, under any circumstances, apologise. Even if you do regret saying it. You will just be seen as weak and the vultures will circle, sensing a feeding frenzy.

    P.S. Apologies for the language, but sometimes it’s the only way to get across just how sick I am of the “How dare you have a different view of life to me” brigade.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Not all Twitter users seem to take it quite as seriously.

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      • Grant says:

        I am just back from the Co-op where I bought a tub of ice cream for my mother who is not gay. But really, has this country sunk so low that this is a big news story ? I mean Richard Hammond, not me !

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        • Lobster says:

          Grant – I am gay but I must confess that I haven’t checked my Carte D’Or lately (Oooh missus!). I usually go to Fortnum and Mason, but I think I’ll just pop down to Lidl instead.

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          • Grant says:

            Lobbie,

            Typical gay, only the best ice cream is good enough. I stick to co-op own brand ! I mean I would not want people to get the wrong idea and it saves money.

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          • Grimer says:

            As a heterosexual male (in denial?) I absolutely love the Lidl version of Almond Magnums. In fact Mrs Grimer and I consider them better than the Unilever originals.

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        • nogginator says:

          😀 Chocolate Log anyone?
          Oops! … I ll get me coat

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    • The Duck says:

      “But nice of the BBC to put it up prominently on their news webpage to fan the flames”

      Instead what they’ve actually achieved is to give The Grand Tour a nice little bit of free advertising. In reality I doubt too many people are offended, or even care, what Richard Hammond said.

      I also wonder if his comments were deliberately intended to annoy the BBC crowd. I seem to remember a few years ago that Clarkson got into hot water for saying exactly the same thing about a car (a Nissan Micra I think).

      I notice in the article that Hammond also had a dig at the BBC when driving past the Cenotaph.

      Nice one Hammond, keep it up!

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      • BBCReject says:

        Just had a double chocolate ice cream from Lidl, and it was good.

        My thought is that The Grand Tour won’t do too well in Italy now. FFS Hammond made a joke, it was a crap joke, really not funny, but so what, who cares? Just shows how desperate the BBC is to bury the news they don’t want us all to see because it doesn’t go along with their chosen narrative.

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  6. nogginator says:

    I ve been following this for a few days, I don t know how the Al BBC will distort this one, but I sense it coming.
    Surprised they re not on it already.
    Following the never ending wave of hate crime hoaxes, both here and in the US.
    Its ABC News Network, and News Week are now highlighting the hardships on Muslims that cause them to deliberately falsify all manner of “hate crimes”. (shakes head!)

    … its obviously the increasing wave of Islamic erm “mental illness” isn t it?,
    or orchestrated outbreaks of violence by the international consortium of “lone wolves”
    … who knows, maybe its just so bad for Islamic adherent’s here, we re so wicked to them in the west, compared to the Islamic “paradises” they were desperate to get away from?
    Such an warping, an inversion of reality, makes you think your going down the rabbit hole.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-muslims-concerned-false-reports-hate-crimes-unfairly/story?id=44345100
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/12/26/abc-news-worries-hate-hoaxes-discredit-muslims/
    http://www.newsweek.com/yasmin-seweid-falsified-hate-crime-muslim-women-pressure-532525

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    • johnnythefish says:

      She was then pictured going into court on charges for faking a police report with a shaved head and eyebrows sans hijab, a Muslim headdress. Sources told the New York Daily News that her parents shaved her head as punishment and were similarly upset that she was dating a Christian.

      Ha ha ha ha ha! OMG, it’s the gift that keeps on giving.

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  7. NoLiveTVinMyHouse says:

    I’m in shock! Just read an opinion article on English language Deutsche Welle that drew attention to the one-sided, anti-Putin/Assad treatment by Western media over the years and its love affair with the ‘gallant’ moderate rebels of East Aleppo.
    To put this into perspective, it’s as if the ‘B’BC and Guardian did a hit-piece on the White Helmets.

    Here’s the link:
    http://www.dw.com/en/opinion-only-good-and-bad-in-syria/a-36916146#disqus_thread

    PS – Don’t forget to have a shufti at the comments below the article. I suspect that many of them may resonate with the denizens of this blog.

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  8. StewGreen says:

    The BBC complaining about fake news is like McDonalds complaining about hamburgers
    H/t @m4gw on Twitter

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  9. Thoughtful says:

    Israel curbs working ties with nations that voted for UN resolution

    Not reported on the BBC yet

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/26/politics/israel-benjamin-netanyahu-diplomatic-ties/

    I’ve long thought Netanyahu is more like a spoilt child than a serious politician. No one owes the state of Israel a free pass, and with a new US President only a few weeks away it is like watching a spoilt child throw its toys out of the pram.

    He must care nothing for the Jews living in other parts of the world suffering anti-Semitism because he has played right into the anti-Semites hands.

    He should have known Obama was little more than a Saudi puppet seeking the destruction of their lands and more than ready to allow their enemies the tools to do it.

    Israel needs a new president and fast !

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Joining the dots….the UN is blatantly anti-Israel and Obama is a UN Agenda 21 stooge.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Delingpole story I missed
    \\ National Trust plans to stage a special season of LGBT (that’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) events entitled Prejudice And Pride ‘as part of the nation’s commemoration to mark 50 years since the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality’.

    It will also, reportedly, launch a guidebook revealing the lesbian and gay stories behind some of its properties.

    ..
    What are they planning for it this LGBT season, you ask? Why, it is hosting an event called ‘Sutton House Queered’.//
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4057118/Preserve-National-Trust-s-achingly-right-says-James-Delingpole.html

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Six of Britains kings & Queens since 1066 are believed to have been gay, three men three women. Without looking them up see if you know which ones?

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      • oldcrone says:

        James I Richard II Henry VI at a guess

        Absolutely no idea about the Queens … or could Victoria have been throwing a smoke screen when she said she didn’t believe women would do such a thing ?

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        • Grant says:

          oldcrone,

          Apart from the BBC, who cares ? !!

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Richard II, didn’t he meet a nasty end with a red hot poker? I think James I and William III could well have been, though the language did not exist at that time, the term “homosexual” was coined in the 19th century. There were rumours about Queen Anne and Sarah Churchill, but maybe they were just good friends?

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Having checked (I didn’t cheat) it seems Edward II may (or may not) have had the nasty end with the red hot poker. They played politics for keeps back then.

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            • Grant says:

              James the sixth King of Scotland ( first of England. You sassenachs are always behind us, so to speak ), allegedly swung both ways in more senses than one.

              His favourite was , apparently, Lord Lennox, ” Esme “. The clue is in the name .

              But at least he gave us the best translation of the Bible.

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          • Thoughtful says:

            OK I’ll tell you.

            William II ‘Rufus’ apparently surrounded himself with ‘effeminate men’

            Richard I The Lionheart allegedly shared his bed with Philip II of France, and left his wife the day after they married.

            Edward II with Piers Gaveston who appeared to be his life long partner, died by the red hot poker.

            Mary I rumoured – unproven

            Queen Anne & Sarah Churchill as mentioned

            ALas I’ve lost the third !

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            • Cranmer says:

              I couldn’t really care less, but I would imagine that more than one academic has done research on whether Elizabeth I, of blessed memory, was a lezzer of the butch variety. Lots of pointers: strong woman in a man’s role who never married, stated openly that she had the ‘heart and soul of a king’ etc. What these people seem to forget is that concepts of ‘gay’ and ‘straight’ are relatively recent; in Elizabethan times things were a lot more, ahem, ‘fluid’.

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              • Grant says:

                Cranmer,

                Exactly !

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              • Thoughtful says:

                the current conspiracy theory is that Elizabeth I was a male who was a changeling as the young Elizabeth died in childhood. If you believe that kind of thing.

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          • Lucy Pevensey says:

            Rob in Cheshire
            “Richard II, didn’t he meet a nasty end with a red hot poker? I think James I and William III could well have been, though the language did not exist at that time, the term “homosexual” was coined in the 19th century.”

            I think they used to just call it what it is. Sodomy or b*ggery.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Apply the opposite case test to check equality. Would the NT stage special events to celebrate heterosexuality ?
      Would it celebrate other minority sexual practices, say sadomasochists or swingers?
      No, therefore celebrating gays is discrimination not pro equality.
      I would not object if special interest groups finance their own events/materials at NT properties, just dont use general money.

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  11. SupportOurLefty says:

    Friends! I am – literally – flying to the Far-Right Italy tomorrow to spend a few days with my Hard-Right girlfriend, so am just – literally – popping in here to wish all my friends here a Very Happy New Year :).

