Boxing Day Open Thread

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Hope you all got the socks you wanted from Santa and may the baby Jesus guide you  to the best bargains in the sales.  However back to business here and a new year is fast approaching…a new year but same old bias…..The BBC’s new year revolution?  No more bias?  Guess that’ll be broken day one.  If so you know the drill…..

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  1. Cassandra says:

    BBC focusing in on Boxing Day sales, now what am I missing here…

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      What we don’t have is sinophobia – fear of everything Chinese. But then the Chinese are not planning to take over Britain, unlike the Islamists.

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      • Techno says:

        I’m not so sure about the Chinese takeover, they seem pretty intent on buying up the whole of the Western world to me…

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    • Sluff says:

      I didn’t realise that anglo saxon white males do not go to the Boxing Day sales.
      But I do now.
      So I am grateful to our wonderful BBC for raising my own knowledge levels and cultural understanding.

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    • maxincony says:

      You appear to be missing a point Cassandra. Oxford Street attracts millions of overseas visitors every year. It benefits Selfridges & the UK economy very nicely thank you. So your problem is what exactly?

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      • BRISSLES says:

        During the days of the black and white TV’s, we saw that the first days of the Sales were shown with orderly queues waiting for the doors to open, – now we have images of every race under the sun shoving and pushing like a herd of uncouths and ignoramouses simply because there is a 50 quid mark down on a tele, or a designer bag; AND its not just confined to Oxford Street either ! any Sale going and you have to have the stamina of an Olympian to beat the purses of those not necessarily born here.

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        • maxincony says:

          That’s strange, I seem to remember lots of “amusing” black and white film clips of people scrambling for bargain nylons and cut price dinner plates.

          Makes me wonder, have you always spent your free time counting up the number of non-Aryans on TV or is this a more recent obsession of yours?

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          • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

            Hello little troll. Why don’t you cast your mind back to last year when the Telegraph’s chief political reporter spent his time counting the photos on pages of the Ukip manifesto to work out the ratio of non-Aryans on the pages in order to score a political point. In fact the diversity obsessives in the BBC are constantly referring to the racial make of of organisations, crowds, political parties, oscar ceremonies etc etc etc. Haven’t you noticed?
            It’s been going on for years. So don’t be surprised when other people do it too. And stop complaining about it.

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            • taffman says:

              A totally unrepresentative proportion compared to the majority of the population of Great Britain.

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            • ToobiWan says:

              There was another “organisation”, Yasser, in 1930’s Germany who were also obsessed with racial makeup, etc. It didn’t end well ISTR.
              How many are aware, I wonder, how this obsession was facilitated and even made possible by the involvement of a “well respected” multinational.
              http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ibm-and-nazi-germany/

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          • Deborahanother says:

            You cannot deny that things have changed for the worse as Blair flung the doors open to all and sundry.
            i am from the same generation as Brissles I think.I don’t want to spend my older years being accused of racism and Islamaphobia and having to fit in with what other cultures want.
            I avoid the BBC with their diversity quotas and token actors /presenters.
            I had no problem with immigration when it was under control.

            On the other hand I have always hated and avoided sales .

            A happy and peaceful New Year to you.Am I allowed to say that ?

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          • BRISSLES says:

            How much ‘free time’ ??? I don’t need to exert any time at all actually, when faced with it on a daily basis, – the ratio in Britain as a whole is barely 20% but diversity on the box is far far greater than that. Clearly watching ‘amusing’ film CLIPS indicates you are not of an age where most of us remember a different Britain.

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          • Al Shubtill says:

            I think you’ll find it’s now a simpler exercise only to count the “Aryans”.

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      • Cassandra says:

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        Here is a photograph from the sales in Birmingham, the city where I live. There are tourists who come to Birmingham but not on the scale of London. Have a careful look at it Maxiconey. It mostly consists of BME shoppers. Here is my problem: the BBC saturates the viewer with programmes that suggest that this is the norm. In truth in cities like Birmingham, it is the norm where white people are now in the minority. But it goes further; specific themes are forced upon the viewer/listener; there is an over representation of BME people in television and radio programmes; television and radio drama and light entertainment and news is presented and manipulated in such a way that people from a BME background are presented always in a favourable light and never in a poor one. The latest news story that I’m waiting for the BBC to report is the knife attack on Christians in Switzerland over Christmas, it’s been reported by other news organisations but not yet by the BBC, the usual censorship by omission. The BBC has a political and racial bias which it broadcasts by the hour, it is non-stop. I could add more but I know that I will still be labelled as right wing and racist but the truth is, I don’t really care anymore. Have I clarified my problem enough for you, Maxiconey?

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Excellent post Cassandra. Dig deep under the skin of people in this country, and they will agree with you. What’s to argue ?

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        • Disgruntled of Enfield says:

          There is one exception to this pattern Eastenders actually has some white people in it, if it was accurate 90% of the population would be asian and the cast would spend most of their time engaging in postal fraud and working out ways to fiddle the benefit system.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Oxford Street attracts millions of overseas visitors every year. It benefits Selfridges & the UK economy very nicely thank you.

        Indeed. Just as those millions of immigrants over the last 20 years are a net benefit to the economy. Just look at the dozens of shiny new hospitals, the hundreds of gleaming new schools, the endless miles of new roads, the rapid expansion of our rail network….

        Oh, hang on….

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    • Denton says:

      I don’t get it – Chinese travel all the way to London to buy stuff that is most likely made in China ?

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  2. joeadamsmith says:

    I’m sure that the MSM, our very own Ministry of Truth especially, will be reporting on this extensively: https://www.rt.com/news/371824-aleppo-mass-graves-civilians/

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    • ToobiWan says:

      Obviously victims of Putin’s and Assad’s indiscriminate bombing campaign, Joe. Can’t be anything to do with the brave defenders of this part of Aleppo and their distinctively coloured helmets, could it?

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  3. joeadamsmith says:

    Not a bBBC, as such, but, it’s in relation to the new liberal expression: “fake news.” I have had this passed on of CNN using the same girl being rescued in three different pictures….. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211803401145546&set=gm.462126757482779&type=3&theater

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    • Up2snuff says:

      JA, Not all B-BBC contributors and readers use Facebook. Think you may have to find a way of displaying the content: the link will not be enough.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Jaed

        Here is the photo. Another White Helmets photo op.

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        • Lobster says:

          Passing young girls around amongst different men does seem to be part of the “culture” I suppose.

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          • maxincony says:

            “Passing young girls around amongst different men does seem to be part of the “culture” I suppose.”

            Do you think she might be good at football Lobster? It would be a shame if she wasn’t introduced to the benefits of our “culture” I suppose.

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            • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

              Oh god, troll! We have heard that argument so many times.
              There is a simple answer to that. One word. Rotherham.

              In other words, in case you haven’t twigged. Get a sense of perspective!!

              A bunch of perverted soccer players is shocking but nothing compared to what has been going on in Britain and deliberately ignored by leftist authorities.

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              • ID says:

                The “it’s only a few bad apples” argument is really becoming very tedious after Rotherham, Cologne etc. It would make more sense to ask what’s wrong with the orchard.

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                • Al Shubtill says:

                  “What’s wrong with the orchard?”

                  Nothing that felling all the trees within it wouldn’t solve.

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            • Deborahanother says:

              Its called satire.

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            • johnnythefish says:

              So how many under age Muslim girls have been plied with drugs and alcohol, gang-raped, had their parents threatened, been shipped for endless rapings from city to city by a network of hundreds of footballers who have then had their crimes covered up by the authorities for more than a decade to protect their ‘culture’ from a public backlash?

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          • NCBBC says:

            That a very sharp post.

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        • maxincony says:

          So these are three photos from the same incident, heavily cropped and then used in order to mislead. Here’s another (un-cropped) photo:

          https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aleppo-white-helmets-rescue.jpg?quality=85&w=1680

          I just ask what point is this graphic trying to make exactly? There haven’t been any bombs falling on Aleppo? No one has been killed or injured? There aren’t any children there?