    I won’t be on the internet much for the next few days, though I may knock out the – literally – odd Tweet from time to time. And if there’s anyone here – and my deepest sympathy goes out to them, if so – who would like to see them, I’m pleased to announce I’ve now managed to put a Twitter feed on to my Blog, which means you can now see my 20 most recent Tweets there without having to look at the Far-Right Twitter, as they are all there on the Hard-Right WordPress too!

    So below is a link to a Blog from earlier this year (the Tweets appear on all the previous Blogs too) – I’m picking this particular one because quite a few of you will have seen my more recent ones, and this one just happens to be the piece which for various reasons I’m most pleased with, from the 70 or so I’ve written since it started in February. It also contains the reason why I regularly confuse Owen Jones with Owen Smith (if anyone still remembers the latter!).

    The Tweets appear on the – literally – Right-hand side, about a third of the way down (below Archives). BTW, a piece I wrote in the Far-Right Guardian this morning is linked in on the most recent tweet!

    Anyway, take care of your good selves, friends! And a – literally – happy, healthy and prosperous New Year to you all :).

    https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/now-that-friend-eagle-has-done-the-right-thing-it-is-time-for-the-far-right-neoliberal-red-tory-traitor-owen-so-called-jones-to-call-off-this-totally-unwanted-divisive-unnecessary-and-above-all/

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    • Grant says:

      Support,

      Same to you, but I am not sure whether to take you literally.

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      • SupportOurLefty says:

        Friend Grant! I literally thank you :).

        You should – literally – always take me literally, except when my comments are clearly not intended to be taken – literally – literally.

        Hope I’ve – literally – made things clear here.

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        • Grant says:

          Support,

          With all due respect , and I mean this most sincerely, are you really going to Italy ? Nice ice cream there, if you know what I mean . Girlfriend, yeah right.

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  12. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    In the news it appears that voters in some areas (muzzie areas that is) will need to take photographic proof such as a driving licence or passport to be able to vote.
    Will they have to take the head cover off or can they be identified through the eye slits.

    Not the bbbc I know but I’ve just been watching Maigret on itv with Rowan Atkinson as Maigret.
    He’s another one who isn’t funny any more, I didn’t laugh at all throughout the program. He just wasn’t funny.
    No silly talking or falling down. Not anywhere near being as funny as Blackadder or Mr. Bean.

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    • Grant says:

      Emmanuel,

      Wait for the next BBC ” Drama ” ” Maigret , the Comedy “, starring ….. ( fill in as appropriate ).

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I believe that this will be trialled first, and it will need to be with the councils co-operation. Can you seriously see a Labour council which will allow anyone to question the honesty of their favourite brown eyed boys, or stop them from doing exactly as they please regardless of how illegal it might be?

         17 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        Given the technical sophistication of the government’s number plate recognition system and the speed with which it can bring miscreants to book, isn’t a licence plate screwed to the forehead a possible solution here?

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    • RJ says:

      “Will they have to take the head cover off or can they be identified through the eye slits.”

      EG, I look forward to the trial of the iris scanners to enable us infidels to carry out identity checks while respecting the inate modesty of muslim women. Until now the BBC haven’t been keen on the technology, but I expect a change of policy in the new year.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36783515

      Of course fans of “Demolition Man” know a way to cheat the system; although it is a bit bloody.

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      • Ricks Assessment says:

        Great film. Watch him deal with future snowflakes, it’s like Bernard Manning turning up on the Breakfast sofa – they shit their nappies.

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  13. Cranmer says:

    After a surprisingly good Christmas Day service at my local C of E (Book of Common Prayer, both Prayers for the Queen’s Majesty said, no guitars, screens or trendy vicars in sight) I had lunch with an elderly relative who still takes the Radio Times. I was amused to find in the R4 programme descriptions that ‘homophobia in Africa is a legacy of British colonialism’, the writer going on to describe homophobia in Islamic northern Nigeria without the slightest hint of irony or awareness.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I had no idea the Prophet (pbuh) was British, though given how many of his followers are so keen to acquire British passports, it all begins to make sense.

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    • Grant says:

      Cranmer,

      Funny, but Mugabe , Jammeh and the others do not blame their hatred of homosexuals on British Colonialism. It would be a great topic for a fearless, in depth, BBC “documentary” . The BBC could contrast their obsession with ” Gay Icons ” with many African Presidents’ hatred of them .

      The BBC may even enquire into how many gays in Gambia are in Mile 2 prison now. And they could keep pushing the point of muslim intolerance of gays and the murder of gays. But they BBC will not do that .

      Double standards ? Hypocrisy ?

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  14. G.W.F. says:

    This story of a homeless man set on fire by Moslems was mentioned by someone here yesterday. It has reached the Daily Mail. BBC will await the backlash and tell of a rag been pulled off a woman’s head as retaliation

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4067902/Seven-migrants-arrested-homeless-man-set-fire-Christmas-Eve-Berlin-subway-station.html?ito=social-facebook

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    • Thoughtful says:

      That would have been me who posted yesterday. No surprise to find another atrocity by people who appear to view burning Khuffar alive as a national sport. One wonders if the Leugen presse will report this in Germany or whether like here, fear of a meaningless word (Racism) will prevent them.

      It really is time that false allegations of ‘racism’ are made a criminal offence as the effect of them is far too disproportionate, and there’s no comeback on the accuser.
      If Police can be so afraid of it, it can prevent them charging child rapists then it really is past the time for legislation.

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      • RJ says:

        “It really is time that false allegations of ‘racism’ are made a criminal offence as the effect of them is far too disproportionate, and there’s no comeback on the accuser.
        If Police can be so afraid of it, it can prevent them charging child rapists then it really is past the time for legislation.”

        There used to be a saying amongst NHS managers that if UNISON hadn’t made at least one formal complaint against you you weren’t doing your job properly. Perhaps an allegation of “racism” on your file needs to become a requirement to be considered for promotion in the police. Or perhaps that would discriminate against police officers in some (but not many) of the shire counties.

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    • Grant says:

      GWF,

      The scum at the BBC will not report this. They are so stupid that they do not realise that there are many news sources. The Emperor Nero would be proud of them. Idiots.

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    • nogginator says:

      Here is my post from yesterday :-

      “Berlin – Homeless man set alight by seven attackers … AT CHRISTMAS!
      Germany? BERLIN?? BBC???
      “Seven attackers set a homeless man on fire at a Berlin subway station, police have said. The authorities are now investigating the case as an attempted murder and have released CCTV images of the suspects.”
      BBC? … Anything??
      … NO??? Even after that lady was kicked down the stairs there, in the subway by a gang?

      but I notice on your Euronews page that “IKEA sleepovers” must end”

      Just re-checked BBC Euro News page … still nothing.

      Still have room for this though … from 23 DEC!
      “three passengers on BA flight enjoy champagne and selfies”

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  15. MartinW says:

    I wonder how the BBC will report the delightful news that Nigel Farage has been invited to Donald Trump’s inauguration, and will take a seat on the inaugural platform to watch the swearing-in ceremony. Or will they they adopt their other option of ‘bias by omission’?

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    • Grant says:

      MartinW,

      A wonderful stiff finger to the BBC and all Leftoids. It is just getting better every day !

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Grant
      It is going to get better when the BBC find it difficult to get direct news from the White House

      Make no mistake. This is a snub to the British Government and Treezer better start mending fences. Sucking up to Merkel is not the future for Britain

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      • Grant says:

        GWF,

        I quite agree. Treezer should be looking at USA, Russia, China and India. Don’t waste time on Europe. But Treezer is small-minded and ignorant. I would not expect her to change her little mind now. The question is ” Who comes next ? “.

           23 likes

  16. Grant says:

    EUTV,

    Stephen Pillock, wanker . He is so stupid that he is almost admitting that all the vote fraud is in favour of Labour. Idiot !

       18 likes

    • taffman says:

      “Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs”………….
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-37243190
      “Gabon’s opposition says it was cheated of victory, after official results showed a turnout of 99.93% in President Ali Bongo’s home region, with 95% of votes in his favour”
      Are we turning into a ‘banana republic’?

         19 likes

      • Grant says:

        Taffy,

        LOL ! Actually, West Africa is moving ahead of Europe in the democracy stakes , maybe !

           13 likes

  17. quisquose says:

    The impression I have got from the news today is that the not biased in anyway BBC doesn’t agree with having to prove who you are when you vote.

       36 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      And in the BBC’s very own opinion – or at least, one of their reporters – 700 instances of voting fraud amongst a voting population of 51 million in the 2015 election isn’t worth making a fuss about. At least that was what she inferred else why bother mentioning it at all.