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          • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

            Thank maxincony. If one uses simple “found” bits of stuff on the internet to “prove” an argument, and then later it is found to have been invented / made up – credibility plummets. So it is always important to check sources or offer it up for careful scrutiny as has been done here before taking it mainstream.

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          • Grant says:

            maxi,

            Welcome here. I think you are new here. I am a bit dim. Can you please put in simple language the point you are trying to make ?

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  4. Up2snuff says:

    This made me chuckle:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38432018

    The way the opening paragraphs have been written, almost certainly unintentionally, by the unknown BBC journalist does the Labour Party no favours whatsoever!

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    • Number 88 says:

      I don’t think that it’s been written by a BBC journalist. It seems to be, word for word, a Labour Party press release.

      That said, you might be right…it could well be drivel from one and the same person.

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    • Number 88 says:

      I don’t think that it’s been written by a BBC journalist. It seems to be, word for word, a Labour Party press release.

      That said, you might be right…it could well be drivel from one and the same person.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        No.88, you could be right. A foot shooting exercise by Labour then!

        The British Labour Party: as amnesiac as the BBC!

        (I originally thought that, in the way of these things, that the original Press Release had been worked over slightly but had unfortunately overlooked ‘thirteen years of Labour misrule’ while inadvertently drawing attention to it.)

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    • Sluff says:

      Readers should know that only 7% of UK journeys are by rail.
      Around 85% are by car.

      Yet from the bBBC ( and to be fair many other statist, collectivist organisations) you’d think from their coverage it was, what? 50/50?

      And as for the relative levels of public subsidy/ investment, goodness knows how little pro rata is spent on the road network.

      One to dwell on the next time The bBBC facilitates another rail user or green eco-loon whingeing session.

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      • RJ says:

        There are only two groups of people who can pay for the railways. Those who travel by train and those who don’t. The BBC want those who don’t use the railways to pay as much as can be squeezed out of them. It will help to keep their fares down while they virtue signal by attacking car users.

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        • JosF says:

          RJ…..I am in an an even worse position than normal car owners I own more than one Land-Rover a 1952 Series One SWB Ragtop and a 2003 Defender SWB Hardtop and am looking for a lightweight/Air portable and a 101 Forward Control to add to the collection

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  5. Cassandra says:

    Just before I was forced to watch the rubbish GBBO programme on Christmas Day a short trailer ran before it featuring Mary Berry visiting a group of black and Asian women (some wearing the obligatory headbags). Can’t find the video on the internet. Can anyone tell me where I can find it (or even what it’s in aid of)?

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  6. Grant says:

    Seems like the BBC’s main story is the death of some third rate pop singer. FFS !!!!

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    • Deborah says:

      George Michael seems to have been on a self destruct path for many years.

      I switched on the Today programme about 8.40 and all Justin Webb and Nick Robinson could produce were not very illuminating tweets by others who have filled their hedonistic lives with drugs and sex (Elton John for example). Yes, I am sorry that anyone dies at a relatively young age but reading out the same messages, probably put out by their publicists is neither news nor interesting. Is it really all £4billion a year can provide me with? If I was interested I could find these things out for free for myself.

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    • maxincony says:

      I’ve never been much of a fan of George Michael’s music but I can still appreciate his talent. Calling him a “third rate pop singer” is just ignorance dressed up as stupidity.

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      • taffman says:

        Grant
        I think you touched a nerve then ?

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      • Owen Morgan says:

        If you don’t like his music, which talent of his do you so admire?

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        • maxincony says:

          George Michael’s music is not to my particular taste, but I can still appreciate that what he did he did very well.

          Grant appears to be someone who is almost permanently drunk; you should possibly hitch your wagon elsewhere.

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          • johnnythefish says:

            ‘Third rate talent’ is his opinion. Though personally I disagree, he’s entitled to it.

            Obviously not in your ideal world, though.

            Why can’t you make your argument in a civilised manner rather than resorting to insult? (That’s a rhetorical question, by the way.)

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            • G.W.F. says:

              maxincony

              I thought you were on the verge of raising an interesting argument concerning perceived disparities between talent and the value attributed to an artist.
              Sadly, you killed off any interest in your argument with an insult.

              For what it is worth, Michael does rank as third rate when compared with first raters like Hendrix, Dylan, Jagger etc.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        max, I’ve not been a fan of George Michael, either, whether in Wham or afterward. Nor David Bowie.

        However, if you assess their work, their output, their chart & sales success, their longevity and their influence, you might have been wiser – especially as a new poster here – to just disagree and explain why, rather than calling Grant ‘ignorant and stupid’.

        Bowie achieved very little chart success as measured by No.1s, but on all the other measures listed he appears at a quick glance to have outdone George Michael considerably. So perhaps we could split the difference with Grant and agree to call George Michael a ‘second rate pop singer’? However, there are artists in the first rank who stand our from their peers in that ranking; the super-special, if you will. Bowie may have been that by many people’s reckoning although I would not have placed him there or maybe even in the first class.

        So even if George Michael is firmly in a class of ‘second rate pop singer’ he is actually in third rank order, because of the ‘super superstars’ in the premier rated group.

        Grant was probably not so far out after all.

        Just my opinion. 🙂

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        • taffman says:

          I am of the opinion and its only an opinion, but I think ‘Max’ is not really a newcomer to this site.
          I also picture him as one of those ‘snowflakes’ that people have referred to recently.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Well, he has had some output, or rather input, here today, taffman.

            And stimulated the little grey cells for some debate. Quite welcome, as far as I am concerned. I had a great Christmas Day with very little mental exertion, even when getting thrashed at Scrabble! Not much exertion of any sort yesterday. Back to normal today, it is then.

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  7. nogginator says:

    BBC News – Carl Paladino Trump insider faces backlash.
    Well … from the BBC most certainly, Clinton News Network, oh CH4 no doubt,
    MSM lakey s etc they still don t get it, the game has changed.
    The BBC should face more than a backlash, for continually reporting “illegal” settlements in Israel that are not, for not being objective on a vote at the UN that a US Pres orchestrated, expressly against the interests of the incoming and US/Israel
    relations, yes they should … but of course they won t.

    “A co-chair of President-elect Donald Trump’s New York campaign, is facing a backlash over crude remarks about Barack and Michelle Obama. Asked by a newspaper what he would most like to happen in 2017, Mr Paladino said he hoped President Obama would die from mad cow disease and the first lady would “return to being a male”

    Yep! old Carl, was lauded in the 60s … how times change
    (that s the way to do it …… baby!).

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Nogginator

      ‘and the first lady would “return to being a male”’

      Perhaps he will.

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      • RJ says:

        The moral of that photo is don’t wear a strap-on with a tight dress. You can see the outline of the support straps, especially over her right hip. Now we know why Barack has that funny expression on his face.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Except that isn’t what he said and you’ve missed the last word out for some reason.

      and the first lady would “return to being a male [APE]”

      by anyone’s standards that’s quite an insult, and I’m not sure it’s deserved however misguided her politics might be.

      In addition she is not the politician, her husband is, and although he stood for election, she did not.

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      • Grant says:

        Thoughtful,

        But Obama used her for political purposes and she did not demur. In the same way that Clinton used Hillary. At least Hillary did stand for election !

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        • G.W.F. says:

          A mistake about the word ‘Ape’ and we can see it is insulting.
          But Michelle campaigned for Hillary, attacked Trump, attempted to carve herself a reputation as a champion of oppressed blacks and women. Moreover, there are many hints that her campaigning was part of a bid to run in 2000. She is a politician in her own right

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          • ToobiWan says:

            She certainly has the “trappings”, G.W.F. Apologies if this has been posted before.
            http://www.duffandnonsense.typepad.com/

            Copyright Canada Free Press
            Total Personal Staff members for US First ladies
            Mamie Eisenhower: One – paid for personally, out of President’s salary.
            Total number of Personal Staff Members paid by Tax Payers
            Jackie Kennedy: One
            Lady Bird Johnson: One
            Pat Nixon: One
            Betty Ford: One
            Rosaline Carter: One
            Barbara Bush: One
            Hilary Clinton: Seven
            Laura Bush: One
            Michele Obama: Twenty-two
            Yep….your eyes don’t deceive you. You want to read WASTE? ….Scroll on down.
            Michele Obama’s personal staff: Take a closer look
            One.. $192,200 – Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
            Two.. $160,000 – Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects)
            Three.. $133,000 – Rogers, Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary)
            Four.. $122,000 – Johnston, Camille Y. (Director of Communications)
            Five.. $120,000 – Winter, Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
            Six.. $110,000 – Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
            Seven.. $104,000 – Lilyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary)
            Eight.. $ 95,000 – Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance)
            Nine.. $ 90,000 – Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects)
            Ten.. $ 85,000 – Burnough, Erinn (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
            Eleven.. $ 84,000 – Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
            Twelve.. $ 82,000 – Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator)
            Thirteen.. $ 80,000 – Fitz, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director)
            Fourteen.. $ 77,500 – Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide)
            Fifteen.. $ 72,500 – Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary)
            Sixteen.. $ 70,000 – Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide)
            Seventeen.. $ 65,000 – Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence)
            Eighteen.. $ 63,000 – Tubman, Samantha A. (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
            Nineteen.. $ 60,000 – Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff)
            Twenty.. $ 56,000 – Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
            Twenty-One.. $ 55,000 – Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
            Twenty-Two.. $ 55,000 – Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence)
            That’s a Total…$2,075,200 [my emphasis] in annual salaries – all for someone we did not vote for and apparently have no control over.
            5 staff are Muslim and 13 African-American.
            There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady’s social life.
            This does not include:
            “Makeup artist” Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49,
            “First Hairstylist” Johnny Wright, 31,
            Both of whom travelled aboard Air Force One on ALL Trips, Europe included.
            As of 11/15/2015 the Obama Family has spent over $1,300,000,000 (one billion, three hundred million dollars) [my emphasis] on personal family trips. They were personal, not political or Government related.
            How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at WalMart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of “Ms. Michelle” are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by YOU.
            Copyright Canada Free Press

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            • Scroblene says:

              Blimey, Toobs. that’s nearly as much as some minor flunkey in Brussels!

              What are our ‘representatives’ doing wrong?

              Does the ex-president’s pension still stand at a million bucks? If so, will she still have a feng shui advisor for the golf clubs?

              I know where I’d stick them.

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      • nogginator says:

        T – READ the BBC report link, 6 lines down

        … about Zimbabwe and living with Maxie, sorry, not my scene
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38423942

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        • G.W.F. says:

          Nogginator

          I read the BBC report. Here is another comment on it.
          From the BBC report.
          ‘Many Twitter users also condemned Mr Paladino, with one saying there was “something deeply, horribly wrong” with him.’

          What kind of journalism is this – which relies on sources like ‘Many Twitter users’?

          It is a frequent source for the BBC.
          Get off your arses and meet people.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Does that mean if more Twitter users supported him, his comments would be fine, or does the BBC simply assume that Twitter is a left wing echo chamber?

            Either way, he had better watch out for himself. When Joan Rivers joked that Michelle Obama was a trannie, she was dead within a couple of weeks…

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          • Cranmer says:

            Substitute ‘twitter users’ for ‘people in the pub’ and you’ll see how ridiculous it sounds. Some news articles nowadays consist solely of a headline, a brief intro and the rest is just people spouting off on Twitter.
            You might as well write a book based on what people write on toilet walls!
            (Mind you, some bloke did very well out of that idea in the 70s!)

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        • Thoughtful says:

          The BBC probably couldn’t bring itself to repeat an insult to the Obamessiahs wife, or it couldn’t manage to report accurately! He did however say ‘male ape’ regardless of the BBC.

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  8. G.W.F. says:

    Perhaps it is two left. Treezer is still around

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    • Grant says:

      GWF,

      I have a hunch that Merkel and May will go in 2017. The old order is crumbling and these people represent the past and not the future.

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  9. Thoughtful says:

    Rick Parfitt Status Quo 68 – dead, prodigious drug user
    George Michael Wham 53 – dead, Prodigious drug user
    Carrie Fisher Star Wars 60 – intensive care following a heart attack prodigious drug user

    And what do the great & the good have to say about this? Yep that’s right, nothing what so ever! While they have a golden opportunity to condemn the use of drugs and those who sell them they have manifestly failed to do so.
    Presumably because so many hard drugs are being peddled by the favourite brown eyed boys that they just don’t want to rock the boat.

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    • Deborah says:

      I nearly included mention of the drugs in my response to a post higher up. Cocaine use apparently puts huge stress on the heart. A cardiologist friend of mine in London explained that it was the direct cause of death for many of the deaths of high powered professionals in their late 30s to early 50s. We never hear about it especially when the case is being made for the legalisation of drugs.

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      • Scroblene says:

        “We never hear about it especially when the case is being made for the legalisation of drugs.”

        You can’t be a lawyer all your life, but it helps.

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    • maxincony says:

      “And what do the great & the good have to say about this? Yep that’s right, nothing what so ever!”

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15925376

      “But there were times when his battle with drugs… In February 2006 he was arrested and charged with possession of class C drugs… In August 2010 he was sentenced to eight weeks’ imprisonment after pleading guilty to driving while under the influence of drugs… blaming Goss’s addiction to alcohol and his own battles with drugs.”

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    • Andrew Caplan says:

      Those who are old enough might remember a TV “debate” in the 1960s. Four people on a panel promoting the legalisation of drugs. A few years later, every single one of them was dead.

      Unfortunately, I don’t recall the details but I’m pretty sure one of them was Brian Epstein. The idiot died in 1967, in his early 30s, of a drug overdose.

      Stupid is as stupid does.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    On R4Today Laura K revealed that way before the Sun story a good source had revealed to her that the Queen had spoken in favour of Brexit saying it would be easy.
    Laura said with only one source it was not possible to run the story.

    Yes, The BBC NEVER run a dramatic narrative, if they only have ONE source .. LOL
    … .#bbcSocialistBedWetters

    http://order-order.com/2016/12/26/source-told-laura-k-queen-did-back-brexit-at-private-lunch/

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  11. Sluff says:

    Manna from heaven for the bBBC that George Michael should die on the same day that former Governor of the Bank of England Mervyn King should come out with a strong pro Brexit message.

    King is not exactly a guy whose economic opinion can be lightly dismissed, I would have thought.
    But then again, I’m not a bBBC news editor.

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    • Scroblene says:

      You could well be, Sluff!

      Just sign this seventy-five page document (don’t bother to read it), and come and work for us in Pratlund Plaice as a researcher!

      The George Michael story put Dotun Adebayo in a corner, and to be fair to him, he got himself into the right frame, but the rest of the show was yuccccch.

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    A point of view, by self destructive Jew Howard Jacobson

    “Perhaps we should try, before the year’s out”, writes Howard Jacobson, ” to agree on the International Word of 2016 – the word that most describes where we’ve been these last 12 months”.

    “Post-truth”, “Trump” and “Farage” are all in the running.

    But in the end, Jacobson’s chooses “people” as in “the people have spoken” for his Word of the Year.

    An appalling left wing pro oppressive diatribe which only the BBC could broadcast.

    The people wanted it, but it’s not in their interest, and we the elites know what’s best for them so we should simply ignore the peoples will and do what we want.
    Just because someone wins an election doesn’t make them a better leader than the one who has lost.

    And with that logic we can abandon democracy and freedom. The Brexit vote can be ignored because Europe and its people will suffer which outweighs the will of the British people!

    What is it with some of these Jews who believe they can play with fire and it won’t burn them?
    By the same logic he uses, he should shut his ridiculous mouth because other Jews will suffer as a result of his idiocy.