         23 likes

      • taffman says:

        “700 instances of voting fraud amongst a voting population of 51 million in the 2015 election isn’t worth making a fuss about.”
        A statement made by the ‘apologists’ that completely devalues and undermines all that Great Britain stands for – Democracy . A hard earned liberty gained by our ancestors over the last four hundred years and given on a plate to the ungrateful immigrants who are arriving on our shores and are undermining all it stands for.

           51 likes

        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          Well said Taffman. I would also like to add that in the ‘First Past The Post’ voting system that the UK is lumbered with a few hundred illegal votes strategically placed can easily make the difference in a few seats enough to swing the result of a general election.
          It is time to tighten up procedures.
          It is also time to bring in proportional representation. This time the Lib Dems must not front the movement. I wouldn’t put them in charge of a broom.

             27 likes

          • Scroblene says:

            “This time the Lib Dems must not front the movement. I wouldn’t put them in charge of a broom”.

            Yes Yasser, and like Trigger’s, it will have had three new heads and four new handles.

               10 likes

      • Lobster says:

        “700 instances of voting fraud amongst a voting population of 51 million in the 2015 election isn’t worth making a fuss about.”
        But one instance of “*****phobic” graffiti is, of course.

           31 likes

    • AaronD says:

      I was slightly baffled by these news reports since I was previously under the impression that the main bulk of the fraud problem lay in the postal voting system, as far as I remember untackled today by the BBC’s newshounds – although I could be mistaken. The government measures reported on seem to do absolutely nothing to come to terms with this issue, and the BBC left it well alone. I wonder why? Although they did manage to wheel out jolly little Stevie Kinnock to tell us that it was all an evil Tory plot to further kick Labour in the goolies.

         29 likes

      • Grant says:

        Aaron,

        What is so funny is that the BBC and other Left-wing media tacitly assume that the voting fraud is Labour. They are so stupid. They give the game away !

           12 likes

  18. StewGreen says:

    Anyone here know how to hitchhike ?
    Well, do you think BBC metropolitan elite know about hitchhiking ?
    Yep FA : R4 Ipm made a right mess.
    After reading letters from pensioners who hitched they decided to hitch to one of.the pensioners in Kings Lynn.

    #1 Since Ipm’s right-on they sent a female reporter Manveen Rana , but then added a male chaperone.
    #2 Marveen the posh girl decided to start from right in the middle of London outside Broadcasting House with an M11 sign and wasted 2 hours.
    (Jesus
    hitching = Cooperation
    so you don’t want to be wasting peoples time if they are not going in your direction.)
    #3 They eventually figure out to take a tube to the M11 , but they still don’t stand in the right spot. ie the safest stop nearest the motorway entrance.
    So it takes them ages to get a ride.
    #4 They get a ride with a guy going to Lincolnshire and he agrees to go out of his way to drop them at Kings Lynn. Then they never mentioned hitching back.
    So in an item about hitching they spoke to only one lift giver.
    – What I would have done is got the first guy to drop you at a good spot after 1 hour, cos travel is not about the destination but the JOURNEY. That means you get there having met 3 or 4 lift givers.

    Then it turns out Manveen Rana was the girl who won an award for covering a Syrian refugees journey from Greece to Germany .
    It’s amazing she knows so little about travelling.

    Interviewing the pensioner woman Marveen did the normal non hitcher thing of fishing for horror stories.The only one the pensioner could give is once on the last bit to her village she’d got a ride from car thieves who’d stopped off at the pub to buy her drink.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084dt44

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Xmas Lecture : eco-propaganda. There’s a discussion in the comments of Paul Homewood’s blogpost

    Rule of Thumb : Energy maths is complex, but Green Dreamers will grasp simplistic explanations so get things wrong.
    eg That post is about a Guardian claim that Portugal ran on renewables for almost a week last May, but when a commenter Joe Public checked he was able to show that in the middle of that period wind had dropped and a chunk was served by Combined Heat and Power units some running on natural gas.

       16 likes

  20. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    There’s still another four days of 2016 left … plenty of time for another of the bBBC’s favoured ‘celebrity’ junkies to croak. Who will it be?

       24 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      SASG… well news just in that Carrie Fisher has passed away.

         6 likes

      • Heisenberg says:

        Note the difference between the coverage of Carrie Fisher’s death (massive banner headlines on BBC homepage and multiple links to other pages) and that of the author Richard Adams (further down the homepage and clearly not considered such a big loss to the world).

           19 likes

      • MartinW says:

        I’m not clued up on luvviedom, and genuinely did not know who Carrie Fisher was. It’s sad that anyone should die from past drug abuse, but at least it got G. Michael off the front page.

           10 likes

        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          I’m a bit the same as you Martin W. I did know who Carrie Fisher was but to the amusement of friends I thought George Michael was the same person as Boy George.

             8 likes

          • Grant says:

            Yasser,

            LOL ! Same here. But they are all equally irrelevant, dead or alive. Except to their family and friends , of course.

               4 likes

    • oldcrone says:

      Sir Arthur ..plenty of time for another of the bBBC’s favoured ‘celebrity’ junkies to croak. Who will it be?

      Will Self ?? Just picking a name out of a hat …

         5 likes

      • Grant says:

        oldcrone,

        But is that a name or a question ?

           3 likes

        • oldcrone says:

          Grant …. could be both who knows? Come to think of it .. it’s got to be a name as I’m not a junkie! .. or a “celebrity” thank God!

             2 likes

  21. Al Shubtill says:

    I heard a bit of Sara Cox on R2 this morning, there was a piece by a Muslima called “Rowena” (?) and she was talking about how she’d had a “Halal goose” for Christmas dinner and punch “non-alcoholic of course”.
    That her parents used to be given bottles of alcohol at Christmas by their infidel friends and that they used to just accept them (out of politeness) and store them away until it looked like they “had their own wine cellar”.

    Can’t al beebus let us: the majority British, have even 5 days out of the other 360 where we don’t have to pander or include Islam or its followers? Is it impossible for us to be allowed to celebrate the festival of Christ’s birth without requiring the approval of Muslims who feign to observe or understand it?

    Why do they have to attempt to include them in everything? When they have no interest in our country; our society or our culture, apart from what they can extract from it without contributing anything to it.

       88 likes

  22. Lobster says:

    I quite agree Al. On Christmas Day, I popped round to next door to visit my Asian neighbours, we exchanged presents and had a glass of wine together. They have a Christmas tree in their porch and the lounge was decorated with the usual stuff, and on leaving his wife gave me a hug and a kiss and wished me Merry Christmas. But they are Hindus, so I don’t suppose the BBC would be interested in the least.

       58 likes

    • Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

      Ditto. Last Friday I was chatting with the Sikh lady who runs our local newsagents. I ended by tentatively asking if it was OK to wish her ‘Happy Christmas’ and she said “Definitely! That’s one of the best things about being here; we celebrate Diwali, Christmas, Easter, the lot!”
      She didn’t mention Eid, however, so she obviously hasn’t absorbed enough bBBC.

         59 likes

  23. StewGreen says:

    Bbc2 Just had a trailer for Common Sense a new public participant comedy show.
    They got in 3 digs at Trump within 1 minute.

       31 likes

    • Stella2 says:

      Yep, noted here too.

      Nasty little title as well, claiming the middle ground for what will no doubt more (re)programming: “Only Certain Subjects are Funny and the BBC as Great Helmsman of Opinion will signal which are Acceptable Viewpoints”.

      And the trailer will run and run, popping everywhere up to reinforce the message. Strange, isn’t it, that we are asked to respect all kinds of people and opinions that we may or may not agree with, but the democratically-elected next President of the USA, as yet a blank sheet (no wars, murders, bad laws to his name just Thought Crime) is accorded absolutely no respect by the BBC.

         21 likes

  24. StewGreen says:

    Test If you are a Snowflake Living in Snowflake Britain Quiz
    Richard Littlejohn in the Mail.

       11 likes

  25. StewGreen says:

    Radio 5 now seem to have taken Lord Krebs Guardian article and turned it into a long Radio advert.
    “Major flooding in UK now likely every year, warns lead climate advisor.”

    Probably written by Bob Ward.

       14 likes

  26. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Headlines You Are Unlikely To See in 2017:

    “” Israel Is The Only Democracy In The Middle East. It Must Survive””

    “” Israel Is The Only Country In The Middle East That Doesn’t Kill Gays””

    “” Israel Is The Only Country In The Middle East That Supports Feminism””

    “” Israel Is The Only Country In The Middle East That Supports Christians””

    “” Israel Allows Muslims To Work and Live In Israel””

    “” No Muslim Country Allows Jews To Work And Live In Their Country””

    “”Israel Has A Welfare State Open To Muslims””

    “”Israel Has A Right To Exist””

    “” Palestinians Vow To Murder All Israelis””

    “”Israelis Do Not Vow To Murder All Palestinians””

    As a footnote, I am not Jewish. But I have been to Israel.

    I rest my case.

       40 likes

  27. Dover Sentry says:

    Not Mentioned by BBC:

    “”Corbyn hits back after Obama suggests Labour has disintegrated””

    “”Jeremy Corbyn has hit back at Barack Obama after the outgoing US President suggested Labour under his leadership had disintegrated and lost touch with reality””

    http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-hits-back-after-obama-suggests-labour-has-disintegrated-10709545

    It all gets better!

    And on January 20th, Lord Farage will be with Trump at his inauguration.

    Where will Appeaser May be? Back row, I hope.

       30 likes

    • Aerfen says:

      What a dilemma for Corbynistas , who also worship Obama.

         23 likes

    • JosF says:

      obama and corbyn having a lovers tiff two out of touch leftards losing it must have blown every braincell in the BBC news department as to cover or not cover the corbyn/obama hissy fit

         2 likes

  28. Lucy Pevensey says:

    21m9ctc.jpg

    http://oi65.tinypic.com/21m9ctc.jpg

    Just testing

       15 likes

  29. Guest Who says:

    Got to love the unique way the BBC is funded.

    And irony. Lots and lots of irony…

       30 likes

    • Number 88 says:

      Responding to concerns of voter fraud and intimation the government in consultation with the Electoral Commission have proposed a number of pilot schemes that it is thought will address the issue.

      On the Six o’ Clock News, the BBC response to this was, though, typically…err…BBC; ‘The Government HAS BEEN FORCED to defend proposals to introduce voter ID at elections in England’.

      Notice, in BBC-land, it’s always, ‘The Government has been force to defend’….or ‘Labour have criticised the Government’s handling of…’, or ‘The Government have been attacked by…’

         32 likes

      • Demon says:

        “Notice, in BBC-land, it’s always, ‘The Government has been force to defend’….or ‘Labour have criticised the Government’s handling of…’, or ‘The Government have been attacked by…’”

        So very true, although it was always (almost always) supportive of all government measures between 1997 and 2010. They wouldn’t have dreamed of starting an item with an attack on the government. Any Conservative comments would be tacked on as an after-thought or would be snarlingly attacked by the A-BBC themselves.

           25 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          Agreed Demon!

          The Government always ‘insists’ that it is something not allowable by the bbc editariat, and they have to ‘deny’ everything too – even before we’re told what it is that they’re supposed to have done in the first place!

          There is a grammar term for such wording, but quite honestly, I can’t be arsed to find out – there’s much more interesting stuff to do!

             10 likes

  30. Guest Who says:

    BBC editorial integrity…

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/more-on-that-intriguing-tweet.html

    Again, so much to report, not all can be covered.

       9 likes

    • Stella2 says:

      Guest Who, the BBC could indeed have done more to find intelligent, reasoned, middle class Leave voters who made their decision based on an understanding of how the EU works in practice, and the totalitarian direction it has taken…BUT DIDN’T.

      Hmm, given that they are a so-called world class, extraordinarily well-funded, broadcast news service full of clever know-alls, how on earth could that be allowed to happen?

      However, as so often, the BBC propagandists shot themselves in the foot. Millions of nice, normal people who are still in possession of their logical and critical facilties, can now see and hear for themselves the BBC bias to which they’d previously tended to give the benefit of the doubt.

         17 likes

  31. G says:

    Perhaps one CDU politician in Germany had woken up to the self-induced, “war” that is now raging on a daily basis in Germany. Or, perhaps he fears losing his job come the next elections.
    Pity the BBC fail to inform the viewing/listening public of the serious problems affecting Europe.
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/german-minister-we-are-in-a-state-of-war

       14 likes

  32. G says:

    First heard on the BBC? Wot a silly question! –
    http://newobserveronline.com/black-violence-sweeps-us-malls/
    Interesting: the link to the Associated Press’ change of policy regarding reporting of, ‘race’.

    Meanwhile, around the other side of the World –
    http://newobserveronline.com/african-violence-intensifies-melbourne/
    Is this a ‘pincer’ attack from different sides?

       10 likes

  33. AsISeeIt says:

    Given the old tradition of setting a flame to the Christmas Plum Pud and that other one about inviting in a homeless person from out of the cold at this festive time of year – perhaps the Syrian refugees in this report simply missunderstood or muddled these obscure aspects of european culture…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38448351

    ‘Seven young migrants have been charged with attempted murder in Germany after they allegedly tried to set a homeless man alight on Christmas Day’

    Any BBC comics looking for material…? You can have this one on me.

       21 likes

  34. Al Shubtill says:

    I like this chap’s cartoons and his latest is a good one.

    http://grrrgraphics.com/index.html

       12 likes

  35. Up2snuff says:

    Am slightly in shock. John Finnemore’s post-Boxing Day Souvenir Programme was really rather good, it contained no simplistic, poor humour with gratuitous digs at Brexit or Donald Trump (presidential election be upon him) or obviously intrusive canned or ‘adjusted’ laughter. [iPlayer, 27 December, Tuesday, BBC R4, 18.30hrs on.]. It was – literally (if I may borrow that word from our holidaying Friend) – a treat.

    Even the obvious Brexit Turkey gag line, running through the programme, was cleverly done and very subtly and cleverly did not really point fingers at Brexit voters but pointed those fingers back at the Remainers and, especially, the politicians and their media supporters both pre & post-EU Referendum.

    I missed a large chunk of this morning’s TODAY programme. Have to admit that the now traditional post-Christmas ‘Celebrity’ Editorship fills me with a sense of dread. It has some tiny benefit in that it now clearly shows up the BBC’s News & Current Affairs output as managed and manipulated. And in the past, occasionally, a Guest Editor would be quite revealing, both about themselves and their line of work, that was educative and informing as well as entertaining.

    Last year, it all became a bit too much and I exercised control over the radio ON/OFF switch from 6am- 8.59am and did not listen to the TODAY programme from Boxing Day until after the New Year.

    This morning, I switched on just to catch a news bulletin at 8.30am and I discover that the ‘Celebrity’ is a woman (uptick in the LibbyLeft tickbox), a mother of nine children (a LibbyLeft tick box left empty – plainly unsustainable), a worker in the City of London (another LibbyLeft tick box left empty or filled with downticks – she’s a Hedgie Bankster – eeeek!) and someone who voted in favour of leaving the EU (another LibbyLeft tick box left empty – er, no, this time it’s filled thick black crosses) and I cannot believe my ears.

    A Celebrity Editor who voted for Brexit!

    Amazing.

    I’m now going to have to catch-up on the whole programme.

       15 likes

  36. Sluff says:

    On Toady R4 this morning, an item about ‘experts’ and ‘economic experts’ in particular (in the context of the ‘expert opinion’ on e.g. Brexit)
    Dear old Michael Gove gave a worthwhile talk and then presenter Justin Webb ‘brought him together’ with ‘an expert, a genuine expert, former BBC economic editor Stephanie Flanders’ . No trace of irony, just a lengthy verbatim report of her on line biography. Left wing credentials in place, of course.

    In this case, proof that they are so biased they don’ t even realise how ludicrous they sound, Or indeed are.

       27 likes

    • MartinW says:

      … and, not half way through, Webb started to take sides with Flanders, so that the normal imbalance was re-established.

         10 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        It was pathetic cos within seconds of the start both Beeboids ganged up and played pulled this trick Leftmob use.
        Whatever the game they standup hands on hips and chant.
        “£350m ! Eh eh I win ! I win !”

           5 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Sluff, I seem to recall that Steffie was one economist (rare for someone at the BBC to be actually qualified for the job of EconEd!) who was very honest and frequently Blogged about what she didn’t know about an economic matter or how economists, including herself, could be wrong. She is much missed!

         2 likes

      • Grant says:

        Up2,

        I would not say that Steffie is qualified as an economist. Her degree was PPE which is really just A-levels with knobs on !

           7 likes

  37. Sluff says:

    Just a mention that on bBBC London news yesterday, the weather forecast was presented by a woman with …….only one arm, the other having been amputated or otherwise failed to grow below the elbow.