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    • Jeff says:

      Yes, I heard Jacobson’s miserable, post Christmas message. I’d been on a muddy and chilly ramble and was warming myself with piping hot soup and a dollop of Radio 4. I wish that I’d just had the soup.
      It was a miserable and petulant swipe at the usual political suspects; Trump and Farage, yawn! and also those of us who voted for them. Ye gods what a sanctimonious, opinionated pain in the arse. Jacobson is quite contemptuous of the electorate, whilst pretending to be a democrat. “They had referendums in the bible,” the left-wing intellectual informed us. “That’s what Pontius Pilate offered the people and they chose to save Barabbas and have Jesus crucified.”
      So, there you have it. Brexit is now on a par with having Jesus flayed and crucified.
      I do hope you’re proud of yourselves…

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    • RJ says:

      “Perhaps we should try, before the year’s out”, writes Howard Jacobson, ” to agree on the International Word of 2016 – the word that most describes where we’ve been these last 12 months”.

      For once I’m happy to quote Mel Gibson: “FREEDOM”.

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    • Dave S says:

      His being Jewish is not relevant so why mention it? Would you say the same thing if he were Welsh , Scottish or any other identity.
      It just sounds a certain way that, if you were Jewish, you would understand why.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        And by that logic being Jewish has no relevance to anti Semitism – which is exactly what the Fascist left is arguing with their anti Zionism.

        Being Jewish and pandering to the politics of these people is playing with fire, and it’s not the fist time naive Jews thinking they were being clever have done this, with disastrous consequences.

        If someone had some kind of a grudge against the Welsh & Scottish where they thought that ridding the world of them was a good idea, then perhaps I would be suggesting the same, but that is not the case.

        I hear this argument so many times from the Fascist Left – being Muslim is not relevant – usually immediately after a terror attack. Sorry Dave S but it is highly relevant and if you cannot see it then you really do need to look more closely.

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        • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

          Some people believe all religions are the same. That is not true.
          Some people believe Islam is Peace. That is not true.
          Some people believe that Obama is the anti-Christ.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        His being Jewish is not relevant so why mention it?

        I disagree, Dave. He is at one with the BBC mindset and therefore its pro-‘Palestine’/Islamic propaganda machine.

        I heard on the BBC news a few days ago a reference to Israel ‘occupying’ the ‘Palestinian’ territories since the 1967 ‘Arab/Israeli war’. In the absence of any context to that war – ever – by the BBC, let alone who ‘occupied’ those territories prior to 1967 or the 1947 attempt by the Arab nations to wipe the new state of Israel off the face of the map (having rejected a very generous two-state solution), listeners are, as usual, being fed the carefully-constructed BBC version of events.

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    • Cranmer says:

      I got one of those round-robin Christmas letters the other day, from an old family friend who is also a BBC presenter. (I won’t mention his name, he’s not top-billing but most R4 listeners will have heard of him). He mentioned how 2016 had been a defeat for democracy…seriously…I wasn’t surprised he was annoyed about Brexit and Trump. I was moderately surprised he mentioned it in a Christmas letter. I was staggered that he thought it was in any way ‘undemocratic’.

      To be honest it made me lose a fair bit of respect for him, and I’ve found that happening quite a lot lately.

      By all means people can oppose Brexit and Trump, but for God’s sake try to do it logically and rationally.

      I was rather pleasantly surprised on the other hand by ‘Sir’ Alan Bennett’s mention of Brexit in a programme on his diaries. He compared it to the Munich settlement in 1938, saying that one half of the country was disgusted and the other thought it was the solution to all their problems. How would it turn out? That remains to be seen’. For an arch lefty and committed champagne socialist, I thought that was quite a fair response.

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  13. worrywort says:

    I got the wishbone and made my wish.

    Please please will the Yorkshire Moors give the b’BBC staff “one up the ramadan” in the run up to New Year.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Narrative construction on Wikipedia : Germany’s #1 Climate Skeptic blog has a long article about Lefties dirty tricks :
    http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/13/massive-cover-up-exposed-285-papers-from-1960s-80s-reveal-robust-global-cooling-scientific-consensus/#sthash.iZfBhfqF.dpbs

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Last night there was a return to reasonable old style comedy with a repeat of January’s Tracy Ullman Show.
    Accurate impressions
    of Judi Dench, Merkel, Claire Balding and Camilla etc.
    but I see such values are frowned upon by Guardianista thoughtpolice : You can’t do German accents, or making fun of famous lesbians etc.
    http://www.chortle.co.uk/review/2016/01/11/23926/tracey_ullmans_show%2C_bbc_one

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  16. JosF says:

    Just remember when your children ask if Santa is real and you say to your children that Santa is not real and doesnt fly all around the world in a sleigh on christmas eve delivering presents the there are grown adults who really believe that the BBC, Al-Guardian and the rest of the MSM are accurate and believable news sources….Oy Santa you forgot to bring my Harley Davidson Fatboy again

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    • Number 7 says:

      Nuff said.

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    • Invicta 1066 says:

      Perhaps staff at the BBC etc. should be made to sign a contract saying they will present both sides of a storey and not just their own twisted view of the world. but then we all know ” There anin,t no Sanity Clause”

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      • StewGreen says:

        Have you noticed that the BBC is now reporting both sides of the argument ?
        It’s all down to recent changes the DG made to BBC Editorial Guidelines … adding an extra sentence.

        No ?
        … So are you saying you don’t believe in the Sanity Clause ?

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  17. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘Veteran reporter’ Alan Little – whose departure from the BBC was celebarted with an apparently premature in-house valedictory report – returns to our national broadcaster to deliver yet another raking-over of the BBC’s twin 2016 obsessions – Brexit and Trump.

    Our Alan’s early claim to fame is a Where’s-The-BBC-Wally game at the fall of Communism when he tells us he is somewhere to be seen in the news footage of Czech Revolutionary crowds.

    One notices how at the moment of their Independence from the Soviet Empire he twists the concept of sovereignty to claim that what Czechs really wished was to be ‘at the heart of Europe’ Ever heard that slogan before? Blair. Nicola Sturgeon attempts the same double think. Alan Little – like everyone at the BBC – wants us to equate subserviance to the EU with freedom. Piffle.

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  18. Deborah says:

    I know this is only minor but yet more evidence that Auntie has to manipulate everything. Last night was the Xmas edition of Strictly. In the long series a radio 1 DJ was booted off because Anastasia, who should have been in the dance off, was injured, and couldn’t dance. However Anastasia was competing to show what women can do post cancer so she couldn’t be eliminated, could she? So the DJ had to go. He was invited therefore to appear in the Xmas show and indeed won. I presume this was to compensate for his early bath in the full series. I presume this is as near as the BBC could get to admitting they had it wrong before.

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  19. BRISSLES says:

    Deborah, If the DJ had gone all the way in the main series, the BBC would have had a real dilemma on their hands – which one of their ‘boys’ do they save for the final ? After this year’s diversity success – ie 2 black winners, what’s betting the number of non-whites will be increased for the next series !

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  20. G.W.F. says:

    Not reached the BBC but reports are circulating of stabbings of Christians in Switzerland on their way to a Christmas mass. One dead, three injured.
    A Christmas blessing for multicultural Europe

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/switzerland-muslim-attacks-christians-on-way-to-christmas-mass-one-dead-three-injured

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  21. nogginator says:

    Swiss attack – “On social networks, testimonies speak of a knife attack against three faithful on their way to the Hermitage of Longeborgne – one of which was seriously wounded” –

    https://t.co/ZbkuQhppRe

    http://www.dreuz.info/2016/12/25/suisse-attentat-anti-chretiens-a-longeborgne-3-blesses-dont-1-grave/

    BBC? … but Al Beeb Euro news STILL has this,
    “Only three passengers on BA flight enjoy champagne and selfies”

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  22. taffman says:

    nogginator
    Al Beeb’s duty researchers will pick it up from here shortly. I am of the opinion that they get a lot of their ‘heads up’ from this site.