    What are the chances of that?

       12 likes

    • ToobiWan says:

      Short handed over Christmas?

         13 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Sluff – That sounds like the one who presents the weather here in the Midlands, unless there are two of them. Which wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

         6 likes

  38. Tom_Kenny says:

    Brexiteer and former Director-General of British Chambers of Commerce John Longworth gave a masterful performance when subjected to a hostile interview about Brexit on BBC R4 Today this morning.

    Interviewer was all doom & gloom, sniffily cross-examining Longworth as if he were a known crook. It seemed that Brexit was all challenges and downside; there were no questions about opportunities or upside.

    Longworth was unfased, highly articulate and made several excellent points, including nailing the myth about the inevitability of paying fees to “access the single market”. Trade occurs between businesses and individuals. Governments should “get out of the way”. Businesses & individuals in countries all over the world ALREADY trade with businesses & individuals in the EU, so why shouldn’t the UK?

    In a clear attempt to embarrass Longworth, Al Beeb’s interviewer closed the interviewer by asking him whether he had jumped or been pushed from BCC, and whether his departure had been a result of pressure from Downing Street.

    Longworth gave a pretty straight answer to the question: yes there had been an “abusive” text from a “policy wonk” at Downing Street prior to his departure, but he had been accustomed to receiving such. “Some of them seem to think they are characters in the West Wing,” he said (I paraphrase).

    Interviewer – by now completely disarmed – tried to save face by condescending: “Let’s leave it there.”

       27 likes

    • Grant says:

      Tom,

      Wish I had heard it. Yes, John Longworth is very smart. Far too clever for some dim Beeboid.

         11 likes

    • Tom_Kenny says:

      Interview with John Longworth here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_XQ1kpI4o

      Worth a listen.

         8 likes

      • Grant says:

        Tom,

        Thanks a lot. I listened and John was excellent. The Beeboid pretty dim. When will Beeboids and Remainers get it into their thick heads that the UK runs a trade deficit with the EU ? Why would the EU want to stop doing business with the UK ?

           16 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      He wasn’t a Brexiteer that is the whole point. At the time he just wanted to be balanced and say
      “Consider the Brexit scenario, there may be advantages”
      And then even before he could deliver the speech Downing Street rebuked him for daring to depart from the Project Fear narrative.
      .. Maybe he is a Brexiteer now.

         8 likes

  39. Tom_Kenny says:

    BBC R4 Today item by Michael Gove on “experts”. ‘Phanny Flanders and others were wheeled on to fret about the dangers of pooh-poohing guidance from economists, psephologists and other contemporary soothsayers.

    Annoyingly, nobody made the point that for many of us: “Brexit was not all about economics”.

    There were weighty moral and political issues at stake too, and some of them trumped the economic issues.

    Forced to choose between life in a slower-growing self-governing UK, and a faster-growing, EU-governed UK, I would take the former every time. I just happen to think that we can get self-government AND faster growth outside the EU.

    Al Beeb seems always very keen to focus on the economics of the EU / Brexit, and away from issues of sovereignty and representation. Can’t they find an expert to explain to the public why it is best that the EU be run by un-elected Commissioners?

       27 likes

    • Grant says:

      Tom,

      And the Remainer so-called expert economists have got it all wrong so far, so why listen to them ?

         24 likes

  40. Thoughtful says:

    Pro EU BBC is only too ready to report every single squeak by EU leaders, but only when the message suits them.

    Take for instance the speech given by the head of Frontex Fabrice Leggeri – the BBC doesn’t even have a single report about this man, let alone what he said over Christmas.

    “Islamic State jihadis are attempting to radicalise and arm migrants who have already entered the European Union in order to carry out horrific terror attacks on the continent, European Union security officials have warned.

    EU border chiefs fear they “must be ready” to face a new wave of attacks following a host of devastating atrocities carried out by the demonic death cult in 2016.

    Executive director of Frontex, EU border and coast guard agency, Fabrice Leggeri made the chilling warning prior to the deadly attack on the Berlin Christmas market by jihadi Anis Amri, which left 12 dead. …

    It comes after a report by Europol, the police agency for the Brussels bloc, admitted it is “indisputable” that ISIS fighters have entered Europe posing as war-ravaged refugees and they will target Britain. “

       25 likes

    • G says:

      Thoughful,
      Spare a thought for Junckers who shares the others in the EU elite in the relentless move to encourage the Islamicisation of Europe –
      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/eu-top-dog-best-way-to-fight-jihad-terror-is-with-open-borders
      Surprised the BBC didn’t publicise this.

         17 likes

      • Lobster says:

        G- It beggars belief doesn’t it? It’s a bit like saying that the best way to stop bank robberies is to take the doors off the safes.

           16 likes

        • Grant says:

          Why is it that cnuts like Juncker are never the victims of Islamic terrorism ? Of course , I would not wish it on him !

             13 likes

          • Lobster says:

            Grant – I bloody would!

               18 likes

            • Grant says:

              Lobbie,

              You got the hint ! What pisses me about scum like Juncker is that he does not personally have to face the consequences of his own stupidity. It is very noticeable that the Islamic terrorists never target the EU, the BBC , or any governments which are sympathetic to Islam , including May and her lickspittles. And these people are quite happy to buy their immunity with the deaths of innocent people. Scum.

                 18 likes

              • Oaknash says:

                Grant/Lobster – I agree with both of you regarding selection of Jihadi targets which of course never includes its dhimmi friends.

                These type of people/organisations are cowards and traitors of the worse possible sort.

                Not only could they not give a flying forniction about their fellow citizens they are so arrogant that they actively push policies which in the real world they must know will create havoc within our own societies due to increased islamisation and jihaddi action.

                It is highly unlikely that they have not been informed by intelligence and policy experts of what the results of their suicidal policies will be – yet still they plough on. Its a bit like the the captain of the Titanic deciding to ram the iceberg – just because he can.

                I am afraid it is at times like this I reach for my foil conspiracy cap – Or are they really just that stupid?

                   14 likes

                • Grant says:

                  Oak,

                  ” Forniction ” ? Who do you think you are ? cHrish ?

                  Where is he , by the way ? Overdose of scrumpy ?

                  In answer to your last question. Yes, I think they are that stupid.

                     11 likes

                  • Oaknash says:

                    Grant I liked using big words – it makes me feel clever!

                    Could be right regarding the scrumpy – Sometimes its like the holy spirit and works in mysterious ways.

                    By the way – I was looking at some of the Christmas Posts and we seem to have a new troll who sounded to me very much like Jerrod! I hope so I sort of miss him and his effete, faux outrage.

                       9 likes

                • ToobiWan says:

                  We make the mistake of thinking they are stupid or mentally deranged, Oak; they are far from it. They are evil bastards!
                  http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/21730-insider-eu-u-s-must-take-more-refugees-get-rid-of-sovereignty

                  ;

                     11 likes

                  • Grant says:

                    Toobi,

                    But their “one world ” will be a muslim world and morons like Sutherland will have no say in it. They are stupid because, ultimately, they will suffer just as much as the rest of us.

                       12 likes

                    • Oaknash says:

                      Grant/Toobi is it stupidity or just sheer breathtaking arrogance or is their another agenda at work which they are in a hurry to push through.

                      At the end of the day even with the likes of people like Junker you cannot reach his level without possessing some natural machievellian (do you like that word Grant!) cunning which obviously needs a reasonable level of intelligence.

                      This is why people like Junker are so despicable and dangerous because they know the effects of what they are doing.

                      Most of the media is pretty shallow and is more concerned about having the right fashionable opinion. But People like Merkel, Junker and Guy “dodgy teeth” Verhofstad may well be arrogant and lazy as well but the bottom line is you cannot reach their levels without being fairly bright.

                      Evil can be defined as immoral, black hearted and wicked so (if there is another agenda at work) and they are obviously aware of the repercussions of their policies then evil is quite accurate.

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                    • ToobiWan says:

                      Muslim world or not, Grant, it most certainly will not in any shape or form be any sort of democracy. If people like Sutherland think that they will be able to control the coming chaos that that their policies have caused, they will be in for a shock as you say. What we have, in the UN, is an organisation, created ostensibly, to bring nations together formulating policies to bring about the destruction of those same nations. It’s to be hoped that this organisation will be looked upon a little differently after January 2017.

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                  • Oaknash says:

                    Toobi – My personal view is that there is a degree of manipulation going on that we can only wonder at.
                    However I think these people (who have very effectively manipulated EU states for years) have been caught slightly off guard by the brexit vote which made many people start to realise the enormity of what we are facing.
                    Further the inability of our own Government to deliver any meaningful brexit (despite a strong mandate) and the fact that in effect all European borders (including our own) remain open, and the sheer weight in opposition to brexit demonstrated by the ruling elite and their media whores, only reinforces my belief that there are some very nasty things going on behind the scenes.

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                    • Up2snuff says:

                      Good post, Oaknash. That is what is behind one of my attempts at Understanding Merkel. She has seen the EU and the manipulation from the inside now and knows she cannot do anything about it on her own and also that she can never get all of the other twenty-seven ‘here today, gone tomorrow’ leaders to do anything together about it.

                      Could it be, therefore, that a destructive piece of subversion at the right time was the only way to save Europe?

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                    • Grant says:

                      Toobi/Oak,

                      I still do not understand the objective of people like Sutherland , Juncker and the others. The hope is that these evil people are all ageing now and a new generation may have a different view, if it is not too late.

                      Oak, it is ” Machiavellian ” . Take it easy on the long words . I do !

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                    • ToobiWan says:

                      Junker, et al are only the public face of those who supposedly “run” the EU, it’s the string pullers behind the scenes that are the ones to worry about. Banking dynasties? Multinational globalists? Whoever they are, I don’t think that they have the best interests of Europeans at heart.
                      As to Brexit, I wonder what excuse they will come up with when the end of March deadline passes, having not triggered Article 50 and what the people will do about it.
                      After that date we will will have to get a majority decision to leave the kleptocracy from the other 27 members. This is as likely as the Lab Dims becoming electable again.

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                • Up2snuff says:

                  Oak & Grant, I think the penny may be dropping just a little at the BBC, if what Mark Mardell is/has been refering to in WatO in the last couple of days is anything to go by. Whether the penny will be merely kicked under a desk or whether the BBC will wake up to the possible emergence of a surprising re-ordering of the existing hegemony* and try to get on board, remains to be seen. I think they (BBC) would probably really like ‘it’, this possible revival of working class & middle class conservatism and Ballot Box activism, taken away and for their cosy privileged lives to settle back to a norm.

                  * Am not refering here to the ‘New World Order’, that is something rather different, I think.

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                  • Oaknash says:

                    UP2 – little Too Late – I suspect whilst there may well be a little tinkering around the edges – In their current form the BBC would be totally unable to produce any form of unbiased broadcasting – as you now have a couple of generations of journalists/producers/management that have been recruited partly for their “right on” progressive credentials. These have become lazy and complacent knowing that the everlasting chequebook never shuts no matter how poor a quality journalism you churn out.

                    Its not really a case of draining the swamp more a case of draining it, drying it out and setting whats left on fire – I suspect the only way you would now ever achieve anything approaching impartial/unbiased reporting is to set up an entirely new organisation.

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                  • Oaknash says:

                    Grant/Toobi/Snuff – Reply to 7 – 8pm posts . I maE Knot beE ayble tWO spel makyovelli / machiiocelliannnn / BurT I canN spell BASTARDS! COS vey arrrrr!e

                    But seriously – Maybe we are in a stronger position than we realise.

                    When I was twelve and losing at a game of Monopoly I sometimes used to synthesize an argument with my opponent (normally my brother and he was also cheating) so I could walk away. This involved throwing the board in the air and losing the pieces – game over!

                    Maybe the caring Mutti Merkels open door immigration invitation is possibly a desperate “all or nothing” last throw of the dice to win the game or nothing.

                    She must know the game is up in the long term because she is now coming out with all this shit about banning the burqua and slowing immigration.

                    It will be interesting whether the German people possess the imagination to realise that she is betting that their feelings of guilt over WW2 will trump their sense of self preservation as she fuses, arms and drops the demographic time bomb that will ensure the destruction of their (and possibly our) culture.

                    Interesting times!

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                    • ToobiWan says:

                      Interesting times indeed, Oak.
                      I’ve had my son home for Christmas, he lives in Munich and I picked him up from Manchester aitrport last week, along with another Brit he met on the plane, to whom I gave a lift. I asked them if the Christmas market killings would finally spell the end of Mutti and he and the other lad were genuinely surprised at the question. They were both of the impression that the refugee problem is not of Merkel’s making, she is merely bound by and responding to international law to lay down the welcome mat for these primatives, in effect, her hands are tied, the choice was not hers to make. They also said it was international law that is preventing her sending the criminal and failed packing. They didn’t believe me when I said that they were only there at her personal invite, impossible they said. Now, where do they get that impression from?
                      As to post WWII guilt, did you know that the herren in der strasse is still paying reperations for the holocaust; still paying for the reunification of Germany; paying for the Greek bailout and now they are meeting the cost of the third world invasion. They are not Glückliche Häschen but large numbers of them will still vote for her!

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                • StewGreen says:

                  It’s the Hippy Fallacy
                  .. Whatever gimmick you try say Raw Food diet, herbal toxin cleansing ; when it doesn’t work .. It’s not cos it’s Hippy crap .. It’s cos you didn’t do it pure enough and they become very guilty about it.

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                  • Oaknash says:

                    Toobi either someone is telling porkies! Mutti or the media.

                    It is interesting what you said. Before Christmas I heard pretty much the same thing on R4, ie the Germans were very unlikely to unseat Merkel. Despite what is happening in their own country.

                    Somehow, somewhere down the line the truth is not getting through. Or is it because like us, the Germans like to play a very straight bat. That would be truly ironic and poetic.

                    Civilisation Defeated by our own manners and civility!!!!!!!

                    Maybe frightening more than interesting!

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  41. EnglandExpects says:

    Longworth’s comments about the abusive texts he received from Downing Street spads was revealing and disarmed the interviewer, who had hitherto concentrated on rubbishing Brexit . The texts revelation shows what an arrogant bunch Cameron surrounded himself with. We are well rid of them – and him.

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  42. StewGreen says:

    Holidays are over and we are back to news FED in by PR agencies

    eg The Times double bluff headline
    Crackdown on rip-off charges for electric cars
    “Ministers are preparing to tackle overpriced electric car charging amid fears that it can cost as much to run a green vehicle as a conventional diesel.”

    Context #0 EVs are like organic food, a niche product for a rich minority and not actually any more healthy.
    Context #1 EVs main problem is that they have NO second hand value
    Context #2 The Times is always trying to help EV subsidy mafia
    Context #3 EVs are not Green – the environment and energy are used in their manufacture.. they rely on fossil fuels for electricity.
    Context #4 It’s no secret that people forgot to think that petrol/diesel tech would continue to get more efficient.
    Context #5 Dale.Vince’s Ecotricity enticed gullibles by having free motorway charging stations. Then after a while they put big prices on them.
    So yes the cost per mile of EVs is not comparatively cheap.

    So yes Electric cars are more expensive to run and only gimmicks bought by rich people whilst it’s the poor taxpayer who pays for the huge subsidies on them.

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    • StewGreen says:

      pg36 has a half page newsvert “Electric cars spike mining boom

      Tesla, the electric vehicle manufacturer controlled by Elon Musk, has said that it would require today’s entire worldwide production of lithium ion batteries to meet demand for its target of half a million cars in the second half of the decade.”
      The entire article is cutnpaste from a Wood Mackenzie report
      Wanna bet they are not connected to Lithium hedgefunds ?

      Guys is lithium one of those elements that people think is rare but isn’t ?
      Google search on “plenty of lithium” seems to confirm that.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        He doesn’t say Lithium is rare, he says that the production of Lion batteries is limited.

        To put that into context imagine how many Lion batteries are actually produced for laptops, smart phones, cordless tools, torches, etc etc and that still isn’t enough for just 500 000 cars pa.

        On top of that Lion technology loses capacity at a rate of 10% each year, so 90% year 2, 81% year 3 73″ year 4, 66% year 5

        So if the car starts with a range of 100 miles on a full charge, by its 5th year it will be only 66 miles. The batteries cost roughly 50% of the true (unsubsidised) value of the car and replacing them does not attract any kind of subsidy it really is a reverse Robin Hood scheme.

        And that is why second hand electric vehicles do not hold their value.

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  43. StewGreen says:

    BBC WS radio prog Crowd Science which is obviously just an advertising vehicle for pushing Green Dream Magical thinking
    Last edition they coo-ed about Wave Power.
    Towards the end :

    “So when will our homes be powered by electricity from wavepower ?”
    Prof Expert “Well wave power is always about 10 yars behind windpower
    .. And we’ve already had windpower for 20 years”
    They just moved on without a thought.

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    • Grant says:

      Stew,

      The BBC don’t do maths and science !