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    • nogginator says:

      Taff you re probably right 😀
      If your tired of all the Al BBC “fake news” might as well go for a bit a radio drama … lets see
      Oh, “When a group of Jewish commuters were attacked on the New York subway, a slightly built accountancy student decided … it was time to act”
      … Goodness, Hmmm Edgy BBC
      R4extra presents …… Hassan s Story DOOOHHHH!

      Must be erm … “Post Truth”

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    • Scroblene says:

      Taffman, in the property business, they’re known as the ‘PDF boys’. Thick estate agents sit at their desks, and watch what comes in on their screens from other agents, then just forward it to all their company’s clients. Then forget about it.

      Proper agents don’t tell a soul, they just pop out into the street and make a couple of calls, and the job’s done.

      (Please tell me if this is offensive, as I love most of the agents in Wales, and I will apologise unreservedly)!

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      • taffman says:

        Nothing on Al Beeb so far. So, either it did not happen or there is an element of censorship in operation in the British media?
        Mind you there has been a lot of deaths to ‘bury bad news’ under in the last two days .
        Perhaps Maxi can enlighten us ?

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  23. G.W.F. says:

    Although this is not directly linked to BBC bias it concerns the bias shown in support of the BBC’s best US President ever.

    Perhaps as a friend pointed out to me, it was written 8 years too late.

    By Matt Patterson
    (Newsweek Columnist — Opinion Writer)
    Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job?
    Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer;” a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, less often did he vote “present”); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions.
    He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor;” a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president? There is no evidence that he ever attended or worked for any university or that he ever sat for the Illinois bar. We have no documentation for any of his claims. He may well be the greatest hoax in history. Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day.
    But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberal Dom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were ‘a bit’ extreme, he was given a pass. Let that Sink in: Obama was given a pass – held to a lower standard because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) “non-threatening,” all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest? Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon – affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves. Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back.
    Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don’t care if these minority students fail; liberals aren’t around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self-esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin – that’s affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn’t racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary.
    What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama’s oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people – conservatives included – ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that’s when he has his Teleprompters in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth – it’s all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years. (An example is his 2012 campaign speeches which are almost word for word his 2008 speeches)
    And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. Remember, he wanted the job, campaigned for the task. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. (The other day he actually came out and said no one could have done anything to get our economy and country back on track). But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?
    In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such an impostor in the Oval Office.

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    • sharethedebate says:

      President Obama was sponsored by George Soros that is why he became president pure and simple. Hillary too sponsored by Soros.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Thanks for that, GWF. At last a well-argued, non-PC assessment of Obama.

      ‘In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense.’

      And he’s not finished yet:

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obama-drilling-idUSKBN1492KU

      U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday banned new oil and gas drilling in federal waters in the Atlantic and Arctic Oceans, in a push to leave his stamp on the environment before Republican Donald Trump takes office next month.

      Luckily for the US, they have other energy reserves aplenty so won’t be left sitting in the dark like the UK will be in the not-too-distant future.

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  24. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    The print arm of the bBBC, in response to Freedom of Information requests, reports that South Yorkshire police have spent nearly £5m on policing far-right protests since the beginning of 2012. They didn’t bother asking how much they spent on policing Muslim gangs raping white girls.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/25/far-right-protests-draining-police-resources-figures-reveal

       53 likes

    • Andrew Caplan says:

      Things must be improving then because I remember when S Yorkshire only had about 5 people who didn’t vote Labour.

      It went down to 2 when we moved out.

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  25. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    More ‘local’ news (Derbyshire) from the bBBC.

    Munir Hassan Mohammed, 35, and Rowaida El-Hassan, 32, appeared at Westminster Magistrates’ Court.

    Mr Mohammed, an Eritrean national who is seeking asylum in the UK, and Ms El-Hassan are jointly charged with preparing an act of terrorism between 7 July and 12 December 2016. They face charges relating to the alleged acquisition and possession of chemicals capable of use in explosives.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-38426961

       40 likes

    • nogginator says:

      The perfect man, example to be imitated. the supreme example of conduct.
      Mr Mohamhead – Obviously is following in the way of his namesake.

      Statement of Muhammad: “I have been made victorious with terror.”
      Hadith, collected by Bukhari (4.52.220)

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  26. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/14987560.UPDATE_WITH_VIDEO__Gun_fired_inside_police_car_in_Bradford_city_centre/

    A GUN was fired inside a police car during a Christmas Day disturbance in Bradford city centre, it has emerged.

    West Yorkshire Police said the firearm – which a member of the public claimed was a shotgun – was “discharged into a marked police vehicle” on Sackville Street while officers were speaking to the victim of an assault.

    A spokesman for the force said the gun was fired at 4.43am yesterday, damaging the vehicle’s windscreen.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38436807

    Relegated to the regional section many people would consider a couple of masked individuals wearing masks shooting up a Police car with a Policeman inside would be a major news story, except when you consider that it was a black Mercedes and the probability was that they were Muslim.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Sooner or later a British policeman will be murdered by a terrorist and whilst the BBC will distort the facts our collaborating cops will have to face reality. They can grovel, selectively enforce the law, turn a blind eye to the rapes of our children, condemn anti Jihadist demonstrations but they are targets just like our soldiers and civilians.

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  27. nogginator says:

    Berlin – Homeless man set alight by seven attackers … AT CHRISTMAS!
    Germany? BERLIN?? BBC???
    “Seven attackers set a homeless man on fire at a Berlin subway station, police have said. The authorities are now investigating the case as an attempted murder and have released CCTV images of the suspects.”
    BBC? … Anything??
    … NO??? Even after that lady was kicked down the stairs there, in the subway by a gang?

    but I notice on your Euronews page that “IKEA sleepovers” must end

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    • Jeff says:

      Don’t worry nogginator the dear old Beeb will be all over it if some lout swears at a woman wearing a hijab.
      Top news story for a week at least.
      Rest assured…

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  28. Synchro gnome says:

    The BBC love minorities and women. Men can get lost. And what was the BBC1 main family entertainment on Christmas Day evening? “Call The Midwife” which is all about women and has no interest for men whatsoever. But that is not enough for the BBC – they needed to excel themselves. What better way to do this than to ship the whole thing off to Africa so that its not just women but African women – an even higher ranking minority – to entertain us all on Christmas Day. Splendid effort. Who needs Morecambe and Wise when we have such enriching propaganda as this. And I didn’t even bother watching Dr Who because that has become more of the same. I lost the plot with that when they replaced the Brigadier with a woman so I was fortunately absent when they replaced the Master with a women. All the males are stupid and all the females are “feisty”. Stuff the BBC. I have watched 9 episodes of “The Professionals” this Christmas and by heck they make BBC’s current output look like the crock of shite that it is.

       61 likes

    • G.Shuttleworth says:

      Speaking of Dr Who I see the new sidekick has been unveiled, a black woman by the name of Bill.

         24 likes

    • R P McMurphy says:

      They don’t make anything for white males anymore, and that goes for all the channels. All males are idiots and all females intelligent family heads that do everything better than males, and don’t even talk about how the advertising industry goes about re-writing real life.
      Sticking to my box sets of “The Sopranos” & ” Broadwalk Empire”.

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  29. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Headlines You Are Unlikely To See In 2017:

    “” The British Empire, Remembered Fondly Around The World””

    “” The British Were First In The World To Outlaw Slavery””

    “” If Britain Is Regarded By Many As Racist, Why So Many Immigrants?””

    “” Nigel Farage Is Talented, Articulate and Deserves Praise For Brexit””

    “”Racism Is Committed By All Races””

    There are more.

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    • Invicta 1066 says:

      Item two; I think the Portuguese were the first, but then again they did start before us and took more African slaves to Brazil than British slavers took to the USA.
      Not as many as the 18m taken by Muslim slavers of course; why does that never get a mention? The Portuguese, unlike the British did not actively try to stop the slave trade.