         17 likes

      • ToobiWan says:

        They’re not too good on truth and news reporting either, Grant.

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        • Grant says:

          Toobi,

          LOL ! Pretty much my only connection with the BBC now is Radio 3 and TMS, and I bet they would love to get rid of both of them. All the rest now seems to be dumbed down crap.

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          • G says:

            Grant, I cannot yet fathom whether I need a separate licence for radio only. The only reply so far from the BBC is, ‘No, you don’t need a tv licence to listen to the radio’, which is not a clear answer to the question. I await a reply on which basis, I may ditch my tv licence.

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            • Grant says:

              G,

              I do not think you need a licence for a radio but others here will know more than me.

              I scrapped my TV a few months ago and cancelled the direct debit for the TV tax. The inevitable aggressive letter arrived accusing me of eating babies. I replied that I no longer had a TV. They said they wanted evidence and I politely told them to piss off.

              Next , they said they would come to my house. I said they are welcome , but I sold my house in UK and live in Gambia. And they are not welcome there .

              Then , they asked me where I live when I am in UK and I replied that is none of their business. I am a British Subject and free to visit any time I want.

              That is the current state of play. But, the whole tone of these wretched people is more akin to the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany than a so-called “free democracy “.

              Would love to see them turn up in Gambia. I have three high quality machetes in my house and some big black boys as security. Mind you, Beeboids would probably enjoy that !

                 21 likes

              • Cranmer says:

                A licence is not required to listen to BBC radio on a wireless set or computer, live or on catch-up services.

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              • Andrew Caplan says:

                “Then , they asked me where I live when I am in UK and I replied that is none of their business.”

                I think you missed a trick there. Couldn’t you have sent their enforcers to a non-existent cottage in the remotest part of Scotland you can think of?

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      • taffman says:

        Grant
        They don’t do Comedy either.
        They have not done since Pontias was a ‘pilot’.

           8 likes

        • Disgusted of Essex says:

          Can I suggest a comedy..

          Desolation Jests – a p*ss take of Desert Island Discs. Tuesday nights, 11pm radio 4.

          Written by David Renwick, with Rory Bremner, David Jason, John Bird and Jan Ravens. Not political (not yet, anyway – 3 episodes in..)

             5 likes

        • ToobiWan says:

          Are you discounting the side splitting, achingly funny and multi commissioned, Citizen Kahn /sarc>, tm?

             6 likes

  44. G says:

    It would seem reasonable to take the rapid Islamisation of Sweden as a paradigm for all other EU States including the UK but excluding the more sensible old, Former Soviet Union countries –
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9603/sweden-islamists

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  45. Umbongo says:

    I caught Holby last night (don’t ask!)

    We were treated to a propaganda show on behalf of the NHS (short of resources, suffering from Tory cuts yadda yadda yadda but we brave workers “just get on with it”). The highpoint of the show was the staged rant by the feisty female doctor against a whining white, blonde female patient who had the temerity to voice an opinion that the guy in the next casualty bed was a free-rider and a foreigner. Apparently, according to the script, he’d “been here for 10 years” and – contrary to my limited personal experience of these matters – paid his taxes in full. In her rant Dr Feisty listed the non-Brits who were employed to help Ms Whitey (Nigerian porters, French radiologists, Italian registrars etc etc) and added that, despite Ms Whitey’s being a “racist” she was still being treated “free”. Then cut to the (lesbian) consultant in charge of the department telling Dr Feisty (in private) that she agreed with every word of her rant but advised her to cool it in future. Later, a lonely Ms Whitey was shown looking on in envy as our Romanian hero was surrounded by his loving family showering him with Christmas gifts.

    I don’t know where the BBC production teams learn how to structure their propaganda but, really, as an exercise in how to convert their viewers away from all that Brexit-inspired racism and to whip them into even more frantic worship at the shrine of the NHS, this was so transparent and blatant as to be (literally) laughable (although I reckon it played well in Islington). The only explanation as to how this travesty of drama hit the screens is that a senior anti-Narrative mole is active in Propaganda Central at W1A.

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    • Andrew Caplan says:

      I’m surprised how few comments Holby City gets around here.

      I’ve seen it a few times (not my choice) and find it nauseating.

         18 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        AC, there are rumours – only rumours – that the only reason Holby City exists in world television circles is to enhance the reputation of ER, and that programme’s medical accuracy, its true to life portrayal of real people and events, together with Michael Crichton’s dedication and research and really good writing.

        At the BBC the docs were about to ‘pronounce’ on Casualty and get the nurses to prep the body for clearance to the morgue when someone high at the BBC said “No. Get out the paddles one more time. We have got millions to waste on programmes and no risk of the Licence Fee being taken away for producing poor work. Everybody loves somebody when they are in scrubs. Let’s keep the corpse on life support and work around it. No-one will notice.”

        It fills a hole in the schedules.

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    • GCooper says:

      Is there any BBC drama programme that hasn’t been been turned into a morality play for the Left?

      It seems as if the Corporation is now incapable of making any programme which doesn’t contain a ‘message’ designed to teach the audience what to think.

      Must be why I have managed to get through the festive season thus far with almost no help from the BBC.

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      • Oaknash says:

        I am afraid the main joy of no longer having a telly is that I no longer have to suffer the extreme lefty propaganda of programmes such as Holby City and Casualty. It was high order shite such as this and Doctor Who. (which I used to watch with my daughter) With their pathetically transparent social/race agendas that finally made the decision to dispense with the telly much easier than I thought.
        I always thought the unspoken agenda of such crap such as this was constantly trying to make anyone who had any hint of traditional viewpoint feel as if they are uncaring, waycist, selfish and generally not with it.

        My mother when she was alive was always racked with guilt over these “refugees” yet she also had a sense that she was only being told the part of the truth.

        In BBC land the future lies with the snowflakes with their beards, skinny jeans and Iphone 7s , What the BBC and the left forget that there are still quite a lot of us waycist, selfish coffin dodgers still around and frustratingly for Aunty lots more of us are catching on to what is happening.

        Its frustrating sometimes when posters on this site are discussing a particular programme and I havn`t seen it – but on the whole it is a lot better for my blood pressure!

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        • Cranmer says:

          Oaknash, I remember as a child watching the early episodes of Casualty (yes, it’s been going that long) and being struck by how depressing it was, constantly showing the NHS ‘in crisis’ with everybody stressed and short-handed. I am pretty sure this is/was deliberate and successful propaganda by the BBC to ‘canonise’ the NHS and ensure that money is always pumped into it.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        GC, thinking back to the early Doctor Who, I think that was true of the BBC long ago and it was even noticed then by small children, of which I was one. It could be a hangover from the BBC’s dominance (exclusivity of voice?) of broadcasting, especially during WW2 when the BBC played a key part in ‘keeping up morale’ as well as disseminating information that the Government of the day wished people to hear.

        Print media did that, too, of course and in a way they do so today but with obvious and accepted hypocrisy. I remember the Independent being taken to task about ten years ago by its readers for joining in the trendy ‘green’ hysteria over the then not very popular (less than 2000 units annual sales) 4×4 vehicles while happily taking money from a manufacturer, Land Rover, to advertise its products, especially the Range Rover, to readers.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Would it be racist to wonder from where or whom the Romanian family nicked their presents? Probably.

         15 likes

      • Oaknash says:

        Come on Roland get with the programme! They didnt need to nick their presents ! They all sold the big issue down Holby High street which entitled them to housing benefit and family credit!

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        • BRISSLES says:

          The scriptwriters of these programmes clearly don’t realise that by shoving their ‘agenda’ down our throats, it has the opposite effect to the brainwashing they hope it will have.. Watching scenarios like the one mentioned on Holby only serves to get the backs up of the majority, so it will shoot them up the a….se in the end.

          Living in the country, walking the dog, you tend to stand and chat for ages to complete strangers – I did yesterday to a retired farmer. After half an hour of putting the world to rights, I discovered that here was yet another ‘like minded’ fellow who holds the views of everyone on here. So where do all those who voted Remain live ? cos I sure as hell haven’t met a single one yet !

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          • G.W.F. says:

            Brissles
            So where do all those who voted Remain live ?

            Like you I talk to people, to strangers and neighbours and have the same response.
            But in the Christmas cards I received from friends who have got on and live in London I read of their personal achievement and the successes of their children, along with those snippets about what a terrible year it has been politically. No space for argument, just those assumptions we are all supposed to share.

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            • BRISSLES says:

              I agree GWF, and couldn’t you just want to slap ’em !

              I was invited to a xmas lunch where there was a family of 50 something parents (he had sold the business and is having a property built in Florida), 3 gormless looking kids – you know the type, and the wife came out with “Nigel Farage should be put down”. My family were amongst the guests so bit my tongue, but the family were so money orientated, and clearly didn’t remember the UK before 1974, so I made an early escape, deciding my dog was much better company !

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              • Grant says:

                London is a cesspit.

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                • Andrew Caplan says:

                  Bit of a silly generalisation about 8m people. I have family there, relatively well established, and I don’t recognise some of the sweeping generalisations around here. But then I grew up with this “not London” crap – a little hypocritical in the county which includes places like Bradford, Rotherham, and my terrorist-breeding home city of Leeds, whose problems cannot be laid entirely at the door of people S of Watford, no matter how hard they try. And don’t get me started on the attitude to education amongst some people up here, and I’m not referring to immigrants. Most of the good grammars, which served the region well in the past, have gone private but it’s disturbing how few people seem to care.

                  Lefty places outside London, including Scotland and whiny victimhood addicted idiots in places like Liverpool, have been sending the wrong people to Westminster for decades. There are signs that some of them are waking up – about time. Sadly, this seems to have more to do with the dire state of the Labour party than any significant awakening on their part. If Labour came to its senses and found even a half-decent leader (unlikley, I know), I doubt if UKIP would make any real headway.

                  Unfortunately, the UK is not short of cesspits, if we have to view it that way.

                     10 likes

                  • taffman says:

                    Last time I visited London I thought I was in Beirut.

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                    • Andrew Caplan says:

                      Well you should have got around more – perhaps visited a few cultural attractions which, believe me, will never look like Beirut.

                      Not so sure everything is hunky dory in S Wales on the racial front, taffman.

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                  • Grant says:

                    Andrew,

                    I agree with you about all the cities you mention. I just singled out London because many people who live there seem to think it is the centre of the Universe. Well, if they want to live there, I have no objection !

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                • Up2snuff says:

                  Grant, having a bit too much of a good Christmas, eh? 😉 😉

                  I object to that, Grant, on the basis that it could be said of any major city and some medium size cities at any given time. How about Glasgow? Edinburgh? Manchester? Birmingham? Bristol? York, even?

                  In terms of multi-culti, London has been such for centuries. So have other major cities including ones that today were once major and are no longer. It cannot be gainsayed that London has recently been, and is currently, the world’s premier capital for so much that might be labelled good as well as all that labelled bad that it does contain. It may not stay at the top of the heap for long but it is there at present, which is why it is such a magnet to the population of the world.

                     3 likes

                  • Grant says:

                    Up2,

                    I would say the same about the other cities that you mention. I guess I just hate cities.

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              • G.W.F. says:

                Brissels

                Yes, I find my dogs more interesting, but I cannot confess to these ‘friends’ that my dogs – which are internationally recognised dancers – have performed to music supplied to my by the evil far right Sarah Palin whose cousin runs a band for US veterans (Missing Stateside). That would blow their minds.

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                • taffman says:

                  Wales is pretty good so far Andrew , we would like to keep it that way. That’s why we voted unanimously for Brexit .

                     6 likes

                  • Andrew Caplan says:

                    “That’s why we voted unanimously for Brexit .”

                    Well that’s certainly an improvement on the years spent voting for socialism.

                    But it wasn’t exactly unanimous, was it?

                       1 likes

                    • taffman says:

                      Andrew
                      Irrelevant & off target.
                      Many Socialists voted Brexit.
                      Unanimous or not, Brexit won, thank God !
                      Live with it.

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              • Wild Bill says:

                Same here Brissles,I was under instructions not to talk politics at xmas family gatherings,yet when people come out with comments like that, why should we have to keep our opinions quiet?

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    • Deborahanother says:

      Yeah I just caught up with it and it is in full on racist Brexteer who is racist against the Romainian in the next bed who has HIV. Cue medic to rant about how the Polish are running our ambulance services etc.

      I stopped watching it around 18months ago for a similar storyline but started dipping in again recently.Wish I hadn’t bothered ,its so blatant.

      The irony is they started the episode with saying how overworked they were and how too many people are attending .Did they equate that with mass immigration.Of course not.Its only racists and the elderly who are flooding A&E and blocking beds.

      Well I worked in A&E and our most difficult regular attenders were Eastern European homeless with chronic illnesses and alcoholism.

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  46. nogginator says:

    BBC News – An Israeli committee has postponed a vote to authorise construction of almost 500 new homes in Jewish settlements in … “occupied” East Jerusalem.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38450424
    Al BBC there you go again, and still you push this “why the UN vote matters” garbage
    as the main header.
    In 1980, the Knesset passed the Jerusalem Law, which was declared a Basic Law, which declared Jerusalem to be the “complete and united” capital of Israel. Now considering
    Jerusalem IS the ancient capital of Israel, and after an Islamic aggression war by Jordan was re-instated in 1967. It is Israel who decides to or not to build there NOT THE compromised hijacked UN, not the US, it is Israel who decides laws on its own capital… not the UN. I could say I void any law in the states, I could say it loudly it means nothing, anyway …
    This has more to do with more US hater J “Lurch” Kerry and Buraq Hussein s meddling, you know I can hardly bring myself to type those names, I hold them in such disgust.
    The Al BBC, CNN, Ch4 the sh-tbags on LBC the lot of them Grrr … oh my blood pressure.
    You know I called in to LBC to their own Pallywood producer O Brien, he had spoken to a Jewish lady, so out of turn so rudely … and what she had said was essentially correct. Upshot they are worse than the Al BBC, I was promised to get on with him
    … la di da oops “time issues” etc.

    Bibi slate him, slate them both for crying out loud ignore these perfidious snakes … “ironclad information” from Arab sources that the White House had helped draft the language of the resolution and “pushed hard” for its passage.
    Play the long game, wait til after Lurch s speech .. . have faith and build.

       16 likes

    • Grant says:

      Noggie,

      The BBC and all anti-semites, including vermin like Obama, will never be happy until they see the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of all Jews. They are Nazis.

         16 likes

  47. nogginator says:

    More BBC Fembot Twitterfarty crap
    “2016’s female fightback … in hashtags”
    Social Media
    “a roundup of the most influential hashtags for women in 2016”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/38445648

       7 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Got as far as the hold frame of the scotsman silhouette in a man bun and was triggered. End of.

         4 likes

  48. joeadamsmith says:

    OK. Quick one. Was Tony Blair charged in LEWES Crown Court in 1983? The following article alleges this:
    http://gmmuk.com/george-michael-rip-now-you-know-why-the-media-told-you-what-they-did/

    Here is a google search:

    http://ukchildabuseinquiry.blogspot.gr/2015/06/the-alleged-cottaging-conviction-of.html

    And this:

    http://thetruthnews.info/Tony_Blair_Scandal.html

    But, is there anything definite?

       5 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      The web site you search appears run by some Fascist whack job fully convinced of a Jewish conspiracy which controls the world and failing to see that it is in reality the Saudis & their allies.

      Charles Lynton was NOT charged at Lewes crown court – and think about this – why would anyone be tried in a crown court for a minor first offence? That should have set the alarm bells ringing.
      The truth is that he pleaded guilty at Bow Street Magistrates court, not appearing in person but by post. He was very junior at the time and did not receive any special treatment.

      http://ukchildabuseinquiry.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-alleged-cottaging-conviction-of.html

      Here is the proof of all this.

         5 likes

    • Deborah says:

      Joeadamsmith, I have heard these rumours about Tony B for years. Clarissa Dickson Smith (one fat lady) was for a while in the same chambers as Tony) and she said he was nicknamed Miranda as a hint at who he preferred. BUT those links you provided are definitely at the far end of ‘iffy’.

         9 likes

      • Grant says:

        Deborah,

        Well it is either in Court records or it isn’t. But I would not put much reliance on them any more than I would on Blair.

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  49. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/747706/calais-jungle-refugee-migrant-camps-channel-britain

    Looks like the Calais migrant camp is becoming repopulated despite the Left wing mayor of Calais Natacha Bouchart claiming they would not allow them to, and her calling for the protective wall paid for by UK tax payers to be torn down.

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  50. Grant says:

    I have some business dealings with Hargreaves Lansdown and am delighted that Peter Hargreaves is a Brexiteer. Just had an email from them informing me that , according to Ladbrokes, if you had put £1 on Leicester City winning the Premier League, UK voting Brexit and Trump winning, you would have made £4.5 million. Damn, I missed out totally.

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