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  30. Thoughtful says:

    Why are we giving so much overseas aid to Africa when they clearly have a space program ?

    http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/AIDS_(Space_Program)

    African International Destination: Space, more commonly known as AIDS, is a multi-national African agency whose goal is to eventually reach Outer Space. With member nations such as Congo, The Democratic Republic of the Congo, The People’s Green Libertarian Congo, and Egypt, it is Africa’s response to NASA and the European Space Agency.[1]

    Little reported this link certainly deserves a read.

       25 likes

    • maxincony says:

      “AIDS!”, ha ha, them there darkies sure are funny.

      Keep on rearranging those flowers, thoughtful 😉

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      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        It’s a spoof story with a distinctly unfunny undertone.

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        • Grant says:

          Robert Mugabe once said that Zimbabwe was going to send a spaceship to the sun. He was asked “won’t it burn up ? “. To which he replied ” No , we shall send it at night “.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        “AIDS!”, ha ha, them there darkies sure are funny.

        Tut, your choice of language.

        Any road up, should people be immune to satire just because of the colour of their skin? Can you find any reference to skin colour in that piece?

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  31. Roland Deschain says:

    So far on “Outnumbered” I count two anti-Trump jokes and one anti-Brexit. None pro so far, but I’m sure there will be to maintain impartiality.

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    • KatieH says:

      Nazis as well don’t forget the nazis. Pretty blatant shite. No comedy just had to get the trump and brexit crap in. Written by labour loving Andy Hamilton. Barrel scraping crap

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    • Dazed and Confused says:

      Just another typical day at the BBC then, who are starting to make the Guardian look increasingly right wing.

      How much longer can this absolute shower go on, before a TORY government take action against them?

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      • StewGreen says:

        BBC all Lefty, all the time.
        Tune in for 2 mins and you get Lefty issues shoved in your face
        #1 We’re into the 25th hour of banging on about George Michael the GayFather

        #2 R2 That Alan Bennett Diary. Hit the button
        he was on about the disaster of “them lot getting in..no all parties are not the same ! ….they would soon be taking an axe to the BBC !”
        ..button off

        #3 R3 Novelist Julian Barnes on about voting for the Women’s Equality Party… he claimed he changed parties cos they change policies and don’t stick to principles.. Obvious he didn’t even consider UKIP

        #4 Now 5 Live is banging on, on Boxing Day about poor shop workers who have to work today..
        Pointless cos those workers will be too knackered to listen and everyone else wants to be enjoying their Boxing day.

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    • KatieH says:

      Followed on the news with more anti brexit shite regarding the sales with an anti trump dig thrown in for good measure by cuddly Andy verity. Even at Christmas the propoganda is relentless.

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      • EnglandExpects says:

        Verity, under the guise of an economics reporter, has been trashing Brexit for the last year at least. There’s no optimistic set of figures on retail sales, unemployment, GDP etc that he can’t find a negative slant on. His only serious competitor is Aussie Dom on Radio 4.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Roland – ‘Project Fear’ with its farcical predictions – none of which materialised yet continue to be aired relentlessly by the BBC – provides a rich seam of hilarious joke material for even the most hapless of comedians.

      Strange how it has yet to be discovered let alone mined by the impartial funsters who inhabit Radio 4 and BBC TV.

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  32. Deborah says:

    Roland, there has been three anti-Trump on Outnumbered by the end. I was counting them too.

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  33. Al Shubtill says:

    Not bias related; earlier I watched “Witness for the Prosecution” on al beebus – mistake.
    I can only describe it as an “ugly” production: crude (sex and anachronistic swearing); dumbed-down; cheap production values and just really p**s poor.

    Compared to “Maigret” on ITV last night it was total garbage. Agatha Christie must be spinning as I type.

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    • G says:

      Al Shubtill
      “I can only describe it as an “ugly” production: crude (sex and anachronistic swearing); dumbed-down; cheap production values and just really p**s poor.”

      The Cult of Submission’s devotees will sort this degeneration out when the come to power.

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    • RJ says:

      No BBC production team would have been allowed to make the excellent “Maigret”. The solution to the crimes was that a gang of East European migrants had been working as casual labourers on farms during the summer then going back in the autumn to steal from the farmers and kill all the witnesses. I dread to imagine the reaction among BBC commissioning editors if that plot line had been pitched to them – they’s still be on sick leave with “stress”.

      As far as “Witness for the Prosecution” was concerned you missed out the casual police violence in the background, the use of fog to save on using real exterior locations and the BBC demonstrating its commitment to the environment by using low energy light bulbs in all the interior scenes. I might watch a DVD of the Charles Laughton/Marlene Dietrich film this afternoon, just to remind myself what could have been done with the plot.

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  34. Heisenberg says:

    Not bias related either but sheer incompetence. They have been showing Match of the Day on BBC1 HD for the last 50 minutes without any sound!

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  35. BRISSLES says:

    OK NEWS CHANNELS, I’M DONE WITH 24 HOUR OF NON-STOP REPORTING OF THE DEMISE OF GEORGE MICHAEL !!! PLEASE STOP. Newspaper saturation coverage is also on overkill. Yes, he was a pop artist, blah blah blah, we all die, end of story. Greater people than him have died without half the coverage, so I’m guessing its that age group in the news media who have grown up with those who have died this year and who are responsible for making the deaths continual lead stories. I wonder when its Tommy Steele’s time to depart this world whether he will be accorded the same accolade. Of course not, cos most of those in charge will be saying, who ???

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  36. Deborahanother says:

    George Michael is rapidly being elevated to Saint hood.
    I’m sorry he died and he wrote some good songs ,but his lifestyle ultimately was destructive and not one to be brushed under the carpet .

    Sky drooling over which is the guests favourite song .Well mine is the one he wrote after getting caught cruising the LA toilets.Its called Outside and the incident enabled him to stop the pretence and finally come out as gay.

    Im not joking either .The song is more real and relevant than any if his gushing love songs .

       29 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      The George Michael gushing continues apace on BBC tv news; a seasonal godsend headlining above a dull and very early new year crop of public sector shroud-waving funding bid reports. Do you know some carers are as young as 5!

      Gosh, recalling the Jungle Camp fiasco I thought children were getting older. Can we really trust any age estimation now?

      A concerned Louise Minchin – with her sincerity turned up to eleven – poners the record business apparent massacre and then she asks a little too much of a music critic guest.

      Ah, music journos: the rockstars of the journo gig. All leather jackets, late nights, designer stubble and shaven heads – and that’s just the women.

      So says our Louise, how come all these rock and pop deaths, she asks from her comparatively chintzy BBC red sofa perch? The answer: (to paraphrase) these baby-boomers… bad lifestyle choices behind the pop facade.

      A little off-message for the BBC and their fawning tributes so far – but she did ask.

      Now I’ve not seen the statistics on rock and pop deaths but suddenly I have a notion that something should be done. I’m watching the BBC afterall. The answer of course is a lack of funding. Yes, why didn’t I make this connection before? Tory cuts….

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      • johnnythefish says:

        BBC HQ is built deep in The Forest of Money Trees somewhere in the wilder reaches of Corbynshire near to the village of Moonbattington where it would never occur to them with their guaranteed £4bn p.a. income, inflated salaries, lavish pension schemes (with unlimited top-ups), free private health care, company-funded Berghaus jackets etc etc that the nation as a whole might, just might, have been living the life of a rock star on a window cleaner’s wages for far too long.

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      • Scroblene says:

        How do ordinary families explain the sort of bbc rubbish to their children?

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    • seismicboy says:

      Yes Sky are drooling over him. Full-on luvvie worship. We’ll have to suffer weeks of this.
      The late Rick Parfitt from Status Quo who sold more records than George Michael had his 5 minutes in the media and has vanished. Sorry Rick, you’re not gay or sordid enough.

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  37. G says:

    “Welcome to the new, enlightened, multicultural Europe. Much, much more of this is to come.”
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/switzerland-muslim-attacks-christians-on-way-to-christmas-mass-one-dead-three-injured

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  38. taffman says:

    I wonder if this has anything to do with Tower Hamlets ? You bet .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37055521
    “Sir Eric’s report said he had seen evidence of “pressure being put on vulnerable members of some ethnic minority communities, particularly women and young people, to vote according to the will of the elders, especially in communities of Pakistani and Bangladeshi background.”
    New London Mayor anyone ?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      The women were probably not pressured to vote as the men collected their postal ballots and gave them to the community leaders to fill in.

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  39. StewGreen says:

    I’ll retract something I said about Laura K.
    I said she was wrong to supress news that at a private dinner the Queen had spoke firmly in favour of Brexit, cos the BBC reprts plenty of other news without hiding behind the excuse that there’s no second source.
    .. No her error was yesterday in blurting out the story in the middles of R4Today’s Mastermind game.
    The royal expert points out that the protocol is that the Queen’s private opinions are not reported, cos she has to be neutral.
    So R4Todays other big error was to give a platform to The Prince of Wales to express his mad hippy views.

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  40. taffman says:

    Listening to Al Beeb Wales radio this morning, despite the overnight frost, there is a reluctance to use the word ‘cold’. Its cool or ‘may be getting cooler’.
    Is there an aberration of the use of the word ‘Cold’ because of PC Global Warming indoctrination ?

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Taffman – the Telegraph this morning had a photo of early cherry blossom somewhere in the UK with a caption informing us the mild weather will continue today once the overnight frost has cleared.

      The DT is now as bad as the BBC on global warming.

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  41. Grant says:

    Brilliant BBC website heading “Why do planes crash ? “. !

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  42. G.W.F. says:

    I have not heard anything of George Michael for a while. Does anyone know how he is? Is he ill, retired, or dead?

       18 likes

    • Grant says:

      GWF,

      Excuse my ignorance , but who is he ?

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      • Andrew Caplan says:

        “Excuse my ignorance , but who is he ?”

        Don’t know, somebody forgot to enter his surname.

        Meanwhile, very little mention of the fact that the Black Sea crash more or less wiped out the Alexandrov Ensemble, formerly the Red Army Ensemble.

        For those who never heard them, the Red Army Ensemble was far more entertaining and far far more talented than their title implies. A great loss, IMO, and more so than another dead druggie.

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      • Nicholas Heneghan says:

        I thought the pop group Wham! was made up of the three Ridgely brothers, George, Michael & Andrew…

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    • Nibor says:

      Perhaps the telly tax inspectors found him dead after an authorised visit to an unlicensed premises ?

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  43. johnnythefish says:

    O/T but yet another example of how our mainstream media are increasingly infected with a left liberal PC mindset.

    Spot the elephant in the room in this Sky News article:

    http://news.sky.com/story/voters-must-show-id-in-pilot-scheme-to-stop-electoral-fraud-10709164

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    • Tabs says:

      The BBC is running the same story
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38440934

      The BBC do mention showing ID at polling stations will be trailed in Bradford and Birmingham but give no reason why these 2 “random” locations have been chosen.

      Hmmmm, why not trial it first in west Wales or Devon?!?

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      • Lobster says:

        It seems to me to be a total waste of time while postal votes are so easy to obtain.

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        • Sluff says:

          Lobster good point.
          Weird thing is, in my direct experience once you get a postal vote it can be very hard to not get one!
          They should be available only when needed and for one election only (with a special scheme for e.g. registered disabled).
          But where I live , you get them in virtual perpetuity, possibly irrespective of whether you are still alive.

          Anyone hear Ken Livingstone on Toady this morning, given an easy ride as to why ID should NOT be necessary. I just cannot imagine why he would advocate that! LOL.

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          • Grant says:

            Sluff,

            It would be interesting to know how many dead people vote in elections. My mum has a government widow’s pension and has to sign a witnessed declaration each year to prove she is still alive.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Yes, Sluff, for me it was a Gromit moment, a paw in each ear, vigourously rotated to see if each ear is working properly. Did I really hear Ken Livingstone admit that Labour has put up a few dodgy Councillors for election in the past and that Labour will be disadvantaged by this because they are the Party that commit fraud in major public office elections?

            That was pretty amazing.

            Had I been the TODAY presenter, as follow-up I would have asked him if he cheated to win the position as London Mayor. Then I would have asked him if he was aware that some in his campaign team had cheated on his behalf. I would have followed that with asking if it came to light that electoral fraud had been committed on his behalf, albeit without his knowledge, would he immediately withdraw from public life and hand back the salary that he had been paid during his terms in office.

            That ought to have set some journalists digging for evidence although I doubt that any of them would be working for the BBC.

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  44. John Bull says:

    The main item on radio 4 this morning at 7.00 am was Voting Fraud in certain areas and proof of identity with have to be produced when voting in these certain areas such as Birmingham and other places where there is a high population of Pakistanis. I could not believe my ears at first, surly this is racist or at least would be called racists by the BBC if any other body would have said this.
    Apparently this stems from a report about voting fraud, which we have all know about within certain communities for several years. However what’s strange or maybe not so was that normally we have the news headlines and then afterwards the news items are discussed in more detail, usually in the order that they have been read. Well this morning the main item as I stated was voting fraud but after the headlines they started talking about shop sales and bargains, you know really important stuff. The voting fraud issue was never discussed in detail.
    Typical BBC. Incidentally rather than single out these certain communities to comply because they are areas of high voting fraud, why not make it law that every body provides ID when voting, its no big deal.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      While they tell you that voting fraud is going on, they always neglect to tell you why.

      I can tell you from person experience, the reasons why it happens, and why it appears more in two particular parties.

      This has nothing to do with politics, just because the people convicted are Labour or fib dem, it’s just because those parties are so politically correct, they fail to adequately vet their members and candidates when they come from an ethnic background.

      The whole point of voter fraud is to get a compromised corrupt candidate elected to office who will act in the interests of those who are paying him (and it’s ALWAYS him!).

      He will give confidential information – such as who complained about building without planning permission (and why do you need to give your name & address anyway?) they will vote the way their puppet masters command – so when the local Mosque is refused planning, it can be dragged into committee and voted through anyway.

      If there is some thing being proposed which is against the interests of their controllers, they can give them a heads up allowing them to move business interests.

      And so it goes on, but worse than all of this is the utter implacable refusal of the parties who have a cuckoo in the nest to publicly accept it and do something about it. The people who are corrupt are generally known to other people in a council, but they do nothing to protest the people. Those who are in other parties can do nothing either as no mechanism short of criminal proof exists – this by its very nature is impossible.

      It is because as a nation we were basically an honest people, who have been enriched by the vibrancy of corruption in public bodies. We now need a reworking of the law to suspend those suspected of corruption, and to permanently remove access to certain council departments, and committees.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        You are exactly right about this, and I speak from personal experience.

        A couple of years back a man from a certain community bought a house near me. He then got planning permission to virtually double the size of the house, and almost do away with his garden. Certain communities have very large families, but do not like gardens.

        Planning permission was given by an official. It never went up to councillors, and by an “oversight” neighbours were not informed of the application, so there were no complaints. The planning official was a member of the same community as the applicant.

        Of course, this may possibly have all been above board, but local people might be forgiven for thinking that they have been stitched up for the benefit of a certain person from a certain community. I believe corruption such as this is common in some countries. To the amazement of leftists, the more people you allow to come into our country from those countries, the more our country turns into a sordid replica of the other countries.

        The 21st century will see the end of Britain at this rate. I do not trust a single politician to do a thing about it.

           58 likes

        • EnglandExpects says:

          R4 Today did indeed headline the voter ID experiment and even mentioned Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. However clever BBC news editors then cancelled it out by running an interview with Ken Livingstone who, naturally, told us it was all a waste of time because voter fraud is so small scale . Really? In Tower Hamlets and many wards in Birmingham, Bradford etc etc.? I think we all know where it’s not small scale and as the demographics of a high Muslim birth rate make these rotten boroughs increasingly common, the system will be more and more corrupt.
          In any case just what kind of person can’t prove their identity? And would such people vote anyway other than being used as a dupe by those practicing fraud?
          Final thought- local authorities will be “invited ” to trial voter ID. Do we seriously expect councils dominated by Muslims to rush to volunteer?

             34 likes

          • Thoughtful says:

            Voter fraud is so small scale? one man fraudulently casting ten million votes is one conviction! There were 700 last election, and they’re the ones who were caught!

            It is NOT small scale save for the BBC massaging their figures.

               32 likes

          • johnnythefish says:

            The scale of it is irrelevant – the fact it has started happening at all in an advanced, western liberal democracy is enough reason to take action.

            Snuff it out before it gains any more ground (which it inevitably will given the rapid growth in our immigrant population).

               23 likes

            • Al Shubtill says:

              Would it not matter if it was such small scale that it happened in just one constituency and that the seat of which, was the difference between an outright commons majority and not?

              The ramifications of this for our country are enormous and as such even time serving; politically correct; blathering scum like Fatty Pickles realize the implications of not addressing it.

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              • Cranmer says:

                I do believe this could be a sign of what we’ve been waiting for – those in charge of immigration have realised that if immigration is not addressed, their own jobs will be at stake. Even the daftest ‘open borders’ leftie will eventually realise that if electoral fraud is allowed to flourish, there is no point them courting the vote of immigrants because the immigrants will just be able to force through a candidate of their own choosing from their own community.

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      • Sluff says:

        I was told quite seriously by an opposition councillor where I live that when councillors from the ruling party visit a building site, they always leave their cars unlocked. This enables certain ‘gifts’ to be placed in the vehicles for when the said councillors later leave the site.

           27 likes

        • BRISSLES says:

          Which area I wonder would that be in ? Surprised the ‘gifts’ aren’t knicked before said councillors returned to their cars !

             14 likes

  45. Tabs says:

    Richard Hammond is criticised for gay ice cream joke on Amazon show, The Grand Tour
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38442533/richard-hammond-is-criticised-for-gay-ice-cream-joke-on-amazon-show-the-grand-tour

    For some strange reason the BBC find it necessary to run this article as 5 humourless people on Twitter have tweeted their disapproval of Hammond’s joke. Strange that when the trio were on BBCs Top Gear any racist, sexist or homophobic jokes were allowed with no critism from the BBC themselves.

       30 likes

    • Sluff says:

      I glanced at their burma special on Dave a few days ago, and by chance happened to be watching when a ‘slope’ on a bridge was mentioned. That went through the bBBC at the time, no problem.

         10 likes

  46. Cassandra says:

    Here is a story from eleven years ago that might shed some light…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1487145/Labour-activists-had-vote-rigging-factory-to-hijack-postal-votes.html

       23 likes

    • Number 88 says:

      That’s the issue. Proposals do nothing to address the real voter fraud problem; that that surrounds postal voting.

         20 likes

  47. nogginator says:

    … and a very merry BBC social justice warrior politically correct winterval greeting to you hideously white Mr (Grand Tour) Hammond.
    signed Disgusted of Broadcasting House
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articles/38442533

    “Talking in front of an audience, co-host Clarkson pointed at a photo of a Rolls Royce and says: “The only problem is that in one of those, you couldn’t enjoy a chocolate Magnum ice cream.”
    Richard Hammond replied: “It’s all right, I don’t eat ice cream. It’s something to do with being straight.”
    … (whoops! oh dear … anyone like a chocolate lolly?)
    “After the audience on the Amazon Prime show applauded, Jeremy Clarkson asks:
    “Why are you applauding him? What do you mean? You’re saying all children are homosexual? Richard Hammond replies: “What? What? Ice cream is a bit – you know… There’s nothing wrong with it, but a grown man eating an ice cream – it’s that way, … rather than that way.”
    Oh Well Hammond, never the sharpest knife in the draw eh, failed comedy is “not his strongest suit”.

    The BBC like a broken record
    “Twitter users aren’t happy about the comments”.
    The po faced Al BBC continues
    “There’s no word yet from Richard Hammond or the producers of The Grand Tour.
    The comments were made on the sixth episode of the Amazon Prime show, which was called Happy Finnish Christmas”.

    Yep!, Disgusted of Broadcasting House, ends up with a long list of tweets

    “We lost Prince, Bowie and Michael in a year where Richard Hammond can’t eat ice cream in fear of damaging his fragile & pathetic masculinity”
    On and on it goes

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  48. G.W.F. says:

    This picture is doing the rounds on the social media. The Polish lorry driver, murdered by the Jihadist is unlikely to be honoured by the state broadcaster here.
    RIP Lukasz Urban

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  49. oldcrone says:

    Christmas University Challenge … every single contestant (alumni from “chosen” universities) either worked for the BBC, was ex BBC and now worked for the Guardian or the Observer, had commissioned a documentary for the BBC, worked for Channel 4 (obviously an acceptable fellow Leftie channel), or was a recognizable Far Left devotee such as Val McDermid et al. (note the word “far” .. we can all play that game).

    The latest contender for most annoying contestant was Will Hutton .. who couldn’t even get the rules right (there are only two!), who whined if Paxman didn’t wave the rules for their side if they were only half right and who said “Oh of course!” each time Paxo gave them the correct answer, which ended with even Jeremy saying to him “Will you stop saying “oh of course” when you’ve just given the wrong answer”

    Anyone who wants further scales to drop from their eyes regarding the unchallenged lefty bias of the BBC being incorporated into every conceivable programme they produce, I urge you to watch every one of this series.

       55 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Will Hutton is a complete tosser who has been poncing off the public sector doing left wing non-jobs all his worthless life. A minicab driver provides far more useful service to society that that prat ever will. He even managed to run a charity called, ironically, the Work Foundation into the ground because he is completely inept. Yet they make him the Master of an Oxford college! Still, I expect he has the correct views about Brexit and Trump, and that is all that seems to matter these days.

      It was nice to see him reveal his inner David Lammy at any rate.

         47 likes

      • Grant says:

        Rob,

        Quite agree. Will Hutton is a total waste of space and consistently gets everything wrong. His opinions are worthless.

           22 likes

      • Andrew Caplan says:

        I think it was in his 1990s book “The State We’re In” that he heaped praise on the Norwegian company, Kvaerner, and its CEO, Erik Tønseth.

        I know from personal experience what a load bollocks that was. To cut a long story short, Kvaerner took over the ailing UK conglomerate Trafalgar House in the mid 1990s, and made a total balls of it. Kvaerner subsequently gave up its UK HQ and no longer exists in anything like its original form. I could reveal a lot about the grotesque, holier-than-thou Scandinavian hypocrisy of some of the Kvaerner executives and their attempt to become English landed gentry at North Aston Hall in Oxfordshire, but I might get myself into legal difficulties.

        Will Hutton and that lot deserve each other.

           25 likes

        • Invicta 1066 says:

          I actually have that book, really! I have never got round to reading it, would you like me to send it to you?

             4 likes

          • Andrew Caplan says:

            Thanks, but no. Put it on Ebay – maybe some lefty mug will buy it.

            I believe there’s a revised edition. Wonder which bits have been removed?

               3 likes

        • GCooper says:

          Hutton is the moron’s moron. Wrong in just about everything he has pontificated about, if he had ever had a proper job, he would have been sacked decades ago and been unemployed and unemployable ever since.

          Only the BBC is still listening.

             8 likes

          • Grant says:

            GC,

            LOL ! I would not even employ Hutton to clean a toilet. He would probably even get that wrong !

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  50. taffman says:

    Watch out watch out there is a maxi-troll about !

       12 likes